0:00 We're good. >> Yes, sir. >> Perfect. >> Andrew Tape, welcome back to the Jack Nail podcast. >> Yeah, I think last time was Romania. I was locked up there, didn't have any prospect of getting free, and now here I am in a movie studio in LA. It's pretty [laughter] cool. >> Uh yeah, welcome to Hollywood. But yeah, we'll just get right into it. There was a recent clip of you and a few other influencers at a nightclub with Yay song playing in the background. This quickly became an international incident. >> You know what? I can't take a piss without getting an international incident. [laughter] Do you have any idea the a level of stress and heat that's on your head when you are constantly going through life thinking if I stop at this doughut store and buy a donut, it's going to end up an
0:46 international incident? Yeah, I didn't expect that. Um, Clav and Nick, who had never met before, they wanted to stream. So, we started streaming and then they talked about it being Nick's first day in the club. I thought I'd have to go and check it out. And of course it was an international incident. Of course. [laughter] >> Do you believe what happened to you was unfair? >> Look, I've never said anything positive about Israel in my life ever. But I think this whole anti-semitic movement online, if we're going to actually truthfully address it as professionals, has it gotten out of control? I'm not sure. If I walk down the street and someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, Andrew. Hey, I'm a huge fan. Hi, I'm from Israel. I'm going to say, okay, can I have a picture? Sure. A am I supposed
1:33 to punch them in the face? Am I supposed to pull out a knife and stab them? >> It seems like that's what some people want you to do. >> Well, that's what people want me to do, right? If someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, I Israel is uh government is justified in their genocide." I'm going to say, "No, they're not. I think their genocide is completely disgusting. I disagree with nearly everything the Israeli government does." I would argue that the ADL has far too much control over American politics. I would argue there is certainly something strange with the amount of Jewish power that exists in the West. And also the powerful Jews who I meet and who I know brag about that. They're not ashamed of that. They actually say, you know, if you say to a Jew as a non-Jewish person, you control everything, they say you're anti-Semitic. But when you sit with them in private, they're like, we control everything. And they think it's funny.
2:19 So all of that I've been very clear on my positions, but people seem to believe I should just, I don't know, walk around and randomly attack any man who comes up to me who hints that he might have visited Israel at some point. And I think the reason we have this phenomenon is people are trying to escape the matrix, right? People are trying to escape their enslavement and understand how the world works. But the pendulum swings both ways. People are waking up and saying, "I don't understand why my life is shit." And then they're researching online and going, "Ah, my life is [ __ ] because of the Jews." But then they're getting enslaved in a different trap at the other side because then they're saying, "Oh, so I can't win." And everything in life is permanently [ __ ] because of the Jews.
3:04 The Jews don't stop you going to the gym. If you have skinny arms, the Jews didn't do it. But there are people on the internet who will argue, "Yes, they did because Jews have convinced us to be demoralized." and my dog bit me cuz a Jew told it to and that and it goes so far the other way that they haven't escaped any prison. They're back in a new prison which is blaming the Jews for everything. So there's certainly some valid arguments and I've been very clear on what those arguments are. But I have to be very honest with this anti-semitic crap. I have to be very honest and maybe Nick Fuentes and Dan Bolzerian and people who are more extreme than me will disagree. I'm not sure. But I believe Dan Bzerian had Jewish business partners. I don't know what Nick would do, but if I came to film a movie in
3:52 Hollywood in a movie studio and I got paid $100 million and I'm making a movie and halfway through I find out that one of the 300 people who work for the film crew is Jewish. Am I supposed to stop making the movie? Because according to the anti-Semitics on the internet, I should instantly do a salute and walk off and give all the money back. And it's very interesting these people pretend to have these views because none of these people have suffered for their views. They don't even have real accounts. They don't even have their face or their name on their account. They haven't been to jail. They haven't been locked in their house. They haven't had death threats. They haven't had the government try and take their children from them. They haven't had all of their money stolen. They haven't had anything bad happen to them. But they
4:38 expect you as a famous person to martyr yourself. And I guess the real question is, do they actually genuinely expect that or do they just want that when they say, "Andrew, you should have doubled down. You should have done a salute." When they asked, "You should have gone up to the Miami and said, "Hail, and you know, I'm going to kill every Jew I see. That's what you should have done, Andrew, or you sold out." They don't expect that. They want it because it's entertaining. We live in a world now where everyone is so bored and so numb and watching a famous important A-list celebrity like myself martyr himself for the same reason I'd have a huge stream if I set myself on fire. Hi guys, decided to commit suicide today. I'm going to set myself on fire. I'd break the records. So they want me to go out
5:24 and commit suicide. And I have to be honest. Although I think the ADL have too much influence, although I disagree with everything the Israeli government have done, although I think the genocide in Palestine was one of the most disgusting things we've ever seen. If I was filming a movie with 300 film crew and one of them was Jewish, no, I wouldn't quit the movie. If a man comes up to me and shows me respect and he's Jewish, I'm not going to punch him in the face. I'm going to treat him with respect because he shows me respect. Perhaps I'm not anti-Semitic enough for the internet anymore. I don't know. But I'm not going to change and bend on my views because there's a whole bunch of people who think I should. And I would like to actually talk to Nick about this and understand his point of view on this. I wonder what he would do in those scenarios. But I'm a big person and I'm not an internet streaming clown. I'm a
6:10 genuine A-list celebrity. In fact, I've been told multiple times by many different people that I am literally the most famous man in the world. I've been I've been told that. I was the most Googled man in the world. And after being locked in my house for 3 years, I thought, you know, everyone's over. And Tate, maybe it's all over. No one cares. I can't go anywhere. If I walk down the street, I am flooded in every city on the planet. Everywhere I go. Today, I met Chinese Trump. You seen Chinese Trump? >> No. >> No. He's a Chinese guy who does Trump impressions. I just met him coincidentially here in LA. And he says, "You have no idea how famous you are in China." I like in China. He goes, "No." He goes, "No Westerners are famous in China, but you are." It's like, "Am I?" I met Steven Seagal's son who told me that his school project or the school project of all the young men in his
6:57 school was about me and he goes to school in Ulan Batar, Mongolia. Like I can't go anywhere. So I am literally one of the most famous people on the planet. I'm not some nobody streamer who can do these silly things. I have very important things going on. I make hundreds of millions of dollars. I have to work with all sorts of people and some of them are Jewish. That's fine. They know my point of view on Israel. They know my point of view on the genocide. They know my point of view on the ADL. But business is business. And they're like, "Okay, yeah, whatever. You have your point of view. I have my point of view. We're all intelligent adults. We're rational. I disagree with them on loads. They disagree with me on loads. We get things done. If I start walking around attacking Jewish people, how the [ __ ] does that work? That's not even rational." Someone said to me, they said, ' Andrew,
7:43 Dubai, the UAE, allows Jews into the country and they have a embassy for Israel. So, you can either be the UAE and get business done while publicly opposing the Israeli government and get things done and be a rational actor, or you can be some extreme country, which makes you a poor little [ __ ] hole. And I think these streamers just have nothing to lose. They don't understand how the world works. They're not actually famous like I am. They haven't been around enough or been offered anything of significance to truly understand how you must negotiate life as a man. And they've not suffered for their views. If these people online screaming hail every 5 seconds and doing the salute and saying we need to gas all the Jews, if any of them mattered, they wouldn't be
8:28 online anymore. >> But do you not think Nick Fuentes has suffered for his views? >> Absolutely he has. Nick is someone who has suffered, which is why I respect Nick. Which is why Nick, after the outrage of this little clip, said, "I totally understand Andrew's position, cuz Nick is a smart person." But then there were some other streamers who were pretending that they that what I did was somehow wrong, but that's because they're nobodyies. Nobody's have a view. But Nick seems to understand me quite well and he's the most famous anti-semite of all and even he is saying I understand Andrew's position and he has suffered for his views of course but even Nick is not that extreme. Nick tells people on his show don't go around screaming kill all the Jews. Don't go around saying don't let everyone know at your university you're an anti-semite.
9:15 That's not intelligent. That's not smart. Whereas other streamers are saying no you need to tell them all to [ __ ] off all the time. You can't win that way. You know, when you're actually a really important person in a in a culture war, and I am one of them, you win the culture war by pointing everyone in the correct direction and allowing momentum to do the rest. It is my job as the most followed man on the planet to 1% point in a direction. The matrix is controlling your life. And I get people to think about it and then they research and then they work it out themselves. If I don't allow people to work it out themselves and instead I explain it all, I get shot in the head. Then I can't help anybody. To win the war, it's my job to point people in the right direction and let them do the rest. Now, some of those people who are pointed in
10:01 the right direction are so silly and so stupid and so treacherous, they will now turn around and yell at me, "Hey, you showed me the beginning, but you didn't show me the end. You're a traitor. You're a sellout. I showed you the beginning. Do you understand? If I show you all of it, I die. And I can't show anyone else the beginning. People have died for far less. I know pe at the bottom and the top. We just saw Charlie Kirk eat a [ __ ] bullet. We They tried to put a bullet in Trump. You think they're not going to try and put a bullet in me? You think they're not already considering it or planning it or thinking about it currently as we sit here right now? So for anyone who sits and believes I should martyr myself and I should just go as extreme as possible and anything to not sell out as they sit there as a nobody, they don't even understand the
10:48 war. I am smart enough and I always have been smart enough to know when somebody who is risking everything to give me a hint is doing something they don't have to do and I understood they were on the right side of the fight cuz I could just shut the [ __ ] up and say nothing at all. >> And so many people have >> and most people have. 99.9% of people have. Like honestly, I get more attention on the street and I'm more wellknown than nearly every single movie star. It's the Grammys now. You get the list of everyone at the Grammys. Brad Pitt, George Clooney. Cool. The rest of them, I don't know who the [ __ ] they are. I don't know who these celebrities are. They say, "Hey, this celebrity said this or this celebrity is dating this person." I don't know who these people are. There are too many movies. There are too many Netflix shows. Everyone's in a [ __ ] movie. No one even knows. None of these
11:34 people even matter. Why are they in movies and I'm not? Because they shut the [ __ ] up. Why am I not the face of a fragrance or a clothing brand? I'm the right demographic. All the young boys love me. There'll be billions of generated dollars. Why? Cuz I won't shut the [ __ ] up. So, I'm turning away billions of dollars and some dipshit's going to sit there go, "You sold out, bro." >> [laughter] >> It's like, you know, the sad thing about it, truthfully, Jack, when that happens, you start to understand why everyone sells out. You start to sit there and go, "What the [ __ ] am I fighting for? Why am I trying to help these clowns? I show them the beginning. I was the one who woke the world up only two years
12:20 ago. It was me. I went to jail for it. I suffered for it. Me alone by myself. I did it. And now they're saying, "You showed me the beginning, but not the end." Because you're a traitor. >> You can't show the end. >> I can't show the end. Not that I don't know the end. I can't show the end. I know so much more than I can say. But if I say it, we're going to lose because unless I keep showing people the beginning, the war's over and they're going to put a bullet in me. So it makes me sit and calculate all the money I've turned down. All the beautiful red carpet events, all the [ __ ] I could have [ __ ] all the fun I could have had, could have been on [ __ ] Jeff Bezos's [ __ ] yacht, could have done all these things. I've done none of it because I wanted to point people in the right direction. And what thanks do I get? What thanks do I get when I finally
13:07 fly to America after a year and I meet up with a couple guys and they play a silly song and instead of saying, "Yeah, gas all the Jews." I sit and say, "Look, I understand why the song's offended some people. I didn't play it. I didn't actually play the song. Don't you think everyone panicking about this song just proves the Jews have power? You're a sellout." It makes you think, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to sell out. You know what would teach the world a lesson, Jack? If I sold out. If tomorrow I took a $500 million check and went and made Hollywood movies and just deleted Twitter and then let all these poor people watch my movies and pay me more money while having their opinions on me and I can wear Versace. I can [ __ ] hoes and spray shampoo. I'll show you
13:53 sellout. Continue world and I'll show you sellout. I was the first and original freedom fighter and thinking these stupid [ __ ] nobody streamers who aren't a listen who no one gives a [ __ ] about them who just sit on a stream and run their mouths and have to be controversial to even get any views. Thinking they are moving the needle is the biggest mistake you can make cuz they're not moving any [ __ ] needles. I've had conversations in private rooms off camera that have moved the needle more than these clowns will ever ever move in their [ __ ] lives. >> Yeah, it totally makes sense. And I'm honestly to prove your point further, I'm a little surprised at some of the things you've said thus far uh in terms of how much risk I know it puts you at in doing this podcast. Like I'll transparently admit that I'm like a lot
14:38 of people don't share the full truth cuz I do full research. Yeah. You know, and you're one of the few people who does >> at least gives hints. You know, our last episode, I don't know if you recall this, but I asked you if you knew who was really in power. Would you say it? And you kind of paused a bit, but Tristan said it, you know, and that was the first time I'd ever heard anything about this certain thing going on. But I do want to ask you, all the hate I'm seeing is people are saying you sold Sneo out. Uh saying that Sneo was the person who played the song in the club. And I thought that was a little out of character for you. But with everything you've just said, having been through a
15:24 lot, it's just kind of like, let me avoid another tragedy. >> Yeah. The problem with talking about him is he likes it because he needs it for his stream. So, he's going to take this clip and he's going to sit on his stream to his few viewers and he's going to make a big deal of it. First things first, I don't think I sold him out. And I'll tell you why. Firstly, he hasn't been my friend for a very long time. He's not my boy. He's not like Tristan. You know, I hung out with him years ago when he was emulating me, trying to be me desperately. I made his career by speaking to him. Otherwise, he would have stayed a nobody forever. Instead of showing me thanks for that, he started every time I wouldn't reply to his texts, go on stream and cry in some way and complain
16:10 about me. It was very [ __ ] It was very weird. Like he begged to be my friend one side and then do a stream insulting me the next side. Back and forth. Anything for views. Very strange. And I'm not the only person he did it to. And then I said to Tristan, "Anyone who names themselves Sneo." Like, you're naming yourself Sneaky. Imagine I was saying, "Hey, my name's Rat. It's it's a [ __ ] [ __ ] name and it's weird." So I was like, you know, I'm not going to talk to him anymore. So I didn't talk to him for four long years. I I'm going to avoid this guy cuz he's just weird. And then I get to MIMA, I speak to Clav, and Clav is with Nick Fuentes and he begs for Sneo to come. And I said, "Sneo's weird." Begs and begs and begs. Here we are. Who's on the internet insulting me? Sneaky. Sneaky's now on
16:58 the internet with an opinion. Luckily, he doesn't matter. Sneaky doesn't matter. When this controversy is over, he's going to have to go back to making videos no one watches and trying to find some other controversy. He He's not in business. He's not making any money. He's not close to the Trump family. He's not moving politics. He's not and no Hollywood actor wants him. He He isn't connected to the royal family in Dubai. He isn't doing anything. He's not in a position where if he says the wrong thing, the royal family in Dubai will say, "Sorry, you can't have your political protection and your golden visa. Sorry, we can't give you the Emirati passport anymore." Like, he doesn't he's he's at such a low level. He doesn't even contemplate the world above him. He doesn't understand why some people can't do what he's doing because he doesn't matter. So, I don't think I sold him out. I was told he played the song because Justin
17:45 and I were playing country music and then Justin's phone got taken off him and the song was put on. Everyone says Sneo put it on. So, when I went there, I said, "Well, I didn't put on the song. Sneak put it on." I mean, there's no point in trying to hide who put on the song. It's on [ __ ] camera who put on the song. If it wasn't him who put on the song, then I was incorrectly informed. As if I give a [ __ ] anyway. It doesn't matter who put on the song because it wasn't me. Right. Why did I not play the song? It truthfully, it didn't cross my mind. I guess I didn't sit there thinking, I need to entertain the public. Let me do something outlandish. It just didn't cross my mind to do something like that. But one of the people played the song and it wasn't me. I believed and I was told it was Sneo.
18:30 I'm still pretty sure it is Sneo. Unless you're about to say we've checked the footage and it's someone else. I still think it's Sneo. So I said, "Sneo played the song. invite Sneo on here to defend himself. I don't think that's selling him out. He's a full-g grown man. He's a big guy. Big tough Sneo has so much to say about me. Go defend yourself on the podcast. But he doesn't want to defend himself. He wants me to defend him for him and me to risk everything for him and me to deal with all the political problems from different administrations around the world and for me to go to a court in England and be facing hate speech charges for 5 years in jail for him. And if I go jail, will he write to me? No. He'll go on stream and go, Andrew's in jail. Cuz he sits there in front of me like a little puppy dog begging me for advice
19:16 and then the second he's on a stream, he tries to make fun of me cuz his name's Sneaky. So I didn't want to see him. Clav begged me. And you know what, Jack? It's the story of my life. I'm too nice. I was like, [ __ ] he's a [ __ ] [ __ ] Fine. Here we are. So >> yeah, I think just I from my assessment I've had all these guys on the podcast except for Sneo. Um and >> he'll he'll come here and say nice podcast. Then he'll do a stream saying it was a [ __ ] podcast, the guy's a weirdo. He'd be like what the [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> he's [ __ ] weird, bro. >> I will say I think Clav has enough respect for you that I do not think it would be him because I know Clav very personally. Um >> and then everyone [snorts] else it wouldn't make any sense. Nick as well. Uh so it checks out. But did you have a
20:03 conversation with Yay about what happened at the club in Miami? >> I don't think he's happy about it from what I've heard. I'm not going to say I spoke to him directly. Even if I did speak to him directly, I would not say that I spoke to him directly read between the lines, but he wouldn't be happy about that. >> Isn't it interesting that people who are truly at the top of A-list fame like Kanye eventually realize that they're going to get in a new form. They're they're not going to be able to enjoy oxygen for much longer if they continue down the path they're on. Myself, Kanye, etc. And if you were truly smart, let's do a thought experiment. If I was a nobody account or a nobody on the internet or a [ __ ] called sneaky
20:48 and it was my intention to convince everybody in the world that there was a particular group of people that had nearly unlimited power in Western society. Surely I'd be very thankful for the A-list celebrities which are 10,000 times larger than me who go to bat and point everyone in the right direction and then publicly say, "Ah, I can't do this anymore for unknown reasons." Aren't we helping you? Aren't we showing that your theory is correct? Oh, no. I guess what we should have done is not mention anything at all and be rich and famous, more rich and famous than we currently are, or just go to the end where we get shot in the head. People at
21:34 home with a brain need to sit and go, you know what? If they start the conversation and then abruptly stop the conversation, they're actually helping our conversation. Kanye helped because now he's supposedly spoke to someone because he didn't speak to me saying that doesn't help anything. I've done my bit and I don't want that song played anymore. He has his reasons. I have my reasons to not go up there and be extreme. Now, I'm not going to kiss the wall. If they say kiss the wall or we'll kill you, then they're going to kill me cuz I'm a man and I have limits, right? Everyone in life has limits. It's like I wouldn't let robbers my girlfriend kill me. There's limits. I'm not going to kiss the [ __ ] wall. I'm not going to [ __ ] go there. I'm not
22:19 going to start being praising their government. [ __ ] them and [ __ ] their government. [ __ ] all that. But there does get to a point where the riskreward just ain't there, right? Saying, "I'm doing 99% right, but there's this last 1% of extremism that definitely gets me killed, 100% death, and then you hold your daughter who's 5 years old or whatever, and you're like, is this to please who? Sneaky. [ __ ] him." Right? So Kanye isn't happy about that song being played. Let's sit here as intelligent people and say why would he not be happy about his song in a club. Maybe something happens behind the scenes which means he's whoever is doing things behind the scenes has shadow power perhaps. Anyone with a brain can see that. But of course, you know what
23:05 most people will say? They'll say he's sold out. They'll say he's a sellout. >> If you've never played chess, it's hard to see if other people are playing it. >> Absolutely. Most people, the reason if there was a Shadow Cabal in charge of the world, the reason they get away with it is cuz people are [ __ ] retards, bro. People are [ __ ] retards. Anyone who thinks I sold out is a [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] And the worst thing about it is it only encourages you to sell out. It encourages you to sell out. Encourages you to take the money, enjoy your life, and let everyone else suffer. Let them stay broke, unknown, insignificant. Let them be controlled by the matrix. Let them have a [ __ ] life. Go on my yacht and have a great time. That's what it convinces you to do. I
23:51 don't want to be a dead horse here, but to give people context as well, uh, on why you're kind of denying involvement with the whole playing of the song, uh, what's your current legal case in 2026? Yeah. So, my current legal situation is precarious. Uh, in Romania, the case against me is technically open. It was actually thrown out in December of 2023. A judge ruled there was no evidence to take me to trial. So, after all the imprisonment, all the house arrest, all the media slander, all the asset seizures, I couldn't see my mom when she had a heart attack. They tried to take my kids off me. After all of that, they said, "Oh, there's not enough evidence here for a trial." and they threw the case out.
24:36 Two months later in February, I was given my passport, but I remain on bail and the case remains open. Even though it was rejected, it was given back to the prosecutor and they said, "If you can find evidence or fix it, we'll take it to trial." So, it sat on a prosecutor's desk for a year. God knows, but at any point they can revoke my passport. So, if I say something too extreme online, they can go in front of a judge and they can play it to the judge and say, "Look, he's an extremist." and they can revoke my passport. Not a lot of people understand that the European Union does not have free speech laws. Romania does not have free speech laws. All of the EU, they'll lock you up for a tweet. So, if you sit on a video and say, "Ah, we should gas all the Chinese, they can show a judge, take your passport instantly and lock
25:22 you in your house." And after four years in my house without trial, it seems they can do it indefinitely. It seems then the UK have a warrant out for my arrest which will be executed when the Romanian case eventually closes. God knows when cuz supposedly I assaulted someone in 2009. Who? Don't know where. Don't know when. Don't know. 2009 assault. Defend yourself. Okay. Who? Can't tell you. Where? Can't tell you. When? Can't tell you. Well, how do I find these things out? Just come to England. Yeah. No. So, that's that. Also, conveniently, very strange that Tristan also assaulted someone in 2009. So, we
26:07 both have the same warrant. Isn't that a convenient co, you know, isn't that a coincidence? They were just running around in 2009. No, they want to get the tape brothers off the internet. It was actually the Romanian government cucking to the British in the first place that got us arrested. The British labeled us a national security threat in 2022 when I was the most Googled man in the world. They said that I was an unchecked source of influence and that at the time I could have tweeted a time and a date and a place and people would have turned up and rioted and I had young men under my thr under my control so heavily that I was a threat to national security. And they wrote to the Romanians saying he's a threat to national security. Do something about it. And that was the basis of all my case. So it wasn't even the Romanians
26:53 that were ever against me. They were just the executioner. They were the attack dog. But the attack dog was let go by the British. MI6 are who hit me and they're still trying to get me. So I have a British warrant and I have a Romanian warrant. In America, I have no problems besides a nightclub video, but that's the current stasis of my legal cases. So, of course, very much like the Romanians can instantly revoke my bail and take my passport, if I said anything extreme against any particular group of people, that's hate speech, which is instantly 5 years in jail. Eventually, someday I'm going to be in a British court and they're going to play all of my podcasts back in front of a judge cuz they always do. If I sit and say women can't drive, they're going to play it back. He's a misogynist. This podcast
27:38 will be seen by judges and and prosecutors. In fact, hello future Andrew. I know you're standing there right now smiling. I'm going to stand in court and they're going to play this to me. So, if I go on a podcast after a nightclub incident and start going [ __ ] kill everyone. I mean, I guess the internet expects me to just go to jail for for a decade and just sit in a room by myself. What? For clout? Yeah. At least the guys on the internet like me. The guys on the internet will forget about. They don't give a [ __ ] It seems to me, Andrew, that after doing this podcast for a while, the one thing that people are not allowed to say is they're not allowed to incite violence in any way, and that seems to be the thing that they're afraid of. Would you say that's mostly true? >> I'd say that's mostly true, but
28:24 unfortunately, it's open-ended. So if you make a law saying you can't incite violence, they can interpret that any way possible because you can now just insult someone and they can say that you're trying to dehumanize them or make people feel a certain way about them so that you do incite violence against them. So it's such an open >> Is that why the song freaked you out particularly? >> It the song didn't even freak me out. The thing that's crazy is when the song came on, if you watch the stream, I didn't even give a [ __ ] I didn't run away. I didn't hide my face. I just stood there like whatever. Like even in my position knowing the trouble it will get me in, I still bossed it. Right? Remember if Sneaky was in my position, he'd be he would have by now. He wouldn't be able to take the pressure. He would have literally up a long time ago if he had gone through a fraction of what I'd gone through. So I didn't run
29:11 away. He didn't punk out. I just stood there like whatever. But if someone's going to say, "You played the song." No, I didn't play the song. And I'm going to have it documented on video that I did not play the song. So that when I go to court and the prosecutor says he played the song, put him in jail. I'm going to say, "No, I didn't." I always said I didn't I've never played the song. So I don't need 5 years in jail. Your honor, I'm not doing five years in jail for Sneaky, bro. [ __ ] him. He can do his own jail. I don't even like him. Nobody likes him. Everyone I talk to about him says the same thing. His friends who he's with, no one likes that guy. And it's because he has this pattern of behavior. And it's not only me. He does it to everybody. So, um yeah, I have a lot of uh guns aimed at my head still to this day. And it's interesting considering I've never been convicted of any crime and I actually never did
29:56 anything wrong. We're in LA right now, right? We could walk out this door and drive for about 10 minutes in any direction and find a ketamanfueled orgy. We could find women getting gangbanged. We could find dudes [ __ ] each other. You could find people doing all sorts of insanity. None of them are being arrested. None of them are being called sexual criminals. None of them are being targeted by the state. But I am 2009 assault. No, it's because I speak on the internet and I make young men stick up for themselves and they know they are very aware that they are trying to destroy Western society. They're trying to print as much money as possible so they can steal it. They're trying to bring in as many immigrants as possible to distract us so we fight against each other while they all escape on their life rafts. And they know that young men
30:42 are the only ones who are going to stand up against them. And telling them to be strong and think for themselves is a national security threat. They're actually right. I'll admit my enemy is correct. Not so much now, but in 2022, I was a national security threat. I could have said, "Burn down Westminster and it would have burnt down." And if you watch my videos and the way I talk on the internet and you knew I had that much power, any prudent, intelligent MI6 officer would conclude that I had to be stopped. So, I'm not even mad at my enemy. I'm so logical. It's like the mafia when the mafia put a hit on your boy and they kill him and you're like it's business. I get it. I'm I'm glad they didn't kill me. And maybe they will, but they could have. If I had been
31:28 this powerful against Putin in Russia, I'd be dead. NBS and Saudi dead. Erdiggon and Turkey dead. Xi and China dead. I'm lucky they just locked me up a little bit. But it's a game we have to play. There's power dynamics and all these things. Even the mafia respect the police and the police respect the mafia. Watch the movies. They actually understand each other. They're like, "You're on that side. I'm on this side." But it's war and there's rules to war and we get it and you're going to do your bit and I'm going to do my bit and we're both going to try and win. But there's rules to a degree and we actually have a healthy respect for each other. That's what it's like with people at the top against the system, against the matrix. That's what it's like for me. I understand why they do what they do. I don't hate them and they don't hate me.
32:18 A wolf doesn't hate a rabbit, but there's guaranteed to be violence between the two. >> It's just human nature. If two lions see each other, they may not hate each other, but look, there's certain amount of territory here. There's certain amount of mind space in the in the cerebrum of young men in the Western society. And you're taking too much territory. You've taken too much land. So now we're going to fight over this land. It's not personal. This is just territorial dispute. It's how it goes between gangs is the same. People at the bottom don't understand these things. I know why they hit me and I think that they were correct to hit me. Not because I've done anything wrong, not because I was going to do anything wrong, but based on a completely pragmatic, emotionless analysis of the situation at
33:04 the time. If I was the MI6 officer watching Andrew Tate scream the way I scream on videos, saying the things I say, understanding the power I had, I would not be a very good MI6 officer unless I said, "Let's construct a case and put him in a [ __ ] cell." >> I do want to speak to that specific point you made more. But I do want to ask, as far as the accusations go of some of the women, uh, do any of these particularly sting you? Like, are there any that you're surprised about? No, it's all made up. It's all made up. Um, there's very few actual genuine accusations. And because I'm a misogynist, may as well admit it cuz I keep calling me one. I don't expect I mean, how much loyalty can I expect from a woman? Let's once again I'm pragmatic. Many people when they're in a
33:52 position because they want it to be different. They're very emotional about it. That's not me. I'm a full-g grown man. So I'm approaching this removing my personal feelings from it. A girl is approached by federal agencies. A girl who I knew 12 years ago. She's now moved on and she has a new man. Her new man doesn't know I [ __ ] her left and right all over the place. She has kids. She has a simple but fairly happy little life. She's not even attractive anymore. She's a bit fat, smokes too many cigarettes, whatever. She finally gets dragged into a room with federal operatives and they're like, "We know you used to know Andrew Tate." And she's like, "Shit, I don't even want anyone to know this." Yeah. So, he's a bad guy. Well, he was good to me. No, he's not good to you. He hurts people. Well, he
34:39 didn't hurt me. Are you defending him? Well, I'm just saying he didn't hurt me. Okay, but we need to understand who's defending him and who isn't. Well, I'm not defending him. I'm just saying he didn't hurt me. Okay, because you know there's going to be a public trial coming up. And if you're defending him over 6 hours, they pressure this person into eventually saying, "Yes, he yelled at me. Assault 2009. Whatever. Give me the pen." Because Andrew is rich and famous. He doesn't give me any money. Andrew's forgotten about me. I tried to text him a hundred times. He doesn't reply. Why am I going to defend Andrew and lose my husband? Why am I going to ruin my relationship? Why am I wasting my day with the police? Why am I going through any of this for Andrew? He doesn't even remember who the [ __ ] I am.
35:24 Andrew slept with thousands of women. He doesn't even know who I am anymore. Just give me the piece of paper. Just sign. Logically, me as a man, can I really expect her as some random chick to sit there AND GO, "NO, I STAND ON MY PRINCIPLES. Andrew never hurt me." No. Of course not. This is the real world. Your friends will sell you out, bro. You can go to a [ __ ] club with some nobody and be nice to him to give him clicks for his [ __ ] [ __ ] streams and he'll sell you out. Let alone some [ __ ] you [ __ ] 10 years ago. So, am I sad that some silly bimbo got convinced by worldle psychologists and federal agencies to lie? Truthfully, it's like, well, duh. It's like being sad about the rain. It's like I don't
36:10 want it to rain, but it rains and now I'm wet. >> You know, I had a Russian sex spy, a former on the podcast, and I was asking her like, "Did you ever have to get rid of a woman so you could approach a Target?" And she's like, "Oh, yeah. It's the easiest part of it." >> Yeah. >> You just go to a bar with her and then you take a photo of her and send it to the guy or you just give her money. She said, "That's the easiest part of the job by far." compromise. >> And when you're not physically strong, that reflects your mentality. You're not prepared to sit there and argue with big strong men with guns when you know you're physically weak to defend somebody you no longer speak to. It's it's just women are weak and you can just bend them into things. You can
36:56 force them into things. You're the you're the [ __ ] cops, bro. You can put people in jail. You think you can't get some chick in there and scare her? Of course you can. And I don't expect any of these women to be strong enough to tell them to get [ __ ] Now, some women did. Some women called me up and goes, "I was just with the police for eight hours, and I for eight hours, I told them to [ __ ] off." And I was like, "Well, you're a legend." But most women aren't going to do that. Some women do. But that's why it's a numbers game. They call a thousand women. They only need one. I mean, if you called a thousand women and ask who is an angel, literally, do you believe you're an angel from heaven or do you believe you were born from your mother? Think about it for a day. I'll call you back tomorrow. If you call a thousand, one of them will go, you know what? I've actually been thinking about it and I've been thinking about my experiences in life. And you know what? Maybe I am an angel. Literally, you could find a woman
37:43 and you call a thousand of them to admit she's a [ __ ] fruit salad, bro. Anything. So, all you have to do is get one of them to what? Not get one of them to break in an 8 hour interrogation. This is why the police do it cuz they know they get what they want. They always get what they want. They could do it to you. The second you piss them off, they just get a list of chicks and lean on them and get what they want. Everyone knows this. They did it with Trump to our president. They found Eene Carol, a psycho who doesn't even who admits, "I don't remember the rape, but I remember being raped." What the [ __ ] are we talking about? Convicted him. Started calling him a felon. Like, on what planet are we? We all know that's [ __ ] But they still do it. And people still sit there and go, "Oh my god, he's accused of
38:30 [ __ ] clown show. >> Everyone has an accusation except for Nick Quentes and he's a virgin, you know." >> Yeah. I mean, I think one of the reasons probably the only reason Nick is still on the internet is because he avoids women. Because if he had had a sexual history by now, they would have caught him. Nick's problem is that you get three lives. The first life is they cancel you. They've already canceled him, but now he's kind of back. So, he did good. But they canceled me and I came back. I invented coming back from cancellation. I was the first [ __ ] to ever get cancelceled and and get bigger. First one, Nick got cancelceled, didn't get bigger. He disappeared for a long time. I got cancelled and got bigger. Realest [ __ ] alive. I invented that. Second, they try and put you in jail. Third, they kill you. The problem that Nick has, and I
39:15 actually really like Nick, is that if his taxes are in order and he ain't touching women, they really haven't got much they can get him with on stage two. And that doesn't mean they let you off. That means they skip stage two and they just kill you. Let's talk about Charlie Kirk. Why did they not just put him in jail? Because no one's going to believe Trump's DOJ prosecuting Charlie Kirk. Doesn't make sense. He's Trump's friend. Why would the Department of Justice try and prosecute Charlie Kirk? He's squeaky clean. Taxes paid. He's not like me. I get I made it easy for them. He's [ __ ] a thousand women. Call him up. Get him. Right. He ain't [ __ ] a thousand [ __ ] He ain't running around [ __ ] with all these girlfriends like me. They went through his life. How are we going to get him in jail? How we going to get
40:01 him in jail? How we going to get him in jail? You know what? There's literally nothing here. Next. Bang. I'm lucky with me. I gave him the layup. If I had lived squeaky clean like a dummy, if I had done everything right, they would have just killed me. But instead, they're like, "We have to fix this Andrew Tate problem. Killing people is messy and it makes them a martyr. It can make them bigger. And even as a government, killing someone in another country, even the Brits killing someone in Romania. I know how this stuff works. Trust me. They have to speak to the Romanian government. They have to try and clear it all. They have to understand their agent might get arrested. Then there's an international incident to get him out. Even the Russians when they killed that guy in Germany, you can look it up. He got arrested. said he was in jail for 3 years before Putin could swap him. The the governments when it comes to personal assassinations outside of drone
40:46 strikes in third world countries. Even they don't like to really do it. Macron could kill Candace, but even he is like on American soil and American citizen. It's very it's still a big deal for a government. So when they said let's get rid of Andrew Tate, our options are to kill him or put him in jail. Well, let's see how we can put him in jail. And they looked for 10 seconds like oh [ __ ] hell. He's a [ __ ] treasure trove. He was a [ __ ] fighter. He sold weed when he was 18. He's [ __ ] every girl he [ __ ] could. He was running around drunk. He He [ __ ] drove cars too fast. [ __ ] this guy. Just [ __ ] just [ __ ] get him. I gave it to him on a plate. I'm not stupid. I know I did. Of course I gave it to him on a plate. I [ __ ] everyone. So Nick's problem is he hasn't given it
41:33 to him on a plate because people talk about my human trafficking accusations. You can look it up right now. The British government took33.2 million pounds of my money for tax evasion, too. So, they got me for that. They get me for this. They're like, "Just [ __ ] get him." And I just keep giving it to him, laying it up. I'm a dumbass. So, but it saved me or I would be dead. Nick's problem, and I really care about Nick, is that it's almost like, you know, I have lots of businesses and I have a restaurant. And in my restaurant, I let my staff steal a little. Because if I let them steal none, they quit. And if I let them steal too much, I don't make any money. So I make sure that I allow them to steal enough so that they feel happy to go to
42:19 work and they think they're winning, but I am also on it enough to stop them stealing so much I don't make profit. Like you have to give and get you have to give a little. If you're too strict, it gets worse. And I gave the enemy the second strike and Nick didn't or he hasn't or he won't or he can't. And Charlie didn't. And we look what happened to him. So I'm worried about Nick. I'm actually genuinely worried about Nick. And I think that Nick is smart enough also to worry about himself. >> Why do you think Charlie Kirk was assassinated? Do you think it was because of feminism? [laughter] [sighs and gasps] Let's talk as professionals here. Sorry
43:04 for the pause. I'm just scanning what's going to keep me alive. So, I know who killed him. And the only person who is overtly giving theories as to who killed him publicly is Candace. The reason Candace is breathing is because she is a woman and because she is black and the people in charge have thought, they've concluded, you know what, let a black woman scream. Most people will, you know, even if they listen to her, you know, it's a black chick and we're just going to let her scream into the air and we'll just put it down to black female hysterical actions. We'll just put it down to that. >> You think that's it? >> Yeah. We'll get some bots on Twitter and
43:50 we'll get everyone to call her crazy and we'll pretend she's hysterical and we'll push all of this narrative that she's nuts with some paid influencers and we're going to get everyone to call her crazy. Even if she's right on the [ __ ] money, even if she gets it perfectly right, even in one of her episodes, if she describes it perfect, we're just going to convince everyone she's nuts cuz she's a black chick and we can convince people that she's just hysterical like the Walmart ran out of [ __ ] cocoa butter and she's mad. So, let's just do that. If you're a man in a sharp suit like yours or if I put a suit on and I sit there and I break it down in a very logical that there still is that degree of misogyny in the world where a man is taken a little bit more seriously with some things. And then if you get it directly on the money with a different tone and they can't really call you crazy if you don't give them
44:35 the second life, if you don't give them an easy layup, well then you pay the price. That's the first thing to analyze. Now let's analyze a couple other things. It's not my job to say who killed Charlie. It's the job of our agencies which we subsidize with our taxes, our tax money, to convince me that they know who killed Charlie. Not just to say who killed Charlie, but it is your job to convince me that what you are saying is the truth. The Magna Carta says not only will justice be done, justice must seem to be done. That is the basis of western law. Not only do we operate from a place of justice, but people at home see and experience the justice. I am giving
45:23 millions or billions of dollars or the American public are giving billions of dollars to agencies whose job it is to find out what happened, tell us what happened and punish the person who did it. Now, if nobody believes their story, that is very detrimental to the faith in public institutions. And it is the faith in public institutions which keep a democracy functioning. We believe in elections because we believe they're fair. We go to court because we believe it's fair. Otherwise, it breaks down into madishu. Otherwise, it's AK-47s and machetes. If you believe you don't get a fair chance in court, you just kill your enemy. The [ __ ] we going to talk about? So, it is their job to make us believe them and have trust in them. and nobody believes the story. And they're not coming out to publicly disavow the other
46:10 theories. They're not coming out to show evidence to prove that they told the truth. They're not coming out to stand up and double down and say, "No, you guys are wrong. We got it right. This was our friend. This is important." That's their job. And they're not. I mean, if I was in charge of an agency and nobody believed me and I knew I was telling the truth, I'd make them believe me. Weird. I don't know. That's just a theory of mine. strange. And the third thing I want to talk about is that Charlie undoubtedly was going to be president and he was undoubtedly massively influential and he had an influence different than these streamers and clowns. >> Did you see him as influential? Because that's the point I want to touch on is everyone I asked is like you're
46:56 influential. Charlie's not influential. He makes a certain set of people mad, but he's not our hero. >> Correct. I am more influential in the hearts and minds of young men than Charlie ever was. True. But Charlie could do something that a lot of streamers can't do. I can do it, but most streamers can't. And what he could do, and this is very important, he could operate in the physical realm. He could force people to be kinetic. He could get people to go to a place. >> You think that's a small thing? If Sneaky said, "Hey guys, come here." No one's going to go. Three people will go. 10 people will go. No one gives a [ __ ] [ __ ] you. But if I say, "Guys, I can fill a stadium. Charlie can fill a stadium." A stadium is an army. >> When you can make people move from their
47:41 seats, when you can shake people out of apathy, you have a different level of power. You have a different level of influence. And Charlie could undoubtedly do that across the country. So Charlie was very influential in that regard. And when you look at Charlie Kirk and what happened to him, you have to understand that every single thing that happens in the world is simply just an endless battle, a never-ending tapestry. It's like the food chain where the fish eats the slug and the shark eats the fish and the alligator doesn't normally eat sharks, but [ __ ] him. It's constantly everyone after each other in a battle for influence. The media is trying to influence you of things. Advertising is trying to influence you
48:26 of things. Streamers are trying to influence you of things. Celebrities have their points of view. The label on this bottle, exquisite effervescence, is trying to convince you of something. It's all a battle for influence all of the time. And if you're a true power player, you have influence. I had more influence over the young men than the BBC. The BBC said do something, they didn't listen. If I said do something, they did listen. So they hit me. So Charlie had influence and everyone who didn't like or was threatened by what he was about to say or how he was about to use or how he was currently using his influence wanted him gone. It's all just an influence battle. Charlie was an influential person and that's why he's dead. So to get to the bottom of who
49:12 shot him in the neck, the an the question is who was threatened by or was soon to be threatened by what he was doing and saying. And if you work that out, you can get to the bottom of it. Funnily enough, in a lot of these scenarios, people go, "Ah, liberals." [laughter] Sorry to interrupt, but if you're a fan of this podcast and want to support real free speech, I just launched a Patreon for the channel. If you join, you get access to all my episodes early and ad free, as well as the chance to ask each guest a question on my show. We also have some cool behind-the-scenes footage as well as some unreleased episodes. But if you guys want to check it out, just go to jackneil.com/patreon or you can scan the QR code on screen.
49:58 For the first 300 people, you get a 70% discount. So, sign up quickly. And look, I get it. If you're someone who doesn't want to pay money for extra content or podcasts that are adree, I have a little gift for you. If you go on the Patreon right now for free, you can get an extra 5minute segment from this podcast. I asked Tate, "Do you think AI is going to kill us all?" And his answer is pretty interesting. Again, guys, jackneil.com/patreon. Scan the QR code on screen. But anyway, back to the podcast. Liberals don't Liberals aren't threatened by us. Liberals like the fight. They like arguing with us. Liberals like feeling like there are somebody. Liberals are the most argumentative, mentally ill retards on the planet. If you put 10 liberals in a room, all they're going to
50:44 do is fight against each other cuz someone's going to accidentally forget to use a pronoun. But they'll all ally against you. Liberals need you and they need me. Liberals need Charlie so they can stay friends. Liberals need the common enemy. Liberals don't want to get rid of their enemies. They want to sit and argue with their enemies. They want to feel important. They want to feel morally superior. Liberals aren't out to kill important conservative figures. Personally, I mean, I know they're saying it was some liberal, some guy thought experiment. Maybe [laughter] not. I mean, let's look at the Butler, Pennsylvania story. That dude got up on the roof with the rifle. [ __ ] on the
51:30 roof. I made a joke of it and he in front of the Secret Service and he just put his rifle together and just tried to kill the president and then just they instantly blasted him after he pulled the trigger. So they were already aiming at him and just just some some guy and he just yeah he was radicalized and just some guy. It's all just a crook of [ __ ] It's all just a lie. >> It's all it's all just it's all just made up. >> And if I'm wrong then the FBI or the DOJ or someone should stand up and say, "Here, Andrew, you're wrong. Here's why. And I should sit and go, "Oh, I understand now. Sorry. I apologize. I stand corrected." Not sit and go, "Everyone at home knows we're lying, but we can't risk telling any more details cuz they're going to work out we're lying even worse. So, let's just let everybody not believe in us anymore."
52:17 >> Let me ask you this, Andrew. In your position, do you find yourself more worried about a radicalized individual or like a another group? I am far more worried about a government action than a radicalized individual. I'm not worried about the person at home who decides to say, "Hey, Andrew Tape." No. And if they if I ever get killed by somebody who they say we found on his computer a letter he wrote about how much he hated Andrew Tate. The [ __ ] We found his passport in the wreckage. You know, we found the pass. It's like it's a [ __ ] joke, bro. If I ever get killed by some individual who hates me, it was a government. Governments love the scapegoat. Like, let's imagine a group
53:03 of people wanting to kill our president. They'd send some piece of [ __ ] up there to get blasted knowing he's going to die. They'd convince him to do it and then they'd just blame it on some lone wolf. You know, all the intelligence agencies on the planet are currently trying to recruit idiots to do things exactly like this. If you go to Turkey or you go to Kazakhstan, Usbekiststan, Kyrgystan, any of these countries, and if you hung around there for a while, and if you knew the people I know, eventually you'd end up in conversations with people who would try and convince you to do extreme things, dangerous things. and they work for foreign intel agencies. Whether they work for the Ukrainians and want you to commit an act of atrocity against the Russians like the Moscow attackers did not too long ago and killed all those people in the stadium, whether they work for the Russians and want you to commit an act of atrocity against the Ukrainians and they'd convince you that you'd be paid well and you'd be a hero and you should
53:48 do it and they'd sit there and they try and find some guy who's half mentally ill or a little bit [ __ ] or broke or desperate. Every intel agency on the planet as it currently stands is trying to recruit people specifically to do stupid things so they can blame that person after the action takes place. There are no lone wolves. This is all intel agencies. This is all they do. You know, it's interesting because we can even look at Islamic terror. >> Mhm. >> They they don't blow themselves up. They find some young guy and convince him to go blow himself up. I thought you got a bunch of virgins. Like I'm I'm Muslim. I'm saying if you got a bunch of virgins for blowing yourself up, surely they'd be doing it themselves. Why are they convincing someone else to do it? It's just the way the world works, right? So, >> and how persuasive are they? >> Unfortunately, you don't have to be that persuasive.
54:35 Very much like my situation with the girls. It's a numbers game. You talk to 10,000 people and eventually you find one and you go, "Ah, okay." If you can add in some psychiatric meds, if you can add in promises that they're going to make it out and they're going to be a hero and all these things, if you can add in fake friends, like I think they were saying that Tyler, who killed Charlie, was on Discord talking to his friends who were convincing him to do it. Were they friends? I I mean, who were these people? Did he ever even meet them? >> Have they ever been arrested? I don't know. So, so you add in a social circle, you add in some psychiatric meds, you add in a financial incentive,
55:21 you usually get a love interest, you get some girl or someone. If you do this, you'll be my hero. You add some [ __ ] little bit of basic ass [ __ ] You put it all together and you go to 10,000 retards, you get your guy. And the guy in Butler, Pennsylvania, for example, literally got blasted the second he pulled the trigger. Shot at Trump. Shot at Trump. Bang. So, they were already aiming at him. They just didn't want him to talk. You know, the guy who killed JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, killed, he was killed in jail. Did you know that? [laughter] >> And the guy who killed him >> was killed in jail. So, he was killed in jail. And the guy in jail who killed him was killed in jail. The chain. I mean, so I'm not worried about some lone actor because if a lone actor kills me and it
56:08 makes the news and they say the lone actor was watching many videos that said Andrew Tate is misogynist, a government did it. This whole lone actor crap. No, it's all [ __ ] I know there are groups of powerful people who are very concerned with the amount of influence I have over the world. And what I've tried to do is measure the riskreward ratios. I've tried to sit down and think, okay, if I'm going to talk about certain subjects, how can I talk about them in a way where I can point people in the right direction so they can come to their own conclusions, but I don't cross the threshold where I need to die, but I can actually help the fight even though they call me a [ __ ] sellout. Or how I could talk about a subject and it pisses these people off, but it actually makes these other people happy with me and that gives me some top cover there, so I can go to this country and live my life in peace, for example.
56:56 It's complicated. Or I could shut up and I could spray Cologne and take 200 million and just [ __ ] Sydney Sweeney and just be a [ __ ] A-list. I could just do that and and stop getting called a sellout. If if if if the people I've helped don't soon show some appreciation and gratitude. What I'm going to do for the plot, Jack. For the plot is show them what a seller for the plot. I'm going to go do movies, take 500 m and just [ __ ] hang around with A-listers. I'm going to go Andrew T and I'm going to retweet and go, "Yep." Tried to help you [ __ ] idiots. Are you still poor? You still at home broke? It seems so. Cuz you weren't nice enough to me. I deserve gratitude for what I have done. I didn't have to do it. I was rich before I did it. I gave up my whole [ __ ] life. And people need to start being nice to me. And if they don't,
57:43 they're going to see what a sellout is. And I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to laugh the whole way cuz I'm not selling out in my heart. I'm just teaching them all a lesson. You know, >> it's funny about this interview is uh yesterday, I'm not going to say too much about my experiences doing all this, but I'm sure I've had some experiences that you've had along the way and what you've been doing. Uh, and I was like, should I just quit all this? [laughter] And then someone's like, Tate's in LA. And I was like, might as well have a conversation with him about it. old friends. [laughter] You know, I understand why the ruling elites treat us like they do. And it's truthfully because people are [ __ ] Like
58:30 an individual person is okay. We know individuals who are good, but on mass people [ __ ] suck, bro. And as you climb the ladder and get more and more attention from people, you see more and more how sucky they are. And then you get to a point where it's like, well, I'll just look after myself then. You
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