Dub Talk Presents: Summer at the Movies S7 OVA - The Dragon Dentist

0:00 hi there glad you can make it judging by your x-rays you came in none too soon you've got some nasty cavity Mushi that we will have to deal with now I must assure you that this procedure is completely safe but we do have to go over your insurance and see what you're covered for ah I see here that you're not covered for the use of strong language that might not be suitable for younger audiences so I will have to advise listener discretion this procedure will spoil all of the Dragon dentist and and I need you to understand that before we can continue you should have been keeping up with your daily maintenance and watching the anime and any others that might come up during the process and lastly the opinions expressed here are those of the individual participants and do not

0:47 reflect the dub Talk podcast as a whole I can recommend you for a second opinion if you would just sign here and here we'll get [Music] Kraken hello one and all and welcome to dub talk a special summer at the movies OVA episode because we had nothing else that we could be recording right now and we needed something to fill a time slot so it was myself Jackson and Megan hi coming in clutch in our time of need yes Megan before we continue I need you to uh reach out your hand and hold this for me okay okay and I repeat after me okay I wish I wish I wish I wish with all all

1:32 my heart with all my heart to fly with dragons to fly with dragons in a world of part in a world of part there we are now we are ready to talk about the dragon dentist uh there's a lot more guns than I remember from my childhood that's fine the dragons are still safe right yeah yeah I think so they recover from that pretty easily they've got great dental plan and that's what matters something that people in America don't have they they're going to leave an Immaculate corpse how did we get here this is an episode that I've been trying to get off the ground for some time now but there's never quite been the right moment or time slot available and then one just

2:17 fell into our laps here where we need to turn something around very quick and we have a nice short 90minut movie with like 10 cast members tops I think I have owned this for years on my shelf and just never sat down to watch it and then I was like all right well I've wanted to watch this might as well have a Time thank you for volunteering for this but so what's our backstory here some 10 years ago Attack on Titan head just broke out into the mainstream eyes were on Japan a music video hits the internet to set the stage a psychosexual dream sequence it was as if the guy from rent a girlfriend had uh gone through a bad breakup and stayed at home masturbating all day while on acid and

3:04 more cannibalism yeah so that went viral and people found out that this music video called me me me was part of a much bigger series of shorts from the Japan animator Expo uh series of shorts made by Studio Cara the avang Gillian guys that left and broke off from gyx with the aim of kind of fostering young talent and trying out new ideas and experimenting uh using car's resources and connections I do recommend checking them out but they are kind of all violent and horny like M me me was because they can be they don't have any TV standards to uh appeal to just like the first time you saw fairy tale Dragon cry in theaters you know sex and violence at Mock speed is one of these shorts which

3:50 should tell you everything you need to know hard to say how successful the like experiment actually was because like I was looking around at some of those shorts to see if any of them had actually gone on to do more and it was really only like people that were already established at car for example or the gridman short and this cuz the guy that was behind the original idea for this uh otu Mao went on to do it invaded so he wrote the script for that otherwise when it comes to the uh dub for this it was commissioned by NHK World which is a super unique set of circumstances where they wanted it dubbed for their Global broadcast after which they would live

4:37 stream it online from their website and this is how I watched it when the dub first came out in 2017 I remember how badly the bit rate [ __ ] the bed during some certain sequences but you know I still remember it and that's what matters oh man but how to how to explain this show CU it's kind of like a high concept fantasy about death about death and Purgatory a mix of 20th century technology and warfare and like restoration period Japan kind of setting we'll see what the uh summary on the website gives us yeah uh the story takes place in Dragon country nonoko is a newly appointed dentist and her mission is to protect the dragon the guardian of

5:25 the country from tooth cavity bacteria one day amid increasingly Fierce battles with the neighboring country Nono finds on the dragon's tooth an unconscious boy soldier from the enemy country his name is Bell and he has been resurrected from inside the tooth by the dragon a supernatural phenomenon that Legend says occurs before a major disaster as Nono and Bell go through a series of fierce battles they eventually learn to accept their fate this fantasy Adventure created on an unprecedentedly epic scale will keep yours thrilled and enraptured sounds very uh very news copy yeah well that's sets us up for how we got here shall we just get right into it so we can oh yeah absolutely as dou was done by uh salami

6:12 Studios uh over in California I'm sorry did you say salami yeah salami uh they're the guys that also did um cyberpunk Edge Runners oh okay I know this was released by Sentai film marks but they were not who NHK commissioned for the dub yeah they've done uh honey and clover booster Rank and z Genesis monster okay these kind of shows they also share a lot of um talent and what's the word brain power and I think this is cuz the studio layer broke off with uh V entertainment mhm which is what the director eventually was the co-founder of I'm just kind of laughing that their Studio name was salami you know a little treat yeah we can has a little treat yes a

6:57 little dub As a treat yes so this dub was directed by Renee vlier a very French name and he founded a very French company named V it was also directed by with his partner Nico gulo also in here we've got supposedly uncredited I found at least one listing for this and he's works with v to this day so I'm going to include Donald Roman Lopez on scripting as well as Julian Taylor on scripting as far as credentials Renee Vila was on all of those shows I mentioned before as either director or script adaptation Nico has been more of an assistant director uh on titles such as Castlevania the Netflix Castlevania

7:42 season 3 uh and some older stuff like mu Legends which is a video game and a live action show called Crimson kiss he's largely been a ADR engineer Donald Lopez was script adaptation on all of those shows I mentioned for salami before Julianne Taylor has provided script ad for Maggie Avenger zbad bungo stray dogs season 3 and several episodes of tower of God nice would you like to start us off with how you feel about the directing oh sure no I really lik the dub for this it was very very grounded despite the fantasy aspects of a lot of things there wasn't like a lot of over-the-top yelling big dramatic

8:28 speeches it felt like it was grounded in the reality that was presented which was at points it could be very anime but a lot of points it was a lot more somber than I was expecting from a show where a dental pick turned into a whip sword at one point which is the single greatest thing in the show they have to get the action in there somehow it's gyx and Cara they've got to get the action in there somehow and the action shots in this are really good this is probably some of the best animated horses I've ever seen in my life yeah speaking of uh experimenting and developing new tech like this is 10 years ago when their CGI horses look great yeah Studio mappa could have taken a horse lesson but I think the thing that really

9:13 excelled for me in the dub is that the writing felt really good and that the actors who play our two main characters got to have their moments to really nail their characters and I don't have a lot of complaints about this dub I think everybody sounded really good okay no I have one complaint sure and that is whoever decided that the clearly Japanese looking military people needed to have Irish accents yeah I was really trying to place those the accents on the yokal on the people on the ground they were very much like IND scripts yeah like Scottish or Irish they sounded like a Staten Island wedding combination of your drunk Irish and Italian

9:58 uncle in that it was never really consistent on what was they chose and I genuinely kind of question why it was done yeah I wonder if it was done because there's a lot of double casting in the incidental Parts M like there's certain actors that you hear four times I think yeah and I get it CU this isn't a very large or long production yeah like I believe this was done Union or at least the studio is a seg after a signator so could have very well just been uh session minimums yeah if you somehow managed to track this down to watch because it's no longer streaming and I don't know how exensive the Blu-rays are now like you can sit in it afternoon and watchable for this yeah surprised me that this wasn't available anymore we got the Blu-rays cheat from

10:46 Sentai yeah thankfully I'm pretty sure that they are still fairly Dirt Cheap with Sentai cuz Sentai was always putting this on sale but it it was a it was a fun time like I still really I really enjoyed the main two characters performances I think they were absolutely outstanding yeah and that's it was a nice surprise for me because I believe that this was the first time IID heard either of their acting back in 2017 so they were new actors to me at the time given this big uh chance with some lead rules to sink their teeth into there's a lot of great uh turns of phrase in the writing I do think some of the so they weren't going to ever hide the Japanese parts of this it's very impossible and they have direct Japanese influence cuz

11:32 they have the Japanese company commissioning them directly but I did think some of the Japanese ended up a bit uneven with like consistent pronunciation on some of the names like the the name of the dragon itself is a long complicated string of Japanese for for an actor to say yeah they did try to keep the honorifics all in English so there's a lot of senior and Mis and Big Sis which that's a thing to taste right yeah so it's it's fine it's whatever uh Mushi is a proper noun that comes up a lot in this we've both seen mushishi yes so we're totally familiar with that and that's not a problem yeah mushishi is a uh very fondly loved series I think for

12:18 a a couple of us on the show on the podcast yeah and it gives the the monsters in the show this proper otherworldly feel yeah a that's like with this du just a couple of little like this must have been turned around pretty fast and there was some decision making that ended up in the final product oh yeah yeah wasting no time let's move on to our characters we've only got like eight we can blast through all these like right in a row very quickly so for our Dragon dentist we have the peanut gallery of shuzo Kane arisugawa and satu yaru uh who are played by Keith Silverstein Celeste Henderson and Chris

13:07 Smith respectively our uh more prominent uh dragon dentists that are getting some Meats to do are Shiana and Senior godo who are played by Laura post and Taylor Henry respectively our ostensible villain and big bad for this is uh Bronco Blanco yeah the unkillable blanco until the end salvator to Bronco played by Kirk Thorton uh and our two leads are bell and nonoko played by Xander Mobis and zany win double X Squad yeah look look at them getting paired up like that uh Q silverene we know for charol in the mar

13:52 Gundam dubs many a Shonen Jump villain he sooka uh he plays Obama in Mr osasu Obama and uh Yami obviously Celeste Henderson was in Scarlet Nexus she plays Hara Fraser but she's also in Fire Emblem as hilden Hilda Valentine gonre oh okay Hilda Hilda Hilda Hilda shout out to our buddy Josh he knows what's up yeah uh Taylor Henry of course is a lot of other Fire Emblem characters and heroes especially Rudolph zil Hawkeye Vian Nam he was in brand new out animal as gelano megal boxes

14:38 fujimaki the kind of my kristo and the kind of my kristo great old actor KK Kirk thoron was eigor in Persona gaban in Digimon Shir Fujimoto in Blue Exorcist guile Don patch and B B gaban and um sheru gimoto both died for your sins God damn it remember the true reason for the season Chris Smith was uh spandam in one piece Kiton in Gan Logan kite in Hunter Hunter haru's dad in Persona 5 just you know a real cream of the crop there so many uh great

15:25 individuals L post Asiana is everyone's favorite mom world's best mom Ragu kiru God damn it kasami Yoshi zawa in Persona 5 AKO Shima in mnium matress and uh Cynthia in the great Pretender right now the other persona five characters isander Mobis as the protagonist and uh zany win as Haru I I think this was a qued around the same time if you're a joker X Haru shipper this is the dub for you zany obviously also played anohana M nazana from brand new animal as well B1 he story uh the platelets and sells at work and Xander Movis was uh P5 protagonist Darby the younger in JoJo's

16:11 and uh Toto in jits kaisen everyone's favorite bro oh i' I've just finished season two uh finally and that was a very fun sequence I'm not a huge jjk fan so uh the last thing I watch Xander mois in uh he was shown as but hole you know I don't need context you know what you kids can Google it on your own so yeah I don't have really much to say about the first three set of characters uh though Keith's sky is very much like the young hot shot dude and he's the first one to die imagine that whoops Daisy oopsies and I genuinely like that's how you figure out the deal with the dragon dentist cuz they are

16:56 kind of a little bit weird yeah we've got this uh what you this as weird Purgatory stuff yeah weird Purgatory [ __ ] I love like media with specifically Japanese media that like talks about death and like the different ways they see people like reincarnating and like dying and like what they leave behind I find that stuff infinitely fascinating so my favorite Parts about this movie were all the stuff to deal with that in plus of the war [ __ ] I liked all the weird Purgatory crap we are have one mind on this also enjoy the weird death stuff yeah there there's some stuff in there and and the only way I can describe it as in the last two weeks if I had a nickel for every time I watched

17:41 a really awkward make out sequence I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice again they don't have to show us on TV so they can get a little wacky with it yeah they didn't show The Mummy on the mummy to on TV and and that [ __ ] did not need to make out with mummified emot but they did it anyway I that was like the worst part about watching the mummy too was just that sequence was just like why are you doing that worse than the CGI Rock okay that's on another level of [ __ ] that's special that's forgivable we enjoy that the CGI rock can be laughed at and enjoyed watching a woman make out with emot while he's falling apart is no bueno even for the monster [ __ ] I hate sand it's coarse and gets everywhere and now

18:27 it's in my mouth I'm glad that it's only in her mouth and not other places bring a towel is what we're saying yeah yeah I'm going to hell um but yeah I I like K Kei guy he's got uh yeah bit of a hot shot head on his shoulders like short on patience with the other younger kids with Belle specifically yeah it is interesting that once the the big threat shows up and he knows he's about to die his whole demeanor changes he's just like okay we're doing this it's it's time he's like oh so this is how I die H what a rush this is what means to be alive he

19:15 starts acting like a uh thrill junky he's uh YOLO in a little too close to the Sun well you do only get to do that once yeah so he's he's a lot of fun and then who are the other two that we're talking about who are like kind of the more minor yeah of the other Dragon dentist we have the old guy who's got the crab Hammer Staffing thing he's really only only there because he's goes like lucky guy towards the beginning yeah and then he gets like kicked in the leg he's some smarty pants kid it's him and celeste's character that are kind of just a peanut gallery like the uh kind is a little bit interesting in that she's just kind of this archetype that's the disaffected teenager of the group that's just a little bit older

20:02 so she's all skeptical and ug to you can hear like the audible eye rolls in her voice yeah she is a the precursor to Hilda she gets some odd lines like uh worst trouble ever are showing about the like speed that this du was produced with yeah some things some lines that could have used in our take overall fine I liked your design a lot too yeah the design is great and sheo has the greatest thing ever the whip swword yeah it's like the Fon and Emblem three OES the falion is um Awakening right I I assume it's called the Falon in every game no it's um it's the sword of the Creator that's what it is in uh three houses sword of the Creator it's the falion the corn Sword and the sword of

20:47 the Creator I refuse to call the fates one anything but the corn sword cuz it looks like a corn cob yeah so she gets the coolest weapon is what we're saying yeah you know whip swords yeah no the those three are just kind of the peanut gallery and then one of them dies and that's uh furthers the story it's very cool yeah that's where we learned about the whole thing to which I love the way that the dragon dentists come to be and that they have to because apparently in this world people can be reborn from the Dragon's Teeth and when they die they go through the Dragon's Teeth like purgatory and to become a dragon dentist is to go into the teeth and face your own death and come out because you you were like oh well okay and you didn't fight to change your fate

21:33 I have accepted that I'm going to die one day and this is how it's going to happen yeah and it's very like reaching Nirvana it's a very like Buddhist uh attitude towards letting go of Earthly desires yeah cuz the the dentists live a very it feels like very like buddh Shinto life where they're they purify their body before they clean they go out and clean their Temple there's like a big Shrine that they keep the wisdom to of the dragon in which prevents them from being killed by outside forces if they die it is through what the dragon de deems them to they mention how the dragon can't come in contact with the Earth yeah uh and if it does the tooth explodes and then it um it just becomes a smaller tooth and

22:18 then they just you know plug it back in the whole like you know you know like normal Dentistry [ __ ] and you know then giant like demon plaque comes out and tries to kill you yeah it was given even the dragon of big old tooth egg it is the dragon's one point of weakness that enemies can try to exploit and that the dentists care for it's a little vague on what the actual contract is but the dragon has a contract with the humans of a certain nation and the dentists are tasked with taking care of the dragon and honoring that contract and the one way that the dragon can be hurt is through the stress and accumulation of human emotion as it passes through its teeth and gives it

23:06 cavities you know normal [ __ ] High concept weird old uh weird Purgatory [ __ ] yeah it's I genuinely love I love media like this and God I wish that like somebody would have like picked us up like breadman and made this like a full series too CU I would have watched the [ __ ] out of it yeah I don't know if it has a a huge leg to stand on on this idea but like 90 minutes feels like a good amount yeah there there is a definit definitely a lot that's left vague on purpose or just left hanging yeah like uh we can get into the next guy which is Bronco he's like up on all of the Dragon L [ __ ] and he's trying to tear it all down yeah he's got some weird like people say that he might be

23:52 blessed by the dragon yeah cuz he he just doesn't die he is undying he is Invincible they mostly demonstrate this by you try to shoot him and you're you suddenly have Stormtrooper aim yeah you cannot possibly hit him he is just this being of like ultimate malice and kurk plays him as like very dry and very matter of fact about everything and how he just does not care about anything other than the the thing in front of him he's playing it like a pro just o what you got there is that a dragon too why don't you hand that over to me it's real good and like you're not going to shoot if you shoot the gun it's going to

24:38 explode oh the the part where he actually uh Cuts Bell down the first time where he's just like trying not to scream is cold as ice and then Xander's just his muffled screams as they are actually just slitting his throat chilling stuff it's real good oh yeah the fact that he is just willing to leave people behind because they're not either bowing to him or he believes them to be weak and then I I genuinely love his come up into in the end yeah no uh no respect for the dragon or any of this sacred crap he guns down monks on sacred ground MH is the kind of character that we're dealing with and he seems like this unkillable

25:23 Terminator but they've what's happened in the course of the climax is a giant cavity Mushi has EXP exploded from the dragon its tendrils are reaching out everywhere it's going down to the battlefield below where war is in progress uh and it is saying no ceasefire now put your guns down or you're getting beheaded and I'm just going to snap up all your uh little heads and Bell is able to concoct a situation where H Bronco is pointing a gun at him and killed him yeah fires the shot and the cavity dragon's like oop spot smells there y I'll take your head

26:09 too so when the when the second episode was called Massacre I assumed it was going to be the future that nanako saw for herself towards the end of episode one where she dies at the hands of a a soldier around her age who has killed her killed all the dentists and killed the Dragon I did not expect uh skibby dooo your head is now glue and everybody was playing the French Revolution it would be it would be horrifying is if it weren't like a little bit comedic like if they weren't playing the popping sound effect as each of the heads goes and and let the bodies hit the floor and Bell is like wait everybody

26:58 who's not fighting is alive oh oh so he figures it out and I I think the thing that also really sells me on Kurt's performance is when he kills the guy who's been helping him the whole time yeah loyalty we don't have any of that here [ __ ] that [ __ ] and speaking of older gentlemen uh I really liked um Taylor as Master Toto as Mr Toto no not Mr Toto wasn't his name goo goo right he was very matter of fact and laidback and the only times you really saw him get angry is when Shiana you know starts doing her evil [ __ ] but she's she's kind of he's the first person who's like all right this kid's a

27:45 dentist now and yeah he has a very what will be will be attitude towards things it's like I'm a dragon dentist I'm going to do my dragon dentist duties this kid he came out of the tooth he's a dragon dentist now so he's with us he may have been an enemy soldier during his previous life but that's over now he's one of us mhm yeah just a great classic voice he feels very much like a giant Cosmic hippie a cosmic hippie and kind of a death cult yeah it's like in the back story he sends like a dozen guys into the teeth including nonoko and she's the only one that makes it out and she's like huh well that's neat uh you get to join us now oh the other guys in there fought back against a destiny guess they weren't cut up for

28:31 it is interesting that like he has no disrespect or malice towards the guys that fought against fate uh and didn't come back out of the teeth they just weren't cut out for that job and they maybe shouldn't have gone in but they were quote unquote the brave ones yes they heard hey you can do this and this is a test but you might die but if you make it out welcome to the business and I think it's so good that it contrasts against Laura post as Shabana mhm who carries a such a different Viewpoint and a different such an anger to her they both survived a tragedy 12 years ago and came to completely different conclusions so in a way for goo it was so this is what fate looks like they

29:17 would have both have gone through the same test to see their own deaths and what goo took from it was and and the performance that is given is very a I accept the Fate that I have but it doesn't mean I cannot enjoy the life that is in front of me where Laura post has to put on this act until she snaps and shows because she wants the one thing that the dragon can do and that's to bring someone back to life even if it is by force and one of my favorite sequences even though it includes the awful gross make out tongue stuff um you can tell this is the thing where Mimi me came came from Y is her going into the tooth

30:05 and to the picture of Mr T Modo yeah Mr takoto who she was in love with and engaged to and uh her realizing that she can't bring him back is what causes the giant Mushi do you know start loing heads off even though that even though that scene doesn't have a lot of talking you can hear it in her like reaction times yeah I really do love that where the uh photograph is Frozen in time and she's desperately trying to get him to come back out her acting through the uh mouth noises and even back then Laura post was killing it as morally ambiguous older sister parental figures if evil why hot never mind that she's a half bug now

30:53 if evil why hot I mean as you as a vtuber person should know was the resident monster [ __ ] yes we we are agreement on this we are we are coming together in in hands shaking our hands over the fact that there are a lot of people out there who would want to get a titty [ __ ] from a cockroach woman you're hiding that tooth in your mouth this whole time yeah and you probably touched it with your tongue yeah that Line's been sticking in my head for since I've seen this show let's be real matara con exists mhm there's a market for this yeah she has uh jiggly kiten yeah so people would you know shit's shit's fine it's good everyone's going to be okay

31:41 people can find morly ambiguous Dental cavities hot she she got the she got the head crab experience just I'm sorry every time I think I can't I can't say anything like head crabs because all I think about is it is time to face my destiny halflife full life consequences you are head crab officer I'm sorry every year my friend does a terrible fanfiction dramatic reading panel hi Liza I know you probably won't watch this I might send this to you now uh in which she reads that and gets people to dramatically act it out on stage and it is some of the funniest [ __ ] you'll ever see in your life um but

32:28 Laura post is great and I like that even when she's being evil she's still nice to Nano in a sense yeah she no more dentist went through my mind the same way no more mutants does she doesn't hold ill will towards the the people that she actually her friends and family that are fellow dentists in this she just can't accept that their Fates are on a track and are predetermined and she needs to fight against it and the only way that she can think to do that is is destroy the dragon then there'll be no more Dragon dentist win win and nobody else will have to die Still's on uh make your big sis proud and uh I won't give up I will bring him back yes is how she flies off

33:14 into the night on this and even the movie agrees she's a horrible bug monster but she's beautiful as she flies away do you watch um have you ever watched Tom Fox stream before I watched some of the stuff that you've shared of Tom Fox so back when scarlet and violet were uh were kind of the the Pokemon game no not SC short Shield they were trying to shiny hunt famosa you know another [ __ ] bug um and I think it was him and his friend Jeremy who goes by dually noted gaming and they made up this character who was in love with famosa and just called him Billy bug [ __ ] and I don't know why Billy bug

34:01 [ __ ] popped into my brain right now about her f um there was also a really good moment uh early on before any of the uh betrayal stuff went down with Laura where she's helping Belle through the his first real conflict of uh you got to decide to live you got to decide that you want this you didn't ask for this and it made me think of a recent episode with Team fourstar commentaries where where talk is going life is funny life is comedy you didn't exist now you do you've got anxiety and you had no say in the matter and that's hilarious I don't think you use Tik Tok as much as like a couple of us do but there but um one of the popular sounds right now is I think

34:47 like an old boond do clip it's like God wants me to kill myself that's why he's [ __ ] with me and like that's kind of the thing that popped in my head in response it God gives his H silliest bells to the strongest clowns yeah that's we're called people with IBS oh so that brings us to our leads doesn't it yeah Bell and Nano I absolutely love them I think they're the two best performances the movie yeah quite quite easily quite handily I would agree they both get yeah as you mentioned earlier a moment to shine which is really just my catnip you give a actor a like extended internal monologue and just let them go and I eat

35:33 that [ __ ] up I love it so much mhm like with Nano that's where the original Short was coming from was her being chosen as a dragon dentist ah yeah and yeah it is really fascinating her uh perspective on coming back out of that I like oh so this young Soldier is the person that's going to kill me and she has a conversation with them it's like oh you're you're kind of attractive aren't you I'm glad I get to be K or I get to die at your hands and he's like I'm glad I get to be the one to kill you and he actually does go on to say some kind of cruel things about like I'm going to kill you and I'm going to kill all your friends and I'm going to kill that Dragon nothing personal This Is War though and she just like oh okay yeah it's a very like uh

36:20 non-judgmental not not moralistic view on conflict and war is like this is a thing that we're doing to each other it's not personal you versus me it's we both have our own reasons for being here and both of our Fates have led us here your time to die and she just accepts it and and her monologue comes to her telling her origin story to Belle yeah she's trying to comfort him after H Sho dies yeah and how this happens to every Dragon dentist yeah and she's like I was just an a made at an end and everybody else is doing it and then I heard I could eat all the rice I wanted and I I just did it because I wanted that I do love that she has a very simple motivation which is just I'm going to

37:06 eat good food every day and I don't care if I have to die to live because that's what brings me joy this is the thing that gives me purpose and I like that she is very simple she's not stupid she's just simple and has a big heart because for her I guess it is a very kind of Buddhist thing where she doesn't really have a lot of worldly possessions she just wants to eat rice she doesn't have anything that she's coveting and even in the end when Belle dies she doesn't really seem to mourn him yeah she's not in the ending she's not even aware uh that he's gone yet yeah he she's looking for him and it ends kind of on that and

37:51 I think the the other moment that really gets me is the one time that they do fight with each other which is about she always will fight him on when he's like I'm not a dentist he's like no but you are and I I kind of have my own theories on what Belle represents but zany's performance is so I think that that mixture of what makes her best is that zany for a while was known for playing a lot of these very soft Meek soft spoken characters but at the same time she has the ability to do such like high energy in older more mature sounding characters I still stand by the dragon another thing with Dragons the dragon Pilots being one of my favorite performance of

38:36 hers and I like how her performance clashes against Xander's Bell who is a lot more emotional he has a lot more trauma based on the fact that you know he dies twice in a sense the first time is very traumatic and the second time he's very much accepting that this is his fate and what he does to the dragon and z Ender kind of gets to go all over the place and one of my favorite kind of vins in the series is when she says that his hair looks like golden rice in the like Setting Sun and he's like huh and it's kind of that very young teenage romance thing but it's between two people who have very different views on life and I know

39:22 you're probably going to talk more about xanders in a monologue than I am yeah now there there was a good like that that in context was like just Xander mumbling about whatever dumb [ __ ] like do you care that the uh inke Keepers think that we're a couple that kind of thing and she's just letting him go off and go off and then he mentions what did you say about my hair before and that's what gets her to respond back mhm uh it's interesting and he makes like a little note of hold on rice fields in the rain isn't that how you described what your uh coming Brink would be what your eventual death would be mhm so it's connected back to this beautiful scene or a scene that she thinks is beautiful which is her her eventual death it's the same hair color as the person that's eventually going to kill

40:08 her and yeah she just connects back to that in the in the present and has no ill will towards any of this she's enthralled by it oh 100% And before Xander's big monologue he also has this one where he's facing down KK's character and Kirk's like don't you know you're a coward and he I think it's in internally he goes yeah I've already accepted that yeah he he doesn't need to shoot to win this win what he wants yeah pretty much um you want to go ahead because I know this is you when you DM me yeah I wanted to make somebody watch this for the last five minutes PR pretty well uh I've suggested this every summer at the movies and it

40:54 has been basically entirely on the strength of the last five minutes and xanders uh dying speech it's just a thing of beauty he's describing what his body's going through that his chest is filling with blood and he goes back to his last near-death experience which was alluded to a little bit because he makes an off-hand comment of I know how to ride a horse yeah but as a young child he is riding a horse through the garden none of his servants are watching him he rides it through a pond and just as he's getting through the deepest part the horse kicks him off his trusted companion through thick and thin kicks him off as easily as it was swatting a

41:40 fly and he starts drowning in the water his lung his lungs filling with water he describes watching the horse swim to shore uh it's this beautiful thing that has just uh condemned him to death it's a beautiful like he describes eventually a servant does find him he doesn't even remember his face or his name anymore his sister never let Him Live down that moment through the show he he finds motivation to be a dragon dentist to help guide Souls through the teeth as he had come out of the teeth and he's like I would like to lessen the burden on the dragon somehow in any way that I can but he knows that I'm going to cause the dragon

42:25 pain with my emotions as I die I'm going to pass through as a cavity Mushi these are going to be the things that happen he thinks back to Nono in his last moments was like will she laugh if she hears me through the Dragon's Teeth will she take notice or will she ignore it and go on with her day and probably one of the weirdest like and sweetest moments in the show is when I think of you my chest fills up with something other than blood yeah that's an incredibly romantic sentiment also a little bit weird we we take that with this show yeah probably an all time timer for Xander but like I was saying it is cinet for me I will eat it up every time ma exactly

43:15 what I want Mau drinking her poison um delicious yeah I I absolutely adored that scene and my thing was I I think it is hate saying this phrase open to interpretation as to what the who the horse was was it the dragon or was it nanaco because Nano was nanaco as fickle as that and for me and then after that whole thing you see the boy that would have killed nanako sitting up in the field and yeah emerging from the Carnage yeah so is it was Belle reborn to save nanaco as much as nanaco saved him where he altered her fate in he took the death for her but in

44:01 a sense he needed to meet nanako to accept that death is a part of life and that it is not inherently malicious it is something that will happen to you and even if it is painful and awful and you do not believe that it is time to go that you are going to have to go through the dragon's teeth and your death will cause someone pain but there are going to be people who either hear you and remember you fondly or will not care at all and there is no inherent evil to that man this was really good it's it's asking some big deep questions not providing a lot of answers but uh but asking them ah just some

44:48 great things to chew on with your big dragon teeth as far as how he starts uh in the first episode as well he's like I really do like that first interaction as well of you have to decide you have to will you live or will you die you've got two choices in front of you you've got food in this rice bowl or you've got this knife to kill yourself again with and he does choose to live and fight on is just overcome with emotion in that moment let all of his trauma fall out he is at his lowest he's been betrayed by his men murdered captured by the enemy now and taken hostage he feels like by the dragon dentist and then yeah he's he spends the rest of the story fighting back against fate a lot of the time or choosing to

45:35 live until he chooses to give his life what more is there to say about this DB uh final thoughts that it's it's it's not Flawless and it's very good but there are some mildly questionable things in it yeah I it's a beautifully quick uh 90 minutes that uh is exploring some interesting ideas I think accomplishing the original goals set out explore some ideas get some weird thoughts out there let's make this cool looking Dragon CG model yeah test out those horses yeah let's have a horse chase a plane like the end of Toy Story 2 we can do that no one can stop us yeah

46:22 I uh hearty recommend for me yeah I would recommend this if if you can somehow get a hold of it I think the secondhand DVD is from are going to be the option now yeah cuz I didn't see it on their site yeah it's not on hiev anymore I think it was on crunch roll at some point but not not in dub yeah uh otherwise uh yeah we're the dub Talk podcast we're going to get out of here shortly uh you can follow us on Twitter blue sky I'm G to say all the social media and then you'll tell me that we don't have an Instagram or a Tik Tok I I don't know I'm not gonna I I Bur bring a bird watch us on YouTube watch us on anywhere that fine podcast are holds we've got the RS feed it will work

47:09 with any old dab you've got coming up shortly because this is summer at the movies OVA is summer at the movies proper so please look forward to that in the coming weeks yes we have some other people to thank to right our patreons of course which I have not even looked at or pulled up uh do you mind me reading them off for you yeah go for it uh cool we have our $5 patreons Marissa lenty Michelle Travis and my parents thanks Mom and Dad for the cash I promise we're not using it for drugs and our $10 patreons Anthony Brown Carly Lal Crimson ainda kimoa soup and otaku Anthony uh and where can people find you Megan uh you can find me on Twitter at

47:54 queenera 2 I have blue sky I think under the same name as well I'm just really lazy about updating it so I'm Jackson ncla Tiger on Twitter is probably going to be the best spot for me I'm uh hanging out on Discord mostly uh yeah I will throw you a vtuber recommendation since the last time I've been on here which was uh Ren Penrose is the person I've been watching most lately got real big on shorts uh explaining all that there is to do about uh being a vtuber and answering all sorts of questions and she's also a uh asexual Prince which is very cool yeah I uh I'm not a big dvber person but I do watch a lot of uh Tom Fox uh so you should always uh go check

48:39 him out he's a fun variety streamer sometimes he's in the flesh tuber uh sometimes he's in the vtuber Wizard form uh and he is the first vtuber I bought vtuber first job I bought his uh plushy from makeship so I'm very excited he is not the first YouTuber I bought um a for I bought um one of uh blue jay's uh Blue Jays if you've never seen uh blue jay before he is a very fun historical um YouTuber who probably made one of my favorite YouTube videos of all time about the uh worst Russian Navy this is how it starts I will say this so if you ever want to see the best um if you ever want

49:25 to see the best plushy announcement video of all time Blue Jays is like one of the [ __ ] funniest things you'll ever see but yeah no thank you for making me watch this Jackson thank you for uh jumping AB board the the dragon with me yes I am very F my cat has just jumped out of her sleeping hole like right now as we finish yeah let's uh climb aboard our Dragon friends and I don't know the rest of the lyrics Dragon Tales Dragon Tales something something Dragon Tales oh on a Magic Carpet Ride wee goodbye everybody good night [Music]