Dub Talk Presents: Summer at the Movies S9 Finale (Part 1) - Digimon the Movie

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0:49 of Dub Talk, a show where a bunch of nerds get together and talk about the latest and greatest in English dubs and voice over. Uh, today is part one of our I think our first ever two-parter. >> All right. So, I got the uh divorce lawyer on hand. Uh, we're here to talk about Angela Anaconda, right? [Laughter] >> Uh, yeah. Yeah. the ruiner of marriages. >> Wait, what are you telling me? They couldn't get it for this disc. I've paid good money for this lawyer.

1:35 >> Now, what are we going to have him do? >> Ah, awkward silence. All right. I don't remember Morgan and Morgan. Yeah. Just go just go before the people. Okay. See, bye guys. Bye. Bye. That's a joke if you live in America or mostly Florida. Though granted, the one time Were you there the one time with us where I saw the Morgan and Morgan ad in Boston and completely began to lose my [ __ ] >> I think I was there. >> I was like, "This fucker's following me." >> Uh, so, as previously mentioned, this is part one of our two-part finale for this

2:21 season of Summer at the Movies. Um, for this a bunch of us are getting together into groups and talking about Digimon movies. >> And us two being of creaking knees and and '9s children are here to talk about that one time they decided to crush three movies together into one. >> That's right. We are talking about the original OG Digimon the movie today. a a movie made of three movies uh held together by duct tape uh Fatboy Slim and uh and um Smashmouth.

3:06 >> Look, say what you want. >> The soundtrack for this movie is bitching. >> Oh, yeah. No, like it is somebody at Fox Kids was into SCA music. Like >> they were into >> go ahead. You first. >> Somebody at Fox Kids was both into Scott and otherwise cooking >> with what? We don't know. Probably gas and maybe a little bit of weed. >> Um, but nothing nothing screams how '9s this movie is. is watching a small child get latched onto the face by a pink monster

3:52 as funk show brother plays. >> Yep. >> Or with an intro by uh everyone's favorite paper cut nightmare Angela. >> Oh god. And just like the '9s screen saver rap opening, like I can't describe it as anything other than that. Um, it is is quite literally PNGs bouncing off each other with words coming up. Like >> also so I know for a fact that the actual poster for Digimon the movie um a lot of those art assets they had to

4:39 make from scratch and the guy who did like the art for um I think it was Becket magazines did it. >> That explains so goddamn much. And I think they use those same assets for the uh the opening credits. >> See, my favorite thing about this about this this movie poster is that it it just does not give you the correct scale of character to screen time in this movie. >> Yep. >> Like, let's just be real. Joe and Mimi just don't exist in this film. >> No, they don't. Sora barely exists.

5:25 >> Like it is basically the Tai and Curry show. >> Why are there two terrier mod on this poster? >> Because >> where is this is [ __ ] gateon eraser? >> Why does >> Why are there two terrier bonds? The only way I can describe this for audio only listeners is like somebody made a bootleg Pokemon. Like >> yeah, >> first of all, one Ki Lmon is not even K's partner. Second of all, there's just Why does it look like that? Like >> it looks like it's about to say a slur.

6:13 It looks like somebody has used this thing to like sell elillicit drugs. >> Like >> that's not even what it looks like. >> What is it? Yeah. Like like for for visual listeners, which is really funny because Lmon is my favorite Digimon. Like Lmon is my is my personal favorite Digimon of all time. Like I absolutely love And there is a white version of it. It just does not look like that. Like that thing barely barely looks like [ __ ] Terriermon. Like come on. They [ __ ] whitewashed my boy. >> Like Terriermon looks like he's about to say uh meow

7:01 to a frightened James Marsden. >> Holy [ __ ] >> That is the ugly Sonic of Digimon art. Holy [ __ ] [Music] Oh my god. You're right. Oh my Oh my god. This is like yesterday where I um as of the time of recording it's August. So, I started watch we do a thing called recommend or die between each other and I have the Lion Guard which for anybody who doesn't understand um it is a kid show about Simba's son Keon uh and stuff. And I had this horrible realization upon finishing the first

7:48 episode that if you think about it, Simba and Naruto have the same [ __ ] character arc, including going from like being a rebellious [ __ ] of a teenager who whose dad dies to becoming the dad that he never should have been to try to overcompensate for a shitty childhood and just makes his kids life like kids lives harder. But the question is, does does Scar show up as a good guy and just everybody accepts it and doesn't ask questions? >> Well, no, cuz Scar got eaten alive, unlike Orochi Maru. >> Okay. Yeah, Scar got eaten alive, kids. I guess like I I guess like the the

8:36 version of that they have is just in the cast where they somehow could not get Cam Clark to come back to play Simba, but for some reason they could get Andy Dick to come back as his character. >> What? >> Did you not know Andy Dick was in the Lion King franchise? >> Yeah, but all things considered, I figured Disney would have skipped that phone call. >> No, apparently Andy Dick can come back. But we're getting off track. Yeah, but then what is uh what is a Dub Talk episode without a segue? That being said, yeah, we probably should like tell you what this movie is about. >> Oh, yeah, that's right. What What are these three movies homunculi into one about? >> So, as described, uh when the original Digidestin were

9:23 little, they witness a fight between two Digimon in their world. Years later, they destroyed an evil Digimon on the internet. accidentally created by an American boy named Willis. Now Willis and the second generation of Digidescent must defeat what was not really destroyed before. Um, and spoiler alert, they Frankenstein three movies together. None of them have any coherent plot threads. They were all lashed onto this thing. just like we took two Mamaru Hasota movies and latched them onto this third one, which I don't think he did. >> No, he did not >> cuz I know he did the first two. >> Like,

10:08 so a little bit of history. Digimon Adventure was literally the first thing animated of the Digimon franchise. It was released as some sort of double feature with another thing and I can't remember what that other thing was. >> Uh yeah, cuz this was released in 99. Uh okay. So it was released like the day before the the the TV series started. I just can't see what it was attached to. >> Um >> and yeah, it basically ended up being a prologue. >> Yeah. Uh And our war game is basically Summer Wars. >> It's Yeah, it's the It's the Proto Summer Wars.

10:55 Okay, here's what it is. So, this was released as part of a spring uh 99 toe animation fair with Yu-Gi-Oh and uh Dr. Slump Ariel's surprise burn the movie. Wow, that is >> that is a deep cut, >> right? >> And then Yeah, like I I'm trying to see if our war game Yeah, cuz our war game's only like 40 minutes long. The first Digimon adventure is like 20 minutes long. Uh, and then I can't see what the third one's called. Hurricane Touchdown, >> which I >> And I think that's like 40 minutes.

11:40 >> Yeah. Not Adventure 2 beginning. Digimon films. Yeah. Hurricane Touchdown. Yeah. It's No, that one's like just over an hour. >> Okay. So, yeah, it's like a two-hour movie. >> Yeah. So, it's like they they basically just Frankenstein these all together because like Yeah. And then there's there are more dubbed Digimon movies. They just haven't been released on Blu-ray yet. >> Yep. >> And I don't think Joshua Seth came back for them. >> I think they had to get like Brian Bock to play Tai for like the one that was left over. >> Yeah, cuz there's a Hurricane touchdown.

12:26 Then there's uh Revenge of Diaboron because you know that comes back. Um, >> then I think after that it's like >> the individual >> spin-off season movies. >> Yeah. Uh, also it was Jason Speak who came back as Tai who came in as Tai. >> Okay. >> Yeah, cuz then there's uh the Tamers. Tamers has two movies. Uh, and then Frontier has one movie >> and then I don't give a [ __ ] about anything after that. >> Yep. As you should. Jet would Jet would Jet would annihilate us for not liking Ghost game, but I'm kind of waiting for Tolli to eventually release that dub from wherever the [ __ ] they're holding it.

13:11 >> Same. >> We know it's out there, Tolli. >> Give us a good, come on. We know you got it. >> Tollway. You You can see that you can simulate your anime when it's not called Dragon Ball. For the love of God, let us have a beat prank tub, please. >> It's free real estate. These three uh these three films were Frankenstein and Digimon the movie. Um and in order to get this done, they had to employ the direction and script writing of one Jeff Nemoy and Bob Buckolds. Um, they are both well known

13:58 for their various Fox Kids dubs and animated projects. I'm going to keep things like largely Lucy Goosey on this episode because like there's not a lot of recurring characters between the three movies and a lot of these guy a lot of the actors are going to be hard to introduce previous roles for. So, we're just going to roll with it. >> Yeah. >> Um, but yeah, how do you feel about the uh direction and script writing of Digimon the movie? >> So, I've always been a fan of the localization of the original Digimon dubs. um they more so than a lot of their predecessors were willing to

14:44 actually like tow the line between SMP and keeping um keeping kind of the original spirit of the show. Um there was no like, you know, we're cousins, we're going to make one character look more like he's a main character because ew, girls can't like action shows. Um and that type of stuff. So, I've I've always genuinely kind of liked the Digimon dubs, and this was a nostalgic punch to the face. Um, >> yep. >> There are also lines that I am shocked made it into a children's movie. Um, there just whatever the [ __ ] is going on with Tai's mom for a majority of this film.

15:29 Oh. Oh, this absolute gem from the first part of the film. Did you see that? No, I was sleeping. But you're driving. >> Yeah. >> Like >> also with the second one, um the phone operator. >> Yeah. Stop calling me. Stop calling me. It's busy. Um, also just like there are just I got also like the the like I I can't even say it's like the absolute gall of Sabond [ __ ] um advertising their other property like the absolute balls on them. I got a

16:17 pink Power Ranger. Um, just like, oh, also the just defeating Diablo with the power of a me Ryan movie, You got mail. Like, this movie is so goddamn 90s it hurts. Like, it is physically painful. Like, uh, I think one of my other favorite lines is, uh, well, I only had two beans for my three bean salad anyway. I have one I have like a couple of gripes with the geography of this movie too, by the way. But I'll get there when we talk about those characters. But like for the most part, this this holds up surprisingly well. Um, do I I haven't gotten to watch the uncut

17:03 version of this with uh the new dubs, so I can't >> I've seen two of them. I'm going to assume they're probably a lot more faithful to the actual scripts and so to the movies. Uh given how, you know, they don't have to Frankenstein hold themselves to prior other movies. And like I'll give them credit there that they did at least dialoguewise make it feel like these three films were one movie. I I can't imagine having to get this to localize and just like like could you imagine today if like Crunchyroll said, "Hey, we got these One Piece movies and we're just going to cut them all into one film." Um

17:51 like this would never happen today. And I can only imagine that every localizer would want to set the uh kill everybody in the room and then themselves over that. So, I do applaud the direct the writing team for it. Uh, directionwise, like, yeah. No, I've always, again, like I said, I've always enjoyed the Digimon dubs. They are a product of their time, but they are a pretty good product of their time, and they are very much I I I'm I'm sorry. I I had to tab over to find the line that I was talking about. And just above it is just a GIF of the blonde chick from Angela Anaconda bouncing on a trampoline and a ballerina suit. And like I can't stop looking at it.

18:38 >> Bless like I I can't stop. It's just hypnotic. >> Yeah. And I I largely have to agree with you that the Digimon seasons one and two dub like it holds up even today. Um it is one of the few kids shows let alone anime that was allowed to reference like actual character death and like heavy topics. >> Oh yeah. Wizard. [ __ ] Wizardmon, man. >> Okay, so like I said, I managed to watch two of the uh the standalone Digimon

19:23 movies on the Disco Tech set dubbed. Um I do have to say that while Lenty put out a better product overall, the original OG Digimon the movie is the better experience. it. There is nothing like watching this. >> Like, and this is no offense whatsoever to Lenty, the Sound Cadence production staff. Like I said, the dubs for the individual Digimon movies are very good. But this is just something you cannot recreate. >> It is very much a thing I don't think

20:09 anybody would be able to create. let alone not just because like the landscape of how anime is traded in in America especially has changed. Um I don't think fan bases would allow this to happen. People would be like furious, you know. Yeah. Even though it's a lot of fun watching the, you know, watching this cobbled together mess of a movie that somehow still kind of works. >> Yeah. I don't think I don't think this is the kind of thing general fandom would allow to happen ever again. Mm-m. >> Um, like the script writing is punchy

20:54 and energetic and while it doesn't work the greatest, it does at least try to bridge the three movies together. >> Mhm. >> And honestly, Cass is great and the direction like everybody knows what they're doing basically. like there's really really no complaints here. So, as I mentioned in the um in the intro, like I really don't have this structured in any general way. Um we'll probably just break down each of the individual films, talk about performances we liked, actors we liked,

21:41 and just kind of take it from there. So, honestly, I think a good place to start would be with um >> with Kari, played by Laura Joe Miller, uh just because she acts as sort of the narrator for the three and I think is probably the only recurring character between the three other than like Willis and mention. >> Yeah, Willis, the character written for these films. >> Yeah. or he was probably only written for Hurricane Touchdown and maybe Diabor the the our war game, but >> he was not in our war game at all. >> Okay, so they just shoved him in there to connect the movies

22:27 >> basically. >> Okay. >> He's not in our war game at all. And the Diaboron virus that infects um Cocoon >> Mhm. >> that's not in Hurricane Touchdown. Something made him evil. >> I If I recall correctly, Pokemon was just kind of messed up to begin with. >> Oh, okay. I see. >> Yeah. As a narrator, um Curry kind of works. >> Mhm. >> Um there's a lot of weird stuff like the mentioning of Willis and passing and just like he doesn't show up. So they have to talk about him all the

23:13 time and hype him up until he finally does >> and then Willis just kind of is there. >> I mean I've always Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> Oh no, go ahead. >> No, you first. >> Like I got to say Laura Joe Miller's standout is probably the first movie. Um, one because she gets the most to do there and two like um, baby Ki and um, >> slightly less baby Tai >> and Coramon have some really good interactions. I like Okay, one of the things I really like is when uh it's like before Coramon that it's baby form and it's shooting the bubbles and they just do the Digimon

23:59 like the English Digimon. >> Oh, with the >> It's super cute. >> Yeah, I've always liked Laura Laura J Miller as as Kyrie. Um and it was for the longest time like the only thing I think a majority of us knew her as. And then uh something else hopped along if you know what I'm saying. Um >> yeah. And cuz she she disappeared into um into like western cartoons for the longest time until you know Beast Stars happened. >> Yeah. And then she she came back. Um but I definitely like I agree she definitely succeeds the most in uh Digimon Adventure the first one. Um,

24:44 probably one of my favorite lines is um when she's uh she's on the back of the giant Aaman in her koala onesie and uh she's like a horsey and they're going around the town and she's like um usually my mom just sticks sticks money in there, but this works too. and she's trying to like pick up the cans as much as she can only to uh see a giant angry Aguman almost blow up a bus and just I know my mom says they run late but you shouldn't destroy them. [Laughter] And I mean on that note also, you know, like Joshua Seth's Tai, >> I think he's pushing his range a little

25:31 bit as baby Tai, but you know, it works. >> Yeah. >> Um, obviously his movie design is, you know, our war game, >> right? But he also gets some pretty good banger lines in uh in um the Digimon Adventure. Just I love how they're like trying to hide these people live in Japan for a little bit >> in at least Digimon Adventure and they just give up by the time it's in our war game cuz they're like, "Man, we're going to be like make all the kids jealous for Easter with their giant egg." >> Yeah. And I'm like, "Okay, Ty, you're you're Japanese, honey."

26:17 >> Big props to Brian Sadal, Michael Soric, and Bob Papenbrook as the um as Big Agaman and the various stages of him. >> Just Yeah, a lot of monster noises. These guys don't get to talk a lot. I think maybe Coron talks. >> Yeah, Corroan basically gets all the all the lines. I think Aguman gets like a line or two. >> Yeah, it I just Coron's biggest battle is against the family cat which somehow managed to survive all the way through her board game and I'm assuming is still alive in Adventure 2.

27:02 >> Yeah, >> I I believe so. Yeah, it's um >> yeah, four different people play uh the the giant the the coralon, >> but uh >> and then that's apparently David Lo is the parrotmon. >> Yes, that god. Ty's line about that. I would hate to see the chicken that would crack out of that egg. >> Yeah. >> Whoa. Parrot be upon you. Uh yeah, I mean ultimately there's really not much to talk about in terms of Digimon Adventure other than like the kids get some fun lines. Um the other

27:51 kids get to show up and have like a line or two, which I have to say >> I love Michael Lindsay's performance as Joe. Yes, >> but like >> him as baby Joe is so awkward. >> It is literally just teenage. It's like the slightly older Joe's voice. It's It's not even changing. >> Like he didn't even pitch it pitch it up a bit for it. And it's I I kind of had a chuckle >> revisiting this movie when he talked. To be fair, I'm pretty sure Joe was born a fully grown man. Um,

28:37 you know, >> granted Joe is like one of the best characters in the show when you uh when you watch it growing up. >> Born in a suit with a bachelor's degree. >> Oh boy. H. So, that was a that was about five minutes worth of talking about Digimon Adventure. Let's move on to our war game, which is probably where we're going to spend like most of this episode. >> It it takes up a majority of the film. >> Uh, mostly because it is I don't know how how much of Adventure 2 had been airing by the time this had come out in America. Um, >> it had just barely started. I think it

29:23 had gotten to the point where Ramon was introduced, but that's about it. >> Yeah. Otherwise, they would have just cut Rajmon out of this movie. >> Yep. >> But, uh, our war game is really good. Like, it it I need to watch the standalone version of it, like as God intended to see how much of it really is Proto Summer Wars. Um, but just Joshua Seth steals the entire film. >> Yes. like he is so hammy in this between and granted Tai is kind of exasperated the a majority of the film and it is mostly him and Izzy who are the focal two characters. >> Yep.

30:08 Which Oh my god. Mona Marshall gets to eat in this movie. >> That she do. Like Izzy gets so many great oneliners here. >> Just it's just just is he just not realizing that um >> that >> Tai's mom is a bad cook. >> Yes. And very specifically that Tai's mom is one of those bad cooks who um cooks nothing but health food. And like she's like, "Do you you want your fried tof to tofu sticks?" >> And you're just like, "God, no. No, no,

30:56 mom. God, God, why? Mother, >> run." Izzy, run. >> I think at one point he he like eats like onion an onion smoothie, >> something like that. Onion juice. Onion smoothie. >> Yeah. It it's just >> and I >> go ahead. >> I just love the fact that Izzy's biggest battle in this entire film is not with Diaboron. It's with his diarrhea. >> His diarrhea and uh everybody hitting reply all.

31:42 >> Reply all is the devil. >> Reply all. Stop everybody. Izzy, Izzy, [ __ ] the Digimon are slowing down. Let me reply everybody to tell them to stop. It is not working. Like I love like did moto mono Marshall did get to come back and reprise in the uh the new films, right? >> Yeah. just about everybody who was who's around or reparized >> could reprised >> cuz like Mona Marshall like for anybody who who's like not aware who Mona Marshall is because I don't think she's done a ton of anime acting uh recently uh because she's too busy doing South Park.

32:29 >> Yep. And like she's she's also like fairly up there in age too if I'm understanding cuz she's been doing anime since 97. >> Um oh yeah she was she was a Uzumaki last year which is not much of a thing to say. Um >> I feel like she might have been around since like Rootech days but don't quote me on that. >> Probably because uh Okay. No. Yeah. She was doing um animated stuff like back in the since like back in '87 potentially with the Fraggle Rock animated series. >> Okay. >> But like just like going through some of her credits, I'm trying to find like some some stuff. I forgot she's in Blue

33:15 Exorcist as one of the uh main one of the guys part of the um >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. She's uh the little bald one. >> Yep. But uh if you really want her to uh her to rip your heart out, please go watch Wolf's Rain. >> Yeah. >> Oh, she's also the original Shiro Emia. Holy [ __ ] I love Mona Marshall so much. I love Mona Marshall. She's so good. Um just Izzy is like probably my all-time favorite performance from her, too. So, just getting to hear this again made me like so happy. And my my favorite part of her performance has always been her bouncing off of uh Jeff Nemoy as ter as Tentabon. >> Yes. >> Um

34:00 she is uh pretty much like those two are like the most perfectly paired cast members on the show in my opinion. Um >> like Jeff Nimoy is a quit machine. >> Yeah. like very much writer's privilege voicing the character sometimes. >> Yeah. >> Because like Tetamon just gets just gets so many good [ __ ] lines in this movie and just in general, but also gets absolutely bodied by Diaboron. >> I mean, they all do. So, >> yeah. But him and Padamon specifically get done dirty. very >> like

34:46 the tradition of beating up Padamon just it just exists in this film. It's great. Um, but the two of them are are just so good. It's just like I wish I would have wrote down more of their their one the oneliners between them. Um, also when just just I love when uh just Izzy goes to take a [ __ ] and Ty breaks the computer and his only reaction is, "What were you doing? Why did you hit it?" >> Great. And like and then Matt and TK are like, "What the [ __ ] guys?" >> Way to be a team player there, Ty. Just

35:32 Ty takes Ty Ty pulling the the old the old white dad strategy of just hitting the TV really hard. >> Yep. >> Um but like no like Moto Marshall has always been like the Izzy voice for me no matter what. Like I do know I believe Annie Yakto took over for them in uh the adventure the new adventure anime and like I like their performance a lot. Uh, but like Mona is just Izzy to me. Um, they they are just Izzy. Like they are the embodiment of Izzy, the character to me. And Izzy's kind of always been like the the character I ended up like realizing was like the one they hit really close to me because they were like one of the first adopted characters

36:18 in an like in any media I watched that like wasn't evil and didn't have evil parents. So, >> uh, >> yeah, that's >> like they really went in with that in the in the mainline series. >> That in the, uh, the episode where Izzy gives up his brain and goes to like space hell. >> Yeah. >> Where is Izzy's brain goes to space hell or some [ __ ] Digimon is such a weird show. Like, I I genuinely encourage you to watch it if you can. The original adventure. uh watch the original four series there. It it'll it's like 200ish episodes to watch all of it, but god is it worth it. >> Um though you don't really need to watch

37:03 them to understand this movie because frankly I don't think the movie understands what these three movies were. >> The movie doesn't understand itself. So you're good. >> Yeah. There we go. Um, >> and you know, since we mentioned Matt earlier, I've I got to give props to uh Michael Rice cuz you know, Matt shows up in the second half of the movie. >> Oh, yeah. >> Alongside TK. >> Yeah, they they just TK TK shows TK and Padamon show up and immediately get [ __ ] bodied. Um >> as is Padamon's want. >> Yes. Um but I I I genuinely love the the

37:51 scene where and this is props really to to um Joshua Seth getting how exasperated Tai is is when Tai calls their grandmother. You sell Ties? No. My name is Ty. I'm looking for Matt and TK. Oh, those are my grandson's names. Yes. Can I talk to them? Yeah. And she just hangs up on him. And then they're they're just and then um I think later on like uh Matt calls them back and you just hear, "Oh no, grandma fell asleep on TK." >> And >> also the old men in the barber shop. >> Yes.

38:36 and >> and especially when Matt disappears into the uh into the computer. Hey what >> uh just Michael writes his delivery of the the closest thing my grandmother owns to a computer is an egg timer. >> Like I can't tell you how many vocal stems originated from this movie when I was a child. How many of them belong to to to Tai's mother? >> Oh god. >> Cuz Tai's mom steals a lot of time from this. >> Just >> Yes. >> Just I don't know. >> God bless you, Dorothy Melindraas. >> Just when she's like they're busy

39:25 sipping the flower. How do I do you know if I'm done? I don't know. I've never done this before. I've never made a cake before. >> Lady, what the [ __ ] >> I've never made a cake with flour before. >> And then like this also hearkens back to the to the Digimon Adventure film where it's like, "Oh god, she burned them." Um, >> and then like I I also see on the list Michael, hey Jedi, thank you for showing up for 5 seconds to tell us that the internet's broken. >> Uh, your router's down, dude. >> Just Just >> you should probably go turn it off and turn it back on. >> My thing is this. Why does Izzy have a thing to get into a military satellite in his house?

40:12 >> Cuz he's Izzy. >> Yeah. You know what? Fair point. Um, you can also tell by the way that this movie takes place in the '9s by the advertisements and the things that happen in it. Um, one that the the thing decides to go Dear Borman decides to go to um New York City to eat all the data and he only [ __ ] with JFK. >> LaGuardia does not exist. >> Tried to go to Newark and he's just like, "Fuck it. You're already fucked." I I He He He just looked at '90s LaGuardia in Newark and said, "Absolutely not. I'm out of here. Goodbye." But then he decided to eat. >> You know what? You got your own pro. You know what? You got your own problems. >> I'm just going to go. >> I'm going over here. >> To which my guy My guy Daboron, I don't

40:57 think the MTA is doing much better either with the subway system. Like >> I can You think Izzy was fighting for his life with tire with IBS? Holy [ __ ] I I don't know what digital IBS looks like. I'm assuming it's what modern modern Twitter is. >> Also, do you want to know how this is a product of the '9s? >> Hit me cuz I want to see if you you and I are thinking the same thing. When you have a line read like he tried to talk to his ISP about Diaboron, >> but they offered to give him 50 hours of they offered to sign him up with 50 free hours of service. >> Yes. I was going to say the the way that

41:44 you know that this was uh in the '9s was that Northwestern Airlines is constantly advertised in this film. >> Yeah. Um, in the TWWA terminal was shown for uh JFK. >> Oh my god. >> Like that is how 90s this movie is. Um, I also described them defeating defeating Diaboron with the power of a mech Ryan movie. So like this >> or conversely defeating Diaboron with the power of AOL. >> You got mail. You've got mail. Just the dialup noise. Do you think digital IBS comes with the AOL dialup noise? >> Yes.

42:29 >> Like you're just [ __ ] and fighting for your life and all of a sudden you just hear the That's a car alarm. Same difference. If I ever get a car that I can give a custom car alarm to, I'm doing the AOL dialup noise. And whenever it honks, it goes, "You've got mail." Um, but yeah, like also Wendy Lee is cute as TK. Um, TK gets about like five lines. So does every other Digi Dustin that isn't Ty, Matt, or Izzy. >> Um, Mimi Mimi goes to Hawaii, which also, God bless you, Felic Stampler, for the delivery of wish you were here.

43:15 >> Oh, Mimi's Mimi's um voicemail. Yes. >> Just leave a short message. Meet Ty. It's me. And it just stops. Uh oh yeah. Um also Joe trying to get on the subway. Him and the dude. Look, he looks at me and I look at him and then like he's trying to do a test. Uh excuse me. >> Oh. Um, and then Sora's having girl issues. What's a few brain drops between? Also, apparently one of the things revealed in this movie

44:00 is Ty thinking that he's still mad at her for the time she he threw up in her hat and she didn't tell her she put it on. Ty, what the [ __ ] No wonder she left you for Matt. >> That's Listen, >> you never live that down. >> Can I talk about my one beef with this movie as we move into talking about >> Golden Touchdown Madden 64? [Music] >> Um, first of all, Japan, you cannot walk from New York City to Colorado as a minor. >> Yeah, how is he supposed to be doing that? Like it's assumed that he hitchhikes the entire way there, but

44:46 that is [ __ ] Um, also Amtrak being about as reliable as Amtrak ever is, >> which is kind of >> just Cory recovered quick on that. Also, just Cory getting one of those like, ah [ __ ] it's the dark ocean again moments. That thing that happens once in Digimon Adventure 2 and never comes back. Um, >> which feels like it was supposed to be a big plot point that they just kind of >> we dropped it in service of a man barcode giving kids the NFT virus. >> Oh, it's what he did. He put nonfgeable

45:31 tokens in children in an attempt to get to the Digi World. Or that would >> Oh, they're not getting that money back. >> He cry. You figured out how to crypto mine live children. >> My apes. >> Um, >> but like also this is where >> boy that's boy that's a metaphor. >> Uh, also this is where Doug Holtz takes over as older TK. And I think he always does a good job. Which makes me get to talk about my favorite thing that just happened in Digimon Adventure 2, which is uh TK just absolutely giving Ken the uh the >> the five finger discount. >> Not even he didn't give him the five finger discount. He just punched him.

46:18 He >> he gave him he gave him the the Mike Tyson >> just just like I I I need to describe the scene for anybody who's never seen Adventure 2. Not only that, TK like licks blood off his face first. >> Yeah, that's even in the dub version. >> Yeah. Like it is such a ballerass scene that comes out of nowhere and it just never gets mentioned again in the entire series. even when Ken becomes good that like TK just g cold clocked his ass. Um, and then uh Cocoon cold clocks that train's ass. >> Yeah. >> And gives them the Amtrak Yeet. Um,

47:05 and and I will say I think this is kind of getting also to like the one performance in in the movie I find to be kind of hard to listen to, and that is unfortunately Bob Glowberman is Willis. Um, I I >> it's a very strange one. >> Yeah, it it Willis's character arc is also just genuinely just all over the place. He is both like a flirt and also like don't get close to me. Everybody I love dies. >> Pick a lane, buddy. which uh leads to this absolutely wonderful scene that we all learned was not edited between him and Brian Donovan as as Davis

47:51 where uh they go out in the woods like he goes out in the woods to get away from everybody and uh Davis follows him and he tells him the story of like what happened to to Cookon and Davis throws off his goggles and is just puts his head against the tree and just starts crying and he's like That's the the saddest thing I've ever heard. It didn't happen to you. No, but just get over it. Okay. Apparently was not edited. That is just how it happens because Davis is stupid. >> Davis curing depression with the power of stupidity. >> Just and and Brian Donov Donovan's a great Davis. Um >> he is. He plays Davis like

48:40 so so wild. Like he is just like eating every bit of scenery he can as Davis. Um which is really funny when they all get turned back into children because the virus inside Cocoon like turns back time and he gets this like gray thing. Davis, you've turned into a baby. Who are you calling a baby? Oh my god. and he's got like one tooth. And meanwhile, everyone else is like kind of like a cute looking kid and Davis is like the scrungly cat you picked off the sewer. Um, also a good time to mention um there's one other actor who kind of repeats through all three films and that's Paul St. Peter basically

49:25 playing like the villains. >> Mhm. cuz he um he's the Caraman line up through Diaboron and then he's also Cocoon in Hurricane Touchdown. Also, Mona Marshall is also Terriermon, and she would go on to play them in Tamers, where Terrier's a big character, >> which is awesome because Mona Marshall basically plays Terrier in Tamers like she played Terriermon in the movie. >> We'll always be friends. And Terrier is Digimon design. Um, >> yes, >> I absolutely love that. Um,

50:14 she makes Terriermon so cute. Um, and just like it's cute, but it's not like that high-pitched kind of like cutesy voice. I like that there's a little bit of grit on it. >> Like there's a little bit of a growl. >> Um, >> also uh Oh, go ahead. >> Especially because Terrier has a little bit of sass to him. Mhm. >> Like I think if she tried to do >> like just pure saccharine with Terriermon when he had to sort of have a little bit of a a rough edge to him. I don't think it would have worked. But this, yeah, it's a nice balance. And I do like I and that's like the one thing I'm going to

51:00 always praise the Digimon movie the Digimon dub about especially for Adventure and Adventure 2 is that no no two of the partner Digimon ever sound the same. >> Um >> even when they're played by the same actor they don't sound the same. >> Yeah. Like um I know even when uh that actor is also playing one of the human companions like he's Ken isn't in the movie but Derek Steven Prince who plays Vimon also plays Ken. They sound completely different from each other. Um, >> it took me a while to figure out that they were played by the same actor. >> Um, >> yeah, like really good job. I know. Um, I think it's Armadillan is played by the the late Robert Axelrod.

51:45 um who is absolutely phenomenal as uh that and Feliz als Fel Sampler who plays Mimi also plays Cody and I'm not going to lie I did get a little emotional hearing them talk about each other talk to each other because unfortunately uh neither are with us are no longer with us. >> Yeah. Um, as well as I believe the voice of Joe is also not with us. >> Michael, Michael. >> Um, I think he's the only one that's Oh, yeah. And then, uh, Steve, it's always really weird seeing Steven Bloom. Steve Bloom like with his full name in a credit, by the way.

52:31 >> Um, >> Yep. So like and then uh I know she doesn't get a tough ton of time. Uh also Tiffany Christian as um Yoli was pretty good. Um like it's it's hard to say like what is and isn't little good isn't good about this because it's a lot of fun. And also Golden Touchdown goes by really fast. >> Yeah. Oh, one other big props I have to give um Neil Kaplan as Hawkmon for just being a sassy little [ __ ] >> Yes, Hawkman has always been the sassy [ __ ] >> Like I would sit down for tea with

53:16 Hawkmon cuz he would have the tea. >> He [ __ ] would. Um, I'm really sad that like some of the other Digimon partners from uh some of the other from the first gen weren't there because like obviously Mimi is not there and Mimi is the I'm probably going to have Fighting Wars. Mimi is the best character in Digimon Adventure. [ __ ] f [ __ ] you fight me. Um, but I'm really sad that um, Anna Garando doesn't get to beat it for as um, Palmon nor Martin Klein's Goon who are really good. And we do get to hear Laura Sama be uh, the adorable Padamon and uh, Edie Mirram as Gatamon. Um, also

54:04 this is the one movie where you show that any somebody else besides Ty and Matt can mega digi fallon. >> Oh, which speaking of also Anjamon Dave Malow. >> Hell yeah, baby. >> Who's also who is also unfortunately no longer with us. >> Mhm. Rest in peace. But can we also talk about the fact that Anjaman and Anja Woman mega dig evolved to give Davis and Willis their golden Digi eggs and this is literally never brought up again.

54:54 >> But it's not through them. It's never explained how they have these. >> It's never explained how Padamon and Godamon are even able to dig evolve to their next form, let alone mega cuz this would have been the time when they were cut off from that. >> Yeah, cuz they were they would have Yeah, cuz she wouldn't have had her tail ring. >> Yep. She wouldn't have had her tail ring. Oh, yeah. You know what that is? basically the key to everything. Huh. >> Also be uh it would also it also doesn't explain that technically Angelon has two megapforms. >> Yeah, that's not brought up until the like end

55:40 movies. But yeah, >> and we don't really talk about how much that the Adventure Try movies are just a [ __ ] mess. Um yeah, cuz like she can either turn into Magnum uh Mang Dragnamon or she can turn into um she can turn into Oanimon. But yeah, literally none of this is brought up again. They do not Anjamon and Anraoman do not go into their mega form at all during O2 which could have helped by the way >> in a lot of different situations.

56:28 And the whole thing with the digi eggs is never explained ever. >> Like I love how much of a hot mess Hurricane Touchdown is. It is an absolute disaster of a a movie. >> God bless. >> And I think with that we can kind of get into a little bit on our final thoughts on the film, >> right? Uh this movie rules and is also it is also a mess, but it also [ __ ] rules. >> I largely agree with you on that. And also even beyond the license music that they

57:13 got, the soundtrack [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> Like the English language Digimon soundtrack [ __ ] >> It is absolutely awesome. The dub of this movie rules. Um, I have to give props to the uh >> um the the crew for putting together this behemoth of a movie. Um, I wish to know the process. I wish to know if any drugs were involved. But >> yeah, >> but for what we got, like this was peak90s children's cinema. Like >> it really was >> like this this in the Pokémon movies

57:58 were like peak90s foreign dubbed children's cinema. Like they were experiences you had to see. Like nothing on God's green earth will bring us back to the the late 90s early 2000s. Show up at this movie to get a rare MU card or show up at this because Angela Anaconda is going to be there. Um, like absolutely peak cinema. >> Yeah. And like you said, this was an experience >> to see it in It would be wonderful if somehow Tollway could get everything together to show this in theaters again.

58:43 I I would do it >> because it needs to be experience on the big screen. It needs to be >> so good. >> Like this was my VHS was orange. >> Yeah. And I I really have to give extensive extensive props to um Justin Seus and the team at Mediocd, Astroz um and honestly with the will for apparently getting the rights to the movie and forwarding them to Disco

59:32 after they got the three individual pieces of the movie. >> Hell yeah. >> Like just the amount of astronomical work it took to get the Digimon movie rema either remastered or upscaled into HD and put on that Blu-ray alongside its three component films. >> Mhm. Um, >> and also while we're not directly talking about it, huge props to Marissa Lenty and the crew at Sound Cadence for doing a redub. Huge props for Ben Diskin for helping to get the original cast back together for that dub.

1:00:21 >> Um, yeah, there's just a lot of people to thank for this somehow getting back into our hands. Um, this is a definitive childhood movie for myself, for Megan, and for probably a lot of you listening to this episode. >> Um, and if you want to check out the movie, >> I don't think it's streaming anywhere at the moment. >> I don't believe so. But >> but the Disco Tech release of this movie plus the three component films is still readily available. Um, it's probably like 2030 bucks if you want to pick it up. >> Um, >> and if you want to check out anything

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1:01:56 Lenty, um, which also, thank you very much for the redub of the Digimon movie. >> Thanks, Marissa. >> Um, Megan's mom and dad. >> Hi. >> And Michelle Travis. Uh, and at our $10 tier, we have to thank Anthony Brown, Carly Lesau, Julia W, Pika, Greg, and Shoulder. Um, thank you m very, very much guys for helping us do what we do. Um, and on the individual level, Megan, why don't you tell us where we can find you? Uh, you can find me on Blue Sky Queen. I'm doing [ __ ] posting and and [ __ ] Uh, I'm also playing a lot of uh Final

1:02:41 Fantasy 14 and probably more Donkey Kong Bonanza Bonanza when these uh Pokemon five star raids are done. Um, and where can we find you? Uh, so I am Patrick aka Roots of Justice. You can find me on the Blue Sky Roots of Justice where I re mainly retweet cute animal picks, talk general phantom. It's a good time. And at the end of these, I like to have a cool thing of the day. Um, where I hype up a cool thing today. And honestly, I just did a recording that's probably not going to be coming out until like September, October. So, I didn't feel

1:03:28 comfortable doing this then. But my cool thing of the day is just going to the movies in mid July to early August. Holy [ __ ] what a run. >> Yeah, I am um I I am actually going to the movies next Wednesday uh next Sunday as of this recording to go uh see a certain movie about a gun >> cuz Superman is spectacular. Fantastic 4 was a blast. And now we've got The Naked Gun, which is probably one of the greatest theatrical comedies in years. >> Like, >> I haven't seen it, but the one the moment from the trailer is like, "Take a seat." And Pam Anderson just drags a

1:04:14 chair out of the room. >> Like, this year is a legendary year for for cinema. >> Like, Go pay the 15 bucks for a ticket and go see something. Anything >> except for Tron Aries. [ __ ] that movie. >> Except Yeah, [ __ ] Tron Aries. >> But statistically speaking, you are in for a good time when you pay for a movie ticket. Mhm. >> All right. So, with that, I think we can call this episode a close.

1:05:02 >> Um, thank you everyone for joining us as Megan and I took a trip down memory lane. Um, >> hope you do hope you're doing well and otaku da >> have a good night and remember the power is yours. And Tai totally deserved to lose Sora for vomiting in her hat. >> And yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Bye. and click.