EVERY Dark Conspiracy About the Iran War

0:00 Earlier this week, the United States and Israel launched a massive coordinated military strike against Iran. Within hours, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Kummeni was dead. Thrron was burning and the internet exploded with theories about what was really going on. And some of these theories came from anonymous accounts. Some came from journalists. Some came from former members of Congress. And at least one of them came from a dude that claims he could bend spoons with his mind. Regardless, what you're about to hear are the 10 most talked about conspiracy theories surrounding the Iran War. We're going to lay each one out, all the evidence, or lack thereof, the connections, the claims, and really why people are talking about this conspiracy, and ultimately let you decide what you believe, and I'll weigh in with my opinion as well. Because in a world where Epcene files are dropping and psychics are taking credit for military

0:46 operations and ancient demon statues are burning in the streets of Iran, sometimes the truth is even crazier than fiction. So [music] sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. [music] What's up people, and welcome back to camp. My name is Mark Agdon, and thank you for joining me in my tent, where every single week we explore the most interesting fascinating and controversial stories from around the world from all time forever. Yes, that's what I do here in this tent. I try to figure out all the stuff that is going on. And uh oh boy, we've had quite the week. But before we jump in, I want to say thank you guys so much for making the show possible, uh, for clicking this episode, for commenting, for all that stuff because every time you do that, you keep the lights on here at the campsite. You keep the fire burning. And

1:32 also, you keep uh, you know, Christos, you know, making seven to eight figures a year. You know what I mean? He's extremely well paid. He's connected to the Epstein files. He's a committed globalist, but he's also a friend of mine. So, Christo, how are you? >> All those things are legendary. >> No, no, no, no. Christo, I'm not going to let you defend yourself now. All right. The damage is already done. We got to jump in. All right. As you guys know, earlier this week, there was military action that was uh you know, carried out in Iran. And full disclosure, uh we this is being recorded on Monday. So, as the fog of war continues to roll out, there are things that uh have might have changed in the time that this episode has dropped. Earlier this week, I dropped an episode with Chris Kappy, a military analyst and journalist and former US, you know, military member who basically broke down his perspective and kind of gave us the pros and cons from a technical level.

2:18 But today I wanted to break down the theories. Now if you know anything about me, you will know that I was raised by a conspiracy theorist. My entire life has been embroiled in the matters of the unknown. My mom is truly just like she's been on the conspiracy wave for a long time. So every time something broke out, she would always be like, "Think about what's really going on. Who really benefits? Where are the real players actually moving? And what is the symbolism underneath everything?" Now, some of the stuff is true. Some of the stuff is uh unsubstantiated, difficult to prove, and some of the stuff is just complete nonsense. And today, I want to go through all of the theories and break down really what's going on. So, I'll weigh in with my opinion, which again is just my opinion, and uh I'm curious to know what you guys think. Let's start with this one. This is uh the Epstein

3:05 distraction theory, okay? And it's not exactly what you think. So on February 24th, 2026, NPR published a report that the Department of Justice had withheld a portion of the Epstein file, specifically portions related to allegations against Donald Trump. 4 days later, American bombs are falling on Iran. Now, people are going to look at this timeline and say, "Hey, there's something weird going on here." Okay, Trump's name appears in the released Epstein files approximately like 38,000 times according to multiple analysts who comb through all the documents and that number started circulating on X within hours of the release and it caught fire. Actually, Kathy Griffin was one of the first public figures to actually start talking about this and wrote on Instagram that Trump's reaction to his name being mentioned 38,000 times in the

3:51 Epstein files, that means it's time to bomb Iran. which, you know, I mean, a funny joke, but unfortunately, uh, it seems like there there might be some some fire near the smoke. Now, I also think like the number of times that Trump's name was involved like started going down cuz certain files started getting removed. Uh, as a matter of fact, actor John Cusack called the strikes a wag the dog war. Basically meaning like divert attention from the, you know, Epstein stuff and, you know, help fulfill Netanyahu's wishes. Those were his words. Stephen King called for Trump's impeachment over these unauthorized strikes. Mandy Hassan, uh, the journalist and political pundit and former MSNBC host, said it plainly on a February 28th liveream. He said, "100% true that the Epstein that Epstein is a

4:36 factor in all this." So, it gets even more strange because messages from the Epstein files themselves, now circulating widely on social media, allegedly discuss Trump's psychological profile in detail. The assessment attributed to members of Epstein's inner circle uh basically say this. If Trump is ever quote cornered like a rat, he will start a global conflict. Specifically, he will bomb Iran to play the hero and rally public favor around a wartime president. And in his 8-minute video addressing the strikes posted on Truth Social in the early morning hours of February 28th, Trump did exactly what the prediction described. He played the hero, which should not be surprising for Trump, right? He loves playing the hero. He addressed the Iranian people directly and told them, "The hour of your freedom is at hand." And he said, "No president

5:24 was willing to do what I am willing to do tonight. Now you have a president who's going to give you what you want." He called the operation a noble mission and urged Iranians to seize control of your destiny. The language, the framing of himself as a liberator, a savior, the one president brave enough to, you know, to act and to get rid of this, you know, global threat mirrors kind of what people are suggesting happened in the Epstein emails that he is cornered. He's, you know, up against the wall and he's going to do something to basically rally support around himself. A post by journalist Air Katib shares images of these messages and they went viral on X. I mean over like I mean millions of views like 800,000 impressions. Uh a Reddit thread discussing these messages became widely upvoted on the conspiracy subreddits. And what makes the theory

6:10 unusual is that it has traction across this polit the political spectrum. I mean on the left it's framed as Trump like sacrificing Iranian lives and American lives in some way to save himself basically. And even on parts of like the MAGA right, including former representative Marjgery Taylor Green, it's framed as a betrayal of the America first agenda. Basically, uh, Green says on X, "We voted for America first and zero wars." And she called the bombing of a school which killed dozens heartbreaking and tragic and said, "This is not what we thought Maggot was supposed to be. Shame." So, the theory is pretty simple, right? the most powerful man in the world had uh you know 38,000 named reasons with the Epstein files and potentially millions more in what is suspected are files regarding Trump that have not been

6:57 released as reasons to basically change the subject. And according to those who knew him best, the people who allegedly had compromising material on him, which again is alleged, they knew exactly what he would do when cornered. And you know, the 4 days after NPR reported it, he did exactly that. Now, the likelihood of this m I don't know. I mean, it seems like it's very convenient. Okay, I'll I'll go with that. But, you know, whether the war was launched specifically to bear the story, maybe that shifted it like a month or two, maybe like 6 months, but in my mind, the circumstances that precipitated this conflict with Iran were always going to happen. That's that's just my personal opinion. I mean, whether it was Trump,

7:43 whether it was Kamla, I think it was going to happen no matter what. I mean, you know, Professor Professor Jen from Predictive History, he called this two years ago. He said there's absolutely going to be a a ground troop invasion. He actually said boots on the ground in Iran by 2027. Now, this happened a year earlier than his prediction. And maybe the Epstein situation kind of, you know, sped things up, but h I don't know. I'm I'm going to give this like a I'm going to give this to like a medium I'm going to give it to like a medium likelihood. Like I what like the fact that it happened like within this month I'll give that a high likelihood. Whether the fact that this happened at all I'm going to give that a low likelihood. So for that reason I think medium is I think medium is fair. What do you think? I think I think >> medium is actually high for these.

8:28 >> You think that's high? >> No I think the the level medium is high for a conspiracy. >> Oh okay. You think like medium would be like it's mostly true? >> Uh that it's more most likely true than not. >> I think the Epstein thing was it's just the fact that it's happening this week is helpful that like hey we have another thing. It's just the plane is getting flooded like you're just like just blasting information into the fray and it just kind of gets people worked up and not talking about that which is very nice. >> Sure. >> So I mean I think it's gonna happen inevit I think it's gonna happen no matter what. Like I think America has been talking about Iran having, you know, nuclear warheads and being about to have a nuclear a nuclear bomb, you know, in two weeks for the last 20 years. You know what I mean? Like all of our allies in the region want this. Like

9:14 there's there's a lot of precipitating factors. Whether or not it's justified or not, I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying it was inevitable and the timing maybe. Anyway, let's move on to another one. The petro dollar. Okay, this theory has nothing to do with Epstein. Okay, finally, a theory that doesn't involve him. It has nothing to do with psychics or stargates or any of that. We'll get to that later. All right, but this one is about money, specifically the most powerful currency on Earth and what happens when countries try to stop using it. So, a little bit of history. 1971, President Nixon took the United States off of the gold standard. Basically, all of our dollars that were printed were backed by physical gold that we had. It was tethered or you know pinned pegged rather to a specific actual rare you know a rare material and the dollar should have collapsed but it didn't

10:01 because 3 years later the Nixon administration cut a deal with Saudi Arabia. All Saudi oil would be sold exclusively in US dollars and the revenues would then be reinvested in US Treasury bonds and the deal was extended to the rest of OPEC. So any country on earth that wanted to buy oil has to buy it in American dollars. And so as a result, the dollar becomes America's greatest export. Our money is no longer backed by gold. It's backed by oil. And this petro dollar recycling system has financed, you know, American government spending and military operations and consumer debt basically for 50 years since like the inception of this, you know, petro dollar. So now what happens when a country tries to stop using this? So in 2000, Saddam Hussein switched

10:47 Iraqi oil sales from dollars to euros. Three years later, the United States invades Iraq. And one of the first things that America did after conquering Iraq was revert oil sales back to the US dollar. In 2009, Mumar Gaddafi proposed a goldback gold dinar for African energy trade. And two years later in 2011, NATO intervened. Gaddafi is killed and the gold dinar idea dies with him. Then Venezuela begins selling oil in Yen. And in early 2026, the United States conducts a military operation. And spoiler alert, the US government took control of the sale of oil. And Venezuelan oil is now sold in dollars and not in yen or other currencies. So Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, and now Iran.

11:32 Four countries trying to move off of this petro dollar within I mean what 26 years. Yeah. I mean that's uh that's that's a lot of smoke on that one. I'm going to be honest with you. So by 2026, Iran was selling virtually all of its oil outside of this dollar system. Approximately 90% of its exports went to China settled in yen through China's crossber interbank payment system. And this is a direct alternative to the US controlled swift network. Iran, Russia, and China had created what the Atlantic Council called an alternative market of sanctioned oil wherein payments are dominated or are denominated in Chinese currency. So basically because of all these US sanctions on Iran, they're now, you know, getting very close with Russia and

12:18 with China and exporting all their energy there and they're obviously not going to use US dollars. So Iran was part of this expanded bricks coalition which was uh you know basically building bricks pay and this is now a swift alternative scheduled for full launch in 2026. And the economist William Clark has argued that US belligerance towards the Iranian nuclear program is a cover for the deeper threat posed by Iranian oil, specifically Iran's effort to trade oil outside the dollar. So the bombs fell on February 28th, and then the dollar did exactly what this theory basically predicts. On March 2nd, the first trading day after the strikes, the US dollar index surged roughly 1% to a 5-week high. Bloomberg had the headline,

13:03 "Doll surges as traders brace for war impact." Oil spiked over 13% with Brent crude jumping past $82 a barrel. Gold surged past $5,400 an ounce and Barclays estimated the dollar could strengthen about half a percent to 1% for every 10% increase in oil. Oil had just jumped 13%. So, here's what makes this theory a little bit more compelling. The United States is a net crude oil exporter. Japan, Europe, India, and China are massive importers. So when oil spikes, these countries need more dollars to pay for the same amount of oil. You can understand that, right? Supply demand. Mechanically increasing demand for the US dollar. As the website Investing Live

13:49 noted, if oil prices surge from $70 to $100, massive oil importers such as Japan and India will have to pay over 40% more dollars just to secure the same amount of oil barrels. I mean, there you go. I mean, there's another analysis that basically gives it very bluntly. Given the nature of this shock, it will be the dollar that benefits the most. What's up, people? We're going to take a break really quick cuz I want to tell you about a sponsor we have that I'm so stoked about. Yes, it's Chubbies. If you never heard of Chubbies, I've been wearing these since legit like late high school. Yeah, I'm so stoked. I started this podcast cuz I wanted to deep dive on crazy stuff in history and just, you know, random wormholes that I got into on the internet and now I'm working with a brand that I've literally worn for 10

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16:08 back to the show. America starts this war, oil spikes, the world scrambles to get dollars in order to buy oil, and as a result, the dollar strengthens. Again, with this petro dollar, if every single barrel of oil is going to be bought in dollars, the more that oil spikes, the dollar is going to spike. So, there you have it. I mean, the the dollar strengthens and the higher oil prices benefit American shale producers, many of whom, the theory notes are major GOP donors. Now, this conspiracy gets even deeper. A theory on Binance Square frames the war as a strategy to address America's $10 trillion debt refinancing challenge. Basically, creating global panic through wars would effectively drive investors to US bonds, which would

16:54 lower yields and allow the government to refinance debt at cheaper rates. So, what does that mean? When the world panics, investors flee to treasuries, and these treasury bonds are going to be a little bit more stable. Bond prices rise, yields will fall, and the government is able to refinance trillions at a lower interest rate. Barons reported that bonds did behave as a safe haven after these strikes the first time in years. Now the theory argues that war isn't just about punishing Iran. It's about sending a message to every BRICS nation considering a permanent exit from the dollar system. So if bricks pay launches, again bricks pay, this is like the competitor with Swift and this basically will allow it so that countries can settle their oil trading

17:39 without ever touching a dollar. If that happens, the petro dollar will be affected. It could even just collapse completely. And with that, the mechanism that has financed American power and hegemony since 1974 would be affected. And so the message is very clear that hey, if you try to mess with this, this is what happens. Now, how likely is this? How how legit is this theory? All right, let's go through some of the stuff. Just a recap. Okay, the market data is pretty real, right? The dollar surged, oil spiked, bonds were rallying, and uh the pattern of US military intervention following countries attempts to trade oil in non-dollar currencies is at least a very interesting coincidence. I'm going to give that one a high likelihood. Now, whether the war was launched to strengthen the dollar and punish the

18:24 ddollarization is that one I'm a little bit more medium on. I don't think it's purely that might just be like another sort of co-founding factor. But there is, I think, a very clear alignment with America's financial interests and its military targets. And uh if you try to mess with the US dollar, there's probably going to be some problems and uh some B2 bombers heading your way. That would be that would be I think a pretty safe bet. Now, is it done with the explicit purpose of trying to [sighs] of trying to, you know, boost the dollar in order to help the GOP donors? I don't I think that frames it as like too one-sided. I think ultimately the American war machine uh and just the corporations that basically run our entire country all are going to benefit, not all, but all the military

19:11 defense contractors and the oil manufacturers are going to benefit from these types of conflicts. So, they're funding both sides. Like, they don't really care. It's nonpartisan. You know what I mean? It's not red, it's not blue, it's black crude oil. That's what it's all about, dude. I mean, CIS, what do you think? You give this one a pretty high likelihood. What do you think? just the fact that it has to do with oil pretty high. >> Yeah, I think so. Right. But I'm not going to trust a Greek with economics. Anyway, uh there's another theory that uh this one is is is fun. Okay, this one is a little wild, so just bear with me here. Okay, this is a theory that gained traction after the 2003 Iraq war and is now being applied to Iran. That the real reason Western powers invade the Middle East has nothing to do with oil or nuclear weapons or even terrorism. You

19:56 want to know what it has to do with? I'm glad you asked. It's about controlling the longlost ancient technology known as interdimensional portals. Yes, that don't guys don't lose me. I'm telling you this is what people are saying on the internet. All right, so just hear out the theory before you mock me. Okay, basically there's something called the ziggurat of Okay, this is a just hold guys, let's get the theory out. Okay, there's people literally fighting a war in the Middle East to protect us from this portal and you guys are going to laugh about it. >> What's it called? >> It's called a ziggurat of >> sounds like a slur. >> Okay, don't. You're a little ziggurat. You know that? So, this is uh basically a 4,000-year-old Sumerian temple. Now, conspiracy theorists have claimed that

20:42 the US military's suspicious interest in protecting certain archaeological sites while letting others be looted suggest that they were searching for something specific. and the theory got enough traction to even be featured on the History Channel. Now, the same framework is just being applied to Iran. So, let's lay out the case. Iran is home to some of the oldest continuously inhabited sites on Earth. Its pre-Islamic history stretches back all the way to the Elomite civilization, contemporaries of the Sumerians. So, if ancient portals existed in Mesopotamia, Iran would have them, too. Now, proponents of this theory point to the suspicious targeting of sites near ancient ruins. They cite Iran's proximity to Iraq where according to the theory this portal was already secured in the 2003 invasion. Shout out to the boys. They connected the dots to these broader claims about elite

21:27 knowledge of ancient technology and ancient civilizations and like the real story of humanity. So the theory basically says why did every why does every major war of the 21st century seem to happen in the cradle of civilization where all the Abrahamic religions are started where humanity is said to have started at the very beginning. I mean probably not a Stargate I'll be honest. Uh this theory persists because it kind of offers like a unified explanation for Western military intervention and because the US military's uh interest in Middle Eastern archaeology still is like pretty unclear and not super talked about. like there's some sites that they care about, some sites that they don't. And this theory, I think, is just trying to wrap that all up. And they're basically like, why is there so much investment in the Middle East? And it's like, well, I don't know,

22:12 dude. Maybe they discovered the most precious energy source under the ground and every one of them has it and they didn't know about it until like the 30s. That would be my theory as to why the Middle East is being uh uh blasted into. But then people be like, "Oh, what about the Crusades?" Fair point. Okay. It also happens to be the uh genesis, no pun intended, of all the Abrahamic religions. So that's going to be a pretty important place also and people are going to fight over that of course. So I think that's probably why the Middle East is more of a hot button. It's like a rich history with a lot of, you know, civilization, all the religions and a bunch of oil. I mean, you got to hop it if you ask me. It's also like kind of dead center, like the middle of everything. It's like basically bordering Europe. You got China on the other side, you know, the

22:59 the Balkans. America's even far away. But I don't know. That's just I'm gonna give this one a low likelihood. What do you think, Christos? >> Ziggar's the only one I'm saying. I'm going out on a limb. 100%. >> 100%. You believe it? All right. Well, I guess we'll have to see. All right. Let's jump into another one. Okay. Iran burned the effigy of Ball. This is This one is crazy because it's kind of actually true. Can you pull up a video of this? I appreciate that. During Iran's uh February 2026 rallies commemorating the 1979 revolution, which is where the Ayatollah basically took over from uh Palavi and overthrew the sha and created the Islamic revolution that we see now in Iran. Something

23:44 strange happened across multiple cities in Thrron, Isvahan and other cities in Iran. demonstrators burned giant statues and the statues were like horned bulls and they were marked with like a star of David and like the number 666. And again, this is what's circulating on social media. I didn't go to Iran. I didn't see it. Now, the statues according to the demonstrators, according to what a caption I read on Tik Tok said, represented Ball. Now, if you don't know Ball, Ball is like an ancient deity of the Leavant that uh has appeared over and over and basically is like you could say a false god, Satan himself. Um, yeah, this is who uh this is who the the Israelites were worshiping when Moses came down from the temple, I'm pretty sure.

24:30 >> And also Ball is life. >> Also Ball is life. Great point. Ball knowledge. Look at this guy. Now, this was strange. And it doesn't seem like it has. According to social media reports, this is something that had never happened in these, you know, previous revolutionary anniversary rallies. Uh, we actually see a video of it here. Now, is it real? Is it AI? I don't know. I'm assuming it's real. I mean, it seems like most of these reports are pretty legit, but uh, yeah, you can see them actually burning the effigy. Here it goes. Lights it up. I mean, do we really need There we go. [snorts] I mean, pretty strange. It's like it's like a like an interesting symbol to have in the middle of a uh a giant anniversary for your your country. They

25:15 see like Fourth of July like we do fireworks. I don't think we would do like a like a burning effigy of like a an ancient Middle Eastern god. >> They're not Muslim. >> That's a good point. That is a good point. Yeah, I guess maybe this is their thing. I don't know. But even my Muslim friends, they're not really burning effiges that much. This seems like a specific type of uh I know it seems like a symbolic end times vibe to me. I mean the statues are pretty big. It's like this little like horned demon with uh you know figures covered in like these anti-western anti-Israel images and they were built in like from these combustible materials and at the peak of the rallies ga like crowds would gather together and they would chant things as they were burning these things up. But who is Ball? Why is this happening? Now

26:02 in the Hebrew Bible, Ball is a Canaanite deity specifically that is associated with fertility and storms and was a major rival to the God of Israel. The most famous conflict is between the prophet Elijah and the prophets of Bal at Mount Carmel. This shows up in First Kings where Elijah challenged 450 of Ball's priests to defeat him. And ball worship was also associated with child sacrifice. And the prophet Jeremiah condemned the practice explicitly. It literally says in the book of Jeremiah, they have built the high places of Bal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Bal. And in ancient Seemetic language, Ball literally just means like lord or master. Now ball also appears in the Quran. So in surah ass safhat in the story of the prophet Ilas

26:48 which was the Islamic name for Elijah Allah says do you call upon Bal and abandon the best of creators? The verse basically condemns the worship of Bal as idolatry and this is the same message that the Iranian demonstrators were broadcasting by burning the statue. Now, Iran International, a London-based Persian language news outlet, reported the coordinated burnings and videos started to spread rapidly on social media and apparently, you know, obviously conspiracy people were going crazy. A YouTube video titled Iranians burn satanic statue ball after Epstein file released framed the event as Iran sending a deliberate message to Western elites. And the theory was that Epstein Island wasn't just about trafficking. It was about occult practices and that the elites were visiting the island to

27:34 basically worship ball in secret. Now, another analyst basically described it as geopolitical theater combined with spiritual warfare, claiming that what you worship in secret we expose and we reject. Now, the theory basically connects ancient Canaanite religion where ball worship allegedly involved child sacrifice to modern elite trafficking networks. And it frames the burning not as political theater but as spiritual warfare. Iran is basically positioning itself as the enemy of the satanic western ruling class. So by burning ball, Iran and the Iranian people are saying, "We know who you worship. We know that you guys are Satan worshippers. That you worship the wrong god. You don't worship Allah. You worship Ball and we reject it and we will expose you." Now the timing coming amid like the Epstein stuff, you know, many conspiracies there see it as

28:20 deliberate like this u like a declaration. Now what is the likelihood of this one? What do I think? I mean, the statue burnings seem real, so I'm going to give that one not even conspiracy. That's just a thing that happened. Uh, they had no precedent at prior revolution or anniversary events, which makes them strange. And, uh, I mean, just the the symbolism and sort of like the visual of seeing like this giant Canaanite god getting burned is just sort of strange. It's like Game of Thrones almost. Now whether the Iranian government intended this effigy burning to be seen as uh you know like Epstein and like the corruption and like the trafficking and the western elites and I don't I actually don't think that I think ball is supposed to just represent

29:05 the wickedness and the satanic nature of uh you know the west of America of uh of Israel as an ally of America. I think that's probably what it means to the uh people at these specific events that were burning these things. I don't even know how connected the military was to it. I'm assuming that everything that happens over there the military is involved with or the government rather is involved with. So I assume that it was done kind of at the behest of the government. But again, I don't even have confirmation on that. I don't know if it was just like a couple rogue people that like build this effigy just to burn them. My assumption is that it's government. That's what I think. But I don't have confirmation. I think it's probably more about the symbolism of of America as the great Satan. And uh that's kind of what that's where I would put it. That's kind of what I think the theory is. And that they view Ball as like the adversary to Allah. And that's

29:52 what the symbolism is. That's my take that basically uh yeah, Ball is basically the the Shayan, the Elas, as they would say in Islam. All right, let's jump into another one. Okay, this is uh this one's a this one's a wild one. All right, so just bear with me here. This is basically a theory that Israel used psychic warfare and that there was a supernatural attack on Iran. I'm actually going to need your help with like trying to fact check this one, Christos. So, this guy Yuri Geller, he's a famous celebrity. Uh he was very popular back in the day for like his ability to like bend spoons on television. He also happens to be Israeli and he claims that he helped Israel's military strikes on Iran. Yes. In an interview with the Jerusalem Post published on July 16th, 2025, Yuri

30:38 Geller stated that he and a clandestine group of psychics used their abilities during Operation Rising Lion to assist Israel's attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. And he was not being metaphorical. All right. Now, it sounds crazy, but until you consider the fact that Geller technically has a history with intelligence agencies. Now, there are declassified documents that confirm that Geller was a subject of the CIA Stargate project that happened in the 1970s, which was a real program that spent like $20 million over the course of two decades researching psychic phenomena for military applications. And the CIA's own assessment, which is now public, stated that Geller presented his paranormal abilities in what they said was a convincing and unambiguous manner. Now, Geller isn't the only one that makes these supernatural claims.

31:24 Abdullah Ganji, a former editor of a newspaper linked to Iran's revolutionary guard, publicly claimed that Israel used occult and supernatural forces in the attacks. Now, this isn't fringe commentary. Okay, this appeared on Iranian state affiliate affiliated media and Iran's Supreme Leader himself had previously accused Western intelligence agencies of using gin entities for espionage. If you don't know what a jin is, it's basically like a like a spirit. Uh sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. They're mostly associated with like being bad. Uh you could say like maybe a demon, but not exactly that. Regardless, NSA documents that were declassified in 2011 mentioned the theoretical possibility of concentrating psychics to cause much matter to reverse direction, uh potentially affecting an

32:09 entire city. Now, Geller closed his Jerusalem Post interview by noting that a Houthi missile was heading for Tel Aviv and said, "I'm going to do something about the missile." All right. Um, this one is a this one's a tricky one. I mean, you you you see the article, right? I'll be honest. Um, okay, let's break down a couple pieces. Project Stargate, that was a real thing. Geller's participation, that's real. Whether psychic warfare played a role in the Iran strike, I'm going to say probably not. That's my professional opinion on this one. I uh I don't know. People look at Stargate and they're like, "Dude, $20 million to see if psychics." It's like, "Yeah, dude. It was $20 million over like two decades."

32:57 So, we're talking like a million dollars a year. And sure, that's a lot of money, but in the totality of the US military budget, that's like 0.00001%. And I view, in my personal opinion, things like remote viewing, Stargate, stuff like that. Is it possible? Sure. To me, I see it as like low cost, high impact. So, specifically in a time like the 70s, '8s where like we're kind of still rogue trying stuff out. MK Ultra, sure. Let's like just be a little crazy about it. I think that they were investing small amounts of money into things that had potentially massive returns. Yeah, let's spend a million dollars this year to see if we can use psychics to for war. And if it doesn't work, it's only a million dollars. Who cares? And if it does work, oh man,

33:43 that's a massive advantage. Even if it works a little bit, that's a massive advantage. And that's kind of the way I see these things. low cost, high impact. Um, as far as Yuri Geller's uh involvement, he says it happened. I mean, he would know better than I do, but with my own personal opinion, without ever having met the man, with all due respect, I'm going to say no. I'm going to say it's probably a mixture of like US intelligence, MSAD, and uh, you know, probably actual intelligence officers that are going around collecting intel, finding agents, compromising them, and taking out targets. That's just my take. So, I'm going to go low on this one. What do you think? >> Chai Chi seems to think we have it 35% right. >> Oh, really? Yeah. Wait, what does that mean? >> That's the accuracy score out of 100.

34:29 >> He gives it a 35%. >> Yeah. Basically, the biggest problem was NSA reversing matter claim. That's highly inaccurate. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, that one seems likely not true. >> Little bit of uh Iranian supernatural rhetoric. Not very accurate. Well, it seems like they're probably That's a good point actually. I think they're talking about that probably metaphorically. Like again, they're speaking to a predominantly Shia Muslim country that has enforced a very strong Muslim control over their society or a strong control over society using Islam. And so, of course, they're going to use symbolism as sort of like parts of speech that invoke the Quran or hadiths in order to communicate with their people. So, I don't view that as like, oh, literally. I view it as like metaphorically my opinion. >> Gotcha. And lastly, the Israeli psychic

35:16 warfare unit is just unsupported claims, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's I guess it's a little bit more euphemistic to describe what whatever Yuri Geller is talking about. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you know what time it is. It's time to level up. And Blue Chu just dropped something wild. Okay, Blue Chu's been rocking with us from the beginning. So, of course, we have to rock, pun intended, with them. All right. And what they've just done is changing the game. All right. This is next level gold metal energy. This is Blue Chew Gold. If you've never heard of it, this is the newest innovation from the number one chewable ED brand. All right, this isn't the little blue pill that your grandpa used. This is the 4 inone beast that is setting the gold standard for performance. We're talking two ingredients to keep the good times rolling, okay? Mixed with epomorphine and oxytocin that are going to turn up

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36:49 n. You can visit bluechw.com for more details and important safety information. And thank you so much to Blu for keeping the lights on and making this show possible. Now, let's get back to it. All right, another one. How about this? How about uh the dental implant tracker? You heard about this one? This is basically the idea that like you know the supreme leader of Iran is one of the most protected men on earth. He moved around constantly, rarely appeared in public and is surrounded by layers of security inside a bunker and knows full well like, oh, the totality of like the United States military plus Israel is trying to take me out plus Saudi Arabia. I mean, all these people want him gone. So, how do you get a guy like this? All right. Right. I mean, look at February 28th. All of a sudden, we dropped 30 bombs on his compound in Thyron in a daytime strike and like 12 hours later,

37:37 he's out. So, the Iranian state media confirmed his death on March 1st and uh 40 days of mourning have been declared in Iran. But how do they find him? How do you find where he's at? Now, there's, you know, the skeptic kind of contemporary take like, oh, the United States has intelligence operations and agents within the country and potentially within his close circle that are able to find his movements and able to basically tip off where he's going. They're able to find a uh what they call like a I forget exactly the term, but it's basically like a day of life report where like, okay, what does he do on an average day? Can we aggregate that data over many, many months to basically track where he's going to be on this specific day at this time? That's one theory. The other theory that's way more interesting that was circulated on Reddit and X is that they literally put tracking devices hidden in his dental

38:24 implants. Now, this theory sounds crazy, but there's actually some precedent. Okay, there are released documents from the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound that revealed that the al-Qaeda leader was deeply paranoid about exactly this thing. According to the documents in question, bin Laden suspected that an Iranian dentist had placed a tracking chip in his wife's tooth during a dental visit. He described the suspected device as about the length of a grain of wheat and the width of a fine piece of vermicelli. Now that's a interesting way to describe the size of a chip. Vermicelli. What even is vermicelli? >> It's a rice. >> All right. Of course you would know. You and your you and your pretentious 1% disposition, Christos. Gh. I'm sure you

39:10 eat caviar and vermicelli all the time. >> Sorry. It's actually a very thin long noodle. >> Oh, thank goodness. Oh, I got your ass. Oh, that makes me feel amazing. Anyway, Bin Laden's paranoia, as it turns out, is not crazy, right? Like RFID chips small enough to fit into dental work have existed for years. And I'm sure intelligence agencies have thought about this exact idea. The question is whether they've actually deployed them. Now, this theory obviously gained a ton of life after Kani's death. And uh basically, if the strikes required real-time location data on targets who rarely appear in public, some form of close proximity tracking technology would be necessary. So, you either need an an agent or some type of target within his inner circle that's able to

39:55 give information on a regular basis or is able to have a tracking device on him. maybe a tracking device on his clothing. Uh maybe having some type of espionage technology within his bunker or a dental implant. This is an ideal vector if you're able to pull it off. But the issue is that it requires invasive procedures and uh would it would be difficult to get a chip in someone's mouth. But the theory is that maybe there was a highranking orthodontist or a dentist that was basically doing dental work on the top ranking uh military personnel and he was basically acquired as an asset by either the CIA or MSAD and was then you know given the technology and was placing these chips inside of the top brass. And

40:41 this is just kind of what the theory is. It circulated on Twitter and uh this is ultimately where it's at. The United States and Israel both have neither confirmed nor denied that this technology was used to identify where Kumi was. Now, in my opinion, this one is is tough, but it's actually interesting because either way, I think it's kind of an intelligence operation, my opinion. So, one way is that yes, CIA, MSAD, some intelligence uh organization was using this uh technology to track Manny or his highranking uh commanders. I think that that's a little tricky because one, why would they release this information now, right? Like if they're still utilizing it, like there's got to be other people. Maybe they took them all out, but if it was this successful,

41:27 like why not use it in China? Why not go over and use it in Russia? You can't use it in England. They don't do dental work there. So like, you have to use it in the places you could still use it. You know what I mean? Now, my thinking with this though, and based off my conversation with Chris Cappy, who kind of said the same thing, it seems like these sort of theories kind of percolate around these types of events where like they kind of float these rumors and arrandise the intelligence capabilities of the CIA, of MSAD, and either that's pushed by them themselves as an intelligence operation on the people to basically say like, "Hey, this is maybe true and you guys got to be paranoid. or it was just done organically and then it was, you know, proliferated through the internet and supported by these

42:14 organizations to basically make the people that they're up against, their opposition, their enemies or their targets that they're trying to surveil so paranoid where they go through their life being like, I can't go to the dentist because what if I'm being tracked? I can't eat food because what if the chef put a tracking device in my food? It's in my stomach and now all of a sudden I'm being tracked everywhere I go. It makes them so paranoid, ruins their quality of life, and deeply affects their ability to operate in the normal world. So either way, I'm like, I feel like intelligence has their hands on this theory. The fact that we're talking about it, the fact people have heard about it, I'm going to say high chance that there's an intelligence thing happening. Low chance that they literally use dental implants to actually find Kani. Final final ruling on that. What do you think? >> It's diabolical that they say they did it to the spouse.

42:59 >> Crazy. I mean, that was Bin Laden's concern. >> Yeah. >> He was like, "My wife, of course, she goes in, she gets a thing." >> Now he goes and takes all her teeth out. >> I know. >> Which could benefit him. >> Kind of could be a nice move. You know what I mean? They're stuck in a bunker. He's like, "Hey, baby. I have to remove your teeth to prevent the tracking." Only the tracking. That's why I'm removing your teeth. Come on now. >> Come on, baby. >> Also, Vermicelli is also a type of race. >> Oh, stop it. Okay. Edit that out. Expunge that from the record. >> All right, people. Uh we went through uh six of the most interesting theories, but we're not done. Okay, there are three more interesting conspiracy theories that are circulating right now on the web. And u I want to tell you guys about them, but they're a little crazy. I'll be honest with you, and uh I don't want to get uh blasted off the internet here on YouTube. So, these are

43:46 going to go behind a payw wall. I think it's probably going to be YouTube memberships. Maybe it's Patreon. I don't really know to be honest with you. We don't even really have a name for it. We just like are probably going to get demonetized for having these. So, we want to put them out. somewhere that you guys can go check them out if you guys have a good name. I think the inner sanctum is nice. What do you think? >> Campfire. >> The campfire is good. The campground. Oh, the campfire is nice cuz you want to be close to the campfire. I like that. I like that. Okay. Maybe the campfire. >> Yeah. >> Oh, and maybe it's the campfire and then there's the inner sanctum. That's the upper tier. That could be nice. >> Or where all the camp counselors go to make out. >> Whoa, dude. You dirty dog, Christos. But over there, like I want to try to do like uh I want to do I want to do Zooms once a month where like I Zoom with the people of like the top tier where like we just hang out and talk, discuss

44:31 episodes, discuss like crazy theories. Um I want to do like merch stuff where I can like send out merch on the upper tier. >> Start a podcast for your producer. >> Yes, exactly. The Christos files where Christos basically just does a tell all of everything that happens here in the [laughter] town. Um, I think I mean doing extra episodes would be awesome, but uh and then maybe I think ad free episodes should be for sure. Like, hey, you can watch everything without ads because people do comment about the ads, but also we got to keep the fire burning, people. All right, we already talked about that. Um, so there's a bunch of stuff. I haven't officially figured out exactly what it's going to be, but it's in the description right now. Wherever it all ended up, you can see it there. I'm going to figure it out this week. And, uh, yeah, I would love for you guys to to subscribe. You can check out that uh the final part of our conspiracy series over there on uh

45:17 behind that pay wall. And I appreciate you guys so much for supporting the show. Truly, every time you guys uh click, every time you guys comment, every time you guys buy merch on the website, and now every time you guys join uh join us over at the campfire, you truly you you keep the lights on. I mean, I'm telling you, dude, you keep the fire burning. All right. Anyway, this has been another episode of Camp Gagon. Thank you guys so much. Check out Camp R&D if you want the threads. Uh, check out religion camp if you like religious deep dives. That's how I figure out where everyone thinks we're going to go. That's what everyone believes about the divine. Uh, there's also history camp where we figure out everything that's ever happened. And then of course there's camp gag where we try to talk about what's going on right now in this very moment. So, thank you guys so much. God bless you all and I will see you next time. Stay safe. base.