How I Became Homeless, Locked Up, Deported and Banned from Thailand (Part 1)

0:00 zero money. I've then end I've sold my phone just to be able to get get a little bit of money again to try to get a room, try to get some food. I got drunk one night and basically ended up trying to commit suicide. Then I ended up smashing the bottle on the floor was took the glass and just opened up my wrist. Yeah, it's not saying no one no one knows about that. Obviously, they will now. What's the story everybody? Pete here from Tires Times. Hope you're doing well. Do I have a an interview for you today? Wow, it's a quite a powerful one. I've divided it into two parts. So, this is going to be part one. Part two will be coming shortly. So, in part one, we're going to meet Mark from England who's going to talk about how he started a business in Patang, Phuket, which failed. Mark ended up going broke. He ended up being homeless on the streets

0:46 of Phuket, then homeless in Bangkok. He's going to talk about that period of his life and the generosity of the Thai people who kept him alive during that time. Then he was befriended by a group of tuk tuk drivers in Bangkok who work out of the lower sukum vit area. Nana and soy 11. Mark ended up working for for them for a while. He'll talk about that. Then he's going to talk about how he ended up in the IDC, the immigration detention center and then how he ended up going from there to a Thai prison. So we got lots of detail, lots of stories, lots of context in this interview. It is quite a long one, but I didn't want to uh edit anything out and dilute the interview. So, it's all in there. Then, coming up in part two, we have Mark's time inside a Thai prison, the

1:33 conditions, sleeping shoulderto-shoulder on the ground with 70 prisoners in a cell, prison fights, being stripped naked in front of 500 people, how he was able to make it back to the UK while saving the life of another prisoner in the process. That's part two. Uh, I will say this. I don't normally say this at the start of an interview, but I'm going to say it here. It would be very easy to go to town on Mark in the comment sections and say, "This guy's made terrible decisions." You know, it would be very, very easy to to write a lot of nasty comments. But if you get to the end of part two and you watch part two, you'll see that Mark has been through a lot. His mental health is on the floor. He's only been back in the UK six weeks. So, just bear that in mind when you're writing your comments. Um, the way I was

2:20 raised, the way the way I think about it is you don't kick a man when he's down. You try and help him up if you can. And if you're going to write a nasty comment, ask yourself, would you say it to his face? All right, let's get straight into the video, folks. Hope you enjoy it. Cheers, Mark. >> Yeah, >> thanks for coming on. I I kind of, you know, I know the gist of your story, but you have the main, you know, the story we want, we all want to know. >> Yeah. Let's go, I suppose, all the way back to the very beginning. Uh, tell everybody how you made the move from England to Thailand. >> Yeah, basically I got um during COVID, I had a bit of inheritance come through and it was it wasn't enough to do anything to change my life in England.

3:07 So, obviously to start a business, things like this in England, it's it's expensive, but it was enough to sort of be able to start up a business in Thailand because obviously everyone knows it's a lot cheaper out there to do everything. >> Had you been to Thailand before? >> No, I hadn't. No. So, I chose to go there on a holiday, sort of check it out. I had friends from England that already live out there, um, that sort of own businesses and things like that. So, they sort of gave me a few ins and outs. So I already had sort of friends based in Phuket. Um but my main friends were over in Bangkok. So >> And then what was the business idea that you had? >> Well, it was just as they legalized the cannabis industry. So I started a cannabis shop. Um and then I also had rooms upstairs which I was going to do up and rent out. So it was a fourstory

3:55 building. >> And which part of Phuket? >> Uh I was right on Bangler Road. >> Bangler Road. Okay. >> Yeah. The walking street. >> Okay. Bangler Road. walking street. Okay. How did you I mean what was the process to set that up? Was it easy to set up? >> Um it was quite easy. I was sort of searching. So I said originally I went on there on holiday um for 3 weeks. Done the usual thing. I've gone there. I'm in the nightclub. Started talking to a girl. We've ended up sort of quite liking each other. She sort of spent the whole 3 weeks time with me. Sort of traveled Thailand. Went Bangkok. Went over to PP. went um down in Paya and yeah, we sort of tra done a bit of traveling together. I sort of spoke about me coming back and starting up the

4:40 business. So, I've gone back to England. I was back in England for 2 weeks and I just hated it. I just hated being back. The weather, it was around November time, thinking about just going back to a standard 9 to 5 job. I was thinking, "No, this is not not what I want to do." So sort of decided to yeah start looking online at um businesses for sale in in Thailand basically. Joined all the Facebook groups, things like that. I got her to obviously look she was living in Phuket. Got her to look for places. Um yeah, we end up founding finding a building on Bangar Road that someone was selling their company. So I just had to do the change over of the names of the company and

5:27 sort of buy the company direct from them and then rent the building that they already had. So that was sort of pretty pretty straightforward sort of lawyers and everything like that. They already had the lawyers and everything. So I mean personally now looking back on it I think I overpaid um for a lot of things being my first time out there and being sort of quite young compared to a lot of business people out there. Um >> how much you pay? >> I paid 1.2 2 million B for the company. Um, so like the takeover for the company, it was then another half a million B key money for the shop, 200,000 B deposit, and then a 60,000 B a month rent I was paying for the shop. >> And was that all in your name?

6:13 >> Yeah. Well, it's 4951. So, it was mine and my girlfriend's at the time name. Uh, we obviously started the club, we done the company together. So, yeah, she owned 51% and I I owned the 49. >> And you put all the all the the cash in. It was all your cash. >> Yeah, it was all my money. Same with the condo we got together. Um, when I got a nice condo up in Katu in Phuket, a little bit out the sort of way from the tourist zone. Um, and yeah, sort of like when I first got there, I thought I was living the absolute dream. 32, sort of starting a business, lovely condo, sort of been a drive nice cars, like living right on the beach every day, good food.

6:58 Yeah, I was that was sort of living the dream for that that at that moment. >> And how was the business doing? I mean, Bangler Roads, it's incredibly busy, but I'm sure there's a lot of competition for other, >> you know, cannabis shops or whatever in that area. >> Yeah, that's that's one thing I didn't really notice. And I was on um a small soy just off of Bangler Road um opposite nightclub illusion. I was on a I was on a soy down there. Um so the foot traffic wasn't as good. I had to get someone to sort of go and stand on actual Bangler Road. You know the people with the signs that oh come down come down to the shop sort of we've got the best prices and all this. And just on the soy alone that I was on there was three other shops. So that was quite hard. Uh high season it

7:45 done okay but then for the low low season it yeah it wasn't it wasn't good. >> Were you turning a profit? >> Uh no I never I never made a profit there cuz the main reason I got it was to do the rooms upstairs. Um, I had a four-story building which I was going to convert and make it into like a hostel and then have a few double rooms to rent out. And basically I run out of enough money to be able to convert the building to how I wanted to do it. So yeah, that was where I sort of lost out and was not being able to fully do exactly what I wanted to do with the building. >> When you say run out of money, how much do you reckon you put into the business at this stage? Uh

8:33 roughly I'd say around 2 to 3 million B overall I was in um so yeah about sort of 50 60,000 English I'd say roughly. >> Wow. Okay. >> Yeah. But um yeah I was sort of looking for but again it's I was doing the usual thing. I was out partying a lot sort of trying to live the bit more of a high life. out there. Instead of me just going for a normal party, I was getting the expensive VIP tables. Like I said, going for sort of high-end condos rather than sort of cheaper ones, things like that. Sort of. Yeah. So, I I wasn't the best as I could have been with money there myself anyway. I was

9:19 sort of spending above my means, shall we say. And were you were you blowing through this money with your girlfriend partying living that lifestyle? >> Yeah. So to begin with um me and my girlfriend at the time we used to go out partying quite a lot. Was regular in a few nightclubs there. I got quite well known. Um so I said me and her get a few VIP VIP tables every week. She'd always bring a couple of her friends that would join along. See I'm buying two three bottles of drink every night. probably spending around 30,000 bar a night on partying. >> Jesus. >> Yeah. So that sort of table would cost me about 20. Then obviously all food and little bits extra. I'd be tipping all

10:04 the staff, giving all the staff tips afterwards. I had like my own security in the nightclub that I did. >> Oh, say everybody loved you. >> Yeah. Yeah, they did. They saw me coming. But um at the time again I'm sort of thinking like oh as soon as this business kicks off I'm going to be good. So this money for me right now it's sort of pocket money if you know what I mean. I didn't expect that I would lose lose it all and sort of not not be able to gain it back. But yeah, end up splitting up with a girlfriend and then again it was when I when I was single, I was partying quite a lot as well and sort of it gets a bit more expensive when you're single out there partying. >> So what happened when you split up with the girlfriend? She still has 51% of the

10:49 business. >> Yeah. Yeah. Now luckily she was quite good in that sense. She ended up moving back to her hometown up up north north of Thailand. She done everything she needed to do. like if it was paperwork she would sign she I could send it to her and she'd sign it. Um sometimes I' have to give her a bit of money to do it. But yeah, she was still I was quite lucky in that case that she didn't didn't sort of do anything bad with the company. She did want me to try and find someone else to sort of put the company in their name like find another new investment or new partner. So that's what I then started to do. I started trying to look for someone to invest money into my company so I could get it back and get it to how I wanted to do it. And that's that's where things started going proper downhill to be honest with when I started looking for

11:35 investors. >> How did it start going downhill? >> Um well I got in with a few people um local people. sort of one of them sort of promised me the world was like I wanted uh 1.5 million B to take over 51% of the company so I needed someone tire sort of said to him like look I'm selling 51% of my company this is my plan I had all business plan sort of saying about I want to do the rooms sort of had a return on investment idea of roughly about a year um once the rooms were sort of rented out and sort of for high season had Someone was like, "Yeah, interested 100%." I'm like, "Okay, well, I want 20% deposit now." And then when

12:21 we go go to lawyers and sign all the paperwork over, obviously I want the remainder like of the of the money. I was like, "Yep, that's fine." Done all that. And again, I was kind of dating the woman who was wanting to do this, which again, I was mixing a lot of business and pleasure, which I shouldn't have really done, but um, >> look, it happens. It does happen. >> Yeah. Especially in a place like that, it's one of the only ways you can sort of do it. You can't you can't own a business there without having a tire. And most of the people that you meet out there are sort of the the bar girls, the sort of girls in the nightclubs and especially in an area like Phuket in Patang. So >> yeah, I was going to say Bangla Road, you're in that you're in that life, that environment. >> Yeah. So every day I'm sort of there. So

13:07 they were the sort of people I knew and sort of the people that I thought I could trust. But yeah, this woman, she was like, I already knew she was a little bit crazy from dating her, you know what I mean? Quite some females are. Um, yeah, she was like, "Yeah, I want to do business with you. I want to do the business." She had a small business herself already doing like sort of laundry a laundry business in in Pong as well, which done done okay. She had like her own place like didn't didn't sort of rely on me for money or things like that. So, I was sort of thinking like, okay, yeah, this one's little bit different. She never asked me for anything like she didn't didn't come live with me straight away. She wanted like her own space and everything. She was a little bit older as well. So that sort of helped. And then basically all of a sudden she's completely changed her

13:54 mind and gone no I I don't want to do this business anymore. Basically I personally think she couldn't get the rest of the money for it and tried to make an excuse. She's then said that the she already given me nearly 400,000 Bart as like the deposit. She's then sort of said to me, I've now got to pay this back. I've already used that deposit, put it back into the business, sort of paying rent and at this time I was like 2 3 months behind on rent. So I sort of put that back in, sort of cleared my overheads with the rent, started doing bit more work on it that that I wanted to do that sort of few renovations and things like that. And then yeah, all of a sudden she's going, "That was a loan. I never

14:41 I never said I was going to do business with you. I said I'd loan. I said I'd help you out. Now I need the money back." Obviously, I'm sitting there. I've not got that's why I'm looking for an investor because I' i've not got that that money there anymore. So I've sort of said like look I can't I can't pay you back instead sort of lead to me having sort of quite some bad people after me um sort of having having quite a lot of fights and things like this which weren't weren't good. >> You mean so she basically said like you owe me 10 grand and you're like oh like you put into the business I don't have 10 grand it's in the business already. And then she says she got people after you. >> Yeah. Yeah. So I ended up um like basically I had quite a few expensive items and things like this

15:27 that I sort of got when when I sort of had good money. So I was sort of planning to send send some bits back to England to sell and again to raise raise the money like bit of jewelry, some high-end clothing. Sending that back to England to basically sell it, get the money. I was like, "Right, yeah, I don't really want any sort of trouble out here." So, yeah, I'll pay you back the money and then the rest of the money I can use for my business. But I sort of said to her, I need you to help me send it like the post. Cuz at this time, my motorbike company had my passport. So, I used my passport as a deposit for my motorbike. So, I couldn't use the post service without any ID. So, I've gone to this big box of stuff.

16:15 um sort of get saying to her that look we need to send this back to England all of a sudden two people have come running around the corner sort of jumped me stole all the stuff yeah didn't beat me up badly but yeah they sort of done done what they needed to do obviously she denied that she had anything to do with it still going on like I had the money so yeah and at that point I know that she had had zero um the rent of my condo was 20,000 a month. I was again at this point now about a month, two months behind rent on the on the shop building. I'd been closed for about a month cuz I couldn't afford stock and the staff. So yeah, that was sort of the last turning point where I was I now had nothing.

17:03 couldn't afford to even pay pay what I owed my motorbike cuz what I used to do with my motorbike I just pay monthly where I lived there and sort of they just let me go go down once a month and just just pay whatever I owed again at this point I owed about 20,000 B for the motorbike which which I didn't have um so I've ended up taking motorbike and said oh look I'll pay you in pay you can I can't afford to pay you right now so obviously they've they've kept my passport um And yeah, end up like still went further and further downhill from even from there to be honest. >> Right. So you're hemorrhaging money everywhere. You owe everybody money. We say in Ireland you owe your bollocks. I mean you're [ __ ] you're you're deep in debt.

17:48 >> Yeah. >> Uh what happens then? >> So basically I managed to say to the people who owned the building like the owners of the building sort of like look I can't basically I can't carry on with this. Uh, I need to sort of move move my stuff out. I basically gone there next day. They put a big lock on my building and there's a big sign from the police on there basically saying I can't enter can't get any of my stuff out of the shop. Um, be trespassing if I enter to the shop. So, they basically took control back of the shop. The owners basically said, "I'm not getting any deposit back, any of my key money back." But, they sort of said like, "There's no there's no debt. You don't owe any money. you're like we're clear but you're not getting any deposit back or anything. So obviously I've defaulted my

18:34 rental agreement. I was like yeah that's fine. At least that's one thing. I then sort of obviously sorted out with my lawyer uh sort of put the business on hold so I didn't have to pay the SSID which is like the social securityities. I didn't have to pay all the little fees that I was paying every month to own a business there. So the business was sort of left dormant. I could sort of restart it if I wanted to, but at the time it was a non nonopen business basically. >> Are you full broke at this stage? Like you've got >> Yeah, I'm zero. Um, again, I'm sort of I'm struggling. I'm just about managing to get get by moneywise to sort of pay my rent from a condo and and eat and things like this. At this point, I had some family back

19:21 home help me one month to pay pay my rent and sort of help me out. Obviously, a lot of people were telling me to just just go home, just go back to England. And it was more more of a pride thing more than anything else um stopping me. I should have gone back months before this. >> And what was your plan then? Like were you thinking, "Okay, I'm going to try and get this up again, get up and running again. I need some cash." Or were you What was your mindset at that time? >> Yeah, I'm just thinking I just need to sort of try and get some sort of work. I think I need to get down into Bangkok, speak to my friends down there, sort of try and get something. I've I've always had the mindset that something would always come through. Something's going to like happen. Uh even even if I can just get a few,000 together, I can I can

20:09 start something small. I I just didn't want to give up the sort of dream of living there. So sort of even if I could just afford to pay my rent, afford to pay my food and live in paradise, then I would sort of quite happily do that for a while until I could get some sort of work out there. I was looking at maybe doing my TEFL things like this. So again, >> what year are we talking here? >> This was uh now last year. So 20 I went out there 2023. This is now 2024. >> Okay. Yeah. So, took me about a year to get to this point that we're at now. Um, from going out there and starting the business and everything to now being absolute zero, sort of scraping by

20:56 um just to be able to afford rent really. Uh, I ended up moving to a cheaper condo. So, I moved from a 20,000 B a month condo down to 9,000 B a month condo. That helped out a lot. um obviously not having as much to pay out for and then again it got to the point where basically I had the woman from the motorbike now obviously telling I owed her 20,000 B for the motorbike and she had my passport. She now started saying if I don't pay 20,000 B, she's going to obviously go go to the police, make a report to the police and everything. And I'd have to go down there and sort of sort out the situation of paying back

21:41 this 20,000. I sort of said to her, I was like, look, I generally haven't got it. I was like, I'm not I can't go anywhere. You've got my passport, so I can't I can't leave the country, but right now I've not got it. Um, so I felt pressure of having to pay that. And the thing is at this point I just started over my visa had just run out. So I'm now starting to overstay on my visa. So yeah this is again now it's it's getting sort of into me now starting to commit. >> What visa did you have >> at that point? When I first went there I had a nonB business visa um along with a work permit. See, that lasted for a year. But then when that that run out, I couldn't again I couldn't afford to renew the business visa. So I ended up

22:27 doing a visa run over to Malaysia and re-entered back in just on a normal tourist visa at this point. Just a 60-day tourist visa which had now Yeah, that had now expired. And again, I've not got the money to be able to go and do another another border run. And at this point, I don't even have my own passport. So yeah. Or were you drinking and partying still even though I mean you could you could probably party in Phuket for a thousand B really if you really budgeted? >> Yeah, I mean I stopped going stopped getting the VIP tables in the clubs and things like this but I was still I was still down on Bangler Road most days cuz I said that's where everyone that I knew was down there. So yeah, sort of I was down on Bangler Road a lot partying in the bars this time. The only good thing

23:13 was a lot everyone knew I wasn't a tourist there. So it wasn't like having all the women coming up sort of doing the tourist traps of oh buy me a drink, do this, do that. A lot of people I was quite honest with the sort of position I was in. So yeah, most time I would be sitting there. I know a few people I knew they'd buy me a couple of drinks. I'd obviously buy a few drinks for myself, but yeah, I was still quite involved in the nightife scene out there at least sort of five five days a week. I'd be I'd be on Bang the Road most nights. >> Do you reckon you got lost in it? You got caught up in it and lost in the light night life and the party. >> Yeah, 100%. Especially from like I said before I went was co and then sort of in England the party ages are sort of 18 to 22.

23:59 So sort of once you get past that stage I had obviously I've got two children in in England uh things like that. So I'd not partied for a long time not done the boys holidays for a long time things like that. And then when I went, I said when I saw Thailand and realized it's a lot more of an older group. Obviously, yeah, you do get still a lot of your 18 to 25 year olds there, but it's a lot more of an older group. But you go to the nightclubs there and you've got 30, 40, 50, 60 year old people sitting there surrounded by women, bottles of bottles of alcohol in VIP tables, sort of loving life. and I sort of refell in love and sort of got back into that sort of lifestyle again. And for how cheap it

24:44 was compared to back home, it was like I didn't realize how much money I was going through so quickly um until I sort of had nothing left. >> So then what happens, right, you're you're enjoying this party lifestyle 5 days a week. You still owe money to this lady. What you're you're on over your visa. What happens then? >> Yeah. Um, basically after that I've then uh so he started to say things happen in freeze. I say bad things happen in freeze. So I've not got my passport at this point. Then my bank card stopped working. My my English bank account. I only ever had a tie account but it was a business account. I never had a personal account. Get it was a big regret I sort

25:30 of have not setting that up but I just never got around to doing it. I just always used my English account. paid the 200 bar at the ATM and get out what I needed to get. Yeah. My ATM card stopped working. I run out of >> When you say stop working because it was maxed out or something like that or why did it stop? >> Generally the the chip the chip in the card generally stopped working. So when I'm putting it in the card just not reading it and spitting the card straight back out. At this point, I'd run out of people to sort of ask and to sort of borrow money from because I'm sort of having to borrow around 10 to 15,000 bar a month from family and things like that to sort of get by, sort of pay for my rent, pay for my food and everything like that. And I sort of run

26:15 out of people to ask. So literally, yeah, after that end up losing the condo. So again, I couldn't pay the rent and to move out the condo. Luckily, I had a friend that went and let me stayed stayed with them. She owned owned a bar uh in in Katu. She let me sleep above the bar for free. Uh I was quite I was quite good friends with her. So she helped me out. But I kept sort of just thinking I just need to get by this week. By next week something will happen. I kept thinking it's not going to be like the Saints going to come through. Do you know what I mean? either something from back home or some sort of work. So I kept thinking like I just need help for a week. I just need help for a week. I wasn't telling people the full true story of actually how bad it

27:02 was for me out there. I was sort of silver putting a silver lining on everything. Not being fully honest with people. Sort of like the woman that let me stay. I was sort of saying, "Oh yeah, I'm going home going back to England in in a few weeks. So I just need somewhere to stay until then." M. >> So, you were basically kind of lying to the people around you just so >> Yeah. >> You know, they're not going to tell you the truth. I mean, no one's probably going to tell you, "Listen, mate, you need to go home." >> Yeah. >> You were keeping it going. You were lying to yourself and lying to other people. >> Yeah. Yeah. Basically, just trying to get by each week um trying to get by. Like you said, I had no one sitting there. I've not got a big family. I've got my dad and a few cousins. Um things. So, I've got no one ringing me up just going, "Mark, come on. Stop doing this."

27:48 It's like what what you doing is obviously not working. Come home. I'm still sitting there at that moment. I'm looking as I've got I've got a roof over my head. I've got food in my stomach. I've got people that I thought were friends around me. I'm at a perfect beach every day. Um in hot. So yeah, I'm still I'm still good. Still everything's fine. I'm sort of lying to myself that everything was fine. Not sort of realizing the sort of grave I'm digging for myself almost. keep on overstaying. Obviously, things like that. I was quite lucky that I was sort of staying somewhere that they didn't ask for any ID. So, the immigration obviously didn't know where I was. So, I sort of felt I was a bit on the run. Now, at this point, I'm sort of keeping my toes from immigration, making sure I'm not getting

28:33 pulled over by any police or anything cuz obviously out there you have to carry your ID or some sort of thing on you when the police stop you. So soon as they would look into my visa situation, they would see I'd overstayed and I knew that's when I'd then have some some problems. I already thought that the police were looking for me due to this motorbike situation. So again, that made me sort of quite scared of getting pulled over by the police and having them looking to me. And as well, I still had the the Thai woman who was meant to invest in the business. I had her sort of saying obviously she still wanted wanted her money back saying that she'd been to police sort of saying that I had

29:20 uh police after me that I couldn't leave the country things like this. So at this point I was sort of thinking it's either I'm on the run I sort of stay on my toes um not get into any trouble and try and sort of figure out a way to get bic I knew everything could be solved by money. So, it was just trying to find a way of getting by each day and trying to sort of get get some money to sort out these problems. >> So, did you get any money then? >> No. No. Um, that didn't end up happening. This is now we're talking now Christmas. Uh, Christmas's just gone now. It's now got to the point of sort of I can't stay at the bar anymore with the lady. I've now literally all I've got to my name is just a rucks sack. I say I didn't have no ATM card. I've got no passport, nothing. I'm now basically

30:07 homeless. At one point I was sleeping. Do you know Phuket at all? Do you know Phuket? >> Yeah, I've been to Phuket a couple of times. Yeah. >> So, you know, um obviously up in Phuket Oldtown. >> Yeah. Yeah. Been there. Yeah. Loads of times. >> I was sleeping there. Um sleeping there basically on the streets. >> Um >> No way. >> Yeah. I was There's a place called the Queens Park um just in in the center of Oldtown. It's got like a big gray statue. It's got like a bench around the statue. That was my bed for a few weeks. >> No way. So, how did you end up being homeless when you were when you had that place in Cat 2 where you were staying in that bar? >> Yeah. Obviously, where again, I sort of lied to them about sort of how long I needed

30:53 to stay for. I couldn't keep coming up with excuses of why I hadn't gone home yet without telling the truth. and yeah, it's my own fault for not telling people the truth about what was going on with me and things like this. So, I basically said to them that I'm going home obviously knowing that I wasn't and yeah, it got to the point it got sort of quite that was my lowest sort of point out there was sort of thinking where can I go now? I've ended up going to Oldtown cuz I knew a hostel that was there, you know, that we had the multiple beds in one room. Cheap was like sort of was like 700 B for a night or something. So, I've ended up going there for a couple of nights. >> That's not that cheap if if you've got nothing.

31:39 >> Yeah, of course. Yeah. Still with with nothing. Um but yeah, I booked there for two nights. Um gone there. I sort of knew the system quite well at this point. So I knew I couldn't stay anywhere for longer than 3 days. Um otherwise they so what I done I had a copy of my passport. I would show the hotel. I'd say like I haven't got my original here's a copy and what it is they take 3 days to let to get to the immigration to let the to do the immigration report to basically let immigration know who's staying there at that time. And that's normally how long it would take for them immigration to find out I've overstayed and come and get me. So I knew I couldn't stay anywhere for longer than three days. So yeah, I was sort of moving host around

32:24 um old town and then again it got to the point now where I've literally again I've got zero money. I've then end I've sold my phone just to be able to get get a little bit of money again to try to get a room, try to get some food. But now I've lost my contact with family and things like this. I'm just keep going down and down and but it's everything is my decision sort of why I should have just picked up the phone and gone and booked me a flight. I need to come home or gone and handed myself into immigration or something. But >> was there was there I mean at during this time was there like was there drugs or alcohol going on? Is that >> Yeah, it was mainly drinking. Um at this

33:09 point I'd quit. I used to smoke cannabis quite a lot again. That's why I started a cannabis business. But yeah, I stopped smoking cannabis basically when I couldn't afford it. But I was drinking quite a lot. I said a beer bottle of chain is what 40 40 50 60 B. Um, so it'd be a case of some nights I'd get I'd get a couple of hundred of Bart. I be thinking, "Oh, I might be able to go and get a bed for the night and I was sort of choosing to go and get a few chains and walk the streets or sort of sleep wherever I could for the night instead of sort of using that money to go and go and get myself a room or try and save up enough money to pay pay to get home." >> And you were sleeping in this park then? >> Yeah. Yeah, I was sleeping in the park

33:54 in Oldtown and then sort of this is when I said this what what I said to you about the sort of generosity of the local Thai people. This is now when I sort of started seeing a different side to people. So I'm been in this park now probably about five six days. I walk walk up and down the park. I go for a walk and things like that just sort of to walk around. Waste of time. Like I said, I didn't didn't have a phone to be able to sit there and even play a game on my phone or anything. So, I'm doing things to sort of get waste time and sort of try and I had no plan at this this point. I had all my plans had gone out the window. I'm now literally in just survival mode. I'm just trying to survive. I sort of knew I needed to go to immigration, hand myself in about the overstay. But at this point, I didn't

34:40 even have enough money for a taxi to be able to get um to where the immigration office is uh and hand myself in in Phuket. So, I'm literally just, yeah, full on survival mode. I had this Thai man pull up on a motorbike. Um, sort of local local grab driver. So, it was about about 1 2 a.m. in the morning. I was sort of walking back up through the park and sort of going, "Hey, hey, like you okay? You okay?" And I was sort of running people I'd never like asking for help. I'd rather bite my lip and bite my pride than sort of admit to someone like, "Yes, I need help. Something's wrong." And it was he sort of said like, "No, no. I've seen I've seen you for the last two, three nights. Like, I know you're not good. I know

35:26 you're not good." And I'm like sort of finally sort of opened up to him and sort of sat down with him for a minute. He was like, "Oh, do you need cigarettes?" I was like, "Yeah, I smoke." Sort of pulled out 20 cigarettes out his bag, gave them to me. So, I'm sitting there having a cigarette with him, sort of told him my story. And then he was like, "Oh, have you eaten today?" I was like, "No, I've not eaten yet." Uh, at this point I hadn't eaten anything all day. He then took me food, took me to 7-Eleven, gave me a little bit of money to sort of get get some more food the following day. Uh, brought me a blanket and things like this obviously where I was sleeping on the on the bench in the park. And yeah, basic he said like he's saying sorry to that he can't help can't help more. And I'm like, you've done more for me than sort

36:11 of anyone's done. Most people are tourists. They they see me sitting there. I mean, I didn't look homeless. I sort of still had where all my clothes were sort of designer clothes and things like this. I'm sort of sleeping in a quite expensive clothing. My trainers were still all right. I didn't look like your average homeless person. So, I presume most tourists and things like this that would be walking past me, they're only going to walk down this road once. It's not like somewhere that you're going to walk constantly. So they probably sort of walk past me and just think I'm a standard tourist just sort of sitting on the bench having having a cigarette. No one sort of ever stopped to think like oh this this man need help. And I never sort of put my arm my arm out to sort of say like look I do need I need help. Can someone help me?

36:56 And then yeah like I said until this this time man come and sort of brought me the food. He then started coming to me sort of every day or we start work. He'd come bring me like 200 Bart, like a little bit of food, some water. Uh he'd then come again after he'd finished work before he'd go home. Again, bring me a meal with food. Um make sure >> Did you confide in him and say, "Look, you know, I'm going to overstay. This is my story. This is my situation." >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told I was honest with him about everything. That's that's when he sort of did did start to help me. at this time he didn't have because obviously the grab drivers some they don't earn a lot of money so he had a very basically I was trying to get in contact with my family back in England

37:43 the only way I knew I knew my dad's number off by heart but it's only his WhatsApp number and this bloke the phone he had didn't didn't have WhatsApp on it he only had line or like their sort of version of it so yeah I'm sort of trying to figure out a way to sort of get a hold of family back at home. But yeah, I was fully honest with him about everything. And like I said, he just basically every day he'd come to me and just sort of yeah, bring me say if he if he earned a,000 Bart, he'd come bring me to 200 B for food and things like this. Would take me on a little drive um with him, sort of making sure that I was okay. And yeah, he sort of said that that that would be his karma um his good karma for the for the day so that he'd

38:28 hopefully get get more customers with work or things like this. So obviously Buddhist country they believe a lot in the sort of karma do good you get good back things like that. So yeah he sort of helped me out a lot and then it got to the point a couple of days went by and I didn't didn't see him. Um, so I presume he wasn't maybe wasn't working or something had gone wrong with the motorbike. I didn't have any contact with him. I didn't I had no number for him. His name was Chicken. That was his nickname. Um, so >> yeah. Yeah. Guy. So yeah, did call him call himself Chicken. >> So that was that was all I knew of him. I couldn't really go around asking people, "Oh, do you know a time man called Chicken? I'm trying to find him."

39:14 So yeah, it sort of couple of nights went past. I'm sort of sitting still where I was. He hadn't been. And then all of a sudden another man's pulled up again. Taxi driver, grab driver. He's going, "Oh, Mac, Mac." Cuz obly they don't pronounce the Rs out out there. It's like they don't say Mark. It's Mac. Mac. So he's like shouted over to me. I've never seen this man before. He's like, "M." I'm now sort of bit scared. I'm thinking this might be one of the BS that someone sent or something. I'm thinking, "Oh, do I run?" And he's like, "No, no, come here. Chicken chicken friend, chicken friend." So I'm like, "Okay." Like I've gone over to him. He's like, "Oh, like he tell me you need you need help." I'm like, "Yes, yes." He's like, "Okay." Like gave me then again he's then started giving me

40:00 some money and he's going, "Oh, like you want you want beer? Like we'll go for a beer." I was like, "Okay." Yeah. Me and him have gone for a beer now in Oldtown. Again, I'm telling my full story. At this point, I I stopped lying to people about what situation I was in. I was being sort of fully honest with people about what had happened and everything. He then sort of said like, "Oh, obviously he can help me with a little bit of money and food." He sort of make sure I eat every day. And he was like, "If if you're okay sleeping sleeping in like room, he's like, I have somewhere you can sleep." And I'm sitting there at this point I need I nearly broke down in tears sort of just happy to have roof over my head. He's then took me up to this about 5 10

40:46 minute drive from uh the center of Puket Oldtown. He's then took me in took me into like this little room. Basically him and his son would would sleep in this room every day. His son didn't go to school. So his son would sort of stay there when he'd go out and drive on his motorbike and he sort of said there was like a small space on the floor. He put like a blanket down for me and sort of said you can stay here and we try we try to get you help. We try try to get help. >> How old was his son? >> Uh son was about seven about six seven years old. Yeah. Quite quite young. Again he was just sleeping on the floor. Um they they didn't really have a lot but he's sitting there choosing to to help

41:32 to help me. Um and again he's sort of seeing it as it's going to be good karma for him and and his son helping me. His son quite liked having as what they call fang. Oh, fang. Fang man. Fang man. So he was and yeah. So he sort of saw it as a bit of a he didn't obviously know what's going on. He's six seven years old. But yeah, there's now three of us sleeping in. Yeah. Small little box room. There's no bed in there. There's no TV. There's no air conditioning. It's just fans. But at least it's it's now it's a roof. It's a roof over my head. And yeah, he's taking me for food every morning. um before he goes to work with his son. He'd then take his son to his friend's place. His friend would look after him during the day and

42:18 I'd then sort of do what I'd done during the day. I'd sort of meet him by at that park every night. He'd then pick me up and he'd then let me stay at his place again. And yeah, this this went on for about a week. He managed to get hold of a phone from one of his friends. I could contact my dad. Your family must have been worried. Disappeared for what, two weeks? >> Yeah. At this point, it' been around a month of no contact. And the last contact I had with my dad was saying, "I've got people after me and I've got no money left. I'm now homeless." And yeah, now he's not heard from me. My kids haven't heard from me. >> They probably thought you were dead. >> Yeah, a lot of people did. A lot of my friends thought I was dead. When I got back and I had messages on my Facebook and things like this, um, yeah, a lot of

43:05 people thought I died. Yeah. >> So then what happens? You're in this house for you're in this this room for a week or whatever. What happens? >> Yeah. Yeah. So then after that I man, I said I managed to get hold of my dad. So I'd found out that basically if I could take myself to court um take myself to immigration, hand myself in to immigration, go to court, I could pay a fine of 5,000 B at court for the overstay. I then knew that I'd be transferred to an IDC to to an immigration center. Um but then basically I'd be deported home and I could go home. All I've got to pay is 5,000 B and I can go home. So I'm thinking, yeah, okay, this is what I need to do. So I've obviously said to my dad,

43:50 can you get I need 5,000 B to be able to get home. Can you get this to me somehow like um through Western Union? Obviously send it to the Thai man. He'll then take it out for me, give it to me, and yeah, basically get get this money so I can just hand myself in. I said to him, I might have to do do a couple of days in a immigration center and I'll be able to come home. Obviously, straight away my dad's gone. Yeah, I get paid on this day, which is about another 5 days away at this point. We're now sort of into yeah, January January this year. So, yeah, he's he said, "Yeah, about four or five days, I can send you the money." So, I've gone, "Yeah, perfect. said to the Thai man like, "Look, this is what I'm going to do. 5 days. Can you take me

44:36 to immigration? Take me there. I'm going to hand myself in. I'm going to go home and see everyone's happy. My dad's happy that he's heard from me." I managed to FaceTime my children. Uh speak to my children. Spoke to a few friends. Sort of let people know that I'm fine, but uh it's going to take me a week or so, but I'm going to be I'm going to be home and everything's okay. So yeah, I end up I got the money from from my dad. This is again it sort of I don't know how to take this this part. I still don't really understand this part to be honest. Um uh I've ended up then going to to the immigration center where the IDC is in uh Phuket near Phuket Oldtown. Um

45:21 well obviously the big court where the main court is then gone there I've gone in inside there was a lovely Australian woman uh in there working all volunteers all most of the workers in there I've sort of said to her but look I've overstayed I've not got a passport um at this point I'm not being honest still about what's happened to my passport and tell them that I've lost it so I'm not telling people that oh this person's got my passport otherwise again I wouldn't be able to get help. So saying, "I've lost my passport. I've overstayed my visa. I need to I'm homeless." Things like this. I've been living on the streets of I need I need to go home. So they've gone, "Yeah." Basically, they've gone, "Oh, at the moment the holding holding center, the

46:09 holding prison is full. Can you come back tomorrow? Come here at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. We'll do everything." You go to court the next day. you pay your overstay fine in court and then you you'll be transferred to Bangkok basically and then you'll be deported back home. This is what the Australian woman said and I spoke to the British embassy on the phone as well and that's that's what they said to me. So I then spent one more night just sort of walking walking around the streets. I had a really nice Australian man in in the immigration as well. obviously heard my story, overheard my story, and was like, "Ah, here's here's 2,000 B. Get yourself through the night until you come back tomorrow." Like, I hope this helps. So, obviously, I'm seeing that as one final night of of a little party um

46:56 before I go to IDC. I'm like, "Yeah, I've got 2,000 B in pocket. I'm going to go out party all night." So, yeah, end up going into Oldtown. Couple of bars I know there. There's Yanfield Bar. It's quite was quite a regular in. See, I've end up going in there, watching the football, yeah, having a few drinks, getting some nice food. Sort of just had quite a not a nice last night, but sort of like a bit more of a just ending it on a what I would thought would be be a good a better note to end it on than me, my last night being homeless. So, I got managed to get a hotel for the night. Yeah. Then, like I said, gone out, got drunk, had a good night, gone to immigration again the next day. They've had all my passport details and everything. Sort of took me down into

47:43 where the holding cell is that I'd have to stay for a night before I went to court. And again, I'm sort of explaining my situation. And they're sort of saying that, oh yeah, it's 20,000 B you got to pay, not 5,000. They're like, it's 500 B per day and then for a max maximum of 20,000 B. I'm like, "Well, I've not got I've not got 20,000 B." I got told it was 5,000. I've only got 5,000 Bart to pay my court fine. They're like, "No, it's 20,000 B um for an overstay." And again, I'm sort of sitting there and now I'm now I'm panicking again. I'm sort of outside, say directly behind me was the cells. Everyone's sitting in the cells. I'm sort of on a bench outside it sort of

48:28 speaking to the immigration police officers basically telling them like, "Look, I've not got it. I've not got 20,000 B. I've got 5,000 B." That's all I've got. I can go to court tomorrow and pay 5,000. And he sort of said, "Have you got you got any family? Anything that anyone you can ask?" So again, I've borrowed their phone. I've called my dad again. And I sort of gone, "Dad, look, I was wrong. It's not 5,000 B. I've got to pay. It's this amount. Can you help me?" Obviously, my dad's 60 60s something years old. He's he's retired. He's on a pension. he can't send me hundreds of pounds every month and still be able to live himself. So he's sort of said like no I can't until I get paid again.

49:14 So I basically explained to them look I can get the money but it's going to be in about a week two weeks time. And they've basically told me to go and come back once I've got got the money cuz they basically said otherwise I'd go to actual real prison and to survive in a prison with no money I'm not I'm not going to survive. >> So they knew you're an overstay. They let you go. Yeah. >> They come back when you have the money. >> Yeah. Yeah. cuz basically they said if if you've not got any money as a foreigner in a Thai prison in Phuket, you're going to be left there. You're going to be forgotten about and you're not going to survive. Um they basically said you're better you're better off leaving, waiting a week or two, get the

50:01 money and yeah, basically come back once once you can pay it. or they they said the other thing you can do is take yourself to Bangkok. Um cuz obviously the main immigration, everything's in in Bangkok. They was like, "Take yourself to Bangkok." Um I was like, "Look, I've not got a passport. I can't fly." They've then given me a copy of my passport and I had a police report saying that I I'd lost it. At this point, I knew that there was no police looking for me or anything for the motorbike incident or anything cuz I'd gone to the police and said I've lost my passport. They've typed in all my details. Nothing's come up about me. They've given me a letter

50:47 saying that I've lost my passport on the beach. One night I was drunk. I fell asleep on the beach and I woke up and I've got no passport. So again, that was a relief sort of now thinking right I haven't got the police aren't after me. That was sort of them lying to to scare me for months, sort of saying that there was police after me when actually there there wasn't. So at this point, I've got I've got my letter saying I've got no passport and the reasons for it. I've got 5,000 Bart in my pocket. Sort of thinking, right, I can either go to Bangkok. I've got friends in Bangkok that I'll be able to stay with as well, friends from England. Or I can stay, be homeless again for a week in Phuket, wait till I get this extra money, go back to immigration here, deal with it here, and go through that process. I sort of thought, no, I'm going to going

51:33 to head down to Bangkok. So, I've gone to the um bus, the main bus station, bus terminal in Phuket, again in Phuket, Oldtown. Um book myself a ticket. It was 750 Bart for an overnight bus to Bangkok. Takes about 12 12 hours. Um so a little sleeper bus. So I think right I'm going to go to Bangkok sort this out wait for the money. I'll then go to immigration in Bangkok cuz they said it'll be a quicker process than doing it in Phuket. And as well the embass the British embassy is in Bangkok. They haven't got an embassy in Phuket. So the whole process would be a lot quicker me being in Bangkok. I haven't gone to Bangkok. Um gone to my friend. My friend owns um

52:20 owned a coffee shop and a cannabis farm in in Bangkok. Um again, still at this point, I've not got a phone. So, I've not I've not contacted the friends to say, "Oh, I'm coming." Or sort of let them know. I'm just thinking, "Right, I'm going to turn up tell them sort of what's happened." And the end of the day, they're good friends of mine. I've been friends with them 20 20 plus years. They're not going to see me on the street sort of thing. I've gone to where I knew the shop was and it's closed. The shop's closed down. What am I going to do? I've got no way of contacting them. I'm now in Bangkok. I don't know a single person in in Bangkok. >> Where was the shop? Was it in Sukenvith? >> No, this was down on uh Ramapur. It was a bit more out the way um of central Bangkok. It was um it's like a ground

53:07 floor shop and then they had like sort of big facility where they had the cannabis farm and then they all lived inside it as well. Um it was like three of my mates all from Kent in England were all living there doing the business. They were one of the reasons why I decided to move to Thailand in the first place cuz they were already here doing the business and I decided to obviously come out and start my own thing in Phuket. I had a cannabis shop, they had a farm, they would supply my shop. It sort of be a bit win-win all of us working together. Obviously, I said I thought that they would still be there. They're not. I don't know where they are. There's no sort of information for them outside the shop. It's just closed. Um, looks like it's been closed for quite a while. Obviously, I've not I've not spoke to them in a in a few months

53:53 time. So, I don't know what their situation's been, whether they've lost lost the business or like the laws keep changing out there with the cannabis staff. So, I didn't know whether that's affected affected them. I didn't know what was going on. I'm now stuck in Bangkok again. I've not got anyone here. I've not got a phone, anything. Obviously, at this point, I've still got about 4,000 B in my pocket. So, I've ended up going down to I knew a hostel that was down near uh Kowan Road. Little cheap hostel there. It was like 300, no 175 B a night for a bed in like 12 12 room 12 people to one room hostel. Um so I end up going down there, booking that for five nights. Um so the first

54:41 night sort of spent outside sort of meeting the other people that were staying there sort of trying to form enough of a friendship that I could sort of start asking could I sorry could I use your borrow your phone I need to contact people I need I've got some issues here that I need to sort out luckily I befriended someone let me let me use their phone tried to get hold of my friend couldn't get hold of him um so I messaged my dad and said to my dad oh can you message my and ask for his number. Um, and basically I'll keep ringing you and see whether you've got hold of him cuz now I'm about 2 days away now from obviously not having this this room anymore. I'd been down to Cowan a couple nights had a few of the

55:27 cheap beers like get our buy 40 get one one free of the big big singers. So again now that 4,000 B is now completely gone. I'm now sort of back to back to square one again. Just waiting for for my dad to get paid and get that sort of 20 20,000 Bart to pay my fine at the airport and be able to go home or pay my fine at immigration, sorry, and be able to be able to go home. >> You have to go all the way back to Phuket again. >> No. Yeah, I can do this in in Bangkok. >> Okay. >> Um, so cuz I said the embassy, the British embassy was in Bangkok and then they've got the immigration in Bangkok as well. So obviously I I had the letter from immigration in Phuket basically saying that I'd gone there to

56:12 self-surrender. Um cuz otherwise if you don't self surrender you get you get banned for I think it's 5 years. Um whereas if you self surrender yourself it's only a one year ban. >> One year. Yeah. >> Um cuz I'd overstayed now at this point I'd overstayed around 100 Yeah. about 120 days at this point. So yeah, I'm just sort of thinking, right, I've got to get through. Um, few more days, I'll get this money, everything's all right. Couple days have come come past. Uh, I've ended up getting you just just over 20,000 B. So, I'm thinking, yeah, I'm all right. again just the way my my head is and being stuck in the thing. I'm now thinking actually I can either go home with 20,000 B or this is another month

56:59 of me trying to make something and trying to I don't know trying to save that last little last little >> So you had the 20,000 you thought like I'm going to try and see if I can make this work. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking I can maybe turn this 20,000 into something. Obviously I know I had a few contacts in cannabis industry. I was thinking, you know, I go and buy something with this 20,000. I can shift it around, do some things, sort of be a bit wheeling dealer for a couple of months and maybe try and make something again and know what I mean. If I still need to go home, I can go home. My situation doesn't change with and to pay the 20,000. It's only if they catch me. So again, I'm sort of on the run a little bit again now. But yeah, I'm thinking,

57:45 yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay stupidly. That was that was a point again I've made absolutely stupid shooting mistake. I'm thinking, right, yeah, 20,000 bar is it's a lot of money, but it's not a lot of money at the same time when you're used to a certain lifestyle. Again, I'm I've gone and booked booked a hotel for three nights, got somewhere. Again, I'm thinking, oh, I can I can now I've got 20,000 now. I've not got 5,000. So I can afford I can afford to get my own room now. I don't need to stay in a hostel like shoot little things like this and then thinking oh yeah I can go for a nice bit nice food tonight. So I went out for some nice food. I then ended up doing the thing. I'm going I'm now going down to Kan every night. Kanan is now my

58:32 new my new Bangler road. I'm now down on Kan every night uh conquer friends with these Burmese Burmese workers down in one of the bars down there. So I'll be going there every day drinking uh I'll do 10 to 15 big bottles of singer a day. >> I mean that that 20,000 is not going to last you long if you're going down that way. It's probably how how long did it last? A week. >> About a week. Yeah. Literally about a week. Yeah. I'm now back. I've now got I'm literally back to exactly how I was a week before. I'm now sitting there. Um, this is probably the darkest point for me out there. I did I did at this point try um I got drunk one night and basically

59:19 ended up trying to commit suicide. >> Jesus Christ. >> Um yeah, it's not saying no one no one knows about that. Obviously they will now. um family and that don't know about that. But um but yeah, you know the Korean drink, the soju. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I've got one of them. Um I'm sitting outside of 7-Eleven. I was in up in Ratchada in Bangkok. >> Ratcha. I lived there for 8 years. >> Okay. Yeah. I was I was down on Ratchada near um there was little hostel down there I used to stay. Um, so yeah, I was down there outside one of the 7-Elevens. It's near where the big like shopping mall was and the >> Yeah. You had the Lotus opposite >> the lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:05 >> Yeah. I was down by there outside one of the 7-Elevens. Um, I had a couple of bottles of soju and I was sitting out. I've drunk drunk both in back. I mean, sold are quite strong. They they knock you out for a bit or they can end up Yeah. And I ended up smashing the bottle on the floor. was took the glass and just opened up my wrist. I've not I didn't do it the way when some people think of that. You know, the way you do it where it's sort of attention seeking. Never actually going to do I've done it straight down and hit my hit my main my main vein in my wrist. >> You hit you hit your you hit your artery. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm now I'm now bleeding out. I got a massive scar on can't really see it anymore, but it starts here. >> See a bit. Yeah. >> Um Yeah. So

1:00:50 >> yeah, I've done that straight away. As soon as I've seen the amount of blood coming out, I'm now thinking um >> Well, just squirting out your arm, was it? >> Yeah. I didn't p punch the artery. I'd sort of I'd nicked it and gone right through it, but it was there's a lot of blood. Um at this point, I've still got my rucks sack with like some t-shirts and that in it. I've pulled it out. I wrapped a t-shirt around my hand um around my arm. I'm thinking again, I've got no medical insurance. I can't exactly go to hospital. I've got no money. I'm literally thinking at this point now thinking obviously no, I don't want to I don't want to commit suicide. That was stupid. But it's just at the point I'm I had nothing. I'm sitting in Rachard

1:01:35 outside the 7-Eleven with absolutely nothing. I'm about to sleep outside the 7-Eleven tonight. That was sort of what I was thinking. I just couldn't take it anymore. And then yeah, I'm basically laying on the ground. I had a big t-shirt wrapped around me around my arm. All of a sudden, this tuk tuk driver pulled up next to me basically come over to me sort of picked me up going like, "You okay? You okay?" I'm like, "No." Like showed him my wrist. He's then put me straight in the back of his to drove me to his house again. His house was on one of the Soyers on Rajada. One of the Soyers in Rajada was about 2 minutes away from where I was. He's end up driving to me house, gone in um straight away him and his wife were cleaning it, banding it, sort of doing it up. It was

1:02:20 it was big like it's about it's about that long. Um it's about four or five inches. So from there to there, but it's like that top bit there. That's the thick the bit that's quite thick. The rest of it wasn't wasn't bleeding too bad. So they sort of bandaged it up sort of he's asking like what you doing? like he speaks some English. His name was name was Duck. Um he speaks some English. Again, I've told him my story. Things like this sort of saying like look just just had enough. I just don't want to just want this sort of nightmare now to to end. I keep making shoot decisions. I just I need to go home. Um but I can't go home. But basically, and he was like, "Oh, asked

1:03:06 me what's my name. I was like, "Oh, Mark." He was, "Oh, my brother, my brother named Mark." My brother named Mark. I was like, "Okay." He was like, "You can stay with him. Him have condo um getting in near Rada. It wasn't too far from Rada." He was like him tuk tuk man as well. Him work tuk tuk. I was like, "Okay." Yeah. Like I was like, "If if he's okay, like yeah, thank you." Then he took me some for some food, got me some cigarettes, things like that. And he's like, "Oh." He's like, "Yeah, you

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