Brief Summary
This podcast episode explores the intricate details surrounding the "Monster of Florence" case, presenting a narrative enriched by the insights of Annamaria, a former nun who had direct interactions with key figures like Pacciani, and Andrea Stecco, a criminologist specializing in the case. They discuss various leads, including the Sardinian and esoteric tracks, and introduce a previously undisclosed document listing potential members of a sect connected to the murders. The episode also features Franca, a new witness, and a graphology expert who analyzes the document, adding layers of complexity to the investigation.
- Annamaria's experiences and insights into Pacciani's financial dealings and personality.
- Andrea Stecco's criminological analysis, focusing on the possibility of a sect involved in the murders.
- Introduction of a previously undisclosed document listing potential members of a sect connected to the murders.
intro e sigla
The episode begins with a prayer led by Annamaria, asking for guidance and truth in the discussion about to unfold regarding the "Monster of Florence" case.
chi è Anna Maria, ex suora
Annamaria shares her background as a former nun who spent 47 years in the church before leaving due to disagreements with the Catholic Church's doctrines. She worked in prisons, assisting inmates, driven by a desire to serve the marginalized. Annamaria recounts her initial work with a young man named Michele in Sollicciano prison in 1985, which led to her assisting many other inmates.
l’incontro con Pacciani
Annamaria met Pacciani in prison around 1987, after he was incarcerated for abusing his daughters. She had no prior knowledge of him. Her initial impression was neutral, as he primarily spoke about his daughters' accusations against him.
citofono e ADV Ford
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dettagli casalinghi
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i soldi di Pacciani
Annamaria recalls that Pacciani had significant funds, around 160 million lire, in postal bonds. She kept these bonds for him because he didn't trust the police to hold them, and the police didn't want to leave the money at his house due to his wife's mental condition. Vigna stated that the amount of money Pacciani had was not unusual for someone like him. Giuttari, however, had her house searched, believing she was hiding a larger sum. Annamaria explains that Pacciani earned his money through various jobs, including making bread in prison and managing his in-laws' pensions.
presentazione 2’ ospite
Andrea Stecco, a criminologist and jurist, is introduced. He has been working on the "Monster of Florence" case for years and has collaborated with Annamaria, combining her experiences with his academic research.
le varie piste del Mostro
Andrea discusses various leads in the "Monster of Florence" case, including the Sardinian track, which he dismisses as a red herring due to inconsistencies in the evidence. He finds the "lead of the water" more compelling, as it aligns with Annamaria's accounts. The investigation suggests the involvement of multiple individuals, possibly with a larger, hidden network facilitating their activities.
la Teoria dei 7
Andrea introduces the theory of a "team of death" consisting of seven individuals with different profiles but a common goal. This theory emerged from documents Annamaria has kept over the years, linking the case to esoteric practices.
obiettivi della Setta?
The discussion shifts to the objectives of this alleged sect, drawing parallels with the "Inchiesta Bis" (BIS Investigation) that explored esoteric leads, suggesting the acquisition of "trophies" or ritualistic items through paid killers.
il PM dell’Inchiesta BIS
The prosecutor from the BIS Investigation discusses the origins of the investigation, which began with the murder of Narducci in 2001. Narducci was suspected by locals to be the "Monster of Florence." The prosecutor recalls seeing Narducci shortly before his death, noting his suffering appearance and a scar near his eye.
Pacciani era uno dei 7?
Andrea believes Pacciani was merely an "incident" in the larger scheme, having known some members of the alleged team but not directly responsible for the murders. He points out inconsistencies in the evidence against Pacciani, such as the misplaced bullet and the mismatched items found at his property. Additionally, Pacciani's declining health in his later years makes it unlikely he could have committed the crimes. The circumstances surrounding Pacciani's death are also suspicious, with an autopsy revealing he had taken corticosteroids, which were not prescribed and were harmful given his existing conditions. A masonic apron was found with his body.
Rolf Reineke
Rolf Reineke, a German industrialist living in Prato, is mentioned. His second wife was involved in esoteric circles. Reineke had connections to individuals involved in the case, and he lived in an area where the bodies of two German victims were found in 1983. Reineke himself discovered the bodies but waited until the evening to alert the authorities.
la Lettera ritrovata
Annamaria is asked about tangible evidence that led her to believe the truth lies elsewhere. She presents a document that is new to Andrea. The document lists eight names, one of which is a title ("Duca") rather than a name, potentially indicating a role or position.
perito grafologo
The hosts plan to have the document examined by experts to verify its authenticity and age, which could significantly impact its credibility and relevance to the case.
Franca e le sue testimonianze
Franca, a new witness, is introduced. She became a prison volunteer in 1987, a few years after Annamaria. Franca's experiences provide a different perspective, as she moved in more affluent social circles. She attended dinners where disturbing events and conversations took place, and she was in contact with individuals whose names frequently appear in connection with the "Monster of Florence" case.
Franca visited Calamandrei's house and was disturbed by the macabre paintings she saw, depicting people impaled and bleeding. She also described a mannequin at the bottom of a staircase, punctured with what appeared to be weapon marks and bloodstains. Franca never spoke to the police because she received threats against her son.
perché c’è quel nome?
Franca recounts a disturbing comment made by a man at one of these gatherings, who expressed a preference for "meat with blood."
lettura nomi
The hosts prepare to read the names listed in the document, emphasizing that any involvement is yet to be proven.
falso finale
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prima analisi del perito
Professor Giovanni Bottiroli, an expert in forensic analysis of documents, provides an initial assessment of the document. He notes that the paper appears old and the printing method suggests it was produced in series, consistent with forms used before the introduction of VAT in 1973. Chemical tests indicate the paper does not contain carbonite, suggesting it predates the mid-1990s. The ink migration on the paper's reverse side suggests the writing is decades old.
reazione del PM al documento
Based on his analysis, Professor Bottiroli believes the document is likely from before 2000, possibly even earlier. He confirms there is no indication it was recently created.
fine volume 1
The episode concludes with the revelation that the document contains the name of a person of interest. The name only surfaced in the investigation between 2017 and 2018. The hosts emphasize the importance of further investigation to determine the document's authenticity and its implications for the case.
