Pokemon: Gotta Watch 'Em All! | Pokemon 2000: The Power of One | Pokemon Movie Podcast

0:00 [Music] what is up guys cjd back and welcome back to pokemon gotta watch them all we are on the second episode and today we are talking about pokemon 2000 i am here with the crew dante chris and princeton we are going to be going in and talking

0:46 about pokemon 2000. if you missed last week we did pokemon the first movie mewtwo strikes back you okay over there i'm doing the email i can see i can see he's not even in this video i know i'm excited i choose you because he plays a big role like but we got like 10 years for that boy that's right today we are looking at the second pokemon movie pokemon 2000 the power of one now we mentioned last week this is chris and i's favorite movie currently and to counteract that it is john's like it's your least favorite yes no no no my least favorite is the uh me too and jenna second movie okay uh this is second okay but second least favorite okay but i don't hate it like i'll watch it [ __ ] on the way over here he's like

1:32 y'all [ __ ] hate no no no like out of all movies if they're if you give them to me and you're like hey you can watch all these i will watch this one okay yeah i got you i got you uh let's see i think well last time we ranked uh mewtwo uh strikes back at number one because well it's the only one we had so after we go through the synopsis today and talk about this movie we'll decide if it's better or worse than mewtwo strikes back and then of course we have the fun poll which again if you guys remember uh last episode we said you'll get it every two episodes based on the way we're recording uh so you'll see the results for the first and second polls in episode three and then three and four and five and so on and so forth subsequently so make sure you're following my twitter for those polls but um first thoughts how do you like pokemon

2:18 2000. so one thing i do like about this movie oh here we go no no i don't want to be negative so i'm saying things that i like i'm starting with the good stuff before i uh like a [ __ ] chicken okay um the music uh in here was actually really good um oh my gosh yeah the second here was better than gen y or gemini it was better than the first movie because they knew how to set the tone they're not dealing with a darker tone like with mewtwo yeah they have a whole film now that they can say all right happy music here adventure music here and like really [ __ ] dark music over here yeah and i think the music in this one was way better uh re-watching this knowing how much i [ __ ] hate this movie the music made it a lot easier i was like oh [ __ ] okay like right from the beginning they hate you with like you know yeah then you're saying it's pretty neat all right all right that's the most positive it's

3:04 gonna get huh yeah but there's one more positive but until we get to it cool uh in my opinion like the first when when we went back and watched the first movie uh i was really interesting i was like wow it's really interesting to have a new take on this uh this movie has not fared as well i i will preface that i don't i don't hate this movie yeah i just like i think i was a lot more excited to watch this movie as a kid and then as adult i was kind of i'm just kind of like huh it didn't have the same impact the interest didn't have the same impact even even with some nostalgia there because i love lugia yeah lugia is the one that i would pick out of the the two birds yeah and uh it was awesome to see that it had a

3:50 movie but yeah going back and going back to this movie i'm just kind of like oh wow it didn't quite hit it as as well this is also the first gen 2 movie which i feel like kind of important to bring which is also like a weird spot because it's technically a gen 2 movie with like two gen 2 pokemon because it's orange island so you can't really get there because that would technically be uh three as our first real jota but yeah yeah same same difference uh chris tell me you you like the movie yeah so like like just rewatching like like like ash's like adventure going to like all the islands yeah like it's still like it felt fun okay and like like i remember like as a kid like i thought it was like like the hypest thing ever seeing how like he got to like like how like he handled like they seemed like like the birds and i'm like

4:35 oh i caught that zapdos and like just seeing things like that like it was like just really really neat to just see and because i watch this phone with my niece she absolutely loved it uh lugia was her favorite part of the whole thing but yeah no she she loved it just as much as i did so it's nice to see like that sense of kind of like amazement is awesome see which one she's like i'm not paying attention she's playing something else she'd rather play on the switch and just kind of be like what's a kid think right now what's the good thing of this movie um yeah i watched that check the very first time she saw lugia she got hyped for it and she was like that's my favorite like i get it music the way that like it builds up to it right yeah because it was articuno

5:21 but then like it's because she loved that like watching aracuna use ice beam but then the second luna pod like all bets were off it was all about lugia that's amazing um so go to this one i don't have any financial stuff like that for this one i didn't take the time to look i don't think it was that relevant but let's get into the plot so we open up in the middle of the ocean with that majestic ass [ __ ] lugia's theme i [ __ ] love this song so damn much it sounds like something out of monster hunter yeah that theme like yeah if you were if you grabbed one of the other gods and you put this theme into it you're gonna be like oh [ __ ] oh okay what's going on i see it also i want to take a moment to rage for a second oh no okay so not not anything bad about the movie but per se it's just

6:07 okay so you're telling me lugia makes whale noises it is not a water type so he's actually never uh i was gonna say this for later but yeah they never tell you louise type in this movie they do not which is why because like i was thinking about it um until like we started doing soul like i knew he wasn't a water type but it really hit when i was like he's a psychic flying type well it's because his gimmick is water like his game is that he swims can be stuff you see but like not like with the way that the plot goes which let me tell you how [ __ ] up i was as a kid too because they might well i i water types were like my favorite there's one trainer i would have been as a kid it would have been water yeah how [ __ ] up i was that when i caught

6:52 caught lukey i was like it's not water it's psychic flying yeah it's soft i think that it's even more confusing what has been like aeroblast because yeah that's a combination of water and wind so if they ever redo the move they can do the fine press thing or like it's both yeah and it can but yeah like they never tell you it's typing throughout the whole movie you're just kind of like left there to kind of like to assume assume like uh like okay uh i thought that was very interesting because it's kind of weird to have a pokemon because when mewtwo was like yeah he's like he's like like right away yeah but when i was like because there's one because i was i was going to bring it up it happens later because we'll cross that bridge

7:37 when we get to it but it's when lugia is interacting with the three other birds there's something he does that that does that i like i understand the psychic typing it's just i feel you still could have gave this pokemon psychic type moves i think water just fits it better so i think the problem here is that they but we might be getting off topics i just wanted to raise about this we're talking about lugia after the success of having mewtwo being a psychic type i think that for plot conveniences they're like let's just make him a psychic type yeah which ultimately i mean lugia is a really strong pokemon and when you're comparing it to you know ho ho eric i think we all picked luke yeah did anybody pick ho ho no when they play the game or joke silver all the way down

8:23 because everybody else is going to say i'm not going to do that is my favorite gem the unfortunate thing is um i for some reason thought it was a good idea as a as a young impressionable impressionable child to trade my uh silver copy away and so then eventually i got gold so i owned both i did actually i'm good with copies but lugia is my favorite okay great this um so yeah so the movie starts we got the beautiful majestic whale noises and the music in the background and we hear the monologue of slow king sorry spoilers the monologue of some deep voiced man give us the uh the basically the the simple plot of the movie disturb not the harmony of fire ice or lightning lest these titans wreak destruction upon

9:08 the world in which they clash though the water's great guardian shall arise to quell the fighting a loan it song will fail this thus the world shall turn to ash which double meaning will get there then but um yeah i love this is almost as uh i don't think it hits as hard as you two think that's more like a life thing i suppose this is like a storytelling element yeah the world will the world will talk will turn to ash i was like that's a little on those yeah she's a kid when you say the word ash it's like oh the character yeah so there's two things uh right here uh one sounds so positive and i have two negatives um i think they went too hard with the plot for this okay i think the plot for this went way too hard like with mewtwo it's like

9:54 collected in an area and it was implied that it can go further correct but here it's like right away you're hit like holy [ __ ] the whole world yeah uh two i hate movies when the prophecy is so vague like okay they're like a guy with a hat's gonna walk in and save the world the main character has a hat walks in and i hated the ash thing uh yeah uh that didn't vibe with me i was like now when i watched it the first time i was a little kid i was like oh yeah like like you said you're like yeah but as i got older when i was in high school and i re-watched that movie i was like really like that's so basic uh but uh and the positive is i say kid though i didn't care yeah sure so like i want to put that out there like i say kid i didn't grasp it like how

10:40 cliche that was it wasn't also a teenager and i was like that's kind of lame like i i i agree with that i i don't think i grasped it quite as well as i did as a kid in terms of like how on the news it is um from what i remember because i remember people talking about this movie this uh this particular quote is completely different in japanese yeah oh is it yeah and only that but the the uh the prophecy kind of foreshadows the whole movie yeah if you if you read the prophecy again if you're older and you're reading the prophecy you're like oh yeah like here's what it basically tells you what's gonna happen when you're a kid like i was when i watched it i didn't [ __ ] know i said oh it's weird it has such a steam words like thus and less like i don't know what those are yeah pokemon because one of like the only things that i don't

11:26 like is when they talk about prophecies because then that's like because then then you know for like like any interaction between people that's the only dialogue getting brought up because everybody says well the prophecy said this well the prophecy said that prophecy prophecy prophecy they keep harping on about it so hard yeah that it's like can we just get like the rest because you're going negative keep going damn um y'all trying to place me out this movie okay uh so i will say this and this this is not with the movie but i wrote what water profits you have to be so vague as well if the apocalypse was to happen you'll think the instructions would be clear like hey there's a 10 year old named ash he's going to come with a pikachu uh he wears like a denim jacket uh he has misty there's gonna be a girl making

12:12 misty red hair do you think that these prophecies will be a lot more specific uh especially because you know it's the end of the world yeah but that has nothing to do with the movie i just bring that up sure which there's another point of the prophecy that i'll bring up later is when we cross that bridge we'll get to it cool uh here we introduce to our villain in the movie lawrence iii who i think arguably is like the best movie villain better than thanos i think shut the [ __ ] up that's like he's never named the movie he is not yeah again a sarah just like this my sophie i asked me what the guy's name was i was like i don't remember everything from ceremony and that's one of those things i'm like how did they like where did they get the info because obviously the movie is they just made something like spoiler alert you don't need to know who he is

12:57 because it doesn't matter it's because of the voice acting they have to give the character sure they can't just say like and you know yeah well technically no you can be guy one guy too yeah but if but if you're a prominent figure in the movie you should have it um yeah at this point we're introduced to him he's a collector and he's like i like to collect he doesn't specify he just likes to collect [ __ ] he's like i like to collect things i were introduced to this mew card which he has it's the first time he's like this is the first thing in my collection and from here it's grown and now he's like i'm gonna collect pokemon but not the normal way so he's got these cage devices that he launches out of his super strange weird airplane yeah when i was a kid and i first saw that the it like just like the way they animated that to show the scope of it

13:43 it's interesting i thought it was like impressive as yeah like even while i'm like that is like that animation felt so far ahead of its time it's growing i i i agree with you when i was kid i was totally enamored by that like that set piece and i also also was really really involved with his like little chess board he had and i was like yeah that's really really cool that was like cool so the whole thing was being held up by propellers that were going like oh no yeah although now nowadays i look at that thing i'm like that thing looks [ __ ] stupid it's like it's too complicated like what the [ __ ] is going on with it

14:29 so i still like the design of it i'm like functionally i don't think that makes any sense yeah but also it's going to be why does it exist the way that it does like i feel like it's it's too much detail for something that is maybe on the screen five minutes i feel like they did that intentionally though to be like yes this is the antagonist that's going to be moving against everything yeah because there's like just seemed like the way it was designed and seeing like the way it was on the inside like it really felt like like everything pointed towards this is the guy you need to worry about yeah it's not a pokemon thing pokemon trainers do that already yeah like that's trends you collect pokemon yeah so like i get he went a little extreme like it's not that bad so like i get that he's a collector

15:14 right um are we under the impression that this guy like shows off like he has like a museum of some sort who is funding this he's got the money somewhere no no no no no no no yes and he sold it to be able to make the money that he he got a fortune apparently these uh these cards were rare that's only if you watch the japanese version though interesting uh they tell you when he's giving the explanation of the card okay the card so i don't care how all his blood is what that view card is he's got technology that doesn't exist yet homie got a smart watch in the [ __ ] like beats pills somewhere in there like i have it because it's funny because like i've always been under the interpretation

16:00 that he was going to use that as like a mobile like museum so he could go across and show off his collection things like that yeah i was under the impression he has he had a museum but like he never brings it up so like i mean it's a fair question because again like like he's just like a character that's like hey i'm here because plot like if plot did not demand i would not like there's no purpose to me being here outside of what i want so i i totally get that we do not know enough about him yeah i think i think it's more of one of those things where uh let's keep in mind that this was created for a smaller audience so like none of us thought about this when we were younger so like now that we're watching like hell with those guys keeping all this [ __ ] yeah but i think at the time like and that's the beauty about like

16:46 i guess working on a like not a kid's show but like a show that's geared towards kids is you can you can get rid of all these plot holes that you're like they don't [ __ ] [ __ ] them it's not going to be 20 20 with a bunch of [ __ ] 20-somethings sitting around the table talking about our movies um yeah let me see let me catch up here so yeah lawrence is like my next collection the three birds so i can get the ultimate prize the beast of the sea which well he said titans yes the titans which is very obvious that they didn't go out they didn't sugarcoat this if you were a kid and you didn't know he was talking about the legendary birds something's wrong because they made it very obvious that it was a legendary yeah i guess yeah i guess since the uh the titan pokemon didn't exist yet yeah i was just about to say for any new players that go back

17:32 to washi's movies they're gonna they're gonna be a long time they're talking about reggie's minus all the explosions and heartbreaks but they're gonna think because all the legendary titans and then they're gonna see that they're big but that's that's not what that means there's not um um yeah homeboy is like cool i got this cage hey moltres come here electrocutes it captures it puts it in a whole title card which i still think that's the whole uh the ice the fire island yeah gets frozen yeah fire time it's a little mixed up tomato fire i think it was more so just to like my general idea with that was that he

18:17 was using another bird's power to piss yeah yeah so they say oh hey it's articuno stepping on your territory exactly oh articuno turned into a big ferris wheel like it's holding this whole movie isis worthless unless you're going to get a fire truck basically because that like the way they use a lot of ice in this movie but it never works it gets broken and someone falls through it yeah yeah i think it was a very smart thing to start with mold trace because out of the three i really feel like mole trace is the le is like the least hyped one because i've never once heard somebody say out minus the gallerian variance somebody say mole trace what's your favorite i only overhear zapdos i never hear mole trade so i feel like right there actually it was smart because they're like let's take the one that we can't that no one's going to be really

19:03 the last marketable one and let's just include the other two later because it's hard it's hard to work with fire because like well electricity you do the sound that works the charger and with the eyes you can make everything blue but then you have like fire how many fire types have we seen we have one and the team and after scene so it's like we're just going to do the same thing that this one can do yeah but what's up those even though actually speaking to you when satos flaps his wings you see the little area of effect yeah i think that's why like the other two are easier to work with than yeah the chicken bird or the chicken holes with like a scaling um so yeah now we cut to our heroes ash misty and bro wait a second this isn't brock this is that [ __ ] tracy kid [ __ ]

19:49 tracy do you guys know what the switch happened was that why like the character because they thought tracy was going to be more appealing over here right yeah uh so they thought that i'm just writing so because of brock's dark skin they removed brock because they thought that like the audience will find it like offensive to have brock which i feel like that's the opposite because you're being like uh what's it called um segregative no i forgot the word i'm looking for but essentially they thought that having a uh a purely white cast would be ideal yeah yeah so they they basically remove brock and then put tracy while the people hate it tracy i remember i didn't hate tracy but i was like brock brock hit differently tracy felt like he was just there see it because it really annoyed me because like he was

20:35 like correct me if i'm wrong because again like like like gen one like ice like that's where like i stopped because the guy moved up here or whatever but but there's like the whole thing where tracy's thing was he was an artist and he just wanted to draw like his whole thing was i don't want to battle i just want to sketch and build bombs which you don't really see in in this well his whole game is like he does the sketches that he sends them to professor research which is his like gymnast this is my pokedex but the way he did it was it wasn't like oh here's squirtle he'll weigh and since squirtle did something that was natural to squirt over like eating or swimming and then he'll draw that scene yeah the problem is is that the anime like people like brock moore and like a lot of people complain and like tracy's just running like hey

21:20 guys i gotta go like brock just comes back to the story like nothing ever happened so that's why he was removed from the story it was a bad move from them in my opinion because i think that brock is very iconic and i think he's one of like he is like he is team ash and like like i definitely think it was like definitely like beneficial because like it felt nice having ash who really just kind of just w keyed and it was just like yeah no i don't care go what is that it was nice having two gym leaders with them so that way they could help explain things to the younger audience as to like why that's not necessarily a good idea but because anime ash has them i think it works so tracy had two badass pokemon that he nor used

22:05 yeah that's not cool also i just want to point out like the old man scyther that tracy's got was like [ __ ] i noticed that there's like a plot to it or just like if he literally just has an old scythe there but i [ __ ] love it anybody like saves the better net from the storm by like not but like i got you buddy like like yeah yep that was cool um yeah the team's like hey we're sailing to somewhere in the orange islands we might as well let our pokemon out and then we get that badass remix of the pokemon world theme which you [ __ ] love that's part of me it's the only redeemable part of the film no i absolutely i love it and it's one of those ones i always forget exists until it plays like and then we have like lapras is like the highlight for me in that yeah it's so happy and like it starts flapping and then it's like yeah it's like i love it don't get used to it that's the only time it appears yeah

22:50 basically unfortunately sadly even though we had to swim across so much water why bring the lappers on i don't know um yeah so the storm kicks up our team's like what's going on we gotta get to the island they get knocked off course and end up on a separate island called i wrote it down it's [ __ ] um so they're getting set off course marin they're their pilot who i would okay yep she's there's like violet and then there's like merit oh marin's it's merit something dude i get it i feel something there um but yeah and then in there there's a fun little joke team rocket's following him gets hit by a rock and jesse makes a joke about having carp insurance because they have a little submarine i thought it was [ __ ] funny i like that joke

23:38 um but let's see we uh after they're in this little coffinness issue of getting slammed around by the storm we got to cut to uh ash's house where mom and professor oak are kind of hanging out like hey what's going on and the storm comes in obviously he was showing up for like his weekly bang session like that's what was about to happen um but this is where we start to see like all the pokemon well leading into this we see pikachu having his only like single titanic moment on the front of the boat just like pissed off about something like we don't know he's just like staring off pikachu woke up and decided to take that so there's there's a thing that i what i got from that is that pikachu's aware of the changes to the climate yeah because of maltress which i'm like

24:23 or zapdos or yeah it was one of them and i was like how does he know that and no other pokemon like what special ability skill i'm assuming it's just the main pokemon out first i i did look up um lapras was used in every single episode of the orange islands yeah every single episode to travel it makes sense they sell them who needs that we got a boat and a piece of metal because yeah because professor oak was on his bike right and yes yeah because that got stolen by digless and then like it was just something like what's wrong with all the pokemon because like you see like like all like the pidgeot everybody in the family like they're all like flying like the same thing the digletts are going the same way

25:09 and they're just like what i just want to know why mr mom just didn't go yeah no [ __ ] this i'm not being here right now these are like every pokemon that mister mine didn't give off assuming it became a wild pokemon thing because obviously mr mine freaked out grabbed the umbrella it was like i'm worried um but i soon became more of a i'm a tamed pokemon so i'm not going anywhere he was domesticated yeah but all these wild pokemon have somewhere to be they have something they need to do right to save their world and i guess that was just kind of the way i looked at it this is the movie where we talked about on the card the first time they ever announced that ashley's

25:55 we meet uh we get ivy's name oak's name and ash's mom's name for the first time i completely forgot about ivy by the way yeah right i'm gonna bring that out she's so [ __ ] hot so i was just like wait a minute we've had professor ivy the purple hair we've had a female professor all this time yeah for juniper that's fine but juniper though so that's yeah she's not well cynthia anyways yeah fair she's not a professor yeah um she is that she can teach me um yeah come back to the island hey our team's land they're safe we're good oh my god and a bunch of tribal people with some bird mash like hey what's going on here and they're like i think we're gonna die oh but no you're a pokemon trainer

26:40 amazing we're just getting ready to start our traditional annual ceremony of the the three titans that we need our hero to save and it's all just a legend it's a fun thing that we do to celebrate not knowing it's about to become some real [ __ ] right but uh so by the way quick quick aside on this there is a chieftain the the the chieftain i was like that's danny's outfit it's all blue and i'm like i thought it was yes um so yeah we are introduced to melanie so we have the one girl i don't know if they gave us a name but she's typically

27:27 the island princess for the ceremony but she's getting too old so now her little sister melody who's got a thing for ash and just wants to make misty jealous it's like you know what let's have some fun with this it's ash first kiss uh what a man i think so you might have had another like kiss cheek somewhere along the way i don't know but it's uh yeah but either way misty's like whatever i'm not jealous i'm not his girlfriend i'm not a sister i'm just i'm a friend i'm a girl like let's play with this the entire movie did you yeah which got annoying uh did you catch that she says misty's name but she doesn't hear any of them are you his sister no then are you his

28:14 girlfriend ill no oh and misty tonight try not to get jealous all right nobody knows she's chucking in her head she's a psychic type i was like wow that's weird none of them have said their names yet besides yeah because it was just who are you because like the cat in the boat said her name and then ash goes yeah i'm ash i'm a pokemon trainer and then like everyone's like [ __ ] everybody else you just want this one uh so the villagers island is like let's have a celebration tonight's the ultimate dinner for the chosen one which is now ash uh they go off they celebrate there's some cool like gyarados puppets and stuff on the street it's weird seeing the pokemon world before what we know of it now right and what

28:59 you mean because like there's a whole bunch of fruit yeah and they're not berries oh they're right yeah okay that's fair so during this party scene uh so this is weird because you have like they're dressed as aztec warriors yeah but they you scared us as a chinese dragon yeah which is a chinese thing and then the aztec warrior thing yeah i took it as i said all the cops were the birds yeah zapdos mulches just and the island has like very hawaii theme yeah so it's like they just a lola before yeah so they grabbed like it's cool that they basically made a multicultural like island what you have like you'll never see a chinese dragon like in like in pokemon in pokemon but like they grabbed that

29:44 and they still have like aztec outfits and wore those i thought that was pretty yeah nowadays i would think that everything on that island if they were to do this movie now would everything would be would be it would be obviously pokemon yeah so yeah uh next we cut to the dinner where we get a nice little conversation with marin and a couple other people saying and then she said no but i have crabbies obviously setting up that there are stds in the pokemon universe yeah of course so did we need that line yes i i it was great because as a kid obviously you know a [ __ ] yeah and then i heard it i'm like wait she says the thing oh yeah

30:33 they made those kind of jokes because they needed the adults to have some fun because if they're going to have to sit there because their kid wants to wan want a mommy day brain moves they got to give them something yeah that's funny sex there's another one that i want to talk about when they say the word sex because i as a kid that [ __ ] threw my mind but then like oh never mind the context makes more sense um so ashley's sitting here he's like oh it's dinner time but i'm hype i want to do this chosen one [ __ ] missy's like shut the [ __ ] up i'm just i'm so pissed off about this other girl who then melanie pops out plays the majestic loopy song again and we're all going in time what's that with dawg this is the first time i was introduced to the ocarina i never played yeah so there's that yeah say i saw this like twisty thing but it threw me because the ocarina in zelda was just a stationary it's a sweet

31:19 potato ceramic there's different types of but yeah and then the only time i've ever seen that rotating one is in pokemon 2000 i've never seen it otherwise like outside of the 2000 context so i'm sure it exists i've just never seen it so before the smelling made the uh comment how people die yes most of them make them back yeah so like and actually okay sounds good once again that reckless trainer trainer mentality but as we learned from the last movie that's what sets them apart that's what they're here to do uh so melody explains the story she gives them the fruit hey you're gonna go to three islands collect three orbs bring them back i play the song grand finale actually like quick quick quick quick quick and sweet like

32:06 sweet quickly let's get started and they're like enjoy the party and then there is like no ash i like your height let's [ __ ] get out there so marin takes your boat they fly out to the fly um so they basically say [ __ ] physics but go ahead yes um so they start going and then immediately a storm starts uh ash and marin are like kind of dying in a boat and then melody misty and tracy are like might as well go stable i guess with our magic boat which right now is still a normal boat but will become magic which i will say just quickly for reference yeah while they were doing like the whole thing they're they're they're like you need a boat that can do this and they're they're actually like oh i don't have one

32:53 lapras who's made for these kind of water now earlier in the film just having a good time just swimming just i don't have a boat that always cries every time um she has to say on the island they make it safely but obviously a rest of our characters don't know that so they hop in a boat and we have that second third exchange about ash being the boyfriend and missing like he's my friend i'm a girl but we're not boyfriend and then tracy well she gets mad that that rumor is going around yeah and it's like but you do like ash so why are you mad that they're spreading a rumor [ __ ] you watch this it's the typical like girl thing that was i'm saying ash belongs to serena now so missy lost her [ __ ] chance sure she's [ __ ] around for two or four [ __ ] seasons or something um but then miss uh tracy has his little

33:38 like oh you guys talking about me [ __ ] tracy that's like the one thing tracy does in this movie and i love it i hate him that he did that anymore i like how i like probably just melody missed you running and then he just comes down to work oh he's talking about me you're saying oh you guys talking about me like my boy got so hyped he thinks finally my time has come someone's talking about that finally uh we get a little more exposition king king lawrence lawrence iii is after zapdos he's tracking him down but he's like oh i'm gonna find him soon um we get a phone call between professor oak and ivy talking about the pokemon are going crazy what do we do let's get the helicopter and fly out somewhere um why professors they gotta figure it out right we have to well because i think i think that was all by like ash's mom like watching things and she's like

34:26 orange that's where my boy is yeah i gotta go to the okay we gotta go right now what's that it's affecting the whole world it's so it implied he's somewhere with his clones being saved dude why didn't youtube not come in grab this guy and said that easily i'm just confused he could have came here [Music] again i'll just erase their memories you still need doctor who yeah the sonic screwdriver he just has a spoon um ash is on the is on fire island he's like time to get my first org uh going up like 13 million dragon balls

35:13 the dragon ball sorry my bad i'm in trouble actually collecting the dragon balls he's got to get the fire dragon ball uh walks up the 13 million stairs uh pikachu is like yeah i'm still pissed about something so i might as well go too uh and then marin's ship is like jammed in between the rocks like i guess i'll just drink some coffee while i see that i'm not walking up those stairs i love her use of just that like that brief moment of just down time jason i'll chill nope i'm just gonna [ __ ] relax we're gonna sit back um and at this point the melody uh misty and tracy ship get stuck on the rock like oh no we gotta get up to ash we got this our ship can all of a sudden fly worst flying boat ever i thought i hated the flying castle in

35:58 this movie no this [ __ ] was was white worse they whip out the sail and just start flying up these stairs so it's not the rhythm right this is not the flight it's the stairs because the thing i like is they're completely just on land like there's no way they can get around it and then melee's just like oh wait no i got this and then his pulley system boat gets lifted with three human beings on there with pokemon which means which also means that this is not the first time that melody has done this she knows how to she knows how to fly on land uh ash makes it to the top of the stairs gets the orb he's like let's go back to the second one

36:44 team rocket shows up they start their monologue ash he makes some comment about like i'll have to catch this on tape i don't have time for the live performance it was great it was funny and they're like oh [ __ ] you kid you're not getting away and then of course the magic boat comes in basically kills team rocket but just push them to the side um team reunites oh my god we miss you and they make another comment about boyfriend girlfriend stuff nobody's worried about getting the boat out of there because they they now are stuck because they have no stairs there's no no you know what um but this is where jessie makes their mark after the whole boyfriend girlfriend thing she's like once you get involved with the opposite sex it gets weird as a kid i only heard the word sex i'm like they can't say that whoa they said and then meowth goes and he's like well you guys don't have to worry about the opposite sex because you have

37:29 each other and it's like so this movie confirms rocket shipping there's a lot of people uh team rocket together and this will meow just [ __ ] yeah jesse just confirmed that those two are [ __ ] yeah that's essentially what it makes sense lucky james dude lucky guy uh let's see after that blah blah blah boat they're all freaking out having a conversation and then i'm behind a rock just zapdos like hey guys i'm here so actually who sucked it was without using the pokedex this [ __ ] uses the pokedex on his own pokemon i had that a mess too i was going to bring it up i'm like how do you know that first it's a legendary bird and we know you're [ __ ] you use the pokedex your opponent will have like a pikachu and

38:14 he's like what's that i've never seen that yeah do you think they're because like most of the time through like productions like this they do a lot of like stuff like deleted scenes and they go through things and they cut just to save time do you think that was something they had a scene where ash did bust it out go what's that though they they didn't have ash pull out the pokedex at all no i think the only time you really should have would have been don fan he's like ah bulbs or kill it i don't know i'll take a picture but yeah so they he knew what it was which was kind of weird uh i just i'm like he used

39:00 to he's a pokedex on richie's charmeleon knowing full well this [ __ ] had charged arms yeah he still pulled out pokedex on a charmeleon so it's like so i was like all right it might be an update you know who subtle says maybe you read it in my space somebody posted about it or something but no no no see i can defend ash and ash in that instance because i did ask if a shinodic was i fully well knew that it was a grass ferry but what typing what what's its primary saws grass and i kept the gold out yeah rest in peace goes to boys um zapdos flies in starts electrocuting some [ __ ] everything turns blue i didn't really question it i thought it looks cool um and then pikachu starts using like thunderbolt everyone's like oh it's about to fight it's like no they're talking they talk through what's your health is fluent in

39:45 you pokemon and electricity which makes no sense because well before that the alpha was already translating yeah so it was like oh so saptos doesn't have to do we don't have to have this weird sexual charge scene we don't have to have dragon sex essentially this is zapdos can just screech uh yeah pikachu's like hey so why are you here where's maltrace is zapdos like maltrace is [ __ ] gone i own fire island now okay okay okay can i can i bring this up for the first time yes podcast yes zapdos is the true villain of this movie okay not not not lawrence the third that is like i own the island yeah exactly this is this is the first this is the first note that he's the true villain of the movie we'll get to the next part

40:31 it's fair okay i like it i like where this is going um so in the middle of this conversation lauren shows up he's like oh time to catch zapdos he sets out his cage again zapdos is fighting back and the team's just like wow this is this is a cool show obviously not paying the [ __ ] attention they get captured their own little cage sucked into the big old ferris wheel airship then we catch zapdos also get sucked in and now our team and two of the three birds are captured by lawrence and we talked about this in the car this is where one of the plots like the the writers are like so uh oh i don't have to pull it off but okay um it says that saptos absorbs electricity from mechanisms around sometimes even the air the electric currents in the air so septos got drained

41:18 from his electric powers this dumb [ __ ] decided to use a electrical trap on a pokemon who can absorb electricity which in theory the trap won't have worked but i mean it did right i mean we noticed that that golem got taken down by thunderbolt so like anything in the anime pokemon world is like physically possible this is where i start it's from this point where i hate the movie yeah from this point forward i was like okay that's a little weird so you just said something that triggers my trap card which is uh now they're in the the little ferris wheel like [ __ ] [ __ ] thing and that collection of birds yep and this guy knows that he's putting these antagonists for him

42:03 with two birds right yeah it's gonna [ __ ] happen yeah okay i make the point i say in here it's it makes the least amount of sense because if they had a way to break out sure but homeboy's just like oh i see i've caught something else opens the cage oh i gotta get articuno and then just let somebody yeah so that is pretty [ __ ] up one track mine although again this is where the just in case you forgot who the antagonist is as he's descending and you can see the the ceiling art above him no it's like like the vatican yeah and it doesn't like the angels and [ __ ] just in case you forgot imagery um i wanted to point out like the polar opposites we have these two birds i assume moltres is just [ __ ] exhausted because he's already fought but zapdos is like i'm just gonna keep

42:50 screaming and screaming and moltres is like dawg shut the [ __ ] up i'm tired shut up so the scene when he leaves on the elevator it's the same scene they used in the beginning of the movie but they reversed it for budget reasons yeah go back and look at it notice that it's just the reverse scene no no for budget reasons i didn't even i see i'm just i'm so engrossed in how much i love this movie and i was just like by the way this [ __ ] why oh um well let me see here here's where he kind of goes he's like i'm a collector i collect things like you're kind of an [ __ ] he's like let me live my life uh fun fact the mew card in question is the first time that we've ever seen proof of the pokemon cards in the pokemon universe and i'm pretty sure it's the last i put last i don't know that for a fact

43:37 it might be an updated statement which i'm going to bring later but like the whole thing is i like how pretty much he's just the entirety of the pokemon community of just catching things and then just putting it in a box and then never touching it another another situation where we have now the collectors like well it's not shiny hunting per se versus the just the people that play the game by the way with the tagline like gotta catch them all which is also said kind of in the anime to some degree like every pokemon trainer wants to catch everything to fill up their pokedex whatever can you blame the guy it's a lot harder to get everything if i don't have big old cages it's just a lot easier i don't have the real estate to uh pay

44:23 for pcs i mean i know he's kind of an [ __ ] but like isn't is it collecting all the pokemon like something that some trainers want to he's using his head he's thinking he's like that's how we do it but aside from that the mew card was also a promo for anyone who bought a ticket to the movie in the first week if you went to buy a ticket after the first week you got a random selected zapdos multitrace or articuno card cool little box i remember i had all four cards don't have a single one of them anymore but i did have them all up two out of three ooh nice okay how many do you have nothing uh i story for another time okay um yeah here lawrence lets him out of the cage why no [ __ ] clue he just did goes to get articuno uh some strange

45:09 things happening occurring there's a giant [ __ ] across the globe let me see here well miss where i'm at here we go the pokemon are all the wild pokemon like it's time to get out here let's let's get involved in whatever the [ __ ] happening in these islands um we have a bunch of pokemon that can't make it any further because like i'm a venus or i'm an addict i can't walk through water but then we have our flying type pokemon and our water pokemon we're flying and swimming and in this scene you get introduced to some of your favorite water types like blastoise we got very sidra and atkins he's my favorite water type pokemon um he's an orange berry he says an army like a tongue is always also in there too is he i thought it was a slow bro it was like

45:55 or slow poke and i was like no that's like a time huh that's i rebound that scene multiple times because also with the flying pokemon they're like all the other pokemon that are landlocked they can't get over there meanwhile while they're showing the pokemon their landlocked there are zubats just sitting right there and they're like it's like wait a minute hang on so you tell me butterfrees can cross the ocean they can't but a zuma can't they don't have ice and they use sonar trust me sonar doesn't [ __ ] work right now you're telling me a butterfly can cross the ocean to another island and be okay but a gold bat and a zoo [ __ ] sea but the gold the gobat was there it had gold yes bats are known to not be able to see they know they bats have sight

46:41 but it's bad it's not it's not as bad as what you think i just watched a video on that i don't know i don't know i just know sue west has no eyes unless you believe like the the fan theory that those are his eyes and not his teeth i don't believe that but i think it's funny when i see it but he's got like a mask going on it's just like two little eyes but um here we go with the point earlier now we cut into the helicopter where it's like now we're seeing oh ivy and ash's mom kind of tell the story of what we're doing oak's just like hey so big storms happening uh fire and ice were kind of having a thing and electric got involved which created the beast of the sea which was not lugia which was the river going wild which is kind of weird i don't know it's a weird it's a weird concept right like yeah at first they say underwater river and

47:27 i'm like that sounds weird yeah it's like it's like a current it's the east australian current from fighting nemo is all it is yeah um but then fun fact once again uh pokemon 2000 is the first time we're introduced to three characters first names samuel oak dahlia ketchum and i think it's felina ivy is her first name yeah no one ever calls her that cold feline i like this little moment we keep getting these little cuts to slow king who's just like kind of waiting for ash to show up and do something uh and right here he's just articuno's out doing his thing so he's covered in snow and hopefully he's like i love it like slow kick maybe has like 40 words in the whole movie and this is the best ones that he has oh he's cool

48:12 he's something exciting is great um but yeah articuno lawrence finally started facing off uh everyone they're like let's do this i'm about to catch my third pokemon meanwhile the crew's inside like he let us free we might as well free these other pokemon uh so you have ash with his team and god knows why the other three did not maybe melody doesn't have pokemon i don't know um but tracy missed you at something well she can't she can't be because they freaked out over ash being a pokemon yeah i was just that that's that's true so i just does that's just me knowing the island owens pokemon yes sounds like it sounds like like their entire um prophecy relies on someone uh um see that's how pikachu and charizard are trying to let out maltreats maltreat still chill as [ __ ] like listen to ash for some reason yeah even

48:58 though this takes place before this is before yeah i forget how orange island their relationship in orange island i don't know he didn't listen to him okay well damn ash yeah he must have some moment of excitement or the movie like oh he doesn't listen we don't watch the anime we just made the movie um two pokemon ain't enough team rockets like let's help zapdos so let's just throw our big gas bag at this big electric bird and see what it means such a good effect so for some reason i think this is the mandela effect for me i remember ash letting out bulbasaur and squirtle and bulbasaur doing literally nothing and i think i'm mixing it with the intro where it's like flamethrower hydroplum and venusaur's does nothing yeah no you're missing the intro

49:45 yeah but for some reason i also remember being like squirtle water gun charge that flamethrower pikachu thunderbolt and bulbasaur's like i'm here i'm cool um but he uses vine whip this finally breaks up multitrace and mulch is like sick i'm free what's up [ __ ] and just annihilate zapdos's cage it was that dose you want the smoke baby okay so here here's how here's how i interpreted this okay this is this is zapdos's uh second villain okay multrace realizes that he's free he's like all right cool i'm gonna break zapdos out and we're gonna make this movie short okay we take down this [ __ ] and then we just both go our separate ways because some [ __ ] in a in a castle in the sky decided to capture us and that's why everything was out of whack and balance oh okay

50:32 but no zapdos breaks free and instead instead of being like oh man thank you thank you my my bird friend i apologize for taking over your island no [ __ ] you okay okay maltree saved them they couldn't they could have just settled their differences taken out the villain of the of the movie and just been done with it but no they decide zapdos was like nah i'm gonna go against you instead why because the movie wouldn't have would have been way shorter zapdos is the sasuke of that movie exactly zapdos is the true villain of the movie so the birds start to clash they bust open the side of this building ferris wheel ship which starts to plummet our birds are now all fighting in the sky articuno involved oh [ __ ]

51:18 things are going on and lugia is like well i guess it's time for me to show up because lauren says like in this belief that they put like five strangers in a ship with axes to be able to get out to be fair he probably didn't know they had pokemon other than that pikachu he's like what's that gonna do you know he might have been like shh i'm just a collector i don't need to worry about these kids he's very overconfident one track mine um so right here after they break down the ship starts to fall i remember this scene from the trailer and it's like permanently ingrained in my head when i think of 2000 but as like the whole crew team rocket ash everyone is like running down the side of this building as it's crashing like whenever i think of the trail like that image is there that and when lugia uses like hyper beam and it goes like

52:05 like that two images i'm like that's pokemon 2000. i remember those without a doubt um so plane crashes large chunks of debris everywhere shattered in the shrine is about to break everything uh just eat it coming down as they hit the ground they're about to run the ship is still falling and it shatters the shrine of the electrical but luckily all this big metal debris didn't shatter the palm-sized glass ball that ash needed to pick up and destruct two orbs down one to go uh uh let's see they make some jokes about oh i don't wanna get my

52:52 electricity i don't get by fire meowth's like i don't wanna get hit by their droppings like i don't wanna hit my [ __ ] that's basically his whole thing so there we are there uh yeah battle continues to go so on so forth um i'm just trying to catch up with where i'm at here we did a lot more like diversion conversation with this one which i like um you guys talk about the birds for a second why i catch myself up here yeah so i think that this so what i do like about this is that we do get to see more of the birds because you didn't get you don't get to see these things except in the movies the thing here the thing here is is that i think the movie takes too long to show you hey here's the yeah so like they like the whole time you're forgetting that like you know the movie is called well the cover artists look at it yeah

53:38 you forget that because this the whole focus on three birds yeah who uh you could have done this movie without the three birds but i'll get that i'll say that until the end of the movie all right because like every time we do see lugia it's he's under the water and he's making his way to there he's just like a silhouette yeah so it's just like the silhouette with like the glowing eyes so that way you're like he's coming he's coming making well they think they're building it up but i i really i do have to agree they do take a little too long to give the reveal i will say this that uh a lot of people always complain like oh how can slow king talk like he's not till up like he's thinking telepathy like mewtwo and look at i was like yeah uh it's common knowledge every pokedex entry does this

54:24 if a psychic pokemon is smart enough they can develop psychic abilities uh one of the pokedex entries says that some molecule sams can actually just deadass is talk because the more you uh not intelligent but the stronger your psychic abilities the more you get though because you're not you're not speaking english you're just transferring your thoughts into that person and you're bringing that person's thoughts back so most psychic types have that i don't know why the [ __ ] lapras does it that makes sense but most psychic types that do talk or pokemon that are psychic like like obviously the car is not exactly type but he has like the whole aura gimmick or whatever so every time in the movies they always give you that pokemon that has psychic-like abilities uh they talk that's the reason for it and i feel like both the pokedex and the anime and the games tells you

55:10 all the time like uh that second pokemons can eventually get so strong to the point where they can read like your motives and stuff like that right see our birds are fighting they're having a little thing they're about to clash into the giant shrine that ash needs to place these orbs on and all of a sudden the big ass water vortex comes out what's going to come out of this thing we have no homo just breaks you like myself you thought it was the other guy and it was me he totally saved the boat and was just like oh yeah yes lugia pops up and he's like all right cool well you're doing your thing ash i'm gonna

55:56 he's not talking yet he's still just a regular pokemon at this point um he's 1v3 these birds and slow kings like hey so you're the one who's got to do this like lugia he can fight now but like you can't really do much until you do your [ __ ] um so look he gets out power he gets electrocuted flamethrower ice beams falls to the ice and is dead for like the first time in the movie he happens like three or four times um so look at plummets uh and melody's like i got an idea what if i play the song uh so but before that happens we have our fun little like transition of the world will turn to ash as opposed to the world will turn to ash and when you have the meaning there it's like now ash also sounds like oh wait i'm actually the chosen one like not a joke now i'm kind of scared because who is the one

56:43 who is the one there that pointed out that it that it had double meaning uh it was like slow king slash misty yeah yeah yeah cause slow king's the one that's like the world will turn to ash not explaining and then missy goes wait no ash you're right here and then the nashville kid cause like he was like oh i really wish my mom named something else right now i really wish i was named bob it's great also during that fight uh that fight was pretty brutal yeah because all three birds set luya into the water yeah and kept [ __ ] yeah like i've never seen that before like staying down like this [ __ ] should have [ __ ] died um so yeah melody's like oh i got the

57:29 idea now she whips out the ocarina plays the song lugia comes back and he's like oh ash you're the one who has to do this my guy i need you to go get that last orb so we can shut all this [ __ ] down just like that yeah i haven't quoted here on the script he's like my guy we need to get this [ __ ] done i like cal for some reason by the way like we've always thought that ash is like this go-getter but as soon as like responsibility is put on him he loses his cool yeah like every other time he's just like reckless trainer abandon you tell him to do this you can do this thing but as soon as you're just like oh you need to save the world oh [ __ ] yeah i don't think i can do this you need to get three orbs and bring it back to this one spot on the island all right let's go right now ash you need to save the roll i need you to do the exact same thing

58:15 you've been doing this entire movie but now there's actual stakes that's too much chief i don't know i don't know i tried to punch him youtube one time that didn't go too well but luckily mew came to save me so maybe if like someone tries to kill me everybody's like what the [ __ ] are you talking about what the [ __ ] is a mewtwo and a meal my dude you should remember this guy you're you're so [ __ ] sweet um but yeah so then crazy as a kid so i was telling dante earlier i had a basic like 4-3 tv and this movie i think originally was released in like a little bit wider screen it's probably like 6'3 or something it's not an actual dimension but stick with me so in this moment where ash's team pops out and they're like ash we believe in you snorlax was cut off on my screen so i had no idea this lumix was there and for some reason i never noticed in

59:01 the beginning maybe i was paying too much attention to lapras but ash is like charizard ooh fire nah snorlax too heavy whoa so like you see snorlax twice in this movie yeah on the boat and in that moment and since he was cut off i had no idea ash had a snorlax and then when i watched this movie on a real widescreen tv i'm like where's the [ __ ] snorlax come from where's what's that i didn't know this existed so it was done so yeah because he's like right he's literally on the left of the screen like completely looking this way he's just like and that's what he does in this movie um but now ash is like oh the team believes in me i got this oh i made something about lazy [ __ ] lappers who didn't come out of the pokeballs i don't know uh but ashley's like we got this he starts trying what hold on what did he say he

59:48 said he started oh he's he's like all right i am the chosen one and he starts marching through the snow he's like ooh right now i feel like the frozen one um so what does he do he finds a piece of metal from the broken boat that lugia shattered and uh pulls out his whole team minus lapras and snorlax of course uh and starts bob sliding through the snow now i'd like to know how squirtle and bulbasaur can like walk through the snow and ash is like nah i'm my feet are too heavy but these little dudes are like oh we're good do you think it was just because like the snow was just that dense that that since they were lighter they were able to to like walk around because that's what i would like to make it's probably the only logical thing with it yeah this entire this entire sequence did not need to be the way that it was i think they just did it to have like a hype moment yeah

1:00:34 you have it in your notes here yeah you're gonna say it but and we talked about it before the lord of the rings logic it's just like why could you not just use charizard did i just fly there it's uh yeah because i was like you're flying charizard i guess him and lugia weren't on those like stages yet maybe like can you just fly me over there you kind of had to fight but uh yeah just kind of plot hole there like why didn't you just fly over there get the orb fly back call today because i think it was more more like like one of those things where it was with the birds fighting he needed someone powerful enough to kind of like if they were to approach he could back them away so i think the whole thing was ash had to find a way to get across but he could just take a charizard

1:01:21 but like the whole thing was lugia was going to be like yeah i'm going to be the protector if they try to stick up i'm just going to bash them go because one of them oh it takes is one of them to [ __ ] up charlie too yeah like zapdos oh zapdos would yes yeah so i i understand like the the lugia having having lugia there for protection [Music] this entire this entire mindset still gets shattered by the fact of later when when he does actually ride on the luvia yeah and lugia is still technically protecting him while he's on his back to be fair that was only a 1v2 because articuno has already knocked the [ __ ] out yeah everybody got knocked down knocked out by the true villain as he's gliding fire to be fair the next time we see luke yeah from that episode of the show baby luke yeah

1:02:07 and big boy used the safeguard which completely nerve was all damaged and everybody around him he could have done that here um so yeah the fight from the birds they knock out the the sled thing we've built to get across um ash is like oh [ __ ] water i better save my charizard quick and just let everybody else run that that was such a nice attention to detail though because it's great because people do forget because some people do forget that when when ash first got charmander it was

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