Pokemon: Gotta Watch 'Em All! | Pokemon 3: The Spell Of the Unown | Pokemon Movie Podcast

0:00 [Music] hey guys what's up cj to be back again with another episode of pokemon gotta watch them all the podcasts we watch all the pokemon movies rank them talk about how great they are things we love things we hate and then uh yeah we'll go about doing that now i guess before i get started i have a new guy on the couch here

0:48 my gnome dwarven lion can i decided hey i wanted to come join can i join i said no he's like please i said really no four's a good number we don't want five um he was just like if you don't i'll sue i'm like fine whatever so kind of fell into place so can i welcome you thank you i know these guys have to plug the first episode if you want to talk a little bit about yourself for like 13 seconds a stream stuff and uh you know i have stuff and i'm just watching you count me now and i'm getting anxious danny so you're like everybody else at this couch yeah all right 30 seconds we're done all right cool so last week we watched pokemon 2000 and generally the whole table loved the movie uh so can i you did you get a chance to come back hang on look at that what what is your definition of love uh it

1:34 was a great movie everyone loved it it's at the top of the list i have it right here um so did you get a chance to watch the first two years i watched the first one okay i did not want to watch the second one okay okay uh it's long for no reason okay fair they could have accomplished the same thing with an american canceled episode of the show what will be nice now is that when we had four i was always afraid when we get to the point of actually ranking them that if we end up in a tie there's no way to break it now five i'm like hey do you think it's better than this one everyone agrees do you think it's better than this three people think yes two people think no all right well they have the advantage just every time there's a tie i'll be like i don't know i'm kind of in the middle of this literally the whole reason you came here

2:19 but anyway this week we watched pokemon 3 spell of the unknown now you want to do a bit to know the unknown see if you guys aren't familiar pokemon 3 starring entei a bunch other friends like ash misty brock fun stuff um so first impressions not getting too into what you guys think of pokemon 3 i like it it's one of my favorites that i've actually seen before okay but maybe we should catch up with this before we get to that currently what's your favorite pokemon movie currently yes without having to watch all these yet like if you're like my favorite one is this one of the first three of all of all of them uh forever okay but re-watching them i might like three's like right there

3:04 okay gotcha so then yeah so what did you think of three thought you enjoyed it yeah i've enjoyed it a lot nice yeah um so far and i i've talked to this with you about this with everybody here because we all have like a little group chat that we talk in um i watched this one twice because i was trying not to be biased and uh like i there isn't much that i personally can pick apart from this movie um i i think it's amazing you should tell it to run tomatoes put a score on there 21. now we'll save chris for last yeah but john how much would you think about three uh i haven't seen this one in a while all right uh it was nice because it was like watching a movie but it's i i thought 2000 was going to be worse

3:52 i consider this one to be horse wow i know i know you like this one okay yeah i feel bad because i was like he doesn't like this one no i don't i don't like oh this is this my favorite because i [ __ ] it over the last one so i'm like oh he's gonna think i'm just so like i'm going like by the end by the end of how this turns out you may be back down to four people that's right connor um so chris you love this movie yeah no okay baseline what is it you don't like i'm sure we can detail it's not the whole thing but the premise of how it begins okay that's like the one thing that i'm just like no [Laughter] you're gonna talk about it i'll i'll save i'll save the heat for the end

4:38 okay all right so we'll get started with the synopsis i'm gonna try and do my best i still want conversation if something comes up you guys want to point something out we'll just try and stay as on topic of the movie and discussion as we can going from an hour-long episode to a two-hour long episode about pokemon 2000 we'll try to get somewhere in between there so um yeah pokemon three i don't have any fun facts about it to start but we start with this beautiful gorgeous mansion there's a lovely older man uh mr spencer hale which you find out about 15 minutes into the [ __ ] movie um sitting reading a book with his daughter talking about here the legendary pokemon uh things ancient legends that are important to our world et cetera et cetera primarily entei and the unknown which this movie makes the unknown way way way cooler than they are in the game absolutely there's things like the freezing [ __ ] and then creighton [ __ ] i'm like

5:24 they don't do that in the game i wish they did something they show up they go this way i i think this movie might have been influential as to why i wanted to catch like every unknown to see if they did something special yeah he got like the whole alphabet what's the move they use um hidden power power technically it does make sense why they used to ice them because the hidden powers effect and game yeah i i just i wish i did something else more or something like this even like even if they led they themselves led to a legendary pokemon i think would be spell something more you yeah yeah equivalents like the braille and gen 3. it's like having two i'm sure it wasn't that in-depth of a thought at the time but it's like having all the all the reggie's usually unlocked the other reggie sort of situation

6:10 i don't know it would have been cool but you [ __ ] up game freak damn gen 4 remakes hurry up uh so anyway so yeah um father-daughter moment they're bonding now what we've learned is that professor hale is a professor of ancient pokemon discoveries he's constantly getting called off he's to leave his daughter alone and she's you know we lost mom somewhere along the way so he's like i could spend five minutes with you every now and again and then he gets called off by a fun little email um from what was it skyler um but that was far after they had a lovely little bonding moment of dad is oh you want me to be entei well i am entei and they have a little like piggyback writer on that it's very cute it just really sets the tone it makes you care about these two characters out of the gate they get on the rocking ponytail they do get on the rocking ponytail and then they have a little dog fan slide

6:56 it's cute and then a few plush and there's another plush that i can't remember no i cared uh fun here's a fun fact from me there is a teddy ursa uh all of uh molly's team is hinted at in the beginning of this movie mm-hmm damn when you put it out there i didn't even think about that yeah um she didn't have a ponytail the other the other ones that are missing that are in the room are on the computer damn i gotta go back and watch this movie now yes um so yeah professor haley's like daughter i love you tuck you in i gotta go discover some pokemon [ __ ] runs off finds his assistant starts messing with some tiles in this little room and says oh wait these these look like letters they spell things and then all of a sudden the shadow realm pops open sucks this man into another dimension and then sky was like [ __ ] my boss is gone so we cut back to the mansion um they missed a perfect merchandising

7:42 opportunity yeah pokemon scrabble pokemon could have used unknown letters that would have been great literally opens up a box and goes look at these scramble pieces and then they light up and the man's gone that's what happens when we all play scrabble right we just disappear we just vanish yu-gi-oh scrabble well john got the 3d printer i'm sure we could that's like some jumanji [ __ ] like if you played the game and the loser just addressed whatever you spell it summons it's a summoning circle but they're all known [Laughter] um so yeah everyone comes back we're looking at these new unknown title things that skylar brought back after they tell little mother hey uh your dad's dead just like your mom's now you're an orphan i should tell her the butler was like you know what

8:28 let me do it i've been on the screen for about 15 seconds i'm pretty important you know what i need this yeah i need this for my life that's the only character that doesn't get a name in the movie it's the butler butler yeah yeah butler the butler it's called jeeves or alfred it's one of the other there's no idea i feel like that's a very common theme though in pokemon films there's just that one character just no names that's kind of demeaning though yeah typically they do it to a character that reoccurs they just did it to the butler who's only there for like the purpose of telling her about her dad yeah i don't know i'm just i'm part like at least at least we didn't have the uh the villain yeah not being named for the entire damn movie yeah clarence the third um but yeah so at some point in here they tell molly hey dad's dead and then we have a little time skip it could be 10

9:14 minutes could be a couple hours but molly's left alone with all the ancient stuff that she probably shouldn't be touching but nobody's monitoring her so whatever she spills all these tiles enters scrabble yeah it's like oh i got it papa and because she wants her mama and papa's so bad the unknown like we got you baby and me and then they teleport over and just start crystallizing the whole bad mansion everyone's freaking out what's going on these tiles did something but we can't do anything cause we're frozen outside um and yeah so now molly's starting to [ __ ] up the whole entire world just because she wants a mom and dad who figured um i mean you you lose them at a very young age like and you start messing around with some weird egyptian god [ __ ] you don't know what's gonna happen

9:59 you play voodoo scrabble every second why is every episode like you yelled i'm just saying like the three the first three movies i can relate to yu-gi-oh for some goddamn reason they're pretty tied in we'll see what that changes um let me see yeah so unknown cool mod is a thing cool all right title card pokemon three spell the unknown had a cooler name in japanese it did you said what was your saying what was it emperor of the crystal uh palace or castle yeah but like way cooler way way cooler way cooler but it doesn't have uh it doesn't have the name of a pokemon in it so it's not it says like you said earlier you thought that the unknowns would do more yeah i thought the unknowns would be more permanent in the story they are for them i'm just putting it

10:44 out there they are they're the whole reason this movie is going on sure it's because they do their best they're not doing their best they are the whole reason why the movies have promised they just take away the dad they give the girl powers they are the entire reason why this movie is happening so i talk about it later this gets close to the end of the movie but like the unknown create entei yeah and so then i'm wondering how in depth are these things tied like do the unknown control entei is it like we just created your being now you have your own will but entei themselves like well i was created only to serve molly yeah how much freedom does entei have apart from the unknown because at the end we see him fight the unknown right and everything but it's like yeah why didn't they just poof him if they wanted to yeah it's a little

11:31 like which because every because everything's pulled from molly sure yeah in the title card there's some unknown that fly up and they spelled entei oh did that yeah noise yeah right underneath spell the unknown uh i think it's five yeah if i won't fly up and it just says entei and i'm like fun fact fun fact not about the movie at all but while writing these notes i had a really hard time not putting an r at the end of entei i don't know what i would have had a hard time typing out unknown without the k yeah it's hard too unknown google docs kept saying there's a k in this world like this excuse me it's a pokemon um so yeah title card smell the unknown

12:17 now we meet our heroes ash misty and brock walking up these cool little jungle staircase and they meet lisa is this the first time brock's the narrator yes okay yeah this first time brock narrates the movie um and i think that happens on and off throughout the next couple i don't remember i think yeah i think jirachi i think brock does narration okay i don't remember we'll see yeah and uh and four he heats narrating right and then i was like it's but like i was just like did they mention this and then i was like and it's me brock oh okay yeah there it is where's the other guy um yeah so they meet up with lisa who's this really cute pokemon trainer she's like hey you want to battle and brock's like you want to date she's like no i want the battle for the price cartoon i enjoy i enjoy the uh the conversation that they had here yeah it's like hey i want to be your i want to be your

13:03 boyfriend no thanks and then she's like hey ash you want to battle yeah i'm trying to become the best and beat the pokemon league well let's see if you're in my league i was like damn i love this conversation i like that she says do any of you want to battle and then brock's like i want to be your boyfriend and that's not what i asked yeah yeah cause then it's like she's acknowledging the other two probably have pokemon it's not just like hey kid with the hat and the pikachu you're mine see we get that amazing like johto remix like this is like the app like one of the top bops in these movies and i'm waiting to see down the road because i know darkrai has another one that i [ __ ] love the rendition of the intro but i'm excited to see what other ones pop back up um but it's also like one of the first full battles we get is being like 1v1 although the first full 16. you still follow the theme yeah

13:49 but when the battle ends like it's so everybody's getting o code and it's like oh we dodged a little bit oh i got hit once [ __ ] i'm dead that's actually very true to how pokemon games work yeah but at the end of the day somebody does sword dance and then just sweeps the entire team both of these trainers still have half a team yeah like they just decide not to she has two ashes at three i feel four wasn't it out of six six it was it was six and six but she lost four times ash lost twice yeah because it was like a tiebreaker tie breaker and pikachu was the last one standing yeah um i know she had giraffe rig left and she had butterfree correct yeah because butterfree wrecked bulbasaur right is this um is this a weird like anime because i don't remember how the show went but is this like an anime thing to wear

14:34 like two pokemon battle and then the winner like gets you a point and then they go to the next pokemon or did they actually go into battles so the weird thing is that depending on what it is yeah it's different it's different because like gym battle rules are completely different than like outside battles yeah because when they have like your frontier battles where like the rules constantly change and i think that they just assume that you just know like you know when they go to the league it's full sixteen versus full sixteen until nobody cares yeah yeah i think the reason why they did it in the movie for the intro is obviously because it's a shorter amount of time and they wanna showcase a lot of pokemon because i will admit this is one of the movies where there are compared to all the other movies there are not a lot of pokemon featured in this right so now we have two full teams we see everyone so

15:19 there's not a lot of secondary you just basically have molly's team the nice bennett the nice benefit is that we get to see a lot of the characters individual pokemon being utilized in this movie 100 um but you don't see a lot of other stuff because of it so i need justice for golem after that quagsire fight backside just shrugs off that lightning but golden gets murdered just getting [ __ ] made in every movie right because yeah yeah he got [ __ ] made in the first movie yeah um so yeah these guys fight cool my favorite moments when like manky tries to like ground pounds [ __ ] i love that i love that too amazing i personally love that moment um yeah i put in there after two years they want to recover from the memes because now they thunderball on quagsire's like i'm a ground type i'm fine uh in the end ash wins they enjoy their meal

16:06 um like we're on our way to the pokemon league well hey there's a cool little place over here with the pokemon center called greenfield it's beautiful let's go check it out they head up over the hill team rockets trailing them comic relief um what did meow say here i think team rock is like it looks horrendous yeah so yeah so they go up over the hill they're like oh it's going to be beautiful you're going to love it and then they see these crystals everywhere it's not what they're expecting now i thought it looked beautiful i know it's not what it's supposed to be but absolutely those crystals look nice yeah everybody everybody's weird on that in the movie right they're just like what is this this is an abomination while everybody in like like me like you and me i'm like that actually looks pretty i don't i don't mind it we don't get that grand scale shot until that moment like we see the mansion but we have to see greenville our greenfield field we don't see green

16:51 field as a whole and then we just see the crystals and like oh yeah okay which again such a simple town name yeah green color place location we were watching for and this is not four so we'll get that later but we're watching for last night chris can i and i and he's just like wow you took a collar and another word for town yes congratulations you picked a word for tree in a word for town that's it that's congrats that's a location isn't that all of pokemon yeah yeah for real i'm very positive that there's a great field connecticut probably yeah they're representing greenfield does sound like an actual place yeah i bet they turn into crystals um they're i think i think it's i think it's in minnesota because minnesota's also yeah i called it the coral forest when it showed up i was like oh that's pretty

17:36 and then i said that i was like that's a way cooler name for this yeah than just crystallized green field um but yeah so team rocket sees it and uh james goes oh it's horrendous now not only that it looks big nice team rocket has some banger jokes yeah i think so far these are my favorite ones um because they're just so off the cuff and like they break the fourth wall i know john mentioned last time i hate when they break the fourth wall the waiting joke is real good that's that's all i feel like that's all of team rocket's conversation in this movie is that they bring you with comedy is that why you hate this movie [Laughter] one of the only times i didn't hate it wasn't like in uh when they're in alola and jessie actually beats ash and then she just turns around and looks

18:22 on camera like did we win that's still one of the times where i was like okay i dig this for wall breaking um so next we see the news crew pull in they're like hey greenfield it's under attack which is perfectly broadcast enough so we can finally shoehorn professor oak and ash's mom into this movie they fly out because they have a connection with professor hale so like we need to get out here and see this guy when uh ash's mom is pulling pictures off the fridge yeah there's a screenshot of uh the intro sequence of the old gameboy games of nidorino versus gengar oh yeah i didn't see it yep it's uh it you don't see a zoom in but if you look you can see the menu and you can see two pokemon in the positions um so yeah they get together like hey you were you grew up with this guy right dalia she's like yeah it was you know

19:08 close friends whatever so they drive out they're the special forces whatever they need to save molly or do whatever um but of course we meet up ash ash's mom they hug and molly sees wow he's got a mom that's crazy i totally skipped over entei spawning in didn't i uh yeah hey the unknown made end tag they did that papa was entei that ten seconds i got to see him one once they froze everybody out it was just molly they made entei and he's like voicemail hi i'm here voiced by dan green also known as yami yugi from yugioh here you go again hi i'm here it's time they sent me to the shadow realm see molly's chilling inside with entei she's like oh mom i wish i had a mom and she's like bet i got you in bed

19:57 they're chilling outside like a goldfish so all of a sudden like they're chilling they're eating outside mom's catching up with son and we just pee she's like something's happening and these big [ __ ] dogs jumping from crystals to crystals hops around the corner fantastic shot and the bravest one of the team ash's mom goes can i help you you shouldn't be here i think it's like the exact line you shouldn't be here and enzy's like you are mama yeah she passes out and they picks her up takes her back to the palace ash will pikachu clings to his tail i'll save you thunderball i don't know if it was supposed to be like hectic so it didn't hit or if entei reflected it or something but the electricity starts going everywhere and he's like [ __ ] off kicks him down and yeah ash tries to run through the crystal brock's like you don't know what's out

20:42 there you can't do this which would have been going back and i'm wondering how this would have affected for you guys would that have been interesting if they ran into other obstacles in that like field where brock's like you don't know what's out there it's like what if what if there was stuff out there yeah what if there's some weird crazy pokemon that we don't know about in there they had to battle that before power diancie and carbine chemist all out there brother canvas we'll get that later yeah yeah so i the two who hate this movie i don't haven't said too much is there anything so far that you're like i can't [ __ ] stand it uh the part where entei was formed by the unknown came out and said you are mama and then just stole a person to bring her back to be like hey you're the replacement mom congratulations so i never understand i think it pers i

21:29 personally me personally it makes sense to me but i'll get into that i don't understand in pokemon movies and the anime why people's pokemon are in their pokeballs right because if they're pokeball assuming that they don't have like a [ __ ] onyx right but ideally if ash's whole team was out right and we had a fighting chance to do something yeah and i never understand like ideally why you want your pokemon out your pokeball it's when they're small because ash's team just took down like just had a bunch of battles like we know they're capable right and his pikachu is very capable himself imagine it feels like teamwork so like i remember watching them like two violins while they're eating they do go ash's pokemon are really tired this is their fifth battle this week did you say that yes but they could

22:14 still help i know and then in my head i was like [ __ ] in the games i've battled like 16 times in an hour what are you talking about yeah but no i mean that's fair i mean in terms of an adult head canon where you're like yeah this is an issue they could have solved if they just weren't stupid uh so i would have thrown a pokeball i know it won't work but in my head i was like yeah i'll throw the pokeball because then he can't run away for a couple seconds and then be like [ __ ] get inside what happens just i think the this this entire event happens so quickly that it's actually plausible that they try because they weren't expecting entei to just show up out of nowhere and then not not only that but but snatched his mom and then left a four four-legged creature that that is moving

23:00 very significantly fat like they they aren't even keeping up like they're actually losing ground so i don't know i think that personally like what were you gonna do tell all your bulbasaur and chikorita as soon as it happens finally have you guys seen the solar beam from uh the first movie that the bulbasaur dead bro yeah he would have took it off and like crashed um so yeah entertain takes dahlia back and molly's like oh mama here now dolly is like hypnotized at this point she's under the spell and she you see her very like barely knows that she's not the person they're saying she is like i'm not your mom but i don't know who i am so i want i love several lines of dialogue from this part because there's the part where she's like yeah you remember molly she came over and we hung out at professor oaks and ash is like

23:46 yeah maybe maybe and then like entei does that you are mama and she goes take me to my child in front of her actual child and then she shows up and she's like mama and she's like mom indoctrination it's the son of a [ __ ] so yeah molly's like cool i have a mom now and she's like she's a kid so you can see she understands that she has parents that are both gone now but she's like i found my substitutes that work um she's like can we stay here forever and entei just does the repeatable line of like if that is what you wish and then just starts packing on the crystals be like we're going to make this as seclusive as possible make sure nobody can actually get in um which uh is this point where we see some more

24:31 of the crystals going like out yeah it's not like the spikes or anything yeah we see like the crystal we start to form like the more flower bulb shape right yeah yeah i find this particular area like when when you start to see the crystals going out is actually surprisingly consistent in its rules okay because you notice there's a path of water like a like a little stream that it doesn't cover right and they they go they go into that later so it's it's interesting i think it's kind of neat that they paid attention to that there's a little place right here with the fortress of solitude yeah the old justice we always gotta break up superman which i will say real quick i i do like how like like everything is happening or based off of uh off of molly's emotions yeah i like that because i'm like

25:18 everything it just it makes sense yeah i think i'm i'm with it playing out the way it does it's just i i don't like you you don't like the how the premise of the world starts everything that happens in it makes sense but not necessarily and like just like the whole like consistency like it just feels like it's like all right guys we gotta we're going on time we're going on time here we just gotta get these going just go we got an hour to get this movie in right i actually don't think that this movie has a pacing issue but that's me um i also i also i i've gotta put it out there i'm going to be the complete and polar opposite of the other half of them i also did not have an issue with pacing we're gonna be the opposite during the next movie i bet you cause i bet wherever it's like before the entei or the dark ride came

26:04 out i would die for that movie i bet i bet you we will be opposites on that one i i will preface this by saying i don't hate forever yeah there's some things that i'm just kind of like moving on all right so yeah so we cut back professor oak and skylar are doing their fun professor science [ __ ] and like so we've come to conclude that everything that's happening is because of the unknown they're here to help molly we don't quite understand who they are what they are what they're doing are they pokemon we don't know but they're the ones [ __ ] it all up that's where you see the fake unknowns right the fake uh yeah you see them a couple times in the movie um throughout the entire thing we see different unknowns that don't actually exist so we don't know if they were planned unknown that didn't exist um or that didn't come to fruition in any other games because we got we had exclamation point question mark in harcourt so silver right there's a new unknown we ever got but they have

26:50 like gamma they have like weird there was uh and this is where you see the cultural images of uh entei where it's like egyptian uh hieroglyphs caveman drawing uh chinese japanese and then it's just like mounted entei wall in the top right and you're like is that his head you're just like what did they kill an entei but now like now it's confirmed that there is egypt and wisconsin all right so after this whole moment we cut to the charismatic valley that's right ash had a charizard that didn't listen to him it wasn't strong enough so we left him with a bunch of other big charizards

27:35 so we see uh liza and charlotte who are eliza eliza's amazing she's gorgeous what's that what's up oh yeah but at least it's above but like she's good too yeah i like how we always like just it's like oh it's a it's a female charizard let's just slap a bow right yeah that's how you know it's a woman so you know they started giving pokemon like little lips like the wall fit yeah that's the i hate this one they're the worst i'd rather have just shorter horns versus longer horns and i know if you don't have a comparison heart tail versus flat tail yeah something like that but you're just like let's put a little thing on like ah i guess it works but i hate it he has like one shot or something speaking of lava fat earlier we did see what was that for the first time yeah antonio dial for the first time

28:21 that's true so i put that dance at the end um when this movie came out in the animated short uh the pikachu pichu brother thing yeah um ash lets all the pokemon out of the ball where we see the shiny knocked out in total for the first time because at this point in the anime actually not caught these pokemon so in the movie you're like what why not knock that look funny why he got weird out it's like oh ash kadashi and then we see it a couple weeks later as they animate i constantly forget that's a shiny yeah right because the color scheme is like the only one you see yeah you'll see it and i actually wish i knocked out i don't know if this is just my memory playing tricks on me but i feel like because of ash's knockdown i thought that was knocked out yeah yeah yeah i know that if they did you know how like in the games do the little stars yeah you should do that

29:06 with chinese anatomy they they did it they knew they actually do it with this movie when he's battling lisa yeah when we see knocked out because we have an episode we go back to oak's lab it's already out of the pokeball yeah we're not seeing the animation we just see off knocked out so it's very rare we see that's true that transitions but no i agree there should be something to note it just puts shiny above its head every time it's on screen like okay every time they have it tattooed on their neck yeah it just knocked out shiny he just has a tag um yeah traffic valley ash's charizard's picking him into like hey i know that guy oh [ __ ] just a throwaway scene nothing's gonna happen it's whatever um yeah back at greenfield there's a single man with the bulldozer trying to

29:54 bulldoze through the whole thing one of the first and only inconsistencies i noticed in the movie is at that point because the bulldozer starts off driving on the crystal and then it hits grass and then it starts plowing through crystal and i was like but why is it going off the crystal on the grass and that there's not a happening yeah and then i was like but you know what this is a human reaction to just be like let's use powerful machinery to try and plow through this unknown [ __ ] i really like this scene [ __ ] out of here the worker funnily enough looks fairly similar to the workers in uh gold and silver yeah yeah there's like the design like the person the person in the person or whatever i think lisa kind of looks like an elite trainer or an ace trainer ace trainer yeah i said you should say

30:41 that uh so yeah now molly's just like goddamn they're trying to get inside she sends them an email which i guess is what everybody send a video email which probably the file sizes you're too too big to be sending through email but whatever um i mean i mean it was really pixelized so that's fair she's like stay away it's it's just me my mom and my dad in here and they're like mom and dad this is [ __ ] crazy what's happening like they don't realize that dive's been captured as mama and they don't have they've seen entei but they don't realize that it's more than just a pokemon at this point she's saying she has her dad yeah yeah uh so then we cut inside again we have entei and molly doing like the piggy back ride again i thought it was really cute there's like yeah where ante like drops and feels like a little like wiggle to kind of toss around like that's adorable it's adorable that's cute

31:27 um but obviously ash is like i can't be waiting for this [ __ ] i gotta go save my mouth yeah brock misty like where you going we'll come with you uh lisa gives the pokey gear i mean cool it never comes up it comes up like once i think when you're like yeah we got inside and first looks like oh we'll talk about this later but [ __ ] go okay the one thing i like about this scene is lisa realized that she would be absolutely useless here and she's like i have no [ __ ] clue what's going on take my poke gear that's my help yeah have fun yeah and then she just goes back to oakland i wouldn't work at a true trainer yeah wait so wait a minute hold on this is the first time we have we have a trainer have some common sense yes and not go into the [ __ ] right they're just like i just met you 15 minutes ago i'd [ __ ] die for you 10 year old child i've never met like oh no all my water

32:15 all my pokemon are water types with a nidoqueen with a needle that's an oh look at it i'm looking at this oh man the world is freezing over i guess we better go like start swimming all these islands uh as you're sneaking like the crystal palace we have that amazing moment with team rocket where they're in the hot air balloon following and they're walking through the water like oh they're waiting through the water like how could they be waiting if they're walking they're walking through the water yeah then they're waiting yeah i love that that's waiting with the d and then waiting w a i t and it's like yeah because of his uh accent yeah that's amazing how could they be waiting if they're walking uh yeah entei is like i didn't notice the kids in the water but i didn't notice that big miraculous they blast them out of the sky and they do the teamwork we're blasting and then smash the building and they're trapped in whatever this weird unknown

33:01 cellular structure thing is going on inside um but they start like uh there's an artist from marvel named steve ditko and it very much looks like a lot of his stuff i like how i like alente just assumes they're dead yeah yeah they're probably like yeah it's like team and i also enjoy the fact that the team rocket just gets cut off it's like t-rex and then they have the other one it's like a big black hole like what do we do how do we get to the bottom how do you think it'll take about three seconds if we jump and they're just like no no and then they somehow get out there and i'm like do it because you're cartoon characters you fell from the sky in the last movie you'll be good yeah all right from this guy since the first episode these guys have become like i imagine that the balloon just goes and then they

33:48 superhero land yeah are you right good good let's get the other balloon let's get the other balloon yeah molly's all happy she's like yay we got rid of the bad guys cool dolly is still confused like yeah good job daughter we did it um but when we come back outside uh on the news channel we see a knock down a bulbasaur and a chickarito flying up and it's like pokemon what are they doing here what's going on and immediately smarter than that she goes that's a knock towel i think that's a bulbasaur to chicarita ash would have been like i just caught that weedle what the [ __ ] is that thing yeah pokedex what's this pikachu what's this pikachu thing this guy's talking about i've been carrying for 25 years yeah um but okay that's right something about turn it out cool um so here i point out i've started doing tallies for like the like the likelihood of each of these persons

34:35 tried to invade a building on their own using just their pokemon uh ash has three points with knocked out chicory and bulbasaur uh missing brock's still rocking zero but i don't want to take note of that it's not too long it comes up like three seconds here but i figured it's important to point out um yes you know ash starts to scale the wall with the vine whip from chikorita and bulbasaur uh they're watching on the news and dalia is kind of like coming too like i know this kid i think and then as he slips and we see him in danger in his face she immediately snapped out and just started screaming ash what are you doing up there you'll get damper there i don't think that's what you want him to do in this situation yeah you're just like [ __ ] who are you yelling at that guy because obviously has no idea molly was too young to remember so there's like there's some kid climbing our wall but he's got pokemon so molly's happy which means entei's happy so

35:20 no real problem right uh but yeah they continue to climb up dolly is finally here like okay i can't do anything i can't like leave but i gotta play it up like i'm still mama uh and then we cut again so now i'm trying to break its little crystal gazebo so the best way to do it is let's use cyndaquil flamethrower we did it oh but it reseals uh back to the tally points now we have cynical and vulpix burn it with toted island staru to use their water gun to swim through so now ash has five points with cynical untold io misty has one with staryu and brock has one with ball picks going back on this um and when i said something earlier i love the fact that we're seeing all the teams getting utilized yeah not necessarily for battles too like you use them for other things as well yeah we had that briefly in the second movie

36:06 although we kind of uh ripped on it a little bit because it's just like well you have a charizard just watch it but i really like seeing the pokemon getting used in other situations other than the battle yeah that's really nice i think it's nice for well anybody i was gonna say more adults for kids too because like we know he has more capabilities with his team but he's not using them i don't know if it's a plaque convenience thing but i think gen 3 movies do a good job with like um it's really hot totally or trouble you use water and like you see more of that in general i feel like i feel like they also started doing that because a majority of ash's team is first stage yeah right so like they're like if that thing tries to go up again it's not gonna it's gonna get bodied that kid's gonna watch this man i can fight entei with a pikachu and it's just gonna get sacred flames

36:52 man forgets about that's watching versus squirtle no no i didn't forget that i mean that's like a fight i imagine squirtle walks in and takes like you mean three bonds versus pikachu one lightning yeah kills see as they make their way deeper and deeper into it things started to our eyes uh crystals whatever uh they find this staircase they go up it and they just find this like gorgeous just endless field with a big spiral staircase in the middle like i guess is where we're at um meanwhile team rockets found the the unknown like let's not [ __ ] with those it's trying to sneak by uh meowth pops in and says they look like alphabet soup without the soup i don't know about soup but if we stay

37:37 here much longer we'll be in hot water uh and then as they're slipping by i didn't understand this one as a kid and i still don't know if i truly understand what they're going for um but as you're slipping by james like i haven't seen this many strange letters since the last time i placed the personal i died when i heard that i was like yeah i was like what is james personal advocate exactly whoever was writing for team rocket back then they secured so so team rocket essentially are are all of the adult jokes right yeah yeah what we're gathering with us yeah because they have the opposite sex one in uh 2000 wisconsin wisconsin or minnesota minnesota partially ash but yeah it was affiliated with yeah [Laughter]

38:27 uh so anything's getting nervous like hey molly so these guys are getting kind of close i'm gonna get rid of them molly's like no they're cool but uh you know i'm really jealous of their pokemon trainer i wish i could do something like that and and taste like if that's what you wish and then he like i guess knocks her out and then steals her consciousness and puts it in like an illusion version of molly they didn't really explain i don't truly know how it works do you you want to know the answer it's spelling on them roll credits how many games do we play where there's a little [ __ ] six-year-old girl and then she usually has like my daddy gave me this pokemon yeah so i was like yeah [ __ ] just battle or just the rattata kid right yeah jelly it's very odd like i don't i don't understand why that

39:12 like so so what what what is the criteria to be a pokemon trainer because there's a reason in theory we think it's 10 years old right but then we come across trainers that are younger than us right so so i think it's more of a 10 it's like a maturity level kind of like with your kids i mean i don't have [ __ ] kids but yeah you get your kids a pet to help build a responsibility because i mean if you get your your son like a retada it's a lot easier to take care of that than a [ __ ] onyx you know i mean so i think that it's more of a i think the tent thing is more of a maturity level but then if you're if your dad's like like norman who's a gym leader you're more likely to get a pokemon from your dad at an earlier age because he has a plethora of them compared to like the average person like dahlia who clearly doesn't do anything pokemon

39:58 related yeah so like it makes sense why ashley didn't get a pokemon but i imagine somebody like me ideally or max should have gotten a pokemon because someone said her torchic's our first pokemon or whatever yeah i guess i always imagined it that it was like 10 is like the you get a pokemon license yeah it's where you can actually be a trainer do the gym battles because pokemon or sign up for the league yeah because they have to take a test before you become a trainer right so uh in context yes i don't know so in the anime they don't do that but in the manga they do because right you have to be in the manga you have to pass a test become pokemon trainer i'm just very i just get curious about it because like i and i know we're probably just thinking too hard about something that's a kids game but like you come across preschoolers who have like two to three pokemon

40:44 sometimes in pokemon games like where do we draw the line when you go to the academy and uh and suddenly uh there's there's uh you battle those kids or when alder and gen five when you meet out there and he's like hey you mad beat the shot of these kids and they're all kids but they have actual like pokemon decent pokemon yeah i think it's more of like if your parents give you one it's okay but if not then you just went to your time i'm sure you can battle those kids but you're not going to see those kids fighting brock and misty those kids are not going to get knocked out and then like lose half their money yes because i think they've been brought up on i can't remember but it might be it'll be like a whole you have to be that old to start the league process and yeah that's where our journey sets off because we're

41:30 going through that it's just theirs is happening sooner because they were so they're better they're essentially they're better trainers because they get more experience yeah by the time they get their starter here's my flaffy who's a full bro afros but i'm getting my starter there yeah shout out by the way flaffy uh the whole line best pokemon it's a weird way to sacred ninja but okay unfortunately molly is too young to be a troll yeah molly's too going to be a trainer or is she entei takes that weird metaphysical molly and she's like but but papa i'm too young you can be whatever you want to be and then ages are like 20 years she becomes smoking [ __ ] hot and like maybe that's a weird thing to say because you're still like a four-year-old but like 25 30 year old molly is a peaceful

42:15 i had nobody say anything everybody's just judging they're like no i i no i i i get what you're saying it's a very weird it's a very weird line that we have to draw with that but and funnily enough funnily enough this is this is one of the weird things where i you might get into it later i don't want to talk to it but like [ __ ] but like brock they could have set up brock for a joke for this but they didn't and they made they made brock respectable interesting yeah when we get together we'll get to it the flirting part she looks like a region champion like she yeah yeah like she looks like she i didn't i did put a note here about it felt like mineta in my hero when he's like oh aaron you're going to be hot when you grow up and i'm guarding you in 10 years

43:03 yeah so entei pops in with adult molly they cut the team off like hey where are you going she's like you guys have a pokemon battle and ash is like no [ __ ] it's like where's my [ __ ] mom yeah where is like come on you know fun like let's battle she's like who is this oh this is molly weird anything can happen in here which is one of the first times ash is ever like [ __ ] a battle where's like what is going on and then she's just like well which one of you is the strongest now she's like well me but where the [ __ ] my mom yeah but then brock's like hey look you after your mom i'll distract her so and then entei's like i mean i guess they're going i'm molly didn't tell me to stop him so yeah i'll sit over here molly's current dream is to be a pokemon trainer so i'm going to stay with her but yeah that brock could have brock could have flirted with molly like just accidentally but he was smart

43:50 enough and he realized that's uh your name right yeah it's a five-year-old child i'm not touching that well that would be like good like not i guess i i'd already say it was flirting where it was he says he says she's cute yeah he's like you're cute um he makes your lives like oh i made you laugh that's my first victory today i've been losing all my fights right because she took a note out of youtube's book and said oh let me make god to your pokemon yeah that you literally like a [ __ ] phanty just bodied on it yeah flipped it yeah through the air like master chief with a tank yeah dude you wonder what it was that family a water as well that's what it was that was my boy good year yeah while the battle is going on team rocket they climb up they sneak past see ya bye-bye don't say uh i don't know if they had a joke here i didn't write anything down but

44:38 this looks like a child like a story like a a place that out of a child's mind of a story about yourself does anybody here watch once upon a time it wasn't really [ __ ] in that the whole premise of once in one time it's basically molly's entire story where there's a whole story there's a town called storybrooke and it's essentially what molly's dream is yeah the whole show is essentially just the third movie because it's funny because after that joke that's where jesse go jesse goes shut up and leave the questioning to me and then the mouth has the best line out of the whole thing what was that i didn't write down i remember this part because we said it earlier on one spot now so like my mind zeroed out but it was something along like along the lines well here's a question i shouldn't ask do you think maybe in the next movie we're going to get more screen times right here because okay

45:24 i might have that because i think that's actually dark i think that's misty's yeah but uh i i don't remember i i have it here somewhere maybe scripts are hard uh fancy you know what you vampy just is like oh so anyway it's molly with flappy teddy harrison fan p against brock zubat vulpix and onyx that's poor for vulpix what is brock's team like holy moly it's a weird team especially for a rock type gym leader and zubat vulpix why did he even have like i i feel like zubat was a like a starter pokemon for brock yeah he won gen 1 like off screen like he was just like they were in mount moon and then later in a fight he's like go zubat actually where'd you get that he's like i caught it while you were talking yeah like camera yeah like he just

46:10 conveniently summons it and just happens to help because all of ash's pokemon or all brock's pokemon are utility yeah so whenever they need somewhere like a tall mountain onyx is a good guy right but for battle he never goes like hey ashley you know what you've done a lot of work let me help you out and use one of my my favorite part is uh zubat supersonic attack and it like confuses uh was it flappy yeah and it's like oh and then it just [ __ ] up zuma he's like he's like all right my strategy's working and then gets thunderbolt thunderbolt just dies yeah well it's about slow as [ __ ] yeah it's coming back and then it's like as he missed he's like oh man that really sucked i probably could have hit that yeah he actually wonder what i could have i bought money because i did watch it i did watch it back i did watch it back i was curious on

46:56 that the second time i watched it uh flappy does graze the zubat with headbutts yeah so i was just about to leave it's like boom it just knocks him that makes it a lot better i can accept it yeah because like zubat was just like we slowed him down so he would die it's one of those weird parts in the movie where i don't think the animation pulled or traced it portrayed it well but flappy did does hit it yeah it's like how rhyhorn actually touches mewtwo and he's the only one to do it because you can see you can see the headbutt connect but there's like no audio confirmation that would get connected like it just showed it and then like the everything just stayed the way it was nothing like when cynical bodied that [ __ ] monkey exactly um so yeah as ash and missy making way up to the next floor uh we cut to ash's mom seeing this book and she's like molly have you read this and she's going

47:42 through and like oh entei so this is okay i'm starting to understand uh fun fact while ash's mom is searching through this book of legendary pokemon she sees the page that shows the pokemon that looks very similar to volcarona the sun pokemon implying that volcarona's concept originated at least three generations before its official release it's the one with like the sun that a face right yeah yeah bunch of flowers is the sun with the face and if you like zoom in it has like little butterfly winds going around it so it looks like volcano yeah i mean i believe it yeah uh i think what was it muna was teased back in gen 1 right where one of the trainers is just like i wish there was a pokemon that was uh like pink and had purple clouds on it or something of that name he says that i had my dream eaten by a pokemon that was pink with a flower pattern i would love an in-depth documentary of like the inside of game freak like hey

48:29 we like we drew up kyogre like day one and we're like we don't have this right so we pushed it back and we finally figured it out we made a legendary for gender like i want some kind of there's a twitter there's a twitter that i follow um if i find it i'll send it to you it's essentially just all the designs from pokemon that were rejected from gen one and two and then made it to gen uh three four five yeah ditto's evolution baby ditto though yeah actually missing continue to go up the staircase where they find like a beach and they're like okay hold on yeah hibiscus flowers yeah so obviously we know water missy's about to step up and do something but entei comes in with adult molly after kicking brock's ass and they're like oh who are you fighting next and this is like me i'm a gym leader but you're so young how could be a gym leader and entei's like if that's what

49:15 you wish and then d ages are a bit makes you like teenage level this is the point where danny's like no go back yeah come on um forget mom i got adult molly so this is my ash go i'll fight this time ash just go up the stairs and molly's like now let's have some fun floods the whole [ __ ] earth she's just like jesus that [ __ ] there was no artwork ready for it fun them all but it's like oh i can bring it under water because molly said i could yeah took me freaks out in misty's bag yeah honestly i didn't even know does just stay sucked in there like the whole time the entire time anytime they don't want to animate took me going through some [ __ ] what it is they always have togepi sleep right and then in the anime whenever some asphalt something happened he just happens to use metronome and

50:00 it's the exact same [ __ ] move that they need for that exact same fight i feed that earthquake right now i don't think we get as long of a fight with misty and molly but we get a cooler fight with a lot more moves you get an underwater battle too which doesn't happen too often so good i love watching it's like i mean kendra i'm like sweet and what's misty going to send out goldie like oh god yeah king joy headbutted the [ __ ] out of that 100 but goldie's gonna take it like there's a big [ __ ] horn in your face you walk in i mean if she wouldn't want you to send outside doctors putting it out there you think

50:45 i don't know actually i don't even i'm not even sure because uh when she goes to uh in the in elola she has her side act doesn't she yeah maybe she doesn't i know she sort of she leaves starmie at the gym togepi toga tick did i evolve yet took a kiss not not at this point i think it was just an anime period she's together she leaves it somewhere or maybe involves a token kiss no she she keeps talking kiss uh or wait no she's people and then we don't see anybody we don't see it evolved she just comes back okay and then at some tobotic episode it has the whole pidgeot saved us from the fearow energy and they stayed together from something yep totally kiss you save them mantine the way she fights with mankind

51:32 because it's like oh it's too fast so she's like well swim around where it's gonna be whirlpool it and then she's like a bubble beam and the bubbles are i'm like what's gonna hit the whirlpool and then it spins around through the whirlpool and i was like damn that was pretty funny it's a really cool fight and then misty's like oh [ __ ] i'm stuck in a whirlpool rapid spin break that [ __ ] which is really cool it is so that gives me um the vibes from uh the anime when they do contests yeah yeah dad gave me contest vibes i think some of mrs team star is one of my favorite i just love star you design wise and then yes [Laughter] i got a question you think we'll get a

52:20 bigger part in the next movie and then that pops in it's like again uh that's okay okay cool see molly missed you fight misty [ __ ] loses ash makes it to the top like mom i found you they wake up molly and this is where dally's like hey molly so hate to be that guy uh i ain't your mom i'm this guy's mom and actually we could be friends though if you want to come outside i like when he surprisingly remembers that they used to he's like he's like remember that time we played together that i didn't remember 15 minutes ago yeah i think he was just trying to pull [ __ ] yeah yes i sure hope you remember because i sure should know you can tell me about it sometime so now molly's freaking out she's like my dad's not here right now mom's like oh god she's getting ready to leave me and she has her temper tantrum in the unknown

53:06 the unknown like [ __ ] it and just start throwing up crystal spikes separating everybody um and entei's like oh my daughter's mad goes back to protect her and then we have ash kind of square up and he's like and i put a fun little game in here called uh what if ash punched this one so we remember in the first movie when ash squared up with mewtwo he didn't do that in two and here he was smart enough to send that toto out of trying to fight entei but what do we think would have happened if entei popped up and ash said that's it and just like chuck that entei like [ __ ] i can't i can't make a joke about this because it happens later in the movie yes it's fair so ash has anger issues essentially 100 years he just gets too mad and he's like [ __ ] all these mythical creatures that i carry i i love he's getting these hands

53:52 yeah i love when he throws that toe to dial and i was like hey smart that's water versus fire then he goes all right i'll fight fire with fire and he sends out and i'm like someone else keep in mind that cynical is actually weakest pokemon yeah because i forget what if cynical having the struggle of like lighting its flame like if that's a thing the beginning of the movie wouldn't tell you that though no [ __ ] you manky yeah i'm gonna get that whole scene i just want the manky fist in the ground and cynical like on the uppercut just get it right here um so yeah and uh ashley's setting up pokemon entei's blowing him back with his purple flame sacred fire whatever the [ __ ] he is don't get hit i'm gonna jump on it he just takes the fireball to his back um knocks out toed out knocks out cyndaquil

54:37 and then pikachu is playing like let's jump around can't touch him he can't hit me um but after entering the unknown kind of corner pikachu ash does the fun little i'm gonna jump in front of it gets blasted out of the window and we see ash like fall into darkness and then the movie ends psych doesn't end because who's here charizard okay i [ __ ] on charizard a lot i hate how many stream charizard it's [ __ ] annoying yeah but like this moment like as you see ash about to hit the camera and then just i'm like i love it this is the only this is the only time in living memory as i as i that i remember back in the movies seeing charizard and being as hyped as our [ __ ] yeah i think i was high because at the time he wasn't as like over explosives now yeah but we're watching this knowing that the scene

55:23 so i read a fun fact that they hid this scene from the producers and the the charismatic valley was supposed to be like when they show all the other people watching the tv around the world for two and one where they're just like oh reporting news blah blah blah blah and then the charizard thing was like a surprise it was like oh [ __ ] that's how we're gonna do it okay but i was like yeah i was like that's pretty cool that they hid that and made it like exciting for everybody watching i i tied back to this in the next episode with i compared sweet coon's reveal to charizards i think charles roberts handled significantly better oh so much we'll talk about that in the next one but um let's see hey charizard hyped up enters the like the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] he's like this is my friend charizard my friends [ __ ] friends it just starts now they

56:10 start fighting flamethrowers flying jumping another really cool battle sequence yeah so good so like we've had multiple different occurrences of battles that i really enjoy from this movie yeah the underwater and then we have like an airborne style type yeah and then the crystals like popping out of the wall yeah and say having that kind of like star-lord doctor strange and it happens with the music too that's happening underneath like i really like uh how entei's hopping up the crystals and i'm like ash is gonna be stupid he's gonna follow up the crystals even though he can cut him off and then he flies up and cuts them off and i'm like oh that's really [ __ ] cool as we get deeper into the battle let's go clearly hey people who hate pokemon 3 any more reasons because i i mean we're talking a lot and i i don't know if you just haven't had a moment to interject we're probably waiting for a pivotal

56:55 point that we're going to unleash because i am just but here's the thing i don't hate the movie okay i i think that there's a movie that i do hate um apart from the gen five one where they split them yeah what genesecs you didn't like uh genesect i didn't like but i don't i don't hate them because i donate their pokemon movies it's just that there's things that like make me not like this movie okay there's a lot of things and i'll get to it in the end sure i don't think they're they're big enough for me to cut i got you because because mine is more of i just like re-watching them now as an adult because when i was a kid i i stayed away from this movie i did not like it whatsoever and then coming back to it as an adult it's okay okay nearly as bad but it's okay did your

57:41 niece watch these with you yeah my niece this was her favorite one okay she has a kid i know look at her on the podcast because more for reasons i'll go not on podcasts she relates to molly very significantly so she's more of she sees herself kind of so her name also molly no that's so you know how badass that'll be she did her job because she loved entei she like she loved like watching like the crystals like the battles and she loved it i know everything about it no because when i was a kid i i thought the unknown was a cool concept caught him in game absolute cheese oh yeah and i was like maybe if i catch them all it's going to do something

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