Pokemon: Gotta Watch 'Em All! | PokemonRanger and the Temple of the Sea | Pokemon Movie Podcast

0:00 [Music] what's up guys welcome back to pokemon gotta watch them all the podcast where we sit around a nice uh rectangular table with a red tablecloth and talk about pokemon movies and we rank them and we talk about all kinds of fun stuff and we never started how we should we never started how we should and i always

0:45 forget that i should introduce my guests so let's go down the line real quick you know i'm trying to keep this under two hours and 50 minutes today okay so dante hey everyone i'm shuri i'm still here at this table for now for now canis hello and dwarven underscore lion yes he looked at me like oh can i say my time my self promotion is podcast christopher this early hello perfect short and sweet jonathan so i'm very confused the way you said hello because it's like are you trying to do an accent because like that sounded very like you tried doing an accent this is john john insults chris yeah that sounds like its own brand welcome i started out with the rules that i didn't mean too fast john's like

1:32 it's not my podcast but if it was i'd have you do that [ __ ] over josh all right but with all those introductions out of the way we watched pokemon ranger and the temple of the sea this week we sure did sure did um this is the second time i've immediately messaged the chat after and i've been like wow that's a movie yeah just like this uh if i had to describe it if this was a d d roll this was like a four damn [ __ ] yeah so it was interesting so we showed up uh you were filming you weren't here yet and the three of us were kind of talking uh can i chris and i and you guys were like i know where it goes on the list and you agreed and i'm like interesting because i'll mention it later when i finish the movie i'm like this goes

2:17 right here and you're like oh so i talked with that what can i when i got here we kind of did we agree yeah we did yeah we agree on where the movie belongs yeah so based on what the three of you think and not having heard what you where you think it places indefinitely i placed it much well you you implied where you think it belongs without saying directly where it belongs i was like i think it's higher than that which is interesting and i think it's because i'm such a sucker for water pokemon um that to see a lot of them yeah this movie just made me really happy the whole time but i think first impressions i think is a really good movie that has a lot of just unnecessary exposition that really drags out like this is an hour and 45 minute movie and it feels like it you can cut you can cut at least 50 off the plot it could have been like

3:03 a 50 minute movie it could have been like a solid app yeah because we talked about we compared a lot to jarachi wishmaker because it looks good you can't get it it's beautiful but it's definitely jirachi wishmaker with mei instead of max and i i think the the comparison we made was like the rv scene in drought wishes maker or it's like four days spanned over five minutes was like four times longer in this movie which added that extra like what probably 20 minutes which was well the movie because there was a little cardio one right the car is nice yeah so i imagine lucario did pretty good and they got a budget and that's why this movie ended up being longer and having so much not filler but like just yeah i'll call filler just like flop

3:53 where i said this movie feels like it did not have a budget yeah and it didn't it was the previous one previous movie didn't do as well what a life good thing next movie you got a bigger budget you might be the director of that movie and you're the reason that the next movie went just so like you don't get a budget and you make a great move yeah and you get a budget you're like let's [ __ ] it up let's [ __ ] it up with the next guy yeah i think it's because with the budget you do the whole thing we're like oh we're gonna go big and like here's the plot and you try to go big i think when you get a budget you kind of get a little complacent yeah like i'm just pokemon movies more or less it's probably easier to keep it simple though but without that let's move on to the movie so now i guess you know who picks first today

4:38 uh you do you do i do yes why are you trying to steal my guy no i don't know i swear [Laughter] do we have to do do we have to pick a water tank can we no not at all okay it's just him saying he's not picking a water type means that mine is safe yeah and then it goes that way that's all it's asking which is i go second so i'm sorry very obvious on camera all right well i go before you doesn't matter i don't know if i'm picking the water type because you made it very obvious off camera who you were picking oh yeah i'm sure i'm pretty sure i made it pretty obvious in other episodes who i was picking you said it at least yeah i know of at least two other times i think there's a third one where he

5:25 he came right i was like i'm doing this i was like and i was looking at next i picked first next week and totally skipping ahead next week's dark ride so i'm like let's go i got a [ __ ] potluck baby it's gonna be lit but we're not a dark ride we're on manafee um pokemon ranger and the temple of the sea uh fun fact which i don't think is accurate but we kind of discussed a little bit apparently this is the first movie without a psychic type main character and i mentioned that technically three didn't because entei but then yeah can i say unknown i'm like yeah main character is i don't know how that transition is the main antagonistic force yeah i guess i just they said i feel like i feel like we said the same thing when we did three we were like this is the first non-psychic type movie

6:12 and then now we say it again it's the first thing with a non-psychic legendary that is that's what it is it still feels like a psychic type because even if you don't if you treat entei as the the legendary even though it's not real it still talks so it makes you feel like it has psychic type powers also just for safety i was taking a piss early and i looked up yeah i went back when i had my phone so i was like i know unknowns weren't legendaries because i saw your notes and you wrote that but i was like just to make sure because unknowns only ever appear with legendaries right so i was like oh no millionaires they're just rare [ __ ] they felt like legendaries as a kid because they were in that movie like in such a force and the movie was named after them so it was just and there's so many there's like 26 of them that you can catch in the game 28 now 28 question mark see i thought as a kid if you caught all the different letters and all that

7:00 you could make something special you guys no you just unlocked the waste of time perfect we talked about three that's it no more three talk today that's all you need to know about one more movie no more pokemon three jumanji welcome to the world of pokemon uh honestly intro typical kind of thing uh the only really interesting thing in the intro was that there was rayquaza being like [ __ ] chased after where's that movie yeah because it's it's attila and and hun uh i get it who are the the two so when you see rayquaza like bundled up being electrocuted the two team rocket members are attila and hun

7:45 from pokemon chronicles which is raikou yeah which is not a movie it's a short like a series but yeah they're the other team rocket members which brandon and metagross lady from uh uh after we meet the bad guys like hey there's bad people out there but that's why we have the pokemon rangers introduce solana who we see for 13 seconds who's the baddest baddie of pokemon rangers this movie should have been about her but i'll digress anyway and she's got a cool little kickboxing puzzle there he's just like punching the air really cute yeah because all the water types are putting out a fire and plus was like

8:34 yes yeah we fit boxing let's go i think if john had picked plussel for this movie and not the last one probably would have won but he did a lot more um so yeah a few little more set pieces and it's like oh boy this movie's about ash not solana that's all right we got a nice weird transition yeah we had a little establishing shot of underwater we have this weird floating mysterious egg we don't know what this thing is the whole like pokemon swimming by each other transitioning into another i was like this is cool i like this and then it's just like egg and it's just yeah but we get the setup of like hmm this egg is gonna be important but we don't know what yet uh and as this thing's kind of floating through the water these really just unsettling cg helicopters come out

9:20 and we see like the side of a dude's head and i forgot about the metallic funk from the valentine like it's like following the egg it's like moon talk [ __ ] collides i read that it's a cg helicopter i was like interesting couch no helicopters it's just like a little dome with a glass window and a hat and then when he gets inside of it he starts it up the propeller comes out the back and the hat collapses in the propeller sorry daddy i don't know why i started i'm so sorry i'm here i'm like are we talking about meet the robinsons talking about the gnome helicopter danny

10:07 yeah and then what's going on anyway they they get the egg and they're like i'm gonna take this egg i'm gonna put they just get a big [ __ ] submarine because they really need the overkill for this egg just be like got it put it away um they have a nice little like team meeting and i put sticky beard because at this point we didn't get his name but uh we meet captain stickybeard and his chat who is like one of the most forgettable pokemon in existence he's probably the only one who willingly caught one of those with chatter um so yeah they capture the egg mr pirates like cool i'm here and then we get our first

10:53 there's two types of men in this world the first one those who have unlimited desires and those who do not so when i heard that i was like damn that's really deep for a pokemon thing and then i sat there eating my [ __ ] lunch and i was like no it's not i was like this [ __ ] just said oh there's one there's people that are right-handed and left-handed and those who are not yeah and i'm right-handed and i neither um so yeah mr pirate man who we learned later is the phantom so i'll go with that so the phantom goes into his nice little assembly room and gets the egg in this like capsule he's like now that i have this i can finally get the c crown but unfortunately our friendly neighborhood blonde grunt says sark sark mark sorry guys psych guy he [ __ ] up the plan he said he said

11:38 sorry suck he's like i'm jackie sark i'm gonna take your egg he's like yo you're in this for selfish desires i'm gonna take it away and then we get this cool like chasing or like park horse through the submarine this is the most extra [ __ ] man i've ever met there are so many times where like they're just not even going for him and can just walk around he [ __ ] runs sideways on the wall he steps on pots and [ __ ] to like flip them on their head listen and they're just yeah they're just like oh [ __ ] i'm high oh he stopped becoming the hero after this scene yeah because then it all became about ash the chosen one so we don't this is why i said this guy is in the wrong dance this is how they draw attention is they're like super cool mega spy opening because every time he's on screen he's doing something cool and it's just like okay he is and

12:24 jackie's a badass and this made me want to go back and play all the pokemon ranger games um but he does they have like a weird like i put escalator because he's like an escalator ladder he goes up oh my god he killed those guys i guess he like just [ __ ] kicks a metal bar into a bee and these guys are just like you can like hear their spine they like scrunch through the battle yeah the one dude just like falls that's like 30 feet right like you don't you do not see this man move after like he comes up and falls and then there's the other guy that's like just getting [ __ ] brushed up so this guy is running through the corridors like hey it's me calls into whatever pokemon ranger organization we have he's like it's jack walker i got the eop like the [ __ ] what and she said something like you mean the this is like no the egg of the prince stupid she's like

13:10 you're cute they're totally [ __ ] like the best events of the press or something like that no egg of the prince you can't just make up acronyms but you know what though that that's fine she was cute and she had two different colored eyes oh yeah and then she's gone she appears one more time just the old man from [ __ ] lucario exactly i'm here anyway so jack gets to the top of the ship he's got the egg he gets cut off by all the pirate men and then mr mr phantom's like you can't fight me i'm a pirate and sends out his two bug type pokemon which yeah yeah totally represent see this is where i where i thought they were going to take the team aqua approach but they which they totally look like pirates you know they they they have insects

13:58 but i think pirates i think bugs dirty insert and parasect you know not like sharpedo yeah [ __ ] oh my god why did they not give these guys water type pokemon oh it's too easy uh we forgot the he has another uh i don't know the meaning of the word when he's talking to the lady oh does he yeah the lady says something he's like she's like you better watch out or you're gonna like fail he's like failure i don't know the meaning of the word and she's like i'll let you borrow my dictionary yeah and then this is where this is a comment i said i had to make because it confuses me because homeboy the pirate he's like i'll let you borrow my dictionary and he says it in a way he's like yeah i heard her i was like you listen yeah you're like three feet below her like [ __ ] three stories what yeah because i had mentioned to chris we were talking about on discord i

14:44 was like i remember the there's two type of people and i don't know the meaning of like being repeat jokes throughout the entire thing and i don't or there's two types of people is i don't know the meaning it's really just a one-two off thing so i was like i remember that happening more but i digress um um he tries that pincer is going to cleave that man in half that pizza be extra backflip that pins are new hyperbole i just remember hearing like he's like oh my pokemon will stop you and then just here remember capture top go and i was like whoa like infinitely louder audio yes to the movie see jack discovers a mantine he's like i gotta get out of here use this pokemon ranger it's a capture styler throws it at the man time catches it

15:30 does his cool little gymnastics thing now i can escape hops on it dives underwater comes back up confused ray it's my favorite part of the movie in between when he comes back up when he dives pincer [Laughter] i'm really excited to see how that sounds on the microphone spiked over here can i bring it up and say why is anybody using pokeballs that this thing is just like yeah it's like because i caught it because the pokemon rangers are temp so if anyone has to play the pokemon ranger games the rangers don't capture they get one like this that they don't yeah but and so they said

16:17 yeah they get one like partner pokemon it's like solana beginning has plus all right and jackie doesn't really have one it's not like he stood there it was like yeah so he you catch that pokemon he just did it once to help you with the task and then once you don't really touch you let it go because it's like thank you for helping goodbye also ash must be a ranger but he does that timing corals watching this movie he really wanted to be one yeah i mean i want to be like jackie he knew about him what a dumb ass you could have been like yo [ __ ] off zygarde i don't care what you think [ __ ] you see bush's wife is really confused when they gave greninja an ash form because i'm like he's just going to let this guy go yeah he's going to be relevant he needed to sell merchandise okay yeah pokemon ranger it's like cool that's a ranger bye title card movie thing cool setting went animation

17:03 cool now we meet ashland gang who are walking through some scorching heat they go to drink some water it's all dried up and make it's pissy when it's not even max's fault i made the joke the joke on my notes it was like when it showed that backed up like pam it was just showed the wasteland i was like oh damn it's breath of the wild it's empties um yeah here as they start to talk it's like the first movie we have with the recast voice actors so everybody sounds really weird and it's like off-putting we're coming from dioxis to this like no one sounds right um but if you watch battlefront here you're probably used to the voices but i think they re-recast then after are they the same since frontier yeah okay you might be let us know in the comments i just know they all shared a nice hearty carton of [ __ ] menthols one

17:48 day that's right it's me ash ketchum kinda i [ __ ] died like seven times i choose you pikachu and here comes out like this um yeah ash notices like this big ass bubble over the hills they go running towards it they meet this nice young lady who's dancing with pokemon they have a meditating meta jam like using psychic to polly toad who won't stop [ __ ] clapping great little guy also revoiced also revoiced i was happy with this one he was smoking i was happy

18:35 probably just because he's not [ __ ] uh they were customers or whatever you gotta get rid of the polytube different colors i'm better with it than squirtles would cast yeah the meta type midi chamber like oh you're cute they make a little pikachu bubble say hi welcome to nice to meet you and they meet elizabeth who's like this important family circus she's the lead act and brock's like going crazy over her i don't know i blew a book yeah he's like oh i love you you're my favorite uh max does the ear pull thing that everybody loves wasn't even clever this time he just goes i got your ear and now i'm taking you i was like cool great joke buddy um yeah she's a part of the marina underwater pokemon show she's a star uh they kind of just jab her for a bit

19:20 like this is your family mae makes a compliment about the mom she's like yo you could be her sister oh keep going i mean it just like knocked me in the [ __ ] floor and it's like all right let's see um yeah so like you guys thirsty come on oh actually before we get that kristen i also talked on discord a little bit there's a weird thing with pokemon and drinking water because i was very confused because i was i was like so they're complaining about not about not having water it's hot we have nothing to drink and then later on there's a part they're like do you have water type pokemon there is three of them that say yes yeah so they all have water types but the thing is like my primary concern is that what constitutes what the cannon can't

20:05 drink or okay so i was under the impression the bubbles were made from water type water being formed by meta jam and meta type but that water came from a pokemon that that is my understanding right and then they drank it yeah so max is like i want it so realistically though you're just drinking pokemon spit yeah so like or whatever they create in their aquaponics still coming out of your mouth i create vomit in my stomach and spit it out it still came out of my mouth yeah it's still weird but yeah so it's blasters coming up though sure that and i think that's like that's where it's weird but any pokemon that goes it's like i'm eating spit i'm drinking sweet like whenever like you see like like the early stages like

20:52 squirtled like using like hydro pump or like water plus you see that you see that unless he has rabbit's feet where it comes out the holes in the shell it's that guy who chugs the whole bottle and spits it all back in brushes i think the situation of what i don't know won't kill me yeah yes but then i guess the logic is if that poke water came from a pokemon they easily could have just been like squirtle water gun thank you let's keep walking you know like this just keep it going whole movie could avoid it if they just did that so realistically they didn't have a problem but yeah plot said you don't have water tonight we got to meet manaphy yeah this this seems to be this seems to be a common theme of this movie by the way so in the manga that happens a lot where pokemon uh trainers in the desert and they'll just bring out their water type yeah or like if they're hungry and there's a pidgey flying around they usually like you'll need it they'll get their pokemon

21:37 to chase it down cook it um i hope you voted pidgeot uh so yeah the gang their family invites him inside let's get some water max is playing with an adorable [ __ ] weasel i don't think may has weasel yet so it's not me who gets the weasel it's dawn because i had to google it i was like does may have herb weasel because why is homeboy playing with the blizzard oh never pedophile so yeah and then i had to look it up and i was like okay so it's dawn who was the weasel girls have apon there wasn't a palm in this movie that i don't know where it came from it was actually okay and then trades it for weasel later yeah but i i thought that was like a safe season weasel weasel i've been saying it wrong the

22:23 whole time um so yeah that's where because i knew this wasn't our hero's weasel but i thought apom wasn't like i don't know what's so there's a weird thing in this movie where you never know who the [ __ ] pokemon is who's yeah because there's a part where like poor fish is out i'm like oh that's cool and then he's just with everybody else in navigation the rest of the movie but i think that's ash's core fishing because that's left and then his children whose [ __ ] dawn fans that i don't remember ash having a dawn fan i was like who's who's is that who's the boy who's pokemon i brought this up earlier because i was just like wait why does may has an eevee yeah there's a part of me that doesn't i

23:08 remember a lot of everything before advance and then i watched advanced very sporadic oh okay there's a point there's a point in time where may had like all five of her pokemon out and then she had evie and i was like i do not remember that when did that happen yeah because i think dawn doesn't get needy but serena gets an evil dog gets a navy dog gets an eevee gets lazy she does she does like a beauty contest she has like glacion and a mammoth swine okay right stop using evie all the [ __ ] time no because the girls have to get you because i understand ev sells yeah i i know that's why i have two copies of let's go eevee thanks aunt gladys no she went to a yard digress she went to yard sales past weekend saw a switch game bought it gave it to me and i'm like oh cool i can just copy the pokemon off it

23:54 i guess and i'm like it's switch the date is off i just have two copies of the same game i mean oh it doesn't matter i'll take the other one okay let's go easy i offered it to connor but he never said yes so okay sorry connor you missed your sorry connor yeah you're watching one shot watching this going like oh damn it that was my game you should have voted for pidgeot the car's going to watch just to get pissed anyway same statement gang goes inside drink some water weasel's like you're max you're cute but i'm gonna go play with this [ __ ] incubator up here turns it on what's this weird egg mei's like weird and dad's like sorry you can't [ __ ] look at that [ __ ] and then walks away and this happens like five or six more times where somebody weasel won't leave this [ __ ] egg alone like homie's just like oh cute it's the connection between the water pokemans

24:40 yeah of course i get it but uh so yeah the family is like you know what you guys are pretty cool you want to come see our show i'm glad you talked about this okay so they go to the show they have a good time the crowd's like oh this is awesome team rocket's sneaking through um and weasel's over there just like oh look the egg again knocks it off the [ __ ] counter happens to grab it and save its life um that as the show's going on the the family you know they're popping off being cool and they start like hey our new friends are here let's bring them on the show so i think pikachu's chilling on ash's shoulder and polly toad's like what's up [ __ ] and just like sucks so i immediately saw that and like in my head ash is like wow cool and polly told like i'm a drowning rat let's take it and i was like is it

25:28 is it all water is it just like a yeah like is it just water with everything right and this is where science kicks in so when you're breathing they can't drink the water i won't shrink if there's air in the bottle right you should okay just making sure it wasn't like thinking that the whole time logic doesn't [ __ ] matter not in this opening cut scene because sure the um i had the note down written too i was like okay okay so apparently psychic water bubble equals air because there's pl there's been plenty of times in this move in these movies where the characters were like oh i can't i suddenly can't breathe trust me they even do it in this movie happens like five times later in a row they even do it in this movie i was like okay but we forgot we've apparently forgotten that logic now so yeah family's like cool we brought our friends up big finale pop the bubbles sparkle

26:14 water fire works awesome this is the weakest opening by the way so in my opinion i don't wanna agree and say it's the weakest it's definitely the least exciting because everything else is like a battle or something height this is very much just like welcome to the circus but we get that almost every movie we do we get there's always like a festival that like accidentally oh oh oh you know what other movie had a circus that they ended up in giraffes maker [ __ ] maker you know what jirachi wasn't even around yet it was in like a crystal form so they were both dominant pokemon was still in slumber noted same movie okay they're in a festival a big guy with blue hair or purple hair comes in and

27:01 says copy tata what happened see it weasel's [ __ ] around so he's carrying i don't know where he's going with the egg but he's carrying it out of the rv trips and knocks it down may catches it and we have this special clown man who's like don't worry i got it it takes it and he's like weasel don't [ __ ] do that without saying words is it safe to say that he was probably gonna eat it because that's not maybe dude they eat eggs they still eggs from birds sure so it's safe to say he was just gonna like num numb on this thing maybe but then it comes back to like water pokemon or attracted to to manafee like because that was a connection i was going for and it felt really awkward that weasel was carrying this away and outside yeah it doesn't make sense the family was protecting it so the theoretically the weasel would know that they're trying to keep it sheltered and

27:46 it's carrying it out yeah the only thing i could think is it probably better if mei walked in as weasel knocked it off the bed and then tried to catch it and then clown's like hey don't [ __ ] do that i don't know why i had to come outside whatever pokemon's a mess um why was [ __ ] on this movie it's a good movie best movie so far stop uh and i mean like also like like that time when um when jackie well the clown is sees them and she sees me just holding the egg without any context was he was he not like like like she's trying to steal this like like when she went to go tell the the family member yeah that's what i would have done personally like hey with these people we've been carried around they're trying to steal this watch though jackie's a champ he knows

28:32 he knows he's these people are good of heart he probably just went and tattled on the [ __ ] voice will say keep your pokemon in check he's gonna ruin our [ __ ] mission um team rocket they're chilling in the crowd and they're like there's a team rocket magazine that goes out i guess the team rocket gazette or whatever everywhere this is once again proving that team rocky just says all the things um which has the phantom the egg all the stuff and then uh see james like hey uh mr phantom 1-800 we found your egg oh wait i'm out of change it hangs up so that's all you found your egg so i guess the phantom's like all right we're on it there's all kinds of people we know exactly where to go so elizabeth and her family they give the gang the ride to the next town everybody's sleeping i don't know how far the next town was but everyone's

29:17 sleeping weasels again [ __ ] with the egg as usual and then it starts to glow red which is now [ __ ] with me in her sleep she has this amazing dream and i'd love to have this dream myself swimming underwater a bunch of water pokemon until she sees this weird little baby thing going like screaming and doing whatever and then flies off to some underwater temple so this dream confused the [ __ ] out of me okay because she's all hot happy excited she sees the city and she's like wow that's beautiful and the man if he's like maybe maybe he's [ __ ] beaker's way over to the city and she's like no what are you doing like why are you mad that it's going over to the pretty city like i had the same thoughts but obviously mae was concerned with the baby flying away because she knows she's gonna be his mommy but uh she wakes up crazy it's like

30:02 you're good i'm fine i'm great um yeah after she wakes up everyone's like yeah let's have a nice little dinner by the creek they're collecting water making pizza it's great uh and then team rocket sneaks in the rv and they're like we're gonna take this egg we'll give it to the phantom they're gonna love us they're gonna love us forever uh also phantom's watching this episode she's gonna like what what are you talking about all right so yeah maze was like i had this weird dream last night there was a temple and stuff and then elizabeth's like let's tell her guys you're a people of the water you're a water which it was funny looking at the family because every time they said that i'm like they say maze black yeah is that what they're doing my favorite part is max is like wow you're a descendant of the people of water

30:51 oh me too [ __ ] uh why does this just sound unimpressive yeah because it's about as bad as arborville so here's the thing is people people are seventy percent water we're all people of color we're all kind of people of water they're gonna cover better it just sounds like they could i think is it like a direct translation like in japanese i didn't wanna i didn't look it up and i feel like i'm a hundred percent sure that in the ocean people i think in the japanese when they focus more heavily on manafi being a prince than there being a temple that matters that makes a lot of problems yeah so i don't know what the translation if anyone knows in the comments let us know i don't know what the translation is for people of the water what they call it japanese elizabeth was 17.

31:38 good for elizabeth no elizabeth is 16. she's not 30. trust me you're dumb thank you osmosis jones i hope you come back one day anyway so yeah they're like hey you might be a people of the water cool team rocket's still [ __ ] with the egg when all of a sudden it starts to glow and then they all switch bodies so jesse becomes meow james becomes jesse and mouth becomes james which is funny for a few antics for like 15 minutes so there's the part where they're like another egg and i was like are are they referring to other movies is this a joke like this is a lot like jirachi because there's only as far as i remember there's only one other movie with an egg oh they started talking about movies because i know i know it was just weird

32:23 it was just weird that they were like another yeah eggs that have been within the group there's a hand that you have together larvitar um didn't james have an egg at one point oh and dioxis dioxis was also kind of an egg yeah like a stone egg yeah um did james have an egg i don't know i don't know what his team like i said my mom junior didn't have advanced knowledge sure but i can't remember if james i remember right though and then they go i'll never make another egg joke again and that was kind of funny yeah and then they do this john was pissed because like no i want all the engines they were like what do we do what did they say they were like what do what do we tell the boss and i was like why does that [ __ ] matter

33:09 because we switched yeah you can't all he wants is the pikachu yeah he's wondering if i send you out of the continents because he [ __ ] hates you like wow james you're packing like give him some props well there's there's the part where jesse's running as meow that's i i so family still explaining the people of the water they lived in harmony with water type pokemon and to receive the blessing of the sea they built the sea temple which then was like hey this is our palace of water pokemon and water people it's great um people the water can still see it in their dreams the temple therefore may and maybe max or descendants of the people of water they really don't harp on this anymore they kind of said you might be but that's it and i guess these later they get the bracelet but so doesn't ash basically becomes the people of the water homies just like i'll take over

33:55 we're good oh spaghetti see and then i put them on like so that norman's the people of the water so he should have been a water type gym leader [ __ ] your slacking whatever well that's just the mom's through the sink take care of my daughter uh so the gang they walk into the rv discover team rocket they do the motto which is all [ __ ] because they're in the wrong bodies i thought that was great um so they run away uh hop out the window and then the clown's chasing him down like he's on a [ __ ] mission what's going on with this weird clown i don't get it um they hop on their sky bike and start to fly away ash is like pikachu thundershock and the

34:41 clown's like hold on there i got this you'll kill the egg there's something valuable on there we don't want to harm it so he's like hmm there's a thero i need it beyblade and then and then ma [ __ ] ash immediately is like is that a capture one i was like i was like i know i'm sorry i was a pokemon ranger in training um ash knows everything in the movies something in the show fun fact the fearow that jackie capture is supposedly a reference to the original pokemon ranger game where you meet a pokemon ranger in ringtown named spencer whose partner pokemon is firo oh nobody chooses a sparrow a firo spencer david spencer david there's not that many points i'll choose a pg over i'm just saying solana took the plus so he didn't have

35:27 many other options [ __ ] you imagine firo just can we get a gift for that i want to give just the plus i'll just be great um anyway also this is the same plus like it's getting out by me pikachu jumps on fire's back they fly up pikachu's like sup [ __ ] i'm about to shock you anyway they're like oh no please don't he's like psych grabs it and jumps off i was about to be really mad at that scene if he electrocuted the balloon he's like why what was the point of the furo and then he grabs the egg and i was like still kind of what was the point like

36:12 it's just free falling now yes and then i got it obviously they had to get the egg so pikachu took glenn's back on fear of if he was up pop they fall and die as usual and they go back down and ash is like yo is that a capture styler oh man this is the guy from earlier it's jack walker aka aka captain america [Music] usa you're a [ __ ] degenerate [ __ ] walker anyway um so yeah that jackie's like listen last week's episode man in context for you guys it was last week's episode you're on episode four now or this week's episode we're talking episode three jackie anyway jackie's like this is an egg for

36:58 manaphy the prince of the sea i have to protect it so they say i'm delivering it to the temple of the sea in like samia samia that's the only time they say that word like it never comes up again so i'm like it's irrelevant but this is the time when uh he also says something and then his mouth keeps moving animation's hard we gotta help we gotta help them in a big way so i imagine that like they just gave you so much story in the japanese and in english it's like oh we'll condense into a couple words one eight hundred fan seven out of five seven out of ten too much water 7.5 out of 10. um uh if you're a pops of thing yep all right cool and then the big ugly cgi helicopters show up again and the phantom is just like grunts chase them and of course he goes there's two type of people in this world

37:45 those who are those who are chased and those who get chased okay so now hang on you just said that there were two people and now there are other two so now there's technically four types of people there's four type people in the world okay oh don't don't worry we're getting more okay just doesn't necessarily it's like a venn diagram i'm just trying i'm trying to keep on typing my people because there's also people in the water too like unlimited desire limited desire chaste chaser it's just and the meadow's just water people are people water people are all of them they have unlimited desires yet limited they are chasers and chased water people as always for racism i don't know i don't like it it's just like every time he's like there's two types of people like it's like you're drooping yourself into too many

38:32 different peoples man so as they're running away from the phantom they run behind a rock jackie's like i got a blanket and then he takes off with the blanket as he sneaks away uh ash is like i got this and he walks away with the actual egg he was actually smart like i saw it i was like okay so he's either going to hand it off or like he did that for some reason yeah and then yeah see he takes the egg switch roof on times and as he like phantom jumps in front of jackie jackie takes like he rips away the bike and he's like i got juggling balls i guess and just chucks him in phantom i don't want him that bad take them super unnecessary scene where he gets swatted by the ball after he swats it away he's super unnecessary bam wait for one time where mineta if you would have been this would approve the belonging class

39:20 1a yeah um yeah i think i like this moment and unfortunately like after this happens like one more time we kind of lose it but like jackie has like a lot of spider-man energy or peter parker energy with his banter and we lose that like really fast which sucks so yeah he's like he he hit himself in the [ __ ] face [ __ ] loser and then phantom like picks up a [ __ ] rock chucks it and jackie's like whoa you're strong do you take vitamins and stuff like [ __ ] that's funny and then and then not only does he say that [ __ ] phantom replies because he goes right away he gets him on the rock he's like all right you aren't going to get me he picks up the boulder he's standing he's like oh you take vitamins um now we cut ash is being chased by

40:06 beedrill and the sidekick whose name i keep forgetting because he was so irrelevant um he's like pedro you sludge bomb i've never seen a bijo use sludge bomb that was a very interesting animation where like the whole drill that was cool it was pretty cool uh but are we gonna ignore the [ __ ] finger gun pin missile where she's like [Laughter] it because all the water pokemon were too busy they're in later in the film it's like as cool as cool as this bedroom [ __ ] is like why is this why is this a barrel bag that's like i'm saying they could

40:52 just easily get given a phantom a sharpedo yeah and it would have fit perfectly in context he also wouldn't have needed a later machine so so may ash hands the egg off to may ash stays to fight mae and max run off phantom cuts them off they have a little like tug of war there and as they like rip the lid off man if his egg goes flying mae catches it and then jackie's like wait stop let me have it everyone gets held back and the egg hatches in mei's hands therefore manafee comes to life and says you're the first person i see you're mommy so you you you don't know like you [ __ ] do this and everywhere i would like i don't know what the thought came in but like he mentioned matthew would have came out

41:38 really [ __ ] up because he's been like tossed around he's just like is fiona a birth is that an egg pokemon so i think they both are egg pokemon okay but typically it's the only you get well mythical you could breathe yes you typically get theo to evolve into manifest theon doesn't evolve yeah how does that work it's one of the it's one of those situations where i feel this pokemon was created it's like with lucario was created before the you have to breathe yeah and then you got a feeling but it doesn't evolve right i always forget how that works it's weird because it's a cosmog cosmogol and boy thing it's i don't know like in theory theon should evolve into manaphy it just

42:25 doesn't pokemon's [ __ ] just you didn't need to make two of them no one asked for a second one okay okay you also touched on the thing i was going to talk about coming up after manafie is born sees may um everyone's like wow look at this cute little pokemon there's a moment where the action kind of just comes to a wall and no one really thinks there's any bad guys so the phantom looks him at me and he's like he's like i got my pirate but i wanted to be the one there like it's just a very it's like the guy was sick for reshoot so they called it a separate dude to do the lines again i never said anything about manafee except for i need it to find a city yeah yeah now he suddenly wanted to hatch it i think in context knowing manafi's purpose it would make sense it's not explained so if you're not a kid it doesn't really

43:12 hit yeah but logically if he hatched manafee manafee thinks phantom's mama therefore i will do what mama wants so i will help him find the city so i think reading between the lions kind of thing there is really the logic but again i just like to think that phantom this entire time is going is just doing a pirate act yeah and that's his actual voice oh that that voice actor comes back later as a sharpie um no no no no just imagine phantom reveals he's a pokemon ranger testing jackie exactly the gang starts to run away jackie pops in he's like hey phantom stop throws him into the enemy they hop in the rv and just kind of take off like let's get it

43:59 the rv there is like ace it looks like a cut scene from an old final fantasy game yeah like the way it's cg'd and just the textures on it i'm like that looks like a final fantasy vii final fantasy 8 era cut scene of a goofy ass vehicle from one of those games um so yeah they're on the rv maze [ __ ] or man if he's [ __ ] crying may's like it's all right i'll make stop finally makes it stop and elizabeth's mom's like i'll take over see hands man if he starts crying again it's like look sorry i got nothing that's your baby i can't bother that you are well i've already i've already done this um yeah pikachu sense of something going on they poke their head out ash climbs up on the bunk bed and just [ __ ] stands on the bed with his dirty [ __ ] shoes it's like oh no the phantom and his gang are back so the phantom's like let's move in we gotta chase him down they [ __ ] harpoon the rv try and yank it back off the road

44:44 eventually everyone just moves to the front car disconnect rv gone that [ __ ] probably wasn't cheap i love all of the people that don't make sense to stumble when they're crossing like the father and the mother who are like ideally in great shape they're like oh the kids are like and then the old man is like [ __ ] ninja moves like i got it dude's like prepared to disconnect this rv and the [ __ ] parents like look they're just like tripping over themselves so rv goes barreling off the cliff it's just a harpooned in it the helicopters kind of get drugged with it so they lose track of everybody if this was any other any other movie about pokemon those helicopters would have exploded yeah absolutely i was expecting them to in pokemon

45:30 i like to think that they did yeah i thought those people died i had the whole scene in my head it was going to flip bounce like pop up hit one hit the others no every video game manga anime movie if there's a helicopter those people are [ __ ] dead oh yeah like at this point i think we learned that like yeah this is why the cg helicopter is not a good idea yeah and also this is a solid reason as to why normally attack helicopters have machine guns not hard ones listen pirates very hot that's a horrible idea the harpoon yeah the hulk just got a harpoon no you can't afford everything okay no guns in pokemon just get out of there you really have to drive home the fact that phantom is except um so i'm very positive that rv is heavier than a helicopter helicopters are made very light right

46:16 that's why i drug two of them now so the family continues to drive the like the car to this abandoned temple where we find out oh that's where team rocket is that's where they landed they switched back to the normal places we got wobba fett like lab and then my mind cute fun little moment mimicking everything um and this part just has some weird pacing where like the phantom and his crew are right behind the family but just never happens to catch up because they don't have water pokemon as slow as everybody is you don't see them for like this is like i said i started to fall asleep during part of this movie and it was right here because for some reason it just stops being about phantom chasing manafee for like 40 minutes yeah it turns into it this is where our heart goes the villain disappeared for a minute yeah now we're talking about the temple

47:02 and we're figuring out manafort i did fall asleep around this area yeah i had to pause it look at the time when he re like when homeboy returns and i was like there's like [ __ ] 25 30 minutes left yeah because i feel like they've forgotten because he says the line where they're like like we've been following them undetected so he's like good keep it that way good and it's like did you forget he existed at this point the family and phantom's crew are all separately walking through this tomb to find something about the people of the water they get to this dead end they're like you guys have water pokemon we do yes and then they put their magical smart

47:48 watch bracelets up to the wall it opens up they go forward and everyone hops in the water with the water pokemon swim to this weird cathedral thing that tells the story of the temple uh phantom's crew walks in he's like oh i have a bracelet too but i only have bug types i'm gonna turn around um could you imagine if this [ __ ] had something just this is why this side is the only reason why i assume they didn't give them water pokemon they're like okay they're going to escape we have to understand in the water with water pokemon they're pirates aren't they give them bugs give them bugs um yeah manafee's here too man if he kind of just gets dead silent anyway uh catches up

48:34 okay for the rest yeah so this is kind of where we hit the part of what i was saying earlier we had the jirachi like rv moment that was like five minutes of fast forward this is like 30 minutes of nothing four days where i feel like a lot happens that doesn't condense it all like so one afternoon of activities there's there's a part where they're like what's on the like plan for today and like elizabeth is like me and brock are gonna make food and it's like why do i care just [ __ ] get to the temple i think the only real expedition we get like there's a couple point like grandpa calls in for his boat from his old crew and they're like oh like look i'm getting a little ahead of myself hold on yeah yeah um yeah the gang enters cathedral

49:20 that's like this is the temple of the sea uh it the inside is the sea crown it's the treasure that's been coveted for years anyone goes after it but no one can get it because mortals can't see it only people the water can uh but the only way we can see it is if manafee reveals it what's that like gods like what they are they're people of the scene this is why mei can you sing [Music] [Laughter]

50:08 that will make the movie so much better yeah so manafee supposedly is the only one that can find the temple if we follow man if it will be good uh this is where phantom backtracks is i can't catch him it's fine team rocket's like hey i'm going to call you about the egg you want any help he's like you all can clean [ __ ] floors let's go how are you at cleaning the dirtiest yeah i was kind of funny though we're just like yeah we're really bad at it like it's what but yeah the phrasing of the dirtiest like it threw me off for a while oh okay okay um [ __ ] laugh dancing yes the gang that all of a sudden has these boats

50:54 and they're sailing down the river the water starts to glow and jackie's like hey guys i appreciate your help so far but it's time for you to go a pokemon ranger needs to handle this and then he doesn't but unfortunately and it's just because jackie ends up in the wrong place the wrong time while everyone else is doing the real [ __ ] um but the gang stops for ice cream man if he's sleeping this is where grandpa's crew shows up and they're like we've had fun with your boat we want to come too he's like no no no no you're my friends you have to stay here i'll we'll get a drink and i they're like we'll get a drink when i get back i'm like alcohol in pokemon oh reference they don't specifically yeah yeah you know it's it'll be nice we talked about krabby movie too and then i was like no but i have crabbies um see i hear they're like the family

51:40 and jackie like hey was i telling you guys we're gonna go take care of manafee take care um and me and ash are like i'm not really done with this adventure and old people are like you're young get your ass in that boat the one dude in the crew is the narrator for the movie though that the world of pokemon is like he's the old man's like [ __ ] i forgot to record for this episode in the world of pokemon you kids should go on an adventure like it's it's pretty great um since we're kind of done with the leg like that whole time skip it so the only bit that i could even correlate that to is they really want to harp in because it's the it's part of a moment that's upcoming is how attached mae and mae and manafi are together because there's like the whole thing with where max is like i guess you really are a mom

52:27 yeah thanks for the advice and it's like there's ways to kind of have us give us the gist and keep progressing they could just have may walk like two feet away if you cry yeah and that would have been better than this whole time right time stamped which they kind of did with hand over to mom oh sorry i can't yeah that could work right there already that gives us enough information say all right we see where this is going but then they're like hey you really gotta get this guys they're together and we do get a few moments that i think are i won't say necessary but are important words like may's talking to manaphy it's like i'm teaching you how to say happy i'm teaching you how to say i love you you know and so i'm saying the word may so at the end of the movie you hear i love you may instead of you know i just love you mama or nine yards but um if you have no [ __ ] idea what you

53:12 said like a parent ah um so yeah manafee manatee wakes up because it was asleep as they sailed away and it uses heart swap or whatever they call the ability which switches jackie and ash's bodies so now jackie's left on the shore so the real flaw here is they had to stop the boat to go back and get jackie but heart swap is temporary so i guess really they could have just kept sailing but they did say man if you would have had to stop they would have stopped manifesting from crying but the the old the grandpa said i don't know what happens if you get too far away which is the only time that i think they try to explain is like well that's why they stopped here's my question about this whole thing

53:57 why couldn't they even go in the first place because this is a job for a pokemon ranger yeah but he's not the only person going he's taking the people of the world people of the water this is their temple i i still don't know might be like this this is one of the scenes we can't land those parts one of those situations where i was just like okay we could have gotten rid of like 10 to 15 years absolutely you were absolutely right though just having them go with them yeah absolutely i'm [ __ ] around but i agree it's it's imagine max took ancestry.com it's like you guys aren't black you're not it's not point four percent especially especially if you know the fact that man if he's gonna freak out it's not there like i don't know yeah it was definitely moments where it's just like okay you seem to be learned in this situation but at the same time you seem to be [ __ ] dumb

54:43 it's another instance of that's how they could have shown may manifest bond without all the [ __ ] that happened before um so yeah they go back pick up the gang maze happy with manafee again teaches it the word happy uh man if he's like happy happy uh and then i think after that they start like yo say this say ash he was like say max and he goes oh man he's like you said max you [ __ ] said max like no i like her oh are you sure um so like yeah now at this point man if he has to choose his own path so they [ __ ] chucked it we'll go to chuck the [ __ ] in the water and it just jumps and now this is where like the four day fall manafee session happens um and then all of a sudden the boat gets like a lot bigger than it was but they have like that aquarium underneath and they can kind of watch and i love this i love being able to

55:30 watch the water pokemon like if i was on this boat i'd [ __ ] live in that room just to be watching everything yeah um until a [ __ ] lantern would like come to win i'm like i have to go swimming i have to go play with this [ __ ] lantern dude i [ __ ] i gotta go do it right now that's okay it's fine it's cute um there's a couple times we get to show up where elizabeth's father and grandfather are like hey again weird unnecessary but i guess builds were like yo if we get to the temple on the full moon we might be able to see it which wasn't specified earlier but now is so yeah full moon why do we care about that in particular it's just like the their their plan is to see the temple like cool and they they let us know this three to four times in the movie yeah okay cool um couldn't you just have

56:16 dialed this down to one moment when they see the temple i was like oh man so amanda fanton used to swim she's with the whalmer and the waylord um jumps out of the water hugs may uh and this is where jackie's kind of like they're getting too close if they keep getting closer we're not gonna be able to let manafee go um let's see again game takes a break they go swimming uh oh ash is like jackie why'd you become a pokemon ranger and jackie tells us nice stories like once i was in the tundra somewhere i got lost it was cold but a bunch of swablu ataria for it they kept me warm so i was like i wanna help pokemon now and ash is like sick i wanna be a pokemon ranger ash went through the same experience so he had his own blister but he had like charmander

57:03 yeah like there was other people charmander was the one that charmander kept him warm and then after charlie brown got tired they just bundled up and that's when they're like onyx found a hot spring if i ever think of the equivalent of a jiren backstory right here it just happens and it's like okay i guess we're better for learning this um we got a couple underwater montages swimming pokemon love disc whole nine yards uh yeah oh by the way i hated watching love disc swim it looked like it was just seizing in the woods did anybody catch one use it i caught one for the pokedex use it no i only caught them in gen 6 because that's what you needed for the movie learner in the very limited experience that i had of emerald before remakes came out i

57:49 caught love this because i thought it evolved i'll use that why they even make a loma mola honestly [Music] this should evolve into corvus is that what it's called gorgeous evolve into that that that two evolution line makes so much sense to me sure they're based on the same [ __ ] thing i'll give it yeah i mean i like hunt either either way i'm picking hunter on this any day but um may teachers i love you to manafee cool uh a lot of swimming here uh yeah this is where i said like a mess with the movies pacing where they just keep stopping to swim

58:36 get ice cream hang out with the pokemon it also makes me wonder about this boat size because they go to like a coral place and it's like don't you typically have to have like a low boat you just showed us that the boat has an aquarium and a submarine it's fine look at the gallery and corsa all you hear is this once you're like closer closer keep going good keep it good you're good oh so yeah may's walking around the ship and she entered like she walks in on jackie and ash talking and jackie's like hey ash i need your help i need you to like separate me and manafee he's like but they're they love each other no if they stay together man if he's not gonna leave and then we can't fix everything i need you to help me and may's like it's not gonna be a problem and jackie

59:22 just spits fire like listen may i need you to [ __ ] stop talking to this [ __ ] baby because the more it loves you it's not gonna go and you're gonna [ __ ] it all up and may's like you're right i'm gonna sit in a corner and cry and it's really sad because right before she leaves man if he comes the window like hey it's me and mei's like see a [ __ ] and like sits on like the doc crying and manafi's out like hello i love you happy and like i'm like oh it's a very cute moment man if he wants to talk to me and like this is like here they're now separated for like a good bit where like every time manafee shows up like looking for may she can't talk to you jackie said so she's and it's so she reminds me the scene right here because of the whole bond thing i don't know why but um every eevee trainer must feel like [ __ ]

1:00:09 because how much love and attention do they give their pokemon and that [ __ ] didn't evolve into a selfie so every gym every i don't know why this scene watching it i was like thinking to myself like wow even trainers suck because he lost some friendship so i was like that didn't happen until you know gen 6 came out so um see i'm a not happy with the whole thing but it is what it is cut to phantom who's following him in the submarine that's happening i guess sure um he's like i'm gonna follow him alone there was a scene before where they're like we uh we can't track them through the underground tunnels because there's too many and i was like okay cool you just established that you can't track them how the [ __ ] did you find them now because i feel like it was like it was that's this moment

1:00:54 like whoever the director was they were like who's the villain again and they're like the the pirate phantom [ __ ] we forgot about them adam in this part you can follow behind him closely bring him back he needs to break into temple we couldn't find them oh look captain we found them because again the only thing i can really equate that to was they have like they clearly they the phantom's crew has like sonar and things like that and the other ship doesn't so they weren't able to track them but then they do distance we were talking about grandpa's ship doesn't but it does but it does because so later they're following they're like [ __ ] everybody they go on a separate submarine and like oh cool they're coming back but there's another blip oh no and then their submarine disappears like what happened and that's when manaphy

1:01:40 brings up the temple and then like cloaks it's weird they couldn't know but they don't and spell them though um so yeah now man if he's chilling on a rock like i'm alone i guess i'll sing to water pokemon may watch us through the aquarium there was a legit moment where i had fear i was just like is she gonna break out into the dues [Music] remember when jirachi liked my song do you guys remember jarrod there's a there's a perfect moment with max later that was just like oh man this [ __ ] up um yeah elizabeth's like hey may i know you're sad right now take my bracelet you're a people of the water too and now she has a bracelet um pops and grandpa have another thing i'm

1:02:27 like hey we're almost there if man if he finds the temple tomorrow we get to see it awesome uh man if he hops out of the water may's like i can't be can't be here can't talk to it now she's like hang out with my pokemon uh [ __ ] swellow 90 feet in the [ __ ] air it's like oh yay sceptile's playing ninja don fans like a [ __ ] slide for it a pumps dancing around existing um sceptile's parkour was so cool and then it does nothing else yeah that just seems if sceptile's not fighting even like as grovile it's like during the this side of paradise he's like i'm gonna chill i exist i don't do anything but at this point this is when i knew the movie was getting too long at this point because i'm watching i'm like i watched it because i know i'm doing

1:03:13 this podcast this is a movie that i would have been okay with skipping like understand if it wasn't because we're doing the podcast like i would have stopped like i said that's out of it okay it's giving me two times but once we can shut up through uh watching this i'm just like this is unnecessarily long yeah and i was like it can do without

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