Brief Summary
This episode of the Doctor Who podcast features hosts Shabaz and Nadia J, along with guests Lauren and Ellie, discussing the "Rogue" episode. They explore the Bridgeton-esque setting, the character of Susan Twist, the chemistry between the Doctor and Rogue, and various Easter eggs. The hosts and guests share theories about Ruby Sunday's origins and the identity of the mysterious "One Who Waits," and analyze an exclusive sneak peek of the two-part finale, "The Legend of Ruby Sunday."
- The episode "Rogue" blends Doctor Who with Bridgeton, creating a unique and clever crossover.
- Theories abound regarding Susan Twist's identity and her role in Ruby Sunday's story.
- The chemistry between the Doctor and Rogue is a highlight, though some find the proposal rushed.
- Easter eggs and references to past Doctor Who episodes add depth and intrigue.
- The finale promises to answer key questions about Ruby Sunday and introduce familiar characters.
Introduction and Guest Welcome
Hosts Shabaz and Nadia J introduce the episode and welcome guests Lauren Leafield and Ellie Jolly. They give spoiler alert for those who haven't watched "Rogue". Lauren shares her preference for dystopian episodes, while Ellie expresses her lifelong love for Doctor Who, particularly the era of "Journey's End." Ellie is excited to theorize about the overarching story, and Lauren is intrigued by the Bridgeton influences in "Rogue." The hosts mention upcoming topics, including Indir Varma's character, Jonathan Groff as Rogue, and breadcrumbs from Russell T. Davies regarding the legend of Ruby Sunday.
Discussion of "Rogue" and its Bridgeton Vibes
The panel discusses the Bridgeton-like setting of "Rogue," praising its clever spin on the genre. The guests enjoyed seeing the Doctor in different outfits and the integration of psychic earrings for dancing. The episode was written by Bry Redmond and Kate Herron, the former showrunner for Loki. The conversation highlights the comedic moments and the flirty banter between the Doctor and Rogue.
The Mystery of Susan Twist
The hosts and guests discuss the recurring character Susan Twist, who has appeared in various episodes in different forms. Ellie theorizes that Susan Twist could be a figure from the Doctor's past, such as the Rani or a relative. The panel considers whether Susan Twist knows her true identity or if she is somehow linked to Ruby's background. Some suggest she might be a facilitator, helping Ruby discover her origins. The possibility of Susan Twist being Ruby's mother is dismissed.
The Charms and the Doctor-Rogue Chemistry
The panel discusses the Charms, praising Indir Varma's performance and the character's silly yet menacing nature. They then discuss the chemistry between the Doctor and Rogue, noting the initial tension and eventual connection. The guests compare the dynamic to previous Doctor Who relationships, such as the Tenth Doctor and Astrid from "Voyage of the Damned." The proposal scene is debated, with some finding it rushed and others questioning the ring's significance.
Jonathan Groff as Rogue and Kylie Minogue's Cameo
The panel praises Jonathan Groff's performance as Rogue, noting his Star-Lord-like energy and the intrigue he brought to the character. They also discuss Kylie Minogue's appearance, suggesting it was a nod to her previous role as Astrid in "Voyage of the Damned" and her status as a gay icon. The possibility of Rogue returning in future episodes is considered, with some speculating he might become a companion or have his own adventures.
Props and Easter Eggs in "Rogue"
The hosts discuss the props used in the episode, particularly the psychic earrings. They speculate on the Doctor's tendency to invent gadgets based on past experiences. Shabaz highlights Easter eggs, such as the reference to the Doctor accidentally inventing the banana daiquiri and the appearance of Richard E. Grant's face among the Doctor's past incarnations. The return of Susan Twist is also noted, with clips showcasing her various appearances throughout the season.
Theories and Predictions for the Finale
The guests share their theories about the upcoming finale, "The Legend of Ruby Sunday." Ellie suggests the "One Who Waits" could be a Celestial or a reference to classic Doctor Who. Lauren proposes that Ruby might turn out to be a villain. The panel discusses the significance of the tune played when Ruby is lifted in the air, linking it to "The Sarah Jane Adventures."
Doctor Who Dot: Easter Eggs and References
Shabaz presents "Doctor Who Dot," highlighting Easter eggs and references in the episode. He notes that the children are not the first shape-shifting aliens seen in Doctor Who, referencing the Zygons. He also points out the Doctor's accidental invention of Tac in 1902 and the banana daiquiri. The appearance of Richard E. Grant's face among the Doctor's incarnations is discussed, raising questions about his potential canonicity.
Fan Theories and Susan Twist Speculations
The hosts discuss fan theories, particularly those surrounding Susan Twist. They explore the idea that she might be playing different characters with no consistent agenda, possibly as part of a game orchestrated by the Toymaker. The panel also considers the possibility that Susan Twist is linked to Ruby, either as a guide or a manipulator. The theory that Susan Foreman, the Doctor's granddaughter, could be involved is also discussed.
Russell T. Davies' Breadcrumbs and Finale Sneak Peek
The hosts share a message from Russell T. Davies, who teases the upcoming finale and hints at answers to questions about Ruby Sunday's origins. Davies mentions the return of UNIT and key characters like Kate Lethbridge-Stewart and Mel. He directs viewers to rewatch "The Giggle" and pay attention to Mel's use of the "Triad" system. An exclusive sneak peek of "The Legend of Ruby Sunday" is shown, featuring UNIT and a futuristic setting. The panel analyzes the clip, speculating on the timeline and the reasons for the Doctor's visit to UNIT.
Final Thoughts and Farewell
The hosts thank the guests for their contributions and encourage viewers to share their theories using the hashtag #DoctorWho. They express their excitement and anticipation for the finale, "The Legend of Ruby Sunday." The episode concludes with a reminder to subscribe to the official Doctor Who YouTube channel.
