ROGUE | The Official Doctor Who Podcast | Doctor Who

0:00 hi guys and welcome back to the official Doctor Who podcast I'm shabaz and I am Nadia J and we are here for all your doctor who needs okay as per usual spoiler alerts if you have not seen Rogue go and do so right now BBC I player in the UK or Disney plus where available and then come right back here so we can discuss this episode very much looking forward to it but first we need some guests not just one lovely lady but let's give it up for radio one presenter Lauren leafield thanks guys and who talker and cosplayer Ellie [Applause]

0:45 Jolly thank you welcome both how are you thanks really good really excited to be here all right so I've got to ask you both actually I'll start with you Lauren what's like your favorite episode so far this series I would say I like I think the ones that are a bit more dystopian a bit more like the near future things that feel very real amazing what about you Ellie what about your relationship with Doctor Who lifelong fan y um I grew up watching it with my dad every week sorry does everyone just watch with their dad in the room there's a lot of like Boomer AG dads that grew up in that sort of era so they're now passing it down onto the children me um so I'm so happy with the new series so far I love it love that do you have a favorite episode Journey's End that's my era of the doctor that is my favorite

1:33 companions in the same room chef's kiss right I've got to ask you guys what are you looking forward to talking about this episode Ellie I'm a natural born theorizer I love I'm I'm connecting the dots already I'm really excited to predict what's coming next and what the overwatching story is going to lead to and all that kind of thing what about you Lauren I'm kind of interested the bridon esque feel of this episode obviously aside from Doctor Who what's the biggest thing that's been out recently Bridgeton it feels like this monumental crossover and yeah it was it was really really good all right so we're going to talk about all those things you guys mentioned plus we've got some things on the list to get through um we're also going to discuss indir varar who is playing the shapeshifting cha we've got massive Bridgeton Vibes huge also Jonathan gra playing Rogue the marriage proposal oh yeah of course that

2:21 was a big deal plus guys we have another collection of tantalizing breadcrumbs from Russell T Davis but this is the penultimate episode I can't even breathe the legend of Ruby Sunday we have a clip to show you very very shortly guys it's so exciting I'm so hyped you guys all right you okay you're all huffing and puffing frothing at the mouth but first things first let's talk about Rogue and let's talk about the Bridgeton Vibe setting let's remind ourselves of that oh my bridg this is my actual Dream It's brilliant isn't it and the dances oh the dances I can't dance not like this how do I know these moves psychic earrings choreography beamed into your system tap twice to choose your moves it's like instant

3:06 strictly what did you think what did you make of this episode I loved it I loved it like as a fan of Bridgeton anyway I loved it but also I just thought it was like a really like clever sort of spin on it I think it touches on something we all are aware of and we all know so it feels like it's kind of Taken Bridget V in a in a Sci-Fi Direction basically which is two things that would just never you would never think to cross would you it was genius what if they already are what if the Bridget and you're watching the finale they're all aliens that would that would spin people out wouldn't it I just love seeing the doctor in different outfits and the region he were stunning and how the earrings brought into it with the dancing love it the episode was actually written by a comedian she goes by the name of Bry Redmond and also written by Kate Heron now she is the former

3:53 showrunner for Loki don't know if anyone watched it obsessed loved it so we had those like sci-fi moments really great comedic moments as really enjoyed the little dance between the Rogue and the doctor that that was so like the way it was written they were just kind of bouncing off each other these little like kind of one liners and there was kind of that tension between them where you like do they like each other is he going to do away with the doctor but then there was like kind of flirty kind of like banter between them and it was just funny it was just good to watch so quick so also there's Susan twist but you know what actually I'm going to let you lead on this because this is your egg I was going to say baby listen I love twist all I keep hearing is Susan twist Susan twist that's Susan twist she obviously appeared in this episode again

4:38 let's just remind ourselves of that oh uh your grace who is that the Duke's Lake mother her eyes still follow me about the room constant judgment right listen it's blowing my mind because she's obviously as we now know we talk about it every week she's appeared in various different episodes in various different forms so what I really want to know is we've talked about it a lot what your guys Theory Ellie what's your theory what what's Susan twist I I have a few I've got a few ideas I'm thinking about what other the powerful women that we've seen in Doctor Who and who that it could be like loose threads from the past I think thinking people like the Rani MH um which was one of the doctor's old enemies and friends and uh it could be something to do with the doctor's granddaughter could end up being his

5:23 great granddaughter at this point or something like that cuz I know we've had a lot of themes about family in this series and finding her birth and um adoption and all that so it could be something to do with the doctor's family I know at some point Ruby's going back in the past and lifting that hood up right like she's going to grab that hood and take it off and be like who are you mother we're so deep into the theories about Ruby's background and and the fact that the doctor's already said I can't take you back to that place and show you what happened at the church so we already know we already have this big bit that's being kept from us so my only thought is is there a link back to that moment is there something there I think Susan twist is a almost playing a companion in this I think she knows who Ruby's mom is I don't think she is Ruby's mom not I

6:09 think no no no I think she is there to almost help Ruby to decipher who her mom is because her interactions with Ruby are very obvious like it's always Ruby that has to see her doesn't mean the doctor doesn't as well but it's almost like a hey it's me the thing is the fact that she's playing so many different characters my theory and has always been and I thought we're going to touch on this was I feel like the character themselves doesn't know that they are a different they're the same person it's appearing to Ruby which is why it leans into this idea that when that hood comes off her mom looks like that because she would Ruby would have had a glimpse of her mom obviously she was a baby but she still would have seen it with her eyes I feel like she keeps seeing this face that's why the rest of the characters are all like yeah that's my mom no that's that that's the the the Duke's

6:56 Mom that's uh the video log but everybody else is acting like what you want about as well as you say like you don't know you don't think she knows who she is um in the same way that we saw the master and both both the master and the doctor have done this um where they've erased their entire personality and put it in that pocket watch so if it's somebody like the Rani for example they could have used that same technology and completely forgotten who they were that whole 73 hours episode as well was her being followed by this presence and her kind of trying to work out who it was and what relevance it had so it feels like there's some kind of echo to that part me think think maybe that maybe that wasn't a Closed episode and maybe there's an expansion of that episode that we don't know about yet n from day one she watch episode we are

7:41 right here there is something but I genuinely think that Susan twist is kind of an accessory I don't think she's as obvious as being Ruby's Mom it's it's got to be like a hey I'm here because you need me to be here like I don't want to say Guardian Angel cuz that's not what I'm trying to say but she fa yes she's a facilitator and I think that somehow well we're going to find out anyway um Ruby's going to work out why Susan keeps appearing and why she keeps seeing her so listen let's talk about the Big Buddy of this episode The chers let's just remind ourselves of them is a joer family I want to be the

8:29 doctor who wants to fight for the other one run I'm normally the one that says that what did you think of the CH then what's your I Lov them I it really reminded me I'm going to go back to the sine again for you here it reminded me of them because they were just really silly and goofy and they'd say like a quick quippy line before stealing someone else's body which is what we literally murdering someone they're like like just say some sassy and then when she's working as a maid and she goes to The Duchess in that dress and the duess is like sassy I love it I really um enjoyed just the beginning deama she was doing those kind of like head twitches and I was like oh what's this about like is this like some kind of weird alien thing that's going on and then when like they In that clip you see them sort of

9:15 come to fruition you're like oh it's that like bird element she just played it so well she is brilliant she is a brilliant actress as well she played Susie Castello in the Torchwood spin-offs um and she's just brilliant as the leader and those funny lines that we were talking about earlier as well they were just written into those moments so nicely that theyve become this kind of endearing you know and you want to see what they're going to do next right let's talk about the Chemistry Between the doctor and Rogue let's remind ourselves of that I didn't know the duchess would play a COR Chester well I'm hilarious and you're kind of funny peculiar standing here good Vantage Point keeping an eye out on the

10:01 exits like you're expecting trouble are you honey I'm here for fun H very sexy the tension there what did you make of their relationship Lauren at first I was like you know it's that feeling where it's just like do I like this person or do I hate this person are you arrogant or are you confident it was that kind of thing you know you just can't work someone out and then gradually just sort of saw the kind of barriers kind of come down and that bit where he showed him inside the ttis and and he was was really impressed with it was like wow that's amazing it's very Bridgeton yes absolutely and that's what you need if we're going to have a Bridgeton episode we had to have some kind of like Love Story attached to it and they usually do hate each other and then all of a sudden it's like the chemistry is there from nowhere I love it when the doctor gets a bit flirty I

10:47 mean if we think about like the 10th doctor he was going around snugging everybody so and like it reminds me a lot of astd from Voyage of the Damned yes um where she I mean Kylie MOG was in this episode too which I loved that scene the Rapport between Rog and the doctor there with the song little bit of cheeky flirting um but where they they fall in love for this great adventure and then obviously they have to sacri sacrifice themselves at the end of it I will be honest he got very distracted yeah Ruby was in a pickle yeah she could have been dead if she didn't save herself right usually he's you know spending so much of his time looking out for her in in his in his bab's point and that that smooch distracted him enough to steal the flipping remote thing exactly my point while you're

11:33 distracted I'm got the time for it the world is at stake humanity is at stake I think the doctor's romantic moments work best when it's like a a long building thing like when we had Rose Tyler and then River Song it needs a bit of time the proposal was like whoa whoa whoa whoa if that happened on a night out you'd probably you would probably say no wouldn't you was it real was it a bit of drama for the cosplaying shoulder do you know what I mean yeah I mean I think that the doctor set it up and then it was very very quickly realized oh dear this is getting a bit real yeah yeah I don't know though I think maybe cuz we were we were discussing this and I think he put the ring on at the end now there is conflicting theories did he put the ring on to say we're engaged cuz if he did take it off I'm sorry I'm not having

12:20 it right or did he put it on just to sad of say like the guy's gone like I'm this is my promise that I will find you I will save you rather than like oh I me back just a reminder why is there a ring yeah where do this ring come I know I know this no I don't know this I'm saying like I know it SP to Russell about it basically what it is I think the the ring is you know Rogue talked about having a companion and the or someone like a he had someone had someone maybe the ring was oh and then they died or they got lost in some sort of Dimension don't be giving out that ring no I think really but did he have it in his pocket or was he just wearing a ring cuz the doctor was already already wearing a

13:05 couple rings he could have just it's day or at least get past three dates you know and then and then get the ring out so we had the amazing Jonathan gr starring here as well alongside the doctor brilliant performance and also nice to have the accent oh yeah absolutely in love with Jonathan you said to me didn't you absolutely in love with him so I'm a theater kid so I I knew him from like I remember watching the 2007 Tony Awards perform of Spring Awakening with him in it and deciding that I was utterly in love with this man I still love him he's my favor did he um what did you think of him playing Rog cuz quite a different quite different character isn't it it's more like it's giving a Star-Lord energy very Marvel very uh very Lone Ranger really kind of I felt very complicated I don't know did I just get

13:51 that I just love complicated I think there's more layers to him than we knew of cuz obviously they've left that thread open to explore further maybe um but yeah I think he absolutely killed that Ro SL it he had have a little element of intrigue as well to kind of get the doctor's attention and kind of like yeah kind of wrap him into that world so quickly like we said as well and it was it was complicated and he did it really really well didn't he so we've already mentioned but Kylie was playing and for those that don't know obviously Kylie has been in Voyage of the dam she played Astrid I I think she's she's well wedged in the universe now I think Kylie as a pop star and then astd as a separate as a doppelganger perhaps maybe it's just a nice kudos to Kylie and for previous episodes for like real hoans

14:36 because she's quoted by the doctor in the idiots Lantern is this just another way to say look Flex you know we've had Kylie in the show yeah I think I I agree with you I don't think Kylie is I think Astrid was just someone who slightly looked like her I don't think there's a I don't think you know also if we're going to have a gay kiss we want a gay icon in a mon episode like we need a proper Queen so and I don't think it could have been any other song I just don't think it would have Works know oh maybe that's throwing forward as well I can't get you out my head maybe he will go forth because he will not be able to get out his head because find him because obviously now we know that the Rogue has stepped and gone into a different dimension and to find him do you think the doctor's going to make good on that or he's just going to forget about it I think he will return to it

15:23 eventually when I don't know eventually like in a couple of years time maybe another comp a doctor it could be a different face by then you never know so this could be the beginning of a love story spanning multiple doctors do you think Rog might come back as a companion in like future episodes do you think like no he's got his own ship I mean it's very much Battle of the boys you know what I mean I don't think yeah would he be willing to sidekick things I don't know no because I because if you think about it when he was like on the Tardis he was like yeah cuz it was clean he said I'm in love yeah I'm in love he say that I think the doctor likes to be challenged though cuz if you think about all the other people that he sort of ended up companions with and the people that he holds nearest and dearest to him like think Donna Noble she challenges him all the time and he likes that about her he likes someone that's got the

16:09 cheek to stand up to him sometimes and have a bit of banter so The Audacity Of The he got Ruby for that cuz it takes a certain person to do that to the doctor you know what I mean he's used to being in charge of the situation also how cool was it when we got to see all the doctor's faces L that including Richard E Grant which we'll come back to later but first I think we want to talk about the props oh I didn't even notice it was sort of pointing towards me and I wanted to move it to point towards yeah so yeah I thought it might go off awesome yeah I'm glad you pointed it that way thank you for thinking of me shabaz um fantastic props actually used in this episode including those fantastic earrings that we were just talking about that Ruby had let's remind oursel of

16:55 those that's what she did to me how could you mistake her for me she has the scent of a Childer you idiot it's a false scent from that cheap psychic jewelry cheap psychic jewelry which obviously worked did a job didn't it J did job might be cheap but it done a job got Tardis earrings on I don't know if those are those psychic have Tardis earrings on today I know I love have magical properties they must do you know what I want to know we could have done with the psychic earrings a couple of times in a couple of times in Dr in the hoiv we could have done with some of them she can see yeah I think the the gadgets this series have been really cool like but I think the doctor invents these things and tinks about with them after

17:41 something happens like there's a theory with the anti- mavity gloves yes um where you know cuz Rose couldn't hold on yeah he invented them after that so that people could hold on so he's inventing stuff so he can avoid situations that he's been in before but like these earrings are really cool cosplays are going to love finding them finding the props and recreating them now before we get into those Easter eggs we have an exclusive sneak peek of the two-part finale guys it is such a big one the legend of Ruby Sunday that is on its way plus we're talking to Russell T Davis he's giving us some breadcrumbs all of that to come super exciting stuff right do you know what I'm getting really really excited because I'm excited and sad because it's coming to the end right but my biggest thing is is I love

18:29 answers I want to know Susan twist right his Legions are coming the one who Waits I want answers today now what do you think how how you feeling about the finale I'm so excited you got L of theories I do I I said at the top of the episode that I'm a natural bond theorizer so I've been thinking I've been doing a lot of thinking um I think as I said before I think that we could have something to do with the Doctor's Family something to do with that um I have no idea what the hell Rubik Sunday could be um she's a mystery to me but I think the one who Waits could be another Celestial yeah um maybe like a reference from classic Who maybe from like the John Pat era because I know Shy's been mentioning

19:16 him quite a lot yes um I was watching remembrance of the dials which is a Sylvester mcco story the other day and I think the hand of Omega could be something okay important here there is a a theory that I've seen as well and um this tune that is playing when um Ruby is lifted in the air um is the same tune well similar notes to um trickster from San adventures and I do think that there is going to be a big link is there a world where the companion canot be a companion and can actually be in opposition to I hope so thank you Lauren is I have done it all I've said from episode one is Ruby is going to be a bad

20:02 guy I don't want like she's like you said she's got all these things that she's been able to do but like you said she's never really self-questioning she just does them and then we move on and we go oh she helps him sort of like basic counterbalance himself on a landmine and she's brave enough to do it and she goes forth and she just does it and she just it's just a bit like oh what am I like I've just done that but is it or is she helping as a part of a greater plot we could do this all afternoon like I absolutely love going back and forth with everybody about theories and you guys can get involved as well make sure you use the # Doctor Who so we can find your theories and maybe they'll get said on the podcast yes all right are we ready shabaz has got his moment this is Dr dot so this is the part of the episode

20:48 where shabaz gets all those Easter eggs and does his doct to Dot and we love it here because it's his his real time to flex so we're ready all right we've done quite a few theories anyway so shabaz take it away what have you got for us so obviously the children AR the first shape-shifting aliens we've seen we obviously saw the zygons in the terror of zygon in my dad's favorite era the Tom Baker era that's impossible we have the power to turn ourselves into replicas of your unpleasant form whenever it is necessary so the doctor mentioned inventing accidentally inventing Tac In 1902 now that's not the first time the doctors invented something uh the 11th doctor invented the quadricycle and the 10th

21:35 doctor invented the banana daquiri in 2006 yes it was and that was the girl in the fireplace God they know how to party oh look at what the Cat Dragged In the oncoming storm you sound just like your mother what have you been doing where have you been well among other things I think I just invented the banana Dair a couple of centuries early do you know they'd never even seen a banana before always take a banana to a party Road right so when Rogue was scanning the doctors I love that bit when the doctor's faces all popped up it was so nice to see but we saw all the core doctors as well as the War Doctor and The Fugitive doctor but we also saw Richard E Grant's face pop up now the thing is he obviously voiced the doctor in the 2003 animated series The Scream

22:20 of the shulka but he just voiced it though so are we saying that he's just The Voice or is he something more cuz he played the great intelligence as well did then also we've got the new Timeless child sort of plotline so there's so many faces of the doctor that we could have never seen before so rich E Grant could definitely be a cannon doctor yeah a nice Kudos it was i% I wish they'd thrown a few more in there I wish they just randomly got someone off the street and just chucked them in you know I mean my face yeah cuz there's a couple in like the classic Who series that are like two like Shadow doctors that we've never seen before too so I think by working with the Timeless child plotline it's interesting to see who we've never seen before and maybe get a chance to meet those doctors so when Rogue grabs

23:06 the doctor's hand and he's like run and the doctor's like hey that's my line that obviously is a link back cuz n loves this love this so this is the knife doctor when he grabs Rose and they escape the autons and this is I mean Rose is my favorite companion favor compion love her love literally so that's one of those episodes of kudos to that the things that we keep seeing in older episodes that are coming back in the newer ones and also just to slightly touch on cuz we've obviously had Susan twist come back let's just remind ourselves of where we've seen Susan twist throughout this season everywhere I land a woman appears in every dream I'm there she doesn't know why but she remembered them doctor there's something wrong whatever it is here it

23:51 comes oh my gosh what cranking up there is it something cranking up she she's almost innocent do you see what I mean I feel like she's aitor she doesn't know well thanks to the Easter eggs is literally my favorite part um we are going into where in the universe [Music] next so last week all the theories from the fans was all about ruby and her backstory this week we let's be honest right it's all about Susan twist right and it seems like Susan twist is going to have a massive impact right and there was a Theory online that said she seems to be playing different characters every time in that they're unrelated she also hasn't got a consistent agenda every time she appears so she's either claraa 2.0 or she's someone pretending to be different people most likely it's one of the toy makers lot playing an elaborate

24:37 and possibly meta fictional game what do we think from that clip it feels like you thinking she's not sure what's going on and she talks about her dreams so I don't know if you remember the episode Amy's Choice oh where her dreams were like reality and whatever she dreamed like you know what I mean so maybe it's something to do with that so do you remember in Christopher eon's era when they go back to satellite 5 and there's the woman that's obviously plugged into all those TV shows what if that is Susan like Susan twist is just being plugged into and broadcast across all these but why could well be it's Ru fault like a projection Ruby I still think that she is there because Ruby has asked her somehow there's an assistance like she's almost like a I don't want to say

25:24 Guardian Angel but like she's there helping Ruby to maybe stay on the right course rather than on the uh the Dark Horse if the other half of her is the time yeah in the trailer though she does say she's got a bit of sass with it cuz she's like Doctor Who whereas In that clip she's sort of like crying and also did you see another incarnation of Susan Twist's character it flashed up but it was sort of like a robotic alien cuz she's been human like face has been human but in that point she it flashes and she's got this sort of alien like yeah she's I need to watch it frame by frame give do it two times slower good one though that's a great great yeah Theory I've got another one so so there is a running theme of abandoned children in this

26:12 season so I think this is a user online that it makes sense that Susan Foreman would make an appearance this season as she was basically abandoned by the doctor and um is his grandchild um also the one who Waits could definitely be Susan foran as she has been waiting for the doctor to come back this whole time maybe Susan foran is villain of the series and his angry at being abandoned sort of like an inverse of Ruby and the Doctor Who though abandoned were able to move on and find family in there regardless do you know what I would love if Susan was the one that was whispering to everyone so that Ruby could get you know in in um 73 yards imagine it was Susan the whole time that was doing some stuff yeah so that she can be abandoned because she's like you're with my granddad and I actually won my Grandad

26:58 back the woman the 73y old woman was Susan for I'm just saying it would be nice if his Grand yeah if that was his granddaughter well I've I touched on that earlier didn't I where I said I think we're going to get references to the doctor's own family trying to find his birth family I don't think she I don't think she'd be a villain but I think it could well be like a link to as you say yeah didn't when when the doctor went back on Church in Ruby Road and he had the H the the Ruby's mom when he went back after Ruby had been taken and all that the mom pointed the hooded fig I wouldn't say there's a mom but the hooded figure pointed at the doctor and the doctor almost was taken a by it and had tears rolling down his face so is that not could that not be that link of grand pointing to him going you abandoner you absolute abandon we could

27:45 be saying here that Ruby could well be somehow oh this his great granddaughter Grand whoever yeah because yeah I think Su formed because obviously the last thing he said to her was I will be I will come back yeah and also he Devil's cord it I'm telling you right Russell T Davis does not just randomly give us titbits right breadcrumbs is given us a whole biscuit at this point right I'm telling you he looked he pointed over and he turned around and said that that's where I I lived that's where I Curr live with my granddaughter right and it was such a sweet moment because that first ever episode where you get to see the is the garage and they're living in there and I it would be so nice I feel like this whole episode every time abandonment has come up as as a as a

28:31 talking point it's been quite resolved you know like it was always about reassuring the babies that they're not like left you know like it's always been trying to reassure Ruby and it would be great if we could see that darker side of well sometimes there is resentment some people when you're left you are resentful and how do we work through that as as an emotion absolutely Lauren you are right Lauren sometimes we plant seeds and we sew things that we don't realize are going to turn into beautiful flowers and some horrible trees that have mangled and I just would like it to be something that is almost retribution just a little bit you told your granddaughter you were going to come back and you didn't I think the doctor I think the doctor does need I think the doctor does get sometimes he does get his com puns in

29:17 the sense that like sometimes things come back and they like really bite him in the backside but this is his ultimate biggest thing so I think I love that theory I genuinely love that theory that beginning element that we literally serve with with the butterfly that what you do has an effect and that you can't run from that so we love your theories remember to Hash do to who and we'll actually get to see them and we get to read them out as shabaz has said we've had the tantalizing breadcrumbs to the point where it say big old biscuit we are ready I have been waiting for this moment for all episode Russell T Davis is about to give us a sneak breadcrumb about next week's episode are we ready I am let's go so write hello nardia shabaz this week we're heading towards the end

30:03 of the series and it is the legend of Ruby Sunday as you can guess from that things are coming to aead where does she come from why does it keep snowing when she was left in the snow that day what secrets were happening on Ruby Road who was there that's the question this is a Monumental climax to the series unit's back Gemma Redgrave is back in as Kate leth Stewart uh we've got Lenny Rush as the new Scientific Advisor youit Bonnie Langford is Back Bonnie Langford here as M at the doctor's side uh Alexander devant as Colonel Ibrahim col Christopher Ibrahim so it's it's you can feel the cast Gathering there's a great big uh conglomeration of people heading towards a great big series Climax and it's the first part of a two-parter that's how big things are getting and if you want to know what's at stake just go

30:50 onto your I player go and have a little look at the giggle well it's a very mysterious little conversation where where Donna asked Mel what what what system they were using and was it static or dynamic and Mel said that it's Triad a little line where she just says she's using the Triad system watch that have consequences for everyone I sorry I'm character I'm like Russ does Russell does this every week and this man has written the some of the best episodes are you genuinely telling me that he's gone given us a tease and gone he's sending us down one place we're sat there at watch watching the episode frame by frame looking at Triad Triad what TR mean Triad Triad and right now something else comes and smacks in the face cuz it's something else

31:36 distracting us 100% distraction I'm not believing it sry that the psych my my power with the psychic earrings would be to look in Russell te's brain oh my God can you imagine I would I want to know the future of all the Doctor Who yeah what he's got planned up there the whole series too now all that right Russell's given as a tease but we want to actually see it for ourselves we've got an exclusive sneak peek of The Legend of Ruby sunde right look out for a Triad this I'm oh this is different where are they I love seeing the Tardis fly current no current this is UK that's unit now a it unit's got big building go protocols everyone positions Donna's daughter yeah yeah Rose Vector

32:22 one what the Iron Man's going on here and why are they going in there he knows that's make an [Music] entrance that's not enough are you having laugh that's a joke that's the teaser for the whole of the next two episodes are you having a laugh all we thought the doctor went to unit oh y Bravo right well we knew that was going to happen even I knew that was going to happen mus Davis told us that you know I'm fing oh by the way guess what happens sneak peek the doctor goes to unit you're not your I am fully done I'm going to go hang on hang on let's take some bits from it right so you I was saying to shabaz when the clip was on is that now it looks a little bit more futuristic than 2024 no it it's it's it

33:09 looks exactly the same as it did in I know it's the future the robots had a refresh as well Kate's hair looks different it's bleach blonde I am telling you that was blond Bach the correct what I said bleach she been to the it's been a week she's had a hair hair appointment literally was refreshed the was refreshed is by how how much how far are you saying I say two or 3 years I'm not saying n months yeah a couple of months I'm going to say a couple of months I agree with you that now saying that because looking at links has obviously been refreshed but I don't think no I don't think it's too far in the future the only my only thing is why are we rushing to unit like Something's Happened rush to unit that's why I think it's been a couple of years so maybe Something's Happened that they need to come and fix now because now they realize that are we then going to

33:55 see that a couple of years because if it is a couple of years I'm not having it I don't don't like that all right guys my brain is broken and we could be arguing all day long about this but it's so good to get everyone's like insights gets a bit spicy does it and you can find more behind the scenes content about Doctor Who on the Doctor Who socials and that's it this is wrapped up thank you so much for coming thank you for having us so fun been hon H crew and everyone let's give a massive Round of Applause to Ellie and Lauren thank you was really fun thank you you guys were great thank you so much for joining us and that is it now remember to join Jo us as soon as you finish watching the next episode The Legend of Ruby Sunday we'll still be here we might not be friends but we'll still be here because wow like but the good thing is we're going to finally know I need the answ

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