Brief Summary
The discussion revolves around the increasing number of young men who report having no female sexual partners and explores the reasons behind this trend. It covers the influence of social media, dating apps, and cultural shifts on sexual dynamics, as well as the impact of figures like Andrew Tate. The conversation also touches on the importance of sex for men, the changing roles of men and women in relationships, and the need for men to take responsibility for their own lives.
- Increase in young male virginity is attributed to a mix of factors including fear of mockery, #MeToo movement, and the influence of social media and dating apps.
- Figures like Andrew Tate are seen as a symptom of men feeling disenfranchised and not celebrated for traditional masculinity.
- Sex is portrayed as a fundamental need for men, closely tied to feeling worthy and loved.
- The traditional dynamic where women push men to improve themselves is seen as broken, contributing to the problem.
- Men need to take personal responsibility for their lives, and women need to understand their role in the dynamic between men and women.
The Rise of Male Virginity
The conversation begins by addressing the alarming statistic that a growing number of young men under 30 report having no female sexual partners since turning 18. This trend has seen exponential growth, particularly after the housing market crash. Several factors contribute to this issue, including the fear of being mocked or accused in the context of the #MeToo movement, and the impact of social media and dating apps, which promote hypergamy. These platforms allow a small percentage of men to monopolize sexual access to women, while other men turn to numbing activities like pornography and video games.
The Impact of Social Media and OnlyFans
The discussion shifts to the impact of platforms like OnlyFans, which, despite the availability of free pornography, still manage to attract users. The hosts discuss the potential for men to become desensitized or find substitutes for real relationships through these platforms. The conversation touches on the Democratic Socialists of America's view of marriage as merely a long-term, priced contract, which could deter men from pursuing relationships due to fear of being perceived as creepy or exploitative.
The Importance of Connection and the Role of Children
The speakers address concerns about declining birth rates and societal attitudes that seem to welcome this decline. They share personal anecdotes about interacting with children and the importance of human connection. One of the speakers emphasizes the significance of sharing life with someone who prioritizes you, highlighting the human need for connection. They also mention how intelligence agencies like the CIA recognize the power of building genuine friendships as a means of influence.
The Andrew Tate Phenomenon
The conversation addresses the influence of figures like Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit on the trend of male virginity. Andrew Tate is described as a symptom of a larger problem: men feeling mocked, inadequate, and unable to climb the social ladder. Tate's appeal lies in his message of empowerment and validation for men who feel disenfranchised. The speaker draws a parallel to Donald Trump, who also rose to prominence by addressing the frustrations of a specific demographic. The importance of physical strength and self-improvement for men is emphasized as a way to combat feelings of inadequacy.
The Lack of Positive Masculine Figures
The discussion explores the absence of positive, culturally promoted masculine figures who can counteract the influence of figures like Andrew Tate. While some suggest Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson, they note that Rogan has faced criticism from the left, and Peterson has been subject to attempts at cancellation. The lack of a unifying, positive masculine vision is seen as a contributing factor to the problem.
The Significance of Sex for Men
The conversation shifts to the fundamental importance of sex for men, particularly within a relationship. It is asserted that while women need to feel loved to have sex, men need to have sex to feel loved, creating a feedback loop. Sex is described as a unique form of expression and connection, and the act of a woman being sexually receptive is portrayed as an act of generosity and validation. The speaker expresses dismay at the mockery of this act, such as throwing dildos on the court of the WNBA.
The Broken Dynamic Between Men and Women
The discussion explores the idea that women are meant to help men become men, acting as "sexual gatekeepers" who drive men to improve themselves. By pathologizing men's desire to get laid, society has broken this dynamic. The speaker shares his personal experience with a traditional wife who pushed him to be a better version of himself. The current environment, where men turn to OnlyFans and lack genuine connection, does not foster personal growth.
Responsibility and Conclusion
The conversation concludes by emphasizing that men must take responsibility for their own lives. Women need to understand their role in the dynamic between men and women, and the breakdown of this dynamic contributes to the lack of "good men."
