VTuber BREAKS SILENCE About SHOCKING VShojo Treatment!

Brief Summary

The video summarizes information shared by VTuber Yusan (Unnamed) on a Twitter space regarding their experience with VShojo. Yusan discussed being invited to join VShojo but never signing, their views on the VTubing industry, and VShojo's plans for a boy group. They also touched on the importance of agencies for talent support and the pressures of being an indie VTuber.

  • Yusan was invited to join VShojo but never signed an NDA.
  • Yusan shared their negative experiences in the VTubing industry.
  • VShojo was planning to debut a boy group.
  • Agencies can provide valuable support for VTubers.

Intro

The video introduces information from VTuber Yusan (also known as Unnamed) regarding VShojo, shared on a Twitter space. Yusan, a singer and content creator, discussed their interactions with VShojo and their perspective on the VTubing industry. The information was compiled by "Ask Virtual YouTubers," revealing details about VShojo's practices and Yusan's experience.

Yusan's Initial Sentiments

Yusan was invited to join VShojo but never signed a contract or NDA. They expressed anger and disappointment with the VTubing industry, which they felt had become overly focused on money, lies, betrayal, and drama. Yusan noted a shift in the community's attitude, from encouraging talents to join agencies to advocating for independence, acknowledging the challenges of being an indie VTuber. They urged people to stop blaming entire agencies for issues, pointing out that problems often stem from higher-ups who view talent as mere wallets.

Yusan's Mental Health and VShojo's Approach

In May 2023, after Yusan's debut, VShojo reached out to them when they were in a bad headspace following negative reactions to a summer song and a scrapped music video project from their time in Niji Sanji. Yusan had considered self-harm due to the negativity but was supported by their lawyer and guitarist. VShojo's offer came after Yusan's Live2D reveal. Yusan was scared of betraying people and failing to generate profit for the company. They found VShojo's offer too good to be true, questioning the revenue share's feasibility.

Conditions and Boy Wave

Yusan offered VShojo conditions, including the flexibility to stream less and connections to major music labels, focusing more on music than VTubing. VShojo mentioned they were trying to debut a boy wave. Yusan was confused about VShojo debuting them, a non-binary VTuber, alongside a male model. The community advised against joining an agency, leading Yusan to remain independent.

Indie vs. Agency and VShojo's Plans

Yusan believes agencies should support talent and remains positive about the concept of agencies in general, as creatives need assistance. They emphasized that going indie is hard work and cautioned against pressuring others to choose that path. Yusan believes no VTuber deserves the negative experiences some have had with VShojo, but this doesn't mean agencies are inherently bad. Mitchi and Shoto contacted Yusan in the Twitter space. VShojo had plans to create a boy group, potentially including individuals who were not strictly male, and had approached Quinn, Sou, and Shoto about joining.

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0:00 Okay, so it seems like more information about V Showjo is still coming out and this time it's from someone called Yusan or Unnamed. Now obviously this is a VTuber and also they do some uh singing and some covers and stuff which is great and obviously they are much uh liked in the community and essentially they actually went on a Twitter space to talk about some things uh you know to do with V Showjo and someone has kindly uh you know put this all together to kind of give us an idea of what Eucan has actually had to do with V Showjo and it's pretty crazy. So let's get into it here. Obviously, this is on ask virtual YouTubers and they say USN revealed a lot of things on their Twitter space about Vojo's role in this uh Jesus Christ. So, this goes from the intro and obviously they say Yusan was invited to join V Showjo but never signed nor

0:45 signed an NDA. They say very angry at gun wondering uh when did this industry turn into money, lies, betrayal, and drama. Upset that the community as a whole has flipped from join an agency to go be an indie. You can do it all yourself as being indie is hard with plenty of work it is. uh say uh once people to stop calling out their agencies. Obviously these are little just like bullet points uh that is coming up in this uh Twitter space. They say once people to stop calling out agencies it's not the majority of the staff in the agencies it's the higherups who just see it as a wallet which definitely is 100% true. I think there's a lot been a lot of people in this situation especially whenever uh the first IMAS video came out a lot of people were blaming the showjo staff as a whole. I don't think every single V Showjo staff is you know horrible whatever. I think it's a small set of them uh who obviously has kind of ruined

1:30 the company for everyone uh including obviously Gun and uh people in the higher up kind of space. I think there's also people lower down as well. I don't think always saying that it's just the higher ups is the uh you know safest thing to say. I'd say that you know there's also people lower down who have also contributed to this as well. Whether it's by being lazy in terms of uh finances and things like that, they also have contributed too. Uh, but I don't think it's all of the lower downs or all of the higher I might not even be all the higher ups to be honest. Uh, and they say Vtubing isn't uh, sorry, Vtubing it wasn't supposed to be about money, guys. They say Vishojo reached out and around May 2023 just after the first unnamed debut. Uh obviously they go on to say after graduation uh after grad uh they were in a very bad headsp

2:16 space. Uh there were uh sorry there was a music video for a summer song which they were trying to make uh in Niji using super chat money. Uh they commissioned then current mama for it but ended up not being released by niji with no reason stated possibly due to leaving. Uh they ended up getting the video remade uh to be the husan character. Half of the comments on the summer song uh were negative and upset at them returning and snapped something in us. Uh after the uh negative response to summer song, they basically hid deleting archives streams. Uh they couldn't handle the way to this negativity. They planned Oh, damn. They planned um you know, obviously doing stuff to themselves. I can't really say on on this video, but you guys can see uh they say nearly attempted. They say

3:02 the their guitarist called them and saved their life. Uh then Shoto contacted them. Uh their lawyer was very very kind and supportive through all of this and encouraged them to find a new path. They were told don't think about the money. Uh just thing uh just saying this is how top music happened. Uh you know using anger as a drive anger better than depression uh was drinking heavily. Uh also a reason for the live 2D reveal. Okay. And then obviously we get into Vojo and how they approached. Obviously they're in a very bad space. Uh obviously I think they were part of Nigeri uh before uh so again they're in a very bad space uh you know prior to that and obviously then Vojo approached them they said after the live 2D reveal vojo approached they were terrified of betraying people by joining a new

3:48 company terrified of not being able to make money for the company and disappoint them. uh just generally very scared of disappointing people which I think yeah especially being involved in a lot of stuff before it can feel feel very scary and stuff and they say vojo sounded really good but they said it sounded too good to be true uh sorry but they said it sounded too good to be true like it couldn't possibly be making profit the revenue share just didn't sound real the headsp space was not in the right place burning through money for uh the songs not a streamer uh told Vojo I'm sorry I don't think I can guarantee profit revenue for the company Busan offered conditions uh VSSJ have to guarantee uh that it's okay for them to not stream as much and have to uh connect me to major labels for music basically mainly as a musician and not a

4:34 VTuber which I think yeah that's a fair enough kind of point if that's the way that you know obviously they want to go obviously as I said they're very big into their music and you know that's a lot of the stuff that they work on and it looks like they're trying to make the switch over to kind of being more so of a musician type of content creator you know obviously still streaming a little bit on the side, but maybe not as much as some of the other talent, which honestly, you know, with their connections, which V Showjo were boasting about, saying that, "Oh, hey, we've got all these connections and things that can get you uh, you know, into the company and we can get you to here and there and that, you know, they should be able to do it." And then Vojo said that they were trying to debut a boy wave. You sound confused about V Showjo debuting them as a non-binary VTuber with a male male model. Yikes. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I mean obviously, you know, saying that

5:19 obviously they were told that straight to them. They're saying they're trying to debut a boy wave. Obviously, we know one of them was Kuro, who obviously, you know, is the only well was the only male in V Show, but saying that, you know, they're going to debut more males to a non-binary person is pretty crazy. Uh they say back then asked community about joining an agency in a Twitter space, but didn't say which. The community was strongly against it. The deal did not happen. Uh so yeah, obviously the deal didn't happen and uh you know the community didn't want him to join. Uh so again, you know, I think that's fair enough. Uh they say cut out with indie is better. They say they cons they consider indie is easier is b uh saying believing agencies should be for the talent helping them. Uh mad gun

6:06 again uh does not believe that agencies are dead as a concept. Uh but Yan is pretty positive about the concept of agencies in general. uh creatives need help and agencies provide that which is 100% true you know regardless of what you know V showjo have done uh you know and what has happened agents still agencies can still provide a real benefit for VTubers and I don't think it's the end of it too there's so many new ones that are going to be popping up in the future that it's just the time when some of the big ones have fallen and obviously everyone you know starts to think well it's just the end of agencies altogether when actually I don't think that's the case I think it's the start of new ones to start forming because they do honest you know, give some really great opportunities to people if they are run correctly. But in the case of V Showjo, they were not run correctly and obviously that is where

6:52 the problem started to arise. Whereas if you got a well-run YouTube agency, you can get them involved with contacts, different sponsorships, and give them opportunities that they would never be able to get as an indie VTuber, which honestly I think is pretty great. And obviously that is why you know uh companies and uh all of these agencies are still going to be around. They say going indie is hard work. uh want people to stop pressuring people to just go indie which again yeah I do think you know pressuring someone just to go indie uh is a bit much I think that you know they can do whatever they want if they want to join another company then they can but I think in the case of Vojo a lot of the members have gone indie I think they were just so you know shaken up from a lot of the stuff that's gone on with Vojo they don't really want to join another company right now because again it could uh spell even more trouble for them uh you know they might accidentally join another bad company or

7:38 you know they won't trust them as much now of what's happened so again I can totally understand that they say US believes that nobody deserves uh this and uh the VTubers uh sorry oh nobody deserves what has been done to the VTubers in Vojo that doesn't mean in an agency is inherently bad. Say also Mitchi and Shoto texted them in the Twitter space. I say this is uh sorry my post space comment said this can also explain why Vo Vishojo poached Quinn. Remember Sou Shoto was also invited into a four to five male uh VT. Uh sounds like Luxium. In fact, recall Yan's law video having Shirou sounds like a good contrast to Curo. So yeah, I think honestly uh V Showjo were planning on making some kind of boy group uh with

8:24 some of them not even being necessarily boys or males or whatever you want to call them. Uh which I think is quite funny. And obviously yeah they were asking about Quinn about Sou and Shoto to see if they wanted to join obviously because yeah Vojo was mainly a like full of girls you know is it was a girl group uh kind of agency but then they switched with Kuro but Kuro was the only one which obviously seemed a little bit odd at first but I think you know obviously it seems like they had bigger plans for it behind the scenes but it just kind of never happened. Obviously people in the comments as well saying, "Yeah, wise words from Yan. Also very grateful they're still here with us." An individual manager that you hire is a luxury only the top 1% can afford. Uh there's a reason reason her manager is probably also her uh BF is a meme. Who

9:10 else would do it free? They say meanwhile agency specializ in taking people with three uh 30 to 100 and putting them in front of a hopeful bigger audience. Uh this is Niji Sanji's uh biggest model uh and until the doi situation last year uh was incredibly successful for them. Theoretically they also provide certain benefits namely talent management support and nearly always a model. Uh they say climbing the ladder is getting hard, getting big, very hard uh and does not require uh only luck. Uh but the skill to back it up when you get lucky. uh to get support on the back end, you're going to either need to uh find someone to do it for free or grow big enough to pay someone or give up something like being indie, which yeah, obviously I think that you know they have had a very good talk there and kind of talked openly about a

9:56 lot of what is going on with Vojo and stuff uh and uh you know their kind of perspective on this and I think yeah I think you know they seem to be doing pretty good at the moment. I don't really know you know what is going on with them at the moment now but I hope that they're okay. you know, obviously it seems like they're much better than they were. Uh, but I hope that everything, you know, goes good for them in the future. But yeah, that's about all I got for this video. If you guys did enjoy it, then don't forget to leave a like and subscribe. Let me know down in the comments what you guys think about this because again, it's a very interesting perspective on how V Showjo were approaching them and kind of reveal some of the other plans that they had behind the scenes uh to kind of move forwards obviously with that uh male group. Uh obviously, you know, some of them not not being, you know, fully male or whatever. Uh but again, it's it's very interesting. Uh, so yeah, I'll see you guys in the next one. That's all.

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