1:01 Hi love. >> Hello. Hello, sweetie. >> Hi. I'm Bernard as well. I haven't said hello to you. I do apologize. Hello there. And hello to everyone on YouTube as well. We are officially streaming live on two platforms. Not two, on two platforms. And all there is is this. That's about it really. That's about all that can be said with a somewhat smirk on the face because uh this can't really be taken that
1:46 seriously. Um because there's nothing to be holding on to and there's nothing to be relinquishing or letting go of. We're here to in a way just gather and you know maybe have some fun and explore the ineffable without any intention to get anywhere really. The simple free exposure and expression that this is it. This is complete. This is wholeness. This is freedom. This is totality. And yet it's nameless. So it's none of those really. It's utterly nameless. This is the nameless. The there's no thing to actually be
2:33 pointed to, to be named, to be labeled, to be boxed in. What we're talking around is just the total immediacy and spontaneity of what is without anything to be stepping out of that or stepping into that. It has no dimension, border or boundary. All borders and boundaries are just empty really emptiness vibrantly empty. Nothing knows that. No one knows that. there's nothing to that can sit in front of a laptop screen and claim to know that as as factual. Um so you you may be tempted or inclined to to believe in what this body is saying as something factual or you may
3:21 also be inclined to challenge it. You know, both both are equally welcome and abundantly free to appear, but this isn't really some kind of speaking from a position of knowing to to help someone get somewhere. There's a simple expression of freedom really outpouring nothingness outpouring and it's total abundantly total. And all sensations, all emotions, all feelings and thoughts are that. All perceptions is that. Yeah. So there's no right or wrong. There's nothing there's no right or wrong way to be. There's no, you know, state that transcends all other states.
4:07 There's no experience of oneness. And there's no person who is more or less holy or sacred than anyone or anything else. There is only the divine. There is only the sacred unconditionally so. So it's all it's all. And me and Tobias were talking earlier about this word, this dynamic word immediacy. He was rejoicing in in this word as one of the few words that really seems to at least conceptually capture that which can't be captured. And that word is immediiacy.
4:54 And perhaps what can be said about immediacy if anything is that there's no distance. Immediacy is not close. It's not fast. It's not timely or spatial whatsoever. What is meant by the word immediacy is so completely already this that there's nothing else apart from that. It's like totally dynamically freshly and freely this. Yeah. Abundant completely abundant. buoyantly bouncing and blasting and booming
5:42 and coming from nowhere with no origin, no foundation, no creation, no manifestation, no origin at all, just immediacy. Immediacy is not a moment from now and it's not a moment ago. Immediacy is not a millimeter from now or here and it's not a millimeter in the past. There's no past, present, future, here and there without separate things to arise. The arising of separation is is an unreal not appearing phenomena. a sort of simulated illusory reality which has no reality to
6:30 it whatsoever. The immediate the immediacy of this is not with any knowing or owning or relating or doing. There's no doer. There's no center to be doing. There's no center to be owning. There's nothing to relate. There's nothing to connect or disconnect. So immediacy is completely indescribable. Really, no word really captures immediacy. Not even the word immediacy captures the word immediacy. But a few words that are my favorite are immediacy, this, and already. Because
7:16 these are kind of rugpulling, rugpulling words that kind of take the weightiness out of the need for something to happen, the need for something to change, the need for something to be different. Even the most unimaginable pain is this immediacy. Yeah. you know, the tenderness, the the the heartbreak and the agony. Yeah. The terror, the fear, the whatever seems to be showing up. It's it's not something really to actually be dealt with, to be gotten rid of or bypassed or or transcended. There there are no lessons really. There
8:03 are no teachers either in this empty appearance. There's nothing to be superior or inferior and there's nothing to get through. So life is not a lesson. It is simply a miraculously totally abundantly empty expression of wholeness. Yeah. And it's freedom. And it doesn't feel like freedom. Um not not for many bodies anyway. Um, but freedom isn't a feeling. Freedom isn't a feeling. Freedom isn't an emotion or a perception, a state, an experience. It's all there is. It's all
8:49 there is. So, this is freedom. It's not the freedom that anyone thought or felt or believed they ever wanted because it's not a thing to be wanted or gone after. It's again too wide open for any of that stuff. The wide openness of this freedom is simply poetically speaking allowing unconditionally allowing everything and yet there's nothing to be doing the allowing. It's an unconditional allowance that everything is equimly this love this unconditional love. So in the in the illusory realm, the unreal illusory realm of me, myself, and
9:38 I, none of that seems to be the case. This seems to be constricted. It seems to be linear. It seems to be spatial and conscious, and it seems to be personal and important maybe. And it feels to be going places. And there seems to be a driver within this appearance that can choose to go this way or that way. And all of that is simply an illusory, an artificial infrastructure built upon nothing. Built upon absolutely nothing at all. The misconceptions of separation, individuality continuity
10:24 separate things to be located and autonomy and the storytelling that may grow out of all of that is just perhaps what seems to be appearing to happen happening. And well then that's seems that's what seems to be appearing to happen. But without this kind of energetic perception of contextualization, there just is naturally simply and ordinarily what appears to be happening. And of course, that's already the case. I mean it's it seems to be frustrating
11:09 and yet obvious abundantly obvious that all there is is what appears to be happening. There's just what appears to be happening. Yeah. And any thought that arises, what about that? Or any idea. How about this? any kind of perception that tries that seems to try that seems to make an attempt to find something other than what's apparently happening is also what's apparently happening. So it's an inescapable edgeless totality and it doesn't need to be escaped and it doesn't need to be retreated from or advanced towards
11:57 This totality has no need and even need is needless. So this is needless. Needless totality. Everything is welcome here. Everything is welcome. Everything is allowed. you know, somewhat speaking humanistically, which doesn't tend to happen that much in these meetings. It's allowed to be a mess. You know, this is allowed to be a mess. This is allowed to be a [ __ ] show. This is allowed to be anger and frustration disappointment.
12:45 This is allowed to be banging hands on the table and demanding that something changes. This is allowed to show up as misinterpreting and ridiculing. This is allowed to express as anything and everything. There's no rules. There's no rules to this empty appearance. No one's giving the green light. No one's giving the red light home. Whatever happens is unconditionally this love. You can't escape it. You can't run away from that.
13:35 You can't invade or evade that which is absolute. It's too loving. It's too wide open. Love is a killer. Love is a divine killer. Let's have a chat.
15:10 So, welcome everyone watching on YouTube. Let us know where you're tuning in from, what you're up to. I could just give a little announcement whilst people still are joining. Um, this weekend I'm in Prague
15:57 and uh there's still a few spaces left although it has actually got quite a few bookings. Um, Prague is a beautiful city for those who haven't been and are contemplating spontaneity this weekend. Or if you happen to be near the Czech Republic, come on down or up or left or right spacelessly. And also of course there is the Tobias and Alexis no ship which is happening every Saturday and it's a lot of fun. It's 700 p.m. till 8:30 p.m. in GMT time. That's the time
16:42 the current time in the UK. We are having a lot of fun with this project. It is growing and it is bursting with vibrancy. Episode three will be this Saturday. And uh it's a real hoot. Episode two has yet to be uploaded. And uh we're having fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun for no meaning or reason at all.
17:46 Hello PA. Hi
18:36 dynamic expression with no intention. It doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense. This doesn't make sense. No intention, no agenda, nothing to get to, no where to be moving towards or away from is spaceless. It's absolutely spaceless. No orientation. unconditional love being edgeless, being total, being non oppositional, that's too wide open for anything to
19:25 to combat, to conflict, to to use or apply or know or relate to. It's it's so wide open. It's it's unfathomably disorientating. Yeah. That is a liberation that as though there was someone, no one could ever want. Yeah. And yet it is absolute home. It's it's homely. It's not Well, it's not homely to a a perception that wants to assert position, but it it is the the home that is absolutely totally most longed for. Yeah.
20:16 Ola Diego. Hello Erica from Hungary. Welcome. Welcome to nowhere. The place that has no space. Greetings from everywhere. TA says very good.
21:22 See what you're saying, Diego. I'll have to translate that. The only thing that can be known is the illusion, you say, because it is itself elillusory knowledge and it is being put out loud, so to speak. Um, so I'm not sure how good Google Translate is, but that's that's what seems to be said there. Um, and yes, we could say that and and as ridiculous as this might sound, um, yes, the illusion is that knowing is happening, that there's a knower and known things.
22:08 And yes, this is an illusion. Separation is an illusion. That there are even things to be separate is an illusion. It's as though you imagine the entirety of absolutely everything which is so abundantly vaster than vast. No edge, no edge at all. There is no edge to this. Everything has miraculously appeared as a point as an orientation, a location. And it's like the entirety of everything has condensed itself into
22:53 a spatial positional locational reality. And then suddenly it seems like there's an abundance of things happening or appearing to happen. There's trees and there's clouds and houses, different things popping up within a field of awareness. And it all looks to be separate and and solid and real. There's like all these things happening and this is completely unreal. There's no substance or reality to that. Yeah. And no again in the illusion knowing being the illusion. Nothing knows this. Yeah. Nothing knows
23:39 this. It's absolutely completely unknowable. And how on earth how on earth could these words utter themselves without a knower? The question might appear, how if knowing is an illusion and separation as an illusion, how could these words speak themselves? Surely they come from a position of knowing. It speaks itself as does everything. The tree speaks itself. The bee pollinating speaks itself. Matter and decay and seasons and weather
24:26 and everything is speaking itself. There's nothing running this show. It's chaos. Divine chaos. But what apparently happens is unknowable because there is no separation. You go on to say yes. Exactly. This is what's this is what seems to be proposed through the positionless uttering of no one listening or speaking. The total abundant immediacy of this freedom which
25:12 has no border, boundary or edge, nothing knowing anything, no one knowing this, no one knowing that. There is only this. This is so so all-encompassing. It's completely annihilating of anything that ever seems to stand apart from it to rise up and say, "Aha, I am or this is or that is." It's uh it swallows up. It swallows up without rhyme or reason.
26:01 So, welcome to the the few uh very lovely familiar faces that have joined on Zoom. Yes, Kiara. I'd love to hear your voice right now, actually, if you're willing. Hello. I was actually going to do the a reaction, but then when you said yes, Kiara. Um, I unmuted. I was just going to do little hearts. Um, oh, there's a the ah, let me share this story. The wonderfulness and the absurdity and
26:47 the unknowingness of what this is is just um right now uh one of my children uh has been diagnosed with anorexia and um they had been hospitalized and then now they're back home >> and uh things are pretty bleak. But the immediacy of what this is is like there is the there is just the screaming, the crying, the throwing, the swearing, the the waiting, the
27:32 silence, the doctors and yet absolutely nothing is happening. M >> the threatening of dying, the the fear of food, the exhaustion, the the doctors, the the preparation of constant copious number of food because um she needs to regain weight critically. um shows how there is absolutely no one and nothing at all happening. >> Mhm. >> The chaos, the silence, the um
28:18 arguments, the crying >> yet completely empty, >> sourceless, and yet there is nothing to prove these words. These words aren't true. They're just words expressing >> the limonality and the absolute eternity and and critically the absolute nothing, no nothing to stick out and say this is the center
29:06 >> and it's so beautiful. >> It is um I guess the closest thing to describe paradoxically grotesely beautiful. M yeah that's um and and then it is also there is no and then don't believe any word I say I don't know anything and then there is also
29:51 this I don't even believe the words I say. Um I guess there is also just this always endlessly. >> Mhm. >> Um Oh yes, that's what I wanted to come up. It was we cannot relate to we we I the the the the me and it's actually really beautiful to be in an intense um medical uh medical psychological storm because
30:40 you really get to see the beauty and the madness of the mind. >> Yes. because it can hide as in everyday life. But when the mind just unleashes itself >> and wants to harm itself in everything, you see how how empty how um transient the me is. But also even the me we we put so many words to describe that nothing is happening and yet our
31:26 brains in this wonderful samsara has to always have something is happening. We can't we can't speak to another body and be um even another body. What is that? But we can't speak without there is me. I have a story. This is my story. This is what's happening. Even the brain itself can't even just usually be without relating itself to a a uh pinpoint of a location of something. And it's just beautiful the the power and grace of absolute
32:13 utter unknowableness, >> right? >> And also I really just love popping in to because even th this is mad. >> Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. And I this is mad because we're like coming together to be like am I really disappearing? And then the speaker saying >> the speaker then saying and there is absolutely nothing even talking about it is madness. But what a joy it is to be mad.
32:59 >> Thank you. Oh, thank you, sweetheart. And much much much much much love to you and your family. It's a madness. Bill asks, "Adida, nondual speaker or spiritual teacher?" What a question. You see, I don't know a great deal about Adida. Um, I know a very very little bit
33:47 about him. Um, if I remember rightly, they uh depicted him as an avatar sent from the beyond who, you know, steps in and shows the Samsaric world what this is about or, you know, I mean, I'm kind of making that up, but that I I mean, that's the gist of what I got from it all. And but, you know, a few things of what he said actually seemed quite stunningly similar to the non-dual lettering that there's no one. And you know it can appear eluser really appear like there's a someone and that he I think he did talk about contraction and contracted energy um as it happens but really there's no such thing as either you know I mean I know it's the easy copout non-dual answer that there's
34:34 you know that there's no such thing as a a speaker or a teacher but but in a way it's true like like somewhat you know um conceptually speaking there there is no such thing as a speaker or a teacher and there's no without separation there's no ability to discern there's no ability to say that's a speaker that's a teacher that's a me and that's a no me you know um all of this just flies wonderfully out the window when it's revealed that everything is equally this yeah so if teachings are happening teachings are happening if speaking is happening speaking is happening none of it is wrong or right none of it's more or less none of it's higher or lower. There's no levels. There's no realms. There's no hierarchy. Really, not without
35:20 separating and abstracting and going into dualistic terminology, which we can do. We can play like it can play as that. But um and I know that in in this answer is a kind of avoidance of of uh validating, you know, teacher and speaker, but it just doesn't seem worth it to go into that because it's kind of irrelevant. Yeah, apparently when this body first started talking about this, so to speak, um it it may have came across like, you know, there's speakers and there's teachers and and this is nonati and that's not nonati. But this apparently in the timeless time of all of this has kind of just grew a bit um
36:07 stale in a way to to talk about things like that there's more or less. I mean we're talking about non we're talking around non-duality which really can't be talked about at all. And so there's no levels to that. Yeah. There's no more or less non-duality. Non-duality isn't found in a in a meeting or a retreat, a satsang. It's not found in the dash of a guru. It's it's not found at the you know the lotus feet of a saint or a yogi or a sage. And it's not found around the back alley of you know slumps or whatever. It's not found because it's all there is. It's even the searching. Yeah. Yeah. It's
36:55 everything. Hello to Janet from Scotland. Welcome. Hi Dory from uh Hungary I think. I'm guessing Sh if that's your name. Apologies if not pronounced right. Is is this if this is it simple? Why also talk about a me or not a me? Future no future. No one someone no location location on and on. It's Yeah, exactly. Exactly. In a way, like that's kind of what this mouth was sort of tiptoeing around or alluding to in the last answer that, you know, to even say that there's someone and
37:41 there's no one, you know, I mean, the the this, you know, the language is somewhat clunky because th this isn't about something that is spoken about. This isn't about something that could be understood or or conceptualized, analyzed, and made into a something. It's it's just absolutely everything. Yeah. And so, you know, there's no shying away from talking about things like that. That that's not that's not intentional. But there's this kind of emptiness, a quality of emptiness in what's being said because it doesn't actually come from or go to anywhere.
38:26 It's simply an expression of immediacy without intention to reach anything else. And that's there's a there's a freedom in that. It seems like there's a basking in an unknowability. Um, which I know will sound like a a happening or a process of some kind. it can't not do in the language again. But there's just the naturalness really the naturalness of this and it's uh yeah it can seem to stop a freight train of seeking energy in its tracks. A freight train going round and round but not really actually going anywhere at all. The uh exposition is completely unfathomable.
39:14 It's beyond words and language altogether. And yet it doesn't exclude that. Language is this too. So this isn't really supposed to look like or feel like or be interpreted as some kind of semantic jujitsu. It's simply an abundant expression of freedom. Yes. And all is welcome as that.
40:06 You've never been close or far to or from the absolute. It's unrelatable. It's too dynamically already goes on to ask a couple more questions in Spanish as it happens. translate says, "In any case, what apparently happens seems indivisible and without
40:51 limits for any of these apparent bodies." Yes. Yes. The indivisible whole which can never be known when there is only that so total is it that it's unknowable. The limited unity is not something hidden although it cannot be known. Yes, beautifully put. beautifully part. We could say again somewhat poetically that it hides in plain sight because it's all there is and even the energy or an energy of seeming to look for that is it too. So then it's like, wow,
41:40 what an absolutely beyond gargantuan cosmic breath of fresh air that this is totally totally the love that's longed for. So radically absolute that is. It's it's just com I mean it's it's it's so so boundless. It's unacceptable. It's it's wrathful, radical, blasphemously and unbelievably total. That is just the an unfathomable love that has no measurement. It can't
42:25 be weighed or measured at all. It's so [ __ ] total. Unbelievable. I don't know the language. Thank you. Thank you.
43:11 If you've recently joined on YouTube, welcome to this gathering that has no direction whatsoever. No destination to be reached, nothing to be surpassed, ascended into or descended down into. There's no direction. Yeah. It's it's just completely completely uh abundantly indescribably without boundary.
45:03 I mean, isn't it amazing that you could switch on or appear to switch on a laptop or a phone screen, click a few buttons here and there, open an application, and end up on a stream looking at a video where somebody is is uttering words and sounds that seem to be coming through a a piece of equipment and brain signals flaring up and ideas and thoughts and memories and perhaps it all seems somewhat jarring and disorienting. Or maybe it all seems to be ordered and structured and it all seems to be timely and coming from
45:49 places and going to other places and and it's completely mad. It's complete madness. This is a divine hysteria which literally has no origin. I mean, I know that this body might sound like a bit of a mad scientist right now in it in the dynamic expression of it, but but it's completely mad that this appears to be happening and yet there's nothing to actually be objectified. What is there to objectify and what subject is there to do that? And all of this like absolute equinimous vibrancy of nothing is just bouncing and and and you know again I'm using alliteration now for some reason or no reason at all
46:35 but it's bouncing and blasting and booming buoyantly beyond the beyond. And it's coming from nowhere and going to nowhere. It's absolutely indescribable. Yes, Jennifer says, "Yes, indeed.
47:52 We've also got tomorrow's Thursday morning Zoom for those who are early birds in the in the UK or Europe or for the Aussies and the New Zealanders who like to listen and zoom in. You some people don't know. It's funny. Uh we need Zooms each week and some people still forget or don't know that there's different Zooms happening within the week. So for those down under and you feel like joining a Zoom, you're always welcome. Thursday morning in British time, that is 900 a.m. till 10 a.m. It's all donation based, of course, as is this meeting.
48:49 Is this on Zoom, too? Where is the link? Yes, it is on Zoom, my love. That's where it's streaming from. The link is on the website.
50:34 All right, Thomas. This is a playful and passionate celebratory explosion of the outpouring
51:20 from no source that this is it. This is it. Whatever that appears to be unconditionally, this is it. This is it. >> What do you mean when you say this is it? Exactly. This >> like >> this it's total >> existence. >> Yeah. >> Existence would mean to stand apart or stand out of course. >> So as as we're talking about words I
52:07 mean that's what the word existence literally means. Um, but but this like just this it I mean I'm I'm not going to point there or here because it can't be pointed to cuz even the even this is it. Even this is it. Yeah. It's completely insane. It's just this. I mean it can't it can't there's no it even to be named but it's just so dynamically immediately this. Yeah. And that's >> when you say I mean >> sorry I interrupted you. Sorry. >> I can't describe >> carry on. Yeah. That was >> say when you say this like for me I just go to sensory information like there's this appearance happening like there's
52:53 vision and sound in the body. >> That's what I think of when I say this. >> But >> that's this. Yeah. And even the thinking oh >> yes, >> you mean something different. >> No, no, no. It's all this. It's all this. Yeah. Like the thought is this. The thought, what does that mean? Is this the thought? Okay. Let's have a look. That's this. Sensation is this. Whatever is happening is this. Yeah. Whatever is appearing to happen is absolutely unconditionally and equanimously this. >> Like anything that could ever appear >> is this. You're saying is is equal to
53:41 what's appearing here. >> Yeah. It's this. Yeah. >> It's the same thing is what you're saying. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> And it's timeless as well. It's absolutely timeless because all that's ever found is what's immediately appearing to show up. I mean, it may very very well seem like and look like even that there's a a timeline unfolding, but but uh yeah, that's that's an illusion really. It looks that way, but it's not it's not really it's not really happening like that. >> How can you say that though? How could you know that? That >> exactly? I mean, it sounds like someone knows it, doesn't it?
54:26 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It sounds like someone knows that this is timeless. And I understand that. And I understand also how frustrating that could appear to be. >> Um, but it's um, sorry, it might be jumping a little bit.
55:12 Is Alexa gone? >> He's gone. >> Sorry about that. >> She's gone. No, that's magic. >> The killer in the room has returned. All right, where we are? Where are we? What's going on? Okay, YouTube. Yeah, sorry about that, people. The I think the internet cut out. Um, I've just done the mobile hotspot, so we should be all right. Even though we've only got two timeless minutes left for me to ramble on about how there's no time and how there could be no one to know that there's no time. Yeah. Well, it seems to outpour itself, you see, in a way in the
55:59 story line, which of course also suggests time, which is why language is rubbish um to to ever even try to describe this, but in in the apparent story line, what seemed to fall apart was a was a visceral center. Now, I'm not falling back on this as some kind of evidential, you know, um, claim that this speaks from a position of knowing or or authority, God forbid. But the the the perceptual centered energy feeling viscerally located and able to to claim this and name this and know this. It's like it's it's unfathomable. And yet it's
56:45 undeniable psychossematically that a centered visceral charged energy disappeared and left no trace of individual individuality behind. And yet the characteristics still convey themselves much in the way they did before. So the body obviously has a kind of characteristic the way it expresses itself, the way it talks and all that stuff. It's quite natural and ordinary. Um but but it's undeniable that the gestures and emotions of every every movement is just happening by itself. Furthermore, it's it seems like in the absence of a particularly illusory perception and misperception,
57:32 the the sense of there being something to be aware of this has completely disappeared. And furthermore, even more than furthermore, that disappearance is is not really registered as a happening. And because there's no point to refer energetically speaking, not conceptually, but energetically speaking, there's no point to refer to a past that once happened. And so if there's no sense of point within time, there's no sense of point in space, it's it's complete disorientation in every imaginable way. And so with that
58:20 goes the sense of continuity. And if continuity has disappeared, then it never was there to actually have happened because disappeared suggests something that once was. and what once was doesn't register. Which is why it's often said in so in in non-duality gatherings and meetings, it never happened because it was a dream of happenings. So it's an incomprehensible collapse of all cups really. And um that's that's possibly just about as good as language could ever do as as attempting to describe that. And yet it fails dramatically because it doesn't really accurately describe or or capture
59:07 the inescapable immediacy of this. And yet somehow it's like so palpably and abundantly and undeniably immediiacy this and memory appears. You know, anything can appear, but it's not sensed as linear. It's not sensed as spatial or conscious or autonomous. The absence of these perceptions leaves only this. Leaves only this. Yeah.
59:56 So what's interesting to me is how when that self seems to stop or die >> seems to endow that body with like some connection to objective truth in some like universal way like you can say there is no that body I mean can say there is no self in existence which is like sounds like a very >> like an objective claim about >> reality you know what I mean like how how could it do that that's so mysterious. >> I know, right? I know. Like, how how can I mean, how can two tectonic plates pull apart a piece of land to then introduce volcanic and geothermal activity? How can, you know, a solar system organize, you know, eight or nine planets to to to
1:00:44 orbit around the sun? You know, like how how can bees have the intelligence to to pollinate and and you know, photosynthesis like how can any of this occur? How can any of this appear? In the same way, how can this mouth utter these words with with with such seeming conviction and yet nothing behind to do that? It's extraordinary. >> Yeah. I mean, and there's no wish to to convince you or or to change you or anyone else's set of beliefs or opinions of what they appear to have. Uh it it's no I mean I know that when this gets passionate about it it seems quite convictional and maybe even authoritative and there's never an intention for that to be the case but
1:01:29 it's just like it seems to be such a passionate outpouring of of an energy that that can't possibly really actually be described and and in that is a yeah it's a kind of like an explosive passion and yet it does not seem to come from anywhere. Yeah. So when you say these things, there's no sense of like you're knowing what you're saying. Like it's it's not like you're speaking about football where you're like connecting it to conceptual knowledge or sensory information. It's not like connected to any information that way. You're just sort of speaking. >> I mean, you know, I'm not a massive fan of football, but if I was, >> it would be the it would be the same
1:02:15 situation. Yeah. It would be the same thing like just talking is happening you know sharing a a beer and having a chat about sports or or the news or I mean news and politics aren't my favorite either but but chatting about music maybe that's a bit more >> yeah like just having chat and like and there's there's the appearance of engaging and we could tell a story about how the body seems to have accumulated you know words terms and concepts it went to you know we can tell the story about how it went to, you know, uh, well, it didn't go to meetings, but it listened to a heck of a lot of videos and then and then that seemed to condition the body and the brain to think a certain way >> and then it started expressing this and it seems a bit like what that guy was
1:03:00 saying who they were listening to, >> you know, that that would be the story line. But but energetically there's there's something else. And I know I don't want to make it sound mysterious for goodness sake, but but energetically it was palpable. It was palpable that this is expressing itself. Yes. As does everything. And there's a there's a particular what seems to be even though it's not doesn't actually have any substance at all but there seems to be a a um a perception which felt itself to be real aware located continuous conscious and autonomous. Yeah. And and in the absence of that particular and I
1:03:47 I mean it's so rubbish the language here. I know how stupid like how how dualistic and separate-based and validating of separation it sounds in the language of it. It can't help do that because to some extent language seems to have been conditioned for the most part by this experiential center. So going into the the the conversing about it in language is validating that the illusion is something that is actually appearing to happen. Nevertheless, the illusory misperception feels to be all of those things conscious continuous located autonomous and in the absence of it it's un it's it's just somehow not known by anything. It's not
1:04:35 known because the the whole sense of Noah is gone. And yet, oxymoronically speaking, it's undeniable that this appearance has no origin. This appearance has no driver. This appearance has no before and after and it has no location, no no position. Yeah. You're saying this sense of a self is is actually not happening is what you're saying. It's like it's an illusion. But you're also saying that it couldn't like there couldn't be a real self. Are you also saying that like it's not possible in existence for there to be a real self? >> I think it's more like a story really. I think the the
1:05:21 >> I think the self is a story. I would suggest I know the word is saying I you know that uh that >> the language is is speaking in this way but but the self is a story. Yeah. >> It's like an archetype. You imagine these beautiful symbols of gods and deities and Greek you know things. It's like it's a it's an archetype which never actually appears. It's a story whether we call it me, ego, self individual it's it's not actually something that ever really appears to happen. >> So the nature ex the nature of existence
1:06:07 is just in such a way that it's not possible for there to be a self. Is that what that what you're saying? >> Um it just never seems to appear. Yeah, it's never appeared. That doesn't mean that doesn't mean that it couldn't. >> Just say it's never appeared doesn't mean it. >> Well, it seems l it seems like anything can appear to happen, but it doesn't seem like a self has actually ever appeared to happen yet. >> What you mean for that body? >> Well, for anybody really. Yeah. For anybody. >> It's like how can you say that? How could you >> I generalize to like all existence? I know. I mean, I am of course I am of course differentiating the word self
1:06:54 from body because bodying is you I mean I don't even really want to say a body is appearing to happen because it's too objectified. It's it's tooable but bodying does appear to be happening. Yeah. >> Bodying appears to be happening but there isn't a selfloc inside of it. Yeah. It's just Yeah, >> it's this sort of mis It's this misperception that it seems energetically so viscerally like there's someone living behind these eyes and they're moving from these eyes. They're actually behind the eyes and looking out of them seeing
1:07:40 objects. And not only that, they're behind the ears hearing sounds. They're behind the nose smelling fragrances and and odor and they're behind the tongue tasting textures and feeling textures through like it's like it feels like it's in within somewhere. It doesn't know where it is, but it feels here and it feels located and and it's seeming to move through the doors of perception as Aldus Huxley might say it that way. like it's it's seeing an objectified reality and it's here and this is Yes. It's an unreal simulated phenomena. >> Mhm. >> It's just like there's a kind of energetic quality to that which is which
1:08:27 is somewhat proposed to be an illusion. You >> but not just an illusion there. You mean it's an illusion full stop? Like because you like you're saying that it's also an illusion here, not just for that >> the here. Yeah. I mean that the the here itself is is that illusion. Yes. >> Interesting. It's nice talking with you, Thomas. >> Yeah, cheers.
1:09:14 >> Great dynamic, provocative questions. So, spiciness is good. Self as an archetype like the Greek gods. Yeah. And it's it's sort of like just a playful expression really. Yeah. Unconditional over thereess Christ the player welcome hello the illusion of you. You don't have any answers only the same old same old this is it and then get all happy and smiley about it as if it is the most amazing thing when you don't even exist. Who are you? Very good. Very
1:10:00 good. Yes. Very very good. Greeting beautiful. Hello boundless dancing ocean. Much much love to you and much much love to you all. Even though there is no you. Much love unconditionally and abundantly. Yeah. Unconditional love. So total it doesn't see a person. It doesn't see a you. It doesn't see a me. It doesn't see anything when it's apparently unconditionally everything. It's uh the wholeness that could never be known, described, or comprehended. A wholeness that is all inclusive and
1:10:45 all-encompassing. Nothing stands apart from that. Nothing stands away from that. It's not split. It's not divided. It's not united when there is no things to be apart. So this is full stop and this is not full stop. Much love everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for hanging out. See some of you tomorrow morning in the GMT. See some of you in Prague. and see some of you at the Alexis and Tobias no show this Saturday 700 p.m. till 8:30
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