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0:01 >> THE JANUARY 6TH SITUATION FROM BEGINNING TO. FROM BEGEGINNING TO. >> END. >> END. >> AND EVEN N SOME OF. >> AND EVEN SOME OF. >> THE LANGUAGE. >> THE L LANGUAGE. >> HE HAS USED ALONG THE WAY. >> HE HAHAS USED ALONG THE WAY. BUT LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS BUT LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK AS FAR AS S WE KN. GOING TO WORK AS FAR AS WE KNOW. JOINING US NOW, FORMER U.S. JOINING US NOW, FORMER U.S. CAPITOL POLICE CHIEF TOM MANGER. CAPITOL POLICE CHIEF TOM MANGER. HE'S AN MSNBC. HE'S AN MSNBC. >> LAW. >> LAW. >> ENFORCEMENT ANANALYST. THANK >> ENFORCEMENT ANALYST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COCOMING ON TE YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING. WHAT'S YOYOUR SHOW THIS MORNING. WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF HOW THIS. SENSE OF HOW THIS. >> WILL WORK? >> WILL WORK? >> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, AFTER >> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, AFTER LISTENING. LISTSTENING. >> TO THE PRESS. >> TO THE PRESS. >> CONFEFERENCE YESTERDAY, I, I >> CONFERENCE YESTERDAY, I, I FEEL. FEEL. >> MUCH. BETTER THIS MORNING. >> M MUCH. BETTER THIS MORNING. >> JUST IN. >> JUST IN. >> THE LAST 24 HOURSRS. >> THE LAST 24 HOURS. >> CHIEF PAM SMITH. >> CHIEF PAM SMITH. >> OF THE METROPOLITAN POLICE >> OF THE METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT. DEPARTRTMENT. >> HAS SPOKEN. WITH TERRY COLE, >> HAS SPOKEN. WITH TERRY COLE, THE INTERIM COMMISSIONER. THE INTERIM COMMISSIONER. >> FOR THE METROPOLITAN POLICE >> FOR THE METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT. AT LEAST FOR THE DEPARTMENT. AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT. NEXT. >> 30 0 DAYS. THEY HAVE SPOKEN.
0:46 >> 30 DAYS. THEY HAVE SPOKEN. >> THEY HAVE. >> THEY HAVE. >> MR. COLE. HAS HAS. >> MR. COLE. HAS HAS. >> TOLD CHIEF. SMITH THAT. >> TOLD CHIEF. SMITH THAT. >> WE WOULD LIKE. >> WE WOULD LIKE. >> MPD TO LEAD THIS EFFORT. HE >> MPD TO LEAD THIS EFFORT. HE WANTS. WANTS. >> THIS TO BE. >> THIS TO BE. >> A COLLABORATION. . AND FRANK, >> A COLLABORATION. AND FRANKLY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAWAY I. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I. >> SEE THIS AS AS. >> SEE THIS AS AS. >> BEING SUCCESSFUL. >> BEING SUCCESSFUL. >> AS YOU KNOW. >> AS YOU KNOW. >> AS A FORMER. >> AS A FORMER. >> POLICE CHIEF. >> POLICE CHIEF. >> IF SOMEBODY. >> WOULD. >> HAVE COMEME TO. >> ME AND. >> AND SAID. >> AND SAID. >> HEY, WE'RE. >> HEY, , WE'RE. >> GOING TO BRING, YOU KNOW. >> GOING TO BRING, YOU KNOW. 500,000 MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT 500,000 MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. OFOFFICERS. >> IN TO ASSIST YOU. >> IN TO ASSIST YOU. >> WHAT'S NOT TO. >> LIKE. >> ABOUT THAT? YOU C COULD. >> ABOUT THAT? YOU COULD. CERTAINLY MAKE. CERTAINLY MAKE. >> AN IMPACT ON CRIME WITH THAT >> AN IMPACT ON CRIME WITH THAT KIND OF SURGE, BUT THIS IS. KIND OF SURGE, BUT THIS IS. >> GOING TO BE. >> GOING TO BE. >> A TEMPORARY THING. MAKE NO >> A TEMPORARY THING. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NOT MISTAKE ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING. SOMETHING. >> THAT CAN BE SUSTAINED. >> THAT CAN BE SUSTAINED. >> OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
1:33 >> OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. >> SO I'M. >> SO I'M. >> VERY SORRY. >> VERY SORRY. >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO. >> I DIDN'T MEANAN TO. >> INTERRUPT YOU. >> INTERRUPT YOU. >> GO AHEAD. YEAH. I'M VERY >> GO AHEAD. YEAH. I'M VERY ENCOURAGED. ENCOURURAGED. >> THAT THAT. CHIEF SMITH. >> THAT THAT. CHIEF SMITH. >> AND MR. >> AND MR. >> COLE HAVE TALKED D ABOUT THIS >> COLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A COCOLLABORATION AND THA. BEING A COLLABORATION AND THAT. MPD IS GOING TO. MPD IS GOING TO. >> BASICALLY LEAD. >> BASICALLY LEAD. >> THE DECISIONS ON HOW. THESE >> THE DECISIONS ON HOW. THESE RESOURCES ARE DEPLOYED. RESOURCES ARE DEPLOYED. >> SO, CHIEF, IS SOMEONE WHO LED >> SO, CHIEF, IS SOMEONE WHO LED THE CAPITOL POLICE UP. UNTIL THE CAPITOL POLICE UP. UNTIL JUST A COUPLE OF M MONTHS AGO. JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. >> WHO. >> WHO. >> UNDERSTSTANDS WASHINGTON. >> UNDERSTANDS WASHINGTON. >> VERY WELL. WE'RE HEARING TWO >> VERY WELL. WE'RE HEARING TWO DIFFERERENT VERSIONS. DIDIFFERENT VERSIONS. >> OF THE STORY OF. >> OF THE STORY OF. >> CRIME IN THAT CITY. WE'RE >> CRIME IN THAT CITY. WE'RE HEARING THAT THE CRIME R RATES E HEARING THAT THE CRIME RATES ARE DOWNWN 26%. VIOLENT CRIME. DOWN 26%. VIOLENT CRIME. >> RATES OVERALL. >> RATES OVERALL. >> THAHAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBE. >> THAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBERE. >> BUT WE'RE. >> BUT WE'RE. >> HEARING MORE. >> ANECDOTAL STORIES THAT. >> IT STILL L DOESN'T FEEL SAFE. >> IT STILL DOESN'T FEEL SAFE. WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF THE. WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF THE. >> DIRECTION, ANYWAY? THAT
2:19 >> DIRECTION, ANYWAY? THAT CRIME. CRIME. >> HAS GONE IN WASHINGTON >> HAS GONE IN WASHINGTONN LATELY? LATELY? >> WELL. >> WELL. >>>> THERE'S. >> THERE'S. >> NO QUESTION THAT. >> NO QUESTION THAT. >> IT. HAS G GONE DOWN OVER THE. >> IT. HAS GONE DOWN OVEVER THE. LAST COUPLE. OF YEARS. BUT I LAST COUPLE. OF YEARS. BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE. HEARD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE. HEARD JOE. JOE. >>>> TALK ABOUT. >> TALK ABOUT. >>>> HOW HE. >> HOW H HE. >> FEELS. EVERY RESIDENT OF DC, >> FEELS. EVERY RESIDENT OF DC, EVERY EVERYBODY. EVERY EVERYBODY. >> I MEAN.N. I'VE LIVED AROUND >> I MEAN. I'VE LIVED AROUND WASHINGTON, DC. WASHINGTON, DC. >> FOR THE LAST T 40 PLUS YEARS. >> FOR THE LAST 40 PLUS YEARS. AND I WILL TELL YOU, I FEEL VERY AND I WILL TELL YOU, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN. COMFORTABLE IN. >> IN MOST OF THE CITY. >> IN MOST OF THE CITY. >> I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLACES. >> I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLACES. >> IN. >> IN. >> THE CITY. >> THE CITY. >> THAT ITIT'S PROBABLY NOT AS >> THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS SAFE. TO BE WALKINING AROUND AFR SAFE. TO BE WALKING AROUND AFTER DARK, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, AS DARK, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY. SOMEMEBODY. >> THAT GOES TO THE THEATER, >> THAT GOES TO THE THEATER, GOES TO RESTAURANTS. GOES TO RESTAURANTS. >> MY, MY FAMILY SPENDS A LOT OF >> MY, MY FAMILY SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN DC. I FEEL. LIKE THE
3:06 TIME IN DC. I FEEL. LIKE THE CITY IS SAFE, BUT IT'S A BIG CITY IS SAFE, BUT IT'S A BIG CITY. IT'S LIKE. CITY. IT'S LIKE. >> EVERY BIG CITY IN THIS >> EVERY BIG CITY IN THIS COUNTRY. COUNTRY. >> THEY DODO. >> THEY DODO. >> HAVE CRIME. >> HAVE CRIME. >> CRIME. >> CRIMEME. >> THEY DO HAVE CRIME SPIKES. IF >> THEY DO HAVE CRIME SPIKES. IF YOYOU LOOK AT TWO. YEARS AGO, TY YOU LOOK AT TWO. YEARS AGO, THEY HAD A SPIKE IN HOMICIDES AND HAD A SPIKE IN HOMICIDES AND THEY WERE THEY WERE UP OVER 200 THEY WERE THEY WERE UP OVER 200 HOMICIDES. WELL, NOW THAT. HOMICIDES. WELL, NOW THAT. >> THAT HAS BEEN. SIGNIFICANTLY >> THAT HAS BEEN. SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, VIOLENT CRIME HAS GONE REDUCED, VIOLENT CRIME HAS GONE DOWN OVER THE. DOWN OVER R THE. >> LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. >> LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. >> SO ITIT. . >> IS TRENDING. >>>> IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND >> IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND YEAH, SO I MY HOPE IS THAT THIS YEAH, SO I MY HOPE IS THAT THIS THIS ACTION, THIS. THIS ACTION, THIS. >> SURGE OF, OF FEDERAL >> SURGE OF, OF FEDERAL RESOURCES DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON RESOURCES DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN'T THE CITY. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN'T COME IN FOR 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, COME IN FOR 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, SHOOT HOMELESS PEOPLE OFF AND SHOOT HOMELESS PEOPLE OFF AND THEN LEAVE. AND EXPECT THAT. THEN LEAVE. AND EXPECT THAT. >> EVERYTHING'S GOING. >> EVERYTHING'S GOINING. >> TO. JUST REMAIN THE SAME.
3:52 >> TO. JUST REMAIN THE SAME. PEOPLE WILL COME BACACK. CRIME PEOPLE WILL COME BACK. CRIME WILL SORT OF. WILL SORT OF. >> LEVEL O OFF TO THE TO WHERE T >> LEVEL OFF TO THE TO WHERE IT TYPICALLY IS. TYPICALLY IS. >> BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE. >> BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE. >> THE METROPOLITAN N POLICE >> THE METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB AT DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB AT TRYING, AT FIRST. TRYING, AT FIRST. >> OF ALL, AT DELILIVERING POLIE >> OF ALL, AT DELIVERING POLICE SERVICE. SERVICE. >>>> TO THE RESIDENTS OF. D.C. D >> TO THE RESIDENTS OF. D.C. AND JUST FINISHED WITH ONE OTHER JUST FINISHED WITH ONE OTHER POINT. THE PRESIDENT WAS WAS POINT. THE PRESIDENT WAS WAS SURPRISED. SURPRPRISED. >> AND REMARKED ABOUT. >> AND REMARKED ABOUT. >> HE HAD NO IDEA THAT THE >> HE HAD NO IDEA THAT THE METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD 3500 OFFICERS. HAD 3500 OFFICERS. >> AND HE. >> AND HE. >> S SAID, MY GOD, THAT'S THAT'S >> SAID, MY GOD, THAT'S THAT'S AN ARMY.Y. AND, AND. IF YOU. LOK AN ARMY. AND, AND. IF YOU. LOOK AT THE STATISTICS FOR A CITY OF AT THE STATISTICS FOR A CITY OF 700,000 PEOPLE, 3500 COPS IS A 700,000 PEOPLE, 3500 COPS IS A LOT OF COPS. IT'S ONE OF. LOT OF COPS. IT'S ONE OF. >> THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA. >> THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA. >> YOU KNOW, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
4:38 >> YOU KNOW, POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER. HOWEVER. >> T THIS IS A UNIQUE POLICE >> THIS IS A UNIQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. DEPAPARTMENT. >> THEY HAVE. >> THEY Y HAVE. >> RESPONSIBILITIES THAT OTHER CITIES DO. >> NOT HAVE. EVEVERY DAY THE >> NOT HAVE. EVERY DAY THE METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT ISIS DEALING. IS DEALING. >>>> WITH. WITH DEMONSTRATIONS D >> WITH. WITH DEMONSTRATIONS AND PROTESTS. PROTOTESTS. >> AND. OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. >> AND. OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. >> ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THE >> ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE NATION'S FACT THAT THIS IS THE NATION'S CAPITAL. CAPITAL. >> SO O I THINK. >> SO I THINK. >> IF YOU ASK. >> IF YOU ASK. >> C CHIEF SMITH, IF YOU ASK, YU >> CHIEF SMITH, IF YOU ASK, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO I'VE BEEEEN KNOW, GOING BACK TO I'VE BEEN FRIENDS. FRFRIENDS. >> WITH EVERY POLICE. >> WITH EVERY POLICECE. >> CHIEF, YOU KNOW. >> CHIEFEF, YOU KNOW. >> BACK THROUGH. >> BACK THROUGH.H. >> CHUCK RAMSEY. AND IF YOU ASK >> CHUCK RAMSEY. AND IF YOU ASK EVERY POLICE CHIEF, THEY WOULD EVERY POLICE CHIEF, THEY WOULD TELL YOU, NO, WE NEED MORE COPS. TELL YOU, NO, WE NEED MORE COPS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT. BUT AGAIN, A GOOD INVESTMENT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S D.C. IS. JUST LIKE SO MANY IT'S D.C. IS. JUST LIKE SO MANY OTHER CITIES THAT IT DOES HAVE OTHER CITIES THAT IT DOES HAVE CRIME ISSUES. A LOT OF CRIME CRIME ISSUES. A LOT OF CRIME ISSUES ARE ARE IN PARTICULAR ISSUES ARE ARE IN PARTICULAR AREAS OF.
5:23 >> THE CITY. >> AND MY, M MY, MY QUESTION IS. >> AND MY, MY, MY QUESTION IS. >> WILL WE. >> WILL WE. >> FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE. >> FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE. >> SAME SURGE. >> SAME SURGE. >> IN. >> IN. >> NORTHWEST A AND NORTHEAST. >> NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST. >> AS S WE FIND IN SOUTHEAST? S, >> AS WE FIND IN SOUTHEAST? SO, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW. >> WE NEED. >> WE NEED. >>>> THE WHOLE CITY NEEDS TO, YU >> THE WHOLE CITY NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, COULD BENEFIT. KNOW, COULD BENEFIT. >> FROM FROM. >> FROM FROMOM. >> THESE FEDERAL RESOURCES. >> THESE FEDERAL RESOURCES. >>>> AND I. >> AND I. >> HOPE IT'S NOT. JUST LAW >> HOPE IT'S NOT. JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT. ENFORCEMENT.T. >> THAT THERE'S. >> THAT T THERE'S. >> OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES FOR >> OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES S FOR THE HOMELESS FOR, YOU KNOW, TO THE HOMELESS FOR, YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE TRUANCY, ALL THOSE KINDS REDUCE TRUANCY, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT W WILL IMPACT. OF THINGS THAT WILL IMPACT. >> THE CRIME. I HOPE T THAT >> THE CRIME. I HOPE THAT THERE'S. THERE'S. >> INVESTMTMENT AS WELL. >> INVESTMENT AS WELL. >> FORMER U.S. >> FORMER U.S. >> CAPITOL POLICE. >> CAPITOL POLICE. >> CHIEF AND MSNBC LAW