ENGLISH SPEECH | JD VANCE: Student's Immigrant Checkmate (English Subtitles)

简要总结

这段对话涉及了关于移民、宗教信仰和文化融合等多个重要议题。一位观众向当时的副总统提问,质疑其移民政策以及在跨宗教家庭中如何教育孩子。副总统回应了关于移民政策的质疑,强调了尊重合法移民途径,同时也表达了对未来降低移民数量的意愿。他还分享了自己与非基督教背景的妻子如何共同决定孩子们的宗教教育,以及在信仰上的个人观点。对话还触及了美国社会信任和社会凝聚力的问题,以及在移民问题上左右翼观点的潜在矛盾。

  • 移民政策:在尊重合法移民的同时,未来应减少移民数量,以维护国家利益。
  • 跨宗教家庭:夫妻双方应互相尊重,共同决定孩子的宗教教育。
  • 社会凝聚力:过高的移民数量可能破坏社会信任,影响美国自由和繁荣。

观众提问:移民政策与跨宗教家庭

一位观众向当时的副总统提问,首先质疑了他对移民问题的立场,特别是在他们为了合法移民已经投入了大量时间和金钱之后,质疑他为何要阻止他们继续留在这里。她还询问了副总统如何平衡自己与非基督教妻子的信仰,以及如何在跨文化、跨种族、跨宗教的家庭中教育孩子,避免孩子们认为父亲的宗教比母亲的更优越。此外,她还质疑了将基督教作为衡量一个人是否热爱美国的标准的必要性。

副总统回应:移民、承诺与未来

副总统首先回应了关于移民的问题,他强调,如果美国通过法律并向某人做出承诺,美国必须遵守承诺。他澄清说,他所指的是那些违反美国法律进入美国的人,以及未来减少移民数量的问题。他认为,即使有人通过合法途径为美国做出了贡献,但这并不意味着美国就必须无限制地接纳更多的人。他强调,不能让过去适用于国家的政策束缚国家的未来,并且作为副总统,他的职责是为美国人民的利益着想。

个人信仰与家庭安排

副总统随后回答了关于跨宗教家庭的问题。他坦诚妻子在印度教家庭长大,但并不特别虔诚。他透露,在遇到妻子时,两人都认为自己是不可知论者或无神论者。他们通过沟通达成共识,决定让孩子们接受基督教教育,并且孩子们也在基督教学校上学。他表示,虽然他希望妻子最终也能被基督教所感动,但他尊重每个人的自由意志,并认为这是家庭成员之间需要共同解决的问题。

移民数量与社会凝聚力

副总统最后就移民问题作了进一步阐述。他指出,确定合适的移民数量需要考虑具体情况。他回顾了1920年代美国通过的移民改革法案,该法案在40年内几乎将移民数量降至零,使得不同文化背景的移民能够更好地融入美国文化。他认为,当前美国移民系统存在两个问题,并提到过去有保守派智库人士认为,增加国家多样性可以降低社会信任,从而削弱工会的力量。因此,他认为,不应无限制地接纳移民,否则会破坏美国自由和繁荣所依赖的社会信任。他表示,目前美国应该接受的移民数量远低于现在的水平,以重建社会共同体。

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0:00 I did not agree with many of the things that you said right ahead of this but I don't think that's my point to discuss here. What I want to ask is you are married to a woman who is not Christian in her Wikipedia. I mean I just looked that up. I I wanted to know what her faith was. I didn't know this before but she still calls herself Hindu. You are re raising two kids, three kids in interracial I mean cultural racial religious household. How are you maintaining or how are you teaching your kids not to keep your religion ahead of their mother's religion? Or how are you teaching them that your kind, their dad

0:48 kind who got here just few years or few hundred year few decades ago is different or is better than your mom's kind who got here just a generation before. How are you balancing that? And when you talk about too many immigrant here, what is when did you guys decide that number? Why did you sell us a dream? You made us spend our youth, our wealth in this country and gave us a dream. You don't owe us anything. We have worked hard for it. Then how can you as a vice president stand there and say that we have too many of them now and we are going to take them out to people who are here rightfully so by

1:36 paying the money that you guys asked us. You gave us the path and now can now how can you stop it and tell us we don't belong here anymore. And one more thing. I'm sorry. One more thing. Do you have to be >> There's a lot there. I don't know if I'm going to remember all this, but I I will try. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to say all of this and please take it with due. I mean, I'm saying all of this go ahead. I have no intention of causing a scene here or anything, but >> we're not close to causing a scene. Don't worry. >> But we talked about Christianity, all of this. I'm not even Christian and I'm here standing to so support. Why are we making Christianity one of the major thing that you have to have in common to be one of you guys to show that I love

2:22 America just as you do? Why is that still a question? Why do I have to be a Christian or >> Okay, so I there there was a lot there and I'm going to try to respond to as much of it as I can. So on on the question of of immigration, so first of all, I can believe that we should have lower immigration levels. But if the United States passed a law and made a promise to somebody, the United States, of course, has to honor that promise. Nobody's talking about that. I'm talking about people who came in in violation of the laws of the United States of America. And I'm talking about in the future reducing the number reducing the number of people. Sorry what? >> May I continue on that? Because when you

3:08 just said you are not stopping with the people who came here legally, right? But you are pushing out policies that hurt us and these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies are just creating >> No, ma'am. Okay. So, so again, I I I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to finish answering the question and then um if you know if if I've answered all nine of your questions in less than 15 minutes, then we can keep on going. I we got to have a little fun, right? So, here here's here's the thing. I I can believe that the United States should should lower its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting that there are people who

3:53 have come here through immigration path lawful immigration pathways that have contributed to the country. But just because one person or 10 people or a 100 people came in legally and contributed to the to the United States of America, does that mean that we're thereby committed to let in a million or 10 million or a 100red million people a year in the future? No. that that's not right. We cannot have I'll I'll go and finish. We cannot have an immigration policy where what was good for the country 50 or 60 years ago binds the country inevitably for the future. There's too many people who want to come to the United States of America. And my job as vice president is not to look out for the interest of the whole world. It's to look out for the people of the United States. Now,

4:42 now you you you you asked you asked a personal question about about our interfaith household. And yes, my wife did not grow up Christian. I think it's fair to say that she grew up in a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in either direction. In fact, when I met my wife, we were both I would consider myself an agnostic or an atheist, and that's what I think she would have considered herself as well. you know, everybody has to come to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come to our arrangement is she's my best friend. We talk to each other about this stuff. So, we've decided to raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go to school, they go to a Christian school. Uh our 8-year-old did his his first communion about a year ago. That's the way that we have come to our arrangement. But thank you.

5:30 My 8-year-old was also very proud of his first communion. Thank you guys. I'll tell them that old miss wishes them the best. But I I think everybody has to have this this this own conversation when you're in a marriage. I mean, it's true for friends of mine who are in Protestant and Catholic marriages, friends of mine who are in, you know, atheists and Christian marriages. You just got to talk to the only advice I can give is you just got to talk to the person that God has put you with and you've got to make those decisions as a family unit. For us, it works out. Now, most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church. as I've told her and I've said publicly and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends. Do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly I do wish that

6:15 because I believe in the Christian gospel and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way. But if she doesn't then God says everybody has free will and so that doesn't cause a problem for me. That's something you work out with your friends, with your family, with the person that you love. Again, the most one of the most important Christian principles is that you respect free will. Usha is closer to the priests who baptize me than maybe I am. They talk about this stuff. My attitude is you figure this stuff out as a family and you trust in God to have a plan and you try to follow it as best as you can. And that's what I try to do. I want to make a final point. [Applause] So, I I don't want to cut you off. I want to be respectful to all the people behind you in line, but I want to make this point about immigration. Okay,

7:02 if you ask the question, what is the exact right number of immigrants for the United States to let in? It is just very specific on the context. If you go back to the 1920s, the United States passed an immigration reform act that effectively cut down immigration to close to zero for 40 years in this country. And what happened over those 40 years? the many many people who had come from many different foreign countries and different foreign cultures, they assimilated into American culture and there was an expectation that they would assimilate into American culture. I think we have two problems in our immigration system today. And my my guess is you're probably a slightly more leftist political persuasion, liberal political persuasion, maybe not. But here's the thing. I remember back back in in my establishment GOP days when I

7:49 was still very early getting involved in Republican politics. I remember a conservative think tank person who told me that one of the reasons why immigration was really good is that if you had enough diversity in a country, people would mistrust each other and they wouldn't join labor unions. Okay? So when I see a lot of left-wing people who theoretically support organized labor saying we need to flood the country with a limitless number of immigrants, they're unwilling to set any limitations on it. My response to that is you are destroying the very social trust on which American freedom and prosperity was built and that is really important to me. So the honest answer to your question,

8:35 what is the exact number of immigrants America should accept in the future? Right now the answer is far less than we've been accepting. We have got to become a common community again and you can't do that when you have such high numbers of immigration which is one of the reasons why we have the immigration policy we do. Thank you. Join our global community of English learners absolutely free. Download video transcripts, listen offline, start our beginner course, and join live classes with certified teachers. Access over 1,000 resources to improve your English faster. Everything's in one place. community.englishes.ca. Let's speak English together.

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