A Quick Guide to Big Finish Classic Who: Flip Jackson (Ramone)

0:00 [Music] don't [Music] know Treasures of [Music] History all works [Music] Dre hello and welcome to the quick guide to Big finish classic Who flip Jackson

0:48 Ramone in case you missed the earlier videos I'm going by companions because for most classic Who releases big finished didn't have serieses the stories tend to jump around each doctor's timeline and as far as I can tell there's no official authoritative agreed upon timeline for Adventures so separate them out by companion hopefully it'll make things easier for everyone and make it harder for me to miss any stories Flippa was played by Lisa Greenwood and first up Flip's not a real name it's Philippa her parents really wanted a boy so called her philli for short then they had a boy and they called him Phillip so she decided to go by flap now in most things this kind of backstory would cause some kind of drama or have some kind of consequences to her character but here it's just a barely mentioned background info so background

1:33 I can't even remember what story it came up in flip was the six doctor's third big finish created companion and one of my favorites which is kind of unexpected considering flip is basically Rose from new who she was an 18-year-old sharp assistant from London who craved excitement wasn't knowledgeable had strong feelings on right and wrong could be stupidly Brave and was bored with her usual routine of work seeing her boyfriend and going at clang she was Rose but at the same time there wasn't anything resembling a hint of romance between her and the doctor she wasn't terrible if she met another companion and she wasn't special in that new whoo kind of way where the companion who's meant to be regular person is also somehow the equal of an ancient alien with powers and stuff you know all the things I tend to complain about but as

2:19 Shakespeare didn't say a rose by any other name would be much less annoying if it was written differently and she wasn't meant to be companion at all if she had they probably wouldn't have made quite so similar to Rose she was supposed to be a minor supporting character in the crimes of Thomas Brar one of the last releast evand stories but the production staff were so impressed with Lisa gmo's performance that they almost instantly started working on plans to bring her back sorry you're the doctor now the original and best Hey where's Miss SM I mean the locus Gone Gone to Bath in bile for all I care the old lady can wait we need to get out of here I recommend caution The Hive ship may appear deser dirted but come on it the Swarm must be on their way to Earth already what's that okay

3:05 don't look at me it's not mine it's not mine my ringtone is poke Face by Lady Gaga sorry I think it's mine and it was quite a coup around the same time that flip began her time as a companion Lisa Greenwood was starring in a cold war Espionage show called the hour with one Peter Capal day now Greenwood played flip regularly from her debut up until 2020 when she came down hard with Co and has been battling long Co ever since sense and all I can do is wish her speedy recovery even if she never returns to the role of flap I'll be covering Flip's debut in an upcoming video about six's other companions so I'm going to start with Flip's first appearance as a regular companion the curse of Davos originally called the waterl of the DX which is a far better title the name was changed when there

3:51 was a legal issue involving using D's image it was the first davra story in a long time and they wanted fans to know he was in ad you see the legal issue didn't affect the use of the character or his name so they renamed it the curse of Davos and then they ended up sneakily evoking Davos in the cover anyway but maybe it was all setled at that point I don't know andway hilariously both curse of Davos and waterl the AL revealed two completely different plot tsts they really should have kept going with his approach to titles for the rest of a run the return of flip oh [ __ ] someone important gets shot that kid's an insect s in the Zen of hating austerity politics flip a second Story featuring a man giving birth and she's already dead dude I can't come up with a more

4:36 spoilery title than Vortex ice cortex fire you just got to listen to the story to get it and I flip in the doctor and meet up again through huge coincidence the doctor had an altercation with the Del in a spaceship and escaped an escape pod Landing almost literally in front of her while she's aching for adventure what a stroke of luck so if you don't want to do this what do you want it though I don't know I just wish something interesting would happen to me for once oh my God what the hell was that a flying saucer flies overhead and you ask what that was I think it was in trouble it looked like it was on fire and arrest where did it go what is it some sort of coffin it's not a coffin you Muppet it's an Escape capture what you mean it came

5:22 out of that Flying Saucer well du and it hasn't got any lights on it so nobody would have seen it on the way down are you sure about this what are you scared no I'm just thinking there might be an alien in there well then you better make sure you're ready to take a photo of it hadn't you whoa no no you cannot do this to me oh my God I don't believe it what Jared it's the doctor no way the same guy we met last year small Universe help me you must help me Hest ly it is ridiculously cheap but kind of necessary because there's a lot going on here you see Davos has created mind swapping technology and plans to use it to

6:08 conquer the Earth the 19th century to create a human race amenable to the delic way of life he then plans on copying Napoleon's tactically brilliant mind to add it to the delic battle computers now Napoleon was a great General but I'm not sure it'd be the best one to come up with tactics for three-dimensional or even four-dimensional battlefields maybe they should have found someone who's at least used to considering aircraft and his tactics the story claims that Napoleon's defeat is a pivotal turning point in human history that if he wins there he'll go on conquering and remake Humanity in His image had he defeated the British and Prussian armies at watero Napoleon would have taken the first step towards total dominance in Europe within a century the globe would have been under the control of the

6:54 French Empire a regime of absolute autocracy but also of great scientific progress at last the human race could achieve its potential transformed from an enemy into a potential ally of the DS but honestly I don't buy it Napoleon wasn't Invincible he was defeated before and frankly Europe under Napoleon was often Freer and more equal than it was beforehand and not only all that but the doctor and Davos already swapped Minds before the story began so the doctor that flip teams up with is actually Davos and hilariously that means Colin Baker isn't just the sixth actor to play

7:40 the doctor but also the sixth actor to play Davos so you believe me at last you are dous do you wish to punish us you failed to recognize your own Emperor you imprisoned me you hum humiliated me I am not inclined to forgiveness what is your command you the Dal that brought me here self-destruct I obey and as for you Supreme DC increase

8:27 neural Electro stimulation by a factor of 10 for 5 seconds I oby that was only four do it again anyway Davos as the doctor is working on his plans and trying not to be killed by the Dix who have been ordered by the doctor as Davos to bring him back alive the doctor as Davos is dead desperately trying to run a tight rope between being Davos enough that the DS w't suspect him and trying to [ __ ] up their plans I seriously considered not spoiling the Mind swap twist but honestly when I listened to the story I worked it out really quickly and I

9:12 assume my audience is just as clever I mean listen to these clips and tell me that it's not really obvious that something's up we don't know why he's here we don't really know anything about him at all I know he's doctor that's good enough for me the girl is correct you must get me away from here before I'm discovered by the authorities doctor they killed all the hostages they killed them all I know Philippa I did everything I could it's all right doctor I know it wasn't your fault driver driver stop this vehicle you uh do it like this half a mile you say it will not take us long we have to get there before they find this my phone you're leaving it behind so long as the device remains on this vehicle the DX will assume we

9:59 are as well but isn't that putting the people on this bus in danger my dear everyone on this planet is in danger Jared doctor we blushed Jared what we'll have to go back for him no there is no time he will have to look after himself what do you mean there's no time it is almost Dawn and then it will be too late if you do not surrender immediately we will begin Exterminating them do we're going to have to give ourselves up why so they can exterminate us too but if you don't they're going to kill all those people they are going to die whatever we do you offer us your cooperation the emperor knows me he

10:46 knows that I will do anything to prevent one of my associates being killed so all you have to do is threaten her life and I will have no choice but to obey oh thanks I think this story is very well regarded I thought it was fine but nothing too special i s of Terry Malloy and Colin Baker playing each other and the doctor and Davos trying to keep their true identity secret while working their plans to defeat the other I am glad they did this plot with six though because the Malloy Davos really has an extra spark with old 6 a very impressive piece of work if you don't mind me saying lots of intriguing possibilities leave it alone doctor you do not know what are doing well we'll see about that

11:32 now you place one of these transfer arrays on your head and the other on the head of the person you wish to swap mines with doctor if you intend to threaten me threaten you if I were you Davos I'd start getting ready to run do you cannot do this to me you cannot a little late for that Davos oh and a word of warning I wouldn't try to exchange our minds back I made a tiny alteration to the circuit and I'm afraid you don't have time to repair it why have you done this to me I could tell you but I'm sure that

12:19 knowledge will uh not prevent your death the DX will have discovered my diversion by now in a few moments they'll be gliding into through that door if they exterminate me you will never be able to return to your body to defeat you Davos that is a price worth paying Malloy and Baker really are a great double act which bleeds into their non Who stuff because they've recently been playing Sherlock Holmes and do Watson on stage and there's fli ignoring the rose stuff she's a bit like a modern workingclass Leela unknowledgeable but resourceful and brave she might get captured by Napoleon who's demanding to know about his future and all she know knows is the ABA song waterl but she's damn Fearless while she does that I know you're from another time but how could

13:06 you know that oh it was not difficult to guess your clothes your Manner and besides your arrival was not unexpected no you haven't answered my question how am I regarded in the future well I didn't really do history but you introduced the metric system I do know that that was good and that is all uh nothing else not really no sorry let me be more precise what do you know of watero the battle of watero yes um well I know that at watero Napoleon did surrender and who told you that may ask ABA ABA they made a song about it about you coming second well I can assure you

13:53 my dear I have no intention of surrendering this really is three one or two-part plots that that just kind of flow into each other the Dal attack London the doct and davra swap mines the waterl of the D but it mostly works though there's a bit where six seems convinced that flip will cease to exist if her future is averted while they're there when we saw this exact thing play out in pyramids of Mars with Sarah Jane and she was fine because if suek isn't stopped he'll destroy the world but he didn't did he I mean we know the world didn't end in 1911 do we 1980 Sarah if you want to get off you see the doctor and Sarah leave suek to do his thing in the 20s because she's sure the world to be fine because the world wasn't destroyed in the 20s so the

14:39 doctor gives her a harsh lesson in time travel logic and takes her to her present destroyed by suek because he didn't stop in the TW but to be fair she was in the Tardis so maybe that protected her anyway one part of this I did love was the possibly accidental Echoes of the story Rose not just the person listless teenage girl for adventure her place of work blown up boyfriend replaced by an evil double and boyfriend much more reluctant to go on adventure but even ends with flip leaving her boyfriend and running off to the doctor to go traveling overall this is recommended but not really essential unless you want to know a flip ended up in the Tardis but it's fine and kind of interesting if you'd like to know what it be like if big finish of a remid in Yoo story flip next turns up in the fourth wall which is the first

15:25 Masterpiece of a run on paper it's nothing too original that thanks to some space weirdness flip ends up trapped inside a TV show while the doctor's in the studio trying to save her it's not a regular TV show it's a space TV show called laser you can stop it now I know what's going on what's going on it's pretty obvious dramatic music techno Babble the way you couldn't hit the hero from Point Blank Range I don't you're fake fictional do not try my patience girl or what you'll shoot me I mean how C shell was that no no is that blood is that my blood I should make you suffer but I do not have the time to waste on Vermin like you so I shall put you out of my misery as quickly as I can kill

16:12 shot to the head no please I'm sorry I just I made a mistake [Music] I the lead is the heroic Jack laser who's kind of like an invincible Flash Gordon hello boys you missed me okay this is strange that I presume is our leading man yes but why aren't they shooting him he's the hero they can't kill the hero well that one's certainly going to make an attempt except it would appear guns are useless against someone who can kick quite high no naughty

17:00 naughty and that's enough from you so they're totally indestructible in all circumstances unless they're hit in the face by that gentleman are you two all right sorry I wasn't here earlier traffic was a pain looks like it then I think we should make his acquaintance thank you for your assistance Mr laser Jack laser of course you are he's good but he really should a reboot of the fictional Action Hero the carcass from the Mind robber the carcass you are my prisoners it's the carcass what you will come out and put your hands above your head you know he's fictional too OB on fire anyway laser eventually intersects

17:47 with the real world and the characters run a mock think Last Action Hero the league of gentleman movie and many many others like I said it's not original but it is done fantastically from the wring the scene where the villain of the show confronts his creator is just magnificent death isn't entertainment your death is very personally you killed my wife to make me evil how could I not take it personally stop you're joking me am I am I really I hadn't noticed please I you have responsibility to those you create if you give us life you must honor that life you must not hurt us for no reason what sort of sick

18:33 mind creates only to give pain to torture his children for the entertainment of others you're not real if I'm not real who's throttling you to the self-awareness oozing from everything there's even a number of Doctor Who Illusions in the show the sound design is particularly good in the show it's UNS subtle it even literally warns the characters about what's going to happen happen YouTube run I can't believe he fell for that for a world conquering dictator he really isn't all that bright and still the music of course there's always music and moments like this dramatic ones this is beginning to make a crazy sort of

19:19 sense I know it's say in the real world it's just ominous soundscapes what is that what has happened who are you you people where am I you dare to kidnap the Invincible Lord Cran and his warmongers what's going on security Protocols are down they can hear us they can see us answer me doctor they can leave the program they can leave the program I shall kill you all for this I shall kill you all warmongers destroy them the villain Lord Kon is simply fantastic Z motiveless evil because the TV show didn't give him much depth but with enough there to realize what he is

20:04 and embrace it I was created for one purpose and one purpose alone to kill every last living being in the cosmos without conscience without remorse without motive you want that too do you not brother yes yes it is all I desire of course it is what else can can we do we have no choice it is how we are made we must do what we must do exactly and we know what it is we must do destroy everyone and everything in the entire universe for no good reason at all hell you could view him as a riff in the dial what does he want to kill everyone who's not him why because he's evil and what

20:53 do the dialects do shortly after meeting their creator obey me we obey no one [Music] exterminate what sort of sick mind creates only to give pain to torture his children for the entertainment of others not real if I'm not real who's throttling you of Mercy Mercy if you wanted Mercy you should have written me more three dimension Cron's played by Martin Hudson who's not at a giant career and that is a shame the guy is [ __ ] amazing the ending

21:40 how they defeat the villain is one of the most demanded things in the show's entire history but it works perfectly with the world and scenario set up and I'm not going to spoil it but it involves the doctor acting terribly and who are you disturbing my off duty Rel relaxation in Laser's previously unmentioned meditation room ah I'm just the delivery boy well that's the pepperoni Brothers dealt with they're recording I believe you ordered this on the internet a device where with one press of this button within a radius of five light years ah yes it will be most useful in

22:25 the event of me um ever meeting anyone like that that was terrible bad acting awful script won't win any awards but it'll serve its function slight tangent but I love the stuff of six and flip early in the story where they're trying to watch some Cricket on the SpaceTime visualizer it's basically a Time Space TV that allows you to listen or watch anything anyway in Ah that's a shame there not quite what is this some sort of Telly bit overdesigned is isn't it it's far more than a mere television this is a time space visualizer F me black and white is that all you can

23:11 say this is incredibly advanced technology centuries ahead of your time I offer you eternity and you complain it's not in color it's always in black and white though because it only appeared in the first years of the TV show like when one show off a beetles show in the gettysburger [Music] dreass oh Barbara now you squashed my favorite beetles fun fact apparently the Beatles wanted to record a special clip for this made up as old men with beards so they'd be from the future but that fell through so some archive footage was used instead and6 is just as big a

23:56 cricket fun as five but since since five made a point of visiting all the great games if there can be such a thing as a great cricket game six has to watch the time Space TV because the last thing he wants to do is run into five my last Incarnation I was never happy with that one it'll be awkward at best the fourth wall also introduces the poran basically they're trying to be a feared Warrior Race like the Saran but they're terrible at it for instance when they invade a planet they cause damage primarily by accident so the poran try to conquer planets but they're what just not good at it oh notoriously sir they're quite a joke in the galactic Community they invade worlds that are about to be destroyed in supern noi worlds that are

24:44 actually carnivorous worlds that just happen to be called Scaro or they take the wrong equipment accidentally blow up their entire Invasion Fleet get sucked into a black hole before they can arrive whatever it is they always lose they've wiped out nearly their entire species with one hairbrain scheme for Galactic domination or another whenever I've encountered them before I've taken all manner of risks to prevent their imminent Extinction but surely that's their problem not ours whatever they're planning and they are planning something I can promise you that whatever it is they've messed it up that's what they do and you don't want to be within a million miles of one of their failures when it happens honestly I sort of Veer

25:30 between thinking that they're a bit of Douglas Adams genius and a bit too ridiculous we meet again oh not now CAD sir all all right all right which one are you don't he recognize me I've met several of your species in my time you're walking pigs in silver body stockings and cloaks and whilst your generic appearance is undeniable distinctive individually you are quite hard to tell apart you're saying we all look the same it's a bit racist well I am the poran known in our mother tongue as deathbringer Slayer of all destroyer of

26:16 worlds ah which in English is pronounced chimbly I believe so yes I suspect it loses some dramatic impact in Translation anyway this was scripted by John Dorney one of later big finishes most reliable writers who'd later revisit a similar idea with the 10th doctor in the infamy of the zaros and it gets my highest recommendation next up is w andile a sequel to the Aran space which introduced the WAN classic who's take on the xenomorph though a few years before alien they're insects and when reproducing they'll use your body and mind imagine Ripley facing off against the xenomorph with all of kan's knowledge memories and voice that's the weon you're beaten the ark is of no

27:01 value to you without its humans so why don't you just leave us in peace humans require two Mass pounds of oxygen a day to stay alive doctor we Wen can live for years without fresh oxygen previously they were eating people in a space station but now it's decades later and they're all Frozen in Scotland this is just after the time of the great Exodus from Earth see the Ark in space which introduced the Wen or the the Beast below which didn't if you want to know what was going on before that we follow a fractured family snowed in and on the edge of collapse trying to survive against something they can't really understand well the real monster is one of them it's Dr HUD do a shining at least for the first hour or so then it becomes more like aliens and finally

27:48 kind of crap the doctor pulls some frankly insane equal respect for all ice staff judging the aoral creatures that choose to feed in the body IES and minds of sensient beings as equal to their victims and getting pissy when humans try to wipe them out in self-defense there are now power cables running into the lock the next time we or anyone uses that transmat anyone anything in the water will be electrocuted and killed hasn't there been enough killing yes by Wen Veronica I can't let you do this what he's right Mom electrifying the lock it's murder it's wrong I would have said you'd understand when you're a mother but you're not going to be are you nobody is and what about the Wen

28:33 mothers oh it's hardly the same they're not fighting for survival but they are they have been all these years you saw the husks the pupe we're and eggs gestate within living creatures so where do you think they found any on a frozen lock nowhere or they wouldn't have eaten the nervous City crew they wouldn't be looking to eat us now their eggs were planted back in their own Mother's women mothers giving up their lives going through the Raging Agony of being eaten from within just to give their children a chance what about my children I'm not a mother but I'm not a child anymore either show us the right cable everybody needs to grow up a little today Veronica and yes I mean choose

29:20 they can Fe the non sensient creatures but they really want to eat people will you call the rest of the back here you could form a colony why make a colony when we can have a planet I own Earth doctor it will remain the ween breathing ground the ween threat is over it will never be over I'm beaming you out to the lock and then I am freezing it again it'll be down to nerva City to decide what to do with you and up to you how you negotiate peace what possible reason can there be for peace well I beamed out the Wen I've not not beamed out the eggs they've laid both sides will have to talk it's like trying to force a piece between the dedicated clientele of a

30:06 steakhouse and some cow Freedom Fighters we had to serve the doctor so right we came back 20 years later and found that the word and had eaten the entire human race and themselves their eggs were planted back in their own mothers at least is such a bizarre bit IMM morality that it's technically kind of alien and therefore kind of darkish and until it collapses at the end this is mostly a really great story really well written really tense great soundscapes and toasty one of the family really should have become a companion she's just really wholesome and adorably bad at stuff like acting toasty turn up the heater in your coat it's cold oh it's just bracing and you're not cold are you toasty I'm toasty fine this is porridge

30:54 porridge porridge it's a kind of joke I take it you you didn't bring it with you from nervous City then they find it on the forest floor all my life they've been going on about it forage porridge it's supposed to be delicious hey I wouldn't tuck in just yet if I were you young lady remarkable girl I'll go and get the transmat ready look at her girl she must be having so much fun I do hope so Roger toasty come in please can't talk mom I'm helping dad toasty has flip transmed back no and I'm on the pad I'd have seen her but it's just a little hard to keep us together if we're going to die you too flip you're going back to the Tardis oh it's fine you're not getting rid of

31:39 me you're very TIY to your dad he's not my dad transmat right now doctor that thing is right behind us and Mom oh what's going on what are you doing oh toasty my sweet sweet child get it off what's the matter with him everybody let her hug you toasty you don't know what she's been through you sure you're okay without your coat oh yes Dad says I have hot blood that's why he calls me toasty unusual name yeah doctor I'm pretty sure something went wrong in scripting toasty is meant to be 18 or so but she seems to be scripted and performed about half that age part of me is wondering if they just messed up and gave the wrong age and I one of the

32:24 minor characters is a guy called shear and he's play by Dan sty AKA stra with a South African accent can you see me yes of course I can oh nice space soup I see what toasty means about those you know toasty do you ah man let's start from the top I'm Shia JN you're in the medical Bay at nerva city council building this is a reference to the Saran experiment which depicted another group who escaped the Earth the galac with South African accents you know what makes me half believe him it's such a crazy story that's what you mean if he was making it up he'd think of something better check never this is because the writer Bob Baker thought the generic English accent might evolve into

33:10 something like South African because well the vared influences the accent has andway there sheer toasty and toasty's brother is called iron I really like the names they're fairly good representation of how they change over the years and there's been a lot of years between now and then one thing this kind of R's home is that flip is a danger Seeker but not in an addicted kind of way like claraa more like she's a bit of a dumbass Who falls into it out of excitement so where's this micrite it's back here where's the rest of it it is smaller than I remember can I fly it no watch the door I'm glad to say the metal frame looks more solid than I thought and the engine's heavy enough

33:56 flip you don't have to do this I think we both know I do and besides Roger's giv me a crash course yes not a happy chice words and anyway this is kind of why I came with you doctor to do exciting things no put just sitting around freezing when you could be out there freezing flip I can't make my mind out whether you're one of the bravest girls I've ever met or simply fool hearted I'll keep you guessing then shall I making a relationship with six pretty much a student in know constantly exasperated teacher F I'm not sure you understand how dangerous this is I've already died once what could be worse now if I don't get going I'll be shivering too much to steer straight flip if I could fly this I'll be careful

34:43 I much prefer flips danger seeking to claras she does dangerous stuff the doctor tells her she's a dumbass and then she agrees she has self awareness just not the brains truly use that fun fact about this this is one of the very few big funished stories with no Tardis scenes late classic who began to darken and then face Tardis scenes out because the set was falling apart and they didn't have the budget to fix that big finish on the other hand just likes to do stuff differently every so often like have the doctor and flip randomly teleport into the story who's transmitting in now it's like it's like being punched punched by the ice

35:28 quite nippy that's a surprise ah there you are flip here take my coat oh coat Co coat oh it's heated I love this coat I'll never take it off you got two what about heated trousers it's not that cold you know one second ago I was in nervous city where the weather is 20° he says stand over there out of the way and there turns out to be a transmat to here the icy Ice Caves of Iceland I think it's more likely Scotland anyway this was good Until the End andway next is antidote to Oblivion and it was written by classic Who writer Philip Martin who brings back his most popular creation s the fangi before the fangi San 7 has brought your company great wealth you have miscalculated events for the sake

36:14 of a few miserable extra credits you may have lost the source of all our wealth and power listen to me I have plans to take charge of this planet of firus this is a sequel both the Martin TV story mind warp and his lost story mission to Magnus it's future Earth and generations before the UK had privatized the government and they drug the people into complacency but the mentors s species the frangy before the frangi have a financial stake in the UK or conop as it's now called and demand strict austerity and when that's not profitable enough the deaths of 90% of the population VI a plague how can this be contemplated Mr President not every last member of the Gen poop would perish Crystal I estimate

37:01 45% 45 would survive the initial outbreaks there would be a second wave of course to mop up that M again conc Coria can tolerate a rump 10% of especially fit individuals for unskilled labor naturally the villains need to guarantee immunity for the ruling class so they' been doing experiments on time Lords to try and recreate their healing abilities this results in anzor that doctor's childhood bully transforming into a pink potato with eyes on stocks who can only say fiddle Stacks see for yourselves FID sticks FID sticks ah how the LIF him out Cordelia LIF him out

37:46 there that is anzel that pink potato with his eyes on sticks that's just rank how did this happen a malfunction of the chromosomes whilst he was inside the isolation chamber it is unlikely to occur again fortunate for you doctor that the mistake was made on Anor since you are the next in line to enter cordelia's chamber of horror and way then s's Chief scientist wants revenge on the doctor she's the daughter of kroer the mad scientist from mind warp and she hopes to do the same or Worse to the doctrine flap dun dun dun anzor first appeared a mission to Magnus an unmade story from the unmade series 23 that was replaced by trial of a Time

38:31 Lord it was later adapted by big finish as one of the original lost stories a series of never made TV stories adapted as closely as possible to the original script and style of the time mission to Magnus was a mid 80s who so it was bad RI on feminism sexism full in conflict between the sex ass it's only interesting because big finish also adapted prison in space 60s who unmade from the same ideas and it manages to be the more offensive of the two let that sink in mission to Magus is worse than the 60s version of the same idea and we I'll get to mission to Magnus when I talk about Perry mission to Magnus mind warp and antidote to Oblivion were all scripted by Philip Martin and it's safe to say they evolved as a writer over the

39:17 decades first up I like to the saiz some Modern capitalist horror rather than just sticking to generic ad sty capitalism because ad sty capitalism sadly became the norm so going after it feels a little unfocused in this day and age the big Target here is austerity this was written not long after the UK government chose to react to the global financial crash by shredding government services and you can tell that Philip Martin isn't a fan I must say the meeting went well your ideas seemed reasonably well received by the rest of the board apart from that woman person Crystal yes crystal is something of a liberal recidivist she is our voice voice of conscience not to be taken account of most wise most wise but your

40:02 main economic problem remains too many mouths to feed too many unearned home Comforts their benefit payments are the reason I have been sent here to find a radical solution to resolve your dilemma at least civil unrest is not a factor we need concern ourselves with thank the great m for that he also might have been thinking of Greece because s's organization is a clear riff in the IMF who impos the same stuff on Greece in the years after the crash all the Philip Martin Staples are here satire sill anti- capitalism Grizzly events body horror and general UNS subtleness enough of your sniveling sill I must have

40:47 refinancing do you wish for the population of conia to rise up against us the CR nobody wants that Mr President that green slug of an alien as good as patted our heads congratulated us for thinking only of ourselves who is he what is he s is a mentor an agent of the umf he advises the president on all things Financial then as soon as sufficient amount of vaccines are available to protect the executive pass the public downsizing down can begin and how is this downsizing to be

41:34 done Mr President initially by introduction of cleansing elements into the public water supply together with extensive ratification within the underground system my fellow citizens thank you for listening to your president I wish you good night and remember concorp cares and because Martin is an actual 8s who writer this is one of the closest things we have to an all new 1980s who story for better because it is better the mid 80s TV who and worse because six and flip are written like TV6 and Perry especially at the start of the story with her and the doctor having a fight and yelling at each

42:22 other what is it what's the matter well it's just am I to take it Miss Jackson that you are bored Tranquility is not exactly my scene doctor oh oh well what would be more your scene flip AR you jumping off the Colossus of Roads off-roading through the Hanging Gardens of Babylon free diving to the ruins of Atlantis you're not planning on sleeping through this racket it'll stop soon distress signals usually do distress did you say distress signal doctor what is going on don't mind my hammock I'm not sure if this was originally going to be a Perry story or Martin just a trouble with a very

43:07 different relationship between these two and only a couple of things I noticed that aren't great this story involves a creepy voice sent virus attempting to take flip over and steal her identity [Music] pH who's that who's there well there's no one else flip only you and I [Music] Philip do not be alarmed my name is Phil I'm your friend relax what a lovely young body you have

43:55 it was an interesting plot 5 years earlier with Charlie oh what what's happening oh what's going on Ma are you doing this to me oh Charlie it's nearly time for you to go you mean it's so perfect that's why I love you Charlotte paard because I am you now mistress n another man toric a cameo here but she's not played by Sophie aldad I do hope my part in this Triumph will not be forgotten when you make your report the downfall of Concord is most

44:40 satisfactory to us when listening to this I was genuinely a little put out by that then I realized the fan film where Sophie aldred played now came out literally years after this so I got over at neither actor Nabil Shaban who plays Sill or Philip Martin are interviewed in the making of documentary The Big guas Star returned to the role from the TV show and a classic Who writer working for big finish is serious business and yet nothing they spent the whole time talking to Lisa Greenwood which is nice she is awesome but this is very unusual good old flip Lisa Greenwood she's uh an Easter girl who's thrown in these situations with the doctor and uh don't know what's going on after the time bless her she's lovely I never think

45:27 that they're going to ask me to come back every time I finish so it's it's a great it's great fun it's a great opportunity and I love being here everyone's really sweet and kind so yeah I love it I have no idea what this is but I can guess Nabil Shaban is a notable disability rights activist and Philip Martin just WR a big finish story lambasting the British government's policy of austerity that targeted the vulnerable like the dis saal frankly I think big finish were worried about what they had to say about the story and what inspired at lastly this is a complete tangent and it has nothing to do with his story in particular but what the [ __ ] it's really weird that Patrick rart who played the Mind scientist kroer in mind warp never reappeared in who he's the perfect age and level of notability to have turned up with McCoy or in yo or

46:13 in big finish and he's just fantastic I mean who wouldn't want this guy in Doctor Who again this is what I wanted to achieve from the very beginning I have transferred only the contents of his mind into the brain of the woman and what is the earth woman's mind gone mentally she no longer exists welcome to your new body I wish you could have found a more attractive one and he's just fantastic anyway there is much to like here like I at contemporary politics and the return of sill who's also quite a hood may I keep Anor as a pet he is of no further use to me thank you oh oh look the way his eyes sto W

47:01 about just like SW the F sticks F sticks and that it's basically a good midi is call Baker story but at the same time it's not quite up to the same level of some of Flip's other stories it's fine it's just not great the BR of Aris was written by Andrew Smith technically one of the longest running Doctor Who writers he just didn't do much of it before working for big FES he started out with full circle the 1980 Tom Baker story that introduced Adra then shortly afterwards he became a police officer before returning to write for big finish some decades later Smith was 17 when he wrote full circle one of classic Who strengths over new is that they had a very non- insular attitude to writers

47:47 anyone could script a story send it in and Get It produced if it was deemed good enough NE who only barely let Rob sheerman write the best episode of series series one and he'd previously written arguably the best dialect story of all time and I'm not even trying to make a snarky comment saying that the invention of adri shows that it's a bad thing that anyone could write for classic Who because frankly adri gets a bit of a bad rap he's mostly tolerable with four plus Smith wrote The Star man possibly ad's best story andway The Brute of arys is about a somewhat aoral sensient Moon called Aras with a br of goblin like children that protects jealously when never find out exactly what they look like but I figure they're Pokémon the Colin Baker thinks they look like fairies there are some wonderful Creations as the drache who uh I picture

48:36 as benign little pixies that when they open their mouths have got fangs so they're benign little Pixies with um with Attitude naturally The Brood want to rebel leave their parent and explore the universe and in a possibly accidental bit of hilarity the leader of the rebellious brood sounds like Johnny Rotten from the sax pistols we have often discussed how we are tired of being tied to the parent of being forbidden even to talk of other worlds well I tell you that soon we will find a way to leave I know what I think and that's all that counts to me I don't try and impress anybody but myself whether the parent likes it or not we will go we will explore and we

49:23 will make a new life where it is we who make the decisions for ourselves I know what I want what do you want freedom I think they call it the hippies used to call it that aneris is orbiting a planet with a peaceful society that The Brood like to take the frustrations out on and when the Tardis Ventures Too Close The Brood invade it and when they can't steal the ship the kidnap flip and take her back home with THB we have to leave if we can't have your ship we'll have something else you value you L van bring the girl no no what are you doing don't me little a vacuum cloak you'll need that doctor put her

50:11 down let her go it has left you too weak to stop us oh no no do it throw it out and to make things even more complic Lo the doctor rescues a woman from nearby space she doesn't know who she is but she needs to get to AAS I'm scared I can't remember anything anything nothing at all I don't know who I am I don't know my full name I I don't know what I was doing on a space yacht I don't know where I come from I remember nothing in fact I'm not sure it's a good idea for you to come Sarah Sarah that Moon up there there that

50:56 creature there's something something tugging at my memory a memory of Aris I don't know but I'm going with you doctor I have the strongest feeling that I'll find some answers up there she's played with Nicolas Shan who not only played clar's mom on TV but went to school with Jen Lis colan I quite like this one it's not special but it's a solid bit of who very old fashion but with a lot of Shades of Gray flip doesn't have much to do but be her usual Brave and dumbass s and fail at resisting both The Brood and ays I didn't mean for that to sound rapy but the brood take flip inside arys who tends to keep her trapped covered in all kinds of weird fluids and stuff inside it I'm think here what are you doing you should not struggle you cannot fight it

51:43 you are being dra down into me I'm not going to be your dinner you have more useful than food it will be painless if you do not resist I Can't Get Grip no look you don't need to do this no regretfully the connotations write themselves one thing you notice when listening to flip stories is her uncanny ability to grasp or know about stuff based on unorthodox means like in the curse of Davos where she knew about the Battle of water L thanks to an ABA song and in this she gets her mind around some advanced technology by comparing it to a wireless video game controller excellent then we move to another random point and take a further reading by comparing the two sets of ler we can assess the accuracy or otherwise of the TARDIS Chronos

52:30 speciaal placement kind of like when you first set up a wireless controller for a games console when you first set up a yes no doubt she's clearly intelligent underneath it all but unfortunately she doesn't often get the chance to show at interestingly for a sensient moon called Aris also the name of a Greek goddess and a dwarf planet in our solar system a ancient moona gives birth to it own children and jealously protects them ays is portrayed as a man you know the spider or Worse will reae but still you consider running which would be fool Hardy stop mucking around in my head you have decided not to run you harb the hope know the belief that a man will save you a special man the doctor why

53:18 are you like this why attack us why keep me prisoner I act to defend myself and my children and they are you are ungrateful and you would desert me no no we would not do that Smith thought it was interesting too he wrote it with a voice of female alad in mind solar winds have devastated it but I will reclaim it again but he liked the voice that they went with an actor called Brian Shelly who sadly hasn't had a a giant career and with the bir of Aris ends happily with few deaths because and I [ __ ] you not the doctor shares his memory with the moon a

54:04 generous gift the memories of a Time Lord gladly given for a purpose So Many Adventures you have had in your travels so many enemies but so many friends Sarah Jane and Roman Joe and Lea Anda and hello P yes the thought of p is strong in you there are more many more but Above All Above All Susan who ays experiences the doctor's memories it watches Doctor Who and instantly changes its ways said

54:49 go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine I believe I did and although I have sometimes selfishly wished it undone there's no doubt in my mind that it was the best thing for Susan thank you for those memories doctor which is just an inexplicable type of fan service but I like that scavenger was flips last appearance is a single companion in at least two different ways cuz when she comes back there's two of them and she's married scaver is a bit of a harder sci-fi tale

55:34 than usual with the TARDIS landing in the middle of a 2070s effort to clean up a space debris from over a 100 Years of satellites and stuff in orbat they're trying to avoid the castler syndrome castler syndrome is a theorized thing where there's so much stuff orbiting the planet that it'll be impossible to get rockets and stuff into space and once it starts it invariably gets worse because when when things in orbit hit each other they get shattered and now there's a debris field orbiting at high speeds and it gets bigger the more stuff it hits and there's a lot of stuff in orbit that could become part of the depri field and I also in the mix of scavenger an alien AI out to collect advanced technology and a guy is several hundred years old and is sure his girlfriend is inside scavenger which he is the guy and his girlfriend are SEL and an orch subjects

56:19 for legendary Indian romance from the 16th century history is supposed to be what happens to to other people what happened to other people I don't know what you call it when it's personal when your own life becomes Legend feels strange doesn't it I was royalty oh here we go I am the Crown Prince Salem I stopped aging the day she was taken and people say I'm full of it I am the Crown Prince I am 496 years old so Jessica take my job I've saved up enough for my pension the doctor rates that the guy can't be Seline because he knows the story's fiction because he once met the author but hilariously the author he met is selem he'd already recognize the doctor

57:05 even though he's regenerated a couple of times since they man I am not spinning some idle yard I have to disagree the story of the Crown Prince Salim and the slave girl anari is I'm afraid pure fiction ha I know because I once met its author oh many years ago a man named Abdul halim sharah although now I come to think of him and was he about my height at all oh of similar build well now you come to mention it I was Shar but you were not the well-traveled doctor I once met in the 17th century he was an entirely different person yes I would have been I could get the peer review certified right now I guess when you're a 400-year-old guy out to find a Space robot and when you find a magic dude

57:50 called the doctor and then you me another magic dude called the doctor Iam's ra Las becomes more of a brad knife back with the harder sci-fi stuff India and the UK are working together on the space cleaning project but it's a bit of an antagonistic relationship the closest thing to a real villain is Jessica Alaway a former tennis player who's just awful this is Melissa Fletcher newshub 9 talking to Jessica Alay who's been brought in as a sort of troubleshooter to fix the cleanup Space Project never fear the British are here suddenly the whole complex loses power and you arrive it doesn't take a genius what can I say I arrange a little par cut Salvage to go off course Britain saves the day it was all in the contract slim we loan you a

58:36 pitiful sum of money but should anything happen to go wrong then we take over we get the technology rights but nothing went wrong looks like it to me looks like it to the world security selem anyone I need minions you do doctor what have you done to scavenger lovely to talk to you Doctor but I want to watch this bye you're killing flip you don't really think she's still alive do you if it's all the same to you I'll just be on my way in my funny blue box security sir ma'am would rather you stayed ma'am insists at gunpoint ma'am I enjoy a good exchange

59:23 of opinions but if you're going to threaten me you thought that was a threat I was being nice this is a threat you're an asset doctor but you're unauthorized so far one has balanced the other but if you try to leave you will be shot seriously Jessica there is no need for all this more to the point there's no time beyond that Saleem is the head of the Indian part and has every right to be pissy about the UK's part of the project he literally experienced British colonialism no I mean this could be good for industry British industry I presume let's not fight over politics we're on the same side now Slim we worked together to save the Mandela crew that'll play great in the press and we work together to rescue

1:00:09 those astronauts in space too same thing the doctor did that but yes sure H we stood near him while he did it I didn't see a doctor I don't remember a doctor on the British payroll is he on the Indian team rewriting history you really are British through and through anyway I did like the primarily Indian flavor of the story but I'm kind of wondering whether the British space program was involved at all let alone being a senior and kind of paternalistic role I think it's pretty clear that in 2070 if India and the UK both the space programs then India is be the senior partner but I suppose this plays into the colonialism stuff the main guest are is Angelie mahender who played Ronnie in the serun adventures and less importantly was the queen of the ski Nicola tas's night of

1:00:55 Terror and she knocks out of the park forming a bit of a double act with flap okay if we can't get to this secure moding time is there somewhere else somewhere without a great big window there it is look at that where where is my camera that is one ugly spaceship it's opening up it can't swallow the station can it oh no chance well that's something but it can take a big bite out of our module got it filming 10 minutes oxygen left you on 16 or 17 plenty of time jty I don't see anyone else voting around out here we saved some people on the Mandela you and me what else are we here for is not that the most for one meeting new people um Alo creating something worthwhile you know and I I

1:01:41 was going to be a film producer family forced me into science I had all my life for the movies they said get a profession see the world yes family's never fun but I bet yours are proud of you you what yours they were all like why aren't you a boy and then they had one I left it's 2071 they might have even noticed by now and I wish mine had been bothered enough to say see the world flip doctor are you okay scorp showing multiple targets it's like you've exploded you haven't exploded have you feels like it her name's giotti and being a parent six insists in awkwardly pronouncing it right well flip removes the wi from convenience Pretend

1:02:27 We're not even here okay uh only you are supposed to be led oh definitely always they never tell me anything hi JY Cutler payload specialist flip and joty are safely aboard the Mandela scavengers quiet we have this moment right joty reach out for me what doctor doctor are you receiving me JY can you see her JY show me again I can't see what buttons you meant this story spends an awful lot of time tormenting flip which is great now I love flip but she's constantly doing dumb [ __ ] and only barely surviving like mouthing off to murderous stuff and not being killed for it except in the fourth wall when she was briefly she really needed some good

1:03:14 old-fashioned companion truma to ground her a bit and speaking of grounding this one ends in a cliffhanger as flip floating in space and running low in oxygen uses her thrusters to send herself towards the Earth in a desperate bid for survival the last we hear from her is her last recorded message in the doctor yelling impotently look thing is I can't hang around here waiting for you to find me I'm only going to run out of air or depressurize or something lucky for me I'm wearing the suit the bound Gartner with these sort of thrusters in the boots that's how it works you jump jump to Earth I'm guessing people don't usually jump from as high as this but but the jump are the same no no no

1:03:59 no no you're from the edge of space maybe not from actual space flip I know I know it's a bit of a risk and I don't blame you for telling me off and I promise I really promise that if I land safely I am never never ever no really never going to do anything as d as this again I'm going back to Fresh Goods back to M yeah back to Jared too I expect I can't think of anything else to say really all right I made up I'm doing this thrust is on okay turning myself around head first oh this is

1:04:45 scary I've got to let the camera go now so see you around doctor on the ground I hope all right here goes nothing India or bus F she survives of course because the dark tries to Tardis but it doesn't come up in this story after scavenger flip decides to head home and marry her boyfriend Jared Ramon and the doctor promises to be at the wedding he doesn't go not that you know any of this from this story though because it's only explained in passing in a Parry story and not the next Perry story breaking bubbles oh no that sets sometime right six's first series on TV it's the next Perry story after that the Widow's assassin which brings Perry back to the

1:05:30 Tardis after spending some time in Planet Brian blad where she was ceremoniously dumped during the trial of a Time Lord very ceremoniously CU it got married at least this version did Perry's timeline is a cluster [ __ ] just wait till I cover Perry and the pis gon Paradox wow and way the next time we'll see flip is Quicksilver where she forms the dream team with the doctor and Constance which will'll be covering in its own video video but because big finish hate releasing things in any order that makes sense the very next release after Quicksilver was Vortex ice cortex fire which is said sometime before scavenger wibbly wubbly timey Ry big finish treats release order like Steven mofet treats continuity half from amberd sometimes in reverse and as a

1:06:16 challenge for the audience in Vortex ize cortex fire is a double release of two two-part stories featuring The really quite clever vortex ice where our heroes investigate some weird readings deep in a cave meet it with some doomed cavers also after the readings and find themselves encased in ice like face to face with themselves encased in ice the plot is all about how they can't beat their fate they will end up trapped what is this some sort of joke no joke it's not just me look oh no that's me I'm sorry but that's me Frozen in that thing me as I am now I'm even wearing the same clothes

1:07:03 yes look at my hair it's all fluffy at the back do I really look like that but then I completely turns it on its head I don't want to go into details cuz the twists are a delight and it really pushes flip into a new area that few companions have ever had to deal with it's a sort of concept that Series 3 of new who Moffet would have killed to come up with most interesting cast member is sha Kapur who you might remember from the end of new whoo series 4 when she got killed with the dials or from dimensions in time where she wasn't killed by the dialects but reprised a ro from the standard much worse honestly I have a fan theory that dimensions in time was a dream and her role in Journey's End was her playing herself having been captured with the dials on the way from rehearsals for a play her character's name was simply scared woman

1:07:49 so it could be her here she plays sa choa the leader of the doomed Cav or won't go down without a fight whatever it is it can happen to you I'm not anyway Vortex sze is clever to the point of complicated and a Brisk listen in only two 25 minute Parts it has a fantastic twist that's amazingly well signposted if you Rel listen to it that's a sign of a good twist when they hide it in plain sight but you still miss it the first time but the other half isn't anywhere near as good in cortex fire the doctor brings flip to the planet fasten r for itting light shows in the sky there's a particularly amazing one do you soon and you thinks she'd enjoy it that star exploded one and a half days ago but we can still see

1:08:34 it yes because the light from it exploding hasn't got here yet but tonight it will as we sit in that arena energy from its death will bombard the ionosphere there'll be a globe spanning Aurora more dramatic than any festin ever seen and thanks to time travel we'll be the only ones expecting it unfortunately Fest and also was problems with citizens randomly exploding and turning evil are you hurt I'm just winded if you hadn't knocked me behind this sof been a far worse State not sure it will last much longer what is that thing used to be my partner

1:09:21 well I can see why you split up this she wasn't like this before she was normal and our heroes are blamed for that that's pretty usual the cortex the title is the computer Force thing that runs the place and as you can no doubt guess there's more to it than that this is an intensely visual story for an audio there's the light shows there's a high octane car chase roing and burning people destroying stuff it's a sort of story that knew who would try to put on screen when it's feeling ambitious it's not bad just kind of generic and much weaker than Vortex ice one good element is that it makes use of more hard sci-fi Concepts than most Doctor Who Stories the light show for instance is basically a Jaz up version of the Northern Lights apart from that it's pretty forgettable

1:10:08 except when it veers hard into weird technol of crafy and stuff we are beyond your comprehension try me you might be surprised we are not of your realm it is beneath us you're from another dimension in your pance yes you're engineering a planet-wide thought fueled by death this world will become a glyph of our will a sigal opening up a doorway to our freedom Airways that's it they're arranged like a sigle for one of the first forbidden texts what is a sigle a sort of magical symbol from a book I wish I'd never seen then we're all right aren't we Magic's

1:10:53 not real whether it works or not this vile urge still intends to kill billions one thing that both these stories have in common is the amazing cheapness of the audio design I mean listen to this a murderous cyberg octopus thing in Vortex ice the mine is sealed oh no seems the cyborg is still alive and between us and the TARDIS and oh dear it thinks I'm the one who trapped it here and now it wants me dead I'm sorry I don't remember trapping

1:11:40 you here you see it's in my future sounds like a TIE fighter made a generic monster sounds maybe a Zord same difference and this people burning up and going evil in cortex fire excessive electromagnetic background signal please keep away from [Music] me please no B don't worry wherever the problem is I can help what the heck all right maybe I exaggerated it sounds like the rest of the sound

1:12:26 effects in a Zord fighting Power Rangers I have no idea what happened here but it really damages the stories though I suppose it's cool that big finish eventually managed to get who's partial for glaring the awful special effects into audio form actually I just realized some of the monster sounds from Vortex SC were also used for the Gator babes in replicator seems the cyborg is still alive and between us and the TARDIS what the hell is that that's private wearing and she just killed Colonel sergeant and oh dear it thinks I'm the one who trapped it here and now it wants me dead hey

1:13:16 ugly my God what happened it's in the replicator what was that thing it's private wearing after sex I'm sorry I don't remember trapping you here you see it's in my future which just makes it even better anyway Vortex ice cortex fire is fine

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