AMD Zen 6 Event Confirms PS6 & AM5 Ryzen Performance (+ XBOX PC Backwards Compatibility)

0:08 And then it starts with our allnew Zen6 core. We have higher IPC, higher frequency, and that delivers up to 1.8 times more performance than Turin. That is one of the largest generational gains. I mean, we have been doing this for six generations, but this is one of the largest generational gains in the history of Epic. >> Yep. So, today AMD finally revealed their newest Zen architecture, Zen 6. And technically Zen 6 for Venice, the Epic variant. Yes, this thing is a massive 256 core, 2nmter monster that brings with it an impressive 1.8x uplift in performance over Zen 5 Epic. But what about if you are a gamer? Why should you

0:54 be excited? Well, here's why. AMD basically just told us overall what you should be expecting for all Zen 6 products. And for gamers, the implications truly are insane. For example, the top clocking as of today's announcement, Venice X, so the X3D epic chip hits 5.15 GHz despite having dozens of cores. And that is 23% faster than the previous top clocking X30 epic chip. Although that was just a Zen4 chip. So even if we assume hypothetically that there's like some clock speed increase there would have been from Zen 4 X3D to Zen 5 X3D on epic. Even if we account for that, we can say that it's possible that Zen 6 Ryzen X3D chips will clock

1:39 18% faster than Zen 5X3D. Deacto confirming X3D chips on AM5 next year. That should be well above six gigahertz despite the hundreds of megabytes of L3 cache they will have. Furthermore, as I showed at the start of this video, AMD also confirms a 30% increase in threads with Zen 5 to Zen 6 epic and yet a much larger 1.8x increase in performance. So if we divide 1.8 by 1.3, we get to 38.5% roughly an increase in performance per core. That is truly monstrous. And so if you then take that though and assume Zen 6 desktop will get a 10% IPC increase as I've leaked years ago that gets you to about 7.2 GHz clock speeds. But let's go

2:25 the other way. Let's assume that Zen 6 on desktop hits 7 GHz and mult and divide that out from the overall single core increase. It's about a 13% increase in IPC. Again, well within what I have leaked the IPC increase is supposed to be. Now, is this me confirming that Zen 6 on desktop's going to hit 7.2 GHz or higher and 13% IPC increase or higher? No, not both. In fact, I kind of directly said the opposite that you shouldn't expect both of the best outcomes of frequency and IPC to happen at the same time. You should expect, you know, maybe one of them to overperform, but not both. And overall, that just means a 7 GHzish uh clock speed for Zen 6 on desktop and a 10%ish increase in IPC. But either

3:11 way, what we saw today at AMD's advancing AI presentation is that Zen 6 will be as Lisa Sue said, one of the largest increases in performance per core in Ryzen or Epic and or Zen in general history. And that's something to get really excited for. And not just if you're a desktop gamer. What this means for PlayStation 6, by the way, is that if even if they're only going to have Zen 6C cores, that when you reverse engineer the math, that performance increase over Zen 5C, you can get up to what seems to me a 4.7 gigahertz clock for the PS6's CPU, which is still 30% faster than last gen. And then you add the 40 to 50% higher IPC of Zen 6 over

3:56 Zen 2, the lower latency Zen6 brings, and I think you're going to get to at least around a doubling of CPU performance. Now, it's on 3 nanometer, the PS's CPU instead of 2 nanometer. So, we can't be sure it'll hit the maximum, but even then, I think at least a doubling of CPU performance. Pie in the sky, maybe 3x. And that will make it easy for games, or at least the games that want to put effort into achieving this to hit 120 frames per second on that console. And uh yeah, now I want to get to the last few things I noticed about today's AMD presentation and actually briefly touch on the Xbox to PC backwards compatibility initiative they are doing right now at Microsoft. But first, an ad from a sponsor. This piece of content is brought to you by Salad. No, not that one. This one. Salad is a

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5:27 Remember, all you need is a 3060 or better. If you have something better, it can earn you hundreds a month. So, click the link in the description to support Morris Laws Dead for free and get started today. All right, so now let me get to the final few things that I think are worth noting from AMD's big, you know, AI advancing thing today. And the first thing is, yeah, I mean, they talk about AI basically the whole time. I don't have really a whole lot to say about any individual numbers except a couple of things. Number one, Lisa Sue directly just starts saying, especially early in the show, she like asks people to start clapping for big numbers. She's like, "Isn't that a big number? Didn't we have a big number? Please clap for the biggest number. And I just find that again a sign that we are around the peak

6:14 of some bubble here. I could be wrong. I'm not suggesting it can't go on another year or something. And I've said countless times and I think this could totally continue this bubble into next year and whatever, but you know, when you have someone not say like going on on stage and saying something that's not like and this is why it's better for this or or this is why this is a number we've always wanted to achieve for this reason and they're literally just saying isn't that number huge? Clap everybody. It's just a race to say the biggest number, not to actually achieve anything. At least that's my takeaway there. Although she did show that they did achieve things, you know, after going through all the BS, you actually do see her just confidently state that they will have the fastest AI acceler accelerators, the fastest CPUs for AI

7:00 servers and data center. And so I'm also like, you know, even though there's a lot of crap here, there's also a lot of confidence and there's a lot of here AMD saying actually we think we're the best now. We do. We're actually going toe-to-toe with Nvidia and they better watch out. And I have to say that without going into any specifics, behind the scenes, people seem to be suggesting that as well that actually AMD is catching up to Nvidia in AI and that and I keep hearing about all these delays and issues at Nvidia that maybe they bit off more than they can chew. Though I certainly hear that it's stressful at AMD as well trying to leaprog Nvidia. But anyways, that yeah, AMD might be there that next year might be the year that AMD is the hot AI company to talk about at least if the bubble is continuing. Besides that, you know,

7:47 there was anthropic buying Helios. Sure, that'll be good for their stock price. Don't have anything else to say though. And then there's also something to point out here. It seems like AMD is de facto the first company to actually be at real 2 nanometer. And that's incredible. I mean, I just remember what, four years ago or something, you know, we would just talk about how Apple would always be first to do this and then other people would get there and like you saw Nvidia get to nodes before AMD occasionally. Not always. I mean, AMD certainly got to 7 nanometer for like their desktop GPUs at Nvidia, but it does seem like AMD is doing this thing that I've been seeing on their road maps, and that is they always want to be first moving forward. You know, they want to be first to two nanometer with Zen 6. They want to get to N2X on with some sort of Zen6 product before anyone

8:33 else's to anything smaller than 2nometer having, you know, first to two nanometer, then first to the best version of 2nmter. They want to get to A14 with Zen 7 right after that and on and on and on. And speaking of, you know, uh, Zen 7. Actually, AMD also confirmed much more about their road map than I expected. I get the feeling that they're tired of leakers saying their code names before they officially say them. I'm actually surprised they haven't done this a while ago. Like there's no real reason to say that Zen 8 is Reva or Revena, however you say that, before Mors, me at my team at Mors Law is dead, put out a video about it. But I just thought that was funny. Like you would never see this. They'd be like vague like we have Zen 7 and then Zen, you know, next. We know it's Zen 8, but

9:18 they won't say it. Just going Zen 7 Florence, Zen 8 Rava. You know, it confirms some of the leaks I put out there. But it's also funny to see that like the maybe the first time in three years AMD said a go name before I have. Just have to point that out that it seems like finally they're over hoping they can stop the reporting Wars Law Ed is doing uh before they can say it publicly and they might as well just show their road map early. And I hope they don't do it too early. They can become an Intel. But it is funny to see that. And all right, that's the final things that I noticed about the AMD press conference. Let us now get to the Xbox backwards compatibility thing. So, I am, as you can tell, on vacation here. I'm actually in Montreal, sunny Montreal today. And it is beautiful outside. I'm actually trying to spend as little time as I need to on the stuff I need to cover today. But I just had to. I saw

10:04 this last night, the Xbox on PC backwards compatibility announcement. I just knew I had to speak about it. And yeah, I think this is actually possibly a big deal. Not shortterm, but long term. My hunch, and I ran this past a few game developers, you know, before I went to bed last night, and they responded to me today, they agreed with me. My hunch is that what's going on, what has been going on for a couple years now, is Microsoft is working on trying to get some form of unified backwards compatibility for Xbox Series, Xbox One, and Xbox OG on PC because Helix, they want Xbox Helix coming out next year to have some form of decent backwards compatibility with all their old products. This is going to be very important, especially if they try to go all digital, to be able to say, "Yeah,

10:49 but all of your digital games going all the way back, farther back than Sony's PS4 are still going to work on your new Helix PC. And so, if you're going to go to an all digital future, go to the future where you know your games will be protected, that you know your library will be carried over. You know, whether that means they do let you transfer disc to digital or not, I'm not sure. But either way, this is a good PR win for Microsoft over Sony. Well, Sony's dealing with, well, PlayStation is dealing with probably the biggest PR crisis they've had in PlayStation history. Genuinely, I think this is worse than the PS3 reveal. I think this is worse than when their outage happened, which I'll get to the Xbox outage in a second. Um, and I just think that that's what this is. Microsoft has been working on Helix backwards compatibility to previous Xboxes for a while now. It's not ready at all, and

11:35 this week they're launching an alpha before they probably intended to launch it. I mean, a handful of Xbox games, who really cares? But they're doing this because it's in progress and they know with Sony's PR nightmare going on, this is a chance for them to just have an easy layup on Sony and make Sony look even worse. And I believe that's all we should really read into this for now. I don't think that we should assume all of your past Xbox, including original Xbox games, will run on Helix. I think they'll try to get as many as they can. I still think there will be some licensing nightmares to deal with, but I think this is a good show. there's a good show of good faith towards their fans in a time where Sony is not showing any shows of good faith towards their fans. And that's what this is. It's basically a PR move until we see proof they can port more than a handful of games. But that's fine with me. The takeaway, by the way, because I know

12:21 this is where PlayStation fanboys will share a clip of me and just go, "See, he's saying it's just a PR move." Well, whatever. Even if it is just a PR move, I wish Sony would do more good just PR moves to make Xbox, Steam Machine, all these other devices be priced more competitively and act more competitively. Even if it's just a PR move against Sony, this Xbox on PC backwards compatibility initiative this July is still something that should give Sony a kick in the ass. And I wish Sony would do more of that in response. And I think eventually they will be forced to. But uh oh yeah, and then of course then Xbox has Xbox Live go down the day after they announced this. Sorry everybody, but that's just another instance where I say these companies, they besides Steam, who's been doing it for decades. These

13:07 console companies are not ready for an all digital future. They think they are. They are not. They have not thought things out. Their infrastructure is not ready. And it's just hilarious to see a huge PR win for Xbox right after everyone says Sony's network goes down sometimes and then Microsoft's uh Xbox network goes down. They're not ready. All right, that's it. That's it for this video. I want to get back to my vacation. Please like, subscribe, share, join the Patreon. A new die shrink just came out that you can get access to just the $2 tier. Of course, if you join, you can ask us questions as well. I think we should have Dustin from Sacred Symbols on soon. And there's a couple other people as well. join the Patreon to show support for a channel that is a whole team of people that you will be supporting, including some people that work a little bit while they're on vacation. Otherwise, thank you for watching and have a good weekend, everybody.