[Digimon Podcast] LiT Episode 29 - Where's Wallace?

0:00 [Music] it's been one week to look to me [Music] hello everyone and welcome to episode 29 of Lost in Translation one I'm May and I'm Jay this week we watched our war game or alternatively children's oh

0:45 sorry just run the movie part two and we watched Summer Wars but a bit more on that later is that a children's war game it's our war game or children's board game okay they're the same thing it's bokra no war game which is like hour I'm nodding this is a problem well Boku is like I and then bakura is our so it's our war game don't watch a show called Boku no pico though however do watch a show called Boca Renault because that's really good it's about robots and like aliens and it's not Evangelion anyway on to Postman Pat so no digit is this week no Digi news because it's tries out we have no more digit news oh yeah we're done our first Anonymous is anonymon and they say I'm worried about zero two as well because from what I've heard the

1:31 American dub is just plain awful and I didn't like the season when I watched it in the original either so like that's kind of worrying to hear for Jay I guess but I'm just going to tell him that as a kid zero two is actually my favorite and from my memory I really like it and it sort of improves on the mechanics of Adventure but that's just that's just what I think um I'm going to be going into it with low expectations anyway it's probably a very reasonable warning because I'm worried of hyped up Tamers too much and you're going to come to Tamers and just say this is awful I don't want to clean it my way through it and get to the end being like when was it meant to get good yeah like yeah zero two is not bad but it's I hope that you don't hate it anyway next Anonymous says what is your interpretation of Tai Chi and sora's relationship in that movie without knowing any future events do you

2:18 agree it was ambiguous or clear that they are together so first of all in the original it's mainly just like they're having another argument and their friends but it seems a lot more romantic in the Digimon movie um I think Jeff nemoy has come out and said that he supports Thai and Sora being together so maybe that had an influence on their relationship being a little bit like more obvious in the English version what do you think I think that they're I think there was enough romance implied in it I understand it was a it was a birthday gift but it was such a weird argument to have and it was just too it was too much to pretend that it was between friends I wouldn't say that like they're dating but it sounded like they were on the cusp of it very clearly and that they were both interested and I think the the way you really get that is Ty's

3:05 embarrassment by the little love heart thing that's going on or the interpretation through to like love as the subject later and then her reciprocation which she goes all the way to his house she stands out in front of his door you wouldn't do that even if you were having like a weird argue with a friend you wouldn't go over there you said you would send a message or something and then she's you know she's all conflicted about it it's based on the argument that they were having there's clearly more going on than an issue over a hair clip I think yeah like she's worried that he doesn't like he doesn't think she's pretty with the hat or something yeah and I mean at least she's upgraded to an actual hat a very clear hat he's very used to it being a helmet um and yeah that that's also that's also obviously a point in the favor of that

3:52 where you go why would she care what he thinks about her hair or about her hat why would she ever care what anyone thought about it unless she really wanted him to like it for whatever reason so the next uh Tumblr message is from LA monstro and I'm really hoping I'm saying that properly so they say when I was a kid I was sad that I couldn't watch Digimon the movie in cinemas so when finally the movie was on TV I was so hyped I didn't notice how I disliked the movie until the third time I saw it the way the children talked was was a little off the music was different too and there was no moment they weren't talking now I understand why everything was weird the American dub I wish the Digimon movie was only one movie our war game or hurricane touchdown in Latin America it could have been awesome so I also I noticed that in the English version they seem to be talking very fast and I think that's because they

4:39 didn't talk much in the the original version they're all just saying oh that's a that that's something like what's this but instead of saying like Izzy we're just talking about like oh I'll do this and I'll do this and more techno Babel instead of him just you know not saying much they had to force him to put more words into a small amount of time frame because he was only talking a little bit so I noticed that a lot and I actually found it rather off-putting and it in my opinion it made the movie less good because they were trying to force more words when they could have just had you know very small sentences like they had in the original it was called hurricane touchdown no no the third part's called hurricane touchdown it's actually got a really long name it's like hurricane touchdown Supreme Evolution or something that's an awesome name um it's good I think it's good in the Japanese version the English version cuts out half the story we'll get to

5:25 that in a few months also we will discuss I guess by our feelings about this movie in more detail later I'd like to respond particularly but I think the movie has a lot of problems Beyond just the acting um it has a lot of problems in its presentation and its context uh some of which are completely baffling but we have a whole show about it so we'll get there so uh next we had an email from Edgar they say that they're respond responding quickly on the old man speech it's not really something that happens in life in a sense that when you hit a certain age start having a different grammar it's just a grammatical thing in Japanese and implies his age most effective when it's a novel you have no images rather than a

6:13 way someone speaks in Japan however since we don't have that in English can I just speaks more or less normally um Kansai Ben Kansai Ben it's it's the guy no it's the Osaka connection that I spoke about last time oh okay when none comes from uh similar to the hicc accent of the US and does Australia have that yes yeah we do we call them bogans yeah so there's a um there's a very art artistic video that I'll link in the show notes called the ciggy butt brain oh my God and um it's if like I think it's quite vulgar so if you don't like that kind of thing probably don't watch it but it's a very very good representation of what Australians sound like oh my or steal my ladder yeah and

6:59 they talk about like smoking a lot because that's what Australians do apparently and they all wear like singlets like Bing Tang t-shirts and thongs like oh yeah yeah no mate like you know how in England they have chavs well imagine Cheves with like they're usually convicts like okay they kind of make chavs look a little bit posh a little bit yeah um yeah there's a lot there's a lot of this really cheap wine called goon which like you can get for like a few dollars it's like it tastes like the grapes um and uh it goes on to say that uh that I'm right and that we should stop hyping Tamers and instead hope zero two well it's not uh Edgar's favorite one it did

7:45 do some interesting things and I'm just and he's certain that I it's really weird translated this from the screen to give me a moment uh we'll really like at least one of the new characters is it Kari well I like Kari you like Curry now will I you'll see me better will she not is she Jesus still do you remember she's still Jesus I want you to experience it but there is a character that I really like but I'm worried about what the dub does to him yes it Willis oh yeah good luck seeing that like 40 minute movie where Willis is and then never again never okay um and on the kids and on the kids coming back uh they did it through the magic of friendship and determination it's through the magic of emotion again this one isn't the hardest sci-fi um I'm a lot overthink it that's all right uh it's all emotional and based on

8:30 the feelings of the characters and finally they say that they don't understand the need to have Yamato's dad to be an original digidescent um why limit the universe also would the kids have become Digi eggs I thought they've had that exact thing it's like do the kids have to evolve back because if they're in the place that you go to in between here and start a village do they have the ability to go and become eggs like I said to be slower Evolution with like evolving as we do through age yeah like a little like man pops out but it's [Music] is that correct yeah well that's just what showed up on Gmail all right so SP if there's a longer name you should send us another email and they said that

9:15 they've been listening to the podcast from the beginning uh on the occasionally commenting and honestly anonymously on time but you don't have to be anonymous Anonymous anymore that's true that's true and finally decided to send a message since you did a special on try but don't know your Tumblr if you say anyway um they grew up on a different dub and it was very faithful to the original maybe Brazil one at a gas okay the Brazilian one like had the had a different interests some of them have like butterfly bits like got a different one I think the Brazilian one kept the English song Angelica yeah anyway so uh the girl so the girl from the different dub that was very faithful and they're worried about what the American doubles will do to O2 so am I so is May so is everybody uh and

10:03 they said they love to try and um I know mate really loved it and I came I came away from it as I think some of you know from listening to walk right special that I wasn't um overly enthused with it and then we talked about it enough and I go okay I was kind of sold on it in retrospect um especially as also I think intro I think the other the next few movies will be a lot better because they've already done the intro part they don't need to introduce the characters they will assume that you've already watched it so I think they'll be a bit more I guess there'll be more content like I think Jay was a bit bored with all the introductions I think my problem was that the introductions could have been more interesting my Pro I would sum it down to missed opportunities the thing I thought wasn't bad but it had so many times when it could have been great but

10:48 it kind of squandered them like when all the kids just randomly show up with all their Digimon around that's not even a spoiler because you knew that was going to happen and they don't really do intros for most of them just there they are okay and I think that it could have been good scenes and I just come off the end of adventure with which last episode does a really good job of showing the kids one-on-one with their digital one and talking to them having their personal we spicy goemon and Joe will reunite we do but it's very it's very short we shouldn't talk about try too much no we're not going to yeah some people might not be having but I think we can say anything it's that there are Digimon in it and they are with the kids what with that being they're in the trash that's in the trailer ties in it Ty's in it did you know that he's also the main character yeah he's straight up the main character there's no ambiguous ambiguity so if you

11:33 want to send us any messages we can email us on Gmail so that's lost in translationmon gmail.com you can find us on Twitter Tumblr Facebook we have a discussion thread on with the will you can comment on this episode on Soundcloud if that's why you're listening to us you can message us on Soundcloud and we'd really appreciate if you reviewed us on iTunes or Stitcher or wherever you're listening to us excellent so our game starts in the original version with just Bolero being really loud it's blaring Bolero it was it was I liked it though because it was sort of a kind of a reference to when the egg shows up in the prequel movie and how All Electronics go all Twitchy and weird it's not even reference anymore that's just a thing that happens that's Canon I know but it's also I think it's referencing to

12:19 the last time it was a movie yeah in the English one that's very clear because it just happened yeah and they constantly reference them their first movie in the English version so he car is very adorable in the in the original version actually too adorable where she's normal though but what I mean is that she wasn't really like that in the show so I haven't I haven't written in my notes I don't at this beginning I didn't know if this was before or after Adventure because she was acting really weird it's a year and a half yeah so it's clearly after but it never indicates that and this is an English one where the prequel had just shown you can imagine the prick we talked about this ages ago right half a year ago yeah so the people just shows and then you skip to here if that Adventure is done yeah and the kids are like this and you and things continue

13:06 well the movie came out after zero two I believe or maybe no I think yeah I think it came up after zero two because hurricane touched down in Japan came out halfway through zero two so the movie would have come out towards the end of zero two in English so it's assuming that you would know I guess I mentioned this uh I believe in try as well in that try special but if you make a show or if you make something you should also kind of assume that that's someone's first exposure to whatever it is you're making that's why they do before like last time on that's why they do that what in this movie is incomprehensible to somebody who has not seen Adventure before the first bit okay it's a prequel and then you skip forward and you've just come off Thai and uh and carry with this little dinosaur who's goes nuts and like

13:52 breaks Japan and now they're best friends and now not only they're best friends there's a million other Digimon all these other kids who showed up out of nowhere did the kids show up in the prequel yeah but basically out of nowhere um and they they all know stuff all of a sudden who's gennai right it's completely out of nowhere imagine if you're a parent taking in a kid to say this it is meaningless absolutely meaningless well you might just like the pretty color dollars in the giant fighting monsters that is not how parents look watch these movies I would know my dad took me to the Pokemon movie and fell asleep really twice not in the same movie he took me to two different Pokemon movies and fell asleep in both of them wow he said there was the best sleep he's ever had I like the Pokemon movie I think I can't remember much about it but maybe the writers will give us a better part in the next one so yeah that's sorry I just I feel like now is

14:38 approximately the time to speak about one of the key problems of the English version of this movie where it's right after the prequel and it has got no context for anything that's happened I think it's assuming that because people like to people like I don't know what kids like Phineas and Ferb is there a Phineas and Ferb movie it probably is like do they go and see the Phineas Ferb movie if they haven't seen Phineas and Ferb I know there's the the girl who just slams open the door and says mom what the [ __ ] got something along those lines I'm gonna have to censor that you are um but just like you you even you just watched Adventure even right and all of a sudden Middle River views it was a weird thing where did that come from

15:25 original notion just like what what is this Evolution called what is it called it's called jogress okay okay so jogress is made up it's progress when you jog no it's joint progress no okay guess what it's in the English version Oh that's the Japanese one yes Omega Evolution no oh I'm sad this is it cross spelled with an x no no that's incredible I think oh okay it's not Fusion because that's what they use is it Mega Evolution wait no that wouldn't make sense no you give up yeah DNA Evolution well DNA digivolution that doesn't make any sense well they're like splashing with DNA I guess but they're not they're

16:11 becoming its arms it's just Voltron yeah well anyway so back onto the actual movie spoilers that happens beat oh yeah spoilers for this podcast that tells you the plot okay so yeah then I wrote after Hikaru is adorable I said Curry is a pain in the next like she just walks in she's like I'm annoying um oh she's great and then we have Izzy who um says about 2000's early 2000s thing which is huh prodigious a computer virus on the internet he seems so impressed and like so surprised I'm just like I guess they didn't really think that computer viruses were going to be a thing back then where else would you find one yeah like first of all computer virus already says that you'd be on a computer and I guess do they not think

16:57 that um you could get computer viruses I don't know 2000s man not on the internet you can't so I've written like I I noticed here that Izzy talks far too much from what is actually being said like and I noticed I've said this before in postmod Pat where he says things like huh what's this is that a digimon instead of saying oh I will do this I will I will connect to the internet are and he says all these words and like I guess they're trying to make him funny it's like oh I'm joke joke joke joke joke joke prodigious the problem with this is that because he talks more he says more stupid things that arguably make no sense and even ruin the plot a bit he's talking about this virus on the internet surprise and he goes oh the

17:44 virus is feeding the egg which means that the egg isn't the virus it's being corrupted by a virus yeah and they seem to be under the impression that this this virus is making this Digimon say later on I will wonder what would have happened if he wasn't attacked by the virus I'm like if that that's just him he's also um It also says at some stage of the English one it doesn't mean it might not even be a digimon and then it evolves part Digimon part virus I think they say but also like that someone's like what if it's not a digimon and then it did evolves like I don't know what it could possibly be and also like can like through the whole this whole movie in the English version they seem to have the impression that it's looking for someone I guess it's to link in Willis from Hurricane touchdown Which has nothing to do with the plot by

18:31 the way it is straight up a completely changed plot with this virus rather than just being hungry and eating everything it's looking for somebody but the problem with that is that that implies it can be reasoned with because it's communicating and if everyone just gave it what it wanted because it's calling everyone's phone numbers and instead of that being a screen of it eating data and that's whatever everyone's getting cold because it's a scrub it's calling to look for somebody is it that guy and he goes okay bye and then goes to his computer like that would do it yeah so then the uh the butterfly plays in the original and then Bare Naked Ladies plays in the the a dub I really like that actually it fit really nicely yeah it goes pretty well and actually the intro and ending of

19:18 this episode of the podcast is a mashup that first Asian did on Tumblr and uh thank you by the way um he's letting us use that we have permission fantastic um anyway so poor Joe looks is studying and I think they reference him going to summer school I thought it was middle school version it says he signed up for summer school but instead of like he's he's doing like Middle School exams or something or Junior School exams um we really need a talk dub um okay so at the beginning we see that Mimi has lots of letters by a door and on the door of course she has the family nameplate which says tachikawa which is you know her last name and then it has her dad's name her mum's name her name and her brother's name and her dog's name and her cat's name in the dog in

20:03 the dub um uh but yes so dub writers care to tell us why you changed this nameplate to this wonderful normal nameplate to read to Mimi lovejo tweet tweet Japanese boy like as they've really tried to push the ships in this and like I posted the screenshot comparing both of them are just saying why and a lot of people said yeah they just really pushed tried to push the ships hard in this movie but just like later on we see that the Yagami nameplate is changed to the Khmer nameplate and that's you know to change the name because that's what his last name is in the in the English version but why didn't you change this to two Thai love Sora or tutai lovejo or Too Thai from Izzy or whatever that was a

20:51 bit of metal it couldn't change that the kids are forging these things yeah well the heart looks pretty extravagant but yeah I'm just really perplexed by why they know what a nameplate is they use them but why'd you have to change it to a love letter also suddenly Ty's mum can't cook yeah I thought that was a really weird joke where in the original uh she's she's made basically Izzy runs over to Ty's house and that's where most of the movie takes place um and she's made it along tea I think um and she hands a glass to uh to Izzy he's like yeah thanks and then he tries to go to Tiny he just says no they're the whole movie um um Izzy is drinking this too in the in the dub instead it's like tomato juice and uh

21:38 no no it's not tomato juice because tomato juice is normal it's like potato beef jerky shakes yeah could it be jerky shakes or something then at some point she wants to make a cake and in the first one she's like yeah I've got flour or something around and the English is like yeah I got wheat germs and then she tries to get uh is it a help and he's shaking up flour on the table he says is this enough and in English she goes I don't know I've never used flour on a cake before and I don't know why they thought that it would be interesting to have her be this terrible cook when what she does provide a lot of stuff a lot of the time it only fits into two little jokes that that happen that get changed slightly but one was unnecessary because it already took place which is that over the course of drinking a lot of tea is he needs to go pee except that in the

22:24 English because he's drinking potato beef jerky cake shakes uh he needs to go poop because I thought he feels bad somebody needs to throw up or he's throw up either way he feels sick yeah he stomach hurts but it's the same animation from running off I mean the last thing is that his um Burns something in a microwave because of the virus that affected basically All Electronics yeah because it's computer controlled they say that actually this was just like well yes I burned it yeah like it seems much more but it's her fault rather than it's the virus's fault who just affected everything that's electronic ever so I know I don't know why they had to put in that joke maybe they bring up that you can't cook in zero two maybe they don't maybe it's just a one-off thing that she suddenly yeah yeah well Ty's I haven't watched it oh anyway so the

23:12 best joke in the whole movie and probably the whole of Digimon is said and it's kept in both versions and I'm so happy they kept it so Izzy comes to the door and doesn't explain himself why he's there he just says the egg hatched so of course Tai Chi holding an egg looks at the egg in his hand and yeah it's perfect and they kept it and I'm just so happy that egg the Digi egg of the thing that might not even be it might not admitted to me fair if someone came to my door and said the egg hatched and I was holding an egg I just say I'd look at the egg because in his context the only egg that exists is the egg in his hand like he does he doesn't know about the Digimon so it's a stupid thing for Izzy to say anyway but I love it it's a perfect line I love it love it love it love it love it and then as he's talking about his net friend in L.A is

23:58 that Wallace yeah so is it Wallace though yeah it's a it's changed to to Willis Wallace I can't I appreciate I think his name's Willis in the dub I can't remember and his name's Wallace in the original I don't know why would they change it they're both American names didn't they find that kuramon has evolved to sumamon and Simon evolves to karamon and also he can talk in the English for some reason why not Digimon can talk yeah but they don't he doesn't he doesn't want his version because he's meant to be he's not meant to be sent he's meant to be a virus he's meant to be not smart he's meant to be fair he was always smart he's a monster and if it's like not like a cry you can't communicate you can now I mean like the thing with the clock was always there yeah I mean he communicates with like with text like

24:45 uh I'm hungry or let's play yeah he can give me see I'm very thrilled because I can actually read what he writes because I read it because they're translated into a big hello yes but I can I I can read karakan and hiragana and that's about it I'm proud of you I'm very proud family being proud I'm proud of me you can hear the sound of it so then we're reunited with the Digimon and uh so ties reacted with agamon and it's very cute they're just jumping around this very cute like pixely world and Jedi's there and then they talk and then they say what they're gonna do then tail one starts walking to the wall for a few minutes like she just walks into the wall I don't know why but I guess they had to say that it was glitchy or something like because obviously that whatever they're in operates on the video game rules not like it's not in

25:31 the digital world necessarily because why would you be walking straight into the wall why would they be walking in 90 degree angles and not just be able to Free Run yeah I think it's like this isometric like game-ish area that they're in in fact a lot of the mechanics of how the Digimon work don't make a lot of sense well it's a TV show no it's a movie they haven't they have a greater onus to make sense in a movie I would make I thought it was cute oh that's this was cute yeah but it begs too many questions about how things work later on and we'll get there so then Tai Chi tries to call people Joe is an exam Yamato and takaru are out their grandma is very old um so like advertising they're at the grandparents house uh so when Ty says oh can I speak to Yamato otakalu and the

26:16 grandma says sure I'll get them and then she hangs up I want to speak to Yamato Novato is my grandson yeah I think that was pretty much done in both versions which I appreciated I want to talk to them I like to talk to them too that was definitely in the version uh in one of them I think it was in the Japanese she was like great and then just hangs up because she doesn't really get there and then she says sure I'll get them and then she just hangs up very slowly um also I think after this there might be a bit of footage that's cut but I'm not I'm not quite sure um because I just couldn't find the English version so there's a woman who's just looking at the the meat and it's like in cracky label and she's like oh huh but I think that might be might be

27:02 cut no that's um are you I don't remember that no there was a guy there was a guy buying the chocolate and that was that was captured I'm talking about there was another scene actually the the difference is a little bit is a little bit distinct just in its impact because in Japanese it's like okay a million yen that's pretty expensive it gets really expensive it's still a few thousand it's a few thousand dollars for this chocolate a million dollars must be really good chocolate pay for a plastic although uh this is this takes place in Japan like the series has covered that this is Japan why are they using dollars oh there are worse bits but they try to sense again like even though they've already said they're in Japan they still try to remove like references to being Japanese that's weird yeah so yeah so when Tachi calls

27:49 Hikari and she answered the phone but she's at a party and wants to blow out the candles and apparently she in the English version she's volunteered to be cut in half by a magician and there's no magician shown but why not because that's what they would have if you have to be slightly wackier so question is helping cook Tai actually doesn't want to cook Sora Tai Chi gets very embarrassed they go back to the computer cat's looking at the computer nothing you know there's just silence in the English version thank you for this meow.com was that cat in this I just realized they have a cat yes yeah I just said that was the the cat was in oh I don't remember seeing them yeah it's like thank you missing meow.com it's the best part I don't remember the cat at all yeah he was in that one just one I'm totally okay I have no memory whatsoever of the cat so the Digimon go to the

28:36 internet and they have to use Izzy's password which is prodigious and so people around the world are watching the battle caramelster perfect and attacks them during Evolution which I I wish that all enemies did because it seemed like the smartest idea why don't other enemies do that the evolutions are sometimes takes several minutes and if you can just stop them and not only do you stop them you shunt them back to being a like an adult yeah like I think a while ago you brought this up like why are they just not attacking them and I said it does happen so this is this is the bit where it happened but the fact that it can happen here means that when everyone just lets it go like would you just attack Panama before it becomes engine when instead of just staring there and screaming if anything may be hate vam demon more it was this yeah like if I was a digimon bad guy I'd

29:21 attack all the Digimon enjoying the evolution because that's essentially where they're vulnerable right it's like 30 to seconds to a minute of pure vulnerability in which you'll just win and they sit there and they watch it and they're like hmm let's do it and they just want to evolve at the same time either because the application is very clear that they're not they're not simultaneous they're one after another yeah because they're when they're simultaneous it's like in the last episode of Adventure when you can see them side by side yeah um it is baffling how much this ruins every other enemy in the series yeah so then an Australian boy emails them and says you know how are you losing and this is just replaced by Willis and he says I'm sorry for doing that this is my fault she's like no no just go away is

30:07 the Australian one will ozone probably dingo or something yeah dingo or eucalyptus ah my friend didgeridoo uh so then we see a ferris wheel speeding up and the little girl seems really happy by the fact that she's probably gonna die um this is and I think this might be cut in the English version again I'm not sure I couldn't find in the English version so I'm assuming it was cut I don't know why it would be cut but it was apparently well no I know I know I caught one really big car what was it um well we'll get there okay um but a lot of Ty's moms watches the ferris wheel's really going today like no concern at all like that's that's interesting yeah so I come and look at this so then we go back to kari's party and the birthday girl's face is so done whenever Hikari is on

30:53 the phone like oh my gosh she's just like her eyes just square and it's funny the one change here actually I think is interesting is that in Japanese she's already on the phone everyone kind of just notices this one's removed in English version I'm putting them halfway with it yeah no that was the the first time this is the second time that she's at the party but uh like she'll do her big breath intake for the bronze the candles and you hear bring bring because the phone's ringing yeah in the English only yeah but in Japanese she's already on the phone like they change it a little bit where yeah one they've all just kind of noticing the other one there I think they're they have to cut it down for time because you know they've got to fit into it maybe three movies in yeah I think it's like a 30 minute movie in the English version and a 40 minute movie

31:39 like with like a few minutes of ending song but still they needed to fit it was awesome they added on a clip from the next movie to the start of this to the to the end of this movie which I guess we'll get to in a bit I didn't watch it I I got there I'm like this is it yeah I don't you could have watched it because it was meant to be in that movie so um their connection disconnects and tied to his head does a complete 180. like that should not happen like he just looks like he's broken something Exorcist one yeah so Tai Chi tries to contact everyone again any anything which is an English version instead of just like beep beep beep he gets yelled at by the phone voice person and then Sarah tries to visit taichi which I think they put here more to imply that she was just visiting him because he called or

32:24 something no no he sent an email but it didn't go through because yeah I know no but this part was like unified that that was because that's why she showed up was because like when he said I'll just come over what's it later on no because she was already gone because she had already come over he left a message because she was gone yeah yeah so she and because she was outside and then she goes oh you're a jerk and then leaves yeah she doesn't get the message till she gets home um so then infamon calls him like on the phone and actually talks to him on the phone like he says did you program me instead of it just being the computer computerized boys going Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi this plot is really dated because this suit only this plot only works back when the phone system and the internet were one

33:09 thing yeah like he wouldn't have escaped down into the phones five years later maybe five years later really I don't know 2006. there was more cable DSL than there was dial-up definitely 10 years later yeah it could be yeah definitely 10 years later yeah uh so yeah the news announcer says now some breaking news phone systems throughout Tokyo are experiencing difficulties and then taiji's mum says A lot's going on today and that's fair enough a lot is going on today you're trying to make a cake that's that's fine um then and also the ferris wheel was going a little bit faster than usual anyway so in the in the dub have gone dead worldwide if your telephone is dead please call your phone company well at least my sister can't call me three times a day they had to put in a two jokes two in one not joke and also they made it a worldwide thing instead of just Japan like it's very much just a

33:57 within Japan and Tokyo thing rather than a worldwide thing well that would make a lot of sense what would it be in the phone system yeah the phone system wasn't exactly extend all the way but I guess they're trying to tie in Willis to all this is a little America in both yeah it's eventually so yeah so I I no I'm so I wrote that the Sora visiting Thai clip is moved here to imply that you check the phone messages and came only here so it was earlier it was when he was trying to call people and wasn't getting through it but now when he's actually leaving let messages for people on the um on The Reserve System or something that he was just she's she checked it and then was in two minds about whether she that she should visit visit or not so yeah it was moved there

34:42 that makes her seem really terrible yeah that makes it seem like really God like because he said oh just please come over and then the next clip you see is Sora about to knock on his door but I'm pretty sure that was much earlier because I saw the Japanese one first I just I just thought about it as she came over in the absence and she hadn't heard it yet yeah because when he left it he would have just been inside I saw the Japanese version first I just noticed that that was different I think um I mean I think it was different I might be wrong how do you use the reserve message system to notify someone that they have a message I think I think she just checked and was lucky also same with me like like Matt and TK would they have just gone to the phone and be like yeah okay well I think what the grandma might have said oh they want to talk like he wants to talk to you because sister she still went to get them there

35:27 wasn't a TV running in there was there yeah [Music] no they were watching baseball in both movies that's why I said the same movie that's the same movie holy crap and also like um his uh TK's grandma was watching TV and he was giving her a massage uh so yeah we found out the Mimi's in Hawaii and she seems a lot more vain as always in the inspiration uh I actually thought that um it was Ty's interpretation like his imagination of what she was like reading out what her postcard said yeah I just got that like that that was just yeah that's what she saying in the postcard yeah so we'd love to do this guy but she never she wasn't yelling I wish you would Colby had exclamation points like a lot of them yeah I don't know but she gets

36:13 back from like America again she's always in America like she goes back in America and try that happens as well and she's just she's just like hey everybody just said something other stuff even the really important things are happening I like MiMi I like her um so that so yeah they've used the reserve messages able to contact them then Matt says it's happened after apparently he said again so there's another little line they had to leave in did you know that they really like inserting jokes into the English for no reason so infamon once again sends a message saying that he's looking for someone which he isn't

36:59 but they have to reference Willis he is now though like this is somehow Willis's fault that they're trying to get in this movie so it took takeru and Yamato try and find a computer well if someone's eating America and the clip of them going around to house to house until they find like a go to a couple's house um he's removed and all of a sudden they're on a random's bike yeah instead of like that was the big one I noticed I'm like there's a whole scene that they just cut yeah so it's basically if they find a house like oh yeah there's only one in town it's our Internet's down at the moment like our computer's not connected and then TK starts crying he's like oh fine so he takes them on a bike and then they go to the barber but instead we just see them on a stranger's bike I feel like he's crying earlier than that but it's been a while now yeah so then this is not a stranger Spike they're like Uncle whatever they just they pretended that they doing oh okay

37:45 in the English one they changed the line well they have to because otherwise it's a stranger's bike in the in the English version just like when the kids get picked up by that random dude who's their Uncle yeah cousin yeah it was actually just a random who wanted these 10 year old girls so this is where the bit where um is he says oh I wonder what the Digimon would be like if he was never attacked by the virus it was like he wasn't attacked by anything he is inside oh so this is really weird for him to say when it's like they're a virus type Digimon aren't they viruses yeah does that mean they'll be egg which is beaten over the head by ogremont a little bit oh geez so yeah is he likes is he still drinking through a long tea or I guess beef shakes and then oh so Panama government got on

38:32 the internet and there's not much talking they're just saying oh look it's Panama and gavamon and you know there's tentomone oh come on Phoenix version Paramount says sorry we're late um he's not tall enough it's so garbage I thought it was cute but I think it was unnecessary like totally another joke that I kind of I think they just wanted to make this movie funnier than it was I think it's a lot more serious in The Originals kids can't pay attention very kids have no attention span whatsoever so then infamon evolves try to evolve before they should have said yeah last time we tried to evolve that didn't work out too well so let's evolved before we get to him and then

39:18 he's getting attacked and he's in the things claw and he's like flying backwards towards the wall and TK goes look out so then there's a really tense moment and taija's just looking at the screen and then if he goes to the bathroom to wait because he's had so much oolong tea and then I think he just has a stomach ache and it has to be sick or has to go the toilet or something because he's had too many beef jerky shakes he's been poisoned so then their internet kind of goes funny and I think their computer breaks and I really like what they did in the original version because that since they're playing Braveheart it just like sounds like it's lagging just gonna show me your Braveheart show me your Braveheart Show Me Your brave heart show me your Braveheart over again like a record screwed up yeah I really like that effect and then there's a blue screen of death because Tai Chi hits the

40:04 computer too much did he hit the screen which shouldn't blue screen your uh your computer because it's just yeah with the computer parts on the floor the monitors on the table yeah no no yeah they're both on the floor they brought them both down yeah but he hit the Monitor and then they had blue screens somehow I think it was just going to blue screen anyway though to be honest because it was doing that show me your Braveheart thing maybe when I had a Windows computer and it was about to blue screen I always knew because I was listening to something and I just repeat the last bit of sound it made that's entirely possible but I guess the show positions that it's his for entirely so Dearborn one copies himself and launches one missile in the Ink's version he launches two missiles one in Japan and one in Colorado so that's the Thai Wallace in obviously who is Willis where's Wallace

40:49 where where is Wally Willis I I will read that book where's Wallace it's throughout the series and you find who's Wallace is so um I told Jay that there were two characters that show up in the background when the kids around the world are watching the D fight and I was like two of these cards will be relevant one is relevant to zero two one is the character in The Wonder Swan games and he just picked a screenshot of like oh I think it's the one who's black with the blonde kid I think and he just wrote is this Wallace I was like you missed the point of the exercise no I've got the exact point of the exercise is it Wallace so yeah what the characters that do show up uh there's Miyako with one of her older sisters and there is Rio in

41:36 the mountains we're not sure where he is but he's in the mountains Australian friend no no Rio is like Japan Japanese man oh okay um so it's Mount Fuji the only mountain in Japan so then Izzy's getting lots of emails and he's reading them and he gets one from his mum and it's telling him to be home by six and as well is someone else who said like a non-digimon person who seems to know the Digimon stage because he gets an email that says how could one Mega level Digimon be beaten like how can two Mega level Digimon be beaten by one bug it's like how does this kid know the stages of Digimon I didn't even think about that but yeah that's a huge problem I guess unless all of Japan men have watched them in the sky I just don't want to know the stages

42:21 but they were talking about them there was no speakers you can't you did you could only see them there was no sound okay maybe so the kids the kid this kid happens to know the stages somehow I don't know maybe he's one of the old digidest and anyway so when they're trying to look for the one with the clock I just why can't metal groom on uses his sense use his senses again that he used with piedmon because there's too many of them I guess and they'll smell the same they're just trying to find where the swords were not which particular point so then there's seven minutes left until the missile seven minutes left also Joe's exam and then here we go starts playing and then and you know we see Miyako so I have miyaka Miyako hello baby Miyako are you okay who Miyako's

43:09 the purple hair girl they showed you oh wait the character who is who's going to be in it later oh okay got it my favorite sure um and yeah so emails are making their connection show wallgreymon and metal gurumon get beaten as they always do toshro once again is on the computer and aware of unaware of his surroundings as we've seen in tribe of standard in the earlier episodes of Digimon Adventure I think character development yeah so in the English version I think forgotten about this floor that he has and it's just Ty's mum coming in to talk to them and Izzy just starts talking and saying oh blah blah blah talking about this technobabble this and then until she goes away but he still responds to her he isn't completely ignoring her like he does in the Japanese version which I think he's just saying oh what are we gonna do what are we going to do so Tai Chi goes into

43:55 the computer and so does Yamato and the narrator Kari says something really annoying which was Tai himself became digital and we don't know how you already became digital last season I have that exact note I'm so annoyed because there were digital they were completely digital they were digital for months like I just why is this a new thing well if you had just watched the prequel yeah then yeah that would be really confusing wouldn't it so there's a really cute reference to part one in the English version which is him saying please wake up or Greymon I don't have a whistle to wake you but please wake up and I think that's really cute because you know um Tai Chi had to use his whistle to wake Greymon up in the prequel and I thought that was cute so then I really like the music that they use in the dub

44:41 and I said that in an earlier episode I know so the emails give power to them to make them form a megamon who clears up all the copies leaving the original and omnimon says his name and they just sort of say oh part walk right Mom part metal Grumman part emails joined together to become omnimon and then let's kick it up please I can't believe you know that song I've watched the movie oh yeah good point so kosher affords all the emails to Dearborn which causes him to freeze this is actually one of my like it's the stupidest thing ever but it's one of my favorite solutions to the overwhelming bad guy is we will send him all our emails and then we'll lag him so we can

45:26 catch him so when is he forwards him all the emails he says go but in English version he says You've Got Mail which is you know not dated at all and then we see Miyako again who's the best character I actually so um I have access to my boss's emails for work and it still has AOL Mail because some people still do they go on there he's much older than that he's like 65. and I'll go on there and it'll say you have unread mail oh wow no she's tall it says it out loud like you can't oh like it's it gets me every time jeez oh can can you open that one I'm around just so I can do right after this oh thank you thank you so with Tai Chi's mum about the cake the missile lands in the water

46:11 and managed to not hurt anyone yeah actually like a missile traveling that fast is still like it's the size of at least like five cars Summer Wars did this realistically because it's still super damaged some things yeah it's still going to blow up the area it's a meteor I guess it was meant to be disarmed and wasn't meant to make that much damage but it still would have burned up and it does the damage so this is the concept of the mass driver do you know what a mass driver is so a mass driver is the old it's a thing for the 60s an idea called operation Star Wars where basically you put a giant tungsten rod in space and then you drop it it's got no it's got no explosives it's got no propulsion you just drop it and on a trajectory to land wherever you hate thinking

46:57 drops so fast because it's it's gonna your gravity's dragging along it very quickly gets to terminal velocity its terminal velocity is ridiculous because it's you know it's thin it's Rod it's you know it's the it's big though um and then it picks up speed and it's got so much mass it hits the ground it's got the force of several nuclear weapons and it it had no explosives in it it just was it's so disgustingly strong and this is a lower version of that if you throw a missile at an area even if it doesn't blow up it's been traveling at hundreds of miles an hour it's going to kill everything it was gonna kill Sora like she was right next to it in fact she was

47:44 so right next to it I told her she didn't even hear it well there was the wave behind her from the water she didn't even glance like her peripheral vision should have picked up a giant wave I say oh it's like is it Godzilla no all right whatever so yeah Sora gets typed his email maybe that's why she's too preoccupied with the email that she just got she wants her boyfriend yeah so then Izzy says in the original version we didn't make it because like it still lands like he's worried that what happens if if we didn't make it because it was only to the very second what does he think would have happened if he did make it it would never have landed it would have flown yeah I don't know it stayed flying forever oh they changed this in the English version to him so saying I'm about to buff because he's had all those beef jerky shakes so then

48:30 the great song starts playing which is that's good number two Haru I think it's called I don't know it's really good it's by Mimi's voice actress again I really like it so it's and then it starts raining somehow even though it's blue sky but I don't know I guess that happens in Melbourne so I guess it could also happen in Japan it could and then I love the ending because it's just they look they load up like Windows 2000. hello Windows 2000 male friend are you reading my notes yes I am so this is so um usually we were caught on Skype but right now we're recording in uh in Jay's study because my internet's uh capped back home so it's back to the year 2002 with me um and so nothing would load so yeah I'm recording it not on Skype and in person

49:16 I've asked back to 2002 with you yeah that's my punishment for having my Xbox on all the time which by the way super annoying was watching someone with my parents and she was saying so can you make it so your Xbox doesn't turn on and do updates I'm just like no no no no no no and my Xbox turned on and I'm just no it's super good actually oh my God I've recently had an Xbox turning on yeah it does no I'm I'm full on being serious it does that like I previously had a power saving device where everything was turned off unless the TV was turned on but that actually like blew a fuse in my old TV so I could get a new TV and I got a better powerboard so yeah now my Xbox turns on if you're

50:02 in the same room and say any words combining Xbox turn it on it picks it up turn on box so it has to be like it has to be in that order though and then the Xbox turn on oh my God but man was just here mum was saying can you make sure your Xbox doesn't turn on into automatic updates extreme boxing there's a real turn on anyway back to the demons so yeah the cute photos from the movie and the children are watching uh around the world next show Miyako they show video and they show a cute picture of Tai Chi's mum and the bird cake and then a really cute photo of like Sora wearing the hair clip and she replies to titi's email and it's you know it's attached with the photo of her with a hair clip in and then instead of this next version we get Willis

50:49 um running in a field with with terium on and kokomon so he calls it he calls it terium on but it's actually gummy on Gummy one evolves into terrymon but uh yeah so that's a bit from the third part but it's not in the Japanese version because they're trying to once again tie in Willis into this movie the real main character we found him after all these years what did you think of our war game as someone who was new to Digimon it was okay if someone was really new to dude like I was when I watched the original pretty cool God that would be completely terrible like imagine having no context whatsoever for the rest of the kids Digimon and then like did they just who

51:36 were they well at least it doesn't show all of it like all of them having relationships with the Digimon it's just mainly the those four but still it's like oh yeah TK's not tall enough to ride and stuff like that yeah and wouldn't the other kids want to talk to their Digimon if they've been away for a year and a half well they didn't know because they were exams or being an or like the messages afterwards I mean like oh God we missed out our chance how pissed would you be if you were Sora and you were staying outside Ty's house when all this was happening and he tells you the next day by the way all the Digimon were here you missed it yeah and she could have seen biomon and she's like but my so do you think it was better like it would have been better to combine 's movie with the first one no it ruined it it's actively terrible so it's better

52:22 to watch it or in the way that we're watching it where we've watched the prequel then the adventure and then this movie absolutely for most things watching them chronologically is a good thing well yeah except for Memento doing that one chronologically makes that into a boring movie yes we're watching in the order it came out in Japan which is chronologically yeah I mean not everything should be chronological like um most things should be release order yeah but this is Japanese really sort of so that's accurate yeah this is still release order for example Metal Gear Solid you should not play chronologically should you play that release order you should definitely okay except for two actually two is probably really good I just had no time which one Snake Eater number three right and that goes way back in time so you'd play that first in chronological and none of it would make any sense right so uh this

53:10 one what differences did you notice and do you think they were Justified um so I mean obviously there were a lot of differences and there's the classics they add in lots of jokes Kari was the narrator randomly I'd forgotten because of course she was she was in the prequel as well but it's really weird especially because in the English in the show it was Thai but all of a sudden yeah I forgot car is the main character and she's away the whole time why is she narrating any of this when she was at a birthday party um okay on the music I actually really like the English music oh yeah I did hear the things music I've always liked the the weird over-the-top you know early 2000s late 90s I guess early 2000s music that doesn't really it doesn't fit with how Digimon should feel in Japanese but it actually works out with the

53:56 visuals and everything if only they weren't weird and over the top with the voices as well and I mean the obvious big one is that the plot's different that the reason they're fighting this thing the reason it's there at all its entire motivation is just completely different and it's all focused on this Willis kid who if you're watching this in a cinema right and again let's pretend you don't have a lot of exposure to Digimon you you've watched it occasionally on television right you've caught a couple episodes on Fox kids or whatever it was in your particular country you didn't watch all of it that's happened to a lot of kids and you're like okay I'll watch the movie or you're just a parent and you've taken the kids to the new animated movie and you've gone from this 40 minutes into the prequel or whatever how long it was 20 minutes almost pretty cool the prequel is about 20 minutes here okay so

54:41 you're in algorithm to this movie who's Willis why is he so important he's mentioned constantly the second act is entirely based on him somehow without him ever showing up well he's like that they do sort of Photoshop his um his face onto one of the emails I know but at the same time like the Australian boy I think I think at the same time he's much more important and he's basically never around um and I I don't know why they changed Ty's mom that was weird but it's them just throwing jokes around um I was just looking at something the the nameplate or Mimi's door I'm still perfect I I think it's stupid but I I pile it all in together and just what is up with them not thinking it's even a digimon or

55:27 it's pop virus part Digimon or was corrupted by a virus none of that made any sense and so it's like the people who wrote this had no idea had never seen the show or had not really bothered and it was like all right cool this is about right do we know if this is the same writers as the adventure in the English version of Japanese yeah well Jeff Nemo worked on it but I don't think he was some of the thing the thing that like he didn't want to combine the movies I wouldn't think so because yeah it doesn't make any sense for them to be able to be together you can't go from the prequel and then skip the whole TV show into the basically the wrap up like for memory he was he didn't want third part to be on it like definitely and I I don't think the third part should have been attached I don't

56:12 know what the third one is I imagine I'm going to be equally baffled when that happens and since it's so long after O2 there's probably gonna be a whole mess a little bit of a spoiler I guess they removed 20 minutes from the Japanese version well that's a heaven thing yep they removed the whole plot um so have fun with that oh by the digimans becomes let's go to America without parents for some reason I totally forgot that um when they kill Dearborn is that what he's called yeah well they killed him well Diablo mon yeah they killed Diablo mon they stabbed him in the face and then he says connection terminated but how did he say anything with his when he's dead he doesn't talk and you know and you know he's dead because the clock stops

57:00 between the one and two seconds if he had enough time to say those words they were all dead yeah and the thing with the countdown was obviously because that finishes a little bit before the thing hits the ground because then the Warhead explodes and it never actually is Meant to hit anything that's always the weird thing about nuclear weapons they don't hit anything they just explode above what you want to kill yeah so when it hits the ground it hits the ocean the the river or whatever it is he's like we failed you just look at him and you're what who thinks that come on he's like 11 and a half now are you okay almost 12. a big boy now he's basically an adult yeah oh 12 I'm basically an adult so the Digimon that was were introduced in this movie were there is a moth on my screen hello little friend um don't don't annoy him don't be a

57:47 digimon it might be Mothman okay well okay so kuramon okay it's a it's a spiky ball thing it's cute actually Simeon yeah it's getting creepy it's like a it's like a wall master from Zelda it caramel yeah this weird balloon with smiley face attached to it and it's creepy Debbie looks like drifloon from Pokemon really does actually I think yeah it was yeah okay it's based on the onomatopoeia for cackling that's cute what about infamon the spider one it gets just creepy and creepy which is really good that's what it should whoa the hiccup um what the hell is that oh this is the one that we didn't see but I'm going to show you anyway because it skipped uh to child uh from child to perfect this is

58:34 his middle level yes Metapod it's uh fruitymon or Crystal lemon yeah so it's yeah it's Metapod and what about Deborah Mon it's very it actually looks a lot like a weird feral version of um devimon which is good I actually kind of wish it looked more like him because I'd like to see an effective Debbie mod go nuts yeah it looks really good yeah it's good apparently Y2K bug based it's really oh that's cool tool the one thing that's weird about it is that its main power is multiplying and not being strong and that's cool obviously it's a it's a side it's a side swipe that the kids aren't really used to but it doesn't build up to that it's mostly uh like it's really strong up until its final form then it

59:21 multiplies forever so it feels it doesn't feel like it's multiplied multiple things that are the strongest instead it feels like its strength is that it multiplies which kind of undercuts the individual scariness of him because it's automatically a million of them is Dia Borum on Wallace I found it I found Wallace I was kind of told going into this for some Wars was like really similar and I have three pages of notes about some Wars I have six points we will not be going into this actually really in depth because this isn't a digimon clone movie there are shots that are similar and we'll be showing you some of those I believe in the show notes um but besides from really basic things it's quite different even the theme and

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