Dub Talk Presents: Summer at the Movies (Season 2) - Wolf Children

0:00 maybe you'll laugh when I tell you or write out the fairy tale it couldn't happen how could it this is surreal podcast and it's true every worth it now before we go any further the following story making toy link it's not suitable for younger rules but since incised also there'll definitely be worse for all story day discuss so be on your guard and last week the peasant

0:45 dress that was very good ollie great narration young man so how should we end this [Music] hello nature lovers and welcome to wolf talk the one and only podcast where we discuss all the finest wolves in the country and all around the world from the Red Wolves to gray wolves to mysterious wolf men who lure young women

1:31 away in the dead of night we cover them all here on this absolutely wolf tastic podcast joining me for today's discussion are my two wolf children themselves say hello to Megan hey guys did you know soccer I put wolf in the new Super Smash Brothers everyone's in the new secret Smash Brothers except waluigi where he belongs and I also have my wolf son a Mon I don't have a joke other than I'm very hairy because I have a beard you make me jealous I tried to grow a beard out and I couldn't and I looked at your picture and I'm like why even lock down a

2:18 regular regular facially like kick down a door in the flannel shirt and build you a cabin it's true and all any fueled entirely on bacon and syrup hmm and I am Wolf's daddy Noah clue and because I'm the only one who went through the process of procreating on this podcast if I'd show aren't we oh it's it's gonna bring out the best in all of us I'm just barking at puns barking up the wrong tree that worse will save those jokes for

3:04 later in the episode I guess I'll be our Andrew for the night oh no no never never go full Andrew don't do it friends don't let friends go full Andrew I respect you too much for that I respect your privacy but not what I'm asserting myself as your father by not letting you go Andrew anyway so uh in case you couldn't tell from the title or from our wolf discussion it is now summer at the movies and we are we are the second episode I believe actually and we are going into the realms of one of the most well renowned anime films from the last decade yes we are going back into the realms of Mamoru Hosoda and discussing his hit movie wolf

3:52 children or a Khmer kodomo no I'm a - Yuki when you sit down you get a group of weeaboos together you say hey what's your favorite to soda movie if someone doesn't answer some rewards they're probably answering with this now now may again that's not entirely true I believe that you actually get to be the acceptance of that rule is that right yeah because I'm the only person who says the boy and the beast without a hint of irony we already discussed that one but we may bring that up again actually I think it's actually a good point to talk about that because everyone does seem to have their favourite mom or Hosoda films some people like wolf children some people like summer Wars some people like the girl after time and there's that one person who likes that one one-piece movie that we never got or our war game and and the cool people all chime in and

4:40 say like Digimons the best movie I mean the original version is not the crazy version we got in America with that what was it Angela anaconda shorts reading way off Jackie oh yeah let's not derail into digimon for this episode because yes this is actually this was one of the films that really got a lot of people focusing on mom or Hosoda because I should probably have a premise to this wall children is a story about a young college student named Hana who inner-ear in college she actually meets a young man who turns out to be a Wolfman he is part of this mythical race that can pass off as human in regular life but can

5:26 turn into a wolf as well and through their relationship she they actually have two children together ma and Yuki ma is the younger son who was called ami because he was born in the rain and yuki is the daughter who was born in the snow unfortunately circumstances separate wolf daddy and wolf mommy and she has to raise these two children all by yourself and that leads to a lot of heartbreak a lot of confusion and a whole lot of howling so I'm gonna hold off on that never said why I just I'm trying to keep this class of here that this is renowned for being a sweet wholesome family film that's right I will keep I will keep my lewdness to

6:11 one section and in that I will let you off your leash for that one entirely oh boy well truth be told I actually escaped from her house don't tell her where I am secret's safe with me you are totally not at I'm not hiding in Florida's bunkers just hiding away is the true fact no I'm not hiding with the alligators no it's just like what happened I don't know but sometimes I hear the alligators speaking about old animation so we're talking about this

6:58 movie now to bring this up this was dubbed into English by Funimation and so tonight me and my wolf children are going to be discussing the dub we're gonna talk about the direction the writing and the individual actors that put this masterpiece together we all ready for this yeah all right now before we dive into this I guess I should like I did for the boy in the beasts episode kind of talked about everyone's personal backstory with this um a mine can you tell us a little bit about your experience with wolf children like when you first saw it or anything interesting about I saw it I saw it back when it was kind of making its way across American subtitles that story related to that but I'll save that till later and I think that wasn't my first experience with a

7:44 soda obviously like I saw they did your mom would be back in the day I'd seen the girl fill up through time and it was going through the arthouse circuit up here I'd saw several Wars yada yada like I saw it in part because like I do he was a director I enjoyed and this movie I've been getting good buzz at the time and I liked it and then later I think I saw I saw it in Japanese then obviously and I think I saw the dub at a con with my girlfriend okay yeah it was fun alright yeah I know right aren't we aren't we we met an anime club it's true I just wandered in one day well I mean hey that it we as we seen from this movie that can lead somewhere um speaking of meeting people in anime related circles

8:32 how you doing Megan I find it appropriate that this is an episode that it consists of people who are all currently in relationships that's true for now for now for now anyway so I saw I I had been a big fan of summer words for a while this was coming out and where I live at least in Florida back when this was kind of making its rounds anime didn't really come down here very

9:18 much um and even then it's still kind of shoddy it just depends on what we get though I did get the boon go movie this year I got the free it's not a movie it's literally like three [ __ ] OVA strapped together it really is and you find out RINs mom is really hot shocking Thank You Keo Annie thank you she's he's got a MILF and a fat cat named Steve I don't know what else they wanted um he's got two hot [ __ ] oh not bringing any classes I'm allowed to make dad jokes right I have it on my driver's license says allowed to make bad dad jokes I can ask Jenny if that's true do eyeshadow can you get your muzzle yet

10:07 Megan I thought we were friends big dad you do you know ever like every episode where Jenny's up like audios appeared in the background it's always like are you enjoying your last night on the planet he's a good boy I this was kind of getting passed around in like in trailers on Facebook and stuff and so I until I watched it for this episode I had never seen the movie in English and that actually still holds true to this day that until the other week outside of the Digimon movie which I'm yes it is a Hosoda film but he was hacked up and

10:53 spliced together with three different things so I like it's like kind of a Hosoda movie with an asterisk it's a third of a Hosoda film yeah it's a third of it so to film so it's got a little asterisks um up until I watch this movie actually I've never seen another Hosoda movie outside of summer wars in English I watched the boy in the beasts in Japanese and I saw it seen it in the dub and I am terrified in watching some movie destroys me but IRA my my feeling so towards the movie have changed cuz I watched the movie about like four years ago five years ago maybe when the original when the Japanese was out and through methods that are not the best thing ever because I was not a very good in like streaming wasn't what it is now

11:41 that's yeah we give leeway in that regards but I do this point that are legally available right thank you Funimation for putting those all out thank you yeah same with the Makoto Shinkai actually I don't even know wait do you also know I was the first one he um a girl in her cat that's on voices of a distant star okay they're just like wait no I think I'm actually missing one but that is completely out of print so okay all right so my own experience with this film is not quite as dramatic because I had obviously I saw the girl who left in time and I saw summer Wars

12:27 I bought them both on home video is how I watched both of those I think I got I heard about this one had come out and it was actually a gift Jennifer bought my wife bought this for me as a Valentine's present the year that it came out at home video just because she knew that I liked Hosoda films so and then we watched it together and it turned out to be a really nice film to watch as a family because there's a lot of parallels in the difficulties of raising young children with the difficulties of raising wolf children there's it turns out there's really not a whole lot of difference in the trouble that they get into the whole turning into wolves thing is you know it's just a little caveat there's no difference between wolf children and regular children like it's a metaphor it's kind of not so thinly veiled metaphor so yeah my experience is

13:15 I've seen a home video and I've seen I have all seen all of his sodas other films so yeah he's got a lot like I've caught a lot of the similarities and his other films like he's directed the girl who left her time he directed summer Wars recently directed the boy in the Beast then he has another film coming out all of his films seem to be really focused on the difficulties of growing up with family members it's like either becoming part of the family or growing apart from your family he's got a real fixation on just families in general more than any other because of his own life I believe his father wasn't present in much of his adult life or his life in general I would explain it yeah it's kind of like there's like a

14:01 cup I got a lot of the like really big name Japanese directors if you like kind of look into their past they kind of reflect this like um I know Miyazaki is one I really looked into because I actually did a huge like research paper on him in class and it was and the whole caveat of the paper was you have to do it about a famous person but you can't do why they're famous like why like why they are the way they are kind of yeah like you couldn't like I know first I guess cuz dumb high school kids like someone did it was sama bin Laden as there's and he didn't do it because you had genuine interested and he did her to be like a dumb [ __ ] ass white boy sure I grew I I grow I grow up in the south so that explains a lot but like no I did Miyazaki and I found

14:47 out like that his father worked in a Navy like was an airplane maker for a World War two you his mother had his mother had spinal tuberculosis that's why she was in the hospital alive that does explain a lot about his fascination with aircraft that entirely explains the wind rises I mean every one of the what Phil doesn't feature flying yep anyways anyway so back on the topic of momma Hosoda whose fascination with families is definitely gonna be talked about on here speaking of families we're going to talk about the voice-acting family actually so um obviously none of us made predictions for this this is not one of those kind of dumb talk episodes this is we're gonna give you the cast list what

15:35 they've done and how we felt they did in the show so the show the movie now a mom's got an interesting tidbit for this first section here because first we're gonna start talking about the director and the scriptwriter the people who decided to take the beautiful Japanese audio and convert it into equally beautiful English so for this one our director is Funimation veteran and cool dad at the barbecue Mike McFarland and our scriptwriter is back and forth Texas and LA veteran and cool guy in the Dungeons & Dragons group Patrick sites now these guys are all over the place in terms of their work so far like if I give you some stuff that Mike's worked on I don't even think I have to because

16:21 you could point to almost any show on your shelf and he's probably directed at least one of them he directed the dub for attack on Titan he directed them for blood blockade Battlefront part of Hioki but most revelant to this discussion he directed the dubs for summer Wars and boiling the beasts so he has a lot of experience with adapting mamuro so does work too English likewise Patrick sites has done a lot of really good writing like he's probably best-known modern times for writing the script for an Ohana or for your lie in April but he also was the scriptwriter for summer Wars and boring the B so this is actually something we're gonna see quite a bit of and it turns out there's a reason for that come on you want to tell us a little bit about that yes if you get the at least the blu-ray for wolf children there's a

17:08 little commentary on there that Mike McFarland hosts and he mentions that he and Patrick were the director and scriptwriter on the dub for summer Wars and a fairly after that came out the Japanese side liked it so much that when Funimation got the rights to wolf children they were explicitly asked hey can you get the people who did the dub for summer Wars to do the dub for wolf children because we really liked their work and we'd like them to do it again and mm-hmm yeah that's really cool because I mean how many times do we get to hear the Japanese say like they like the English so much that they want to hear more of it all right by the way the answer is 13 13 these 13 things on my shelf record there you go so there you go please 13 I may be

17:56 missing some because I can't remember the directors off the top of my head but I first sure note 13 of them are 13 that's a skill like look at this people look at Megan here and aspire to be able to tell who an ADR director is off the top of your head by the way so how did you like their work on this movie in particular oh god I guess I'll go first cuz I'm already running my mouth and I think I've accidentally killed off on I'm alright he didn't drown in the river yet classy

18:44 if I'm not Andrew and you're not Andrew and he's not Andrew who is Klaw seeing this Spartan I'm gonna keep that in the final mix just so you can let that linger no I like I said I'm not super familiar with the works of his soda dubs except for summer Wars which is to date probably one of the best dubs I think Funimation's ever done for a feature film summer Wars has a lot of just is beautifully crafted as a dub and this also goes to this and it's such a dip please do not laugh at the turtle

19:30 phrase of about to use mm-hmm make no promises okay this is a different animal from Star Wars that gets a modest slow clap in that summer Wars is a movie that is very loud and energetic and upbeat with very little pockets of quiet obviously the biggest quiet scene being kind of one of the most one of the more memorable known things in Inked if you follow English dub actors if you know the story about what brina palencia was going through while she recorded a certain scene in summer words I don't want to spoil that if you've never seen some words because it's a fantastic movie but Mike McFarland and Patrick sites as a duo is

20:16 really good and it's kind of sad that it's only relegated to his soda movies because mike has a really great way of pushing actors to certain places and knowing them and knowing anime so well and Patrick sites has a really good way of writing very quietly dialog shows and very quietly dialog movies that have just the right punch that also feel really grounded because that's something that I really like about wolf children is that the dialogue and it seems very grounded even in its most surreal moments like when I guess it's like when you he's throwing up as a toddler mm-hmm and she doesn't know to take her to the

21:03 doctor or the vet and you just kind of see her standing out there and she was between two and she just gets on the pay phone and calls them both back and forth and like even in those moments it still seems super grounded and very full of heart which is really hard to do for some English dubs especially one that God did the double this come out like four years ago the premiere of it came out came out 2012 yeah oh so this is a six year old dub so a lot of the things that you were talking about but they've directed outside of his soda works they would go on to do after this oh yeah so it's show G that they had such a good foundation as a writer and director all right that's I mean I definitely agree on the

21:49 fact that it's really hard to pull off some of these parts because if you're going into this movie expecting the same like I said the loudness of summer Wars you're not going to get that because this is one of those movies that's a lot more quieter and contemplative and that's it's really hard to think like how would you translate that into English because you're not you don't have as much dialogue to work with but Patrick does really well because he he'd like punctuates the scenes with like mellow meditation like characters are kind of speaking what they're thinking or they're I'm pouring their hearts out to each other but he also gets like the everyday chatter portion of it right to their scenes where there's four or five characters kind of just bantering back and forth with each other and it sounds really natural like scenes where the characters were out in the what's it like the the farming community because

22:36 they move out to the farm or to the what they call the boonies at one point and a lot of the character of the farm characters is kind of banter back and forth to each other and it sounds really natural so props on Patrick for doing that and Mike's whole direction on this was that he does not over flood the actors with lots of like breath sounds or lots of unnecessary direction to like fill in the quiet parts he understands the parts where you're supposed to let the scenery speak for itself let the music the beautiful music speak for itself so and then so when we do get to hear the dialogue it like stands out a whole lot more so yeah full props to Mike and Patrick on this if this is the only mama and so did that you get to hear you're in for a

23:21 treat because it's one of the higher ones in terms of all anime movie dubs yeah you know I I agree I really enjoyed the direction of writing on this I'm sorry I'm recovering from a cold um yeah no no I'm all right um at a point I something the stuff reminds me of is um I like how sort of almost naturalistic it feels like you get anime dubs that like do they understand kind of draw attention to sell there they're an anime tub you know they have that style about them and I like the way that this plays a much more low-key and feels much more like I feel like you could put this on to the background and if you're not watching it you might assume this is like a live-action drama some sort yeah I mean siphon factor like if you

24:08 recognize the voice the voices of the voice actors and you've liked her them in there right before yeah I could agree that this would be almost mistaken for something that has no anime flavor to it yeah it's not like that in part because first a fantastic movie is it feels very like low-key and not like normal but like it is surprisingly unfor something who's instigating instant incident is a woman meeting a werewolf you know yeah you've a cat you would expect there to be a lot more mystical encounters wouldn't you you know and instead it's very much about like single mom trying to try to do right by your kids that's true did you have any like standout moments in the dub that like really grabbed you I mean the the bit the bit

24:58 after the bit after Hana finds out what's happened to her husband Costanza just for being heartbreaking and I think I think just I think just played very well as like not coming off as like melodramatic or histrionic or anything it is like it's played just right which I think particularly given the gravity of that scene is very important you know I own that I like the way the kids are done like they feel they feel a lot like actual little kids which is nice well we all have a lot to say yeah you know go I'll go into more about that when we're actually talking about them but like that also stood out to me like they sounded like they felt like actual children I don't think sometimes it's kind of hard for like adults to do

25:43 because there have been children in a long time if they're not around them very often it's like well what how do children act I don't know what especially writing them is kind of a very big pain and and again this is adaptive writing too so it's not like they're writing a new movie for them and I feel like this as a movie is probably one of the few anime that actually gets children right because I feel like anime as a general has these very strange views of children in that they're either precious angels or like Satan themselves I mean like look at series like as much as I enjoy who sake drops anime not the manga what manga there's no mom it's

26:29 just it was just a regular series with a couple of OVA s yeah but like like as much as I enjoy things like that and things like sweetness and lightening like even then the children written in that are 100 percent very like grounded and stuff and as they are kind of in the wolf children even though these are children that turn into little mongrels and chew up your furniture that is not I'm telling you that's not a wolf specific thing there are claw marks and bite marks on the furniture in my house that did not come from wolves way too

27:14 much credit but yeah go ahead yeah so I really liked how Patrick did that and then also the thing with note on bringing up the melodramatic things this is an anime movie that calls for that because there are some anime that call for like stuff to be very very like opaque fakey melodrama mm-hmm know that yeah that kind of swings back around to what a mom was saying with the this doesn't feel like it was written or directed by tobe and Anna so much because yeah it doesn't do that shoujo melodramatic thing it's probably best exemplified in the crime scenes which full props on the direction as well because there's the kind of crying that is you know it's like it's just

27:59 kind of weepy and then there's realistic crying which is unrestrained it's ugly like you can see the snot rolling down and you can hear in the voice that something is so wrong that it makes you sad as well they had a really a couple of really big moments of that in this movie and Mike directed it just in the right way that it matches the emotional beat they're going for I'm good so with that being said there were there were actors in this I believe there were there were voice actors in this that is the rumor I've heard as well wait you mean this wasn't dubbed my talking dogs well it was but unfortunately the

28:46 concept of a movie starring talking dogs would not be patented until this year with the movie Isle of Dogs which by the way you all should go see go see every Wes Anderson movie anyways so um we're gonna talk about obviously we're gonna talk about the main characters in a bit this movie is actually a little easier for us to talk about because there aren't a whole lot of characters worth talking about so we're gonna cross off a couple of the side characters just off the bat here I mean it's a two hour movie so you don't have room for a whole lot of characters but these two do stand out quite a bit we're going to talk about show hey Fuji who is a teen who becomes a contemporary of Yuki in the

29:32 last third of the movie and we're also gonna talk about grandma Neera sake who is the most adorable mo a man who you will ever see in your life and also kind of helps Hana when she's learning to live on the farm to actually grow stuff because if you can't grow stuff on a farm what are you doing there why are you living here get out you do not belong in Silverspoon go back to yours go back to your show oh wait that's flying wet whoopsies but the Opie's slung by the same artists yes they're both the first Oh Pete is Silverspoon and the opening of flying which are both Miwa songs hmm I don't have to believe you because I've only seen flying which I haven't actually seen No yeah it's on the list

30:17 yeah also be are you watching this season of my hero of course she sings the ending theme okay I was assuming you were gonna say that cuz if you were gonna say she sings the opening I'm like wow she's got quite the range no she's not she's better than overworld will ever be back on topic here so our two characters show hay and Grandpa Nero sake Joe hay is voiced by Jason la Brecht who has been around with the Funimation crew for quite a while and you have most definitely heard him in something before looking back on stuff him like a long time ago he was black cat in the show black cat his name is train no it's just black cat okay I know it I know it's

31:06 train but he's called but he's called number 13 he's called black cat he's got a couple of names got like seven names the sake of simplicity we're just gonna call him one name for you listeners out there there's a reason Megan's referencing a pimp called slip back and you have no idea what it was never understand wide so you will understand why when a certain set of V logs come out later this year it has nothing to do with the boondocks Oh something to do with something entirely different but speaking of pimps Jason labrats he has also played Chiharu in Megan's favorite series carnivàle he was and in

31:53 more recent stuff in case you've only been watching anime in the past couple of years he was um Kirito sua in orange and he was and this is a very hard name to pronounce but I might try yah haku's shun Dena in kata ho the right answer the alien guy with a big cube I don't know what's really funny about that guy and I'm only gonna do this because I love making Noah like cry okay okay fine a pin in that for now make a note here Lister's you okay you like to make me cry I'm about to make you cry

32:39 because grandpa Nero sake is voiced by Jerry Russell and called your tears in for this song he's been in quite a few shows before he was Shen in your Minh guns he was super ato in princess jellyfish he was too bull in Romeo and Juliet and he was general froy title in d.gray-man and if you know anything about Jerry Russell we have to give a big props to him because he unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago so props up to you man we love you Jerry once they get through the English cast they did I dedicate the dub in his memory it's true so speaking

33:26 of dedication Aman these two characters both Shohei and neuro sake do they make any impression for the parts that they're in yeah I enjoyed both of these characters I liked Jason as show hey if it's our show hey kind of fun just cuz he's kind of like entertained least forty I guess like he's this very like like he's this very like athletic guy but he's not like you know he's not sort of thick noxious meathead he's you know he spends this whole time trying to get it trying to get to know Yuki just because it seems like hey you seem cool how come you never want to talk like I just wanna that's why I hang out what gifts it is a hard fast rule for men that we want what we can't have

34:13 I sort of liked how he does this very like friendly energetic side to him but there's also a lot of there's a fair amount of the movie that kind of requires him to like slow down a little and be more a little more reserved a little quieter and it was I did like that you know he's not in the movie for very much obviously he's only gets introduced like last third or so Oh 10 when I was on screen however I really liked Jerry Russell as grandpa Neera sake I'm a sucker for grouchy old men because I am I'm on the slow road to being one anyway it's it's my people you're like 60 like 16 come on I'm almost 30 dude the kid go

35:06 sir Mike bean so Mike hot young Hollywood actor too like turning into Bill Murray or something like the remake of big that we never got that was Tom Hanks it was I know but still like I wouldn't I would be fine with turning into Bill Murray when I can hold turn [Music] yeah I like I like your sake I like I like I like that a grumpy old man with a soft spot you're actually you know kind of sweet soft-spoken people when they're not even grumpy and I like Jerry did he eat sounded very quintessentially like that guy who like has been around and there's no tolerance for for your ill-conceived attempts at farming but he's also gonna help you because he doesn't actually want you to like struggle he wants you to do well because

35:52 he's not actually a jerk yeah he likes you it's like here have some potatoes potatoes that way I would grow a lot of potatoes that way when other people's crops don't do so well they love food because you can get potatoes and get other things instead like giant radishes also be if you grow a lot of potatoes watch out for that strange brown haired girl with the military freak she likes yep the military finished don't steal them it's not a freaking attack on Titan reference shows I haven't seen before you could be referencing anything brawling I mean it could have been a [ __ ] jojo's reference no no joke we put a stop on Joe Joe's references for this episode fine

36:37 like do you put the stuff on time you know what go ahead have your go for it because his gruff and old and done

37:33 with your [ __ ] but he's also very maternal and fatherly and one of the scenes that sticks out in the movie for me actually is when he and hon are talking about how she's failed to grow stuff and she's smiling and he's like would you just knock that smile off your face you can wipe that [ __ ] dumbass [ __ ] potato [ __ ] sweet potato a [ __ ] russet potato a [ __ ] yellow potato for [ __ ] spuds at a seat the most [ __ ] I've ever heard put together the [ __ ] Rings future

38:18 Noah edit this part out anyways so no I genuinely enjoyed him in one of the other I think one of my other actual favorite lines in the movie is I guess he's around in a maze not at school and he goes thomas edison didn't notice [Laughter] like wait what see now that's like a really good use of the adaptive script because that could have come off as like unintentionally like I mean yeah like it's it's serious but it's also kind of a little bit of levity like it's the right level that we needed at that moment very much he does not change his

39:08 inflection absolutely see kids you cut school and you too could be a money moocher who rips off Tesla's ideas for your own profit oh boy I need to eat some words so if you've watched our Cardcaptor Sakura the clear card episode you will you will hear that I do not believe the Jason the breakfast could play teenagers I am wrong I am very wrong he plates show hey fantastically

39:53 he never sounded too old especially compared to his Yuki counterpart he had the right amount of just being a dumb little boy too which by the way protip gentleman when he want to get a girl like you don't tell her she smells like a dog conversation somewhere there's somewhere listening to this film like so that was my problem all these years okay also be because this is probably somebody else also be known you do not introduce yourself like a dog and stick your nose near wild side that is not what it means but but he really played show hey whoa and what are the aspects

40:39 of show hey that I genuinely enjoyed him playing the most is in the last arc of the movie during the rainstorm where he and Yuki are hiding out in the school because he doesn't want to go home because his mom he basically believes his mom's got a brand new daddy and is replacing him and it's such a quiet scene between him and Yuki too because that's also when he admits to knowing that she's been a wolf the whole time and just Jason nails it and that's like such a big moment to nail as an actor because that's the emotional crux not only for your character but it's the emotional crescendo for another character and if he's not at the same level as the

41:25 actress who is playing Yuki at that point it can really let like kind of drain part of the life out of a scene so I'm really sorry Jason if you've heard me say you were bad at playing teenagers ever because you're not um you were really great in this I'm sure he's got a dart board with your picture on it and he's just taking that off right now well Hotel California plays the background so I'm actually going to counter that a little bit because I have a mixed relationship with Jason's performances especially as teenagers because it's not that his timbre doesn't sound right he sounds okay like he's on the okay side of clearly adults trying to play kids in this movie we'll talk about it

42:11 different adult playing a kid in the label but it's always just acting like he's always acted kind of aloof in all of his roles and it's always made him seem like a little bit of a weird character even if the character he's playing is not actually supposed to be that way but that's okay for this role because Shohei is the new kid in school and he's he's kind of weird himself so Jason's natural acting just kind of fits it's it's just this kind of natural weirdness that Jason always brings I also said in the kado episode that that's what made his performance of an alien character just naturally fit and I don't know why he always sounds like that to me it's it's not the voice it's just acting I do it's also why his performance as yato

42:58 from noragami is so memorable is that a character who's not that that's a spirit in the spirit not sure he's a God but he's also a very kind of full of himself aloof wandering war deity trying to put on that he is actually a God of luck okay got a fortune or something if you I know you ever get an endless backlog but I feel like noragami is a show you would genuinely enjoy I'm sure by the end of the year I will have crossed at least that one off of the list so yeah so as far as Jason goes um I I know that they they weren't going to cast actual kids in this show in this movie because they just they don't seem to want to do that even for shows that have primarily

43:45 children characters in it like we talked about this a little bit in the / Rock'em on episode awhile ago that they just don't like to do that at Funimation and yeah you know what that's okay because not a whole lot of Studios do that Funimation is no exception so for what they got I think now um post is kind of the only one who goes and what what kind of productions have they've been doing that with like I is it I believe no they do it in your name they do it in your name they have a little girl they did it for my my miracle they do it kind of for I think this I can't say that one will hold off on that one I can't say one mystery show whoa no mystery movie I was trying to keep this but sure everything

44:33 the rescue so I say yeah for what so for casting adults for children Jason Jason did this one really well I think he's just naturally fits into it just because he's naturally sounds like a weirdo and I mean that in a high compliment I mean there's a high katham in Jason now as far as Jerry Russell's performance goes I love the fact that he not only has the most rural voice in the whole cast like he seems to have like the the most out of the city kind of voice but he also has the most phonetic acting out of all the characters he's very to the point with his voice all of his words are gruff and didactic but

45:19 that fits with his personality because while all the art characters are like talking about all of the things that this on the woods and I caught a snake and all the great things are going around me here like over-exaggerating obviously but no Jerry's performance by contrast is entirely didactic and to the point and that makes them not only stand out but it also serves as a vocal contrast that makes his character even more standout than all the other characters and that's why we specifically listed him in this discussion because you need this character who kind of fills a quota of masculinity that was missing for the middle of the movie and he does a good job in filling that in like our lead character of Hana is amazing but everyone needs a little bit of help and

46:04 it's a good thing that we got a little help from our friends here so we got today a foreign some Jerry I think also be something that the character does it I think he tells everybody else in the village to basically trade with her for potato well yeah I mean he tells he specifically tells them all to look out for her but that's not even special because he wants everyone to look out for one another yeah don't don't tell him that that he that they donated the fridge I just enjoy I just enjoy the fact that somebody just had an extra fridge in their garage it's like I look they have a redneck fridge because my family used to have a redneck fridge it was just an extra fridge in our garage that we had when we replaced our old one and like when I was a kid they would

46:51 just fill it with beer and ask me to run for one garage to the other beer I don't think that's specifically just a redneck like actually now I think about it Florida and Michigan are really far apart from each other but we had an extra fridge in our garage - it wasn't for beer specifically but it was for extra stuff out in the garage or like a lot of people down here do it to put like venison and and other like wild meat and my family's just from the north so well we saw here in it you know I'm sure if we were more of a beer-drinking family we probably was on - I'm sure my dad had some beer in there be more of a rose a man look for me or for him no for you no I'm more of a hard cider kind of guy I

47:37 pegged you as a Moscato man that's way off topic of the time on sitting here like back in my day I drank IPA beer I drank white cans that just said the word beer on it not a beer I want the beer and the beer for repo man yeah definitely exactly beer bread beer beer it gets you [ __ ] all right so I guess we've got a good thing to say about our actors here so let's move on to that's all the side characters from here on in it's all main characters and oh boy oh boy

48:24 keep your panties on girls even for the 50% of the men out there who aren't into wolf daddies it was still keep your panties on for this one wolf daddy 60% of the time all right wolf daddy you see a picture on the screen in front of you people that's right there is the guy who basically kick-starts of the whole movie and no we're not just going on wolf daddy because we're immature five-year-olds he does not actually have a credit today I'm not in the castle or or in the show itself they're in the movie itself he's never actually given a

49:10 name which is kind of and I think it's a little indicative in the writing of how much they thought about him as a character they're like okay we need to have kids in the movie so I'm pretty sure like they've shown a picture of his driver's license this for somebody out there could translate it if they know conscience they probably could I mean I think was a little blurry but yeah you can probably still shot the scene where they show his driver's license and translate that unless it unless it just translates to Oh commie son in which case I'll be like of course I mean I mean he's listed as a copy on a NN so it might well no I'll copy just means yes I know I know that's what communist means wolf it's like a sorry for sight engine it's like

49:56 somebody apparently for like one of the Thor movies blue Thor's driver's license and it says he lives on like 69 pig in spite of not having a name we definitely got a name for the actor who's playing him so for this masculine furriness we decided to go through the list of dilfs at the Funimation studio and we found the best one we found one mr. David Matranga that's what I said keep Payne's on ladies because you were definitely you have definitely heard David before he's played he loves to play handsome devilish male characters um he was day on day Baymont Inn Leigh Chevalier day on he was it went back to Megan's

50:43 favorite show he was a khari in carnival he is want to talk about manly characters he's Luke in Gaara vanishing line that dropped some panties mm-hmm and too rounded out for the normies out there because we have to list at least one character he played that was a father he was Tomoya in the Clannad series both the series and the movie second best dad in the movie the show only behind doggies is dead that is one of the greatest anime father's I can't disagree with you there dad I'm pregnant what an odd but that scene is a [ __ ] beautiful nest wait wait wait you're saying that they like made a wish of a fairy godparent right or they found it in a Cabbage Patch or something oh my

51:36 god fine fine fine okay all of you all of you listeners out there you you and you yes you we are letting make it off a leash for this one because we cannot talk about wolf children without getting to the topic of the fact well he was a Wolfman and she might have liked it on Christmas and they might have done it doggy style good it's all good we're mature about this by the way we're talking about Cato the right answer about a second way to go all right oh no what now so is it me or does the

52:21 lead guy you know this another David Matranga role that I enjoy oh no you're not gonna bring up brothers conflict are you oh no I'm going worse than brothers conflict okay let me be surprised watch one right answer look like the Alba that he was giving the Crowley [ __ ] - you're not wrong I tried to block dramatical murder out of my head but now that you reminded me no I guess I'll talk about it when it was tying and trying to purchase brain of that image all right yeah yeah Megan

53:09 you god it's such a shame that this Catholic there's a spoiler alert on this it's a shame this character dies as early as he doesn't because he dies like why thinking like the first half-hour yeah yeah what yeah once I'm a that's been conceived it's like well we don't need him anymore MA know what Tommy's been born he doesn't he dies when he's born you're right I'm sorry it's it's like a few months later my brother was born jump cut - it's raining outside and hey where's daddy and she finds a his wallet in a bag and she eventually finds his corpse as a wolf in the river and they they obviously she caught a can't say like that's my husband because then people are gonna be like [ __ ] what um excuse me lady protective service be like okay we have

53:56 a place for you kids but uh he kind of gets unceremoniously put into a dumpster and grinded into the trash yeah okay so what does that say about Davis performance though that it that it's a shame that it's not in the movie more because it was very well done it's very stuck that's one of the things that I'm very appreciative that they didn't do is make him have like a low raspy voice yeah he just sounded like a normal dude that turns into a wolf that makes some people happy in more ways than one and just it was also kind of sad because like a lot of the time that you see them spending together is in this montage

54:42 without any dialogue mm-hmm and he's such a it's such a good performance just for the little that's there and that's really hard to do for some people like a lot of especially you're already in a movie which has a very closed character arc to it and now you're even put into a smaller like character r2 and also one of my favorite things is at the very end of the movie where Hana sees him after she's been knocked the [ __ ] out mm-hmm and he says it's okay he's where he needs to be I've been watching over you while this whole time like a wolfy Mufasa that's all it's a little cheesy but it's a magical realism movie so yeah you kind of I mean if you're if you're here if you're looking for a realistic

55:27 depiction of that I wasn't looking for that I was just like okay my problem is that if I see magical realism I have to overthink the details of it think of it less as magical realism is more about fairy tale yeah I find that else yeah okay yeah urban fantasy is a better way to describe this now ahman did you also thoughts on Dave I really liked it I liked David for much the same reason that uh Maine did like I thought he was very he was good he was not he did not feel like these stereotypical voice you would give like a werewolf but he basically is um what's the stereotype of a werewolf voice rally yeah that like it's like okay he's big and burly he's a

56:13 wolf so he sounds like what a wolf will probably sound like a wolf could talk nice performance and he wasn't in there very much but I thought he just brought the right quality to this character he was like you know even like in the beginning when he's like kind of very deliberately avoiding talking to hona he's still like oh no a small child fell over I shall go help him up because I'm a nice guy that's how you know yes it's the terms divided character oh it is like you just like oh you fell over there you go.you by a small child don't trip again I can't believe our

56:58 mom's dead you have to go on without me the other ones not gonna be unmailed backordered till next week dang it well pick up the slack until he comes back David Matranga here's what I also agree that there's like this universal monster movie trope of having werewolves have a much raspier scary voice but David never dips into that as either in its human form or his wolf form which by the way we see him speak in both human and wolf form and he never changed his pitch between them which I'm glad they didn't do because he specifically makes a point to say that the legend the fairy tales about wolves changing under the full moon and eating people is is all stuff of myth and legend so the fact that he's

57:44 still got his normal voice in both forms really demonstrates that and also his character design as a human is really kind of normal like it's it's ragged but he doesn't look scary at all so they give him a voice that's a little rougher than his character design but it's just gruff enough without really conveying a sense of monstrous to it like he chose like a totally chilled hipster dude the only thing I'd say that I almost didn't quite tell me on it was that he has a bit of a confession it kind of explains to hona like I should probably tell you about this medical condition I've got and what he's expressing it to her it's a little cheesy the music kind of helps back that

58:31 up too because we get like these heavy swells of strings while he's admitting his backstory or about like this thing that he needs to confess to the person that he's in love with and it's a little cheesy in the acting and obviously so was the writing too but aside from that one moment he pulls off a lot of the really mellow contemplative moments really well and he's also like he conveys a lot of the heart especially like the part stood out to me the best was when Yuki is first born he and Hana are just thinking about what they want to be as parents the best that they want to give to their daughter and you buy that sense of sincerity that you you can feel from a first-time father speaking as one that was the part that really struck me because as I said I watched this movie after Oliver was born Ruby

59:19 had not been born yet but Oliver was so this kind of got me at like a real the effective part of my life when I just I'm still learning what being a father was like and I'm like the kind of got me and got me right here so David really helped in that transformation and to finish off this bit I just want to say definitively yes Wolfman does got nards well you know I love you me too now that we've covered the Wolfman we should probably talk about the wolf children and now now this is gonna be

1:00:08 the longest section if you've gotten this far into the episode thank you and also this will definitely be the longest section because what we're gonna do is we're actually going to talk about four different actresses here because even though we have only two wolf children ma and Yuki they are portrayed by two different voice actresses depending on what part of the movie that you see them in we see them with one set of voice actors in the in their child years and then we see a different set when they've entered into elementary school and to like there's like a time jump where there's a couple years older and they're like definitively voiced by different actors so let us cover them shall we let's knock that out of the way for young Yuki we have Laura Woodhall Laura

1:00:53 has been in a lot of productions such as Myka in a certain magical index she was Nina in overlord she is kasoori in shimoneta and one of Meghan's other pair shows he was hanami in Tokyo ghoul for a young ma now this is one where obviously we're not going to be able to get young boys to voice this so we have a young we have an actress voicing a young boy in this one we have one of my personal favorites actually we have Alison Victorian who has been around the block quite a few times to get an idea about the range that she's done before you have definitely heard her as cutie in space dandy you heard her as NAR in barakamon you heard her as shota in

1:01:38 dragon made which is another male character voiced by a female actress but all of you probably remember this character as Conan in the original Funimation dub of case closed now let's jump ahead a few years because now we're going to get into the teen versions of these characters team Yuki and also the one who does a lot of the narration for the movie so she's actually the first voice that we hear is played by the wonderful Jade Saxton who you all know so I don't have to list her credits but I will she is Sena in hug and I she is Mira in dimension W she's recce in re the scarlet mo and she is best most adorable cinnamon roll dragon Cano in Dragon made and who round out the

1:02:23 cast we have teen version of ami now since I'm a is 10 years old at this point in the movie we finally decided that let's get a male actor in this one and so to round out the cast for teen army we have Micah Seoul Assad who you have most definitely heard and stuff like soul and soul eater or Jonah in your man gunned or in more recent series in my hair macadamia he plays the hero best genus and he is smile in ping-pong to name a few now that's full list of characters and I supposed to break this up a little bit let's just start focusing on the two actors who play Yuki Laura and Jade am on are you alive yet yes I've had a cough drop excellent so Laura and Jade yep any thoughts on

1:03:12 them yes Missy I'll start with Laura I enjoyed a lot young Yuki looks like she was probably pretty fun play cuz she's this small energetic dog child it's running around and owling and tearing up the furniture exactly and a new complaint where she's a she's a werewolf baby what else was she gonna do and she's just she was just really fun to listen to just Jesus Tilly having a blast playing this character who's just you know Oh energetic all the time like I don't know if I think deeper to say to that but like he was just a delight to listen to she's been having so much fun and

1:03:57 there's so much pepin zeal my favorite part is when she's complaining like I want to go to school I want to go to school like kicking and screaming and then the next cutscene like negotiating stage like I promise I won't do I'll give fulcrum this was definitely the actor that reminded me of the most of Oliver for me because I've got these I've had those moments I've had the I want to go for a walk Oliver we I do I go for a walk Oliver it's time for I want to go for a

1:04:42 walk yeah I don't know I like I like Jada's well um I was I think she probably one of the tougher roles just because she has to be like me on and off narrator for most of the movie and then also like Blake character who has released concludes an arc I liked how she yeah I like she seemed to the one who had to do the lifting of like Yuki's transformation from their doing and doing a lot from kind of the conclusion of like you keep turning from somebody who is very very very energetic in tomboyish and just finding that like as she gets older like she kind of fits in a little better being a little more reserved not being into like bugs and so

1:05:29 on and then also ending coming into this relationship with um so hey we're like you know she finds it annoying but not stupid you know she ends up feeling kind of guilty and she injures in but that ends up becoming this friendship sort of [Music] exactly and just you know don't know culminates in the scene where like you know she reveals like you know yes you know she she reveals that she's well if he admits like yes you know I knew all along it's okay and it's just it's it's an a little bit I thought she just got about this nice so gentle is the character like you could still see the energetic child that this person came from but also like the way is that she's kind of matured and changed near since

1:06:16 then so that's a good comparison that the idea that you can see the bits of jade that were influenced by Laura like especially in the scenes where the teen verses of Yuki and ami are having like this kind of fight with each other over going back to school and she like Jade gets really into it and breaks that peaceful demeanor that she's been kind of masking up to that point yeah and that's that's the part that got me the most was like it's the most heartbreaking crying scene in the movie because she's like she's like you can see all these emotions about not knowing who exactly she wants to be being on the road to wanting to be a human more than a wolf but still having that those lingering doubts in her and I'll get

1:07:07 upset you yeah like I want to say about these characters about things about it it just how I particularly read the film so okay tell you what let's talk about that after we're done talking about the actors yeah I'll talk about after I talk about the actors okay all right so um like yeah I was saying like Jade really good props on sounding like an 11 year old girl actually like I know that's hard to do when you're not 11 but her her the voice that she gives to Yuki is still like believable as an 11 year old even if the writings a little more mature than a typical 11 year old but it's Depp and also she's got like tons of Peppin optimism throughout the whole thing and I also like the fact that she

1:07:55 kind of breaks up the difference between her narrator bits and the in movie bits because she gets a lot more phonetic when she's narrating the movie and then when she's actually acting like you can hear the the difference in pitch when she's talking to characters or when she's like contemplating was so hey what they're going to do if they were trapped at school Cecilia conceit obviously something's gonna come back for them but it's still like it's bearing a mentality that kind of gets into an 11-year old who is at a crossroads of her life and I've been saying all this about Jade because for Laura I have all just the good things to say about that and it's all wrapped up in how fussy and humorous she is laura is by far the funniest actor in the entire role like Jerry is great Laura it

1:08:41 just knocks it out of the park with every every bit of oh my gosh screaming and oh yeah the entire scene where they first move out to the countryside and she's like a being like this childlike awesomeness about I have no attention span I'm gonna go look at everything I love that so much so yeah Laura Jade really good job on the very different parts of this character I honestly would be totally fine if they decide to make a wolf Chiltern TV series where it's just Laura and like her adventures like there's like a side story of like she's got a new adventure every episode we're just talking about Laura right now right Laurie and Jackie yeah so yeah I'll

1:09:29 start with Laura because she's so precious and I feel like she really encapsulate like what a widt a weird little wild child is cuz like I can feel like like I could cut it like very much see like stupid crap I used to do as a child girl but I was also kind of an angry anxious little tomboy girl so yeah I had a lot of I'm a mixed in there too but for me what am I one of my favorite things is uh I guess when she's trying to convince the mom to let her go to school and it's around when they're trading the food and they're all like I think they say wow Hana

1:10:15 none of the board's attacked your yard [Laughter] and comes back around so it's implied that like a bear Yuki's been peeing around the cross yeah and that's like my favorite small detail in the movie and they just like don't overtly say it but like the look on his face together you need to always have somebody you can transition and I think I mentioned this

1:11:01 on the legend of the Galactic Heroes episode actually that that's another really good example of where they do that with young young but especially young care schiessen young Reinhard and they nailed it with Laura Woodhall of all people going into Jane Saxton because um and I thank you actually for bringing up of all people he to me from Tokyo ghoul because she is a soft-spoken character so it sells that Alison could match into I'm sorry Laura could match NC Jade and Jade could draw from Laura and Jade Jada's narrator I could actually a fun fun fact ice or some dumb reason thought alexis Tipton played a Yuki and in the first five minutes of

1:11:47 the movie she starts cutting narrating and I'm like why is electro stick to doing your best a sec stupid question oh wait that's just Saxton it's like wow that's a really good Jade Saxon it's okay Megan it's alright but no I like more than what they say and I kind of want to transition this into what kind of does dampen the movie for me a little bit and it's not any of these two performances but it is the fact that Yuki as a character kind of has to give up a lot of non-traditional girly things to fit in

1:12:32 and that kind of hurts as somebody who was not a traditional girly girl as a child I felt like okay I'm a like Yuki has to concede all of these things and especially juxtaposed to help I'm a axe later in the movie like I'm not gonna lie I'm a is kind of the worst character in the movie for me I'm sorry and you hear that I that did you hear that Megan that's the sound of nobody in the audience disagreeing with you that's why the scene with the bathtub hurt like the scene where they fight and she ends up in the bathtub crying to her eyes out hurts so much is because like for a lot of the movie it portrays ami and Yuki being very close yeah and that's kind of

1:13:22 what breaks them apart as a brother and sister also be the movie kind of like also painted that amazed getting picked on for being wild and that being wild doesn't get you any friends and well I'm gonna disagree with you on that a little bit we'll get to Emmy in just a bit but I don't think he was getting picked on because he was wild I think he was getting picked on because he was kind of more antisocial cuz you see his first like day going oh yeah he is kind of like always sitting away from people and Yuki's like shoving herself into conversation yeah and as someone who who who was very easygoing with people but also under I understand how easy it is to be made to be picked on because you're not as you're not as in tune with

1:14:09 social like it's not that you're not social set you don't you don't get other people all the time and then that makes you seem weird to other people that's something that I may seem to be going through quite a bit he didn't fit in with anyone and then that gave them leeway to pick on him which in turn made him even less likely to get along with anyone which is why he stopped going to school at byte second great third great no third grade yeah he like stops going to school at third grade and he learns from the this box and the and stuff but I guess can be useful to transition into Yuki I guess yeah that's actually what I think that's um a anyway sorry my bad you're right yeah I'm sorry yeah oh I guess I'll just start talking about ami then myself I would love to talk about my castle Asad more of this because this is probably this is actually something that

1:14:56 not on a commentary for wolf children that I know but actually for an origami commentary that I've watched is that his character in did you give roles for my good oh yeah yeah his character yuki nave in noragami is around the same age as almond and it pushes Micah's register very eyes and he had specifically mentioned that not since wolf children had he had to push himself to that register and it kind of sucks because older aimer

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