GLOBO DETONA IMIGRAÇÃO/INTERCÂMBIO À IRLANDA: O que eu penso sobre isso?

0:01 Globo Repórter had a show last week talking about Brazilian immigration, and boy, did they talk it down, huh? So, today we’re going to do a reaction video here. I want to make a few comments, especially about the part regarding Ireland. They went to interview Brazilians who left the country and had a rough time, and some of them were here in Ireland. So let’s watch the video together, and I’ll share some of my thoughts on all of this. Come with me. >> Good evening. >> Tonight's Globo Repórter shows stories of Brazilians who decided to seek a better life abroad and, for some reason , ended up coming home.

0:48 >> I talked to some of these Brazilians to investigate why the dream of immigration didn't go exactly as they had planned. Shall we talk about your story in Ireland? >> Let’s go, let's see. >> Brenda is from Coronel Fabriciano, a city in Minas Gerais in the Vale do Aço region with just over 100,000 inhabitants. It was from here that she left to live in Dublin, the Irish capital. >> She said Dublin, right? There are many people who like to say "Dublin," but we Brazilians, you know, we like to say " Dublin." >> Ireland is a country that doesn't have visa difficulties for Brazilians because you don't apply for a visa beforehand; you get the visa there.

1:34 I >> Yeah, many Brazilians really choose that ; they choose to come to Ireland because there isn't much bureaucracy to enter as an exchange student, right? >> I went as an English student because it's the easiest and cheapest way, right ? >> But in our conversation >> In other words, she was an English exchange student here, was, right? Here in Ireland. >> I discovered that this wasn't the only reason. >> I really like some movies, uh, that people even laugh a little at, which are romance films, one of which was filmed there and there’s another one called that was also filmed there. >> In the two years she lived in Ireland, she visited some of the movie settings.

2:20 But the reality she faced there wasn't romantic at all. >> I got scared, huh? I wonder what happened to her? After all, what happened here in Ireland wasn't romantic at all. Let’s see. >> When you are in Ireland to study English officially, what can you do in that condition and what can you not do? Can you work? >> You can, but by law, it's 20 hours a week, and 20 hours a week is impossible to survive on. >> And so, what did you do in the face of this situation? >> I always say this here on the channel. Officially, you can only work 20 hours a week, but companies, even the IRS, everyone turns a blind eye; many people

3:05 work more than 20 hours, right? What she means by surviving, actually, is that if you work the 20 hours, you'll be able to pay the bills and just break even. But if you want to travel a bit, if you want to enjoy life here in Ireland a little, you'll have to work more than 20 hours right? >> So we do what every Brazilian does, right? We find our own way. >> I wonder what her way is, huh? >> With a degree in International Relations and already fluent in English, she had to reduce her study hours and increase her daily work schedule.

3:51 >> I had two jobs, this restaurant for cleaning at first, and a second restaurant that was even a Michelin-starred one. Uh, there I was >> What do you do >> Besides >> the dishes, you stay inside the kitchen cleaning, carrying heavy things. So, we were the ones who polished everything, we were the ones who washed everything. >> In other words, she was here in Ireland as an English student and saw work in the restaurant industry as the way to survive here. >> In São Paulo, Luiz tells a story very similar to Brenda's. >> I have a college degree in commercial management, I hold a bachelor's in

4:38 administration, and a postgraduate degree in business. >> Wow, the guy is full of qualifications, huh? A lot of degrees, let's see how his life was here in Ireland. >> Before arriving in Ireland, he went through the Netherlands, England, and Scotland to learn English. He worked in exchange for room and board . >> He went with just a ticket and a dream. >> He must have done some volunteering here in Europe, right, to manage to get the experience of living abroad without having to spend a fortune. So, in exchange for accommodation there .

5:24 >> And for Ireland, it was December '23, or November, I really saw an opportunity, which is being able to study legally and work legally, even if it's for a limited number of hours. I really tried to follow the rule, but then I saw that 20 hours doesn't sustain you there. >> So he It doesn't sustain you, does it? Repeating, with 20 hours you can't splurge, you can't do the rest of the things you'd prefer to do. You would really just be at a subsistence level with 20 hours a week. >> He did the same thing as Brenda, got several jobs. >> I went to work in construction, >> I went to work as a cleaner, I worked as a KP, I worked as a bartender, a KP is a

6:11 kitchen assistant, a kitchen porter. It's the dishwasher, the one who cleans the kitchen at the end, scrubs the grease, the fryer. >> And your degrees and your postgraduate studies. >> They meant nothing. Over there, you're the flea on a stray dog. >> Guys, let's be real. The guy had a degree in commercial management, had a bunch of diplomas. But he didn't have English, he didn't know how to communicate. How could he use those degrees of his, whatever they may be, to work in his field if he couldn't communicate? So he had to have a job like that, either as a KP, a kitchen porter, or general hospitality work, something

6:58 where you don't need to strike up a conversation on a daily basis. Other than that, he'll have to work that way if he doesn't know how to communicate. Another thing, him saying he's a flea on a stray dog, man, he's already demeaning the profession itself. In other words, as we are already used to demeaning cleaning and hospitality jobs in Brazil, he felt demeaned doing this job here in Ireland. >> With two jobs, the earnings increased, but so did the income tax. >> You'll work two jobs, but you won't take

7:45 home both full salaries. >> Do you know what percentage is withheld at the source? >> Usually 40%from the second job. And then I said, look, there's no way, I'll have to go into delivery because of... >> Look, guys, this issue about the 40%is, I have to say, a complete lie. How does income tax work here in Ireland? Here, it's progressive. So the tax is 20%on your salary up to, nowadays, 44,000; next year that amount will increase. So, whatever is over 44,000 euros per year, they charge 40%. I doubt he was earning more than 44,000 euros per year.

8:32 And another thing, when he says that 40 %tax is deducted, it's on the amount above 44,000; in other words, if you earn 45,000 euros a year, only 1,000 euros is taxed at 40%. I mean, I don't know if it's lack of knowledge, if he didn't look at his own paychecks, or if William Bonner's statement here just implied that, uh, and he didn't correct the information. But that's not how income tax works here in Ireland. So, that information is wrong okay? That's the fact check for Globo right there. >> Delivery work is freelance money, and

9:19 you work as many hours as you wish. >> Gotta fill up to start the day. Almost midnight. Another goal reached. >> I started by renting an account because if you're not European or don't have a work sponsorship visa, you can't open a Deliveroo or Just Eat account, which are the companies there. >> This is true, you know, guys? If you want to work in delivery here in Ireland—you see a lot of people working delivery and such—you can't have a delivery account if you aren't European or don't have a residency visa here in Ireland. So, if you come as a student, you end up having to rent accounts from other people. Is it worth it?

10:05 I don't think so, but there are a lot of people who do it and like, you know, this job because it has a certain freedom of schedule and all that. >> And then you worked using the account and trusted the person, because your money stays in that person's account. Working in sub-zero temperatures, working in the rain 6 months of the year , working with three sweaters, two pairs of pants, heavy boots, and then at the end of a 12-hour day you're still soaked because nothing withstands all the water you take on. >> Did he come to Ireland thinking Ireland was a tropical country? That's what I want to know, too. Because, man, working delivery in Brazil is already something very complicated, I

10:53 imagine. São Paulo rains like crazy too right? So São Paulo has cold days, so I imagine it's very difficult to work delivery there. Here in Ireland, it must be 10 times worse right? So I don't think it's any surprise at all. Even I, who have never worked delivery, already imagine what the situation is like. >> Your hands go all white and frozen. Unfortunately, it's what you're going to go through if you—nobody tells you this on the internet, but you're going to live it. I think it's something to ponder before you go. >> Housing conditions are also difficult in Ireland's big cities.

11:38 Rent prices have increased, and often immigrants live in shared rooms. >> You're talking about a graph regarding rental prices. Rent here in Ireland is nothing new; rent really is expensive. And this housing crisis has been going on for years, for decades here. And also, guys, it's no news to anyone, right? Well, for no one who wants to come here. Everyone knows what the situation is like. >> In our first apartment, there were eight of us in a small place. Yeah, and it wasn't very cheap, because rents in Ireland aren't cheap. Nowadays , to have a room just for yourself, it's around 850, 900 euros, or even more. >> Have you been a target of any kind of discrimination, xenophobia, or anything

12:24 like that? >> No, not directly. There is currently a revolt from the Irish and from some people against delivery workers, because there are many illegal immigrants working in this type of job. >> Look, guys, there is a revolt from some of the Irish against delivery workers. It’s not because there are many illegal people working in delivery, no. There is an uprising from a certain group of teenagers who just want to cause trouble and see the delivery workers as the weakest link, so they want to attack them, you understand? So it’s not simply, "oh, it’s because

13:10 they’re illegal" or this or that. It’s because of these teenagers who want to create chaos and see delivery workers as an easy target. >> That idea that Ireland is a super welcoming country for foreigners, do you think it's changing right now? >> From 2024 onwards, it has changed. Not with the average Irish person, but with a specific group. >> Was your situation completely legal, 100 %legal? >> Legal in terms of my visa, yes. But as a delivery worker, I wasn't allowed to work, right? Obviously, I was working illegally. >> Yeah. Look at that, that's really true, isn't it? If you're a student, you can't work in

13:56 delivery. >> So was that what you were expecting there? >> I already knew. I already knew I would work in what we call the hospitality industry, right? Like customer service and so on. It was never a problem for me . Yeah, what was a problem for me is that you face many barriers as an immigrant. Immigrants aren't entitled to anything. >> Guys, look, these barriers she's talking about here are the barriers we mentioned regarding work. And the obligations you have to attend classes, to pay for immigration registration, and other things you need to do, right?

14:48 But what she says here about not being entitled to anything, that's nonsense, you know, because as an immigrant you are entitled to the vast majority of things if you have a residence visa, if you have a European passport, yes, you get it? Or a work visa, that's fine, but the real problem is that when you come as a student you have a series of things you need to follow and it ends up making your life here a bit difficult, right? >> If you don't have a European passport and you're not entitled to anything.

15:33 If you don't have a European passport, your life is horrible, really. >> At what point did you conclude that this wasn't working for you? >> I ended up getting injured and it was a headache because I didn't have any support from anyone at the restaurant. And I just had nothing I could do because if you don't work, you don't get paid. >> Yeah, here we earn by the hour, right? So if you don't go to work, you don't get paid. Now, if you, uh, are not working due to illness, then, depending on how long you've been working there, on the amount of time you've already been working in Ireland, you can apply for a benefit, like their version of Social Security,

16:19 that will pay you for the period you're away. >> And so, how am I going to pay rent? How am I going to pay for electricity? How am I going to eat? >> You will be treated in the best possible way and automatically you will receive first aid, follow-up care, depending on your case. But >> For free? >> No, you will have a bill at the end. An invoice will arrive later. >> And it was exact >> When you go to the hospital here in Ireland, you usually pay a fee to enter the hospital, which is 100 euros for admission, and then you have an amount that you pay per day, the daily rate.

17:10 But the thing is, something I find strange is that he said here in the report that he was a student. If he was a student, he probably had the government insurance that you are required to pay when you enroll in classes right? So, I don't know why he had to pay that entire bill. >> And it was exactly an accident that interrupted Luiz's life project. >> On a rainy Monday, it turned out I crashed the motorcycle and broke my acetabulum, my hip. I had to have hip surgery where the femur connects. >> That's why you have this, this support here right?

17:55 >> Yeah. So I had the surgery, spent a week hospitalized, had the operation, and got two plates and eight screws. Regardless of whether I was doing a side job that didn't limit me to 20 hours, I had insurance from the school as... >> Well, I mentioned insurance, huh? I mentioned it before seeing it. ... >> a student. And at that moment, there is no aid, insurance, or anything like that for those working in delivery. That doesn't exist. So I had to return to Brazil because there was no way to keep living there. >> Ah, so the insurance didn't cover it because he was working in delivery. Yeah , I don't know. Maybe the insurance has some exclusions regarding that, right? Maybe because he was performing a

18:40 high-risk activity, working in delivery . But I don't know what the situation was , you know? >> Back home, Luiz did the physical therapy he needed and recovered well from the accident. He's working with consulting for companies that want to improve their online sales. Go ahead. >> Look at that. The guy could have worked here in Ireland as a consultant too. With business consulting and such, or looked for a work visa in his field, right? What would it have taken? For him to know English, you know? If he knew English, he could be soaring here too. ... >> of living in Europe remains there, kept on hold.

19:26 But both Luiz and Brenda now have a different dream. >> Do you plan on doing something like this again for Ireland or some other country ? >> I said I'll only go back if it's under one condition: either I get a passport or I land a job and they grant me a work visa. I studied so much, my parents invested so much in my education. And I got there and saw that, you know, finding something beyond a restaurant job isn't easy. Not in Ireland. >> I came back. >> Man, what do you want to do? Look, honestly, your International Relations degree, if you don't know how to communicate in English, if you can't

20:11 communicate in other languages, it's worth nothing, get it? So, you can have the best degree, but if you don't know how to use it, it won't be worth anything. So, you have to have a role that fits your experience and your possibility of finding work, right? I don't know how people expect to arrive here in Ireland and quickly get into their own field. You're going to have to grind, right? I've already interviewed over 500 people here. For them to get an opportunity, they worked hard, they really hustled. >> Last September, it just hit one year.

20:58 Then people ask me, so what now? You've been there a year, do you prefer to continue here with the life you have or would you rather go back there? And I said, as a student, as an illegal , or as a volunteer, never again. >> Wow. Gonna cry here. >> And there are so many Brazilians in Ireland right professor? >> Right? There really are, aren't there? There are a lot of Brazilians in Ireland , quite a few. >> In Ireland specifically, there are many Brazilians. It's very easy to get a study visa in Ireland, which is apparently a study visa, but in practice , it ends up being a precarious work

21:44 visa, because people have to pay for English school, which is expensive, and they only have 20 hours a week to work. That doesn't support a person. There are Brazilians who have work visas, which is another type of visa. With this type of visa, which is very limited by the Irish state, those who have it get some rights . They get access to the healthcare system , some various social rights, and the time they remain there counts toward future naturalization. And they have this contract, and the curious thing is that the Brazilians who get these contracts are generally the poorer Brazilians who work in Brazil as slaughterhouse workers, meat cutters. Because it's a

22:32 Man, Ireland has dozens of professions on the critical skills list, which is where many Brazilians get work visas. It's not just the poorer ones, right, who get visas in factories, in slaughterhouses, and such. There are several areas where Brazilians can get a work visa. Now, areas that aren't interesting to Ireland in general are these humanities fields, you know? But look, engineering fields, IT, radiology slaughterhouses painting.

23:18 Man, there are many areas, there are many areas where a person can get a work visa. But those areas where, let's suppose, you'd need to work in a corporate environment or something like that, man , a work visa isn't going to come easily . It might happen, but not always. >> These have a working condition that is outside of the underground there. >> They arrive with a legal visa, they work , they have a small salary, but they have living conditions due to state assistance that end up being better than those of more qualified Brazilians who come seeking a student visa. >> Well, guys, that was the part about Ireland right?

24:03 And I think it's pretty obvious, right, things like that. First off, you won't arrive here already in the best profession or in your dream job, unless you are very good at your profession, you have a lot of experience , and you speak English. So, if you have all those requirements, you have a chance of arriving here already employed, and in 5 years you can apply for your naturalization, if the law that's about to be approved doesn't change. So, there is a way for you to achieve all of that, but it's not simple, it's not overnight.

24:55 If you come as a student with a plan to leave student life behind, get a future work visa, a future qualification that is actually useful for Ireland, you have a great chance of doing well here. But, oh, I have a degree in advertising and, man, I work in an office here, I have a postgraduate degree in sociology , I don't know what else. Dude, unfortunately, you won't get a work visa here just like that, you know ? So, you have to understand what the country needs and what is or isn't interesting for the country to grant you a work visa right?

25:45 Or even for companies here that, oh, a person has a degree in international relations, but if you don't have the experience that an Irishman with that degree has, there's no reason for them to hire you, when they can just hire the Irishman who already speaks English and already has the visa and everything. So, guys, it's complicated, right? Now, folks, I don't understand why Globo Repórter made this program, this report , in such a way, speaking so poorly of living outside the country, especially for those Brazilians who decide to take this step of leaving Brazil, right?

26:35 They should have first investigated why Brazilians make that decision. What does Brazil do that makes so many Brazilians leave their country, their comfort zone—so to speak—their jobs they're used to, their qualifications, and drop their diplomas to come here and actually work in cafes, work in restaurants, clean floors, and all that ? Why? Right? Because Brazil isn't providing opportunities for people, right? So, in the first place, they should investigate this and see what could be done so these people have more opportunities.

27:20 Because, really, we have a lot of good people living abroad, but most of them, if they had the chance to stay in Brazil , earn their money, and buy things without too many problems, most would choose to stay in Brazil, you know? So, Globo Repórter should do that kind of investigation so we could better understand and know, you know, why these Brazilians leave. And another thing we have to understand is that everything has a process, it's a step-by-step thing, it's something that happens day after day. You aren't going to arrive here as a student, with no English, and get your

28:07 work visa and your dream job the following week. Understand? So get that into your head, think carefully, because otherwise, you'll be just another frustrated person giving interviews back in Brazil and badmouthing Ireland. So that's it, guys. I hope you enjoyed this video. If you liked it, leave a like here, and if you're not subscribed , subscribe. Here on the clips channel, I'm going to do more reactions like this . So subscribe here too to be able to follow more videos like this, alright? A hug to you all. Bye-bye.