Godfrey CRASHES OUT After Caller Checks Him On Oyelowo Response

0:00 Look at her now. Now she wants to jump on David Oyelowo cuz she don't have [ __ ] nothing else to talk about. So she going to jump on my podcast, which is a dope ass podcast. And by the way, David Oyelowo has apologized, but British black people do not have a perspective of American blacks. >> been through all the arguments with ex-boyfriend, Nigerian, the whole nine. So I understand. >> Yeah, but I grew up First of all, I grew up in Chicago. >> We were we were a little surprised by your reaction. >> Look, I don't give a [ __ ] what you all would think. >> Well, it seems our guy Godfrey has had a roller coaster ride of positions in the past few months. We went from supporting him on this channel for some of his takes on the 154 podcast to criticizing

0:48 him for some of his later takes and everything in between. But this is a high water mark right here. Godfrey crashes out on a caller on his show when she confronts him about his disrespect of Karen Hunter, you know, political commenter. I've disagreed with Karen Hunter myself in the past, but Godfrey used to work with her and he called her out of her name. And also, his stance on the David Oyelowo incident, talking about the origins of the black Southern American accent. He even throws David Oyelowo under the bus. >> You have to understand. You guys are probably still listening to Karen. I All of us moved on. We didn't I wasn't talking about her. I didn't do none of

1:34 that. And And her whole thing about black unity, she's full of [ __ ] She is full of >> She has her thing in the context of >> Yeah, listen, but she's full of [ __ ] >> But interpersonally, interpersonally, there's a reason why she has a problem with everybody else. >> Well, she she she tricked me. And And how I got fired was some bull because I think I personally think my show was doing really well. It was and I know on the inside was like, you was doing really well. They had to find something to get you on. And I knew on some inside, which I ain't going to mention that person. And I was like, cool. Cuz I was kicking ass. Because the the the the the week before she fired me, I went to an advertising meeting

2:20 at Madison Square Garden. It was all the people that were going to sponsor me. And they said, "Well, what's your show about?" I came in that room and it was awesome. I had them rolling laughing. And then she fires me the next week. >> Now, I've heard this show on Sirius when it was on there. And Godfrey was good on the show. It's true. But the fact that you called her out her name, she's definitely taking umbrage to it. And she's using this opportunity to kind of get some traction on her channel or on her YouTube channel. And to also air her grievance against you. I don't understand why it makes you so mad, though. I don't understand why you're so turnt up about it in this moment that you would be rude to somebody that's calling in that's obviously a supporter of your channel. >> You know, but um her her saying that

3:07 Look at her now. Now she wants to jump on David Ayuelo cuz she don't have [ __ ] nothing else to talk about. So she going to jump on my podcast, which is a dope ass podcast. And by the way, David Ayuelo has apologized. But British black people do not have a perspective of American blacks. >> it. >> But the fact is >> What? >> the fact is that we these mistakes need to happen. So we can talk about it. So we can have people going, "Damn, I [ __ ] up." >> Yes, they definitely have to. But the person in their apology actually has to be sincere. And I would say from David's apology, he still kind of skirted around any fault on his own. He's like, he didn't intend that. But we're trying to tell him something totally different. And I think the pushback that Godfrey is facing, I don't think he understands, is

3:55 that people are wondering why he didn't say something in the moment, why he didn't challenge David. That's simply it. >> I think David probably didn't mean it that way, but the British black experience is so different than the black American experience. He probably was like, "No, it's a little subservient. They don't know any better. A lot of them just They just don't know any better." >> No, I'm sorry. >> us that. >> it's good that people Listen, hold up. >> It definitely sounded people [ __ ] I'm sorry. >> What did you say? >> It was wack, but I said I'm sorry, but it definitely sounded like some white people [ __ ] But, you know, I get it. He >> But what what But But what I'm saying is it's Yeah, that's what Where do you think they he They're colonized. This colon- It's colonial mentality. That's white people

4:40 That's what I'm trying [laughter] to say. >> Sure. >> people were responding because we appreciate the fact that, you know, although your heritage is Nigerian, listen, I've been through all the arguments with an ex-boyfriend, Nigerian, the whole nine. So, I understand. >> Yeah, but I grew up First of all, I grew up in Chicago. >> We were We were a little surprised by your reaction to >> Look, I don't give a what you all were thinking, cuz I did not I didn't call I didn't make him say that. I didn't say it. I didn't make him say that. So, all of that. Cuz you all sit there and try to pick at the smallest waiting for us to [ __ ] up. First of all, that Me and Akbar Akbar grew up in Crenshaw. Grew up in Crenshaw. All right, I grew up in Chicago. Some of the blackest cities around. Chicago's the most segregated city in this country.

5:26 So, I know what black Americans are like, because I was stopped by cops, harassed by cops, called [ __ ] the whole nine. Okay? So, I'm a >> Isn't that interesting how they always go to I got stopped by cops. I got pulled over. That That's the black experience. That's the black experience summed up. Now, I'm not saying that none of this didn't happen to Godfrey, but Godfrey, if some criticism is leveled at you, this is not the response to double down in anger to start railing at the person on the phone who's simply telling you what's happening. It sounds like you were totally unaware. It's not until the David Oyelowo situation went viral that anybody even noticed that something was wrong and what was said on the podcast. So now, instead of being the teacher in

6:12 this moment, Godfrey, cuz I know you're a veteran and you're normally in a position of power. How about you stop and listen for a second? Listen, you don't have to push back on everything because for some reason you think you're right. That's ego. That's That's hubris. And he knows that. He definitely knows that. >> a little bit different, but that show what what our show is it's it's just 9 10 months. We're doing really well. It's needed. There's not going Nothing's going to be perfect. So when someone goes, "I didn't like your reaction." You're not my parent, first off. And I'm the first person. If I [ __ ] up, I'll go, "Man, my bad." But David said it. David said it. So to a villainize me is bull [ __ ] That's That's black just trying to have a something to >> What?

6:57 >> See, what we're doing is we're trying to work out our kinks. People are traumatized. Black Americans are traumatized. >> Yeah. >> Caribbeans are traumatized. >> Yeah. >> Africans are traumatized. Everybody's traumatized. Black women are traumatized. Black men are traumatized. So this is all coming from trauma and this should be a therapeutic podcast. It should be a podcast where we go, "Hey, man, we [ __ ] up. We got We got to talk about these things." But to just go, "I'm disappointed." None of you [ __ ] are my parent. None of you. Nobody's perfect talking [ __ ] to me. >> So somebody has to be your parent in order to level any type of criticism for the situation. And the problematic part of the 154 podcast that nobody wants to say, this is supposed to be a therapeutic podcast according to Godfrey. The one problem is

7:44 you left out black Americans from the diaspora. But yet you every episode you talk about black Americans. Every clip that goes viral about this podcast is about black Americans. But black Americans are not included in this show. I can't name one black American guest, foundational black American guest that has been added to this show. And there's been a constant criticism going on here. It's like can can you take the message? Are you willing to take the message? Are you willing to listen? Or who care I mean hey, if you're not let it let it be known then. Cuz you know I'm saying there's people that are out here still trying to defend you. But if you think you know it all and you

8:29 you know, Mr. Black History then nobody can get in there to say anything contrary to what you're saying. And trust me I he's going to talk about it later. He's going to talk about his bonafides and what what what gives him the right to be talking about black history. But there are plenty of black people that are well informed on black history. You're not the only one. >> You do a podcast and do better then. But my thing is I'm doing this for the good of all of us to bridge a gap and and all this old you're a tether, you're a this you can eat a dick. I'm just not talking to you man. I'm just saying in the general. >> See. >> I mean eat a dick for real. You I'm a tether, I'm a this all these terms for a bunch of traumatized black folk. It's like first of all, I'm a very well read man when it comes to black life, very

9:16 well read. I've done mounds of of of going to see the minister Savior's Day all kinds of >> he always throws that out there. I met Francis Cress Welsing. I met all these people. Did you? Did you? I can question a lot of people on that. I spoken to Francis Cress Welsing. Absolutely. Now did I meet Stokely Carmichael? No. You're a little bit older than a lot of people out here, too, though. That's the other thing you're not really giving people credit for. >> I was in college at the same time. Let me just say real quick. Let me just say real quick. >> what I mean? If we If we're going to do a If we're going to do a measure on blackness, I'll probably stop most of you. >> And see, that's the problem. You're trying to measure your blackness. Why are you still trying to measure blackness? That's insecurity, unfortunately.

10:01 That means that you are not secure in your blackness. And so, you, in a probably a positive way, went out to seek knowledge about blackness. But, unfortunately, what it comes across as a lot of time is performance. It comes across as performing foundational Black American or performing to be an ally when we don't necessarily know what your intentions truly are. I've met Godfrey, you know what I'm saying? We used to go to commercial auditions. I used to see him at commercial auditions, but I don't know Godfrey. And I think that's what a lot of people are saying out here. That's why a lot of heat is being leveled at you. Now, this ain't no serious thing that you're being canceled because you didn't call David Oyelowo out. But, as the person in the room that

10:48 you said you have all this knowledge, the Frances Cress Welsing, hanging out with Farrakhan and Stokely Carmichael, reading all those books, you still didn't have the awareness to teach David in that moment. You're simply just throwing him under the bus and saying, "Yeah, well, he's British. He didn't know better." Really? He's a grown man, and he's been in America for the last 20 years, just about. It's not your responsibility, but I would say if you were a friend of his or an associate of his, it would be nice. And Godfrey later says he actually spoke to David after. >> First of all, I'm a very well-read man when it comes to black life. Very well-read. I've done mounds of of of going to see the

11:34 minister a savior's day all kinds of [ __ ] I met Stokely Carmichael. I met Francis Cress Welsing. I met all these people. Did you Did you I can question a lot of people on that. I'm blacker than you. >> same time. Let me just say real quick. Let me just say >> what I mean? We If we going to do a If we going to do a a measure on blackness, I'll probably stop most of you. IT'S NOT SENSITIVITY. IT'S ain't sensitivity. Don't [ __ ] ever say that to me. It's not sensitivity. It's passion because I'm on point. I'm not here I'm not here to make you like don't try to play good guy like you know you're getting sensitive. No, this is passionate and I'm I'm real about it. When people go oh you shouldn't have enough all of that. >> but what I'm trying to tell you is you putting me off Godfrey. I wasn't >> What did you say? >> She's not even on

12:19 He's criticizing somebody that's not even against him, right? This chick is trying to be She's a fan. She called into the show to tell him her thoughts and this is how she's treated. That's what he doesn't understand. I'm like you need to pump your brakes, man. You mean I'm real disrespectful on that call for no reason at all. >> You've always represented THAT. >> ALWAYS, BUT THEN YOU GET ONE LITTLE THING AND YOU GUYS VILLA ALL It's not like I speak up for black women. What do you think that does to me in this business when I'm speaking up for you guys? I speak up for you my all time. Most celebrities in judge in Hollywood don't say a goddamn thing about y'all. And I'm always opening my mouth for you guys. I try my best, but I

13:06 do one thing you guys just go off. OH OH LOOK >> All right. >> I'll forget he's a comedian. >> Dante >> [laughter] >> Can you >> God here. >> speak to this. I really was just trying to say that I was just surprised to be honest throughout the whole interview. I felt like you know I was with you guys because I felt like you was low-key side-eyeing him. So, I'm not saying I felt like >> Well, here's First of all, I don't even remember when he said that. >> And you weren't You really weren't even paying attention. >> I wasn't even paying attention. First of all, WE WERE HAVING FIRST OF ALL, THAT FIRST OF ALL, THE INTERVIEW was fantastic. We were having fun. >> I think we were like, "I said, what did David say?" >> But I'm going to tell you something. I watched it and I know like you don't you I could

13:51 always tell when you not there. >> Yes. >> You was zoned the [ __ ] out. You were holding the the cards and you were just reading off and it went through He when he said you bring it little >> But that was Godfrey's segment. That literally was Godfrey's segment. The The one about doing voices. Like at the end of the show. So, what are we talking about? Like how are you not present in there? I mean, honestly, it did. It probably looked like he was a little exhausted cuz he's flying back and forth to the West Coast to do the damn podcast. If that's the case, then say that. Say that you're exhausted. Say that you went crazy. You went too hard or whatever. But instead, he's going to double down on this righteous path and it's like

14:37 All right. I would say if you have such a pristine record, it shouldn't be nothing for you to be like, "Man, that was my bad. I totally didn't even realize that." But no, you're getting angry. You're getting pissed off at somebody who's actually trying to be an ally to you in the moment. And so much so that you got to drag her up on the call. >> Servians and East But you got to understand something. We get this I like I've I've gotten this from Haitian people. I've got this from Caribbean people. How about this? People talk I'm FBA and I get it from FBAs because I'm light-skinned. So, what we're talking about is is overall black trauma that

15:23 on it and we're always ready >> You're the Dante's FBA, too. So, he he Godfrey conveniently leaves out the part where there was a whole FBA conversation. And he said, "Ha ha ha ha ha ha." "I I don't want to hit FBA. Ha, don't worry about them." He actually says that to David. Are you just going to brush over that? And literally you got somebody that's FBA in the room with you right there that literally said they're FBA? It's crazy. See, we just don't like to be written off. And I think a lot of times what happen is just like in this situation, Godfrey is positioning himself above the normal black community.

16:10 Right? He's pushing it He's putting himself above. He's like, "I studied this. I was at Savior's Day. I was with Francis Cress Welsing." You see what I'm saying? So, I'm blacker than you. Measuring blackness is never going to work in this situation. If you are a true ally, and y'all need to stop with the narrative that FBA is some kind of cult or something. People, it is what it is. It is a lineage. People are choosing to go by it, and that is their right. End of discussion. End of discussion. >> Like I said, it's like I said, David Ayewole, the fact that you all are going to >> hold on to that [ __ ] First of all, David, he's going to This is David is

16:55 getting like dragged, which is good. Like you [ __ ] up, and this is good. But to come at me, I'm like, "Oh, man." And first of all, David Ayewole, when he did Mount Martin Luther King, he raised money for that. They didn't He busted his ass to It took him 7 years to make that. And he hired nothing but African Americans. He hired Common, right? Who played Mosab remember Mos Def? But Common played Mos Def's father, who was with Dr. King. He hired a lot of African-Americans. Now he has a a platform called Mansa with Nate Parker, who's black American. >> Yeah. >> He's He's literally hiring and putting people to work, but I mean he We stand on >> Could he do more? Absolutely.

17:41 With With the position that he's been given in Hollywood because of his Britishness, I'm just going to say it. You could absolutely do a lot more. And I'm not Like I said, I'm not privy to everything he's done, but it is what it is. Like it's obviously not a passion of his. He was far more passionate when he was talking about the projects he was doing in Nigeria than anything he was doing on Mansa. And some people have been even critical of the stuff that's going on to Mansa. We could all do more. Obviously, nobody's perfect. But when there's some criticism levied at you, you can't be like well, I'm this big humanitarian and I've done all this stuff for black Americans because like you would be You wouldn't have to even ask the question. It would be very

18:27 clear that that is what you have done with your career and with your influence. >> On the sideline, we do nothing and then we criticize everything that black people do. >> But on the same on the same sense, this is the a white supremacy society that turns us against because they do give these parts to British black British >> Yeah. >> actors because they are the same way There's no way in the world Barack O- They would have let Barack Obama run for the president if he was African-American because there's a class system that says that African-Americans are at the bottom of the class system. They will not let the They need to hold us. When you talk about patriotic

19:15 assimilation, what it PART OF PATRIOTIC assimilation is is assimilating into the racism against African-Americans. >> They said just because you're gay, you don't have to sit gay. >> [laughter] >> That [ __ ] >> There you go. >> No, I'm not much better. >> really funny. I'm dumb. He pulls [laughter] his leg. He does that little yoga move. >> I'm as gay as I can sit as gay as I can and still do [ __ ] [laughter] >> But if >> Either way, like I said, I'm not like screaming, but I'm saying I'm okay being passionate like this because I just Karen is trying to jump off on cuz all the podcasting she was talking [ __ ] about she's trying to do the podcast move like let me dog Godfrey bubba and I and when someone said apologize Karen, I haven't talked to her in 6 years. >> He was at the C, right?

20:00 >> Yeah, all that. Let's see what it says. They definitely need our culture. Fix the issues in Africa before you speak on anybody being divisive. But that doesn't even make sense. Let me say Prince West 60. Fix the issues in Africa. How do I do that? That doesn't even make sense. >> They are lighting him up in them comments. Yeah, I think if I can make a suggestion, the 154 podcast, since it's going to be African centered and it's going to have a guest from an African country or I guess the children of African immigrants in America, can we make it about Africa? There's a lot of issues that are going on in Africa that are not spoken about in the public. But for some reason this

20:46 podcast always ends back around to black Americans you from the south uh their accent has some sub type of subservience in it or like you know, there there's all types of other non-related non-African things. And maybe maybe it's just you all don't know what's going on in Africa. But this is when you pick up a newspaper. This is when you start doing research. So you can talk about some of those issues and actually impact the continent that you hail from. Give us a break. Give Black Americans a break. For 1 week. >> Boy. >> They never make >> That don't make sense. That makes up fix the issues in Africa. Are you are you you either you're white or you're black or you're just trying to

21:32 be deflective, but that don't even [ __ ] make sense. What we're what do you think we're all trying to do? Everybody's trying to do something. So you're a boy for that. Eat [clears throat] a dick, yo. >> I'm a son >> [laughter] >> Everybody's got it. Why you do the freaks thing? >> I paid to see Vanilla Ice. >> Yeah, [laughter] it's all right. >> You want to >> See him do the running man. >> Anyway, sounds like Godfrey's got a little soul searching to do uh to determine whether or not he is actually an ally to the Black Americans. He's always said he was. It takes more than just reading about the culture but still putting your putting your hands up in rebuke. If Black Americans said that they're foundational Black Americans, I don't

22:18 see why anybody should have a problem with it. Unless of course that takes away something from you and you feel threatened by it. That's the biggest conversation that's happening out here and I think it's coming to a head and we're trying to see who is allies. Who really wants to advocate for Black Americans and our struggles. And who just wants to profit off of Black Americans. That's the question we need to ask. That's the question going forward. Not necessarily is Godfrey profiting off the black community. But purporting yourself to be some type of expert in the black community and then not being there when we need

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