HİZMETHAREKETİ GÖRÜCÜYE ÇIKIYOR.

0:02 Well, dear friends, since I don't know where in the world you are watching from, first of all, good day for us here, good evening, good night for America. Perhaps these hours are just the right time for the sun to rise for the new day that is about to dawn for Türkiye. Let's start our program by wishing you a good morning . The people who will see me for the first time on YouTube, who will watch it today or later, will watch the taped broadcast, or rather the broadcasted version of it. They may wonder who this guy is and why he created a YouTube channel and why he is talking . Those who know me already know me, but let me say something for those who don't . Well, yes, my life began in 1967 in the Çaycuma district of Zonguldak.

0:47 But after high school, Ankara, after military school, abroad, and then again Türkiye, and I considered this process a great blessing and a means of service for myself in the last part of my life. Journalists and Writers Foundation, the work we have done in the Culture and Arts department there, our organizations within the art world, our acquaintances with artists and our witnessing of the togetherness of artists with our elders, what we have heard, of course, there is a very serious attack campaign focused on the community right now, so very serious issues are being discussed inside these days. So, I wanted to

1:34 share with you what I witnessed during that past period . Well, I wanted to tell these testimonies, some of which I know and some of which many people know because I have shared them in some places, live and from my own mouth, once again on my own channel, so that they can remain as a document in history. I had thought and planned to write these a lot . I took notes. I have such serious notes. Well, those who sit down and write know very well . I envy them so much. Well, it is a very difficult and patience-requiring process. Well, unfortunately I have n't been able to achieve this very much in my life. Well, as you know, my dear brother, my elder teacher Harun Tokak, whom we met during his term as the chairman of the Foundation of Journalists and Writers and with whom we met closely afterwards, is

2:25 a productive brother in this regard. He also gave me writings like this from time to time to encourage me. Just take a look at this. Those writings that came out of my perfect pen. I too, eee, accepted what he said as an order and did something like that to him. He always wanted to excite me and get me pumped up by saying "you did this, you did that" but unfortunately I couldn't do it. Talking is an easier way for me. Of course, it's very difficult for me to talk these days. Well, it's not difficult to speak under pressure from someone . Well, it's hard to talk because I have trouble sitting. Well, it's hard to talk because I can't stay in a certain position for a long time . As you know, I have been struggling with a very serious illness lately . I hope this process

3:11 continues. Well, if you pray and the delivery on July 16 goes well, we will have another 13 months of peace . Those who follow the course of the disease know very well that the tests to be performed every 3 months in the first 6 months are very important in this sense . I'm in this process now too . Hopefully I was resting at home . So, our house already has only one tiny room. We decorated that room like this and made it ready for broadcast with our friends who are experts in this field, and from today onwards, God willing, I will be with you from time to time. I will definitely see you once a week. That's what I plan to do. God willing and my health permitting. It could be twice a week, it depends on how things

4:00 are forming in my mind. And hopefully it will also make me feel a little more healthy and fit . Well, of course, right at the beginning of the program, we named it the Chair of the Heart. As you know, there is nothing written or drawn about them actually. I had to make this broadcast through a program so that it would be more professional, like text would appear on the screen, there would be text bars underneath, he's talking about this right now, there would be a logo in the corner, etc., but this is not a television channel . This is my humble, tiny YouTube channel, just like my home. So, let's have friendly and pleasant conversations from here . You know that the name of this program is the chair of the heart. Why the

4:46 chair of the heart? Because he is our life, our one and only, our precious one, may God have abundant mercy on him, our elder. Let everyone have a chair in your heart where they can sit. So have a chair in your heart for everyone to sit in. In fact, one day, when a friend of ours said something like this or wrote something like that, such texts would appear on the screen where he was sitting . Well, teacher, when I mentioned two names that could be very beneficial, such as "is this and that person in this and that person?", he says, "I told you that everyone would have a chair that you could sit in, but I didn't say anything about which one you would sit in the front and which one you would sit in the back ." So place it wherever you want in your heart. Well, it means you don't need to sit in the front. But

5:32 everyone should find a place to sit, a chair in your heart, he says. Let us also make this statement public, make it the crown of our hearts, and hopefully prepare a chair that will make everyone sit in our hearts . The name of our program today, or rather the name we will give to our program in our future programs, is the Chair of Heart. Welcome to your chair. Sir, welcome to my heart. Dear friends, the Journalists and Writers Foundation may of course mean something in an institutional sense, but since it is a foundation that is seen as being at the forefront of the community and service movement, it was one of

6:19 our aims and goals at that time to carry out all the organizations held there in accordance with the main philosophy and principle of our service . We have already received advice and ideas from him on this subject from time to time when we visited him and shared information about our organizations. The excitement we see there when we convey our activities to him is actually one of the driving forces and motivations for us . But you know very well that when Master Bediuzzaman describes the problem humanity is facing, he lists three main reasons. In fact, this is the basic starting point of the service. What is one of them? One of them is slander. For example, right now, in the issue of what we call divisions, incredible chasms have formed again. Society

7:04 is divided into different segments. As you know, this has been implemented in Türkiye for many years. Before the September 12 period, right and left, after the September 12 period, Islam, secularism, Muslim, Kemalist segment, secular and so on, Sunnism, Alevism and so on, touching the nerves of society, divisions, polarizations have always been experienced in Türkiye and are still being experienced. It is already happening very clearly. Of course, divisions, separations, are a very important human problem. So how can we eliminate these divisions ? People tend to fall for this if they don't know people or, more accurately, if they don't know much about you . Now, when

7:51 people know me, they also know my relationship with the community or the service movement . Well, a sentence like this. Most of you have heard this all the time. You hear it more from your close relatives or people you are very close to. Either you are different, I mean you are not like them. There is a mass called them, but even though you seem like one of them, you are different. You are someone else. Why does he say that? Because he knows you, he knows you. He knows your heart, your soul. He knows your thoughts about goodness. He knows your thoughts about cooperation. He knows how far he can turn his back on you . Now, when this is the case, you are saying that if people get to know each other, come together, find things to chat about, talk about, and share, other

8:37 elements, that is, other things that are said about them, will not have as much of an impact as those who want to divide them would like. Then you will have a dialogue. What is the dialogue? You will bring people together and make them talk. You remember, I'll talk about time here. In this sense, Aban meetings are one of the most special organizations held in Türkiye. How did he become its source and planner, what did he do? I will convey that process to you from here . But we have put it in history as a historical document that the opposite poles of the society, which was said to never come together in the Aban meetings , came together, talked about an issue, discussed an issue,

9:22 made some decisions by majority vote even if not unanimously, and as a final declaration, whatever was done that week or month was published regarding the subject under discussion. This was accomplished by the Hizmet Movement, the Community, and the Journalists and Writers Foundation . You may remember that when the first Ablantı meeting was held, the issue of Islam and secularism was discussed. When the issue of Islam and secularism was discussed, people from completely different poles in the hall, that is, people who would say A to someone else would say B, came together. They gathered. I think it took 3 days, 4 days or it was the morning of the 3rd day that the declaration was published.

10:08 I can't remember exactly now, but you can find out by searching on the internet. a final statement is published. So what we call discord , what we call separation, is when you bring together different segments of society, people who can have breakfast, lunch, maybe a short walk outside, but also in the hall, discuss the issue in a civilized manner, without fighting, without getting bogged down in the same issues, and issue a final declaration . Two poverty necessities. It talks about the importance of reaching out to the poor, the needy, the starving. How will we eliminate this in order to solve the problems that humanity faces ? It

10:54 may not be possible to eliminate it, but what will we do to this wound ? What should we do? What do you do as a service movement? You are organizing a community outreach organization. You are establishing an association. "Is there anyone there?" was one of them . You can count dozens of organizations similar to this. Nowadays, when I say nowadays, I mean when you look at the buddy movement led by Halü ​​Levent, which has been very popular for a long time, or before it was covered in corruption allegations, remember when the lighthouse was launched, led by Uğur and Uğur Aslan, and before it got involved in corruption, it signed incredibly beautiful and magnificent projects, and you, as a community,

11:42 are organizing a charity organization as a service movement and you are trying to reach all over the world with it. You see, there is an earthquake in Myanmar, in Fans, in the meantime, there is an earthquake in some areas, or people have been exposed to a tsunami, or they have not been able to have eye surgery, cataract surgeries, or they have opened water wells in areas devastated by drought, etc. No one has this already. Our friends who have followed Yokmun's organizations know this very well. We said that we had a dialogue about the divisions . We fought to eliminate the problems associated with cooperation. Then the third one, wait a minute, I didn't think of it. Education is ignorance. You say that ignorance is one of the

12:28 biggest problems facing this society, or rather humanity . So how do you eliminate ignorance? What the main mass of the service movement focuses on is education. You can eliminate ignorance with education. What will you do then? You will start from kindergarten, right from childhood. nurseries. In fact, our nursery, or rather the service movement, did not focus much on the nursery issue. This is perhaps one of the issues that you hear the biggest problems with in America today . Because, as you know, in America and all over the world, it is very difficult to support a family with only one person working, so the parents have to work. So, you want to entrust your child, your baby, to a place where you can take care of him/her and where he/she can also receive material and spiritual benefits

13:15 . But if there is no such thing, you are truly left in despair. In the past, we had more opportunities to be together with our elders, mothers, grandmothers and great-grandmothers . But for our friends abroad, if there is no such opportunity, the need for such a place is of course very serious . But when we say education, it is not just a matter of Küreş Kindergarten . starting from primary school, now middle school, high school and even university, eee study centers, language centers, university preparation training centers, you know, eee at the point where this terrible process started, first of all, you may remember, a process had begun in Türkiye regarding the closure of university preparation courses, university preparation courses . I don't

14:02 want to go into the political events that happened in the past, but why am I trying to explain all of this in one breath ? I'm trying to explain this. One of the main reasons underlying the establishment of the Journalists and Writers Foundation, and also the most important one, is to establish these dialogues, to reach out to different segments and to say “ we are in” or “this one is in” or “ this one is in”. Let's meet, get together and talk. We have many one-on-ones. Let's create environments where we can talk about each other, even our differences, by highlighting our common points . For this reason, the Journalists and Writers Foundation announced its existence to the society at a Dedeman meeting on June 29, 1994.

14:50 So he held the opening meeting. The photographs from that opening meeting were taken because I was not working at the Journalists and Writers Foundation under those conditions, so I did not attend that meeting. I was not a witness to that meeting, but you will all remember the photograph that stands out in the photographs . Those who don't remember can still find this photo on the internet . Well, a photograph of Hoca Effendi sitting with Kasım Gülek, eee, and Cem Karaca . I know that Ali Coşku later worked as a minister there. I think he is the Minister of Industry and Trade. eee The Journalists and Writers Foundation was introduced as an official institution with its own identity at an opening meeting in Dedeman, attended by many people, including the late Muhsin President. There has been

15:40 no serious activity since then. Until 1995 passed. In 1995, the idea of ​​giving awards to prominent members of society who embraced people in the sense of tolerance, mutual coming together, dialogue, and acceptance of different segments of society was born and I remember the date was January 5, 1996, at the Çığan Palace. I may not remember exactly, but that's how I remember January 5th. tolerance awards are given. In these tolerance awards, a photograph that you will remember very well is presented to the public once again. That is a photograph of Professor Doctor Toktdamış Ateş Hoca, who stands before the society with his secular, Kemalist identity

16:28 and is loved, respected and valued by this segment, and Fethullah Gülhan Hoca Efendi holding hands . It is the most talked about and newspapers make headlines or write articles about it. Here, Ataturkist Hodja and Fethullah Hodja are hand in hand. What was Toktlamış Hodja doing at that meeting? Nowadays, Toktamış Hoca, who can easily manipulate everyone and for some reason never leaves anyone untouched, together with Abdurrahman Dilipak and Toktamış Hoca, these two

17:14 individuals who seem to be on opposite ends of the spectrum, are bringing a television program to life and are producing a television program in an extremely respectful and highly respectful manner. See, you value it. Because you are giving it an award because it is a program that is compatible with the philosophy you are trying to create. You give an award to Müjdat Gezen for a TV series, a role, a program he did because he supports a segment of society for work related to people with disabilities, and so on. So what is your purpose in giving out awards? You give awards to some people and works that contribute and support your main philosophy, and

18:00 now the community has come to the fore with the tolerance awards. It's coming out. He says we are here. Now people perceive it like this. If it can bring together so many colorful and beautiful people and organize an event with them, this is an important power. People began to value him . Because, look, that process has escalated again these days. Do you know which process escalated? This polarization and separation between different segments of society has escalated. He climbed to the top . Now, when someone from a different segment of society asks me to come, a television program tells me that I will not come out. Or the channels do such propagandist things. When that channel invites someone, the person doesn't even hear their voice.

18:46 That was also the case under the circumstances of that day. In other words, if a person with a certain identity is from a different segment of society and you ask if you can meet with them, they do not accept you. I'll tell you now. As I said, I am a person who was born and raised in a district of Zonguldak. I also finished high school there. Thank God, I studied at a primary school called Kuttaş Primary School. At that time, my primary school teacher passed away. Well, she was not a religious woman, but I owe so much to her that I loved her very much. Of course, when I was in public school in Ankara, er, when I was in military school, I was also exiled there. He was assigned to a school in Topraklık where children with special education needs were educated. There was the Progressive Women's Association. It was a very serious left organization at that time. He was its president and all that.

19:35 He devoted his life to leftism and communism. It's so incredible, what do they say? She was an idealistic woman. She was a case woman. So, he taught me a lot. So, if I can use crochet needles today, it is thanks to her. Because he taught us incredibly beautiful things in primary school. In other words, He prepared us for life to the fullest. If there is a poet, I would like God to show mercy to him . So he was not just my teacher, he was the teacher of thousands of children and he told all of them very nice things. He didn't try to instill much in us in an ideological sense. Anyway, I have conveyed it of the record. Well, of course, in a district like this, my high school years were incredibly good, too. So, I am both a physical education teacher and an art teacher there. Both are ladies and alive. May God grant them both peace.

20:21 They raised us so well that there is a saying, "to love to love and to hate to hate ." Even Bob Marley had a saying. He uses the phrase, "The world could have been beautiful, but people chose to hate rather than love ." When I say "he/she used it" or "he/she uses it", I don't mean to say it as if I've heard it. Now this is a very amazing observation. They are the people who teach us to truly love and hate hate. Of course, we are folk dance teachers and physical education teachers, but our district was a very lively place in that sense. I learned about theater, sketches, performing etc. during that period. If I have such comfortable social skills, may God be pleased with them. It

21:06 is thanks to them. Anyway, I won't make it longer. The Journalists and Writers Foundation was established and tolerance awards were given at the meeting I mentioned . After returning from Kazakhstan in 1994, I was making some programs on television, on Samanyolu television. I read the afternoon news first then. Then a program called Tatil Sevici was made. Then, we prepared a program together with our very valuable friend Chat Cihat Zafer, who is called Telve, may God bless his soul, very intelligent, talented, and whose intellectual level is much higher than all of ours. I appeared on stage in five episodes. More accurately, I appeared on the screen . After that I withdrew from the program, but he continued. At that time, we were receiving guests and

21:52 talking in a coffee house setting . I received a call from journalists and writers about such programs on Samanyo TV. The president at that time is now miles away and has become a person who talks about all sorts of things about service. But the president of the foundation when it was founded called me at that time. Then we met. Well, we met in Altunizade and I started the Journalists and Journalists Foundation . When I first started, well, I started as the assistant of Professor Mim Kemal Öken, who was also in life. The culture and arts department did not exist as such back then. Well, we had a friend , a young friend. Well, may God give you peace. May Allah be pleased with him forever

22:37 . He tried to do something about those artists and prepared lists. He even met his namesake, Halit Refi, and became friends. Well, he started meeting with her and so on, but he also collected some lists from all the art organizations . They invited me. I started as Mülkem Ökö's assistant with Professor Milk Kemal Öke. At that time, I think the American Consulate and the American Library were still on İstiklal Street. We go there every day. There he makes me make photocopies etc. a very close, very polite, very decent gentleman. Well, you all know him already. I mean, as a human being, he has a gentlemanly personality. Well, it's a great pen. Well, he writes and draws good things. Well,

23:23 his dialogue with people is really good. Meeting with different segments of society and so on. I won't make it longer. I started as his assistant. Well, I really liked that title back then. So there was a department called culture or international relations in the foundation at that time. I am also the Vice President of the International Relations Department. He is also the Head of the International Relations Department. Um Kemal Hoca at that time. Anyway. Well, such an intellectual conversation started with our elder in Altunözade on Fridays . 30 people, 35 people, 40 people are gathering. There are scientists there, there are journalists, there are artists, and so on and so forth. Well, questions are being asked. He's also having a seizure and stuff. After such a meeting, right after the day of that meeting, after the foundation employees and

24:09 our guests had gone, I asked Kemal Hoca, "Hoca Effendi, are you pleased with Gürkan Bey, sir?" he asked. He also said, "Estaghfurullah" with his politeness. You have to ask him. He asked, "I wonder if you are happy with me?" This much. Nothing else was discussed. But after Mim Kemal Hoca left, were you able to benefit from it? You are with my teacher Mum Kemal. “ Can you learn anything?” he asked. I said that I learned how to make photocopies very well. Because I was making a lot of photocopies at that time. Well, that is not suitable, he can easily do that job with an office boy and I have a culture and arts department to be created. In the established foundation. When I asked my friends there if they would be interested in working there if I recommended it, I suddenly

24:56 found myself working in the culture and arts department. I have a number of lists in front of me. Look, I was not a person who had any dialogue or acquaintance with any artists. We can actually make this the main topic of our conversation today to explain this. In order to achieve something, you must first have a problem with it. I have seen this very clearly in my own life. Many people have seen it. Let me express it too . If you have a problem with something, you look for solutions to it. The lesson is very important. You will worry about one thing first. When you see a mistake, you will be troubled. You will have trouble with something you want to do. So I want to learn a language but you don't worry. So I want to make money but you don't worry. So, you're holding on to that job with the tip of your hand. I

25:43 want to reach out and meet people in the art world. When I invite them somewhere, I want to at least get to know them well enough to extend the invitation to them. Then you will be in trouble. So what does the lesson require? What should I do about this? Now there is something very easy . I had some questions in my mind a while ago. You can ask this to a place called Chat GPT. Here, what is this, what is that? He also tells you something. You act as if the information you receive is 100% guaranteed to be correct. It's very easy. But there was no such thing as chat chipir back then . What can I do? You're meeting with your friends. It is the most natural environment for consultation and advice. If you have a few friends you trust, you can sit down and talk to them. What should we do? Lists have been created related to this person. Jobs have been created but

26:28 we cannot reach these people. Let me tell you some funny things happened. Look from here. Now I have an artist's phone number . I am now at the head of art science and we need to reach these artists . Why do we reach out? We will invite them. We will explain ourselves. When we bring different segments together, they will come and be involved, too . They will also be involved in that work as a color, a member of that society . If when I say something it reaches one person, when they say something it can reach 1000 people, 10,000 people, even a million people. So, wouldn't you like it? You are eating a very delicious meal. There are hungry people around you, or you think they are hungry. Are you sure that it will not end when you share it? Of course you can share it. Eating it alone does

27:13 not provide any taste. We will share this. That was the thought at the time. What an amazing energy. We got the phone numbers, we got the lists. We search every day. Of course, since phone numbers change so frequently, we never see a butcher or a greengrocer. Oh my God, what bad words he says to us. How dare they say "Don't call this number again" and then insult us? Because for years, people have been calling that number thinking it was someone's number. The man is also fed up now. You too are searching, you too are persistently searching. I am so far from this business that I do not know the artists. Of course, everyone knows the very popular people of Yeşilçam from their movies etc., but for example, there are theater actors who are not very popular . They haven't appeared on television screens, but their names are on the lists, too.

28:00 I will never forget one day I called an artist. It has a name, but I don't have a picture of the artist before my eyes. I don't even know who you are. I called the phone. I said, can I meet so-and-so ? I'm his older brother, come on. he said. I'm so glad I reached the right person. I mean, the phone number is correct. He said, "I am his older brother." Can I meet with him? He said no you can't meet . What were you going to discuss? he said. So I said, sir, we have such and such activities. We are a foundation like this, we are here and there. I would like to meet with him and get information about these. After that, we have organizations. We can send him some invitations etc. His brother told me that we don't have a chance to meet or contact him right now . But technology advances a lot. If there is an opportunity to meet with him in the coming days,

28:47 I will let you know. Leave me your phone. I said, how? Can't you reach your brother ? He said. Bro, are you kidding me? My brother is dead. Well, my brother said, it's been 2 years since he died. I insist his brother to meet an artist who died 2 years ago . I'm that far away. I don't know many artists that well . Of course, it is not possible for anyone to know all the artists, but you have to be involved in this business enough to know at least a few of the important players. But if you remember, there was a television program years ago. They were putting envelopes like this in front of colorful people. One of them was playing a song by someone else, coming out with a guitar.

29:32 From an elf who has never picked up a guitar in his life. Within a week, he played the guitar on the program like a guitar virtuoso . to earn money, to be the first in the competition. At that time, some things dawned on me. I also really like these mosque taps, the mosque taps in the fountain. When you look under them, it is a place of complete contemplation of marble. Those marbles, the ones where water drips, are always carved in large pieces . That water drop is normally the first to fall, but it only washes away the dust on the marble . But for years, that drop kept falling on the same spot, carving the marble to its very bottom. You can look at it and meditate . Perseverance and insistence on a matter brings a person to results with Allah's permission . You should not give up or give in

30:19 to anything. But you will continue to insist. I went to a course but I can't learn the language, I can't get my head around it. You won't give up on the story of me turning 50. Continue. Continue with the same perseverance, the same ambition, the same determination after a year , 2 years, 3 years . Let's see if we will learn or not . We can all test this together . I insisted and did not give up, we occasionally follow up with those people and of course the meetings . There was an organization called Cemal Leşre . I went to that organization. There are familiar people in that organization. There was a music producer named Şahin Özer. That's where I met him. I went to him. When Periyan Savaş entered the scene, he and Periyan Savaş immediately became close friends, and

31:05 after meeting Periyan Savaş, I told her that I was trying to reach Kemal Suna, er, right there . I called him that day. I couldn't reach it at all. He said, "Well, he said, I get along very well with his wife, Ms. Güle." Well, he said, let me give you their home phone number. He said, "Call from there and we'll talk directly." He gave me his home phone number. And think about it first hand. And I called Kemal Sunal. He answered the phone from his home phone and said "Come in" in his own voice, and we recognized you immediately. Well, I said, I was going to meet with Mr. Kemal . Well, he hesitated a little. He said he is not available at the moment. Who was calling? he said. I'm surprised now. Kemal Sunal is talking to me. I'm sure that voice is his but he is not available

31:53 . When he asked who was calling, I said, " It's the vice president of the international relations department of the Journalists and Writers Foundation ." I used this adjective a bit with some artists because I perceived them to be more impressive and easier to accept at that time. I mean, I don't know . I asked, "Well, what topic were you going to discuss?" Sir, we said "it was this or that topic." I asked, "Are we going to discuss these on the phone?" So we won't be able to meet face to face? Can't we tell a person to his face that we love him very much ? Look at us as a person, we do this kind of work, that kind of work . Can't we say that we wanted to inform you? Do we have to say these over the phone? He said, "You can say it face to face, too, brother." We can meet and you can tell me face to face.

32:39 When I said it, Mr. Kemal, yes, you said it wasn't me a moment ago, but now I smiled again as Mr. Kemal. Of course, I smiled a little. Well, I realized that he was making a joke. So how do we meet after that? How will we meet? He said. Sir, I said, the Journalists and Writers Foundation was a place like this, right across from the Harbi Orda house. Well, if you please, we would like to invite you here . He said, "I don't go to institutions I don't know ." I said, sir, if you find it appropriate, if you give me your home address, I can come to your house. "I don't invite people I don't know to my home, brother," he said. I said I wouldn't invite him to my house, brother. I said, "Okay, how do we do it then?" He said, "This hotel is in Taksim and very close to your place. I remember it as Hayat Regency, right next to Harbiye Istanbul Radio

33:25 ." If I remember correctly, I don't know if the name is still there. He said I was hanging out there. I come there from time to time . He said we could meet in the lobby of the hotel. When? He said let's meet on Wednesday at 11:00. I said, "Okay sir." We closed it, friends. I made an appointment. From whom? A few days after Kemal Sunal, we go to meet Kemal Sunal in the lobby of the Hayat Recisi Hotel . Look, you will meet and will there be a conquest? So what will happen? I mean, revolutions, but no, how important is psychology, psychology, being able to reach someone and even being able to talk to that person,

34:12 I consider it a great success. I mean, it is the grace of God Almighty, of course. And we agreed to meet at the Hayat Recesin Hotel. I returned to the foundation. I announced this to my friends . Believe me, what a joy. Everyone suffers from the same problem. Everyone wants to have something. It's related to his department , it's related to his job. But the success of one of their friends is also an incredible reason for happiness in this sense. Those who pray, those who say do this, those who say do that, let's get up like this at night and pray like this . Let's come here in the morning and pray. Let's send you off with prayers etc. and what not. Long story. We will buy a gift. From where? Because in this sense, gift-giving is a sunnah of our prophet . But I mean, I'm going to one of them. This

34:57 will be the first time I meet such a person. Sir, what can I tell you from me? Well, if you remember back then, Kemal Suna got accepted to a university after that age and studied at university. I think it was law school, I don't know which department it was. I decided to buy a very special pen for writing at university. We bought a pen. I also covered that pen with a special wrapping paper. Why am I telling you about this place? It's a detail, but I'll draw you a Kemal Sunal type for that. I covered the Okap paper nicely, taped it and I am someone who always tries to keep to the time, 10 minutes early on Wednesday, 10 minutes before 11 . It may be a bit of a habit left over from the military . By the way, I eat my food very quickly . I went to Hayat Regins Hotel

35:42 . 10 minutes to 11. I saw that there was a seat in the lobby, or rather, a place like this . He sits there alone. He came early too. It was a little rainy that day too . I came walking slowly . I felt a little wet . When he saw me, he said, "Yes, brother." he said. He extended his hand like this, "Sit across from me ." saying. But he made me a promise. "Come, brother, let's meet and embrace." he said. I said you made me a promise. "We were going to hug . Let's hug then," he said. We got up, hugged, kissed, and sat down in our seats again. Sir, if you accept, we have such a custom as a souvenir of this day. I bought you a little gift . I thought a lot and tired myself a lot, but when

36:27 he said something like this, "Oh, I like gifts." he said. But he keeps trying to open the tape I put on him with his fingernail . He can't handle it at all. If he lifts it, it will rip it off slowly like this. I said, "Give it to me and I'll open it for you." they said. "No, no," he said. "I," she said about the gift wrapping paper . I'm a little sensitive. He said he was keeping them too . I don't want to waste it for him. He said, "I don't want to tear it" and he really tried and opened it. He opened the pen. He put it aside and said, "Thank you very much." Here you go, I'm listening. I said, sir, when the situation is like this, the Journalists Foundation was established on this or that date, but our honorary president, so and so, said, "Just a minute, from this date onwards ."

37:14 He said, "Wait a minute, don't tell me anything." I was so worried why we had been rejected by several people we had tried to reach before . So we did not accept to meet with us. When that happened, I said, "Oh no, we are experiencing a new incident. I guess my family will not accept it." You are fundamentally a religious structure with a religious appearance. I suddenly thought he would say he has nothing to do with you and cut him off. "Now brother," he said, "you will tell me from there ." He said, "This one, that one, I will sit here as if I am listening to them, but you will not know how much I understand, how much I accept, anything ." So, he said, "Let's switch roles with you." Let

38:02 me tell you what I know about you and your teacher . After I finish my speech, will you complete my deficiencies and correct my mistakes ?" he said. I was shocked. Of course, I said. Then it started. This teacher of yours, the golden generation project, etc., came to the place where it was in history. There was this mosque, there was a window, from there Izmir, Izmir, this school, a cram school, Akyazılı Foundation, I don't know what. From there, cram schools, Istanbul, etc. Oh my God. The foundation explained it.

38:49 I was shocked. I mean, if I wrote something in front of it and came up with something chronologically, I couldn't come up with something so clear and with such a definite date . God is my witness. But he explained them so well as if he had studied his lesson . I was shocked. I said Kemal abi, I was incredibly surprised and happy. I asked if I could make you an offer . He said, go ahead brother. I said, swear, they pay me a monthly salary here at the foundation so that I can explain these to people. I said I am willing to give you half of my salary. If you want, let's explain these to the people together. I said, you explained them so well, he laughed. He said, "Something like this He said he didn't want to. " I can ask you for something else,"

39:35 he said. I said, "What is it? He asked, "Can you arrange for me to meet this teacher of yours one-on-one?" Can you talk to your teacher one-on-one now? Well, I couldn't suddenly say in my head that of course it would happen . Because I suddenly said to myself, "Come and see, sir, he has some discomforts and some preoccupations." Of course, I will forward your request for an appointment, but when do I have time? he said. He said, "I mean, if something like this happens, I have some things I want to talk about first, etc., and I said, 'Okay, I have some questions,' and so on.' I said yes, I received the appointment request, we said goodbye that day and left. Then of course

40:22 we met at 11 o'clock, maybe it was around 12.5 o'clock, Tom, I don't remember. I don't even remember if we had anything to drink. If it came, it means I haven't changed. I mean, I've always been immersed in things like that . Anyway, I came to the foundation from there . I talked to friends. Here I talked to my teacher. I talked to my elder at the foundation . They told me to go immediately, go. Altunizade itself, as you know, resides above the Altunizade FEM private teaching institution. Then I jumped up and went straight to him. A few people are sitting in an environment. I came in, sir, I said, like this. We met and talked with Mr. Kemal Sunal today. Oh, is that so? He said he was very happy. How is he? Is it good? Good luck, sir. They send their greetings. He made such a request . When he says that, he suddenly looks at the friend on his right and left and sees

41:07 a clock on the wall right above his head . He looked at the wall clock by tilting his head back towards her . Then he said, " Let's drink coffee with milk together this afternoon ." So I left around 1 o'clock . The idea of ​​meeting Kemal Sunan again around 5 o'clock. Now this time I hesitated there too . So I said to the man, either he is busy at work, he is sick, or whatever. Sometimes we can't get an appointment. We were wondering if it would be 15 days or 20 days, but we just broke up. How will you meet at 5? I mean, I was worried that he might say something very rude or something. I said, teacher, let me reach him immediately . There is a home phone number. " Hopefully, I'll wait for him to be available at 5:00 today

41:54 ," he said. We left there. I called him right away on the phone again. I reached him on his home phone. I said, "Sir, he really has serious responsibilities etc. etc. but today around 5:00, he seems to have some free time. What's your situation? That would be great, he said. He said, "I'll come at 5:00." I said, "Sir, let me give you directions to the address." Doesn't he stay above the Femdi prep school in Altunizade ?" he said. Gee. I was surprised too. So he also has this information. He said okay. I said so. I said okay. At 10 minutes to 5 o'clock, it was like this, honey- colored, I think it was a Lincoln brand, that's how I remember it. He came to Altunizade FM service in a car . They opened the door. He

42:40 went in there immediately. He parked the car. Of course. I came to Mr. Kemal Sunal immediately. May God have mercy on him abundantly. Well, of course, when I go up there, I tell you something about what kind of atmosphere you will encounter etc. in my opinion . Sir, we will go inside now. We will go up by elevator. He usually greets his guests at the door as soon as the elevator opens. There are a few people there, but then we retreat to his private room. See you there, it doesn't matter. He said, "It doesn't matter, let's go." We left there together and went up to the 5th floor by elevator. Well, the door opened, no one was there. Under normal circumstances. All guests were welcomed at the door there . Anyway, we got out of the elevator . As soon as the elevator door closed after exiting, those lights

43:25 were sensored. Of course we are waiting for someone to come from inside. It has a sensor. The lamps also became dark after a while . It burned again or something. From there we started walking towards him together down the corridor. We started walking towards Hodja Effendi. Of course, they did not inform our teacher that we had arrived. from below, but I guess they were too late to tell us that we were going up. Suddenly, I saw our elder coming from the beginning of the corridor, running in a panic . Kemal Bey also walked towards him and they suddenly embraced in the middle. The two men, who had never met each other, hugged each other tightly and then, pulling him away from himself, he said, "Mr. Kemal, if I slip up and call you Mr. Şaban, please forgive me.

44:11 Your name Şaban is much more prominent than your name Kemal ." There was a smile, a warm atmosphere and they linked arms. Welcome, welcome." he said and took him inside. When we came to the hall in Altunizaded, even I was scared of the view. Because Kemal Sunal knows that we will meet first. There are 3540 people inside. They would remember those who are alive today. They are all sitting on the floor , on the carpet in the hall. When Kemal Sunal suddenly hesitated when he saw them as soon as he entered, the teacher immediately understood. He said that the crowded environment

44:58 might make him uncomfortable and he turned to Kemal Bey and said that you wanted to meet first, but your fame prevented it. He said. No teacher, what do you mean? God forgive me. I am comfortable. This place is like my home, etc. He said something. And then the teacher sat him down and the conversation started. What was talked about in the conversation? Kemal Sunal talked about something for a long time in the conversation. Generally, the things he talked about were about copyrights. In other words, the summary of television is that there are many movies on all channels where he plays the lead role and the entire attraction and burden of the movie is on him, but he does not get any share from these movies. He told me that he had not come, or rather that the artists had such a problem.

45:43 Why did he tell this to Hoca Efendi? Well, I suppose under the conditions of that day, because of his er, his interest in the state administration or their interest in Hoca Efendi, maybe when someone came, he would tell them. Maybe some arrangements would be made on this issue. The art world and the art world also had the idea that those who deserved would get what they deserved regarding royalties. I don't know much, but he dwelled on this issue so much that he even felt the need to ask later if Hoca Efendi Kemal Bey was having financial difficulties . Why? Because he thought that since he was having so many troubles, he probably had no income or something. However, we know very well that he didn't have such a situation . Everyone already knows very well. Well, but I

46:30 'm saying this to explain the issue. Well, these conversations went on for a long time. It went on. It went on. I er, I thought that we were now returning to the same place and that the result of the meeting had come and er, sir, you are also busy. Kemal Bey is also busy. If you allow us, let's get up and ask for your permission. When he said this, the teacher stood up in such a harsh manner. Kemal Bey also straightened up from where he was sitting and came towards Hoca Efendi. And the teacher approached him and said, Kemal Bey, you wanted to talk in person. If you have anything private to talk about, there is a room in the back, let's go there . We can talk privately there, he said. Well, Kemal Sunal sir, with all due respect, I talked about everything I could and would talk about very easily. The atmosphere was very

47:15 comfortable, very nice. Thank you very much." he said. Well and he said, well friends, he said they have prepared a gift. We present such a gift during our meetings. He said, "I don't want to buy you a gift, sir, but can I ask you for something?" he said. Here you go. he said. He said, "These works you have written, your books," he said, "they have turned them into a set like this ." "I saw it somewhere," he said. " Well, I couldn't get it from him," he said. "If you give me a set like that from your books, I would like to read them," he said. He was so happy that the teacher said "Oh my God, sir" in his face. He said, "Bring your friends here immediately." We started to wait standing. One of his friends ran and went inside. It could probably be Cevdet Bey. I don't remember exactly what the secretary was like at that time because sometimes there could be other people as well.

48:02 Our friend went inside and we were waiting, standing, waiting, waiting. He said look, he didn't come to his friend. He went again and the second person went too. They arrived a little later. They said, "Sir, there are no more of those books left here." When I said that, Mr. Gürkan said he knew about our house, but I didn't know that at that time. eee, "He knows our house . He'll bring it to me," he said. "If you do," he said. "Okay, let's give it to him then." he said. And we got permission and left. We went downstairs. That's why I thanked him. We got into his car and said goodbye. Then uh, was it a day later? I'm guessing in two days . I was able to go again not that day but the day after that . They gave me that set of books. Well, I don't know if he wrote anything on them because I don't know the inside, I haven't looked at the books. Because

48:48 when he gives a book, sometimes he writes something there in his own handwriting. The teacher was writing. Well, I don't know because I haven't looked into those books. I took those books to Kemal Sunal's house in Fenerbahçe , I later learned his home address. Well, I took it to his house. He bought the books, invited me in, we met, just standing there. 15 or 16 days passed after that. Well, my phone rang. More precisely, he called the foundation. He talked to me. He called me to me. He said, "We need to meet urgently." I'm worried again. I said, " He must have come across something in the books that bothered him. He'll say something about it." We met after that.

49:34 and he said to me, "I didn't buy the books for decoration. I'm a researcher, a reader . I'm curious about what people write. I bought it and read it. Look, this is evidence of what I read, and the cover of a spiral notepad or something opens. Here's this book, it talks about these and those. Open it. In this book, it talks about these and those and those subjects. Open it. I guess there are 11 or 12 books in that set, I don't know the exact number. Look, I don't know the number of that set. He wrote them all one by one . Now go tell your teacher about our conversation today. He bought the books but didn't throw them away or put them somewhere in his library like a display case or something

50:19 . He's read all your books, sir. In fact, he said, I'll send this as evidence, but I need this. Now, that day, you have a guy like this, my friends. I mean, when you look at Kemal Sunal movies, everyone can draw something. We once, er, I don't know if it was Çiçek Çiçek Pasajı. The place where these artists hung out was on İstiklal Avenue. We met there once. I went there to meet another artist friend of mine . He was sitting at a table. He was sitting. He is such a serious gentleman with such a cheerful laughter , and the people who will come around him are only those who are in his pen . Kemal Sunal is not a person who eee embraces everyone and moves easily . You all know

51:05 but the man has valued. He describes something to you. He meets. He meets one-on-one . He buys his books. Then he reads them and summarizes them. Now Kemal Sunal is a man who has a direct idea when something is said to him about us or the movement . He knows, knows, has contacted, seen, got to know. What was our aim? For people to first come together and get to know each other. Did it happen? It happened. I will tell dozens of similar incidents. I will share these testimonies with you. Today, I will decipher these and bring to life those who are alive today, eee living in Türkiye, eee his beloved wife,

51:50 his children, eee I can't remember the name of the girl, Ali Sunal, you know. Well, I do n't have any such concern about giving them a message. Or you have been demonized. Here you have been pushed aside in the witch hunt . You have been declared a terrorist. That has been done, this It was done. May Allah punish whoever did wrong or evil . And they say that the law and sharia cuts the finger does not hurt. No matter where they cut, those who did wrong. But in a period when people were completely ignored, you were declared as follows . Did you see? I am not saying these in the sense that we met so and so in the past, we met so and so. The services that were done that day

52:35 were done for this reason. We were appearing before people for this reason. We were going to people for this reason. And then if someone is going to say something about someone, they will say something about someone they know and know or they will hear something, wait a minute, you are doing wrong , you are saying wrong. These people were not like that, you have introduced yourself to one of the brave people who will say. It started like this . 1 2 3 1 2 3 it continued like this. Look, at the first foundation meeting of the Journalists and Writers Foundation, he meets Cem Karaca Hoca Efendi for the first time in his life . These people he meets for the first time come together and shake hands. What is the meaning of a handshake? But a shaking hands causes the heart to be conquered

53:22 . Do you know how it causes the conquest ? Cem Karaca's own words. I was together with Cem Karaca for the last 8 years of his life . So his wife is alive now. His last wife Ilkim Karaca is alive. They may ask. How many nights did I stay up all night with him? As you know, he had an addiction to alcohol. I will tell you that story in detail later in later programs, but when I could barely make it home for the morning prayer at 5.30 in the morning, I must have stayed up all night until the morning Cem Karaca. I was very affected after his death. You know, what was the last name of the actor Ismail, I still ca n't remember. They made a movie about Cem Karacı's life . I have never watched that movie

54:09 . I wasn't going to watch it, to be honest. Because I knew I couldn't stand it. I mean, a friend of mine sent me the entire movie on WhatsApp the other day. I told my wife that she sent it to me . My wife was curious and said let's open it and they did. I probably couldn't stand 20 minutes of the movie I could. After 20 minutes, he was about to turn off the movie, sobbing and crying. I'll bear it later. I watched that movie, crying . Because there is such a bond of affection . But do you know where it starts ? A handshake. The teacher holds Cem Karaca's hand tightly . He explains it this way. Cem Karaca says, "Some people," he says, "put their hands in my palm like steaks ." Fluffy. I hate this," he says. "He held my hand

54:55 tightly," he says. And I looked into the eyes of this person who held my hand tightly, he says. He didn't take his eyes off me, he says. He looked into her eyes too. I felt something flowing from her eyes to me and at that moment I said, may God bless him for making me say that. I said, there is nothing in this man's past that he can hide or hide. He feels something like that. That much handshake. Hello. Hello. Then they sat down. I think two years have passed. There is no meeting. Dear Hakan Şükür's previous marriage, who died in the earthquake, will be held. My

55:41 grandfather is in the pool garden of Polat Rönesans Hotel . Cem Karaca is a little late. I apologize. CK comes to the garden and the protocol table has come and sat down. I think Tansu Hanım was the deputy prime minister at that time . He was also at the table in the protocol, the teacher was a little late, he came to that meeting a little later than everyone else. It is understood that way. Cem Karaca also says that I I am walking around the garden in a derelict state. I looked and he says there are people around but I am not sincere. I see Galatasaray players and so on and so forth. He says on the side, it is normal, I bought my drink and was drinking it. Suddenly he says I saw him enter the garden. What he said I saw him enter is what our teacher

56:28 now describes with his own words . He says he is going with fast steps in front . The people behind him say his men say it is like this V. You know how wild geese go in the sky, he says there is a goose in front and they fly around it in a triangle shape like this. He says exactly like that. He goes from behind and he says 3 people are following him with fast steps . He says while he is going fast towards the protocol table, he suddenly says when he turns his head slightly to the right, he must have recognized me from my hat . He says he saw me from a distance. They met once two years ago at the Dedeman Hotel and shook hands. That was it. Two years later, when he saw Cem Karacı in the very corner of the garden of that wedding, the teacher was going fast towards the protocol and he braked suddenly and of course the people behind said he would stop he

57:15 says they bumped into him because he didn't know. Ha ha ha he laughs. There was a funny scene there and the teacher and protocol stood up and waited for him. He changes direction and starts to go towards Cem Karaca. Cem Karaca says I didn't know where to put what I had in my hand. I put it in a bush there. And then I went towards him and he suddenly hugged me. He said, "My friend, how are you?" Now look at what happened? I experienced the pleasure of being owned like this for the first time in my life at that moment. My friend, how are you?" And suddenly he separated me from him. He put his hand in my hand like the teeth of a comb. "Come with me," he

58:02 said. He took me and dragged me to the protocol table. Although I didn't have a place in the protocol, a chair was pulled up there with Tansu Hanım and our teacher . I sat at the protocol table at the wedding that day. He says. If you open your heart and soul to a person like this and tell them that you love them like this, you will see the return. How do you see it? At an award ceremony, I will tell you about the ceremony from the front to the back of the Çehrekastraşan Kurur painting award ceremony, God willing. From here, when the journalist put the microphone to his nose and said to Cem Karaca, "Does it suit you to receive an award from the hands of an enemy of the republic, etc., etc., wait

58:47 a minute, are the cameras rolling then? Star TV had broadcast at noon, Güvener Kayapaşa was broadcasting, nobody will go here, this and that, etc. That 28, look, the period of February 28, 1997, remember February 28, 1997 well . With the National Security Council declarations, the late Necmettin Erbakan and so on, at that time, great things about Islam, great things about Islamists , were they right or wrong? There are many things that could be said right now. But under the circumstances of that day, you were holding an awards ceremony . All the artists will come on stage. He puts a microphone up to an artist's nose . There is one reporter from Cumhuriyet Newspaper there. Here he says, here he says, "Does it suit you to receive an award from the hands of an enemy of the republic?" He says wait a minute, you're the one saying that. He says are the cameras working?

59:32 Save this. I held that person's hand and looked into his eyes. He tells the incident. The cameras go off, the lights go out, they say nothing will come of this and leave. If you don't meet, if you don't explain, if you don't introduce yourself, people will wonder if one day someone slanders you. But if they know them, they will say, no, we know these people. No matter how big the pressure is. People can't say it today, but those who say it say it. Those who can't say it, God knows the reasons why those who can't say it don't say it. I don't know. I don't know. Dear friends, we have reached the end of my seating limit. Our conversations will continue. Please forgive me. That'll be all for today.

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