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0:06 deep -sea secrets deadly ambush two agents two nations zero margin for error operation boss I Know Scott hello and welcome to pea gurus channel. I'm your host. We are joining me today Shekhar I have the lot of sensational items happening in and around Delhi. Let's welcome Shekhar I have the checkers in our car. How are you, sir? What's car CG? I'm good. Thank you How are you, sir? I'm doing well, sir, and let's start with the Ram when they row so I saw some
0:54 interesting social media posts What the post is alleging is that for that media posts what the post is alleging is that for the past two and a half years the tinnu yadav guy the main accused had made over 900 phone calls to akilesh yadav on the day the donation theft was discovered he seems to have made three calls to akilesh yadav everything is now recorded in call logs so this has put a new twist what is the involvement of samadbadi party in this whole thing sir do you have any update on this sir this is some more of a update on this sir this is a more of a buzz in the social media than you know actual investigation throwing up any such detail number one number
1:41 two yes this tinnu yadav is uh you know his role has now come under here because see some he since he was very close to champatrai many people who wanted to make donations instead of making it to the you know to the trust itself trust itself or to the proper account of the trust. Many of them started giving it to him to be put in the trust account, whether it was cash or whether it was gold ornaments or it was kind, we do not know. But this is something odd. Why should he receive uh
2:31 you know he received first funds in his name or why should people trust him to hand over money to him that's one right the second thing that is coming out now sir which is the most disturbing aspect uh you know you mentioned about whether connections to samajwadi party now once information that is i mean which is doing the rounds is that some leaders of other parties to is to recommend the people to be is of other parties too is to recommend people to be given job in the temple complex that connection uh congress leader normal kathri's name is coming he's a former up congress chief that is one
3:17 the third thing is sir which is very very disturbing is every day what the sit is now coming to a conclusion this people almost you know stole uh six to seven lakhs a day in the sense when the country when they were counting the money in the process of counting they used to take away some notes and keep aside and avoid cctv scrutiny take it to the washroom or do something or you know take it out you know use a chain of people in a relay kind of thing and take the money out and if it is six to eight lakhs a day now you can imagine it is almost more than a crore a month so if it was going
4:08 for one one year or two year or three year they could have siphoned off almost 50 60 crores who knows now the attempt is to see because to see how the money has been invested that is why they are finding out details of what is the property sort and all that now this this whole thing is such a big Such a big trust was set up, a complex was beautiful, complex was built and with all that how come you know they did not have a pool proof system, Sir now with the investigation going full throttle,
4:54 I mean look at the political side of it. Now Yogi has put the SAIT on the job, SAIT and Sir incidentally a bit. the job aside and sir incidentally a temple of this kind and which has come up after a long struggle the uttar pradesh government or uttar pradesh chief minister was nowhere involved in any of it was not even a nominated member of the trusts it was entirely run by these people the government set up a trust and some of the people who were part of the ram temple movement including champat rai particularly the the court litigation they were accommodated
5:40 Then the other person Anil Mishra similarly is a person who was associated with VHP. Then there is another character called Gopal Rao, whom I am told hails from Karnataka. This Anil Mishra and Gopal Rao, where you know where we used to oversee this donation aspect. Now who has sent them that role, how did it happen? Now, who assigned them that role, how did it happen, now this is very, you know, how could there be some kind of an informal arrangement like this, that baffles even the common logic, that's one. Now, sir, what is happening is,
6:25 repeatedly it is coming across, the yogi is very firm that everybody has to be investigated including Champa Tarai. some of the detractors of yogi, who are, you know, part of the BJP ecosystem or who are part of even the BJP government in Uttar Pradesh, they started issuing statements saying, no, no, nobody should be pronounced guilty till, you know, there is evidence brought against them. In a sense, they were appearing to defend Chappatrai. Now this was getting. appearing to defend chappatrai now this was getting little ugly that is a time when
7:13 we saw the rss step in with an official statement by number two in command their general secretary survived number two person rsc general secretary he came with a statement that is that he came with the statement saying that look the RSS, like the entire Hindu Samaj, is deeply grieved, deeply shocked that such a thing has happened which, you know, which has, which is, you know, caused a huge damage to the faith of the Hindus. And then saying,
7:59 and in the statement, the important takeaway were, one, that there should that there should be a proper investigation and that investigation must be taken to a logical end and whoever is guilty they should not be spared number one and number two this is the part where i think i thought we need to you know ask ourselves this question that nobody should allow the hand to hindu forces the anti -hindi or anti -hindu forces to take advantage of this whole controversy so because the social media has been full of you know
8:48 comments and memes and everything from people who were opposed to rama temple in ayadya who are very much walking the very concept i mean the temple being built there after a favorable supreme court verdict they questioned the verdict subsequently they were very upset Subsequently, they were very upset that the Hindu side had won. They were also upset that the temple came up very fast. They were also upset that there was a grand Pranapratishta. That too before the 2024 elections, general elections. They were also upset that Prime Minister Narendra Modi, you know, was asked to do the, I mean, to inaugurate the temple.
9:37 And it is also coming from people who boycotted the ceremony. despite being invited. The Congress leader Rahul Gandhi, Malik Arjun Karge, so many believers and including Ecclesi Adhava, they questioned even the sanctity of a Prada Pratistha. What is this? is only a drama. Now, those forces which were upset with it, they are very active now. very active now in the process of you know showcasing a donation theft they want to ask questions you know basically saying
10:23 so you see finally this has happened as if this theft itself completely overshadows the whole the history involved is a struggle the history and the legacy and the litigation that went on for years to secure what Hindus felt that a previous temple was demolished and a masjid was built and supreme court went into it and came with a formula by way of its own exercising in jurisprudence that this is the only way to solve this vexing issue was have a temple there and then
11:09 of course many question hold the legal answer temple there and then of course many question all the legal aspect this is about uh titles this is not this is not a matter of uh um there's not a matter of uh this is a title suit it's a it's not a matter of all that but everything supreme court bench went into it and finally came with a verdict and when the verdict came even the muslim side was happy because they would be given a land and they will they'll be able to build a grand mosque and that the government and the civil society would do all its care to help in that. Now we do not know why there has been a delay in that project. Now coming to this question
11:56 that the RSS should you know express concern about this. Some people are saying look, three things are there sir, one, the Rashtraswem Sevaksan They have now at least agreed that the pilferage of money, you know, is a grievous damage and it is a grievous sin and no one must be spent. That is, that one part is there. The second part is that some people are trying to take advantage of this. The question is, politics has always been associated with politics. Now, question is,
12:43 politics has always been associated with India Temple. This is not the first time. It has happened several times. So one should not be surprised. But at the same time, somewhere along you get a feeling that this whole thing has, you know, hid these very bodies which were behind this temple agitation and who are committed to the cause of Hindutva and they should they give overemphasis to the threat coming from what they see as anti -indutua forces or should they pay more attention to the fact a temple of this nature which came after such a struggle which became a symbol of hindu you know pride and faith and the management
13:33 of which has now come in called into question because the whole question is see this is not the first time see this is not the first time the politics will bound to happen even after the temple came people question everything but at the same time i think it is time has come for these groups also to see how there can be a foolproof system now it does shock us you know we have seen huge temples being in this country we have seen prop you know there is a method how the donations are
14:18 often talked about the example of tirupati devasthanam they rent so many charitable services they provide so many passenger amenity i mean pilgrim amenities for pilgrims you know there is annadanam going on there is prasad all the time so many things are happening there similar thing is happening in ram temple also in agitya but could not there have been a better arrangement Yes the government did not want to get into it, the central government did not want the state government also get into it because it has come let the trust manage it. But the trusts it fell hugely short of the confidence reposted in it. Sir even more you know what is the
15:08 disturbing angle was? the whole distribution you know what is this that that's so any human organization a temple is also a human organization in terms of you know management and wherever there is a human organization religious or non -religious secular or otherwise there is always element of human greed at work but there are checks and balance even in our commercial banks there have been cases where some employees and officers colluded or all the scams that you are hearing where banks Or all these scams that you are hearing, where banks have been defrauded. It is very people who
15:54 the system trusted, they have done this, which was called phone banking during the UPA rule. Some phone would go and they would extend credit 400 crores, 500 crores, 1000 crores. So, this element of what you call the greed, making men overcome this, you know, what is normal dharma, there is a sense of right and wrong. I mean, this is there, but then the system has to take into account this, this is a human nature and to prevent it and why it was not done. That is one. So, the other thing is, so as soon as this matter, you know, the first of the
16:42 whisper We hear Champat Rai asked this Tinuyadav to return the money and that people are mentioning figures like you know 68 lakhs or 54 lakhs or whatever but it is definitely huge sub. Now the question is why did Champat Rai instead of straight away going to the police and filing these guys to return the put back the money as if that was the only amount stolen because that that has raised suspicion
17:31 sir you are heading an organization you find some money has gone missing yeah they are not even aware that the money went missing because those monies were never accounted they were never shown there's somebody literally pocketing money Yes, somebody literally pocketing money. So they would obviously not be shown as having been received on a particular day. They would never be shown. Now that amount, the fact that Champatrai took that initiative, in whatever faith, did he really think that once he heard about it and if this money is returned, the whole thing is over? Because that particular act of Champatrai, which people are
18:18 now saying, though it is a particular act of chappatrai which people are now saying though it has sat has not openly mentioned it but everybody the idea is talking about it and all those who are you know accused people living close to the homes of the accused they also mentioned this that an attempt that was made on june 4th and 5th you know somehow to make these people return money whatever they had but these people had you know bought property created assets which was visible to everybody And when the police raided their house, they even found foreign currencies, the residents of these people. Yes, we have asked with our program repeated question, how did these people dare to commit such a
19:08 sin? But then sir, human nature, you know, you cannot trust human nature, the belief that the spirit of dharma runs in everybody's heart. but if everything happened why there was this loose end sir if they are concluding it was between six to eight lakhs per day so we can imagine that what would have been the mount sri irji sir now the challenge is this yes the anti -hidu forces along with the anti -hidu forces along with the anti -indutva forces because i often make a distinction because there are
19:56 two lots one is more political the other is as a bigger agenda and they they do want to you know make it out as if so that they can say this whole project the whole thing that happened as a result supreme court wording was itself was a betrayal of people the betrayal of people and thereby they hope they can somehow politically help parties like the congress party so that the feeling of hindu -ness will come down or the essence of devotion towards ram will come down and that will have a political year i i
20:41 don't think sir ram people those who believe in ram they they have got so many people They have gone, so many people, thousands of people have gone to Ayodhya with that faith in their heart. They have seen nobody other than the Lord Himself there. They are not going to change mind because of this episode. Yes, they are hurt, they are pained, but they also understand that this is, this is the human nature, because stealing from temple is not a new phenomenon, it has happened before. Let's go. new phenomenon it has happened before and there are several stories that how
21:28 even Ramdas had to suffer you know there is a story of Ramdas who used the revenue to build a Ram temple in Badrachalam and finally he was sent to jail and this the story goes finally the the Lord Ram and Lakshman They were moved by his faith and devotion to appear before the local king and to get them freed after that money was returned. Well, this is a story to highlight how even the most devoted will be punished if they endure the stealing.
22:17 So, I mean that separate but this is where we need to I mean, that's separate, but this is where we need to see, sir, and the political follow -up. Sir, there is, I was mentioning, there is one lot which feels that if yogis, you know, going to see everybody booked, including Champath, right, that will create a tectonic thing in the whole, the broad parivar. That is one lot. The other lot was trying to, you know, say that, look, this is the time for the cleanup of the system. that they should not be restrained because xyz names will come now this money that has been generated has been used to create assets that is coming
23:04 out once now how far does this money travel who all benefited this is going to be a longer thing or how localized it is because the samajwadi party congress party want to make it out that this is the money that the bjp used in the election my god money that the bjp used in the election my god i mean how they are how stretching this allegation so these are the things sir which is quite uh upsetting people but at the same time people are also having confidence that with the investigation picking up speed they will get to the bottom and they
23:49 will definitely you know trace take the money tree i mean i trace the money tree i mean i trace the money tree i mean i trace the Definitely, you know, trace, take the money trail, I mean, I have the, I mean, discover the money trail, one. Two, sir, now there is an effort that since this is a, this is as the emerging scenario shows, a lot of money is involved and there is a lot of possible money trail. So, it's a time maybe agencies like the Enforcement Directorate will have to be brought in. So, there is some move to see that the investigation. you know is handed over to a central agency like cbi with ed also coming in the picture and other central agencies are involved as to you know find
24:39 out how deep the rot is when it comes to you know using this uh bill for money sir thank you so much sir um yeah we'll wait for the results to come up and see what happens um for the results to come up and see what happens um this new thing is very interesting battery hacks fueling uh evm debate sir i thought battery hat came in only if there's a loss of power that evms are also connected to power isn't it no sir this what does that this is a sir whenever there is a this kind of hacking story car now what has happened is these uh electric rickshaws particular these
25:26 electric rickshaws particularly cities like delhi you know delhi mumbai bhopal even cities like ujjain now these e -rickshaws have battery they run on these lithium batteries now these chinese come and most of these batteries powering these e -rickshaws these are supposed to be the last mile connectivity vehicles right there's a lot of them in delhi they are elsewhere elsewhere also now last few days complaints have been coming that when the e -ricksha is when they are you know applying suddenly it stops because somebody managed to interfere in the system the battery management system
26:16 and suppose stop the e -ricksha and with the with the driver having the, you know, ordered a blocking of several apps that are being used to switch off these e -rickshaws. Now these complaints came from, as I mentioned, the cities like Delhi, it came from Mumbai, Bhopal and then they found out that there are at least three, four apps which are supposed to monitor the health of the batteries. And they are called the, you know, battery. And they are called the, you know, the battery management system, BAT, BMS, whatever.
27:05 And there are, you know, laps, there are several laps. And the whole idea was, then they, you know, when the investigation was done to find out why this, you know, e -ricksha would stop, they found out some mechanics were doing this. Then coming there, the C trying to again re -fix it and start the e -ricksha. So these. see trying to again refix it and start the e -riksha so these drivers or the people who you know earned money out of playing in p rickshaws they had to pay these mechanics a lot of money that is how the complaints started coming the second who were involved in this is also other drivers you know when they wait at a say at a
27:51 metro station or at a bus stand if they find one rickshaw carrying a lot of passengers they would suppose stop it and irish are carrying a lot of passengers they would somehow stop it and how would they do it that since these batteries were not encrypted they could be easily connected through bluetooth and essentially it was meant for the owner to monitor the health without opening the casing he can simply you know check from that and to see if you know what is the health what is the temperature what is the charging level For the easier check, now,
28:38 sir, what has happened is, well, see, the people who bought these e -rickshaws, many of them bought, you know, from at a competitive rate with the batteries provided by these people. So, and the Chinese companies did not provide the normal encryption. which should be there because other than the owner nobody should be able to access these things here is a video to show how you know these uh apps were used to stop the eric shahs so guys this is eric shah if i am connect carrying heavy and yes set off
29:41 so this is the this is a prank played by many people but as I told you some mechanics were doing it they would fix it quickly refix it without the owner being aware that this about this battery management Without the owner being aware that this about this battery management system. Now why are we discussing this is very interesting parts. The social media has been highlighting this how these batteries lithium batteries can be hacked with the use of apps for following the government ban. Now people are saying that if a phone app can shut down a vehicle over Bluetooth.
30:27 Why should We even trust the idiot Even cockroach Janata party started, you know feeling that doubt So in a sarcastic manner Now I mean completely People do not even realize what the technology are we talking about why this battery management system is there for these Why this battery management system is there for these batteries? And why are the cheaper batteries don't, are not provided with the usual security protocol? Why there is no encryption? Why there is no password? People did go into it. So then, you know, they started feeling this, that,
31:13 that, you know, if it can happen to this, if vehicles can be stopped, deviant can be stopped. And this also timed with opposition writing a big letter to Chief Justice of India. saying they complaining about sir again you know that they you know almost sounding that we need to go back to you know the ballot paper you know unconnected evm machines now sir everybody knows that there is there are no chips in the evils whereas these batteries have chips
31:58 sir uh in the evm there's a fundamental difference uh shaker g and i for our viewers benefit i've done a lot of research on this uh over the last you know several elections the most important thing is the evm cuts itself off from every external interface whether it is lan lan network wi -fi or even bluetooth it doesn't allow any kind of external interference to be talking to it so to to try kind of external interference to be talking to it so to to try and equate one with the other is a deliberate mischief because they think that you know uh abdullah from almoda will bite hook line and sinker and uh outrage after that right so cockroach janta party
32:47 thoughts you know these are also phonies what can i say sir people have to be a little bit more People have to be a little bit more intelligent to when people are doing these kinds of comparisons. Absolutely, sir. The EVMs are not connected on Wi -Fi, not on internet, no Bluetooth, nothing. That is why you don't, unlike in some countries where the EVMs used to be there, you could get results within, say, an hour of closing, because all they had to was, you know, get there, pull the results from all the EVMs. In our case, it is individually counted with paper trail.
33:32 Correct. And of course, after this vote to CGA, Chief Justice of India, the question arose, is opposition again going to boycott EVM held elections? I mean, if elections conducted through EVM, will they boycott? That also they are not saying. Sir, the effort is, till I win elections, I will continually raise doubts about the EVM, about the evm about the election process i'll question the election commission where i win i'll keep quiet sir take for instance the special intensive revision which is going on yes it's a laborious exercise and it's sometimes exasperating if you do not find your name in the
34:20 last sir done or you don't find your parents name in that then more documents are required documents are required it's quite a society but at the same time the congress chief minister of karnataka dk shukumar has openly declared only if your name is not in the water list you will not be eligible for social net of the government with various you won't be you can't be a beneficiary under our programs our handouts you can take it that means governments now the karnataka government under Congress wants to use the same SIR to include or exclude
35:08 because that is the allegation now. Same allegation is this. Now he is openly saying that earlier the charge by these opposition parties was BJP deliberately kept out some voters, basically meaning that they kept out minority voters or Muslim voters. Now in Karnataka the reverse charge is there. Now, in Karnataka, the reverse charges, they are adding more and more a particular section of voters, Congress. Sir, see, the whole problem is, sir, even in some prank played by some people who discovered these apps and they start stopping vehicles and particularly as I mentioned, the biggest culprits are these mechanics.
36:00 This, this, this whole thing is, you know, being made, escalated to a point where, so that can this be a ground? Anyway, even a fundamental knowledge of how, how EVMs function and what is this battery management system should clear the doubts. Nevertheless, you know, we thought we should, you know, discuss it because this is, this has been, you know, gaining attraction in the social media. Sir. Thank you so much, sir. sir thank you so much sir viewers um over several years every time in fact looks of our elections would come up and we would have a program where we would bring in the experts to talk about the viability of the evm not only did we go to the point where
36:46 we proved that everything was cut off we also told people how the vvpat and the electronic counter are checked i mean this was it was our suggestion to do ten percent of the the evms randomly but they didn't to do 10 percent of the the evms randomly but they did i think only one out of each constituency or two out of each constituency they did it a little bit less than the statistically applicable acceptable way where there are two methods of counting one is using the vv pad the other is electronic count and still you know it's still better than nothing i mean look at what a most developed country like us is doing they are primarily reading the elections not just once it's been done
37:33 for a long Primarily rigging the elections, not just once, it's been done for a long time. The rigging happens in sophisticated ways, so you don't understand it. So you just think, oh, well, everything is all right. It's like ostrich in the sand attitude. So EVMs are bulletproof viewers. There is nothing you can do. In fact, what happens is after each EVM is counted, the numbers are announced and accepted by the representatives of all the candidates. representative of all representatives of the of all the candidates for that constituency they have to sign off on it they are actually viewing it they are seeing it in front of their eyes see the the there is an unfortunate consequence of
38:19 this which is that they'll know a certain booth number voted so much for this party and so much for this party and if they bribe that uh particular booth constituents in a heavy way and if they went in a heavy way and if they went the other way they will feel like oh my god these guys have really shafted us in the back but those are all you know minor things compared to the overall integrity of the election and the election election what election voter machine evm electronic voting machine sorry so that's that is to me you know uh somehow they are trying to find some reason to create some mischief and some noise so let's go to the last one because
39:05 this is yours before i hand back the control to shaker i just want to say we did this thing in tamar also so in horse horse trading in tamar is kudirai beram beram is you know beram is you know where i argued you you argue back and forth for the price to get the best price and we said that those who are trying to buy tvk's buying of other mlas is kudirai beram tbk's buying of other mlas is kudere biram and the opposite that is of dmk trying to buy tbk is reverse kudere bm so coupe kudere biram coupe and recoupe so we are going to stick with that so that people know who
39:53 is on the coupe contingent and who is on the recoupe contingent over to you sir sir uh uh and i i my understanding i have watched indian politics this iram gayeram politics we have seen standing i have watched indian politics this iram gayram politics we have seen yes yes they are over the years we have seen before the anti -defection law was in place sir horse trading means the horse escapes from the one stable and comes to the other stable and it is ready for service i mean the horse is there is ready to do what you want for the price which you have already paid which you have already paid. Now, in this case, initially, sir, ADMK,
40:43 MLAs, sir, when the election results came out, there was hung assembly. There was anxiety among the elected, newly elected representatives of all parties who had spent a fortune, beg, borrow and steal also to fund their election expenses. Now, among them, there was a scare that if there is a hanged house, there is a president's rule or after some time. There is a hand house, there is a president's rule or after some time they go for a fresh election. They would have the resources to again fight elections. And this was going on when Vijay made a first mistake of not directly taking place. If he had gone to the governor and said, I have emerged as the single
41:29 largest party, give me a chance to prove it on the floor of the house. This is what he should have done. having got 106 members or rather 107 members the total was 108 but he was elected from two places now instead of doing that he was advised by congress look you say that we are supporting you because five mlas of the congress who were elected on the dmk plank they overnight switch sides which came because Rahul Gandhi decided to back Vijay
42:15 after having extracted 28 seats and a Rajya Sabha seat but his party winning only 5 seats, the horses overbred gallop to the other side. That was I don't know the trade aspect of it but the horses went to the other side. Now after that when Vijay went to the governor saying these 5 are backing me that means he was seeking support on the basis of a new. speech, he was seeking support on the basis of a new post poll arrangement. So the governor was right in insisting, look, now that you have come with them, then you have to show the letters of support from them. That is how it went on. And that is a time when, since it appeared to be precarious every
43:03 moment and there was the fear that BJP would use the office of the governor and the post president's rule. of the governor and the post -president's rule so the allies of the dmk particularly the two communist parties the indian muslim league and the vck of the mawala one they decided that they will support tvk and stalin kept on saying he was very angry that the congress sources left but at the same time he wanted to break out that he was back then he must was respecting One time he wanted to make out that he was magnanimous, was respecting people's mandate and he let, and he
43:49 was letting them go. That we, the double -metricarchy government is being propped up by DMK and its allies. He wanted to show that. But once these people went there, they also decided to quit the alliance headed by DMK. Okay, when the public pronouncements were taken seriously, that is a time. a secret operation started In which you there is a style it played a big part because he could not see which I as a CM for even a day Then only you had stories of how they had approached even had a party points of me Saying
44:34 that we are even willing to support you to become CF That's a time also when the ADMK MLS were very restive. They were arguing, look, we also fought on anti -DMK plank. Yes, we wanted an alliance with TVK. did not join us. And now that the band -aid is against DMK, we can have a reason by saying we will support TVK, to which EPS or Hedapadi Pandisami was not ready. And because at the same time, there was a talk of his negotiation. and because at the same time there was a talk of his negotiations with the dmk now i am giving this uh
45:22 you know looking at this background because after that what has happened said the the actually the allies is formally decided they will even join the government that is something the dmk did not expect dmk thought they would be there as long as we want it thought they would be there as long as we want it and we could pull the rug when you know they will come over this side that did not happen once they left and joined the government when they didn't join the government that is the time dmk realized that they are losing they will have no control the report is not in their hands it never was and never will be then you saw a counter move happening trying to prevent them from going
46:17 Now, sir, then you started hearing Stalin suddenly coming with statement that this government will not last for, you know, two months, three months, four months. First he said it would last six months, then he said four months, then he said two months. Now, Vaiko decided to ship to TVK, he met Chief Minister Vijay, then he was quoted as saying mr vijay then he was quoted as saying look cm said look sir in between the what happened 25 adm kmla is voted for uh vijay and they thought they would immediately get a birth in the government the new government they would be made minister which i didn't do that which
47:07 shocked all of them so some of them didn't know what to do they wanted to go back some touch -up was made even leaders like well when he went back sp well money but then again well when he found that the party was moved to reaccom reaccommodate him or his supporters and finally he has also decided to leave shanmukha the other leader you know he he didn't go back you know in this scenario two vijayabaskars both heavyweights you know ministers of yeah you know ministers of admk era who are known for the financial clout and resources they decided to join tvk
47:55 they resigned their uh seats now at this time the the acquisition came that when viko met vijay that vijay had told them that you are mlas sir viko has been bugged with dmk of course about viko's past you know he has thrice been with dmk and out of it this is the third time You know he has thrice been with DMK and out of it, this is the third time. So Vijay said look your MLA since they were forced to contest on DMK symbol, so they are DMK MLA's, they are not MDMK MLA's. And that time Viko swallowed it. He swallowed the insult heaped on him by Stalin by asking his party
48:43 leaders that if they wanted leaders and if they wanted to contest under DMK Alliance, they have to contest as DMK candidates. Now Vijay is supposed to have told Vaiko, if they resign their seats, then there will be by -election. Now already, by -election is going to be six places, so another, one more place and gradually the number may increase. And that he would campaign also for them if they are willing to come here. This was made out. but also for them if they are willing to come here this was made out as a horse trading
49:28 then when they kept on saying this in the house outside the house then came this complaint on june 29th at tv kmla eleya raja he went and complained to the police that he was approached by somebody who works for some you know poll agency or election strategy experts and offering him 35 crores to support a motion against the Tamil Nadu speaker, assembly speaker. Because if that motion can itself be used as a floor strength test, instead of a direct no -confident, because you can't bring a no -confident motion again for six
50:15 months, because Vijay has one of a vote of confidence, so instead of challenging like that, why not challenge the speaker and that's how this thing started now more than eight people have been arrested synthil balaji's brother has been named and after that you know there is a lot of buzz about the former dmk's ministers coming under scrutiny and they will be investigated and these ministers this former dmk minister running health and these ministers this former dmk minister running helter skelter so this question is coming is this is the question sets now we
51:03 are also told that the what the dmk's worst fear is that if once the by -elections are held and even dmk has reasons to believe that people will what still you know will go by what we just is it's hardly It is hardly not even two months and Vijay has not lost the mojo yet because the honeymoon will last longer. The people are willing to give him time. So DMK is worried that more MLA should not go and their own MLA should not join. This is their fear.
51:55 they are bargaining now who is bargaining and who is not bargaining but this case this particular case and the typical the counter question from DMK is where is evidence where is evidence they are not saying we will never do such a thing they are always asking where is evidence but there is a fear that the fear is if there is a fear sir the fear is if if these the opposition continues to create hurdles and the public perception grows that despite him being emerging as second largest party despite him proving a majority in the house the dmk is out to somehow make ensure his government doesn't function and
52:44 his government collapses that is not going to go down well outside the house because it's too early for people to you know lose their confidence in vijay at the same time there is a fear gripping the dmk leadership the fear is that their own people will be coming under scrutiny past misdeeds will be opened past cases of corruptions will come to the fore and vijay is determined to act because he keeps on saying his family says no offer what I will not touch people's money I will not let others test the money
53:30 at those I will also not leave people who have touched the money before in Tamil it comes quite rhyming that Toda Martin thought of what a Martin thought I would have what did no he puts it in that ring I don't need public money I will never touch public money I will not let anyone touch public money I will not let anyone touch public money. At the same time, I will not let people who have, you know, touch that money. So there is a fear. The fear that Vijay could consolidate in the months to come, because as he gets the better grip of the government, despite, you know, from being by his ministers
54:18 or whatever, as he himself learns the ropes of, you know, governance, that he could gain strength and public trust at the moment is not showing any dip and the dmk ecosystem which is very active particularly the media and they continue to project that this is going to be a very very severe case so one can see that this whole game is being tried to be reduced you know I'm trying to show holier the endo sir I remember in 2020 no i'm trying to show holy them though sir i remember in 2021 election sir i bet the government was formed stalling's government in 2021 he had
55:09 at least eight leaders from the admk stock all these people went on to become ministers yeah they all went on to become eva velu that is then you add uh sandal balaji himself all these because today the argument is you can't take anybody from other parties that has never been the case people have said sites sir over to you thank you so much sir this is interesting viewers so coupe or recoupé we will know and whose hands are going to become stronger at the
55:57 same time whose hands are going to become stronger at the same time vijay is really keeping some of the ex -ministers who have been accused of corruption on tenterhooks and so this is the effective strategy to keep them you know stay nervous we'll wait and see how it goes sir we have a few questions from our viewers if you don't mind we can quickly go through them and then wind up yes sir the first question i'm sorry i can't read it can you read it sir it's too small for me it's too small for me well modiji's go go soft on dmk corruption cases to draw them into nda fold as is being speculated if they are serious in fighting
56:42 corruption by now many dmk ministers would have been jailed now the question is whether modi is trying to the dmk to the nda fold that is one and number two why none of the dmk ministers who have been facing inquiry by it and facing inquiry by it and ed why things have not come to conclusion these are two two good questions sir firstly i don't see dmk walking into india fold for a simple reason they are worried about the loss of minority votes the vijay success has been because 85 percent of christians have voted for vijay who are previously used to vote for dmk one number two similarly more
57:29 than 50 Number 2, similarly more than 50 % Muslims voters, young and old, everybody, they voted for Vijay. So the DMK knows that they have to get back the support of the minorities. So they cannot publicly be appearing to be closer to NDA. But at the same time, they are so, you know, filled with, you know, anger over Congress that they would not mind maybe giving some issue -based support. to NDA, probably by legislation, though they are denying at the moment, if there is a bill, feel that they can benefit as an opposition,
58:19 because earlier when they oppose the delimitation bill, or one nation, one poll, they were in the ruling party, now they are in the opposition. position so this kind of thing is possible now as for the cases sir you can every stage you know edc actions have been challenged in court they have managed to get stay similar income test those cases are continuing i don't see anywhere central government trying to be nice to these dmk leaders i don't think so sir next one please sir go ahead sir this question from jairaban it's the the suggestion is rather that
59:08 banks can put cash deposit machines so that the money gets directly credited to the trust account yes i mean the whole thing is sir whatever system you have you have to have people who you know who do their job honestly because here in this case what has happened is the money has not even been shown in the system has not even been shown in the system yes along with this there could be other you know ways to see that wait where it is handled in fact they could have professional people to do the you know counting tell us to do it sir next one please sir thank you so much for doing this for me viewers i'm just
59:55 doing it on my phone today and it is too far for me to read the text it's just too small sir go ahead sir this is a question it's just too small sir go ahead sir this is a question from at the rate of psd 1955 this is a question which says do you really believe justice will be done in india regarding any crimes and with corruption at every level well well every time you know there is a episode like this a scam that you know completely shakes our faith you know we always feel that probably the corrupt will always get away the the the evil will always win the kinds of feeling
1:00:44 comes but i think ram temple it could be a very test case because if things were to be put under the carpet or brushed aside i don't think it will be easy for the ruling dispensation at the center or in lutarpradesh because everything is going to depend on how Because, everything is going to depend on how they handle, whether the big cats or small cats or big fish or small fish, they all will have to be caught. At least right now I can see the Prime Minister, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister, even now the Sankh, Rashaswem Sevat Sankh and even VHP are agreed that whoever is guilty must be brought to the book. Of course there are these voices saying, till somebody is brought
1:01:30 to the book, do not, you innocent until proven guilty right yes sir next one please thank you so much for there is a question from praga one what's the state of tabernad bjp total silence everywhere total silence everywhere 9r says that tvk financial discipline is terrible while nerubula says it is good well tamilad bjp sir at the moment they
1:02:18 have to start from the scratch and the central bjp is now more concerned about the challenges coming in the coming year particularly elections in the northern states but definitely tamilad will come back to focus but at the moment the tamilad bjp leaders have been back to focus but at the moment the bjp leaders have been told that let them play the role of opposition and not bother about people who have left the party sir thank you so much sir and viewers i had one bjp person uh fairly active come and give me an interview today i'm in chennai today and this is in tamir unfortunately so those of you who don't speak tamir will not be able to understand it but do take a look at
1:03:05 it it's a very mature To understand it, but to take a look at it It's a very mature measured response does not diss anybody does not say this is good This is bad at the same time. He paints what the state needs and how BJP can help fulfill that need so thank you so much. I can do we always give you three city views We we are not in favor of one or the other. We are in favor of Bharat. Thank you so much, sir. Namaskar Thank you. Thank you very much Thank you. Thank you very much.