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0:01 Uh there's a very interesting book uh the world of the jin and by shehikh um alashshkar is a very very interesting book uh it's probably one of the best books in the English language uh on the topic of the jin uh probably the most comprehensive that I've come across uh but what he mentions in his book is that you know the have throughout history appeared to people in the form of men uh or other beings and they have you know deceived them or tried to deceive them in this manner. Um Ib Tamir for example Ibia mentions in the essays on the jin which is again a phenomenal read and it really blows your mind when you read it. Yeah it's it's a good read and and what you read there I mean it's mind-blowing because he for example I'll give you an example he he mentions that some of the the the Sufi
0:48 she were present at the time uh when Ibent lived they were visited by the jin and the jin in one uh part he mentions that they were given a device by the jin. Now this was like uh something like a a glass panel with water flowing over it. And through this device they could communicate with the gin and they could receive information through this device uh and communicate with people in in distant places. >> Now it's very interesting when you read this description. I mean it's very similar to the modern mobile phone if you think about it. I mean, one could speculate that what's been mentioned, like a glass-like surface where information comes up and you communicate with people at long distances and stuff like this. This was in Ibia's time. He's mentioning this stuff. So, these people were given these devices by the gin. And
1:34 this one point this highlights is that the jin you can say what we refer to as technology that they possess their own forms of technology that they've shared with people. It seems like at least from the accounts of uh with people throughout history obviously for something in return. And we know that the dealings with the jin are never in, you know, for the benefit of the human beings. Although, you know, some of these so-called magicians may believe that they're really benefiting, at the end of it, they're going to lose. They they lose out. Um, but nevertheless, it's interesting that the these devices are spoken about. He also mentions that some of these people uh the jin would appear to some of the these disciples of these these uh these shehs at the time and there they will see the sheh flying through the air and you know see them when they were in trouble somewhere and
2:19 to help them out and then they'll return to the sheh and say you helped us out you know again the jin would have taken the form of that sufi sheh at the time and appear to his disciples uh just to again build up the credibility of this particular individual etc. So you we see we read of accounts of them appearing or taking on the form of men of people uh of animals snakes is a very common one. There's other narrations of them appearing in the form of snakes which will again this is one I'm going to mention later on but I guess the point here is I'm trying to emphasize is that a key concept in regards to the jin is that they can take on different forms. >> They can take on physical forms. uh they can appear in the form of other people and they can appear in the form of other animals or other creatures. Um it
3:05 doesn't seem to be the preferred uh form way of affecting human beings. Waspa seems to be the main form which everyone gets time and again whisperings of Shayan where he whispers to you in your in his own voice in your own mind in your minds and he affects you in that way. But time and again you see that there is the appearance shaitan or the evil jin take on the form of people and appear to human beings for whatever reason. In the time of Solomon when king Solomon when God uh gave Solomon uh the control over the jin uh that they were referred to in the Quran as builders and divers. Allah refers to them as builders and divers. So they are specifically talked about mentioned as builders. So we know that they they the jin at least
3:52 some amongst them have the ability to build. Uh there are stories. So if you read the intelligent world of the jin the author in there from uh uh Arab historical sources the Arabs have mentioned the jin to be master craftsman. So for example uh one of the sources mentioned that the jin would make swords uh but they were unlike the swords of human swords. They were very special swords. They would not break etc. They had very special properties almost supernatural properties. Um so what's to say that you know the swords of today if you look at the swords of the time the swords of today you can say are the fighter jets of today. So I mean if you want to outdo that technology you know maybe they they have greater technology than us. So you know it's not a far stretch to assume that the jin have their own forms of technology. Going back to Ibia's case the device
4:37 that was given to those uh the the Sufi she again some form of technology. Um so it's not a stretch. Now exactly how does that work? Are these crafts things that built by the jin and they're controlling them? Or could it be that jin could take on the form of inanimate objects? Allah knows best. I don't know. It's just speculation, right? But there is a way of sort of bridging that gap because there is that that that con at least conceptual potential there that the jin can make these types of things. And they have seem to they seem to have throughout history outdone us from a technological perspective. They built things for Sulaman and Islam, King Solomon throughout history. U you know there's accounts of them in Arab histories of building things and making things far superior to what humans have
5:24 made. So it's not a stretch to say that they can outdo us today in our technology today. But if and when disclosure happens, the government officially comes out and does gives a statement you know the president comes out and you know says yes we you know there are extraterrestrials amongst us or whatever the case is and they say they are extraterrestrials. you know it it may not be the case that that's actually the case you know because remember what we get from the government isn't government isn't necessarily always true now I can see the reasons why a secular government may choose to go down the extraterrestrial route and use that as an official statement as opposed to anything else that may be supernatural in nature because look I mean let's face it extraterrestrials biological creatures from another planet
6:10 is far more easily digestible than to refer to a supernatural being that's been present on earth, you know, far longer than we have and has been here, etc., etc., although many are entertaining this idea as well. Now, um, I think it's an easier pill to swallow and it's more in line with the sort of secular materialist narrative as well. Um, but regardless, whichever way the, you know, the coin falls, we have an explanation from an Islamic perspective. >> But what I would say is if we really study it, the jin hypothesis seems to be stronger currently as, as things stand. If you ask most people, have you had an experience in your life, a supernatural experience? I can bet most people, I would say probably 90% plus would say yes. They've had some form of supernatural experience or unusual experience, even if they don't like the term supernatural. >> Um, so it's, you know, people uh are
6:57 open to this stuff and and you see this with this, it's created a lot of fascination. A lot of people are interested in this and a lot of people are looking for answers. Um >> and now recently over the past couple of months people have started to look at what religions are saying. So Joe Rogan for example on one of his recent podcasts you know he directly mentioned people that spoke to him and discussed the whole demons and angels uh uh explanation. But I think from an Islamic perspective we have a far more comprehensive explanation because it makes sense of many aspects of this phenomenon not just one. Uh and it seems like what people are witnessing today are things that people witnessed, you know, have been witnessing throughout the centuries and throughout the ages. You know, yes, people have different names for these beings, you know, like
7:43 people do from different cultures. That's not surprising. Um but it's there in the Quran, you know, it's there's a whole chapter on the jin for anyone that's interested to read further. Uh there's a surah called surah jin, chapter called the jin, and there are many other passages in the Quran that speak about the jin. Uh surah Rahman interestingly uh is an address to both humans and to jin and we know at the time of the prophet peace be upon him there were at least two occasions where the prophet peace be upon him directly gave da to the jin and engaged with it and at one point they became believers and they took the message back to their communities. So we know amongst the jin they were believing jin etc and they maybe jin from different backgrounds with different abilities. So yeah it's it's it's an interesting topic. Um and I
8:29 think it's good for Muslims from the you know that one they learn more about the jin two that they have some options as far as hypotheses are concerned in regards to this phenomenon you know regardless of what's said about it what the official statement is there are options on the table and we can make sense of this phenomenon either way and from a non-Muslim perspective I think it's interesting because it's a untapped area even for researchers they haven't looked into what Islam has to say in regards to this phenomenon very few have uh only one comes to mind but the rest haven't. Uh so it's an interesting avenue for non-Muslims to look into the Islamic tradition especially in regards to this topic and the gin.