Keras! Rocky Singgung Penjilat, Silfester Emosi hingga Keluar Kata Kasar - Rakyat Bersuara 03/09

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Brief Summary

This video features a heated debate about the principle of parsimony, the burden of proof in legal arguments, and accusations against President Jokowi. The discussion touches on philosophical concepts, historical figures, and the importance of providing concrete evidence.

  • The principle of parsimony is introduced as a method for simplifying complex arguments.
  • The debate revolves around accusations against President Jokowi and the demand for concrete evidence to support these claims.
  • Personal attacks and accusations of intellectual dishonesty escalate the tension between the participants.

Introduction to the Principle of Parsimony

The speaker introduces the principle of parsimony as a method of thinking that favors the simplest explanation in an argument. This principle, attributed to William of Ockham, suggests that when faced with multiple explanations, the one requiring the fewest assumptions should be chosen. The speaker uses the example of "girls" as the simplest argument, highlighting the difficulty of proving certain claims and the tendency to rely on assumptions.

Discussion on defending Muliono

The speaker transitions to discussing why many people are still trying to defend Muliono, attributing it to the complexity of their thoughts. He shares an anecdote about seeing a modified quote, " is not free you have to fight for it", and the discussion shifts to the importance of truth and substance in debates.

Debate on Sycophancy and Personal Attacks

The discussion becomes heated as one participant accuses the other of being a sycophant and a loser. The speaker defends his independence and criticizes the other's personal life, leading to accusations of making life seem difficult and painful. The speaker emphasizes the importance of focusing on the substance of the debate and providing evidence to support claims.

Philosophical References and Accusations Against Jokowi

The speaker references philosophers such as MW Brower, Gus Dur, Leo Tolstoy, and Heidegger, questioning the other participant's understanding of these figures. The debate centers on accusations against President Jokowi, with demands for concrete evidence of abuse of power. The speaker challenges the other to provide specific examples and legal articles to support the accusations.

Legal Arguments and the Principle of Facta Sunt Servanda

The discussion shifts to legal arguments, with the speaker invoking the principle of "facta sunt servanda," meaning agreements must be kept. He challenges the other participant to specify which criminal articles President Jokowi violated and to provide evidence to support the claims. The debate becomes increasingly confrontational, with accusations of intellectual dishonesty and attempts to divert the discussion.

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0:00 someone who claims to have a brain knows the basis of his brain, what is that way of thinking I just explained one small thing about parsimony and you don't know that even in law there is a principle of parsimony, I want to explain as a legal person which articles are you a student who is your professor what is his name you don't need to know right now which articles are violated by the President I want to explain ah No need for you to talk so much like that then want to explain the principle no no no no We are legal people we talk why are you stupid with that principle Eh you you are stupid

0:45 you Yes I'm sure earlier Mr. Roky listened to what was the debate Bung Noel Bung Silvester said that there is no evidence it is impossible Mr. Jokowi is a candidate for the Pilkada Mr. Jokowi doesn't think like that it is a political party but it is different earlier Mr. e Ciko said there are girls even though it is difficult to prove while earlier the logic was conveyed by Bung Ges according to Bung Rogi himself what was it like? Where was it? Yes what did you have earlier So is there power there are girls there are girls or not Is there a version of Ono Surono or not,

1:32 so there are many versions, right? Let's try to find out so that fellow students can get the lecture today, please, in the methodology of thinking, there is something called the principle of parsimony, parsimony is an attempt to explain something by taking the simplest argument. Okay, so in many arguments, the simplest is the one that is most likely to be accepted, that's basically the name, eh, okay, Razer, what's the name of Razer, those are the scissors,

2:18 okay, okay, this is a priest, there is this pope, coincidentally, okay, this is a Catholic priest, his full name is William, he lived about 700 years ago, a long time ago, that's the principle used by the Ilu of knowledge, when there is a complexity of debate, look for the simplest argument, okay, girls are the simplest argument, right? There are those who can't prove anything, right? The simplest ones are those who guess with the power of thought that they must be girls. So actually, we all understand that, yes, it is girls, prove it, it can't be proven, then vice versa, can it be proven, right? Jul, the long-winded ones, the ones that can't be proven, that's the way of thinking Hey guys, do you understand?

3:04 My first semester methodology lecture is like I'm continuing, then we want to explain why many people are still trying to defend Muliono, it's normal because of the complexity of my thoughts. I passed by ee on the escalator, there was a writing there Buya like this suc is not free you have to fight for it who wrote it Aan Mr. Haran Harano but maybe someone

3:52 read it wrong su is not free have for Who changed the Prof who changed Who changed it I ask you try asking the students maybe Who changed the writing Mr. Hari Tanusudi bio suces is not free you have to fight for it now it's changed su what's clear is that it's not dimension Yes, there are those

4:40 who wrote it are sources ins, mention their names, everyone can mention their own names so I want to but wait a minute, if you say that Bung Noel Bung Silvester they can't get it So you're very wrong Bung Roki You are a loser, we are not sycophants, yes I am one person who doesn't get anything from this government, either position or project and and so on I am an entrepreneur and I am a lawyer So you are wrong and you think we are complicated thinking You see my face is bright

5:26 my life is happy Oh no no You see yourself, right until today you are still a bachelor, rotten, poor thing,

7:01 don't be personal, right ... they already have a life choice for that if you are not a monk Yes, monks were not married in 700, even the pope was married You don't understand history, you don't have knowledge of science, yes, that's an exception, yes, almost all popes, yes, Catholic clergy are not married, they are celibate Okay, I explain it again, okay, there are no, you can't equate all of them with the one who

7:47 married one person, okay, exceptions, all of them are smart people You insulted the eternal vows of Catholic clergy, who are women, who want to be women Okay, but you're right, that's an exception, all of this thinking has an exception, you don't think Then there are exceptions If you think you know, listen, yes If Mr. Jokowi is not liked by people, listen first, okay, on social media, maybe he gets beaten, yes But when Mr. Jokowi goes anywhere in the corners of this republic, he is greeted by thousands and tens of thousands of people, even hundreds of thousands of people, I experienced that

8:34 Yes, those who welcome him, so do n't do it in your ridiculous way, right? You said we are also like you We are different, we are winners, yes Pang, the real winner, so there is no burden You are a loser from the start You hit Mr. Jokowi Mr. Jokowi stand still who are you who are you nothing yes then this yes in a little while there is a great thinker philosopher he wrote the book being and nothingness know who he is yes I read MW brower Gus Dur

9:21 Yes Leo Tolstoy That was in elementary school I have read So you don't need to talk like that now what is the use of you to make this public Okay I write it slowly okay that is the use of President Jokowi is 1000 times more than you so you curse people Mr. Jokowi didn't even reply to you you are very cruel people say me yes Okay you mentioned two names earlier MW brower and who was that Gus Dur Gus Dur and Leo Tolstoy Tolstoy since elementary school I have read that Sem okay which one read le Tolstoy Which one we don't need to argue sir we are arguing now the one

10:06 today we I want to know whether you read it or not I taught we are arguing today yes this problem is not that problem come on invite me what we are we we are here not arguing the past we are arguing now the one you accused Mr. Jokowi of interfering Where is the proof I will arrive there gu l don't you divert left right left straight to the point if you are a man yes speak as it is I want to say what Where is the abuse of power Mr. Jokowi Okay I speak please you earlier MW brow Okay brower read heideger who is

10:52 heideger is the personer who wrote earlier right said nothing I said that for clarification being nothing written by heideger read by the person whose book you read omo who is heideger right studied the Faculty of Law right Okay who is that this what about philosophers said earlier or about law we debate about what there is accusation against

11:39 good and right people like that then this i not not others you don't need to go around up down left right Mention the caw-caw Mr. Jokowi that kam I willwut that since earlier I wanted to mention it I will answer that Okay I want to mention it now yes Yes you mentioned braower you know who brawer MW brawer Explain to them try what you mentioned Leo tolstoy who studied history all our leaders the founders of the Republic know who Leo tolstoy know who heidegger is who You explained earlier but you are illiterate about it How do you want to charge me to talk about girls if my foundation

12:26 for talking about girls You don't understand want to debate labi Ma add debate arguing that now like this what we are arguing about yes I want to explain check where the evidence is like that huh yes I want to explain that now we don't need to talk about other things hush what all that is no longer important you said earlier yes You said a sentence that has an etymology, namely bachelor then I remember people sem yes You are indeed a Bachelor Lapak different from a cleric, right, that's really poor that's why you said our lives seem difficult and painful and licking I have to slaughter that who

13:13 said that who are you who said that huh I said who changed that Why do you claim to be the source here yes definitely the two of us yes why do you admit Oh don't admit it it's not admit No I want eh Roki I want to refute you yes you are living a good life yes if you live painfully every day So Loser Okay I explain yes every Today We're dizzy, we're not dizzy with our lives, why is that, you know, and we don't lick the tongues I go out every day, there are people licking here, you just talk like that, you know, the debate is more about the substance,

13:59 Uncle, my friend, our students want to hope for the truth, which one do you, my friend, students, enjoy, or not, fight, or lose, or something like that, there's no problem, bro, but what I mean is more about the substance, you want to chase him, right? He's been talking nonsense, messing things up, where's the proof? From earlier, you don't need to turn left, turn right, don't be strict to the point, I'm just fooling this society, prove it, I can't fool them, watch your stupidity, oh no, I'm talking with valid facts and evidence, you're talking with opinions and framing that are not right for

14:44 this nation, this is our methodology, give it a chance, wait a minute, please, please, J, cut it off, please, in methodology, there is the principle of parsimony, that's Hoa's way of thinking, how is your knowledge of methodology, minus 7, you don't understand methodology, how can I invite you to think if the principle of thinking is you I don't know, this is how you belittle people like Anis yesterday gave 11 points to Mr. Prabowo Mr. Prabowo became president I'm not belittling I'm belittling the thinking ability Mania people who like to belittle people this one this one I'm slandering people their work is like this loser Okay, let's continue Drink before Roki, I

15:31 want to continue later I'll be patient [Laughs] be patient someone who claims to have a brain he knows what the basis of his brain is that way of thinking I just Explain one small thing parsimony and don't know how it's possible to have a diploma don't know what parsimony is asusttaga even in law there is a principle of parsimony want me to explain Roki wait I want to explain I want to teach you you no I don't need to be taught by the law as a legal person I ask for proof Okay I explain I ask for

16:17 proof okay okay right You don't have to talk at length I only ask for proof where are you Okay I explain Okay I explain that's all we are legal people Okay I want to explain based on evidence and facts that yeah I want to explain now you talk at length you fool other people I Don't You're messed up, he's asking for proof, proof, to prove, you need a way of proof, right, the way of proof, please. Okay, you want complex or parsimonious proof. It's up to you what kind of proof you want to give, I'm the people, you hear, you're lying, or is the proof real or a lie? I'll give you the parsimonious proof. In legal science, there is a

17:04 principle of fact zunervanda, a pack must be ser, you know that principle in legal science. Come on, I'm not a new student. You have to explain. Do you know that so now just talk about the proof? This is what I want, bro, if we're in court, bro, no, we don't talk at length like this directly. Where is the proof? The judge will ask for that, okay, you're the judge, let me explain, the proof is called fact zunservan, you know that term, I said Roki, right? Where is the proof? Now we're talking about the president who did it, I use English, a pack must be ser, the name is the

17:51 sunservan pact, the agreement must be stated, which criminal article did the president do this, you said what you prove, which law was violated, which article said, okay, please, please, I'll explain slowly, yes, I will explain using legal arguments. p must beve Pact zun servanda fakta itu pek means agreement right or wrong Sun means don't be right or wrong wrong Sun means Not the other way around yeah how can I explain him this stupid not I agree with whatever you say like that ah now right Where is he he No

18:38 he's just going around can't provide proof There's none This human being this human being is a loser who is very detrimental to our nation with the lies he does there's none right Where's the proof that you can give right now there's none Roki I'll give you where there's none you don't need to talk I'm not your student that you teach no as a legal person where are the articles are you a student who is your professor what's his name you don't need to know right now where are the articles that the President violated I want to explain that You don't need to talk a lot like that just to explain the principle no no no We are legal people we talk why are you stupid with that principle Eh you You're stupid

19:24 [Music] you talk Kay already Okay okay we'll come back when we are with the people speaking You're stupid my idiot [Music]

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