MARVEL COMICS: Celebrating 60 Years of the Amazing Spider-Man

0:02 and what do we think we might see and now it's time to join marvel editor-in-chief c.b cebulski and executive spider editor nick lowe as they team up to trace the comics history of everyone's favorite web head in marvel comics celebrating 60 years of the amazing spider-man hello hello d23 how we do it everybody having a good show can you hear us back there all right i'm gonna need a louder

0:48 confirmation back there can you hear us back there can you hear us in the front can we get a big spider-man welcome there we go [Applause] all right hey all right let's let's test our spider knowledge just to make sure we make sure we got the right crowd here all right with great power there must also come all right his web shooter's sound effect is there we go all right i think they pass the test i think so too i think so too they were just telling us backstage that this is the fullest this room has been for d23 just yet so thank you to all the marvel fans thank you to all the spider-man fans so great i mean we assume you want to sit down yeah why

1:33 don't we sit down we assume that you guys are here because spider-man is the greatest character in the history of fiction can i get it can i get an amen right we all go to the church of spider-man with saint uncle ben saint aunt may right uh well we are so glad to be here with you today like like he said i'm my name is nick lowe i'm the fighter editor at marvel and we have editor-in-chief cbs cb sabolsky i do know your name yes you do we've been working together long enough i hope it's true it's almost 20 years yeah great so um i have a question that i like to ask the audience before we start these panels and it's about your origin story with spider-man because everybody here knows and loves spider-man and knows the legend of peter

2:18 parker and an amazing cast of characters both heroes and villains that he has in his life but you know people coming to comics coming to spider-man in many different ways so i'm going to ask for take a poll just by people raising their hands who first met spider-man peter parker in a comic book how many people out there okay all right all right good amount of hands what do you say about 20 yeah about 20 percent now how many people first encountered spider-man in an animated series yeah a lot of oh yeah a lot of hands that probably gets us to about 30 40 50 something like that all right and how many people first encountered spider-man from the movies okay very good still a lot of hands not as much as the animated show what about video game video games okay

3:07 animated right electric company well let's see electric company how many people are there okay a good amount all right good my that's awesome newspaper strip good one good oh good call good call and or the live action tv show oh they did you say the mtv show how many people remember that one and how about you cb uh for me it was comic books i know i i of course the electric company was a big one but for me my first encounter with spider-man was a comic book i don't remember the exact issue unfortunately um but how about you i mean i think it was probably underwear uh probably any other underwear first experience but other than that it was i think i think the first like full story i got was from an episode of an animated show okay for the 90s spider-man cartoon and

3:53 then i read some some reprints of comics but that's that's all right but we're not here to talk about my life story or your life story we're here to talk about spiderman's life his life story 60 years now 60 years and it is not only amazing cb it's beyond amazing it is beyond amazing so i think we got a little uh little trailer here to to start off the panel see how this goes do i have to click again maybe there you go [Music]

4:42 [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] awesome i just want to uh want to thank michael cho who was the artist who did a lot of the artwork in there through the interstitials between the comic book

5:29 covers so incredible uh we'll be talking a little bit about something else michael cho did later i believe as well we will so keep your ears peeled for that name michael cho and now this panel is being live streamed we can't forget so hello to everybody who's watching at home maybe to families and friends of ours no ex spiderman creators editors um thank you all for being a part of this with us uh if you couldn't be here in anaheim you're watching where you are in your homes so um all right trivia question spider-man's first appearance was in amazing fantasy 15. comic that started it all amazing fantasy 15. and the date of publication was 1962 anyone not quite the cover says august but that

6:16 was actually a little known fact i don't know how little known it is but when when you get the usually the month of the cover is when the newsstand was supposed to take it down but it actually came out on june 5th 1962. uh incredible uh this cover of course by jack kirby not one of the creators of spider-man but uh steve's coverage steve ditko who co-created spider-man with stan lee did a cover and and the the story goes stan wasn't thrilled by it and by the drawing so he went to his other right-hand man jack kirby and he did this cover here yeah and in uh 1962 just to give you some context to what was going on the time as you see here the comic was 12 cents uh gasoline was about the same price 12 cents a gallon the average price of american an american home was

7:02 thirteen thousand five hundred dollars and a college education at harvard university was one thousand five hundred dollars in 1962. uh so i think that's what my harvard education cost me i did not go to harvard i'm not bragging but you know in this story there was a short story in the back of amazing fantasy 15. uh we were introduced to peter parker uh the you know uh bespeckled bumbling nerdish uh high school student they were trying stuff out this was an experiment that stan and c put together that their publisher martin goodman was not all that thrilled by he thought no one would read a comic that has spider in the title people hate spiders uh stan and steve disagreed yep um and but as

7:50 they were experimenting they did things they tried things like the little dots in spidey's eyes that you see him there with the with the robber that we get in that one panel and the blue spider on the back of his suit that eventually and then as of amazing spider-man number one uh is red there but all throughout this issue it's blue but of course it's also where we first meet aunt may and uncle ben is that true nick well cb it's not i know so we guarantee you're going to learn things in this panel about spider-man you've never known before because before this nick myself tom brevort uh executor of a bunch of people did a lot of research because there's a lot of urban legends and things around the the backstory of spider-man and now we're going to give you some secrets today all right true so the first one is that uh uncle ben and

8:35 aunt may or at least those names was not did not first appear in amazing fantasy 15. they had been used before yep in strange tales 97 which came out three months before amazing fantasy 15 there's this story called goodbye to linda brown and linda brown has an uncle ben who has a mustache in here unlike peter's uncle ben but aunt may looks pretty much the same but this i mean this has to be the first appearance of aunt may and uncle ben yeah but there couldn't have been another appearance of these characters before this could there be there actually is two years earlier in rawhide kid number 17 we get rawhide kid's origin the origin of the outlaw and his uncle's name is

9:22 ben and in that story uncle ben dies and teaches rawhide kid a lesson that he has to help people and so i mean we one part that we're still in our research period i wish i could report a year or nay two now as far as we know stan did not have an uncle ben uh but we'll keep looking and we'll report back maybe next year now is it just me or does that look more like uncle stan up there sure does especially in this in his 70s styles yes exactly but but peter's uncle ben did not wear the purple cowboy hat and purple pants unfortunately yeah but it's not uncommon in comics especially back in the day for ideas and names to be reused a lot of comic characters you may or may not know this even to this day are named after the the friends and family members of of the creators themselves and this was a

10:07 theme that was started really back in the day as you can see here but you know moving on uh to the actual uh creative team that created uh peter parker the amazing spider-man uh stan lee and steve ditko yep stan and steve came together uh neither could have done it alone to make this character and that's one of the things that i love about working in comics is the collaboration and so in the here in the in the center that's a portrait by phil noto but the other art on this is all by steve it's steve's self-portrait on the on the left-hand or the right-hand side of that image right there on the left-hand side you have the house stanley steve ditko created spider-man and those are ditko's drawings of stan and of himself on there and they made comic book magic um

10:53 so but i mean these are two of the greatest creators in comic book history of course spider-man was not their only creation but it is my favorite and to me the the best comic book character and the best fictional character period take that sherlock holmes take that james bond it is spider-man now and you know stan and and steve uh had a working relationship for years before this you know before the the marvel age kind of launched with fantastic four number one you know uh alice comics marvel comics uh stan was there with with with steve with jack you know with wally with a lot of these creators doing romance comics doing sci-fi comics doing war comics but when it came to to spider-man and when they uh were creating the story you know stan really felt that steve was the artist with that kind of kind of quirky more

11:39 whimsical style the less realistic style that could make it look a little bit weird like literally as a human wouldn't bite and be embodied by a spider and one of the things also that publisher martin goodman was not excited about was a story starring a teenager a story starring a high school student at least that's how the story goes i think that was another reason why stan went to uh steve ditko who drew great teenagers and like you know spindly not these like big super heroic people for a spider a spider you don't necessarily want that superhero physique of that and i think that's partially probably why he went to to steve on this uh and of course they made comic book magic i think we're up to our next urban legend yeah there's a lot of urban legends surrounding the myth of spider-man and we're not debunking any or saying one is is is more true than the other because there's

12:25 just you know there's a lot of the been put in print there's a lot that you've seen on screen in interviews with stan um but there's one thing uh that you know that the people always say is that that this was the one shot that they had to create spiderman that they were doing this one story this short story and that martin goodman said your your careers live and die by this story if it just fails there will never be another spider-man story um but you know that is not true because of in in the letters page of amazing fantasy 15 they actually talk about how spider-man is going to be one of the features in amazing fantasy moving forward and you can kind of see it when we go to amazing spider-man number one uh stan would sometimes claim that it was so popular that's what they that's what led them to doing amazing spider-man which is true uh but that

13:12 wasn't the original plan right and because you can tell because amazing spider-man number one and amazing spider-man number two are each divided in half with two stories per issue and those would have been in amazing fantasy 16 17 18 and 19. it isn't until you get to amazing spider-man number three that you get a full-length comic book story of spider-man and that was always something when i was rereading it when i became spider-editor that blew my mind and was looking at that and and they're weird stories too like they're they're definitely figuring out it's like some of my favorite tv shows you don't really know what the tv show is until you know five or six episodes in until they figure out what it is and that's definitely what stan and steve were doing yeah without a doubt and you know look at these covers here you know these ten covers were some of the first you know uh year of of

13:58 spider-man the iconic characters that are were created at this time that are still around today and then you know one of the things you also have to remember is that uh you know they didn't know that they were creating a universe back then these guys were just telling stories month by month hoping that the comic was going to be successful enough to continue the other thing that you realize from back here and we're gonna get to this a little bit later is these comics were being created in real time the characters were being aging as if they were in real time month by month and year by year because they didn't know how long they'd keep going with this they certainly didn't think that we'd be here talking with about spider-man 60 years later there was no that there was nothing like that in the culture at the time uh it's amazing yep and then here you have you know you have doc you have electro vultures

14:44 and then you know then that all led to one of the first big ideas that came in together let's put all the villains together on a super villain team the sinister six vulture electro craven mysterio doc ox sandman they all come together to kick spider-man's butt in one of the greatest comic books of all time the amazing spider-man annual number one stan and steve i don't know how they did that and the regular monthly comic of amazing spider-man it has some of the best art ever done you can also see steve developing i mean he'd already been drawing comics for a decade at this point at least but he you see him coming into his own and developing with each successive issue this issue has a splash page for each of the villains it's incredible if you've never read it

15:30 do yourself a favor there's so many versions in print i think we just put out a new true believer's volume our single issue reprinting this annual it is fantastic or on the marvel comics unlimited app yep yeah any marvel comics unlimited uh subscribers out there yeah i see some of you i am as well i love it i i would just i was reading i was rereading some spidey on the plane coming out here because we're both new yorkers yep um like peter yeah it's true uh and uh thank you any other new yorkers here okay there we go i like that corner over there well done um but it's an incredible comic treat yourself um but as you were getting into cb uh that the comic the characters were aging kind of along with the comic as it came out and so we get to

16:16 amazing spider-man 28 where peter graduates from high school yep so people forget it was only a few short years that he was in high school before he graduated in the comics 28 issues of amazing spider-man plus amazing fantasy 15. he's that he's only in high school for that long like two and two years and change and he graduates high school and i remember going again reading that blew my mind and then and so we see it here this is still stan and steve of course you introduced the molten man who's liz allen's half brother and if we were doing this in marvel comics today in marvel time we'd have like two years before he even goes to college he'd be joining his summer vacation he'd have a job you know he'd be having all kinds of trouble yeah but no no in spider-man an amazing

17:03 spider-man back then yep and then you get him in college like only three issues later and amazing spider-man 31 peter goes to college for the first time and he meets uh there are a couple major characters that we meet for the first time in amazing spider-man 31 can i can i have anyone shout out out there gwen stacy and harry osborne absolutely we meet two of the most important characters in spider-man history here in asm-31 stan and steve still uh still creating absolute comic book magic and leading into my the next this and the next couple issues are my favorite issues of amazing spider-man with doc ock as the master planner and spider-man lifting up the

17:49 unliftable weight to get out of there so one of the greatest moments in comic book history uh and this is also around the time though that that steve ditko just a few issues later in amazing spider-man 38 is his final issue and we get our first creator change in amazing spider-man history and who starts drawing amazing spider-man 39 john romita senior as we call him these days absolutely at the time he was just jazzy john ramita uh and he came on and it was a seismic change for spider-man i mean one of the greatest illustrators of all time one of the greatest comic book storytellers of all time one of the greatest creators of all time and one of his creations is right there on the screen the rhino and i love the rhino comic comic book

18:35 characters and comic book series are often defined by the artists that are on them for runs yup um and that goes for all comic books you know uh but especially for spider-man there's been such classic runs by such creators some lengthy runs and we'll get into that a little bit later but you know uh stevens and uh and stan came to the end and john came on here and again we'll uh you just look at some of the changes that stylistically artistically that he brought uh to spider-man back then yeah like we said we said before on the left is steve ditko's peter parker he's got glasses he's skinny he looks a bit nerdy maybe but then on the right you got john romita and i don't think john romita has drawn a non-good-looking person in his entire life i mean like peter's handsome uh even

19:21 harry's kind of handsome in his own way there and in the next slide we've got gwen stacy and she's beautiful as steve drewer but she is just like unbelievably beautiful under in the pencil and ink of john romita yep and then you know in in my opinion and don't boo me you know gwen stacy will be the eternal love of peter parker's life however yep soon after this we met yep who do we meet all right mary j mary jane watson uh i mean this we we saw glimpses of her uh as steve ditko was still on and steve would always do this trick we'd never show we'd he would have people talk about uh aunt may's friend anna watson's niece

20:09 um but we never saw her he'd always hide her behind stuff but it but this was a kind of a classic bit if i'm if i'm right yeah a lot of a big cartoon back in the day uh in the 60s was called lil abner yeah and that was a gag that stan and steve both liked from little abner where they would talk about things but never reveal it leave the reader guessing day to day because it was a daily strip about what what who that person was and never show them and stan and steve kind of kept that gag going uh here like the great beauty like the lavender the great beauty but they'd never want to show her because then you'd never live up to it like like you could never draw her beautiful enough and that was kind of what steve was doing here but uh john romita was up for the challenge i mean look at mary jane and her very first on panel appearance error you know one of the iconic uh lines of

20:55 course in in in comics even in fictional history face it tiger you just hit the jackpot and then uh you know everyone thought that peter parker was this you know kind of nerdy high school kid but look at look at him here a couple years later he's doing just fine yeah he's doing just fine he gets the interest of two of the most glamorous and beautiful women in comic book history unbelievable but yeah he didn't but but john i i should say this i said before that john never drew anyone that wasn't incredibly handsome uh but he could also draw villainous people who looked really scary such as one of the greatest villains in comic book history the kingpin yeah any kingpin fans out there oh a little thing so we

21:40 i got in yesterday from new york and i went to went to eat dinner at the park at disneyland and while walking around after i got to from the first time around the millennium falcon ride which was awesome but on the walk to money and falcon ride we saw vincent d'onofrio himself walking around disneyland yesterday it was so cool to see him uh and and just to kind of like like have a like oh look it's vincent yeah uh but he was just down on the marvel studios stage with charlie cox we're talking a little bit more about uh daredevil born again the new d-plus show coming next year uh but the thing with that is that uh from later in the in the 80s on kingpin became mostly known as a daredevil villain as we expanded on into the netflix shows and onto the d plus screen uh but he started as an amazing

22:26 spider-man film and he would he was there for a long time an amazing spider-man and and johnny uh and stan created him and it was and what a creation he ended up being an ongoing villain for spidey like you said until the 80s when they when the spidey creators kind of stopped using them as much and frank miller came on the scene and put him in daredevil and it's the rest is history but we also are getting in the same time period where spider-man expands beyond just comic books beyond amazing ooh because stan's role evolved at marvel yes he at the time he was writing and editing just about everything but then his role became to expanded right cb yep exactly so you know you all know now marvel as this you know giant company that has our hands and our

23:11 characters in every kind of medium from you know comics to film to tv to animation to games to bed sheets to underwear and it could go on and on and on underwear um but you know you have to remember back then in the in the late 60s was when uh hollywood was just dipping its toe into looking for content and marvel was at the front and stan would make regular trips out to hollywood uh to really try and sell uh spider-man uh beyond just the printed page and one of the first things that i'm sure some of you remember uh there we go uh is there is the original cartoon series yep like with the theme song classic the animation classic i love when you'd see spider-man like i was sadly not alive yet for it i'm far too young uh but uh but

23:57 but i remember watching i've watched a bunch since then and you see spider-man swinging across the screen no buildings to be found where his webs were above the tops of the buildings you see him swinging but such a classic show and i loved and we'll get into uh some of the places where we've seen him since the moment in into the spider-verse so they got the the meme meme making uh spider-man pointing at each other um but this cartoon is just incredible and seeing jay jonah jameson on the small and like the tv screen so cool i think that's the first time i've heard you say spider-verse in a normal voice i mispronounced it you're right yeah does anyone know the correct pronunciation for that word there you go spider verse that's how you correctly pronounce it i'm so you guys you all must have been confused with what i was talking about there since i pronounced it so poorly thank you ryan

24:42 panagos there we go agent m himself is here um and what's the day before friday thor's day of course thor's day uh i that's that you know one of my one of my quirks i refuse to call it what the what much of the world calls that day it is only thor's day uh to me anyway moving on sorry but as much as we talk about tv it always comes back to comics the comics the beating heart of marvel to me the beating heart of the world is comic books and so we come back and one of the coolest things uh stan and an artist gil kane has now come on to the book and gill tell this incredible story in amazing spider-man 90 one of the most intense and heartbreaking issues of spider-man

25:28 history asm 90 whereas the death of captain stacy police captain george stacy he dies spidey's fighting doc ock on the roof he uses a new fluid that comes out of his web shooter that makes doc ox arms fight each other and fight him and while spidey defeats doc they knock some bricks off the roof and captain stacey knocks a little boy out of the way and gets crushed by these bricks and spidey gets him out just as he's dying and he reveals that he's known his identity all along so much for the secret he knew that peter parker was spider-man and he kept that secret he didn't turn him in even though spider-man was a criminal in the eyes of the police and he sells them to to take care of gwen stacy which he does right

26:14 well we'll get to that later he does really well for about 30 issues at least i would say which is a lifetime if you're talking these early comics right true that's true but you know the other thing that um that stan and all his co-collaborators were never uh you know um never shy never shy about was addressing real world issues you know it was marvel is the real world you know uh it takes place in mostly new york city has expanded out since then but you know it's the world outside the world outside your window because stan really wanted people to believe that you could put the comic book down and think that spider-man would swing by or iron man would fly by so you know they were they would address some real world topics and and back in the day in the late 60s uh you know in the early 70s the the drug epidemic was everywhere it was on the news and it was affecting real people uh and and invading uh college campuses yep

27:01 so stanford uh you know which is one of the main like hotbeds of of popularity for the marvel comics stan would go and do lectures at college campuses all around the country um where this drug epidemic was hitting and so they put a story in there with harry osborne um as a drug user and they where they delve into the horrors of drug use and what it can do to your life it's it's another harrowing story uh that goes places that comics didn't go at that time comics didn't really delve into that very often um but but stan showed his courage uh as a storyteller and did it there um and then and it's around this time also that the the the uh job of writer of amazing spider-man changed hands yep so you know as we said earlier stan was was busy in

27:46 the late 60s uh trying to expand the marvel brand and get the characters in different mediums so he was spending a lot more time uh out on the west coast and ended up ended up coming out here almost semi-permanently at this point so uh his protege jerry conway came on and took over the writing duties of uh spider-man uh back in the day and one of his chief stories he wanted to tell he wanted to to show again the the the depth of what comics as an art form can go to and the tragedies that that even comic books can take you to and the greatest tragedy probably in marvel comics history i would think the death of spidey's girlfriend gwen stacy at the hands of the green goblin and uh it is one of the most

28:32 uh touching and heartbreaking moments in comic book history as gwen dies and it shakes spider-man to his core uh and there's there's another kind of urban legend out there there's some people who there sometimes has been told that stan didn't know this was happening and was furious when it happened but i don't think that's the case no yeah the the story goes that you know when when reader reaction was very negative about this that that stan had come back from a trip from here or he come back and he said oh i was on a trip from to europe for a long time i didn't know a single thing about this and they did this kind of almost behind his back and that's definitely not true and stan himself has confirmed that or he had confirmed that he was there and that he read it before it left uh and and and loved the story and and saw thought it was incredibly

29:18 powerful and and then another bit of trivia too for you out there um what bridge was it that gwen was thrown off of yes in the comic itself and this is so crazy in the comic itself it names as a george washington bridge but what bridge did gil kane draw the brooklyn bridge and uh and so it like trying to dig into to what happened there it's really hard to even say uh but even there were editions of this that marvel published afterwards that corrected it to the brooklyn bridge uh very soon after in the in the coming years after uh amazing spider-man 121 came out where they they changed it in the comics to brooklyn and ever since then uh with some exceptions uh that we've referred to it as the brooklyn bridge but when in the very first print

30:03 it was said the george washington bridge which is on the completely opposite end of manhattan toward the brooklyn bridges and there was also another thing i was at a convention recently where jerry conway was talking about this issue and he said that him and uh john senior who who drew the issue who inked it right yeah yeah sorry him and john senior because john senior introduced or was a huge fan of gwen and was always upset about this uh we're still always at odds about how gwen stacy died because after he inked it they didn't put the snap the neck thing in it was it did the green goblin killer when she fell off the bridge or did peter grabbing her with the web um snapped her neck and they said that they still argue about that and they still debate about that and in the comics it has been confirmed that she was dead already that that that several times that the gree

30:49 goblin killed her and spidey did that but that is still a fan debate that rages from the publishing of this comic exactly and then you know during this time as marvel continued to grow uh beyond just the comic book line it continued to grow in the comic book line as well because there was only that one spider-man title for a long time but then suddenly as uh as the the spider-man's popularity continue to grow and grow we got multiple spider-man titles that started coming out over a period of years we had marvel team-up and then then they showed that they which is always spider-man and someone else um but that wasn't it because not long after we got peter parker the spectacular spider-man written by jerry conway uh and it was um and this is the first time really that marvel had experimented having two

31:34 monthly comics starring the same character um but it wasn't just in comics because it's right around there that as some of our audience mentioned the electric company came out with new animated tales of spider-man on tv as the popularity of spider-man got larger and larger in the culture uh in the culture at large but it always came back to the comics it always came back and then so spider-man graduated high school spider-man went to college and then about a little four years later maybe in 185 the peter parker graduates from college so 185 so you so he's a little bit more than they were getting more into marvel time at this point yeah yeah so things started stretching out a little bit longer um he was there for what about

32:20 probably about 10 years at that point so he was in college for 10 years um but uh like pluto from animal house you know there we go yeah we can all relate to some of us get related to being in college longer than usual um but you know so as as the comics kept charging and kept telling like more and more incredible stories it once again branched out into the greater culture at large as in 1977 we had the live action television series with nicholas hammond as spider-man eddie who who all watched that show big fans out there yeah absolutely what what a cool show that i love the design of that of the spider-man they used for that tv show it was such a cool show uh this was my i remember when this uh this started on tv yeah so yeah so neat

33:05 i love that the shape of it of his lens there it looks so awesome um and uh and while this while this is going on we also the debut of the newspaper strip stan and john uh they kicked it out into newspapers around the country as it became i mean i remember like it was so this was right around 67 as well and um and i mean i remember in the 80s me i like as i first began to read reading that every day in my newspaper the spider-man comic strip it's incredible stan wrote that for years as well yep um and john did incredible art there as more and more of the country got to know spider-man as as a just a pop culture phenomenon and this was one of those instances too very early on where the

33:51 comic book series were multiple series running at the same time and they were all in a connected universe but the strip was a little bit separate yeah he was doing it telling different stories at a different pace uh so it was kind of almost the multiverse coming to be born here so it was it was two different uh continuities that were happening at that time and it wasn't just uh between the two coasts where spider-man was starting to get popular uh he started having worldwide comics appeal and then character appeal so yeah uh you know spider-man uh did us they came up with a sentai series uh in japan at this time standard flown over and uh worked on it with touhou productions uh this introduced uh the giant robot leopardon yeah and his spaceship and his ship the marvelar so cool and this really set the tone uh

34:38 there's there's uh you can read all about it online about how this kind of set the tone for a lot of the uh later sentai series uh you know if for things like you know uh power rangers uh ultraman uh not ultraman sorry uh uh kamen rider things like that uh and also if you're interested in the origin of this uh japanese spider-man series there's a uh episode of marvel 616 on uh disney plus has a full documentary with a lot of the actors the producers uh from back on in the day that gives you so much fun information about the creation of uh of this show it's incredible the documentary is incredible the show is incredible it is insane he comes from planet x uh like it's it's the villains are crazy and fun and awesome uh and so treat yourself to

35:24 watching that documentary and then watching some shows it is well worth it but you know as as our common reference it's still all about the comics the comics are always driving it one of the most uh you know iconic series for any spider-man fan uh is probably this one here the kid who collected spider-man and this is just uh yet another uh example of how not every story is about the hero winning um you know in in the real world again going back to telling stories about this this is a story about a kid who had cancer uh and whose one wish was to kind of meet uh spider-man and peter parker knowing this kid uh you know is a big fan uh comes into his room and talks to him and tells about spider-man and reveals his identity uh to the boy it's such a powerful story i

36:11 just reread it on my airplane out here and it you know it's it's an incredible issue it's got it's got a thunderball story and then it's got the kid who collects spiderman if you haven't read it treat yourself because it's beautiful and you know again it's just the villains aren't always physical in this case the villain being cancer ends up winning in the end tragically um but again reinforce this as one of the strongest stories are told by uh roger stern and ron friends and ron friends so if you if you haven't read this story highly recommend it's it's it's really how emotional and how gripping a comic book story can be without much superhero action and it holds up it definitely holds up it's half that issue it's incredible and now spider-man is traditionally known for his red and blue costume but there was a period in the 80s during a little event called secret wars where

36:58 there was a color change one of the first major costume shifts for spider-man happen in secret wars where he gets this black costume on an alien planet uh and it leads to some incredible stories yeah and originally uh there was this issue was secret words was teased in a comic series almost uh marvel's putting out a news magazine about some of the upcoming stuff back in the day called marvel age and the com the costume was originally black and red yeah uh but they thought that was a little too similar so uh during the production uh early production uh of of issue of this issue issue eight uh they decided to change it uh to black and white and if i recall i think it's rick leonardi a design that is the black and the red that's right yeah it's so incredible and then uh here oh jesus why am i the name

37:45 is escape from the edge we just talked to mike zack oh yeah my exact drawing secret wars yep and now uh so spider-man was introduced to the black costume the symbio as it later became to be known uh came back and wore the black costume it's amazing spider-man 252 which eventually eventually led to the creation of venom and many venom fans out there yes one of the greatest villains in spider-man history in marvel history absolutely it's just so incredible so scary so terrifying uh and i mean and it also is during the kind of introduction of todd mcfarlane as an artist and we'll get more into todd as this goes along as well but michelini and and and mcfarlane they bring you venom they take the black

38:32 costume they put it on who who wears the venom symbiote eddie brock yep oh my gosh and what uh what a crazy history that character has had uh we are in we live in venom's world right now not only the the the movies those insanely awesome movies but in the comics right now we we're we we came to one seminal end of a venom ongoing series where because as over the years venom becomes a hero in his own right and and now we're with you know donnie cates and ryan segment finish they're running right now we're in a run with al ewing ram v and brian hitch it's incredible to see his journey uh i know it was around this time too so not only did we meet what would become one of spider-man's greatest villains which was one of the down times of his life but spider-man this time also had

39:18 one of the happiest moments true life well short-lived but what kind of long lived long lived right but we get the marriage of peter parker and mary jane watson now the f the story behind this is kind of fun because the way that it was always told to me in the way that i think it's come out in history is that stan wanted to do it in the newspaper strip and they were trying to decide well but if we're going to do the newspaper strip we should do it in the comics and it was one of those times where those two stories kind of came together and it is incredible the way this happened um and and the dress i believe it wasn't willie brown who designed it yeah willie willie brown is on the dress yep who is an amazing fashion designer he is incredible uh his design is so gorgeous but it wasn't only in the strip and in

40:04 the comic they got they we had the marriage in real life so yeah they hired actors to play uh peter spider spider-man and mary jane and then look at the attendees of the wedding there in that middle panel so you have his amazing friends ice man you got fire star there right but the hulk captain america is hanging out in the back to kind of object to the marriage yeah the green goblin yeah they shouldn't invite green goblin to the wedding he should be on the no list i mean he would definitely have said something to speak now or forever hold your peace yeah exactly so yeah this became national news i mean it was just not is it chase stadium where the mets played at the time any new york mets fans out there we got a few we got a few i'm a mets fan i'm a fan of the cleveland guardians i'm

40:50 a fan of the new york hats uh because i grew up in cleveland and i live in queens now uh and you got to be a mets fan they're they're so they're incredible anyway so they got married at shea stadium kind of cake and everything yep it's true and had a huge party after that uh i was just sad i couldn't have been there at that time that would be amazing so we go from one of his greatest villains to that moment to one of the happiest moments of his life yeah to one of the most tragic stories in spanish history um you know craven's last haunt oh my god this uh jm demitayus mike zak tell one of the greatest stories in spider-man history craven's last hunt it went over three of amazing three of spider-man series an amazing web of and spectacular and and it

41:37 bridged between those three over six parts uh what an incredible story that's another one that i reread on the plane coming out here to get ready for this panel and it it it holds up so well and it still packs a heck of a punch um where and i don't want to spoil the end of it because if you haven't read it do yourself a favor probably not for the youngest children in the crowd yeah exactly uh there's all kinds of crazy stuff craven hits spidey with a dart that has crazy hallucinogenic drugs in it it's it's wild but if you haven't read it treat yourself it is unbelievably good and and jm is doing a sequel for next year uh craven the lost hunt yep the lost time it takes place in a very particular moment in spitey history so you got to

42:23 go pick this up it's going to be it's going to be wonderful and now we were talking earlier about the creators really defining uh spider-man and here you know going forward we get into some creators who have become you know synonymous with the spider-man uh in in the 90s from left to right we've got todd mcfarlane yep any big todd mcfarlane fans out there i know i am todd is here at the show he was down he's doing a line of avatar figures so he was here at the show doing something awesome and then in the middle we have eric larson and eric larson fans out there yes and on the right we've got mark bagley and mark bagley fans out there yes mark bagley who is still to this day drawing spider-man it's true it's true uh and doing a great job he's launching a spider-man book that comes out in october but more on that later we i

43:10 don't even know if we're going to get to that later in this panel we got to start speeding up we do i know these people are here waiting for something else from us it's true it's true so uh todd mcfarlane uh wrote and draw his own spider-man series that that not only was one of the biggest series launches of its time uh as far as the importance of comics but it was also the highest selling comic at that time of all time because it sold 2.5 million copies so mind-blowing such an incredible comic that's another one to seek out if you haven't if you haven't read it before the art is unbelievable the story's unbelievable so cool so crazy that cover uh it just it just burned into your retina when you saw it yeah it has been homage so many times from all different media

43:56 all different artists all the true companies so so getting back we talked about venom before but venom wasn't the end of this the story of symbiotes because venom spawned garnet carnage one of the scariest characters of all time well who is the host of carnage vanessa it is cassidy serial killer is cell mates next door to eddie brock and as the symbiote joined with cletus it became carnage led to some of the most intense stories of all time maximum carnage so much great stuff but this was kind of like getting to something like again with that 2.5 million copies of spider-man you'd think that spider-man couldn't get any bigger but he did he did and soon after we had the animated

44:42 90s spider-man animated fans of this yeah wow nice my kids i i have three little kids and they've gotten into this series now too it's on disney plus if you haven't watched it it's incredible it also holds up it's so great um but this was a huge part of spider-man history that came out um and then as this animated series came out we got to another one of the biggest stories that had its roots way back in spitey because when somebody was in college one of his professors was well there was professor connors but no miles warren we heard out there miles warren who was also the jackal and he cloned peter parker and he cloned gwen stacy and at the end of that story you'd think that you saw

45:28 the end of these clones but you didn't but no one of the most beloved and or hated spider-man stories of all time the clone saga clone saga you met ben reilly that spider cl well you met ben riley who was either that spider clone back from that story way back when or the true spider-man uh who anyway who thinks that ben reilly is a true spider-man we got some who thinks peter parker is now well you might not know but for some time it was purported that ben reilly was and that ended up not being the case in the comics uh but it was a long-running story that that sold as much as it was controversial it sold huge um but that was one of the biggest stories of the 90s as over the several

46:15 years of the 90s leading to we're coming up on some of the other biggest moments in spider-man history yeah there was also always even to this day as nick and i edit you know talk comics and talk to writers it's about keeping the ideas fresh and always making sure that there's new their new reader friendly is a term that gets thrown around a lot and it's making sure that people don't feel that the spider spider-man universe or the marvel universe is impenetrable they see the movies they you know play the video games they want to read the comics but that we have to make sure the comics feel that they're for everybody that you could come in and not be bogged down by if you know 50 60 years of history uh so it was around this time in the early 90s uh that we introduced ultimate spider-man uh which people might know was that anyone's first comic here ultimate spider-man a couple there's a couple people yeah

47:01 ultimate spider-man's what got me back into comics i i loved the x-men when i was in middle school uh that and before that i read some of distinguished competition stuff but that was never where my heart was but it was when they put these ultimate comics both ultimates spider-man and the ultimates uh online at marvel.com you could read the comics there and ultimate spider-man incredible brian michael bendis mark bagley told some of the most incredible spider-man stories and this is when i started i was in the ultimate office when i started at marvel yep there we go uh and that started in 2000 right yep yep yeah this slide is blank oh all right oh and it came out just before the movies started coming out uh we had

47:47 the sam raimi directed spider-man i think some people in here have seen the spider-man movies yes and several incarnations of it we had toby maguire as spider-man for three movies uh we had andrew garfield as spider-man for two movies yup went into the spider verse with miles an incredible cast for one movie and some more coming up yep and then we've had tom holland for three movies [Music] [Applause] now i don't want to ask the question about who everyone's favorite spider-man is no we're getting too much trouble if we do that we're getting too much trouble uh and and this made spider-man a cultural juggernaut the likes of which no one has ever seen like everyone around the world

48:33 in large part due to like the animated series and then these several series of movies everyone around the world knows who spider-man is and that has been that's so incredible to see as a fan and as an editor uh and all that kind of stuff that the this character that started as like a backup feature in a comic has become this cultural juggernaut is just so amazing to me but it always comes back to the comics exactly and the creators who are the lifeblood of comics two of those creators in in not only in the early 2000s uh that we also want to talk about is he he had started in the in the 80s uh with around we have john romita jr so the son of john romita senior who came on early in spider-man's co-creator

49:19 of hobgoblin of so many also incredible characters uh who drew him in this in the in the 70s in the 80s and today and we'll get into that later but it also had the spider-man debut of one of the other greatest spider-man artists of all time umberto ramos we got some fans here and umberto where are you alberto's here somewhere ladies and gentlemen spider-man legend roberto ramos in the house alberto is going to be signing downstairs later at 5 30. 5 30. in the in the celebrity what's it called celebrity corner i don't know talent central it's it's it's just like i said right uh talent central yeah so come we'll be down there along with umberto you've got to get him to sign

50:06 some comics and we'll be talking about some covers you all might have a comic soon enough that he's gonna be able to sign for you uh two other great artists and then two runs two very controversial story lines which still people talk about to this day and that's the best thing for us is when we create stories that really polarize the audience with polarized readers and fandom and get them talking and fans still debate from one side or the other should peter and mary jane be married or not because in uh in one more day they were they were split up yeah so that covers by joe casada one more day's story where where their their marriage was dissolved through uh through supernatural means it is a lightning rod of a story like you said and it led into another huge era uh which is brand new day when amazing spider-man came out three times a month uh created a bunch

50:51 of new villains said said a whole lot of things going um and it led to uh to umberto ramos alongside writer dan slott who came in any fans of this 10-year run right here big time umberto and dan introduced some new costumes that introduced new characters new stories it led to the mind swap of classic spider-man villain dr otto octavius and spider-man and the superior spider-man which is one of my favorite stories of all time any superior spider-man fans here which which is one of those things this was you know one of the comics where it was very the internet was very heavily involved in this comic it was the first time where you kind of heard about a lot of trolls talking about superior spider-man because they didn't even read the comic because they said oh otto

51:37 octavius dr octopus is taking over spider-man's brain oh that's dumb that's stupid that's the worst story ever that's going to be terrible no one's going to like that we got a lot of slack for it and then people actually read the comic and that was considered one of the best spider-man stories of all time all time so don't trust the internet i wish i wish i'd worked on it i i came in at the very very end as spider editor on the last three issues of of the main superior series but i remember when dan i first read dan's plot i cried in the second the second last issue of that superior spider-man story is one of the best spider-man issues of all time as well i cried when i read the plot i cried when the art came in i cried when i read the script in the comic altogether it is so beautiful and so awesome you have to you have to read it it's nuts and it's so wonderful um

52:23 but that wasn't the only major story going on at that time either no it's a new character that we introduced that most people tend to know and love yeah miles morales morales fans yes i know i am so in the ultimate universe ultimate peter parker died miles morales took up the mantle of spider-man and changed history proved forever and always that anyone could be underneath that mask uh what an incredible character and it drove home the coolness and the importance of the multiverse and and kind of uh and this was of course uh miles was co-created by brian michael mendes and sarah pikelli but it paved the way for one of my favorite stories one of the ones that i worked on from the very beginning spider-verse uh yep where we introduced spider-gwen

53:10 any spider-gwen fans out there just before then uh silk which was a character that alberto co-created with dan slott out there was introduced years earlier actually cb and i worked on it spider-man india was created but all these characters from the multiverse came together to be part of spider-verse where they fought spo spiders man which is just a thousand so well he came in spiders in spider-geddon which is a different story spider-gun and is another really cool story but a spider's man is a thousand spiders that take the form of a human uh and think that they're kind of a human but this spider-verse story spawned the movie spider-man into the spider-verse i'm sure everybody here has seen spider-man

53:56 were you talking about you think you pronounced that wrong spider-man into the what spider-verse there we go all right you got me to do it there we go got him got him and it's crazy like you know once once when i was a kid spider-man comics didn't like there weren't many like spider-man there were no movies right but now that there are these movies if sometimes it feels like the stories they tell are all 60 years old or 40 years old but spider-verse came out in 2014 it was only four years later that spider-man into the spider-verse came out yep crazy uh but also in other media took spider-man on like the amazing ps4 sony video games spider-man incredible and another quick turnaround in comics

54:41 in we met mr negative in in 2007 and asm 546 and again what is it 11 years later he shows up in the video game so cool on the next slide you'll see him him and spidey fighting on a very accurate new york subway car i think bill roseman the games team have been here this weekend had some great marvel games announcements too oh my gosh those are incredible uh so excited and now nick moving on to some of your new uh new highlights yes so we just back uh early this year launched a new amazing spider-man number one written by zeb wells drawn by john ramita jr in the honor of the 60th anniversary we kicked off this this new volume um and i'm so excited about it it's such an

55:28 incredible volume zeb is if he's not i don't think he's in the house here zeb are you in here no nope i don't think he's here yet but he's on his way here right now and he'll be at that signing at talent central there we go at 5 30. you come down and you can get his signature as well and we very recently did amazing spider-man legacy 900. yeah it is a callback it is uh our inspiration for it and zeb's inspiration for it uh was the amazing spider-man annual number one and he and uh artist ed mcguinness did their love letter to the amazing spider-man annual number one we bring back the sinister six the original sinister six and they're joined and spider-man has to join them and become part of the sinister seven what

56:17 pick it up it's incredible it's one of the biggest stories we've told all year it is the main story is uh is 70 pages long one 70 page story that's all zeb all ed mcginnis it's nuts and it's wonderful and we'll actually i'm not even going to get into what else is in that issue because we'll be talking about it later because we are going to be down on another uh thing down at the live stream at the live stream booth down on the main floor so come by and see us um but coming up but i got we got to tease stuff here too uh coming up this december is dark web it is a huge spider-man story it's a huge x-men story so we did a story called spider amazing spider-man beyond where ben reilly has returned and he got

57:02 turned into a new spidey villain called chasm through this through a bunch of machinations uh you see him he's got the glowing green eyes on this image that you're seeing here so the most famous spider clone of all time gets together with the most famous x clone of all time madeleine pryor any readers of inferno back in the day out there yes well the inferno the embers of the inferno light again and they are turned into a new flame which is the dark web and madeleine and ben spin a new dark web over the city of new york venom gets into it of course al ewing and rob v got in on the action i think kamala khan is involved as well ms marvel marvel exactly uh we get black cat and mary

57:48 jane are a huge part of it with a new black cat and mary jane series starting up um and we got a new character called hallows eve that you'll meet in amazing spider-man 14 for the first time we've shown her on some coverage you can go look it up hallow's eve she is so cool and thanks to ryan stegman for the the prima promo image here yup yup anyone was anyone here in two years or three years ago at uh at the panel that tom brevort and i did here in 2019 i see some hands all right well as you know at that panel we gave out a free exclusive comic the only time that mickey mouse and the mar the disney characters allowed to cross over with the marvel characters are here at d23 so at the end of this panel in a few minutes everybody here will be getting not one but two exclusive comics

58:35 cover's drawn by alberto ramos himself down over here look at us one cover is of spider-man uh you know gifting the the d100 cake to the original six in the disney uh crew please look for a lot of easter eggs back in the bookshelf when you get this and the second is a follow-up with the the disney characters gifting spider-man and the amazing uh his amazing cast of characters the avengers their uh their spidey 60th cake um what we would kindly ask is when you do leave please only take one have fun take one of each you get both covers but last year people took multiples and we ran out so uh so please keep that in mind yeah um one per person so that everyone can get one that's very important cover yeah and um and that's the cover for two amazing fantasy 1000 which is our 60th

59:21 anniversary celebration it just came out last week it's got a story by neil gaiman it's got a story by veep creator armando iannucci it's an unbelievable comic michael cho has a story who we talked about exactly any spidey and his amazing friends fans out there yep my kids love it uh kids around the world love it it's incredible check it out on disney plus and we're running on time we have one more video to share with you because in san diego there is an incredible museum exhibit called spiderman beyond amazing and we got a video you got to go to this exhibit it's so cool it's with our friends at semel who have been doing wonderful things for us in exhibitions around the world and if you're a marvel insider hang around too [Applause]

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