Mei Kalvi l Cognisance Intro and Guru Darisanam l P2

0:00 It's pretty good, right? >> Do you want to explain this faster? Um my understanding is uh the heart that is always the heart here is mind that's always in the falsehood. Um Vedam is by reciting and being in journey with Veda. It shows you the light of the part to MTI and moka. Nare maki

0:47 is nar means hell and the hell is within us and to become human. You will understand more while being in journey and being in communication. As we are reciting and understanding the lesson of Va

1:40 Can you also share the meaning of what you just said? come finish the um explanation of the veam with >> uh the English translation is henceforth this humble servant of Vam understand the wisdom of highest knowledge to continue the journey of liberation and I complete my s summary >> excellent thank you so I'll sum up what Jay and Um PMA has said about the swastag from falsehood to truth is where we are

2:28 traveling transiting through the knowledge through the communication of God through the vedasum through the scriptures of truth. Nare here is uh nar naragam is hell. So nare are people of hell. So who are the people of hell? So many examples through whatever verses we've seen so far. There's so many examples. There's examples of like wallowing street peddlers. people in arguments.

3:16 So the ones who argue, the ones who anger, the ones who compare, the ones who judge, the ones who find conflict and separation, all of this is qualities of naraka, qualities of hell. Ones who are in shame, ones who are in guilt, all of these are qualities in of hell. Qualities of the people in hell. Look around. Look within. Don't have to look around. Look within. Do we have these qualities? Of course we do. That's why we're here. We find we trying to find and seek a way out of these. So nar is us. We are the people of that hell of this hell. Hell is not a place away somewhere else.

4:02 Hell is here in our minds. So we are tuning this mind into becoming Makal Makal is human. So from being an animal, a human animal, we are shifting that perspective of the mind to a human being. And the verse is saying from a human being, you're shifting your mind to a divine being. So from a person who is has the nature of hell of an animal is shifting to a human nature and from there he's shifting to a divine nature through understanding the vasagum through understanding the veum that's what this is what they're trying

4:47 to portray and how does that happen from moving from the lies po so from moving from lies to the truth. Not just the lie that we say when we steal $5 to buy candy when we were kids and then we lie. So the moment we steal, we have to lie about it. No one ever steals and does not lie. It goes hand in hand. It's like Romeo Juliet of stealing, right? So we lie about that. It's not that it's not just talking about that lie. So that's where the lie starts. But then the lie that we are living in, I need to earn a living. I need to do this this all this false and facade purposes that we have created in our mind and we are running a rat race

5:32 chasing that inquire your truth. Did you set up this as your truth or is this the truth that you came here to live? So they're talking about start to differentiate the real truth and the asset. So sat and assat. So what is the lie that you're living in? What is the truth that you're living in? So start moving in the direction of the truth. Okay people, my dear people, this does not mean you quit your jobs tomorrow. Does not mean you walk away from your families and renounce your children. This is not what this is about. All this is happening in your mind. Okay? So identify these things in your mind. Don't leave anything. Everything that you are in is because you're karmically

6:19 tied to all of this. It will leave you on its own course of time. You don't have to do anything. You just have to identify your own truth. So the work is inwards not outwards. Okay? Work of maidam vantam is inwards not outwards. Because there are people when you look outside they will leave their families, they will leave their household. They will leave their jobs. They'll empty their finances, bank accounts and they'll go and sit in an ashram or in the mountains and then start meditating for liberation. All of that is in the mind. The mind is not in all of it. All of that is in the mind. So when we untangle

7:07 all of that here, we become free here. I'm pointing to the head. The mind is not in the head. I'm just pointing for the sake of giving an identity to that mind. Okay. Excellent. Well done everyone. Everyone managed to say one was by memory most of us. And for the ones who were struggling a little bit, it's okay. In the beginning, it's a bit like that. But that's when you have to understand where you are at with your vasagum. Uh I have a little bit of housekeeping to do. So I'll start with that. just five or six points to explain and then what we're going to do how this sub how this uh class this session is going to go is by talking about what we have understood

7:53 from the beginning till now and we'll take turns to go about okay I'll tell you how we will structure it so that you can follow that same structure so it's more effective and efficient so we can all learn from each other okay first thing is the three um the three most important precepts of healing warrior tribe. What are the three most important precepts of healing warrior tribe? Can someone un unmute and speak this loudly please? >> Anyone, >> respect, devotion, discipline. >> Thank you Gatri. What does that mean? >> Go for it. That's right. >> Respect to oneself to the other and the

8:38 tribe and the teachings. Then discipline also to oneself towards oneself tribe and teachings and devotion also in the same way. So it's like inside and outside this attributes should be reflecting is my understanding when there is an invite for a class and people don't show up and we have to do this class two times because people don't show up. Where would we where would we put that?

9:24 >> Is it a question for me? >> Yeah, you can answer the question. >> Okay. >> It's a question for all for all to think like where why are we show why are we not showing up? Where's the respect? I've invited you for dinner. I've cooked you a beautiful meal with the most nutritious and the most healthiest, the most organic ingredients that I can find in this entire cosmos. And then half of you don't show up for that dinner, that meal. Would we call that lack of respect, lack of discipline, and lack of devotion?

10:13 uh lack of respect. These are lessons the highest lessons that we could learn in this lifetime. My dear dear dear ones, this is the highest lessons that we can learn teachings that we can learn in this lifetime. We've taken many many many millions of lives to come to this lessons, these teachings. The more and more I'm going deeper in it is when I'm realizing how how heavy, how valuable the teachings are. And if we don't have the basic precepts that we learned when we started our journey with healing warrior tribe about respect and devotion and discipline, we're not going to make it very far.

11:00 the fact that none of you I mean some of you didn't even write to say why you were not able to attend it's like an invitation was given and it was just thrown in the bin okay this is the first thing I want to address please understand that this is you one day to the people that you'll be sharing the knowledge how you sew your seed now is how you'll reap the seed this is all adding into karma karma you're planting these seeds of ignorance disrespect not showing up. Okay, become aware because this part of the journey we this is basic guys. We don't want we don't want this to be hindering. It's an

11:46 obstacle to our journey into learning. Okay, so learn from this experience. Learn from this experience. Do you know why there is no duina for this? Has anyone thought like this guy is spending so much time and energy and effort he's going he's roaming around getting all the best sources of knowledge extracting with evidence from the most ancient texts in this planet and why is the this person not charging anything or like what what is the exchange that I have to give to receive this? Have you guys thought about this? Has this crossed your mind? Is is there anyone out there

12:32 who will give you anything for free in this world? Even your mother when she feeds you, she expects you to do some chore, some form of chore or some sort of return and exchange. It's a different thing when you're a baby. Even when you're a baby, she expects you to look cute and be, you know, be really cute so that she can go like, "Hey little fellow, how are you? You're so cute. If you kept crying 24/7, 365 days a year, she's going to abandon you, man. You got to be a cute baby so she can actually like you know at the times that you're being nasty brick hoofing and peeing everywhere and screaming and

13:17 carrying on. She doesn't mind breastfeeding you through her blood through her lack of sleep and all of that. There's always an exchange that's going on. There's a transaction that's going on in the world. But here in this in this space we are not asking for any transaction. Do you realize why has this thought crossed your mind? Because the weight the the richness of what we are learning cannot be exchanged for anything in this entire cosmos. There is nothing to exchange.

14:06 It is so valuable. There is nothing anything close to the value of it that can be exchanged with it. That's the weight of what we are learning. Which means we haven't come across anything in this living world that we are walking around like street peddlers. We're walking around. We haven't come across anything that is of that value that cannot be matched by something else of value. You buy a car, it's worth $40,000. It has a value. You do a master's degree or you do a you you go to college, there's a value to that education, $20,000 or $50,000 or whatever it is.

14:52 You buy food, $20. There's a value to the food that you're eating. You fall in love, there is a value to it. How beautiful was the bunch of roses and how many roses are in that bunch and how much is that cost? You get married, the diamond in the ring, the size of the diamond in the ring is the value of that engagement. Think about your entire life and everything holds a value to it. Parents understands this better because when they're constantly giving to their children and hoping that they will do better. There's a value to everything that has been given.

15:38 We will not talk about love because we have misunderstood love and we calling that as love. So that is a separate another another topic for a separate day. But under the name of love there's a lot of transactions that's going on. The only place there's no transactions going on is in the place when you have come to learn the purest form of knowledge to understand your own truth. The highest investment of your total life of this lifetime and all the lifetimes before and the lineage where you come from your entire ancestry. You're the one holding that beacon. So please place that importance to this teachings. So yeah, couldn't emphasize more. That's why you're not paying duction cuz it is

16:24 of that value. There is no amount of diamonds and gold and silver and electric cars and I don't know what else to say that's of value of this world anymore. The entire wealth of the cosmos cannot buy this knowledge. That's the value and it's coming to you at your comfort where you are. Okay? As it has come to me, it's coming to you. Okay? And one one day you will be giving it to someone and you will understand this. So please place this value. Okay? Third one is I know it's challenging again the

17:10 servant has been through this path. I know it is challenging. I know it is hard. I know it is outside of everything that we know. I know sometimes it can get uncomfortable. I know it puts us in places where it makes us feel a little bit depressed of our own self because we are not used to this kind of thing. We're used to hiding. We're used to protecting oursel. Who is doing all of that protecting? We're protecting that ego, that identity called I. So what really helped me to transition through this space? This adi and the servant also had a lot of ego. The

17:56 person you spoke to 2 years ago, a year ago, 5 years ago was a different person to the person you're talking now. same physical body but the mind has shifted into being from someone a person who's from hell shifting towards being a human. Are you able to gauge that? Most of you can see that right with the content that's coming with the compassion and kindness the level of depth of care that's happening the divinity that's coming you can see the transition of this is servant you will also go through that how the words that how it helped me is this this is the code words that help me

18:42 the first one is the first three words I spoke about respect devotion and discipline write this down If you don't have this, you don't have space in healing warrior tribe. We already know that that's the karmakanda side of things. That becomes your foundation. The next three words I have to give you is show up, accept and surrender. Show up to yourself, show up to the knowledge, show up to that grace. Accept whatever is coming. However it is coming, don't judge it. Don't be in conflict with it and surrender to that knowledge and surrender to that knowledge. Only in that surrender you have the grace of the

19:28 teacher. The teacher is the knowledge itself. The teachings itself is the know is the teacher. Right? If Christian who's never spoken Tamil can recite one of the complex it's a complex words by heart that is purely through the grace of that assan purely through the grace of guru Jay who's never spoken Tamil who does not even know how Tamil writings look until he came to Vedam is able to recite a vasagum and explain The truth absolute truth of that meaning of that verse is purely because of grace. It cannot come from the human. It cannot come from that animal intellect. Which means they're

20:14 shifting from being human from being animal towards becoming human. That's when this type of things happen. the the the kind of devotion that Chetna is putting towards wanting to farewell and trying though knowing that she's going to make mistakes. The kind of effort that G is putting that I have memory loss problem but I I'm going to try. Grace lifts them up. They lift it lifts every one of us up. Only when we show up to grace. Here the showing up is to grace. You have to show up to grace. Otherwise if you see it as a vidya like how you read any other subject in your life you

21:01 will fail. Because pass and fail is only in a praavidya. in paravidya. Apraavidya is all the studies that we've done in our mortal life, in our worldly life, going to college and school and doing 12 years of education, five years of post education and then getting a master's, PhD, whatever else we study is all paravidya. There's the pass or a fail. You know, they'll fail you. You have to redo that exam. So, you have to redo that degree. In paravidya, there is no pass or fail. There's just grace. So wherever you are at, everyone is accepted. Everyone is in. There is no qualifications who is in or not.

21:47 Start revisiting the attributes of the student of Vam. Please refrain from calling yourself Vanti because that is another identity which the ego loves to hold on to. I have done that. That's how I know because the sasis that I learned from when I was learning from them, they asked they they kept telling me that I'm a vanti. So I thought oh I must be a vanti it sounds really cool. So I started introducing myself as I'm I'm I'm a Vanti and then by mistake I think at in the beginning I must have called all of you a Vanti as well because that lingering effects of that was still there reminiscence of that was there only

22:33 until I was shown by Assam saying that that is also a an identity so we taking VM and creating an ego identity see how tricky this mind is very tricky So become aware of this. Okay. So three things respect devotion discipline to as a foundation, show up, accept and surrender. If you are able to hold on to these three words, it will guide you and guide you through this whole journey. No matter how difficult and challenging it might be, it will take care of you. Jay, go for it.

23:19 Oh, I have a question about the ego because we are learning transcendental knowledge and I have trouble getting even like in some situations like just in my life like for example on my team I'm trying to get my point across because I feel like it's right but I' I don't know how to get it across without coming coming across as like a know-it-all and I don't know if that's my ego or thing. >> Follow the three steps. >> Accept. >> Don't say anything anyone because what you're learning is beyond this world's knowledge. So when you try it will happen. You'll be tested. You'll be like, "Oh, they're wrong. I'm right. But

24:06 I know I'm right." But then who is this eye? This ego is taking this valuable knowledge and saying that hey I it's me I I own this Rolls-Royce. I own God. I know I'm right. Please don't do that. That's what the gurus do. The mortal gurus that are walking around with turbans and costumes. That's what they're doing. The the punishment for that is a 100,000 years of hell. It's written in the Quran. It's written in the uh scriptures. When you are in conflict with someone or when someone is in conflict with you, whatever they say, they say, "Ah, oh, is

24:52 it so?" Okay, good to know that I'm learning to do that. I'm I'm practicing and it's working really well for me cuz I used to be that guy too, Jake. Ah, no, that's not true. That's not what it is. I only open my mouth to to the people that I find worthy of sharing the knowledge of the truth. And how how do I know they are worthy is I see different respect. I see some sort of form of discipline or devotion in them. I see there's an inquiry. They want to know and they just don't know where to know from. And this takes time to observe. But to get to this place, one needs to observe the self. So here it's all about you. So

25:40 you want to prove a point that you're right. Get out of this right and wrong because that's ravesa man. That's like and dislike. So you see how you're tangled in ego itself. >> Yeah. >> And then how can you tell someone else that they are right and they're wrong? Because then you're getting trapped in their in their maya in their illusion which means you're walking you're moving away from this valuable knowledge that's been given to you cuz this will not come to that this will stay in the highest place you we have to graduate to that when you get to that we shouldn't drop down to the level of how people so we can't go back to nar you are transcending you're we are all making effort to go towards becoming a human

26:25 human being and the animal being is here. We are living in an a society of animal beings. Competition judgment comparison greed, lust, anger, frustration. So when you drop yourself down to that world, then you'll be attracted by that. You'll be you'll get pulled by that world. So how do you maintain to be here is to be an observer. Don't react. Just watch it like as if you're watching Friends. Just laugh, enjoy the show, but don't become a victim or an don't get attached to that, okay? Don't try to prove anything to them. Let them be because it'll create more conflict for you cuz they will see you as the one

27:13 who has ego. They will see you as the one who um they will not understand what you have, what you know. You got it. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> This is for all. Thanks for bringing that question up, Jay. This is for all. At some point, someone will challenge you with something that you know is not true and you will want to say that, hey, that's not true. This is how it is. Don't say anything. Just be patient and be quiet. Be the observer. If only you see a possibility to engage to share the pathway to them learning these lessons then you can share. Don't try to teach this. Please do not teach this to anyone. Please do not share them

28:00 to anyone because they are not ready to understand the way that you have come into receiving this profound lessons. Show them the way how to come. They have to come from respect, devotion and discipline. They have to train the physical body. They have to train the mind from karmakanda because you have come through all of those lessons. You didn't receive it straight forward. You put your thing to you put yourself to test. You proved you overcame many obstacles. You overcame your mind's obstacles. You healed your body from its health. And there the shining armor was given and you placed in your hand to say this is the the this is the deepest lessons

28:46 here you are welcome come learn the next question Gri I'll take your question in a minute the next question that will come is how long does this program go for it's only natural someone asked how long is this class going for before coming in it's only natural We are still human animals. Everything is time bound here because everything is value. Everything is money. We value everything in some form from this world. So then time is also value. Right? Okay. I'll answer this in two parts. The first part I'll answer the way the human

29:33 animal understands. There are eight lessons. The way we structured it and framed it organically based on the modern humans understanding of Thank you. Sta based on the modern humans understanding of how they can receive cognize and then represent it back into their life into their day-to-day life. We thought about a month per lesson would be the right way to go. That's about the right amount of time for one to recognize and cognize these lessons and put it into thought and action into their reality. Right? I failed. We failed as healing warrior

30:21 tribe team. We failed because a month was not enough because the conditioning is so deep that it was taking a lot longer. So some of some of us I said six months we should be able to get through because some of the lessons we can we can bounce like double graduate thinking that you know like the hunger is so much only to realize the hunger of the ego was so much to graduate like how we go through school you know like when we are in grade 8 we want to be in grade 10 when we're in grade 10 we want to be in grade 12 and when we're in grade 12 we really want to be in university And so we started seeing this knowledge also in the same way. So it was the ego that wanted to graduate not the soul that was

31:07 allowing the the ego was not allowing the soul to absorb into the lessons to recognize and remember the lessons. So it's a journey of remembering not from this world. Don't try to remember your past lives and all that. That's got nothing to do with this. Okay? Nothing. This this this knowledge is not going to give you anything in this world. Zilch, no health, no wealth, no fam, nothing zil. But it will tell you who you are. And when you know that truth, everything becomes everything changes. Then you are not a victim of all the lower consciousness in the world that we go through. hate and anger and rage and sorrow and guilt and shame and all of

31:55 those things. You become free. You're liberated from all that. That is who a mtivan is. A mtivan is someone who is liberated from the ties the sadness of the world and is not depending on another object or a thing to get happiness. They are they become happiness. They are happiness. They are joy. It's beyond happiness. See happiness has duality. When someone is happy, they has there is an opportunity to fall into sadness. So we are shuffling between sadness and happiness, right? Someone who is sad wants to fall in love so they can become happy so they have a girlfriend or a boyfriend to become happy. Someone who's like poor wants to buy a car so they feel that they but that happiness is such short-lived. The moment you buy a

32:40 car, you're worried about who's going to scratch your car. See how this happiness and sadness is in duality. What we are achieving, what we the path we are going towards is oneness. Bliss does not have a another word. Bliss does not have another word. Joy does not have another word. It's not in duality. Have you thought about this? These are all my recent discoveries. I sit there and think and asan shows like hey did you notice that people are chasing happiness and what you're chasing is not inhappiness.

33:28 So joy does not have duality. It doesn't have an opposite word. Happiness has sadness. Thank you. So eight lessons. Okay. The first four lessons are easy. All of you are already prepared. You guys are fantastic. You've gone through mental clarity lessons. Some of you have gone through several rounds of it. So, you will sail through the first four lessons. The second four lessons will spin you around because they are not of this world. No one that I have come across so far. I've read a lot of scriptures trying to find and search this knowledge for many

34:13 years been through pe through schools different schools of Vedanta searching in depth and no one is talking about these four lessons. The upishads are not talking about it. The Bible is not talking about it. The Quran is not talking about it. The Torah is not talking about it. The Mesopotamian text is not talking about it. The pyramid scriptures are not talking about it. The Buddhist texts are not talking about it. The Jane texts are not talking about it. Stoism is not talking about it. Zorastrians are not talking about it. So no one is talking about these four lessons. So when you graduate past four and you

34:59 come into these lessons, it'll spin your mind across because if you try to fit this knowledge into the knowledge that we know how this world operates, it'll throw you out. So these four first four lessons will prepare you for this next four lessons. And this is not a graduate program where like, hey, I've come to fifth lesson, I'm I'm fantastic. No, it'll throw you out if you show up like that. Cuz there is no graduation. It's a process of evolution. For me, it took me up to 5 years to hold a pencil in my fingers and write. So when they sent me to school when I was young, about 3 years old,

35:47 I could not hold a pencil. So they wouldn't some a lot of the schools did not give me admission because I couldn't hold the pencil. When I was able to hold the pencil, they asked me to write apple. And I looked at them and I said, "I know how to write apple, but I don't need to write it for you." And I broke the pencil, threw it, and walked away. Of course, I lost admission cuz they thought I was arrogant as a prick as a child. But my they couldn't see the child's point of view. Do I have to prove to them that I can write apple with a pencil for them to give me admission? Isn't it a place for education? Shouldn't they be just taking every student to give them the education? Are you seeing where what sort of world

36:32 we've been studying and learning from? And the separation of people who are dyslexic and have special needs, who are hyperactive and who are bipolar and all that, they will all be separated into a separate school, separate classroom, and they will be named as special needs children who will be given anti-depressants separation. Again, veum does not do all of that. Veam never quits on anyone. So, Veum is always there for everyone. There is veam will never leave you. The only way that one can leave veum once you get a once you touch veum is you need to you will leave veum. Okay, understand that we will never leave you.

37:23 The only way you leave veum is when you quit veum yourself. Vedom will not quit on you. It'll be hard on you. It'll be harsh on you where it needs to be because the ego is the one that is feeling hardness. The ego is the one that's feeling harshness. The ego is the one that feels that this is not fair. The ego is the one that will feel that there's better ways to teach this. The ego is the one that will go and try to make corrections of the verses in the scriptures that is ancient. It's like ah they must have made a mistake. Let me do a spell correction or a sentence correction here. We do that right laugh about this because that's how

38:09 that's that's the nature that we have been brought up in in this society. Why I took took that pencil example is that's how we are taught. We thought as as young as five 3 five years old I was taught the reason I couldn't hold a pencil is my muscles and my fingers hadn't developed because I hadn't had enough mother's milk. I had birth trauma. So it it was not cogniz cognized well to function to hold have strength in the pencil to hold and each of us hold that pencil at different times in our life. Some will hold at three or two some will hold at six or seven. It doesn't matter when you hold the holding the pencil will happen when it's meant to happen. Same way ve will happen for each of us when it's meant to happen. Doesn't matter how many

38:56 lessons a day, how long it takes, you will we'll keep learning. Okay? So don't feel that there is this hierarchy of they are here, I'm here. Don't do that thing. We are all in the same place. We all learning together. Now the second question, how long will this take? Ideally the eight lessons are theory and then comes the practical lessons. We're not going to talk about practical lessons because that's completely another dimension of so these four lessons that we are celestial lessons all of them are celestial lessons but these four lessons will spin your world upside down. So when we cross these four lessons they comes practical. So these

39:42 four this eight lessons can take up to a year. However, how long is a piece of string? It'll take as long as it takes for us to hold that pencil and start writing. We do not let anyone behind. We do not let anyone behind. We take all of us. We are one. So, don't let yourself behind is the cue that I'm giving you here. Are you guys understanding this? Thank you. Don't let yourself behind. Stick together. If there's an invite, show up together. Now, you'll get an opportunity to watch what happened in that class and they'll

40:28 get an opportunity to watch what happened in this class because the information and the knowledge share is completely different to each of the classes. It's because whatever is Assan is downloading is what I can share. I'm not talking out of my intellect. There's nothing here. This is just a a a blow up balloon a doll listening to all the recitations. Fourth point just saying your vasagam is not enough. Listen because all of us most of us here don't speak Tamil Pyma who speaks not just speak she can read write and

41:13 speak but even then she for her it's a struggle to understand the vasagam because it is not of the Tamil that that that we can read and write it is celestial the Tamil that people who speak read and write is not Tamil it's not the Tamil the vasagamas is not saying veam is saying that is not the tamil Tam is saying the Tamil that I have spoken to you is the Tamil. So then this becomes a language of this world not of that word not of it's not the celestial language that we are speaking and writing. Tamil people some of us have that ego saying I speak this language because it's the ancient language da da da big no cuz the vam is not saying that's

42:00 the language. So which makes all of us in the same platform. We all in the same platform whether we know the language don't know the language. We're all on the same platform because we are learning something that we cannot understand and cognize. If you want me to attest to this, we can ask Miss Pirim Balumari to speak about this and she'll explain that she can read theum but she cannot understand theum as it's meant to be understood. That's the truth. Rajan this adi and the servant cannot read the vasagam does not know a clue what it's saying but has been graced with the meaning the true meaning of what it is saying what the divine call language is saying not the surface level

42:46 meaning that you're taking off the dictionary but the true meaning the interpretation of how the word is coded and can be split into multiple meanings multiple dimensions of meanings so someone who who's not reading T does not know how to read Tamil does not know how to write Tamil is giving that passing that knowledge to someone who is a professor in a university teaching Tamil. You see the are you able to see the variance like someone who cannot read and write the language is teaching someone or sharing the knowledge to someone who is a professor of that language in a university. So that is proof that it it's not talking about the language of this world. It's talking about the

43:32 celestial language which comes from the divine text. Which means we are all children of God. We are all in the same place. There is no hierarchy whether we speak the language or don't speak the language. Whether we can read the language or don't learn the don't know how to read learn the language. Like the explanation Jay just gave for the verse in Tamil that's profound explanation. Someone who can read Tamil will struggle to give that explanation. I know because I've seen a lot of student all the people I studied learned with were all Tamil speaking reading and writing people they none of them are continuing the lessons because they all got dropped off because they couldn't see the pur the meaning the truth in it the ego of Tamil

44:18 took them away from the teachings. So this has to become clear. So this comparison of language, let that go. It's the ego that's comparing a language. All languages belong to God. So whether we learn it in English or Spanish or French or Arabic, it's all God's languages. If you want another example, Bible was written in Hebrew first. But are we studying Bible in Hebrew? The Quran was written in Arabic first. Are we learning Quran in Arabic?

45:06 Can we learn Quran in Arabic? If there's anyone who knows Arabic, it's a different story. The reason why we learn in Tamil is because the knowledge that is come transcended to the human the human to become came in one of the most ancient forms of languages. This will be shared to you in lesson four but I'm bringing it earlier on because some of us might have this thing where I'm such a struggle to understand this language. I don't know why I'm doing this because the mind will do all these tricks. So I'm bringing it earlier on so

45:52 that you because I went through it as well. The reason why I left I left this in between to go and learn from other people in English only to know that they don't know what they're teaching. They hadn't seen the they were not out of these eight lessons they were talking about the only the three lessons they didn't know any more than that. One cannot become liberated or all of that with just these three lessons. Might get a taste of it, but that's all it'll end up in. As you progressing further and further, I'll share more stories of my journey and give you more context so you can get real real life examples so you didn't have to go through all of that. Okay,

46:38 these it came in the form of sound and the sound was in this language. So the most ancient texts of this is several and it goes on and then much much much later thousands of years later came the pyramid scriptures the Mesopotamian text and then many thousands of years after that came the Torah the Jewish text and a lot longer after that came the Bible and then 600 years after that came

47:23 the Quran and then the Buddhist text then the Jane's text theads came before all of that between the timeline is not important because when we speak about the timeline then there is time itself changes the way we understand time. Lesson five, we'll cover that about time. We'll get a deeper understanding about time in lesson five. So, all of these texts came at different times, but as it came, all of these different texts came, they're all speaking the language of God, but a lot of the stuff is missing. Out of those eight lessons, some of them are missing. It didn't get transcribed

48:10 and passed on because it was so complex for the people who came later on in that time. That was not important for them to write. So they took what was important in that time to pass on to the people cuz what they were after was peace. No war, how to overcome famine, how to overcome division, how to overcome war, how to overcome poverty. So they focused on those problems at that time. So every time a religious true religious text came up, it was focusing on that time. So the they only took the parts that helped them at that time. They didn't go into the depths. What we are studying is the whole thing. The primordial knowledge, not the ones

48:57 that came in between. But the ones that came in between is all proof that the primordial knowledge has transcended through all these other texts as well. If this is too much information just bear with me because I'm giving you this information which I don't give normally this earlier on is to give the food the nutrition for the mind to not slip off because the mind will slip off this you can always come back and listen to this video just quietly close your eyes and listen to this audio and you'll get this like yes he said that and you will see proof Assad will show you proof throughout he does not operate without proof and evidence.

49:43 Chara cool. So listening becomes important because when you listen is listening. So if you're just reciting where's the shraanam going on? There's no shanam happening. So listen to the vasagum. Please listen to the vasagum. to everyone's vasagum. You know how graceful I'm truly grateful to all of you because I listen to all of your vasagams every day. It's the first thing I do in the morning. I wake up even my eyes are not fully open. I just play the first and I listen to all your voices in the morning. All the sorryries, I've got this wrong. I'm not sure if I've got the meaning right. And then the mispronounced words and the missed words. the vastum that is

50:30 broken to the vasagum that's flowing I listen to all of it make that a habit for you as well if can a servant of yours can do it I'm sure you can do it for yourself as well and then finally listen to your own vasagam listen to your own words how you're sounding have you missed a word have you mispronounced something because when you listen you will get the pronunciation will show you which ones are the right and which ones are And then if you mispronounced it, re-recite your vasagum with the right pronunciation. If you missed a word, put that word back in. All of this does not take more than 10 minutes. Can you believe it? That's all the time I spend because each of your recordings are all like 1 minute 50

51:17 seconds. It's around that time. Maybe it's a bit more than 10 minutes, but for me it feels like it's only 10 minutes of my time because at 4:00 in the morning, it's the perfect time to listen to all of this. All of your voices so beautiful, so graceful. Listen to all the recitations. Aden didn't have this luxury to listen to other voices because we were all thought separately individually. So there was no listening to other people's vasagums. I'll tell you how I learned. The teacher will say the vasagam once. I will inscribe that in English quickly as quickly as I can because he's saying it

52:03 in Tamil. I'm listening to the sound and I writecribe it in English because I don't know how to read Tamil. That's how all the vasagams has come to you through me scribing in English. I'll come back and I'll make I would have made mistakes because I've done it so quickly. Then I'll I'll ask my mom mother to recite the vasagum and then I I'll write again because I'm a bit dyslexic. So my spellings are a bit off completely. So I'll give it to her get it corrected. Then I'll recorrect that because the dyslexia I cannot read the spelling that she has written. So I'll recorrect it. Someone brought up uh transliteration before this. Before all of this, someone brought transliteration. That helped a lot. But then again, I could not read

52:49 transliteration. And only to realize a lot of us can't read transliteration. So then we had to go back and break it down to the sound. It does not work 100%. But it works up to about 80 to 90%. Because it gets us closer to the word. You know what gets us to 100%. You know how Jay is able to say the vasum clearly how Chetna is able to pronounce some of the words very beautifully and how Christian and Minga are able to actually pronounce these words effortlessly how Ranjani and Udit and all all of you here don't can't read Tamil except for Pyama Balakumari so we are all able to recite it because we have heard the sound and we are

53:35 associating getting closest to the word that we have re seen in English and that's how we have got the vasagum how cool is that have you thought about learning engineering like this or any other knowledge like this it wouldn't have happened without the grace of god so this listening part is a very crucial part It it is what got this servant across. Everything that I have that has helped me to get across is all I'm sharing with you because it'll get you across more effortlessly efficiently smoothly without struggle cuz it's been tested

54:21 and proven over and over many many times over the years by me only at the moment. But then now you're you're the one who's receiving that. So then the previous batch has done a lot of corrections. Peras put a lot of effort in. Gatri's put a heap of effort in. Prema has put a lot of effort in to to correct it. So it's achievable. Ninga's put a lot of effort in. So a lot of work happens in the background to get this on. So listen to the vasagum is the message here.

55:09 Okay, that brings us to um small correction in the V who was reading when it says kulandi it will say k u z. So wherever you see zed z pronounce it as double l or triple l. Okay. It's kende the the tongue rolls back all the way to the back and say that's they they couldn't find a better letter in English because there's no letter to say that. So it's palam. So even if you say L, it's okay.

55:56 So instead of zed, just say L. For the ones who want to practice the zed as a triple L. Uh we've tried to communicate this many times, but no one really gets it. Even now, I've heard a few kande kande. Uh so it's a triple L. Okay? Or at least put it as a double L. Kande. And that will give you the right sound. That will give you the right vibration. Because this knowledge transcended as sound as um sum it's called sum it came not noise as sound is not the first sound fyi

56:42 there more sounds that came around but was one of the first sounds that got recorded along with that many other sounds came before M. We will learn the sound that came the primordial sound that came first which is not M. We will learn about that but we do not share about this outside like everyone else. Yeah. Is the first sound that came that's all we share. So that sound that came the sound was heard by the rishies and that's how they inscribed this knowledge. Hence it is important for us to pronounce the sound as closest as best

57:29 as possible we can the so the listening becomes important. The same way those rishies, those sages, the the wise ones who heard the sound and inscribed it in palm leaves, in rocks, wherever they could inscribe it to leave that knowledge for the people after for us. Same way we need to listen to that sound and write it down in your journal notebook. Write the vasagum in your notebook. Because when you hear and write, there's something that happens cognitionally in the brain where it is remembering the sound to letters. So when you read it, you can connect to the sound and what

58:14 you're reading to it. It's an exercise. Okay, this is a self-arning program. But what to do? We need extra support. So I'm giving all the support that it worked for me. Now will it work for you? I don't know. But I'm trying to think how what would have worked for them. So they would have heard it and they inscribed that if it worked for them then we are all descendants of that. So then we it'll work definitely work for that because that's the most primordial way to learn it's ingrained in our DNA naturally. Okay, that brings me to my end of my what I had to deliver. Uh 25 minutes. Uh Kunal, your question and then we'll start off with uh getting a consense of

59:01 what people have understood. Okay. >> Yeah. Uh I was just getting an idea of uh doing uh collective writing sessions maybe uh that will help us uh as a tribe activity. Um just an idea that came up. Uh if uh you think it's a good idea to go ahead then we can coordinate and meet maybe once a week or something. >> Yeah certainly. So all of these coordinations of uh study groups there are a few ideas that's been thrown before. Brema came up with ideas come up with ideas. Gatri's come up with ideas. Uh people bring out ideas. It shouldn't become a gossip session. Number one, because the mind is still

59:47 fragile. Number two, it shouldn't become a judgy comparison of like I wish we could have learned it this way or that way cuz this will take us further further away. So not so that one mind can put plant a seed as a collective and then it'll take the collective mind in the wrong direction. So it's a very sensitive thing to do. However, I do encourage to have study groups where you can come together. There's lots of resources that we put together. Prema has done a copious amount of work to really capture the essence of the teachings uh in a visual format. The audio is here and and the sequence, the flow, the structure is there. So, we can actually

1:00:34 cognize into that. All it requires is someone to come say, "Hey, let's do this this weekend. We're having a study group. Uh, let's write." And then you listen and you write and then recite it to each other and see how does this work. So create like make it creative. Make it make it fun. Learning should be fun. Vom is actually a lot of fun. But at times when Vam has to slap, Vam will slap. It will stop slap and then it'll ask you to have fun after. So there's a lot of joy in it because if we are learning the knowledge of joy then like how to say then we have to sacrifice some of the stuff that we think as joy here right

1:01:22 so the ego has to be broken time to time and that's this is another thing I want to give you a hint the ego will get broken time to time it's not done because to to prove a point because something is barricading you from growing into the new into the lessons. So I have cried several times several days in fact last week I was talking about suicide. I have tried I've thought about these they came out of my experiences of this mortal life. Now when I look back at those moments it was all the ego that was doing it and it

1:02:07 was getting broken and it could not face that. Today I feel comfortable talking about it because I know where I was and I know where I am now and I can see that you would also go you're walking that very path and you will go through all these hurdles. Just remember there is support. You're not alone. There will be times that you'll feel alone. You're meant to feel that to separate to dismantle that to break open that ego so the new you can come out. Mandaru, you're in the stage of the Daguru, the divine celestial teacher,

1:02:57 the radiance of you as a child. So, you're taking a new birth. You're reborn in that stage in that forum of the divine teacher. What is reborn here is you're dying. Your ego is dying and you're reborn into as a divine being. You're reborn in as a human being from that animal human animal. You're that nar from naram you're opening into man into human. So that process from nar from hell to human

1:03:42 is a hard process. Become aware I'm with deep respect and devotion. I'm sharing this. I'm not supposed to share this because then now you'll be prepared to protect it even more. So I'm sharing it because when it happens please allow it. Surrender to it. Otherwise it will become difficult to journey forward. Let it just break. It is useless. It does not serve anything. It's stopping you from you growing to your highest potential, self-doubt self-sabotage self inflicting things. All of this is coming from ego. Yeah. Cool. Thanks Kunal.

1:04:29 You can organize all of that uh with Ash and uh yeah, it'll be good. You can take a vote as well in the contemplation group if everyone wants to do this, has the time to do this, if they really, you know, it should be a a collective participation, not like four people doing it and then the rest are left behind. Try to always remember each of us no matter how forward we studying and going with it. Don't leave the other person behind. Take everyone with you. Someone's struggling with something gather them and always talk with way them. Do not go into gossips. The mind will love gossip over veum in the beginning but as you slowly slowly move towards veum the vedum will to show you the way the verses will show you the way

1:05:15 gossip will not show you the way it'll take you further away into the nar into the hell which is where we are trying to come out of the gossips and the judgment I mean gossip is nothing but judgment and comparison and he said she said who said what Chinese whispers Yep. Okay. So, what's going to happen in the next uh what's going to happen now is cameras on recitalum uh and share what you have understood from the beginning till now as in what you've learned from the beginning till now. Okay.

1:06:05 Don't forget when you start the why we say I'll give an example. I I have to explain this because I've also done this in the past when I was earlier in the earlier uh days of learning cuz you spend so much time to memorize the vasagum and then what is in memory it laps out a means the primordial one the creator is with the support of the primordial one with the support of that primordial creator so without his support we can't remember anything. There is no we don't have memory, we don't have um

1:06:51 intelligence, we don't have wisdom, we have nothing here. So when we tap into that primordial source, we are tapping into the his memory because it's his words we are trying to recite. So then we are not relying on our memory here. We trying we are relying on his memory. So the issan's body the explanation of the veum it's is his language it's his divine language and then you start in that that first is a prayer that will support your vasum your recitation it'll give you the meaning some things that you have not understood it'll open up and see get you to see it in a certain way

1:07:37 cool That's why we say that and in the end we finish it saying is this is how the lord this is the lord's form this is how he's showing up in the form of verses in the form of veum then namaskar that's just showing humility at any point it shouldn't think it should we shouldn't think that hey my memory is so good it's coming out of my memory and it's like hey I'm better than before I'm better than and the rest type of thing. Always leave it for that divine. All glory belongs to grace. I'm sure a lot of you have read me writing this to you. Every time you've thanked me for whatever things that that's happened to

1:08:25 you through this this servant and I've always written all glory belongs to grace. It naturally came that ways because that's where it's coming from. I'm just the guy the mediator. So I know nothing. It's coming from veum. So it's the veum is the teacher. Vedom is where it's coming from and that's coming from grace. Okay cool. So we're not going to talk for more than 3 to 5 minutes. Keep it crisp. A short vasagum and then start talking about what you have understood. uh if anyone is called to share the meaning of a vasagum and through that you want to share what you have understood that's also fine. So there are many approaches to talking about what you have

1:09:12 understood. So about 3 to 5 minutes of talking. Um and we can start with we'll start with Jay because it's pretty late for him. So we'll give him a rest bite so he can rest and listen. >> Thank you Jay. Appreciate that claim. >> Okay. Uh so I'll do uh 2.2. So sorry my phone's charging so I have to keep it here. All right. Uh

1:10:00 LAN vacuum peru kana madangu adana Unadam. Uh, I think that's it.

1:10:47 almost got him and um I'm reading the English translation of it and it's basically saying receive the divine words through your ears, reflect upon it and speak it to others. So what I think this means is through your own contemplation about these verses when you speak to others I feel like it shows that you're thinking that deeply about other things and that triggers when people see you talk that triggers them to start thinking more deeply about themselves which is how like the knowledge spreads

1:11:32 from one person to another that's basically what I got from that verse it's uh so at this stage for that verse share it in the forum share it in the community you can talk about veum in the community but do not talk about veum outside of here >> no I I meant in the sense >> when you're talking about something very deeply like they see how much you've thought about it. So they start looking >> at things that deeply if that makes sense. >> Excellent. Uh and what have you learned from the up till now? From the beginning

1:12:19 what have you learned up till now also uh whatever Jay is covering we'll try to talk about things that he has not spoken about. Okay? Because it's only a few minutes each of us are getting so we'll tap into things that he has not spoken about. Oh, what do you mean from the beginning like >> from the introduction to Vam and then lesson one the lessons itself? >> I think uh the main thing I've learned is the four parts of the mind and being more aware of that. I think I've I still have a problem with it but I'm catching it faster and faster. So I think eventually it'll I hope it'll start going away. Yeah.

1:13:05 You want to talk about what are the four parts of the mind? >> Yeah. So um the ego, the intellect, the memory and the consciousness. And the ego uses intellect and memory to create false stories which keep you trapped in your head. And the consciousness is it's you said it was 0.01% 01% of the mind or or or space like in the mind. But that's what we're trying to access because that's where the most p uh it's the most powerful part of the mind. And uh yeah, you can use intellect and memory for normal things, but the ego is what spins those to create those false

1:13:52 stories. So when we finish uh I think Brema has left a message. So the way we finish every time we finish explaining something that we have understood is through the uh I I'll say it you can repeat it after me and I'll give the meaning for that. Okay. >> Okay. aden

1:14:47 andre Sorry, a little slower. Nandrin namaskarum. >> What this means is um I know it's funny when you first hear it. I it took me many months to memorize it. So I wrote it on the first page of my note my

1:15:33 journal. So I always read it. Uh I think PMA's got it on the chat box there. So you're welcome to read it from there. What it means is henceforth this servant of the divine grace has understood the true meaning of the verse and what I have learned. My quest, my quest and search for this liberation. My quest and search for the liberation of this life should continue over and over

1:16:20 to progress to the divine. And I conclude with that namaskarum that's what it says. Okay. So the why we say that is that we shouldn't think that all of this is coming from our memory and we understand things better. It is purely because of grace. Understanding comes from grace. We have no understanding. If we leave us to our understanding, we'll be in we'll be in hell. So we are moving to the understanding of grace. So we conclude by saying this so that we our ego doesn't tap to think that it is us who's saying it. We surrender saying that this humble servant of grace is surrendering to know that the understanding is coming from grace through me. That's it. Cool.

1:17:08 >> Uh who's going next? Rajani, you want to go next? >> Uh >> thank you. You can yourself man. >> Last words that you said is it N was saying it. Can you say that last two words that you said in the >> actually it's written on the chat box? >> I was not able to pronounce it that's why I'm requesting. >> Sure. I'll say it again. room.

1:17:55 Thank you. Okay. Shall I? Okay. I'm going to recite 2.1 poll. Yes. Um hello. Uh

1:18:47 for uh so um the uh should I uh like explain like uh what I understood right? Okay. Okay. uh what I understood from this is uh the uh okay I I wish to explain it based on the knowledge I got from other verses also so that it becomes more in uh means comprehensive example like earlier you told that it is like a transformation from an animal being to a divine being. So for a transition from an animal being

1:19:33 to a divine being the veum helps because in Vam God has told exactly which path to be taken like uh how like in the statement it is written that means exactly the path we should take is written in Vam instead of following that path we are you know um living an animal life like uh uh beings of hell. We are becoming beings of hell. So um by following the Vic uh verses and maybe the knowledge that we can contemplate from the Veda we are actually getting transformed from an animal being and we

1:20:19 are uh ascend I mean not ascending sorry we are becoming we are coming to the divine path. So Exactly. What I understood is that uh the ultimate aim of all the soul is to reach the divine or maybe uh and then the sentence is to see the god. The uh vam itself helps us to see the god uh not um uh not revolve around and uh remain in just an animal form of animal way of life. So uh that's what I understood. Uh

1:21:09 huh. What's the most profound thing that you've learned so far in um like what's what's the things that you remember or understand so far from the beginning from introduction to rhythm? >> Okay. The profound thing that I understood is every everything that we learn in textbooks, notebooks, school, everything are aparavidya which is of no use to life because they are time bound. They are based on exams merits for s for screening and selection process. They use these kinds of knowledge and uh we base our self-esteem based on the amount of uh performance that we exhibit in such a paravidya but that is

1:21:57 not what is meant uh in our life like uh we we should be focusing more more on paravidya which is not time bound which is based solely on our devotion discipline and uh commitment uh and respective. So we uh should deliberately come for like paravidya will come to us only when we deliberately comes come forward and step up to receive it. We show respect to it and this paravidya is the only knowledge that uh helps us attain the divine or maybe to get liberated from these uh karmic bondages. Not just karmic bondages, even the the job that we are in, the relationships we are in, the

1:22:44 situation of lives we are in, everything is related to the karmic baggage that we have. All those baggages can be unloaded one by one only if ego death happens. This ego death happens on contemplation of these Vic verses. When these Vic verses are implemented in our day-to-day life like how you told instead of arguing with people understanding that they live in their perception. It's not our duty to enlighten them. Every soul is in their own journey. We need to go we we need we need to focus in our journey and our moto in life should be to reach the divine at

1:23:29 least in this birth because we have taken any number of births in this universe just simply eating sleeping leading a push form of life without touching veam. So we have lived n number of lifetimes to reach this point and the vedum that we are learning now it is a prime form of knowledge which is untouchable means though they are c of souls only a handful of us maybe a handful of them a handful of souls are able to touch this because we have uh lived any number of lives in search of Vedam. Finally, we got that blessings

1:24:15 to be a part of Vic knowledge. So, we should understand that this is not a privilege. It is a it is a fruit of the hard work of any number of lifetimes. Maybe uh after any number of uh lifetimes we uh as leaving as a pashu now we are entering into the uh true knowledge true uh true knowledge of attaining liberation liberation from this unwanted karmic cycles karmic bonds unwanted jobs career means even the ambitions career everything is all performance related time bound such we as uh souls we are uh miss we are not supposed to live in a time bound manner because that is not

1:25:01 why how we are programmed to as a human being I think uh we are just uh put in an endless loop of competition and all. So veum helps us to come out or maybe pull ourselves out of this competition and be at peace and prepare our body and mind to harness the divine knowledge and get liberated from all these clutters in inside our inside us and outside us. All the clutters and bring order to this uh life. And uh each time we cling on to the grace we get more abundance and blessings in the form of peace of mind.

1:25:47 And uh ever since I started uh Vam practices or maybe Vicu uh Vic knowledge sorry Vam knowledge when I started implementing it in my life my life became so uh peaceful without chaos. I don't argue with people. I don't uh raise my voice. I don't shout at people. I don't quarrel. I don't uh >> I don't do anything. I am just silent. Uh people started asking me you have changed me a lot. You have changed a lot. You're not speaking to anyone. >> The fact is it's not that I'm not speaking. It's that I don't find a point in speaking. So uh that's what is the end result

1:26:33 maybe result as of now. Uh so I am really very pleased and I have a lot of energy to spare. I am conserving my energy for good purposes and for the things that matters to me. So Vam Wes have changed me into an

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