Pokemon: Gotta Watch Em All! | Pokemon I Choose You! | Pokemon Movie Podcast

0:00 [Music] hey guys what is up welcome back to pokemon gotta watch them all the podcasts we watch all the pokemon movies we talk about the things we love the things we hate and then we rank them today i have the usual cast dante can i chris and john once again we're here to talk about another movie last time we watched volcanion the mechanical marvel

0:46 decent flick you know crew was decisive on it today we are watching pokemon i choose you so i choose use the first like reboot film we get we start back over with ash and pal town whole nine yards um but as we get into it i'm gonna hold off on john and kanai because in previous conversation i know you guys have total opposites we'll get to that uh let's go with dante what did you think of i choose you this is a very odd movie to me because i i don't know how much of it for me plays off nostalgic um and so there's part of me that's in a vacuum it's just like trying to look at this movie as it is and then there's other parts of me that are just like throwing all these memories in here and there's there's parts of me that that like it was like oh that's okay but then there's also parts of me that are like i feel like you're shooting shoehorning

1:33 this in too fast but then that same regard is like but i know kind of what happened so i still have some emotions that go into it okay this is a this is a roller coaster this is a roller coaster i i will readily admit i like began tearing up at four different times in this movie and i'm like what is going on and it's like i don't even think it's like that great of a movie but at the same time it hit some notes i think i think it's a nice reboot to be like hey we made this story 20 years ago when 85 percent of the pokemon you've seen this movie didn't exist and now we're starting it over by showing a world where these pokemon they're not just locked on another island because you're in the kanto region like they do exist you do see them everywhere

2:18 but this is what happens when we know these pokemon have now been made in the real world we know they exist and i like that i like that um chris how about you what'd you think about i choose you uh the thing you just you just haven't mentioned is the thing i really enjoyed the probably the most about the film is seeing like all like the future pokemon in the current like gen 1 like like seeing uh incineroar seeing the car seeing all of them was was a really nice touch and just seeing like it was it was like a breath of fresh air for something that's nostalgic for me but it retcons and it plays a lot differently so that way like you still get that nice touch but and then they they have a couple of more than a few callbacks like i remember watching that episode i remember watching that

3:04 episode and it was it was just it was just really nice and very heartwarming yeah i cuz i think pokemon has always felt like a linear path that kind of funnels out we're like this is kanto this is johto this is hoenn and everything moves forward but nothing comes back so to be like oh yeah chikorita synagogue they existed but we don't have those here and then we have incineroar but we don't have those here right and i think doing this the way they did um yeah i think it just makes the world feel not more real it makes it feel as big as it should be yeah this pokemon isn't a myth because it's over there yeah right um can i what'd you think if i choose you i

3:51 loved this movie okay um so number one the whole like opened up regions thing love that uh the villain who and ultimately ends up showing up great villain and he's paul but yeah i love he's not paul but he is essentially paul supposed to say to paul um i i know some people are following me like i don't like that brock and misty weren't in it i absolutely they were the credits they were you know i i love the two that we got uh i immediately love their motivation rarity and soul rules yes earl i think um i do i like their motivations more than i like brock's and misty's is weird misty's like ash owes me a bike so i need to go with him and then it's like i'm just kind of here cause i'm here [ __ ] my gym yeah like that's misty for a while and brock is like i want to learn how to be

4:37 a pokemon breeder and it's like well traveling around the world cooking for children is not going to teach you how to make pokemon have sex so uh i mean that could be argued with with a certain plot point in this movie but uh the the the brock character who's like he's like i came from a rich family like he knows how he doesn't say he knows how to cook but he shows it yeah and then there's the whole like i i am researching legendary pokemon so it makes sense when this character's just like oh that's this so yada yada this legend that legend like i think they do a good job of explaining the characters and why they react the way they do in certain situations uh i like that it's i like that it doesn't hold your hand on things you already know and it shows you a new thing of like the whole bye bye

5:23 butterfree it shows you the whole fiero thing it shows you the whole charmander thing it shows you the key point like the key uh nostalgic moments from the first season in a fast manner so that you still get to meet these characters see those scenes in an updated format yeah i the [ __ ] fight animation was phenomenal above and beyond so much money i still have to recoil every time i watch tremula get its neck snapped on that brick wall yo when when he just grabs when he just grabs [ __ ] incineroar's leg and just [ __ ] wow like i got them noticed that [ __ ] throat chop animation like i just love the throw truck just grabs him in the air spins him around [ __ ] throws him and then just crushed

6:09 him intensity was beautiful the final flamethrower holy [ __ ] dude i literally was like let's go when they like collided and the charizard one just ate the incineroar one i was like yeah yeah it's a sick ass fight it's like the whole movie just had me on edge with the points that i loved as a kid but updated to stick with adult me yeah if i put on indigo plateau whatever the [ __ ] if i go put on the original i'm like this is background noise if this is ever on like as a series if they went back and redid this i am watching every single [ __ ] second i feel you

6:58 so we were just talking about one piece a second ago and yeah you watch the east blue thing that basically tells you everything this didn't have to be a movie i feel like this could have been like the first part of this could have been a special i know i think when you say the first part you mean up like what do you mean until intake pretty much okay okay uh animation i like it i like the story i don't like the actual movie part of it uh clearly the the way the sequence style the story so this came out in 2017 pokemon generations came out 2016. pokemon generations did phenomenal people loved it and they just grabbed the style of that put into here which was really neat my problem here is that

7:44 they're basically retelling you ash's story right but it didn't matter because past this these two [ __ ] characters didn't exist anymore so it's like telling a new story that didn't have to exist like if the what's the name of the characters they never make an appearance they ever get a mention or anything i feel like if going forward they did it then this movie will hold more it's kind of like the whole uh uh they're trying to have a show other than star wars but okay uh other like the sequels they already said they're not canon like the last three movies it's that's what this feels like it's like and i know the movies usually it's a pokemon story that doesn't exactly it's like they're also using the lore of the anime which is not coming to

8:31 the movies but for this one particular movie we have to forget that the show has never mattered uh but i do like some of the changes and quality of life like for example pokemon that exist outside of their respective region they already have done that already because when ash went back to uh after the first league and actually went back to kanto there's a bunch of joto pokemon in kanto sure because now they exist in the world yeah and they've done this multiple times i think those always felt though like they were migration where and again it's just a matter of the the factor of how regions are released but gen 2 doesn't exist therefore through indigo league we see don fan yeah and together um

9:16 but togo people are bombing kanto because that's him and another example that it's during uh like right now in journeys where there's blossoms there's lugia there's luxury there's a yamper all these pokemon execs in kanto um so they always done that in the anime just not as well as they did it yeah at least the thing was the movie it feels like in in those cases now that these pokemon exist they've populated the world that we already knew this is the world is starting with these pokemon existing around the world so the what makes me not like this was it's just the beginning because i don't like retellings and i know that they probably did this because there's a lot of younger people i mean uh a lot of people's intro to pokemon was gen five yeah so this is catching them up like

10:03 here's how ash got charmander here so i actually got a pikachu and that kind of stuff i don't like that kind of stuff and i know why they did it so like i'm not saying the movie sucks itself i personally didn't like that beginning it wasn't until halfway through that i was like oh this boat this movie is busting now it's a blessing yeah to the uh i think that uh in the old show it feels very much that once ash sees the pokemon then they exist in the world whereas this feels like the whole world has known about itself before ash everything and i like that so right now the way pokemon journeys works works just like this movie so like they go to holland and you see pokemon from like gen eight gen seven is that the current anime with ash

10:48 and go yes okay where now that these pokemon have quote been unlocked when you go to different regions you no longer see pokemon that region only uh they did that where i think it's holland that they went to and you don't see a single hole in pokemon for the first like five minutes you keep saying like gen four seven janae so what i would like from this is i would like a series of movies i think standing alone it does suffer from like if this is supposed to catch people up to the anime they will never see characters or ever hear about the situation once again i think if they continue and they branch off of it and they're like here's ash's journey through johto with this pokemon that took a liking to ash and i think if they make it and that's another thing i like they made it more about the they made it more than just about the badges yeah because at one point somebody's like

11:34 literally i think we saw erica we see him fight eric he's my fourth our third third third i guess he just skipped surge yeah he had three badges before that was his fourth yeah oh did he okay yeah because he's going in the in the exact presence it was probably japanese it's he said yeah i won my third badge in the english he says this is my third badge as well so so he says this is his third that that's that's because i brought that up to tony who was in the room as well he just said that this is his third bag and he holds it he says yeah i got my third badge i think they're i think in the old game there is a way to skip so i think you can't yeah i think once you get past you can't because you can get cut you cannot because i know you can

12:20 i know you can interchange uh koga and sabrina yeah you have to hit surge because he he gives you the ability to use cut and you need that to cut the tree so then after serving you can't skip misty after erica you can do them because you have to be misty to get out of cerulean i'm not sure what the cannon is there it sounds like you just want to [ __ ] with the old people be like would you [ __ ] skip you don't know ash it also might just be that in the show he doesn't have to abide by that sure but yeah to to just so that i have the exact note where it felt more about the journey and it's not just i want to be the best why i want to be the best it was a journey getting to there and that's what i liked the ho thing had a per like we had the ho since 96 97 when anime started

13:06 it's it's kind of dropped off since then so you know what to help this if every movie after this if it was luvian said i agree i would love this if they would have used the two characters that were supposed to be brock and misty and just make them canon to the movies they're they're [Applause] really and then like as i went on i'm like i like these guys and my favorite thing is they define themselves by their actions not by being like i want to do this like the guy's like what the [ __ ] did you do to that charmander why'd you leave it out in the rain and he's like yeah he's an advocate against pokemon abuse because he's freaked out yeah we'll get to that and then uh the other girl is very like competitive because her mom and that whole thing yeah act like actually um

13:53 but in that cave scene when they're like what do you want to do ash what's your motivation he's like i want to be a master and she's like what does that mean and she's like do you just want to be the best at battling he's like i don't think that's what i want that's not what a master is and like i was like i like that it's acknowledging something people have questioned since he started yeah because you don't call them masters you call them champions so actually i've never met a pokemon master yeah exactly sure we had uh not with the title of correct also did anybody catch the line you're just like your father yes yes i i heard you know they did they faded off right yeah did they do that in english yeah yeah so they do it in the middle ash is on the phone and that's when pikachu is like ivysaur yeah he's making things if you're if you're paying attention to that you almost miss every wound i'm like yeah so

14:39 my plan about his dad i read it and they fade off the end because i rewind it and i was like and then they faded off like uh and i was like yo that's like actually cool that they allude to him having a father bringing bringing pikachu up briefly like i should have saved him for this movie this movie is a great um way of kind of reintroducing pikachu because at this point since the first movie third like we have i don't feel like we've seen pikachu in a spotlight for a while like used there and sometimes kind of gets pushed into like a sacrificial role but like pikachu is super expressive in this movie so it's it's a it's a breath of fresh air i feel like he's always been in the anime but in the movies it feels like he gets pushed for whatever in the movies it's whoever the cover art

15:25 yeah because i feel like actually says pikachu for a lot of battles but you never see that in the movies because i mean i didn't bring it up in volcanion but he's like ash greninja you stay here pikachu go get gengar i'm like why okay one thing i will say is uh this movie introduced a lot of pokemons that have before and ever gotten attention yes which is what i liked about the movie because yeah so i have interesting thoughts on that but i want to do is i want to read the synopsis of the movie from the pokemon website themselves this is a long it's a long one it's a long one the rest usually a paragraph it's like three

16:11 meet ash ketchum a 10 year old boy full of imagination confidence and dreams that are almost too big for his village a pallet town plus the desire to become a pokemon master ash is finally old enough to receive his first pokemon from professor oak the town's pokemon expert but on oh it's the word hyphen this town's pokemon expert hyphen but on the morning ash is supposed to claim claim it he oversleeps by the time he arrives professor oak the three pokemon he wanted have already been chosen by the other trainers in training including his rival gary who does not like appear in this movie which is greatly oh he shows up to grab the grass grabs squirrel sorry and then that's it but that's pretty much it um the only pokemon remaining is a strong-willed pikachu trainer and pokemon don't my document scroll like 10 pages away

16:58 there we go uh trainer pokemon don't get along right away uh not only does pikachu refuse to enter its pokeball it would rather climb a tree than battle a pidgey that ash encounters dis disagreements aside they start to bond when they find themselves chased by an angry fight it's literally like the synopsis of the whole [ __ ] movie uh angry flock of spiro the spirit wound pikachu but asterisk his own safety to protect his pokemon to further their escape ash borrows a bite oh that is the description of the intro to the anime yeah because he does not get the bike yeah and the pikachu does not climb the tree he's on a rock and he's laughing at ash so this is mixing it that is mixing it interesting i'll continue the editor got confused yeah so this is the intro for

17:43 the anime but it was for the movie uh but it steals a bike from a girl misty which doesn't happen this movie he soon wrecks the bike however pikachu surrounds by the spiro attacks the sparrow confronted by the spiro pikachu is inspired to summon its remaining energy to repel the pokemon with a powerful electric strike finally out of harm's way the wild ex the wild experience makes ash and pikachu realize that they begun what promises to be a blooming friendship so that was the description on the website for this movie and i didn't read it ahead of time and i see that it uses the anime stuff so misty's not in this is replaced with very nice and brock is replaced with sorrel um that's strange yeah i wonder if like because the first episode of pokemon is also called i choose you right it might be i wonder if there was something that was mixed yeah they might have put the

18:29 wrong thing somewhere and it was like no one's gonna come here for the no one reads this just some 26 year old later on who's going to do a podcast about the show um i'm very positive i could be wrong but wasn't it a swarm of i feel like it happened with around the metapod thing oh uh yes the metapod thing was a bj and that's what i've always been to butter for you yeah because they always use bugs after he gets misty because misty hates bugs um yeah so this movie is just like it starts as a retelling of like how ash started watching a pokemon league fight which was really cool because it was cory and nisha from the first movie with shell shocker and brute root um fighting in a

19:16 stadium battle i really liked that it also wasn't uh it wasn't the gengar nidorino correct which is uh but i think one of them has one of those pokemon nisha has neato queen no no one of them the other guy is the water trainer has a nidoqueen i'm not sure who had i thought i saw a gengar in the intro there was a game so i think it was blasters versus gengar yeah gang gets withdrawn and brew root comes out and that's when they fight um yeah ash is like pokemon battle dreams breaks the clock shows up late gets pikachu uh for anyone who's seen like the first five episodes of the show like that's what the first half of this movie is um something i thought i think makes sense but it's interesting in terms of like rewriting ash and if

20:02 they would choose to continue this as a series of rebooted movies um they took out half of his team they did technically two-thirds of it when butterfree leaves um but he only gets caterpie and charmander no bulbasaur no pidgeotto no squirtle and then no crabby no anything else no squirrel squad yeah so this the whole movie is basically hinged on it might be because charmander brock and misty had a bigger role in the other [ __ ] other than pidgey uh but i think misty was the reason they stayed around for the squirtle because water types and i think for the squirtle uh the thing that happened uh pikachu needed a potion and the squirrel squad was like all right ashley you can go get the potion everyone else

20:48 in this you're staying here yeah and then uh brock wanting to go to like that valley of pokemon from bulbasaur and the vaults are being like get out like i don't want you here i think i think it all with that decision it ultimately came down to how many points do we want to put into this movie yeah and so while butterfree isn't necessarily what i would say to be one of ash's most popular pokemon what it does offer to the plot point of the movie is the fact that you sometimes you'll have to say goodbye yeah so i think that's kind of why they went with butterfree they just wanted to use the bye bye butter free lunch that should make me cry when when uh when she's just like but actually if you do that it's bye bye butterfree i was like um

21:33 yeah so i really enjoyed the movie and we were talking like john said we were talking about one piece like for like 20 minutes before we sat down to record this episode um but a week or so ago we uh chris and can i and i watched uh the episode of beast blue from the one piece movie which was like hey up to this point the anime we've cut it down to hear the important fights the important plot points boom now you're caught up on these 60-ish episodes so much easier to digest so what i liked it after seeing that and then re-watching this i would love to see more in the series where it's like yeah these this anime is umpteen years old um and maybe you don't know the story i mean we want to reboot a little bit and rewrite it here's a quick like that that that

22:19 here's the point i think once they get to the second half of like we're getting to the mountain we're going to fight oh do that whole thing um i think kind of takes away from the chance of just chronologically telling ash's story with the new characters um but i like the idea of being like all right cool now he meets pokemon and i would even like it if ash was just tied to kanto for this movie series and it was like he was going around his journey in the modified kanto with the additional decks yeah and then like the other regions were different trainers and then like they start their journey by seeing ash fighting in the champion and like that would be so cool to pass the torch between the different generations and shine on characters who previously saw no love but there's so

23:04 much potential in this idea for such a long-running series yeah and i like that more things are starting to do this where they update the animation the story and all that other stuff to accommodate and give that quality of life that's what i think well for i think if you're gonna do this you have to stick through it and they should like even now they can do another movie and just retcon all the in between and keep going with this pattern of like these characters matter now they're over here this world matters and i think that's my biggest gripe it's just that it's awesome it's a good movie yeah but it doesn't matter because i know that the next movie nothing here is affected by it yeah so that's just that's my biggest price same thing is said well i don't know if power of us leads into coco at this point in this reboot is where

23:51 ash is kind of alone there is no brock misty like permanence with anybody um to my knowledge they're not okay it could be wrong i haven't seen the power of us in so long but to my knowledge it's not i'm just thinking i'm trying to think of what ash looked like in power of us and what i've seen him in zor as a rude because you count evolution yeah and this has nothing to do with uh detective pikachu yeah that's which that doesn't count i think that's saying less about the movie more about pokemon company as a whole i think that's my problem yeah we've been seeing more variations in them like legends arceus and like they've been more open to like spin-off games they've remade pokemon snap i think it's just them being like we're losing our audience due to age and like repeat what do we do and i think they're trying to pull with nostalgia

24:37 and variation they're trying to pull people back in so like hearing you guys talk i think my problem's not the movie it's the execution it's after the follow-up of the company yeah yeah because like i did enjoy the movie i hate the premise that you can skip this movie and it's okay yeah i mean that this movie had a period on the end which put a wall between this doesn't continue this stops here yeah i get that i i literally so this morning i was like becca do you wanna i know you watched three with me and you're like three do you want to watch this one with me and she's like not really and i was like that's fine i don't go watch on my computer so i pull it up like 20 minutes in i pause it i'm like you picked the wrong movie to say no to it's really good and she goes i'm sorry i'm folding laundry so i like went back

25:23 to watching it like 40 minutes in i'm like it's really good are you i'll take it back and she's like no i'm good so i pause it and then i get like 20 minutes from the end she asked me a question i'm like i won't lie i i might question some of their opinions if they don't like this movie and then she's like yeah and i'm like sitting there explaining everything she's like that's pretty heavy for it i was like yeah it's a lot and then i just like finished it i was like that was so good i loved it dude i think part of it is also because like usually stuff like this are safe as specials and i think that's why because i'm so used to so many like naruto did it one piece done it dragon ball z has done it so i'm so used to this being a special and not movies because even the

26:08 east blue that was a special movie so i'm so used to seeing these specials that maybe seeing it as a movie in the beginning is what left me so like sour but like like i said i think it's the execution of after the movie that's the part that i like because um as i hear everybody talk i'm like oh yeah i did enjoy that too oh yeah i love that part right here oh yeah you hated that part i hated it too and now hearing it i'm like yeah i think it's the execution and not so much the movie itself yeah one thing nobody's talked about so far the [ __ ] music in this movie is absolutely insane i love like every part of it i'm like this music is only adding to the scenes yeah there's a couple the reason that i like the soundtrack for this movie is it emulates like certain like sound qualities from

26:54 the game yeah yeah so it even though i don't believe aside from the the the theme song and the i think everything everything else soundtrack wise sounds like it's something that has been used in a pokemon medium before that's recognizable so it really lends itself to the feel of the world of pokemon i'm getting started on the ending song this movie uh has one thing that i was laughing it's not negative but i understand anime logics but ash [ __ ] breaks them in this movie more than any other movie when he did the jump on the other yeah i don't think i've ever seen ash do something this extravagant before boy you just broke your knees shut up like

27:40 this um but yeah so as it starts it just kind of recounts ash meeting pikachu pikachu hates him i say get your pokeball i saved from the spiro psych i want to be with you and then we get like the title card after we get like our little recap of episode one and two uh then we see ash in the pokemon center meeting uh talking to his mom which which i haven't known that his mom was just like airing out everything oh now you want to call me okay did you get the baby first right correct that's supposed to be misty and they did the little thing with the mom

28:26 it was like reflect what's that it looked like cynthia yeah okay i saw that i was like so that was my assumption that this is i mean i don't know who cynthia's wifed up to like yeah the only thing is i don't think did cynthia have a napoleon she also has brown hair yeah that's true i assumed it was a weird dark yeah the weird thing is i looked at that flash that that it was a flashback i guess it was a phone image and i was like i feel like i know her and then yeah the longer i stare i was like i don't think i do it looks like she might have been modeled after santiago it's a strange phenomenon yeah very weird um yeah no dude his mom pulled out the power movement i'll give a [ __ ] oh you got me on speaker all right i'm about to put you

29:13 up even better you didn't call me for cynthia is probably like her aunt or something so her sister is we can't be mixing those names that's too much power um but yeah while ashe's on the phone this kid rushes in he's like my vaporeon might be pouring out smallest day pouring out everything i was like what in the world why is it so small i understand it but it was like it was like a small cast yeah homie painted his eevee blue like that's what that was

29:59 um but he comes rushing in and in my head i'm like that's because right after eric i'm like now he goes and fights surge that raichu just [ __ ] up that they poured out he's like nj point i'm like nope nope that's not what happened through your world didn't it yeah uh i was really so what i thought is this is going to be where ash fights paul guy cross uh cross yeah he looks like he belongs in a card game he looks like a bad guy and i think that's what they want he either looks like a beyblade character he looks like a yugioh character i put in the notes i liked him more than whatever the real charmander abandoned guy yeah it's me i hate my troll random generic background character with an australian accent yes way better um

30:46 but i was like this is where we meet the bad guy and then it was like entei and i was like what what's up yeah and i was all the unknown [ __ ] yeah i was like i'll i'll take that all day and the guy's like it's a vaporeon i thought it could be dente and i was like that's pretty smart and then in typical pokemon trainer fashion everybody's like let's go towards the danger that that kid just got mopped you all want to go catch it so i feel like that a lot of people don't know about entei by the way like keep in mind that like even when you're in jodo like very little people but i don't know where people are like oh i think that nurse joy is like entei like the legendary pokemon is like legendary pokemon it's probably still there [ __ ] and they're like i want it i think it's just what happens at the end of the movie should i wait to say

31:32 anything with the stuff or yeah there's joy she's like oh i don't know how it was in english but she's like that's nice yeah that's it so yeah ash comes in that's nice he's like wait because she's all scratched up he's like are you battling again oh who was it this time and she's like petting his tummy and whatever um and then ashley's like oh we're badly hosed she's like huh yeah [Music] yeah i don't personally like that i feel like nurse joy should have been animated a little better at the end there yeah like they decided to not go like cartoony with it like i think i would have imp impact anymore because it was

32:19 just like oh that's nice and you just kind of get uh i would like something bigger see i like that better though because it shows that like the legends and more is sticking and like people are like yeah this pokemon could exist but we don't know that it's actually fact because they're just in legend they could have existed they're done but that now but it shows like that moment where they're like what because they everybody some people still think narwhals are fake yeah maybe it's the delivery of the japanese it was ash bragging to her to nurse joy yeah like he like basically like oh yeah pikachu got hurt because he was battling oh she just says that's nice that's it and then uh then she goes like wait yeah it's similar it's same dialogue seems like it's delivered

33:05 different um but yeah after they all go after entei it's our three character well it's verdy and ash being like i want to say get the [ __ ] out of my way and entei is flexing the entire dude when he did that [ __ ] where he would like got behind ash and you got like that anime look in the audience [Applause] [Music]

33:59 he's like on a mountain and then like lightning strikes them and then they're like wasn't that raiku and they're like where in the anime his first appearance was suicune actually is canon in the anime and so it's entei and they have episodes [ __ ] riku gets like there's a thunderstorm and you see him charging his lightning and that's it yeah you never see him again in the pretty anime justice for raikkonen that's my favorite i feel like he never gets [ __ ] up i honestly i think in terms of like grand scale how most like the popular pokemon look i think raiku would should have that all wrapped up in like as the cool pokemon because this goes back to like like entei gets the hype because of the third movie suicune gets it because of the

34:45 cover art for crystal raiku gets left in the dust because he has nothing to tie his name to i don't know why they didn't do that they should have just done that could you imagine three with raiku instead of entei that should be a whole different movie dude could you remember that like the crystal that's the problem like with like the crystals and he's creating the thunderstorm to keep people away because no one's gonna go into like a torrential downpour lightning striking well his horse wherever he goes he brings thunderstorms we [ __ ] never see that we never see that [ __ ] pokemon chronicles we did with jimmy i mean lugia apparently creates like hurricanes every time he flaps its wings so he's he's the winner what do they call him the underwater current or whatever the [ __ ] wing louis de winston rules

35:32 there you go yeah modern the great thing i love about the entei fight is the fact that you can tell he's holding back the entire time yeah he's digging around he's like nah so there's one thing i love when playing until he [ __ ] up the car i love him i love him around with regular pokemon like i can destroy your whole world but it's like when the lucario squares up and ends pages look fireblade this is a girl pokemon power scale because pokemon loves lucario yeah they love using lucario you never see lucario gain his cheeks clap the way that he did one shot he he takes some l's in this movie yeah he takes some health because he's yeah so entei is just like all right

36:17 cool i'm not going to fight kids leaves um and then ashen and verdi are just like you [ __ ] this up let's battle that's because i i actually pulled a quote from it because then she looks over to the other guy she goes once i polish this kid off did you want to find them i paused the movie i was like what i rewound it to make sure i heard it correctly i did and i'm like do they not know what that means but then it was followed up by ash going like what do you mean polish me off oh my god no don't do it stop please wait my mom said i'm not allowed to talk to people like you the funny thing is i didn't catch that but now i i that was probably not a very good show i think i heard it and just like moved on

37:02 like it's anime they say [ __ ] i i caught i caught it but in my mind in the scene i was just like she just means she's gonna yeah by the way i thought of you i think we've already passed it but i thought of you because there was a battle with a matchup and i was like dang i'm not talking hard like he's like that's that's after charming yeah that's after chairman okay it's great it's a great animation of him throwing himself across the room the [ __ ] body they finally do them justice yeah um yeah they battle soros like hey wind's coming or something about the wind to be like storms coming he's like he's like i'm getting out of here you should think about it too or else you get caught in the storm yeah and then yeah he vanishes um so then they battled now i'm getting

37:49 the [ __ ] away from the store riku's coming for 13 seconds we gotta go um yeah so they battle piss off onyx that whole thing of calming it down with whirlpools kind of whatever um and then as the storm kicks in they run into charmander who's like chilling in the rain so uh i i thought this might get glanced over okay i think that there's a very important scene with onyx that i think a lot of people who watch this movie don't either care about or don't see it the way i saw it but knowing about the whole pikachu scene at the end there's a part where onyx is charging and like everybody else is running and ashes like alex stop we didn't mean to scare you blah blah blah blah and onyx is like yeah and he just like turns and i was like

38:36 are they getting at that ash can like communicate with pokemon or are they getting at that pokemon understand ash and when i when i thought about that i was like even if they don't touch it ever again that hint is enough for me to forgive whatever pikachu says as long as it's not romantic so here's my thing i don't give a [ __ ] that pikachu did that like i know people were obviously people people threw a fit about it that was so small yeah like if it happened throughout the whole film and yeah i don't know where it can [ __ ] talk yeah [ __ ] i don't like the pokeball like he did it once it's eight words i counted yeah and again it's a movie and usually the movies are not canon it doesn't matter plus we always want to be with you we also have a movie that's kind of focused on the pokemon that you know we never had a movie on [ __ ] pikachu the one that's in every goddamn movie so i think

39:21 the detective i think that it's fine the fact they did that is fine also ash was unconscious before this so there's a lot of ways to take this yeah yeah i mean i could have easily taken it as like ashes quite literally passing out and or dying the movie gets trippy there's a lot of just straight i think it primarily comes from car shadow once we meet yes but a lot of just like weird and [ __ ] what i what i see it as a child personification of doubt anxiety and fear yeah and all of that while i was seeing those scenes i was like this is such like and this is all the [ __ ] that hit me really hard because i'm sitting there like and uh we'll we'll get to it later but like when i'm seeing the like grayed out scenes like every time that happened i'm like [ __ ] man this is like this is so

40:08 good this is what the boring kids do that aren't pokemon training yeah when he's when like he's just like mom why didn't you wake me up and there's the [ __ ] car i was like huh so did you know who the teacher was i didn't catch agatha [Music] [Laughter] welcome to the world pokemon arena yeah so i looked it up today i was like oh i wonder why they always use those two and i looked it up and then pokemon masters

40:53 apparently has a scene of them like a flashback clip of them too i didn't know that because i don't play pokemon sex pokemon so master sex uh yeah i thought that was cool yeah i think i already thought i was dropping a bombshell i didn't know that until i think it was like 10 years after the fact but i was like that makes sense i i knew that gengar made sense but i didn't even think it was the ocean pokemon because the background's always a forest the only person with a gengar in that whole game like really if there's another one i don't remember yeah um so yeah they're running through the rain charmander and then this is where like we get the start of uh the animes charmander arc of like this trainer thought charmander was too weak left it in the rain to die which i'm so glad that it wasn't three episodes long i'm glad they didn't go to

41:40 the pokemon center come back then go back then come back janice marshado is the mythical because when you get in the distribution event you get the um z crystal ci that's right and these pokemon are hard to pinpoint like marshawn is a weird one that i feel like the only reason i remember it so much like i do is because i i found leonhardt who was doing card unboxings and he got so many of the machamp and marshado like duo cards like marshadow's not burned in my head and then uh i i have a shiny i don't have a shiny i have a randomly traded marsh shadow and uh sword and shield i love it which i think the marsh head on this movie shiny isn't he is it is it okay i always get confused if he's black and red or if

42:26 he's black and gray normally i think he's black he's black and gray well sorry the the the coloration that they showed in the movie is the the normal one uh when it gets like that green it's like that's is powered up okay so that's that's correct i think the shiny one would be purple okay i always forget yeah um did we never mind i'm gonna read this i'm sure i think i passed something all right i don't know let me jump around you know this but um yeah so this is what i like about this version of charming so i love it and i hate it because the thing is it makes charmander's story so much more important which you know rolling out almost bulbasaur sword or whatever to give charmander the screen time does charizard need screen time no but

43:12 he doesn't get a and i hate because growing up i always tell people squirtle's my favorite for realistically we all like [ __ ] children right so my problem was is that charizard became so saturated that i slowly started to dislike charmeleon which i think truman's the coolest one and then i started disliking charmander because of that because uh in gen 6 they just give them for free and realistically we're going to pick the don't want that game beat get a charmander yeah yeah so like when i watch movies like this or any content that you choose charmander i start rolling my eyes and then they always have those iconic scenes with him yeah this movie did a great job of charmander and charm alien and that's when i clocked out yeah

44:00 i was like let's leave it here oh okay yeah so i liked it because it wasn't as cut and dry like you were saying with the anime where it was like charmander pokemon center he left the middle of the night to go find his trainer i still don't [ __ ] want you in like back and forth um this one made it a lot more like chimchar than it did but charlie yeah that guy feels exactly like paul yeah i hate you you're weak i have lychen rock i've got incident on my back just use the rock it does not you know would you be the one that bites his arm that's it that's why that's why this is how we think is he is he's modeled weirdly enough modeled after like a rock doesn't use the pokemon yeah you do like the very end this is the weak one he's modeled after uh the dusk one like the one of the in between well he's modeled after one of the in-betweens because he's got that coloration that like orange

44:46 cross himself i mean yeah cause there's the stand-up one that's like orange isn't there isn't there two standard ones two no no you have four there's two quads right there's the quad one with the wolf hair yeah yeah yeah that one yeah yeah ash has the dog which is what i saw him at because his name was cross and it's the in-between of the like that's how i saw the bad characters i feel that yeah i like crosstalk i think i guess you're saying paul i actually think he's nothing like paul no you don't think no i think that i think in terms of paul paul's a lot more aggressive and but was only aggressive towards ash sure he treated everybody else including uh dawn and brock with respect it was just he treated ash like [ __ ] i think the connection to paul is not so much how he treats everybody else as much as

45:32 the pokemon if you're not strong you're useless yeah kind of like what you did with champions yeah or like the pidgeys that he caught where he or whatever he caught that he was just like ah you're worse and you just like release them yeah like you're not good you're not good this is a good tv training yeah yeah exactly yeah um so we meet cross and charmander was like oh my god i knew you would come back and he [ __ ] kicks trump yeah across the ground good way of making you hate a hate a character immediately without the scriptures he kicked that charmander i was ready to throw hands yeah i was like don't you [ __ ] do that and i was like why are you like this they have their power like you're weak i'm not da da da i'll beat you but i'm gonna have a storm they take charmander to the cave this is where sorrow's chilling and he's like what'd you do to the charmander yeah uh which i love this scene because they're all

46:19 like casually chatting and then entei just strolls up like a posse of pokemon and like they're all just like uh and he's just like [ __ ] try it do something do something and then he just like goes lays down and just stares at him the whole time he's like go ahead go ahead and then like they wake up like he's gone i was like yeah well they had like a little uh i think it was just before empty showed up this is the scene that i was thinking about about the pokemon not going in the pokeballs no the luxury thing oh yeah it's a little bit this is a little bit out okay yeah i think this is later we talked about i think this is i didn't want to bring it too early sure um but yeah they're like all right it's getting cold everybody getting your pokeballs and lucario and flip up go away and ash is like oh pikachu doesn't do that yeah and then

47:05 pip up in the car like neither do i and then it was it was similar i felt like it was a callback to i don't know what part of the anime i was in but ash got separated from brock and misty and was trapped in like a snow cave yes with the only fire was just charming his tail yeah um and then when he was starting to get weak at pidgeotto bulbasaur they all grouped up to keep him warm everybody but i forget if he got rid of butterfree at that point yet but i think i think he had like five pokemons butterfree's pretty early it's i can't remember when the snow thing happens but i think i think that's after prime apes are yeah so maybe i don't remember it either way five seven six just putting uh i was watching this movie and dj breaks off like you know if ashley never got rid of uh butterfree he would have been richie at the pokemon

47:51 league because charizard went to sleep yeah and that was actually his last pokemon but if you would have butterfree butterfree would have been bellsprout and that was where she sliced pokemon richie ended with uh pikachu yeah i thought he didn't know what bellsprout no uh that was ash's first match chelsea got folded with muck yeah yeah so that's right and he covered them okay because i think ash was pikachu right yeah yeah uh so it was pikachu there's no sparky and charming there sorry he falls asleep and then yes okay right i think pikachu fought charmander no yes pikachu fought pikachu one fought charmander lost simple zippo sorry zippo was like i'll kick your ass charizard said yeah you're right and

48:38 then yeah simple freedom and sparky oh man those problems have a name bill's probably just spells for yeah so i don't think richie had the belt bro did he i don't think so he hasn't cause uh mock the thing but that's not yeah and then she's like i'm losing i'm losing and then bell sprouts like [ __ ] your skull and that's just like how do i win and then suffocation yeah then muck yeah yeah okay i quite got confused yeah either way that's that's the old [ __ ] that's the whole [ __ ] yes they have that little thing in the cave they get up and leave um and i think around this part of where sorel's just like hey so here's how ho-ho works

49:23 three dogs they died he brought the tower back very beautifully gorgeous and he's showing this off he's like oh this thing like this is ho and actually i saw that and he grabs the the rainbow yeah he's like only special people get those you're the chosen one my favorite part was as soon as he pulled it out entei his gaze just shifts yeah and he's paying attention now and i like that yeah um and while this is all happening marshadow is in entei's shadow like watching the whole thing like this is where the he pops up for the first time like oh yeah when did you get here and then uh he ends up in ash's shadow while he's sleeping well he's taking care of charmander yeah you're a piece of [ __ ] i should have gotten a squirtle

50:09 that was that was that sucked that [ __ ] so how long was that scene was that scene two minutes long it was like four five from what when he's like i should have gotten he roasts the [ __ ] out of that charmander yeah well so he starts being like pikachu could have won that yeah and then eventually says like if i could have gotten squirtle instead and then he goes into like dark mode does he say pathetic i don't know he calls pikachu pathetic then he goes on to say he says something to the effect after after he says pikachu won the fight against incineroar what if charmeleon heard you i guess before we get to that they leave find a pincer is this the machop fight first uh i think so yeah they leave a caterpie evolves uh oh so charmander versus jigglypuff first

50:58 right charmander evolves uh snorlax and pikachu are fighting and then it's the machop fight somewhere in here he [ __ ] just grabs that thing by the foot and just [ __ ] spins it around and slams it into the ground and i was like god yeah damn and then this is where he's like all right who's next and like verity goes to step up and then cross comes in like [ __ ] you my turn and that's what he brings out incineroar he's like charmeleon's got this and he starts beating the snot out of him yeah and then he's like oh no he's just taking a bunch of damage to power himself which now you're dead blaze yeah and i was like yo they're acknowledging the abilities one one of that's actually one of my gripes here is a pin at this moment is the fact that this doesn't come up again the blaze yeah when they fight him next time it's like oh we'll just fight him again but like the more you fight him

51:44 the stronger he's gonna yeah i don't know i feel like they brought it up and then it doesn't get touched on again in the second battle like they don't necessarily find a way around it i know i kept screwing it up for myself because i was like of course he lost he's fire fighting and i'm like no he's not he's fine i initially thought that they were gonna go to the heel route and be like oh it looks like you're beating him up but he's just going to sucker punch you when you're overconfident or something of that nature i don't know um they had the ability to do something more using the war center right uh yeah so cinder comes in kicks the style of charmeleon launches him through a brick like half of a brick wall leaves like a head shaped like mark in it and then charming like rolls out dude the thing i love about the fight the most and this goes to like both

52:31 incineroar fights is how he goes from like running to going down on like all just to be more like like the cat and then he's just like aggressive all the time it's scary but i like it look to me it looks like gorilla dude [ __ ] animation when he goes fire fang i was expecting just like his teammates to just see like the whole hope i was like i got so hype and then just this slam animation just like see like seeing like the purple hand and then just like going like that i thought like it was like if that was like any other like shonen right through the throat he's getting thrown to the ground mortal kombat x-rayed that charmander yeah no no no homie got folded i think the worst part about that though thinking about it all

53:18 is that charmander not charmeleon only did not only go through that that wall once yeah went through it twice yeah oh that thing has broken vertebrae dude the um there there's another point in this fight though that where it's kind of weird to me and i'm not sure if it's just worded weirdly but they're like oh charmeleon can't continue because he's he's using like newly evolved energy or something yeah he's not used to his power i'm like that doesn't make sense for the second fight right charizard just comes in he's like i'm good i i always have i remember reading an article at one point uh way back during johto where it was like why did bayleaf have body slam as soon as it evolved because it doesn't get it to level whatever whatever yeah um and someone like one of the creators like

54:04 anime and game don't match like level scaling is like it's basically imagine the monster is big and strong because he's big and strong looking not because he's level 36 versus level 60 something um but one thing i did really like is when he tries to make charmander new moves he doesn't know yet and charman or charmeleon rather and he's like just kind of like sputtering flames because he like gets the idea but doesn't know how to produce it flamethrower yeah yeah he's just like yeah so it's interesting because i i really is that what that was they they say it later when the fight is wrapped up he in during the moment where yeah he's like this is what you get for trying to have him use moves he cannot do i think he says that it looks like it's a throat chop thing yeah

54:50 that's right after the third shot but there there are two different lines of dialogue one is like he's like doesn't matter if he's evolved he's weak is always weak he's not used to the power of it yet and then at the end of it he's like that's what you get for like thinking that you're strong just because your pokemon evolved trying to make it use moves you don't know you're getting overconfident and he's like that's why you're a bad trainer that's why i'll always be better than you here and he leaves that's so the the reason why i got confused i guess at that moment is does charizard charmander does charmeleon use a different fire move at the beginning i i think that that they kind of clash with and then incineroar beats so i don't remember because it's flamethrower flamethrower right is that what it is that i had to do flamethrower yeah and that's and then when you ask them to use

55:36 it again they brought up the whole you're trying to tell it when i was like he just used it i'm not that's why i got confused i know that sometimes they draw ember like it's uh even fire blasts it's not like so if we know fireblast is being like the man figure yeah but there are some times where charizard will use fireblast and it's just a stream that's like bigger or like a bigger yeah to use dragon range later my favorite moment is with with this fight it says a lot and empowers something that pops up later with with ash and cross we'll get there when we get there but that moment says a lot more because of what happens in the library where he overhears this because

56:22 for me that was like cross is only fighting ash not because he's like he's like you have my charmander oh you think you evolved you're tough you got a rainbow wing and i didn't yeah because at that moment and that that's what empowers this fight so much earlier i think the luxury thing is after the marsh shadow dark mind i think because after this ash is walking away and he's like if that was pikachu he could have won that fight i'll pull the list of every character that's ever died yeah in pokemon yeah whether it's anime or uh manga nah the rattata movies and i was like i was just looking at the list and i can't be that big it's pretty big yeah it's like this and some of them happen in movies that we watch that i'm like

57:07 oh [ __ ] this person or this pokemon died tyranitar forever he can't swim i have a singular meme in here that matches within this time frame uh if pokemon unite has taught me anything when charmander was fighting jigglypuff should have died should have died defense girl yeah no charmander sucks and unite if you think he's good you're lying charmander charizard charizard charizard just leaves the ground he also sucks just not as much as nobody too is just like hey i want to drop you on your neck so we have 10 seconds of doing stuff 10 seconds of paralysis while they realign their spine but then we get the whole uh yeah so this is where ash is like yeah if i got squirt or bulbasaurus would

57:53 have been different and then she's like that's not fair to charmander and i'm trying to get a pikachu at a one yeah pikachu would have won it's not far to charmander and he's like you just don't get it he like runs away and pikachu's like what the hell and then then he says if i got squirrel bulbasaur instead then she's like ouch and then ash runs off to the tree and like that they make a comment earlier about like the rainbow ring the rainbow wing stays colorful because of the soul or the heart of the person wielding it when it it loses its color upon contact with a dark heart i think is like the wording yeah and then i assume marshado's weird in this movie because it's like he watches and doesn't get involved but then gets involved at times i don't know how much motive was and that was something that was kind of like i'm like what's his end goal here

58:40 because it just seems to just be read the rainbow wing yeah that's a big question for me when it comes to this movie is like i'm really confused with marshadow at least when it comes to the end because at least when it comes to this particular moment coming up we can see that maybe it's fiddling to see if ash still is capable of being yeah and he learns a lesson from being in the dream and so the the color comes back to right it's from what i remember he's the guide to the rainbow warrior yeah so what i'm assuming here is like if you're feeling that show that you feel that and like show me how you really feel and then he puts him in the world without the pokemon and like like in the dream of it and then ash comes out and he's like no i couldn't live without my pokemon it's

59:26 not their fault it's my fault i didn't know what they were capable of i should have been better so in the i found the call the lioness that they said in japanese says pikachu would have won this and he's pathetic that's the lie and they also explained the rainbow wing as it only shines when it's pure heart yeah it was just the line that they used yeah so basically ash goes in the dark world comes out i'm the [ __ ] up and the the wing comes back to life and marsha was like all right welcome back to dark road um i'm watching you don't don't be a little emo [ __ ] okay just saying this is what paul does to his pokemon you're [ __ ] strong so like maybe actually roast his pokemon a little bit more but uh maybe i think around now is when we get the this is where soros like okay so so you know when it comes to bonds here's what happened and then he talks about the

1:00:12 luxury when he was a kid so this scene was very out of place because the whole movie is like kid friendly and very like child see that charm you get [ __ ] up like the theme of the movie is child friendly yeah and then they added this super [ __ ] dark part and it was like whoa compared to like the rest of the movie i was like holy [ __ ] they went i i applaud the movie at this point no i don't know no but like to me like we we've always get to this point in pokemon movie where we feel like something should happen and just doesn't because we complain oh it's a movie it's not going to happen yeah but we've had a couple instances and i think it works better with this particular instance because it happens sort of in the middle where pokemon dies off and the death is supposed to be mean something

1:00:58 sacrificial with this it also means something but it's not in the at the end so it's not a big downer but we also that it shows me that okay you you're allowed to let pokemon die they're allowed to die in the movies and i i'm to me that's a to me that's a breath of fresh air because i feel like we go we've gone a couple movies where it felt like something should have passed and it just doesn't so i like the scene it's just the contrast of this thing compared to the rest of the movie caught me off guard like watching it i was like holy [ __ ] they went there i think the rest of the movie goes back to being back to this child friendly nice bubbly colorful i think this movie does a really good

1:01:44 job of being like a hopeful colorful and then there's the whole like pikachu almost dying to fearow and then there's like hopeful colorful making new friends finding the abused charmander who's abandoned and like doesn't trust people then hopeful and colorful charmander gets beat the [ __ ] by an incineroar and then ash is like my pokemon are weak like if i like if they were better than i would be better and then it goes to like this like like uh he doesn't appreciate his pokemon here's a world where they just don't exist and then he like gains an appreciation and then the two people not knowing the dream which by the way is fantastic because sometimes characters just know [ __ ] they shouldn't and they're just like ash what happened where were you on the roof of the school yeah yeah and and they're like like uh cyril is kind of like he's kind of like you have to like appreciate your

1:02:29 pokemon and then he gives the whole like luxury story and he's like when i was younger like me and my family had a lux ray i got lost out in the snow luxury cuddled up to me to keep me warm throughout the night i woke up got saved luck sabre was dead and like when i when i saw that i had to pause and i was like holy so that was taking straight from the from the uh manga there's a character that that that does that exact same scenario uh but it's two pokemon it's a uh lux ray and it's a um pyro oh and i love them those are like his family's pokemon the character's family died he got the two pokemon he got caught in a snowstorm and the pyroar used to remain on his fire to keep him

1:03:16 warm so he died while playing and i was like holy [ __ ] this is you know the way they told the story here was like it was very

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