Schlep - EVERY Parent Needs to Watch This | SRS #284

0:02 Get ready for a heavy one. I have been waiting a long time to meet this guy ever since Ryan Montgomery came on the show and told us about all the shenanigans that are going on with the game Roblox. And he brought up a gentleman that goes by the name Schle who kind of kicked this whole thing off. And so finally got to meet him. Amazing amazing human being. wouldn't expect anything less from somebody referred to me by Ryan Montgomery. But um I just want to warn you this is an extremely heavy episode and we had to pull a couple of parts because it's not YouTube friendly and

0:49 that's not a blast to YouTube. This stuff is super heavy, man. Like really really heavy. And if you're a parent, you need to watch this, especially if you have a kid that's on the game Roblox. So, if you want to see the uncensored version, it's on Vigilance Elite Patreon. I will be honest, probably 95% or more of the content, the original content is on YouTube, but there's just these small little portions that just we can't put it out on YouTube. And here's why. We can't put it out on YouTube because if this gets pulled down, it will be

1:35 detrimental to potentially millions of kids and millions of parents who are trying to protect their kids and we don't want to take that chance. So, the meat's in there. Everything you need to know is in this episode, but if you want if you want the real nasty stuff that's going on, it's it's on Patreon. But with that being said, I just want to tell you my goal and Schle's goal is just to save kids. That's what this is about. This isn't about numbers. This isn't about money. This isn't about anything but protecting kids. I think as time goes on and we see the stuff with this Epstein stuff roadblocks exploitation, all that kind of stuff

2:20 that's going on with our children needs to be exposed. That's what we're doing. I hate to say this, but enjoy the show. >> Schlle, >> pleasure to be here, >> dude. I've been waiting a long time for this. >> I have too. I have too. So, uh, our mutual friend Ryan Montgomery, uh, told me about you in the last in in in the last episode and, uh, man, I just I just think the world of Ryan and, um, you know, he's we were we were chatting about him at breakfast and, uh, >> man, there just are not very many hearts in

3:06 the world that are more genuine than that, guys. and um he spoke very highly of you and and you guys sound very similar. The most important thing is uh saving kids and it's not about getting money for a [ __ ] nonprofit. It's not about monetizing [ __ ] It's it's it's from I know 100% for sure. Um that's true with Ryan and Brian pretty much says the same about you. So >> I just want to start off saying thank you for what you're doing. >> I appreciate it. job. >> How old are you? 22. >> 22 years old. >> For a 22year-old man/kid. Sorry, but um I know you're not a kid, but you're young. And in in in the I I just want to say, you know, for a

3:52 22year-old man to be going up against a multi-billion dollar corporation just to do what's right with I'm pretty sure there's no monetary value in that. Uh you're risking a lot. That's that's an example I wish a lot more people would follow, especially our [ __ ] politicians. >> I mean, for for for this whole stuff that I've been doing. I mean, I pretty much put my whole career on the line. Um, I mean, I I was doing stuff totally unrelated. Like, I I I lost revenue streams because of because of this stuff. And I I would do it again in a heartbeat to to tell parents the truth of what's going on cuz it it is so crazy. I I like I had never seen anything in my life like this. So I I

4:39 really thank you for the platform to be able to speak on this. Um and I I I hope a lot of parents see this and they realize they need to take their kids off of this game. >> Oh, a lot of parents are going to see this. A lot are going to see this. You're a good man. But before we get into the dark [ __ ] because you are a gamer. >> Yeah, I am a gamer. >> What are your favorite games? >> Well, okay. So, my my favorite game is is on Roblox. Uh, and it was what I pretty much built my first channel on. Uh, I got 150,000 subscribers just playing a a Roblox game. Is uh you ever heard of like Roller Coaster, Tycoon, those sort of games. Someone built that on on Roblox and it was super cool. I mean, it it rivaled like games made by,

5:24 you know, these studios and it was just one guy. Um, and that I turned that into a whole career where I was making all these videos and had all these fan. I mean, it was great. >> You're not a Call of Duty guy? >> No, I'm really not. >> What? >> I I never really got that much into like uh, you know, first-person shooter games. I mean, I I play some, but I No, I never got into Call of Duty. Not really, >> dude. I did a little uh we did a little collaboration with Call of Duty here recently. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. I used to play Call of Duty all the time overseas. So, I don't I don't know if you know anything about me, but I was a SEAL and uh did some contract work for the agency. Spent a lot of time in like really remote [ __ ] holes and uh and uh a lot of the the majority of the

6:12 time you're sitting around at a base in the middle of nowhere doing nothing. So, we would link our Xboxes all together. One at one point I actually lived in a [ __ ] abandoned jail. >> Wow. And so our rooms were the jail cells and we would when you went in the in the hallway all you saw was just wires going from cell to cell to cell people screaming at each other. So anyways, I do this Call of Duty collaboration. I'm like, "Oh man, this and I had to play it. I'm like, "Oh, this is I'm going to get back into this shit." So I went and I got a [ __ ] Xbox. >> Dude, no. Really? >> Yeah. I spawn. I get killed. Yeah, I mean realized I've respawned and they're already [ __ ] killing me. I'm like >> that's the problem I have with first person shooter games. I I just I suck at them.

6:57 >> I'm not good. I'm not good at them. I'm not I've never been good at those like really fast-paced shooter games. So, I'm just I'm always dying. I'm always a person on my team that's like losing and carrying us down. So, I just don't play. >> Maybe we should uh have a little tournament after this. Who Who's gonna win? Sean or Slop in Call of Duty. What um what are some of the what are some of the other games? I mean, we're we're specifically here to talk about Roblox and what you're doing to protect kids uh from that platform, but what what are some of the other games that you know that you're aware of that people need to watch out for with their kids? >> VR Chat is definitely one of the worst games I have ever seen in terms of predators. The reason why Roblox is bad

7:45 is due to the scale of how many just predators there are, how many they're taking advantage. But for peruser basis, VR chat has way more predators in terms of if you join a lobby, the chances you're going to see a predator. I mean, it it's, you know, one of the first lobbies I joined on the game, there were uh it was a whole group of people confronting someone for for grooming a kid. Um, almost every lobby is filled with with nude avatars. I was actually blown away by >> Hold on. What is VR Chat? >> Yeah. Yeah. Let let me explain. So, it's a game that's being hosted on Oculus um and Steam uh which are the the two biggest or well Steam is the biggest online gaming uh seller, but um Oculus

8:33 is hosting this game as well, which is Facebook and um VR Chat. pretty much you make an account, you can be, I think, 13, that that's the age on it. And when you create an account, this is something I've never seen with literally any platform. Um, you have to go into settings to turn off inappropriate content. Like, if you're a kid, you have to go into settings and do it. >> Shouldn't it be the opposite? You have to go turn on >> inappropriate content. >> Yes, it should be. You have to turn it on, but you shouldn't even have the ability to turn it on if you're a minor and your account is set to a minor. That's another question I have before you go on. When you say you have to be 13 cuz I mean you you >> you put your birthday in to every email address. Pretty much anything these days you have to put your birthday in if you

9:18 want an account. Instagram, Facebook, whatever, right? But there's never any I mean I never put my birthday on anything. I'm just pick some random [ __ ] You know what I mean? >> So is that all is that when you say you have to be 13, is it just type in your birthday here or do you actually is there >> you put your Oh, you're 13. Okay. I guess if you tell someone, "Oh, I'm actually 12. I'm not 13." Then they'll ban you. But I mean, kids just learned, "Oh, don't say my age on this. Say you're 13." >> Okay. >> And uh >> so it so there's nothing there's nothing preventing anybody that's under 13 to get in there. >> As far as I'm aware of. Yeah. There really isn't anything. Yeah. >> As long as you can do some simple math and figure out what year you have to have been born to be 13. >> Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I was I was

10:04 really blown away with VR Chat because I mean, it was instantly you would join a lobby and you would see nude avatars. I mean, it was and they're like the top experiences on the game just are are filled with with naked and nude avatars and kids can play. It's on the app store as well. Um, which from my knowledge totally breaks Apple's uh guidelines in terms of what what is being allowed to be hosted. Um, yeah. I' I've never seen a game that like filled with child predators um as VR Chat. And it it's very interesting because two of the Roblox guys we ended up getting arrested. Um they were grooming kids on VR chat. Um one one specifically I I'll talk about a little later. Um he he like

10:50 a video was just released. Hey Schlle, I I caught the guy you got arrested on VR chat grooming kids. Um, so yeah, I mean this it's it's another tool that these predators are using to to groom kids. And I think another problem with it too is um the way VR is set up where for instance, you know, if someone is looking at something bad on a computer, you can just walk in and see it. But when you're wearing VR goggles, you don't even know what what's being displayed to your kid. >> So yeah, I I that's a horrible game. Um I would say >> that's a good point. I not even thought of that. And that's I've talked to parents uh that have had their kids victimized on it and they're like, "I had no idea this was even possible." Like I I watched them play it like right in front of me. Like the concept of your

11:37 kid could possibly be getting groomed right in front of your eyes and you can't see it. That's that's like a really terrifying thought. Um >> what's the point of this VR? What do you call it? VR chat. >> VR chat. Yeah. >> What is the point of the game? >> It's a social hangout game. So, it's a game where you pretty much just like hang out, find friends. They have different mini games and stuff like that on there. They they have like a a community store and stuff like that that you can kind of kind of it's similar to Roblox in certain aspects. Um but it's very different as well. Um but yeah, we actually almost got a guy arrested off of that game um last month. He was planning on he bought actually a bus ticket from uh I it was close towards

12:24 where Mexico uh I think it was Brownsville, Texas. Um he bought a bus ticket to go to Round Rock, which was would have been a 12-hour bus ticket one way. Um to to meet what what he thought was a minor. Um and he said, "I'm going to show up. We're going to have blah blah blah." and it got cancelled last moment because the mom figured out, oh, hey, my my son is getting on a bus ticket 12 hours away or taking a a 12-h hour bus ride. Um, so yeah, that I mean it's it is so easy to find chop predators on that game and that's that's something I'll be targeting really soon. I I I'm going to be hopefully getting some people arrested on that game. >> Yeah. So, I had a couple of facts I wanted to read off to you. In 2024, the

13:11 National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Cyber Tip Line received 20.5 million reports of suspected child exploitation, which equals 29.2 million separate incidents. And those reports included 62.9 million files. They also report more than 546,000 online enticement reports in 2024, which is a 192% increase compared to 2023. And in just the first half of 2025, online enticement reports jumped from 292,000 to 518,000

13:59 yearover-year without man. And so this here's a question. Without naming minors or exposing active investigations, what are the top kid heavy games or online spaces right now where children are most exposed to predators? And what do those spaces all have in common? >> Um, >> let's leave Roblox out of this one. We know Roblox is one. Give us some stuff that people don't know. >> Discord. If your kid is on Discord, take them off immediately. Um, that in my opinion is one of the most unsafe platforms I've ever seen. I mean, I I was groomed on Discord as a kid. Um, most girls that I know that have used Discord when they were growing up, they were victimized on the platform. Um, I

14:47 would call that the modern-day version of Kick, which was uh, you know, back in the earlyish 2010s. It was a a very popular chat messaging app that that groomed or had tons of kids that got victimized on it. Um that is one of the worst apps I've seen and and they've gone out of their way to protect predators. I I that was what what blew my mind. Um I I'll talk a little bit about this later, but >> what's Kick? >> Uh Kick is a um that was an app, a chat messaging app. Um, I mean there were so many cases related to kids being groomed and victimized. It was a a chat me like you would you could have group chats and then you can move those group chats to private messaging. And I mean it was it

15:33 was really bad. I mean that was a go-to for a lot of predators. Um I mean I I know people in my real life just unrelated to you know the work I do. They were victimized on on kick. >> So kick VR chat. Yeah, >> Discord. >> Yeah. and and Snapchat. That That's all >> Snapchat. >> Snapchat uh initially was made um to to it was a from what I know it was a an app created to to get nudes from people. It was to exchange nudes. That was the reason why it was created. And I mean that that app is involved in so many cases related to grooming. I mean there's absolutely no reason a child should be using Snapchat. I mean it is private messaging. you know, it where you can't view it as a parent.

16:19 >> Um, so yeah, that that's a really horrible one. I I I have heard so many cases related to that. And um there there's also some other encrypted apps like Telegram that sometimes >> Oh, yeah. I was more talking about stuff that's specifically made for kids, you know, like like >> Yeah. >> I don't know, Candy Land. >> Yeah. >> You know, uh I mean, just social media sites. I mean there there there's so many problems with them as a whole, but I I'd say right now gaming stuff there it would it would really be uh Roblox VR chat and and Discord. Discord is is really bad. Um and if your kid is on them, just take them off outright. Yeah, >> that's that's how I would describe that.

17:06 You know, be before we get into this interview, I just want to I just want to we're going to talk about this, but I I want this is more for the audience, especially for parents and kids who are concerned about this, >> but you know, we we've uncovered so many things on the show here. you know, it kind of all started with Ryan Montgomery, >> you know, and talking about the 764 cult and now we're talking about roadblocks and and I just dug into Canook, which we were chatting about at breakfast and the thousands of kids that, you know, according to Elizabeth Phillips, have been molested there and they put them under NDA after they reach a settlement so they can never talk about them again. you know, and and and time and time again, you know, the audience and and and and

17:54 everybody who's aware of what's going on, when these things start to get traction, it becomes this, you know, tear down the institution. And they're not wrong. I'm totally about that. [ __ ] hey, tear it down. Like, if these people are going to cover for pedophiles, then it needs to be it needs to be torn down immediately. But I think that, you know, but that doesn't ne necessarily constitute a win. And so what people need to understand is I mean you you believe in good and evil, I'm sure. >> Absolutely. >> And I believe in good and evil. And us as human beings, we're never going to destroy evil. It's just going to flow into the next thing. And so, and that is the same with predators. A lot of these

18:41 people, nobody knows. I mean, nobody knows they're a predator. They don't have they don't have a wrap sheet. They've never been arrested. There's no evidence of them >> having that being a predator. >> Yeah. >> You know, being attracted to kids. >> And so if you you have to kind of put your mind into the mind of how they would think. And how would they think? Well, I want an occupation that I can also explore my fantasy in. You know what I mean? Undetected. And so, they're going to become teachers. They're going to become camp counselors. They're going to start teaching swimming lessons. They're going to be at band. They're going to teach

19:26 ballet gymnastics jiu-jitsu karate >> soccer. All this is what they do because that's that's their passion is exploiting and abusing kids. And so they they their whole life is you see what I'm saying? And so >> yeah, great. We took down we took down an institution. Cool. >> We didn't get everybody inside of that institution. >> And so those people are just going to flow into the next thing. They're gonna they're going to become your your kid's soccer coach. And so, yes, should we be taking down the institutions? Yes. But the parents and kids and and and and in and and guardians, what they really need

20:13 to be thinking about is these people are everywhere. They're amongst us. They could be your family members. Of course, nobody wants to think that they're but they could be. You know what I mean? I I I don't know the percentage, but the majority of sexual abuse that happens is from a family member or friend or family friend. And so these are people that you trust. These are people that you've been around that are around you on a daily basis. And so the what the point I'm trying to make is you need to educate your kids. You need to have the discussions with them on what's appropriate, what's not appropriate, what needs to happen if something happens. Cuz I don't think enough people are having these discussions. These discussions started at my house >> when I was changing diapers.

21:00 >> Nobody gets to Nobody touches that, buddy. >> Anybody touches that, you tell mom or dad immediately. The babysitter. >> Anybody. Anybody. Nobody. Nobody has to see it. Nobody touches it. That's yours and yours only. You know, and you have to ingrain that into your kids' heads so that if something happens because it's it's this is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. >> Absolutely. and uh and and and it's been like this for a long time because I've had so many people on the show who I mean this show started with with with special operations backgrounds and life stories and and I started noticing right off the bat how many adults have been abused as a child and it's it's

21:49 I'll bet it's 50% of the people that have been on here or more. >> Mhm. just those are just the ones that have told me that. Yeah, >> a lot of them are actually in the interview. >> And so I I just wanted to put that out to parents like that's great. We're taking the institutions that are doing this [ __ ] down that the ones that aren't protecting kids. Like that's great. It needs to happen, but they're the ones that haven't been caught, they're just going to go to the next place. >> Absolutely. >> And they're invisible >> until they have a record. >> Yeah. I'd go one step further. I think really parents, they need to build a connection with their kid where cuz a lot of kids now in this day and age, something will happen to them like they'll be they'll they'll send a photo they shouldn't have and a predator will try to sex them. And parents are should

22:38 be the person that this kid goes to that they should feel comfortable. They should be able to actually be like, "Hey, I I did this. I know I screwed up." But they they shouldn't view it as like uh my life is over. You know, it shouldn't be a punishment thing in a sense. They should be able to go to you because what a lot of hap happens a lot and I I've seen this so much. Kids are afraid to tell their parents anything cuz they think they're going to get punished. They think all their devices are going to get taken. And I mean, you know, and I do think in some aspects that that is kind of warranted, but it it will make your kid not want to say anything. And what what ends up happening with like is a lot of kids they just they they take their own lives and it's so tragic uh I it is I I really

23:28 the conversation that needs to be had is like if someone says something or does something to you online you should tell me and we we will go get this guy together you know we will go to the police station we'll make sure that this guy can't hurt anyone else shouldn't be if someone messages you bad you're never chatting on the internet again, you know, that's that's >> I love what you're saying there and I I actually >> do this with my kids who are >> toddlers, you know, but it and but you have to build the trust with your kids, you know, and so what do I what I mean by that is, for example, couple weeks ago, my four-year-old broke, I don't know, piece some something that had sentimental value. It was like a

24:13 vase or something. It had sentimental value to the family. And he I I saw him do it and I was hoping, you know, I I wanted to see how he react, if he hid it from me or if he if he took ownership and and and immediately comes over, freaked out, thinks he's in deep [ __ ] you know, and he's like, "I'm sorry I broke." And and and instead of being all pissed off cuz he broke some stupid vase that meant something to the family, I'm like, "Hey, good job." you know, I rewarded him, you know, and told him what a good job he did by by taking ownership of his mistake. And so the next time he does something like that, he's hopefully, you know, going to going to going to going

24:58 to rely on past experience and go, I need to tell my dad that I [ __ ] up. >> Mhm. >> And he's going to help me fix it. >> Yeah. >> You know, and and that's the relationship that I think that people need to be building with their kids, not reprimanding them. and and punishing them every single time. I mean, yes, punishment is you get what I'm I think you get what I'm saying. So, >> yeah. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I I think another thing, too, is education is definitely so warranted with with with kids. I mean, they they need to know that there's bad people out there that are trying to take advantage of them. And I mean, there the grooming that these predators do is so calculated. I mean, they have they have actual textbooks of hundreds of pages how they groom kids. Um, it is so

25:45 systematic and and they need to understand that there are people out there that want to hurt them that that literally want to for them to kill themselves on on a webcam. Like that's >> it. I can't even comprehend saying that myself because it's like when I was a kid growing up on the internet. There was some stuff, but it was never like what 764 or any of these uh you know communities are now. And it's it's really scary. And that conversation could literally save your child's life. I mean that's that's that's how I view it at least. >> I've walked out of doctor's appointments before thinking, "What did I actually learn?" You're fine. Drink more water. No real data, no real plan. That's why

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28:05 creator known for exposing child predators on Roblox through sting operations and decoy accounts. A Roblox grooming survivor yourself, you're targeted and exploited as a young teen by a prominent Roblox developer. Founder of a channel that has led to multiple arrests of alleged predators who used Roblox to groom miners. Permanently banned from Roblox in August of 2025 along with a cease and desist letter threatening legal action. You continue predator catching work off platform collaborating with law enforcement to secure convictions. >> Yep. >> You're a hell of a guy. And you know I I want to say that uh I've offered the

28:52 seat I told you on the way here >> Roblox communications uh has been in touch with us when I I can't I left a comment on your ex or somehow they found out you were coming and got in touch with us >> and uh so we've been in communication with them. >> Not me personally. I didn't want any comms with them until after our interview. Yeah. And uh but I did offer the CEO of Roblox a spot on the show to tell everybody what they're doing to improve child safety on their platform. One thing that scares me about doing that is I was just talking to Jeremy about this upstairs is uh

29:38 I'm scared to bring him on because I don't want people to not watch that episode and then think, "Oh, Sean had the CEO Roblox on. It must be safe because heaven forbid if a [ __ ] parent doesn't watch that episode and just sees that I had him on and they think everything's okay and then their kid goes on there and gets exploited or worse >> um by that 764 group. That's that's on me and that's not something that uh I want to live with. But anyways, let's let's start with your backstory. >> Mhm. >> Where'd you grow up?

30:23 >> Uh, I grew up in Southern California. Um, I have two loving parents. I had a sister. She's awesome. Um, and uh, I I was raised pretty middle class life. Um, um, my both my parents worked. Um, and uh really uh I as a kid I I liked gaming. I played Minecraft a lot. Um, but Roblox was just something that instantly like grabbed my attention. Uh, I was at a a friend's house. And >> how old were you when you started gaming? >> Oh, I I don't even know. I mean, I was gaming very very young. I mean, my my dad had a PlayStation and I would literally just hop on racing games and

31:08 stuff like that. So, gaming has always kind of been something that I I had been involved with ever since I was very very little. I don't even know how old I was when >> So, as far as you can remember, you've been >> As far as I can remember, I've been playing video games and um yeah um I went over to a friend's house um and he uh his cousin was over and he was playing this game and me and my friend were just instantly like whoa. Like cuz we love Legos. We would uh build Lego stuff and this was Lego the video game, the most ultimate one where you could do anything, be anything. And we were just hooked. I mean, we played all these games. We come home from school every day. Um and we would play like these awesome war games um there on on Roblox.

31:56 We uh would build stuff. I mean, it was it was really a lot of fun. and I had a lot of good childhood memories on the game. Um, but then in 2015, I caught uh uh it was I think it was MRSA was what I caught. Yeah, I caught that. You see right here? This is a I have a scar from my surgery. Um I >> some serious [ __ ] >> Yeah, I I it I was in the hospital for over a month because of it. Uh I had a reaction to the medication they gave me. I had I think two surgeries. It It was It was pretty scary. I I was placed in the ICU for a while and um I I was put on all these insane medications and you

32:41 know I had a lot of time where I couldn't go to school. So that that was where I really started getting into Roblox a lot. Um, and you know before that I was kind of learning scripting a little bit which is a like you know is Lua which was the programming langu language of Roblox and just like you know building games so I can play with my friends but I had a lot of free time. >> How long has Roblox been around? >> 2006. So it's >> it's been around since ' 06. >> Yeah, but it it was a totally different platform between then and now. I mean it is it doesn't even look recognizable. Um but yeah, we uh I I got involved really into Roblox because I I I got sick and I

33:26 went to these um uh conferences, Roblox did around around the United States or it was a it wasn't conference, it was they they set up booths at STEM events um to show that Roblox was like an educational platform and I helped them do that. I'm in some of the promotional footage that was used to for that. Um, but yeah, I was really um into Roblox as a kid and I I had a lot of time because I was in the hospital. Um, and I I when I got out of the hospital, I couldn't go back to normal school because um I I was feeling so ill from all the medication I was on. So, I I had a lot of time online. And that was where I met um a

34:13 game developer who at the time he he made my favorite game online. It was like a little miniame sort of thing. It was really cool. And we um started communicating and um I had talked to this guy for for multiple years. >> How did you meet this guy? >> It was on a Discord server owned by Roblox employees. >> How How old were you at the time? >> I want to say I was 12. >> How old was this guy? He was, I believe, 19 turning 20, so he was a lot older than me. Um, yeah, I I met I met him on a on a Discord server that was owned by employees at at Roblox. It was called the Roblox Discord. So, I mean, you

35:00 know, it wasn't, I guess, official in the capacity of, you know, Roblox was advertising on all their social medias, but it was owned and operated by employees at the company. Um, and I I met my abuser on there and um, it it started out innocent where he let me like moderate for his community. Um, which is a common thing you'll see with these Predators, specifically Roblox. They'll give them people like kids roles and stuff so that they feel like, whoa, like, oh my gosh, this is a cool as a kid getting to to moderate the coolest game you love on the site. that just it blew my world. Like I was like, "Oh my gosh." And um I started noticing he would have

35:47 these inappropriate conversations with me and I >> like what >> he would he would talk about like masturbation and stuff like that like with with a like a 12-year-old kid. >> How how like how does he bring that up to a 12-year-old? I remember one instance he was in a call with another girl and I believe this girl was either 15 or 16 at the time and I'm like, "What are you guys doing?" And he's like, "Oh, we're like masturbating in calls together and blah blah blah." And I'm like, "Ew, that's gross." And then he was trying to explain to me how that was a good thing. And like, >> how would he say it's a good thing? >> Normal thing. That maybe that's the right way to put it. I that's that's how he was trying to he was trying to normalize that sort of like weird gross degenerate behavior to me. But it it

36:33 progressively got worse. I I noticed he started having this obsession or he probably always did, but he started showing it more and more with mass shooters. >> I want you to be >> Mhm. >> just a little bit more descriptive if you can. Yeah. >> And here's why. Because >> a lot of parents are watching this >> and a lot of parents are then going to watch this with their kids. Yeah. >> And a lot of kids are going to watch this. M. >> And so when you talk about the progression >> Yeah. >> of how it happened, >> okay, >> if they hear how it happened, >> then they'll be able to recognize when it's happening to them. >> Yeah. Um Yeah. I mean, like the the conversations they they started out normal. They they and it went on normal for a while, but as time progressed, he

37:20 he began getting more and more like just open with how he would communicate with me. like he would talk more graphic like he would talk about like and like and stuff like that with me and I I didn't recognize the behavioral difference in that cuz I mean I was a kid. Nobody had ever talked to me like that. >> Mhm. >> Um >> how did that make you feel? >> Very uncomfortable. Very very uncomfortable. I I I remember saying that in messages and he the first relationship he was in I I I couldn't recognize like what a predator was. I never even knew what a predator was at this time. I mean the the most I had seen was like Chris Hansen to Catch a

38:05 Predator, but I thought it was a prank show, you know? I didn't think it was actual like like like I I couldn't understand it. And I I remember there was one conversation he had with me because he was in a relationship he clearly shouldn't have been with this girl where he said um hey is this relationship between a 15-year-old and a 19-year-old. I believe that's what he said. Is that okay? And I was like oh yeah my my parents they they got a you know my parents have a larger age gap than that than that. You know my parents they met in when my mom was 30 you know. So I uh I couldn't recognize that stuff, but that stuff if if like I I had known a little more like maybe I could have like >> they manipulate you. >> Yeah. I mean that's what it was. Like it

38:50 was it was I don't think I have like even now met someone so manipulative. I mean it was it was insane. Like the people that like I know that were also victimized by this guy also say the exact same stuff. I mean, he was such a manipulator. He would try to get anybody to do whatever he felt necessary. Um, but yeah, I mean, as as it continued with these conversations, he he would show me like gore, which was like, you know, I was a child. I I it was that that was like probably some of the most traumatic like things for a a kid to see. I mean, here I Let me Let me actually show you. I I have some stuff

39:36 on my laptop. Um some of the messages. Uh let me pull this up real quick. Okay. So, you can see this here. This is I I believe I was either 14 or 15 here. This is the Christ Church shooting. And he he sent me This is a girl dead in the street. He made me watch this shooting in full um on on Discord and he he actually I remember specifically um he he he made me have to screen share that I was watching cuz I was like I'm not going to watch this. I'm not he's like turn on your screen share or I'm banning you from all your stuff. And he he also had my information which I had

40:24 accidentally leaked. Um and he was >> pull that out of you. He He So I think what happened here? I I think I have an image of it. Um yeah. Oh, okay. Here it is. So I had He was like, "I don't believe you're actually the age you are." And I mean, I'm just such a stupid kid. I looking back like, "Why did I do this?" But um >> cuz you're 12. That's why you did it. >> That's why I did this. But um yeah, I mean here here was him. How old was I? This is 2016. So, this is him threatening to put my ID on his banner on his Roblox account or Twitter account, and he's threatening to do it. Is that don't do it. Is that a challenge? I mean, that that was the messages he he was writing to me as a

41:11 kid, and he would constantly threaten to publish my information, to contact my family members. Um, you know, it it was really really traumatic and I I didn't know how to get away. Um uh as as time continued, he he started grooming more and more kids. Um I have one more thing, too. This one is pretty bad. Um this was a girl he groomed. Um here you go. So I He had made this girl like she she was selfharmed. She selfharmed because of the grooming and abuse this guy was putting her through. She had stuck a pin through one hand or side out the other. And I remember and I

41:56 didn't understand it cuz it it's hard for me to convey cuz it like looking back it's like this was so obvious but it was not obvious to me. I that girl in specifics he instructed this girl to lie about her age to everyone online. Um and and it's it's so disgusting. I mean, it she she actually uh dropped out of high school early because of the abuse that she was suffered because of this guy. She had to go back and redo stuff. She she had to deal with a lot of harassment and and just I mean it was it was horrific to see. >> How did it get to that point? >> Um >> send images of herself.

42:44 pretty pretty much what what had happened was someone had joined his community on Ro or like he joined his discord server he got that was linked directly on Roblox and she had um she was a vulnerable girl that he saw that he could take advantage of and he manipulated this mentally ill girl into doing a lot of horrible stuff. Um, and she was on she she started taking medication because of her depression and then she she was manipulated to keep taking it. Um, and I mean it was it was so disturbing. I mean, it was so so gross. And she she had tried to get away from

43:29 this guy and and she was like, "I can't be with you because of the age gap." And he was begging this girl to to continue to be in a relationship. um with her and and I didn't know a lot of this was going on because he had instructed everybody you talk to that that you are an adult. You you are um you know you aren't the age you actually are. So when I found out that she was actually the same or I think she was a year older than me, I was like, this had happened twice with two different girls he had groomed. And I it actually screwed with my perception of age because it was people I had viewed as adults were actually like friends.

44:16 >> They were they were the same age as me and it was like it it really screwed with my perception of age. like these people that I thought I was having conversations with that were adults, they were they were kids the same age as me. Yeah, it was it was really horrible. It was I mean it's something I still like have like kind of a hard time talking about in in full capacity, but it it >> Are you willing to go a little bit deeper? >> Um I mean that that's pretty much the gist of a lot of it. Um, I mean, he he would send me a lot of and and um he he would show me a lot of gore and he was just obsessed with mass shooters. But I mean that that was I that was

45:04 pretty much the gist of it. I I what ended up happening though um uh me and a friend had figured out a lot of what this dude had done. He would make kids strip on Discord calls. Multiple He would make kids piss themselves on on Discord calls. >> Did you ever have to do anything like that? >> No, I I never sent him any nudes or anything like that, but he he >> did. He ask >> He would have very inappropriate conversations with me. He he would ask me about like um like just really weird questions like about body hair and and masturbation and like oh what type of do you watch like that sort of stuff and it was definitely something that

45:52 just I didn't >> So he's planting seeds in your head that you don't even know exist yet as a kid. >> Yeah. to spark the curiosity so that you go and find that >> hoping that it blows your mind and then you come to him and then >> he's in. >> I think so. And I think one thing too was he he would use like material curated for kids. Like there was this one show. It was some French TV show and it was kind of like an adult comedy, but it would it actually like teached like about like like fetishes and and stuff like that. I forgot the name of it, but I mean he he intentionally showed that to me and and some other kids to teach us about

46:38 stuff. I mean that was it. There's actually a concept uh which I'll talk about a little later uh when it comes to these Roblox Predators, but it's called EPI. It's called early introduction, and it's what a lot of these predators do is they get off on the idea of turning children into porn addicts. like they there there's stuff I'll show later like they have whole like diagrams and and like stuff that they use to try to get kids into a pipeline so that and they get off on the idea of turning children into addicts so that they become like them. And a lot of the stuff he was doing really aligned with with a lot of that sort of stuff that related to that.

47:24 Um, but pretty much all this abuse culminated in um a suicide attempt. And this was after me and a friend had figured out about all this stuff. Um, we >> Your suicide attempt? >> Yeah. I I had a suicide attempt because >> How old were you? >> 15. I was 15. >> 15 years old. >> Yes. Yeah. I was I was 15 years old. And um it it it's man um Yeah. I I had pretty much what what had happened is I I figured out with a friend what was going on and we we just destroyed his whole Discord server and then he was threatening and all of that and I just I couldn't take it. I made an

48:10 attempt and >> how did you how were you going to do it? >> Uh I had pills that I was going to take. I had a lot of pills and called up my mom. I'm like, I need to go to the hospital right now. Um, she took me to a mental health hospital. While I was in the hospital, my mom was piecing together everything that had happened back at home. Um, >> [ __ ] >> Yeah. Um, >> at 15. >> Yeah. I mean, and let me clarify one thing, too. Th this person that had did this to me, he was a developer on Roblox that was featured in brand material all across the platform. He he was featured

48:55 in television ads that would play on Cartoon Network. His little toy, they were selling in in all across the United States. And this was the same guy that was not only blackmailing me, that was grooming me and exposing me to most heinous material. I mean, the Christ Church shooting was I had nightmare. I couldn't sleep. I literally could not sleep at night. And um yeah, I mean uh I made an attempt and while I was in the hospital, my mom pieced together what was going on. She made an email to Roblox and Roblox pretty much brushed her off. Uh they they had for one I think they just like responded back with the suicide hotline and then she said she wrote something

49:41 else and I guess she might I think she said she got in a call with someone at Roblox and they were just like we can't do anything you know it's not it's not we can't do anything. >> Did they know it's their developer? >> As far as I know yes. I mean that that that's I mean I I have >> so they know that one of their developers is the one that is exploiting kids and they respond and then you have a 15-year-old kid who tries to kill himself because of this [ __ ] developer >> and their response is a suicide hotline and there's nothing we can do. When I told Roblox about all this and why I I

50:27 do the work I did, that's what they emailed me back with. Like I I told them while I was getting these people arrested, I I'm doing this because I was victimized and they responded with the suicide hotline number. So yeah, I mean that's >> holy [ __ ] >> Pretty much how he had um what what ended up happening to him. a a victim of his went to Roblox and they were they were a high-profile person on the platform at that time and said that hey this person was not only leaking NDA material between the company and this guy which it was like I believe it was event related stuff which I mean that I mean that's the highest NDA stuff at least from my understanding as a

51:13 developer you could have um but it was this guy was abusing me and doing all this other horrible horrible, horrible stuff. Um, they had just terminated them off the platform and there were a lot of people were confused online because this was a a huge developer who just vanished and there was no safe from Roblox on any of it. I had talked to people who had were still in communication with this developer just to keep tabs on him, see what he was doing. And pretty much Roblox got this guy into a call and said, "Hey, why did you do this?" And he was like, "I'm gonna get my attorneys involved." And he um uh Roblox into the call and then just terminated all of his

51:58 accounts. That's what I was told by a third party. So I I don't know how accurate that is, but he was eventually banned. um which I in the in the time frame it took for him to get banned and from my situation, I had been fighting tooth and nail to get this guy removed off the platform. I was reaching out to to massive content creators um like Ruben Sim who I'll be talking about a little later um to to see if there's anything that could be done and I mean I tried everything and I I couldn't do anything and just it eventually came out what this guy had done and um yeah it was it was brutal and um I mean this is these are the type

52:47 of people that Roblox is protected in in the you know in the grand scheme of things. >> Is that the first time that your parents found out about it was your suicide attempt? >> Yes. And and even after that I was kind of like I was telling them bits and pieces but I wasn't telling them the entire thing until I got a little bit older. I was >> What kind of bits and pieces? I like I told him that this guy was like sending me but I wasn't telling him that this guy was exposing me to traumatic mass suicide or mass shooting gore and just like like how I was having so anxiety and and and just really depressed and I I bottled a lot of it up for a while and I I wish I went to my parents sooner about all of it and I think that's

53:35 >> What do you think the point of the mass shootings and gore was >> I think that these people genuinely are evil and they believe in chaos. >> Do you think it's a satanic cult? >> I I don't know about him in particular, but I I just know that these people are genuinely evil and they sympathize with evil and they they believe in evil and that's why he was attracted to evil. Be it kids, be it mass shootings. I mean, it was it was really really like one of the most sick individuals. I He was the most sick individual I'd ever met in my life. And he he was in brands. He was in the uh toys that were being sold all across

54:21 America. >> This just I just want to circle back to what we just talked about at the very beginning of this show. >> Yeah. >> These people are everywhere. >> Yep. >> And they find the occupations where they get access to kids. >> Yep. Here's probably some kind of a world-renowned developer engineer that's working on what wound up being probably the most successful kids game in the history of the world. And that's where he's at. Why? Because he wants to target kids. And so he put himself in a position where it makes it easy as hell to target kids. >> Yeah. >> And it worked. I mean, he he really threw out a lot of stuff to to groom

55:07 kids. I mean, before he got banned, he made one of the most technologically advanced games that the website had ever seen, and it blew people's minds. Like, it would he had spent so long working on it. And the reason why he made that was because out of a fit of rage and depression, he he after grooming a kid and and in the fear of being caught because a developer had kind of known about this. Um he had made this incredible game and he had a lot to lose and kept doing it. And I mean it. >> Now when you say developer also is this a developer >> that is being paid by Roblox? he's within the organization. >> So, I probably should preface this. So,

55:54 Roblox has actual staff at their company and then they also have developers on the site who I guess kind of are contractors. Uh, I mean, they make games. They they have to sign a contract to to be able to exchange the the Roblox currency into to real life money. Um, so yeah, I mean, he was and but him in particular, >> so he is on the payroll. He was a contractor for Roblox. >> He is getting paychecks from the company >> specifically. Yeah. Because he had toys of his character that were being sold and merchandised by Roblox that were in ads placed on television. You know, these were >> He's a face of it. >> He He was a face of Roblox. >> He was a face of Roblox. Yes. And And it's really sad, too. >> A lot of people don't know why he was

56:39 banned. Um >> what's his name >> here? Should I name him? >> No. >> No. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> He's threatened litigation against >> Yeah. >> This [ __ ] guy is threatening litigation. >> He had a lawsuit against me in Ireland over it. >> And maybe that's the answer to the question of what's his name is. I don't want to name him here because he's already threatening litigation. >> Okay. >> Hold on. How the [ __ ] What? What litigation? >> He he threatened a lot. No, he he created a lawsuit against me in Ireland. Uh like Yeah. The whole lawsuit >> for what?

57:24 >> He says he was blackmailed by by one of these victims, which the victim >> blackmailed >> the victim >> by his victim. What the [ __ ] does that even mean? >> He if you read the lawsuit, it literally confirms he's a pedophile. I mean, that's that's the crazy part about it. But yeah, I mean Yeah. Uh that that's how crazy this stuff is, man. That's that's that's really all I have to say about it. But I Yeah, I was viciously groomed by this predator and I mean he he still goes after and tries to harass me. Um >> so has there been any repercussions? Is this guy just roaming around free? >> Yeah. And he was actually making new Roblox accounts as of 2023 and Roblox didn't care.

58:10 >> Roblox didn't care. >> I was the one who had to blow the whistle on it. I have to keep track of their pedophiles. That That's how crazy this is. >> So, nothing's happened to this guy. >> Nope. >> Nothing has happened. Um, a lot of victims who really deserve justice, ones who dropped out of school because >> Does anybody mention this guy's name? Everyone's afraid they're going to get sued by this guy because Roblox gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> If you give me the name, can I put it out? >> Sure. I mean, could he put it out? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, I'll get I'll give you his full name. Yeah. >> Perfect.

58:56 >> Yeah. I Yeah. I mean, the And you know, all the claims I have against him, I have everything documented. His accounts are still on Discord. Um, I have him sending me when I was a minor. I have him talking about how, you know, uh, asking a, I believe it was either 11 or 12year-old, "Hey, should I be in a relationship that I clearly shouldn't be in?" I have him sending me, you know, just most horrific stuff. Um, so I mean, he if he ever wants to try something at me, uh, Discovery will be very interesting. I I I I will say that. >> I can't believe this [ __ ] guy is still out there. >> Yep. And and just to think, Roblox, rather than sending him the cease and desist, who's still reaccessing the platform, they sent me the cease and

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1:02:08 >> All right, Slip, we're back from the break. Man, I So, your attorney's not going to be in here for this one. He's outside because my attorney's calling him because I and I want my attorney to have full visibility onto who this [ __ ] guy is and the whole story because if I get the cleared hot, which I probably will, he's going to be way more famous than Roblox ever [ __ ] made him. Where is he? Ireland. >> Ireland. >> Mhm. >> I would imagine most Irish people don't like pedophiles. >> This guy's >> Your dad's out there. >> Yeah. He's getting emotional because he said that he had he he has never even heard you mention this fucker's name. >> Yeah. Um

1:02:53 >> we got you, dude. >> I hate these [ __ ] people and I will stop at nothing to [ __ ] get them. >> I [ __ ] hate them. >> It's definitely something that >> he's still doing this [ __ ] >> He He was back on Ro He was back on Roblox in in 2023. I I can't even comprehend the the idea. He was making games again on the platform. And >> And they're aware of this [ __ ] >> I don't know if they're aware of this, but I will say they they allowed him to come back and and make games. And I had to stick my own neck out there to make sure that this guy was gone for good. I mean, like I that that's the thing about it. That's why I'm so

1:03:39 passionate about the stuff I do because I mean it it is something that really hurt me and we we'll talk about it later, but I mean being able to get people arrested was my form of therapy. It was my form of like I I would get someone arrested and then I get an email from a kid and they'd be like, "You got my groomer arrested." There's there is no other form of satisfaction greater than that that was more healing to the abuse that I went through because I know I give anything for someone to do that for me. I could I could not

1:04:25 Sorry. Come here, my friend. >> Come here. >> Appreciate it. >> I would I would give anything for that to happen to me. I know those victims that went through that horrible stuff alongside me would give anything for that to happen. And really what I was trying to figure out in this whole Roblox stuff was why they didn't care. They didn't care about me. They didn't care about any of the victims who suffered horrible horrible abuse. and the current victims that are have been subjected to so so much worse so

1:05:13 much worse like kidnappings. I I'm going to read you some of these stories. Honestly, you would you like to see some of them? >> Yeah, let's let's >> let's take a look at some of these cuz these are just some of the most disgusting things you will ever hear. Let me see. So, there's this kid um his name was Ethan Dallas. You see right here? Um he um on Roblox he wait let me show this photo. This is a better This here is Ethan Dallas. Um he uh while playing Roblox met this piece of [ __ ] pedophile right here. He

1:05:58 had this kid um viciously. I mean, he he had to live with this for from my understanding a long time. Like he he had to suffer this abuse and he had finally come out to his parents about it. And due to all the abuse and this guy, he ended up taking his own life. He he his parents are the first wrongful death lawsuit that has been filed against Roblox. Um they have a wonderful foundation. The first. >> The first. Yeah. >> How many are there? >> I don't know as of this moment, but I I'd assume there's a lot that's going to be coming. I know there's a lot of kids who have taken their own lives because of Roblox. >> What would your estimation be? Tens,

1:06:46 >> hundreds. >> I I'll tell you this, within the this year, so it's What day is it? It is February the 5th, six kids have been missing or found because of Roblox. um that that's being reported. Um I can actually go through these with you. Um let me see. So this here is Thomas Medlin. Um they're currently still searching for him. Innocent kid. I spoke with his dad. Um and he seemed like a wonderful wonderful kid. He was he was very smart. He went missing on, I believe, January 6th. He has been missing ever since. Uh

1:07:33 he took a train um to New York City. His phone last pinged on the Brooklyn Bridge. He told his friends from school that uh he was going to meet someone off of Roblox. >> Holy [ __ ] >> This is one. >> How old is that kid? >> Believe he was 15. I want to say this here was a boy with intellectual disability uh who was um lured off of Roblox um to San Diego um lived in Philadelphia. I don't know if he got to to Philadelphia, but there was a they were trying to look for him. Um he uh he was found thankfully. Um >> where was he found? >> I I'm not exactly sure the exact

1:08:19 location, but he he was found. >> What condition? I I I I I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if they've released the condition or how, but they they found this kid. Um, and he uh he he was lured off of Roblox. These are two sisters in Mexico who were lured off of Roblox. They they were luckily found um very gratefully. Um and they seem to be in good condition, but they were lured off the platform by a predator. And just this week, this week, this

1:09:06 piece of [ __ ] pedophile tried to lure or no, he he drove, get this, 23 hours to pick up these two kids, right? Or I don't know if I have a photo of the to pick up two kids. Um, and he he he abducted them from their home. Georgia State Patrol found him driving in the car that they put out, I guess, a Amber Alert about. um found the two girls from Roblox. >> Holy [ __ ] >> These are only 2026 so far. If we just go off of how January went, that's going to be I think I did it would be 46 kids by the end of the year. And these are only the what is being reported to be Roblox

1:09:52 >> and only in the US. >> Only in the US. Well, there was one in Mexico. Yeah. >> But And that doesn't count all the kids that are exploited. The seven of four [ __ ] Nope. >> And it's going to snowball. Just going to get bigger, bigger, bigger, and bigger. >> Bigger and bigger and bigger. And here, >> how many years were you enduring that kind of abuse? >> Three years. >> Three [ __ ] years. >> Three years of abuse. Um, and it just got progressively worse and worse and worse with time. >> It started at 12. >> Yeah. And and I mean he he was still trying to contact me even after my my suicide attempt. I mean he he was contacting me through Roblox like the

1:10:39 the developer forum thing. I he was doing everything and I I had to send messages to him like I want nothing to do with you anymore. Like that was what I was and he was still contacting me. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I Let me read you one of these cases because I I think really these nobody reads the actual like you hear lawsuit filed, but nobody reads what these lawsuits have. And if I had known one of these lawsuits or anything, I you would take your kids off of this game instantaneously. Okay. Plaintiff is a young girl who was exploited by a known predator through

1:11:25 defendants platform Roblox and Discord. So they're both being sued Roblox and Discord. Defendants unsafe and defectively designed products enabled the Predator to access and groom and victimize Plaintiff. Plaintiff was a 10-year-old girl when she first started playing Roblox. At relevant times, Plank's grandmother had sole custody of Plank. Plank's uh grandmother uh next friend believed that Roblox was safe for kids. Um so all the people involved, they thought Roblox was a safe game. It's advertised as safe. I mean it the marketing is for parents. This game is safe. There's nothing bad on here. Um let me see. While playing Roblox with her cousins in

1:12:10 or about May of 2022, an adult predator initiated contact with Plaintiff, a then 11-year-old through Roblox's chat function. The Predator falsely claimed to be a 13-year-old boy, a misrepresentation facilitated by Roblox's lack of age identity um verification and exploited her age and vulnerability to build a false emotional connection with them. The predator was in fact a 26-year-old man who was listed on the public offender registry following a conviction for online solicitation of a minor at time he initiated contact through uh throughout the relevant period. The predator was on po probation. >> Holy [ __ ] The Predator used Roblox's communication features to groom Plankif

1:12:57 and promptly directed her to Discord where he instructed Plaintiff on how to

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