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0:00 Okay, so it seems that we have some more Cinder news, which I didn't think I'd be uh kind of talking about uh for a while. But hey, you know, it seems like she's back in the loose due to a new kind of thing that has come out where the parapus have been pretty uh unhappy with how uh you know, some promotions have gone forwards which could have included Cinder. And obviously, if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about VCards. Now, obviously, this is a TCG game set up by Gamer Subs, the great company Gamer Subs. He's cozy by the way. Uh, obviously, you know, uh, VCards have been around for quite a bit now, and they obviously involve a lot of VTubers. VTubers collaborate with them. They have their own little cards and stuff, and they legally use them almost like any other TCG. It's like using a VTuber as a Pokémon. Like, let's be real. And obviously, uh, you know, Cinder was pretty heavily involved in
0:45 that before a lot of the kind of stuff happened and she went on hiatus. Now, obviously, as we know, Cinder has not said anything else uh since the apology and is still on hiatus. And it seems like there's a post from the Pyrop Center essentially talking about Cinder not being involved in the VCard or the latest VCard drop as there was a new one recently. They say, "Pyrups, I had prepared this message in case Cinder wasn't a part of the new vCard pack. Uh but I'm already seeing fear and frustration being voiced sometimes uh in ways that risk harm. Uh, I understand how painful it is to see her absent, but before we react, I want to offer perspective and peace. VCard is a fast growing new TCG made up of multiple VTubers and CC communities. And Gamersups has tons of creators that they
1:32 work with. Uh, in TCGs, whenever a new version or pack comes out, there will always be new stuff that comes with it. But that also means that stuff from previous packs get rotated out. The reason is uh to maintain, balance, and create a sustainable collective ecosystem. uh making previous cards or even specific items, fields, monsters, etc. even more valuable and rare. That said, it's possible Cinder won't be the only person that gets swapped out. It's never personal. It's logistical and thematic, which obviously I do think is true. I think that, you know, obviously there is a case of they need to just kind of switch out some of the YouTubers sometimes due to the fact of it just, you know, you could you want to add a little bit more value to some of the cards maybe and you don't want to do them too much else could look like too much. Uh again, that is totally a valid reason, but I also do think it is just mainly due to the fact that she's on
2:18 hiatus. You know, you can like what she did, you can hate what she did, uh you know, with that whole drama stuff, you know, but at the end of the day, she is still on hiatus and it's kind of, you know, impossible to ignore that. So, again, it doesn't really make any sense why she'd be featured on these cards if she's kind of an inactive VTuber at this point. I know obviously it sucks for a lot of Cinder fans to hear that and it sucks that you know she isn't in the vcards this time but at the same time you know I think it is one of these cases where you know she's an inactive VTuber and I think a lot of people just don't really understand that and you know although she hasn't really made I I mean obviously she has just kind of disappeared I don't think she made an actual uh kind of thing saying that she was going on an official hiatus or anything she just kind of left. Uh so again, maybe that's why some people can't really come to terms with it. But
3:04 yeah, it is one of these things where I think Gamer Subs obviously don't want to work uh on something where a kind of person isn't active uh and stuff like that. Now, if Cinder was to come back, I'm sure Gamers will probably add her back in and she'll be on the next available drop. And I think that is kind of the case with this one. Uh obviously, you know, Gamersups have been a kind of company that don't really judge people. You know, doesn't matter what they've done. it doesn't matter what happens, you know, they never really get rid of everybody. We've, you know, had that situation with the Kosha situation where people were trying to attack her as sponsors and obviously they didn't listen. They don't really care. Uh, again, they they're a really based company. I'm just going to say that they're really cool. Uh, so obviously I feel like they would be open to working with her. Also, due to the fact that Cinder is still a co-owner or partial owner of Gamers and say there are three
3:52 elements remaining to be revealed. Cinder could either be uh be either of those. even grass. Yes. Or like Pokemon maybe should be a part of a new element if they decided to do that. Uh Pokemon originally did not start with steel, dark or fairy type cards. And we've already seen new innovation from vcards uh through the idea of field cards. They say uh the truth is we lose either way. If Cind is included, uh detractors will cry foul. If she's not, we feel the sting of exclusion. Unless Vcars chooses transparency and it's possible uh they may not uh we won't know the full reasoning if she is or isn't included this time around which yeah I mean again I think it's one of these things where I I don't think it's like you feel the sting of exclusion. I think you know
4:37 that's been a very obvious part uh for a very long time now. You know Cinder isn't here. She's inactive. She doesn't make videos. She doesn't post anything. she's gone on hiatus due to a lot of the stuff that's gone on, which means she probably won't be featured in some big promotions. I don't think, you know, there's like some sting of exclusion. I think it is mainly due to the fact that she's just not there. You know, obviously they say, but this uh this much is true. A TCG is iterative, not definitive. A mission isn't deletion. Inclusion is a redemption. Each pack is a chapter, not a verdict. Uh if Cinder is rotated out, it may be for balance. If she's rotated in, it may be for profit. Profit isn't shameful. Uh fans of new creators that get uh included for the first time will get excited and buy
5:23 packs. And so so would we. For Cinder, uh neither opt neither option proves guilty or innocence. Game of has never been like that. Cinder is still partial owner after all. Uh so I ask you, fellow parapods, hold your flames steady. Don't burn too hot. Don't lash out even if provoked. uh we carry her warmth from not her ashes which yeah obviously they go into like a big long speech uh at the end there. Now the powerup center obviously they've been very vocal about the stuff that went on with Charlene and stuff which I really appreciated and obviously they uh you know were very uh vocal about that which I think is great and I think you know they do provide a positive space for a lot of the uh good power puffs uh in the space that just want to kind of move on and you know kind of do some stuff and I think that's totally fine. I think, you know, it's fine to want to uh, you know, still like
6:11 Cinder but not really condone some of the actions that she's done. I think that's totally, you know, fine. But obviously, that is up to you and to a lot of people uh to decide uh themselves. But also, I think what another thing is that people might get a little bit mad at is uh uh Spite got some V cards uh in this rotation. So, I feel like there's probably going to be a couple of angry uh pirate pups there. Uh, obviously due to the fact of I've seen a lot of hatred towards Spit's way, obviously due to her making the whole post saying that, you know, they were copying stuff off of her uh and things like that and she was involved in the whole uh, you know, Cinder drama and then she gained a massive amount of viewerships uh, viewership, sorry, uh, from a lot of the uh, stuff that went on and now people were kind of mad at her
6:56 uh, which I just don't really get to be honest. You know, just get that bag. Uh, obviously a lot of people in the comments as well are saying to be fair, Lily did say when all that happened that Gamers was working on a way to deal with Cinder being a part of the company. They said just because Cinder isn't in the new wave doesn't mean she won't be in the future waves, which yeah, I mean, you know, she could be in the future waves. Again, it's just uh if uh, you know, Gamers decide to move forwards with that, we already know, for example, with Gamer Subs, uh, they usually have a big banner. Uh there was one at TwitchCon. I think it was it was TwitchCon and obviously they have like Shily, people like that up on there, but then they actually removed Cinder's picture from the banner obviously because they don't really want to associate with her at this time. But again, you know, she is still a part of Gamer Sub. She is still in Gamer Sub. So again, we might be able to see uh you
7:42 know, her coming back to a VCard if she decides to come back or when she decides to come back. I don't know. It's probably an if. Uh but again, it's interesting. Also, there's some other stuff as well. obviously including the V Showjo stuff. Uh apparently someone under the name of Cinder actually donated uh $6,666 uh now. Obviously, you know, pretty much everybody can write whatever name they want there. So, we're unsure on whether this is actually Cinder or not, but obviously a lot of people have been freaking out over this over the past couple of days. Obviously, this has got 1.7 million views here. Now, obviously, if it is sender, I think that's great. I mean, she's, you know, providing money for a charity, for a good ch uh for a good cause. Now, obviously, you know, she has literally donated money, didn't speak about it at all, and just kind of uh, you know, there is nothing else to
8:27 that. So, I think honestly that's one of the best ways to go about it. She's done it well there. I mean, you know, if she was to go and make a post or maybe say she's coming back at the same time as donating this money, I think that would have been quite bad cuz obviously that would be promoting her comeback, which I just think uh is bad. But, she didn't do that, which I think is great. And I think that just donating and then leaving obviously is probably one of the best courses of action. shows that she genuinely cares about the Iron Mouse situation uh enough to donate. So again, you know, that you know is the case, but also as I said, it could also just be someone else uh writing a different name and uh you know, stealing the username and just pretending to be Cinder. But obviously that is quite a large amount of money to be uh donating, pretending to be Cinder. I mean, I don't really know who has that kind of money uh for a joke like that. But hey, maybe there is
9:13 someone out there that does have $6,666. But either way, that is still a very large amount of money going to uh the immune deficiency foundation, which is great. Uh and you know, obviously that is always welcome uh no matter who it's from, you know, even if it is uh Cinder. So again, that is pretty much all of the news to do that kind of stuff. I thought it was kind of interesting to see some of these posts obviously with the whole TCG stuff because again, you know, I feel like at the moment because Cinder is an inactive VTuber, she won't be included in many partnerships, whether it's VCards, whether it's whatever, you know, it's pretty much anything uh that she was involved in or any kind of drops. She probably won't be uh for the uh you know, time being until or if you know she does come back. But yeah, I mean, that was pretty much all the update that I wanted to give you guys.
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