0:07 Oh, great ladies. Finally, this is our occasion to speak with Melanie Reinhardt about Karl Claw and Kelly Hunter. These two ladies are ladies, the pioneers of Kharlo and Khlo is hidden and um I'm so glad that these two ladies Melanie for a long time and Kelly as well are plunging into it, finding ways to unlock the mystery of this specific woman um that is an asteroid. in in the sky in the sand tower. So um I
0:54 first will give the word to say welcome to Melanie. Hello. What a pleasure to be here with you all focusing on one of my favorite themes too. Um, you know, for me there is there is something eternally silent and mysterious about Chari and that's reflected in the fact that there's only a little bit of information about her in the usual sources in Greek mythology. So, we don't have, you know, pages and pages of stories about her and lots of information and all that. And that seems significant to me. It's
1:41 almost like there's a space there for us each to enter with our own imagination. M um and if I may just give a personal example, you know, it was actually only last week that I realized that when I signed the contract to write my book Chiron and the healing journey. So that was quite a while before Harry Cllo was discovered. But actually character was sitting on my son by transit on on that during that very time. And so the whole
2:27 time I was writing it was working its way through. She was working it her way through all of the all of the personal planets in in my own horoscope. I couldn't believe it when I saw that. It was wonderful. I also Yeah. And it's, you know, that's been like hidden from me all this time. I had I didn't know about her when I was doing that writing. Obviously, she hadn't been discovered yet. And yet, I have to say that I I did feel the very strong presence of something that I couldn't name or couldn't describe. um that was supporting me and sometimes inspiring me when I did that work huge
3:13 work of writing the Chiron book. Um so in the 20th century there was only three conjunctions of Chiron and Sherikllo and that was in 1949. And actually both Kelly and myself were born very very near one of the conjunction points and so not surprising that we found each other as friends and that we've for a long time been exchanging thoughts and material about karlo. That's so wonderful.
4:00 But what I also found so interesting was that the previous conjunction of Chiron and Currylo happened there was actually a whole series of them over quite a few years. So from 1710 to 1744 they were in orb of conjunction the whole way through that period and there were several exact conjunctions. What I then realized was into the second decade of the following century. Oh no I'm sorry I'm getting
4:45 getting mixed up. So what was meaningful for me about that was the fact that in 1685 my two most favorite classical music composers were both born about a month apart from each other which is Bach and Handel two of the absolute greatest masters of that period of classical music. And so when all of these conjunctions happened in the following century, both of them were in their prime creating an incredible outp output of astounding music that is still appreciated today, you know, and the
5:31 volume of their output was just enormous. They you know like only recently discovered handle wrote 52 operas and then canartas and ortoriios and instrumental pieces you know if you check either of them on Wikipedia with their list of compositions you won't believe it and that all happened in a relatively short space of time when Chiron and Karl were conjunct and the conjunctions actually moved quite far. They began in Aquarius and moved all the way through to the sign of Cancer. So half the zodiac was getting these conjunctions. In 1949 it was just
6:17 only in Sagittarius three times. But there the conjunctions kind of migrated through half the zodiac. I also find very meaningful where she is right now because she's in 22 plus of the sign of Aquarius. So the two planets that associate with Aquarius are Saturn, that's the traditional ruler, and Uranus, the so-called modern ruler. And of course in the sky they represent together a most important threshold. Saturn is the last planet easily visible with the naked eye and
7:06 Uranus was the first one to be discovered with maths and technology. So it's almost like just in those small facts uh is symbolized a quantum leap in consciousness that has a lot to do with the very strong opposites that they represent. Saturn and Uranus. Saturn is representing what has already been there for a while. And so the establishment or tradition what is familiar can even refer to ancestry and so forth. And then Uranus comes
7:52 uh as a a great disruptor and awakener and can turn things upside down but has a very fast lightning kind of feel to it. And it's as if you just get flashes out of nowhere and your mind goes ping and things open up and you you can't unsee something that you've seen. So it's it's a very thrilling kind of energy where whereas Saturn's energy is more earthy and more stable and likes to build structures whereas Uranus likes to free us from structures. So it's a tremendous coming together of edges
8:37 there and that tension is implicit in the sign of Aquarius always and yet it's both Charlo and also her husband Chiron they connect in with those two Jericho in particular she doesn't like many of the centators cross over any of the other orbits of the other centaurs. It's like she goes around quietly in between Saturn and Uranus. And I think of that because her name means spinning grace. So I think of weaving and spinning. So I think of her moving quietly between the opposites and not having to go over
9:24 either of those orbits to make a point or something like that, but just nestling in there. So I think it's a very precious energy that teaches us a lot about what goes on in our own minds because um and that includes the collective mind with all the technology and the social media and all the rest of it. You know, we're bombarded day and night with all kinds of mental stuff. Some of which is pretty toxic, other of which is very inspiring. But I I sort of think of Sherlo going between Saturn and Uranus almost sweeping that space clean, you know, opening up the space in mind and heart.
10:10 What a nice picture you make, Melanie. And what an you unstoppable uh threats of knowledge coming through. I also want to give Kelly some we are also together with Kelly. We we see one by one our our only the person who speaks. So that's we need to change bit. Yes, please. Did we want a song to Yes. I was just going to say where's the song? Bring on the song. Yeah. I I I I wanted a short introduction, but then you you in your enthusiastic. You started and it's fantastic what you speak, Melanie. Wonderful. I I always go on too long.
10:59 It's Please, please Suzanne, can you sing a song? I sang a song and it's called uh water being cherry glow and uh it comes into me because the story of Melanie uh about uh [Music] um uh to stay in your interpace and to uh the source to follow your water of the source that's what about this song uh okay water Being cherry glow water being cherry glow. I invite you come play with me in the inter spaces. I stay at my source close to my
11:46 nourishment. Welcome are you to the paradise of pleasures. Flow with me. Follow the water current at the source. I sh in a refreshing splash of water. The world dissol dissolves in mystery. I invite you drink from the source. Flow with me in a play of light. Here we create peace and wellbeing. Water being cherry glow. Water being cherry glow. H I want to introduce to you Susan from the fort. She sings the poems I have
12:32 written about Kanlo and together we make dances to to to make the atmospheres of the frequencies to get into it now. Yes, please come. Oh, I'm so glad you sang that song. Um, you know, I and Melanie introduced me to you because there was some encounters and I have appreciated the work of of you two ladies so much in the experiential mode which I think these centur kind of evoke especially Chiron and Characllo. And as Melanie said, we both have the con were born during the year of the conjunction of Chiron and Characllo. And I was born in December of
13:19 1949. And I have I have them um uh two or three degrees apart conjunct my son. So when Chiron was discovered, that was so much helpful to me in explaining so much about myself and my um uh I don't know what we call it unconventional way of approaching life and the discovery of Characo. I'm not even sure when I heard about this, but since it's also conjunct my son, it added a whole another layer. And I love the the the conjunction is, you know, to me the masculine and feminine uh as uh
14:06 frequencies of healing and that they work together and I do a lot of mythology as we all do actually and I wrote a story about Characo from some source I found somewhere and I can't find it again. Melanie is much better on sources, but I I really don't, you know, I'm kind of tired of academic footnotes, so I I don't even do them anymore. So, anyway, maybe this is, you know, as Melanie was saying, my own my own story, my own imagination, my own mystery relationship with Characo um that that I wrote. And I I just want to uh share some slides with you um to
14:53 help tell this story with imagery. I find images to be really important. And uh let's see what I have here. So here is um so here is an image that an artist friend of mine uh did which is charcoll. And so my story is what I heard about Characco being a water nymph and living in the hills and valleys and she would flow with the water. And that's why I love that song you sang because that poem and that evocation of the space and the fluidity that uh and nourishment uh
15:41 as Characo brings to us. So here she is. She's in the river and she she almost merges with the water. And part of the story I read was that she and Characllo saw each other. And no matter if she like almost disappeared in the water, he could always see her. And she thought he was an incredibly noble. And she would see him with his students and in the in the woods and the hills. And so they ended up falling in love and it's a love story. And so uh in order to be with him and let me just read that a little bit of my story, whatever I did with it. Um um well maybe I
16:29 won't. It was about Taraklo like just loving being merged with the water and with the water and in the water and all of the different nuances of water, the sounds of water, the way it moved around rocks and in the little uh pools and then would rush and so and all the creatures in there. And so um that is part of her nature. And when she and Chiron, you know, kind of found their soul connection, uh, she shapeshifted from being a half fish halfwoman to being a half horse halfwoman. And that's where I get
17:18 my my kind of keyword for um Charaklo being whatever form best serves love. And that has something to do with her capacity to shape the energy to hold the best outcome to hold the space for the healing for the best outcome. Um, uh, so I'm not sure what you're seeing. So, um, I, uh, are you seeing just the image or are you seeing my whole screen? Just the image. Oh, good. Okay. So, here
18:05 is, uh, is Charlo. And that story is on my website if you're interested in reading it. Um, and then I think this brought charcoal to my attention more particularly. So, in the uh Jet Propulsion Laboratory website that has all of the small bodies and describes, you know, their their discovery and gives their dates for discovery, which is very helpful. Um, this is how they summarize Characo. Sometimes described as a sea nymph, sometimes as a female centaur. was the wife of Chiron. Together they are said to have had as many as five children. And she is also sometimes said to have been the mother of Tyresius, the famous seer, the famous
18:52 blind seer in in mythology. So that is probably where I got that, you know, idea about the sea nymph or the river nymph, I think, is is more true. Um but anyway so in 2013 Chiron Kacharo was found to have two rings. She was oulted by some body and they were so surprised that such a small body had a ring very very thin ring like a halo and then they found two. So, she has this double halo, which is what you see in the in uh I added that starry halo to a painting I did when I moved back from the Virgin Islands and the water to Vermont and the
19:39 hills and valleys. And I thought at first that this this painting was series, but then I realized it was Characo. when I was painting my transition from the water nymph to the centaur cuz I am a Sagittarius. So anyway, um Melanie and I got in touch around this time when they announced those two rings and we got into a lot of discussions halos and lassos and rings and and such. But they describe Did you want to say something, Melanie? Oh, I just thought of the image of wedding rings. Yes. Because the following year they also thought that Chiron had rings as
20:26 well. And since then more research has been done. So now they're not calling them rings, but an even more evocative phrase to describe a process of matter in transformation. met it was a ph a phrase like that that I found somewhere on a website. Oh wow. I like that a lot. And that's so they Yeah. So they may become rings or they may not but they're still you know they're in a process of transformation. I mean wow. So there's like shimmery dust shimmer. Exact fairy dust. Yes. And it a fairy dust. And it
21:12 is. So, I I really related to this because for years I've been feeling like I have like a ring around my head that is picking up frequencies. Well, I got to thinking about the double ring and how those they they play off each other and there is a ringing and it could be different frequencies, different octaves, you know, it's like singing bowls that you you you know, you play together and so when I'm in a quiet space, I can always hear this energy. Wow. Um, so the rings really intrigued me and also represent that she is the holder of sacred healing space and spacious
21:58 consciousness. One of my favorite words is spacious and she has a a presence of knowledge in the moment whatever is going on now. And Chiron is like that too. Chiron wants to align spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. So it's in the moment we are aligned and magic can happen and and Charaklo has her own essence of of that of that in the moment uh picking up on the energy. And I I think also just following from what you've just said, Kelly, the the notion of something being invisible seems to be
22:44 important. M so you know for an invisible dimension of healing. So yes for example anybody who has had a craniosacral session for example you know I remember the first one I had I thought wow she didn't do anything she was just holding the back of my neck or holding my feet or something like that and absolute stillness. And in that stillness the body Mhm. has the space, there's your word, space, the space to come back into its own alignment. Or, you know, same same with hands-on healing or spiritual healing at distance. It's not visible, but there's
23:30 no doubt that something very powerful is happening. Yes, that distance healing, that is a a really good point. Um, I've been uh studying and practicing ancient Vadic mantras that are like um uh frequency uh um tools. It's like spiritual frequencies and um the vibration of those frequencies is very healing and they're different ones for different things but you can also send them through the field and these have been very much yeah very much um helping me and I think as part of my my charcoll experience. So the the rings really intrigued me that got me more interested
24:16 in charlow. Great. Great. Wonderful. Uh there's from your stud from your story of the website about Khlo um seeing Hyum and thinking she's invisible. Uh I made I made a song and poem and Sisan is going to sing it. Oh, good. Great. Water, liquid, healing, seducing, softening, melting, polishing, clean, unseen, waiting until the moment I arise. I will be
25:04 waiting till my life take wings. When I am seen and life touches me with a narrow of light, I go for it to unfold the promise of my existence. I liberate from the ordinary. Out of my habits I break in a sheltered field. I linger in tune. I will be with the beat of my heart. about those moments that um we get caught up um by that light struck by light struck by Iran and struck by the happening
25:52 struck by uh co um that's there is an proposition to alter to leave behind what was our habit it. And um it is like the moment that Kyum with his eyes saw this nymph in the water which was in invisible. It's uh she could not stay in the position she was. She has to transform and we are in the big transforming years. Absolutely. Can you sing it once again? Yes.
26:40 Water liquid healing seducing softening melting polishing clean. Unseen waiting until the moment I arise. I will be waiting till my life take wings. When I am seen and life touches me with a narrow of light, I go for it. To unfold the promise of my existence, I liberate from the ordinary. Out of my habits, I break in a sheltered field. I linger in tune. I will be with the beat of my heart.
27:30 Oh, that brings tears to my eyes. That has Yeah, I think this is KL telling us uh she's midwife of the transformation and we need Yes. Oh yes, we need to wait for the moment that it hits us with light and we cannot do else than to leave our habit behind and and and exist in the silence. Just you know just be in the silence of that of that energy shifting and frequency enlightening. Yes. And I I want to name what we all know
28:16 the three the four of us here is that we are recording this during the full moon that Charaklo is exactly squaring from 22 Aquarius to 22 sun with Uranus nearby and uh 22 Scorpio the full moon and we're just minutes away at this like no we're in it. This is it. Yeah, we're we're right in it. So it is it hopefully we are channeling you know the energy and um let me share the next slide here which helps you place your charcoal if you don't know where it is people who are listening.
29:02 uh it has a fairly stable uh movement uh but it does you know come closer and be farther like Chiron does. So, you know, just check yours out because it can be uh very helpful to uh as we are going through this major transition um this like a a meta rings, you know, are we going to be a ring or are we going to be, you know, what are we going to be when we come out of this? It's like, you know, what does the butterfly know when it's like kind of dissolving in there? So um and this is the discovery chart of Characo which also absolutely fascinating and
29:48 exquisite. Um so you see look at this uh so much Aquarian energy. So Charlo is at 22 now. So, she's coming very soon into a conjunction of the sun with her discovery point, which I'm not quite sure what that means, but I guess we will find out. It's it's it's certainly part of um you know, kind of working with the Aquarian energy with Pluto now here also starting to move through all of these planets. I think charcoal is becoming more more energetically present with us, you know, dancing with us, inviting us into that watery flow and the light. So,
30:34 um, so there's Characo over there at six Leo right next to Black Moon. You you don't share with us, you share with yourself, I think. Oh, dear. Oh, I'm not sharing anymore. So, sorry. Okay. Um, let me get back to that. Okay. So, now you can see it. Yes. Oh, good. There we are. Okay. So, there there's where you can find your tarlo. And here is the chart with that amazing Aquarian stellium and exact conjunction at 5° 5° of Jupiter and Uranus hard you know certainly um meaning that transformation to the
31:19 higher mind energy is a higher it's a higher frequency um and we've got uh series there too which I think is really meaningful in terms of the earth energy and this the space of the earth, the frequency of the earth and Mercury and Venus here and then the sun. So, Characllo I was saying is at six degrees of Leo right next to black moon which amplifies or enhances or deepens the the mystery of the divine feminine in in Charaklo's essence. And you see here we have um the fire of charcollo and black moon. We have the fire of Saturn in Aries which it's just
32:07 about to go into. And we have the fire of Pluto and Sagittarius. So that's a grand triangle. And we have the moon in Gemini, Mars in Libra, and all of these Aquarian planets to give us a grand trine in air. So there the fire and air are intersecting to make this beautiful six-pointed star that is a very rare dynamic in an astrology chart. And so uh it's also got quite a lot of beautiful energies you know between the Sagittarius and the Aquarius and the harmonizing of the fire and the air and it does not have much earth or
32:54 water. Uh however so so uh let's see so this shows the triangle a little better simplifies the chart a little bit and uh here it also is showing uh the whole six-pointed star going around. Uh so there's that. Uh, I want to point out also that here's the nodes of the moon at the end of Pisces and the end of Virgo, but reversed from where they are now. So, it's still picking up on the energy of where we are now as Saturn is changing sign. And were you saying something Melanie to us earlier about the the
33:42 Pisces Aries cusp where that conjunction before? Yes. A couple of things come to mind. Uh so in 1724 and 1725 uh Chiron and Sharlo were moving from Pisces into Aries. So in other words making exactly the same emphasis as we see all through 2025 which is amazing. So I I had another thought about the chart which is that so there's this almost unbelievably perfect six-pointed
34:30 star that's the main pattern and then and it's in the elements of air and fire. So the volatile upward moving elements and then there's only one planet in earth and only one in water and so the water is Chiron in Scorpio and the earth is Neptune in Capricorn. So yeah, let me bring that chart up again. Okay. Right. Uhhuh. So that would be called in astrology when there's only one of something in a particular condition. It's often called a singleton. So here there are two
35:17 singletons, Neptune and Chiron. And it's as if they're a bit outside of the main pattern of the six-pointed star. And it suddenly occurred to me that well, first of all, singletons are not, you know, weak positions. I'm not seeing Neptune. I Where'd Neptune go? Oh, there. Oh, I'm trying to point out with my cursor. It's in the edge of the fifth house here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It just gets overwhelmed by the Yes. the Yeah. Yeah. by all the Aquarius. Yeah. So if there is a singleton, it's not the case that therefore that planet is in a weak
36:04 position because it's the only one in that element. It's almost the reverse. It's super strong because it's the only one. So here there are two singletons in the kind of downwardflowing energies of earth and water. M so I suddenly thought, wow, we're heading more and more into the times of air and fire. Pluto in air, Uranus will soon be in air and uh as well as well as Neptune being in fire. So all the outer planets will change into air and fire and that's a lot of very upward moving stimulating kind of energy. So I suddenly felt that that
36:50 this chart of Jericho was kind of presenting us with some guidance about where to turn when the air and fire dimensions get all too much and there's too much mental activity, too much excitement, too much heat, too much anger, too much of too much, you know. And then earth and water being that it's Chiron and Neptune have a real feeling of stillness and quiet and seem to kind of balance out or provide a holding space for all of this air and fire. And it's on a very subtle level. Very subtle level. Yes. Exactly.
37:38 So it's an inner space. is inner space like the the spaciousness in that song. Um yeah, let me show this as well. Um uh oh dear, there it is. So this is another dynamic in this chart which involves uh Chiron in Scorpio and it becomes a grand grand cross to activate and use and apply perhaps the that beautiful six-pointed star that this is this huge you know stellar energy and squaring charlow. I
38:26 love that because I I think the squares between say aspects of what we could call the divine feminine and the divine masculine in their healing potentialities. They're they're working together. They're sparking off each other. And that is the the positive side of squares. If you take it on, you've got to take it on though. Otherwise, otherwise it gets pretty challenging. And this is the Scorpio, the depth, you know, and charcoal black moon expression from the soul essence. And then we have this is a very appropriate asteroid in the mix, Juno,
39:13 the goddess of marriage. um which is interfacing with charcoal and Chiron. And again, as you said, Melanie, the the almost perfect aspects the there there's the here's the four, here's the six, here's the two. They're very closely aligned. And then they pull in especially the early planets in Aquarius especially that Jupiter Uranus conjunction at five you know which is also part of the uh the uh air triangle as charlo and the black moon are part of the fire triangle the inspirational aspect and this is so higher mind you
39:58 know this is so you know kind of not our usual mind. You know, this is this is taking it to uh that more of that spiritual space that brings in energy from other levels, other dimensions um and other frequencies uh and applying them to the earth energy here and to our level of perception um which again is on a pretty high frequency in this chart. So partnerships, you know, that that bring together a healing flow and uh really sustain the the uh I don't want to call it aspiration. I want to call it Yeah. the essence of of what Characllo brings
40:47 when we engage. Wow. Great Melanie of great Cali great spoken about the the um the squares how much they can support to to grow. It's like stairs you can squares we can we we can grow there's another song this is getting very activated by Pluto coming in. So this this is a very activated space and let's remember that Charara Clo is at 22 Aquarius as we speak. Yes. Yes. and uh that that you maybe have a a good way of uh balancing like like in um a swing.
41:36 [Laughter] I I found on the Minoan so Mowan museum in in Iraq a goddess of the Mowan is this 1400600 BC and she swings to keep heaven and earth in a harmony. Tell us her name again. She has no name because we know had no had no writing. So it's all without names. I love you. Wow. She is she's swinging and I thought Khiklo is swinging to keep heaven and earth sun uh ga and moon
42:23 to keep keep the essences in in good um equilibrium. Um yes and that is what it kiclo gives with the holding uh holding space that um she what's very deeply moved me is that she in every circumstance in barism in mount pilon um she has the ability to stay in a fine essence And this is a quality if which um can help us every day
43:09 um to know that whatever happens in the surrounding you don't need to say I I I don't deal with it but that you are with it standing with it but keep the fine essence uh in the rings uh holding the space. Oh, is there another song you want to sing? Yes, the song Cherry Close Welcome. It's about also uh inside I keep safe and sound. Yes. Cherry close. Welcome my court. I am preparing. I am holding sacred space
43:54 which I fill with fragrant blossom. Search a plot with a song. They mark the boundary of the heavens in their universe. Inside I keep safe and sound. Surrounded by nature clean. Fine vibrations are stirring my star chamber. Mystery takes me along. Brings me to sensual knowledge. Love awakens me in a temple where we unite. He always watch over us. He always watch over us.
44:42 Beautiful. Why I wanted you to sing this song? Um to take care of the fine vibrations and to hold my to hold in those rings of uh uh sacred space and listen to the fine vibrations uh in and around me and also to be conscious that we prepare our cord. Yeah. uh that we as as human to take care of that take care of our cord that um within we are connected with fine vibrations
45:28 and thereby we um we c can give healing to on concert like hyon you only can give healing if you if you have the nice v vibrations inside and and it radiates out like Haron showed us. And in these times it it is so urgent that each of us take the silence and invite ourselves in a sort tender tender way where we can open our our uh the whole of us open.
46:15 For me it was quite magic. Uh when when I heard about Kharlo also co started it was the first time in my life that everybody keep distance in Holland. So it was the first time we got acknowledged that we have an aura. Oh suddenly everybody matters that well distance matters and before that it was not. So everybody could stand next to me without and now suddenly there was a kind of courtesy and well so with co I thanked Karlo for holding space that I could walk around and u people have consideration of their own aura. Well,
47:02 um, yeah, for us it is it is that we have an aura, but for for not all my neighbors and certainly all my neighbors had an aura and I thanked I said thank you for giving this information of holding space to all people and not only in Holland everywhere in the world suddenly which was um it's enormous richness when We allow uh the consciousness that we have an an interpace in between and Khan
47:47 uh I think she learns me very much about the world in between in and that I take that serious for myself and for other people as well. Yeah. Here's that sacred geometry form where you take two circles like the two halos of Characllo and you overlap them so they're each touching the other's center and then there's that shared space in between that becomes that sacred shared space and that's the vesica pisses. Yeah. And and it needs to get that serious to to for all the people not only for the
48:34 mystical people who believe in the unseen world and and that we are together in this 10 transition years and the importance for me uh the role that Harlo plays uh and like today um uh healing and courtesy and softness and um finetuning finetuning in music but also finetuning in medicine. Um this is what uh yeah she's bringing us oh frequency
49:21 healing. Yes speaking of Yes. Yeah. And and we need to invite it into our own Yes. own being to have this those fine frequencies. Yeah. That's what frequencies are you beaming out. Yes. Well, there's much more to tell together. I think this uh we are endlessly. But this is still a song you want to sing. Tender. So tender. Yeah. Tender, so tender, cherry glow. Tender cherry
50:08 glow. Tender, so tender. Waiting. I have the courage and time to surrender. What was I leave behind? In sacred space I abide. The stars strengthen me. In the interchange, tender weights hidden. I leave my habits behind. Carefully I endure my time until I'm awake in my completion. It will be gratifying. I am prepared to
50:57 alter. I am prepared to alter. [Music] is enduring. Um this this word endure endure enduring in Dutch it is not so nice word but in English I can handle it but um in in German you have got beautiful and um enduring is also that you are able to to to be in in a square
51:44 and like the sun, the moon and but that you can stand it and um make it from another value, bring it to another value. And this is also a quality from which uh it was not a word in my in my normal speech and then German is uh for so many people on the planet. Um it is it is the door to peace I think.
52:30 explain that. Could you explain that word a little more? Um, Klo is married with a man who is ill. If I'm I'm ill myself, I can handle it. I have my ankle. Um but if if somebody else is having pain, it is very difficult to stand next to it. You want to help, you want to do something. Come, can I do something? And it only ask that you stand there and um and not to make it sweeter, easier, but that you stand there and be with it.
53:19 And uh so [Music] uh not not that you help or do something. It's not required. And if you can be married with a man who is wounded for so long time it is not overnight and you are both healers. [Music] Um, how does you carry how carry I my comfort? How uh not oversteelping the other person with my help but be with and stand it stand it and and feel the pain and not want to push it away. It is not
54:05 there. Not to hide it. to accept that the pain is there and there is in all of us is pain somewhere one way or the other. But uh not to say that it is right to have pain, but uh it is not right that everybody has trauma. But if there is trauma that you can stand it and endure to endure it. Um holding space and stay connected with the finest and the the deeper essence. uh that magic we the world needs, we
54:52 need I need and I'm so glad that Khlo uh is opening this up. [Music] Uh yeah to to endure like we we spoken we are we we work all hard to to study to to get divine essence to but we are are solo living in in a working very hard alone to um and we endure because uh we know the how how much softening it can bring into the world
55:41 and that's why we that's why I I'm so glad you two ladies have opened for me up because um this this finess um I need the world meet and I'm very grateful for you both. Uh I made dances for every astrological sign after I've spoken with Melanie somewhere in 21 or 20 that was in a conference call. I was with Melanie and I'm I'm not an astrologer. So I wrote for every every sign. So in every sign I wrote text and
56:27 then after I made for every astrological sign a dance and a poem and um then you forget a little bit. But one of the poems Suzan has taken on and that is and last year that was Aquarius in Aquarius. It's not in the song at all but uh it it's carrying uh this richness. Yeah.
57:20 Thanks to all who had brought me here and watch over me. Time to be silent. Liberate entanglements waiting and esteeming in a new air time. Habits evaporate. They dissolve in the current release a new world. Time for awakening my senses with joyful courage I reconcile. Open to what awaits. Curious what is to
58:05 come. In a new air time, habits evaporate. They dissolve in the current. Release a new world. Time for reflection. Honoring my senses with joyful courage. I reconcile. I reconcile. [Music] We ask much of your voice. So beautiful. So beautiful. Thank you. That's a beautiful way to end. Yes. I want to thank you ladies for all your work and please keep going and
58:54 uh I hope we will meet again maybe once again about clone she has a birthday next year you know unfortunately but let's it evolve and let uh the richness uh be available for more people yeah a amen to that. Mhm. Yes. [Music] Grateful. So, thank you Melanie. Thank you Kelly, thank you Susan. Thank you Anukica. Thank you Anukica. And under it I will write your websites and I will post it when it is so far. So
59:40 great. I'm going to stop. Thank you very much.
