0:00 [Music] it's funny uh having you over to the house Deborah and first thing you do is ask me you know what kind of water we working with I was like I love that cuz I'm a water fanatic and you're like oh have you heard about this hydrogen water bottle I'm like oh that's the one I have right here and you're like I know this is going to sound crazy but I drink this stuff called deteran depleted water I'm like I love you already you're telling all my secrets I don't tell people this birs of a Feather well now you know how to explain it in very simple terms thank you for that that was years to explain why I drink that water to people so it's a worthy conversation as a double Scorpio that the water element which is what we're beginning with how auspicious the water element is all about we enter the day with water think of how you wake up in the morning
0:46 take a shower you brush your teeth you have a cup of tea cup of coffee you do your prayers you do your meditation that's water we're starting this whole entrance here with water that's but so few people understand that it's a very ancient way that you would be begin the day with a prayer starting the day by saying oh how can I be of service to my Incarnation since I'm back in this thing again and that's the water element is the remembrance of the holy of the spiritual the non-verbal the quiet part and most of us just trample we just run into the day and jump into our phones and run into the busy and here come man I I have a morning routine uh that is just ridiculously long I I'm just that type of person Allison
1:32 for you know it's it's interesting you see the contrast when you live with someone right Allison wakes up super perky alert I mean I guess she has her own little morning routine I don't know exactly what she's doing but you know I'm meditating for an hour I got the ice bath I mean it's like two or three hours before I feel like I can interface with other people that's the 12 house that's those little glasses I was going to wear my sunglasses because of you but that is the entrance for you into the physical experience takes a moment it takes a while to get back in my body come out cuz you're 12th house you live in the dream world so when you come into form you're like give me a minute give me make this that was like eight hours in one world you're not supposed to jump out You' be like running out of the house as soon as you wake up as soon as you enter in the next thing we're going to do no we walk if I have some appointment or
2:20 something at at 9:00 a.m. like I have a men's group we we meet once a month and we meet at 9:00 a.m. and every time we have that meeting I'm like I'm quitting I'm dropping out of the group like who could do this like who can be in their car at 8:00 a.m. driving across town I'm like this is ridiculous of course then I go we have a great time and I go all right I can do it but yeah uh being that's the difference between a water personality who needs time and a fire person who wakes up good more really loud and ready to jump into the day and I have a lot of more fire than you do so I do yoga at 6:30 in the morning yeah I think like it's so morning those people are aliens to me someone not an alien someone that wakes up and is like ready to talk right away anyway but that's so perfect cuz that's water you're describing the elemental
3:05 conversation we're about to have and water people it's an energetic slow sensitivity that requires time to make the shift and adjust the energetics for people that are fired they just push right into the energy and make a change or Earth people who have a list of things to do that are like you sensitive too bad you're so sensitive that's the Earth person to the water and the air person's like that's interesting well what do you do in the morning well tell me all the things I'm going to write it down they they're going to research you include the information and the water person's like not right now I'll tell you the information when I'm ready and my energetic body has reached this moment with calm and that's really important to know yeah it took me a long time to understand that and also to give
3:50 also to give other people Grace knowing that their blueprint is different than mine so I don't think they're insane or annoying but yeah I think what I what I experience when I wake up it takes you know cuz we're dreaming and I'm in this other world that seems very real and I'm not convinced that it's not maybe this is the dream and when you're asleep is your real life that's the truth it's debatable that's not debatable that's a truth when I wake up I I mean it it literally takes me a while to kind of just because you were in another world the debate's got to be put to sleep the truth is we live in two different realities we spend 8 hours a day lying in this is the craziest thing when you think about it more than 5 minutes you're like this is so weird take off your clothes turn off the lights everybody feels safe we're going to
4:35 close our eyes and go where and remember what and come back going oh that felt so good but there's no recall there's no consciousness in your whole chart I don't know if you know this I don't know how much you know about this you have four planets four planets in the house of the dreamer all in a water sign so compounded by your sensitivity is the arena it happens in for you is the dream world you have four planets in the house of the dreamer so that is a real world feels very real I recently signed up for this subscription service called Quantum upgrade and it's been a major game changer for my energy EMF resilience and the overall feeling in our home let me
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6:53 here the nature of this realm the nature of Consciousness our unique blueprints types personalities all the things our physical body our Vitality longevity I just am like infinitely curious and I always feel like well I've covered every modality every topic because it's been eight nine years or something I've been doing this every single week yeah when you sat down yeah full five I do five shows a month right it's like we're up to I don't know five 600 shows or something right but it's funny cuz you sat down I was like what the hell I've never done a show on astrology I mean that's like such a huge part of many people's lives for eons right which we're going to learn from you and I realized it's because I'm always waiting for the master to appear like there's
7:40 I'm sure many other people in the world you know know some things about astrology and such but that's part of why I think this show has been as successful as it is I have a really strong intuition when I find the person that's going to be a be able to communicate a teaching or um you know whatever information wisdom they now the codes yeah the codes right to to my people to the people that resonate with the way I present information and so you sat down I was like oh this is why I've never done it because I didn't know you yet right so here we are so I'm really I'm really glad to have you and I'm honored yeah shout out to uh Garen and Blair you know for inviting us over to dinner a couple months ago and and Allison was aware of your work and I wasn't and she's like oh this is exciting you know she's going to be really fun to meet and you were and you are so here we are drinking our deteran
8:26 depleted water I'm going to drink to that ready to rock and roll uh first thing I want to tell you is that I have uh little to no understanding of astrology so you're going to be talking to a newbie little to no understanding yeah which is funny because my mom was pretty into astrology I guess still is and her mother as well and so uh my mom's told me this story a few times where uh when I was supposed to be born as the Clock Was ticking it was looking like I was going to be a triple Scorpio and my mother and her mother were freaking out because of their understanding of astrology and we're like we don't want a triple Scorpio and then I was either early or late and I had a moon in Libra that saved the day so just about to move into Scorpio okay
9:12 so that that's you know that's about all I know but I want to say one thing that has made it intriguing to me is um that throughout my life the vast majority of my close relationships romantic and platonic have been one of three signs almost exclusively other Scorpios Libras and Virgos Allison's a Capricorn I think she's the first Capricorn I've ever known you know intimately so I thought that was interesting so I asked someone that knew about astrology at one point I said well these are you know these are the false signs right Libra Virgo Scorpio and so I always just assumed that more people were making babies in early in the year and that there was just much more of those three signs so
9:58 that you know the the the ratio of those three s higher story and then the astrologist person I forget who it was was like it doesn't work like that people have sex all the time you know I was like okay cool I'm a Believer then because it's uncanny I mean it's like bizarre that you have five planets scor you probably didn't know that either Sun Mercury Jupiter Venus Neptune that's five and your Rising you've got a lot of you are an archetypical perfect picture of a Scorpio wow so which means want me to translate that my throat's a little funny translation Scorpios are the only sign that will destroy their ego in the quest of their soul they'll do anything to get closer to themselves even if it means destroying what looks normal what
10:44 makes them comfortable makes people like them they don't care they're like listen to me they're so severe listen to me the most important thing in this existence is to be in service to a soul to have a to have the godhead or a visual of the to whom I serve it's not me like wow that's pretty radical that's that's very true and that prevents the normal lifestyle from being acceptable because you're destroying the fake facades or the Illusions or the pretense in the Quest for the real thing which means saying no to a lot of things wow very true and that makes you feel I mean people think God they're so mean they're always saying no they're so edgy they're so opinionated they're so strong they are so uncompromising have you been
11:30 accused of that yeah hopefully not mean too often because I think I'm well you also have three planets in Libra pretty kind-hearted person generally but you five in Scorpio and three in Libra and Libra is the sweetheart so that's the little spice that's why my Mom and Grandma were stoked I was a handful anyway with with that uh that brings me to another question I have a million questions here uh that are more in the linear order that I plan to go and never do um over the past few years with the wild ass changes we've seen in the world and um you know so much kind of authoritarian overreach and the media has you know exposed itself as being
12:15 largely fraudulent and you know full of propaganda and whatnot it's been an interesting study of people to see those that have been kind of driven further into a desire to understand truth even if it's an uncomfortable truth and then there have been a large swath of the population uh that seem to Value comfort and certainty more than they value the sometimes painful truth and I think I'm you know I don't I don't think one's better than the other but I've it's helped me with my compassion for people that I would have Jud judged as sheep before to be honest cuz I'm just like you idiots why are you going along with this what is wrong with you so Scorpio and at some point I've just realized you know what just like I can't
13:01 help the way I was born and wired where I'm willing to face really gnarly truths about my life my experience myself the world government medicine whatever it is it's like even if it's terrible and evil I would rather know even if it's scary than like put my head in the sand and you can't make me not be that way like I there's nothing I could do to be the other way so I realized oh people that just blindly follow Authority you know to the gas chamber or to the you know to the um the Noose or wherever they're going to end up they can't help being that way either they're just wired they want an authority figure to keep them safe and so I have much more compassion for those people knowing that that's how they are does
13:46 astrological do astrological signs play into that like that just to broadly say a value system of Truth Versus Comfort definitely it's a yes there are particular person personality types who thrive on repetition familiarity staying and maintaining status quo and following taking the course of action and not deviating and then there's the deviants who are the ones that are the independent thinkers who can't follow who don't fit in and don't want to fit in and it's they're the opposite it's kind of like split parties or the sun and the moon or the male and the female and our tendency as you described is to want to judge the [ __ ] out of the ones that aren't like us yeah what's wrong with you totally like what happened to you did you not read the memo did you
14:33 not drink the Kool-Aid what is or did I drink the what's wrong with the story nothing's wrong you have eyes and ears but that is the distinction about understanding the multiplicity of The Human Condition and once that's acceptable once we actually entertain and actually go past tolerating but be fascinated by the distinctions that's what astrology does it makes me understand wow this person I'm sitting next to someone who doesn't want to talk and they have no interest in my my Fascination cuz I'm like you three plants in Libra I am Libra Rising I am endlessly fascinated it's like a kid in a candy store like that that social media game that you're all playing right now is so addicting because my mind is like at the candy store with learning new things but that's some people are like shh why do you talk all the time what's
15:21 the need for all this intellectual stimulation why don't we go outside and farm why don't we go take care of the animals what about the kids what about the what about planting and making things and being quiet and working with the hammer so there's differences but we tend to create similar why we like each other so much as we're so similar like oh I love these conversations so once we once I became less dependent on the same same and realize that diversity was really a word that exists in this reality for a reason you've got to have 12 different signs we have all these different cultures skin colors people from ETS that land on this planet we don't know that they're that we have different languages we have different ways of operating from our nervous
16:07 system some people need to be cold some people need to be hot and once I began to for me this is me as an elder I became much more to your user word compassionate like we're so weird and different and I'm so glad you're you so I can talk like this and I won't be comfortable sitting next to someone who's a farmer cuz I don't know what to say to him so be okay about the distinction without judging it yeah it feels a lot better you know and I think all of that was just became more pronounced in the past few years because so much polarity was created under the stress of you know of all all the things that have happened just the the unraveling of all these institutions and our fa the pretense of us being safe by
16:53 doing same same and be given instructions and following that's done now so we're in the Aquarian age which is about breaking the rules that our family I grew up in an era where you couldn't talk about astrology on a this would be unheard of the astrologer that showed up on a camera that was going viral on a computer and it was a woman there were no women astrologers until 30 years ago they weren't allowed think first of all think about astrologers they were all working for the Kings and the queens and the high levels working for the courts in the back room and they were all men that knew how to do math it's very mathematical very left brain so it excluded the women it excluded the women excluded anyone that wasn't wealthy
17:39 intellectually Advanced that didn't have a mathematical prowess so there was a very limited audience and now I have a school and they're all women I feel like the pendulum whoop now all the women want to study astrology and now we have computers we push a button there's no more math involved right I mean this whole thing happened in one second that's funny it would have taken me hours and hours to execute this chart only just before computer when I started studying astrology I keep I hope I'm not doing you're but I am a little crazy that's all right get get wild I like being wild is that okay everybody's having fun s there's there's foam on the inside of this thing I thought so I can scratch it nobody gets hurt that's going to be a little short I bet okay when I first started studying astrology I was young it was before the computers came out I
18:26 started 10 years old I got interested so was peculiar that my appetite my my soul's urge was showing up and then I found out there was all this math involved I mean a you don't you can imagine I've never told anyone this before in order to create a chart the mathematical equations required and the amount of time to execute the equations to figure out where was the moon at that moment in that City at that time that's why we ask for your birth time date and place we take up a camera the astronomer take a picture of that moment then execute the chart to reflect that moment moment and then I look at the chart and go his Sun his Moon his Mercury and Venus were all standing in one spot very unfamiliar very un like that's unusual once in a lifetime like you're this
19:11 chart is so extreme cu the sun was in Scorpio the moon was in Scorpio right next to it was Jupiter and Mercury they were all sandwiched four planets standing in one spot now that sounds like a mouthful what it means is that there's a concentration of energy this Soul signed up for and he said I'm going for this serious [ __ ] like don't be doing halftime don't be doing sort of kind of I'm going for the straight Goods well that came with the soul that your little child your Mom and Grandma had to deal with this unbelievable intensity like what do we do to turn this thing down I can't find the knob well he will figure it out when he gets older after he does enough addiction and enough distraction we get his attention how' I do spot on 100% that's what astrology does it gives
19:57 me the shortcut to understanding the souls agreement well to the point of the math that's interesting because the chart that I was trying to find this morning frantically which it's been in my fining cabinet for 20 years my mom sent it to me years ago and I said I'm going to need that someday so I've had it in a very specific file I don't know what I'm going to do with it but it's it's like you know your birth certificate things like that it was in there right couldn't find it but I remember looking at it and it was meaningless to me because it was so complex I mean it was very equational there was obviously a lot of math it's hieroglyphics it's EGP gics it meant nothing to me so Egyptian hieroglyphics hung on to it you know hoping to meet someone like you go oh yeah I know what this means well the good news as I'm here so the interesting thing about uh astrology to me too as you know
20:42 admittedly a novice and not knowing much about it not being a disbeliever but not being you know just frankly that interested in it but another uh thing that's kind of anchored my interest to it to some degree is just hopefully having the humility to acknowledge that what's going on in the cosmos at the time you leave your mother's body and become your own body on that planet it's got to have some impact you know what I mean like there just I there I don't know what it does but there's just no way it does nothing so that's kind of where my curiosity comes from the other thing is and I don't know if youve looked into I love that I love that yes the other thing well the other thing is the way our over the past I don't know few decades a hundred years the way our
21:28 cosmology has been explained to us in this um kind of heliocentric model versus the geocentric model it's got me really interested because I'm always looking for the truth I'm like I just don't believe anything at face value especially if it's coming from the institutions that have historically been so deceptive and dishonest so I had a guy um named Flat Earth Dave on here a couple months ago on the show it's fascinating and he's just giving me a different understanding of the cosmos right and in meeting him and just seeing things on social media and going down some rabbit holes I've seen people with these um very powerful telescopic camera lenses and they're looking up at planets right and we've been shown like CGI sort of cartoons of Jupiter and
22:15 Pluto and they're they're just like Earth only smaller different color and don't have trees and water well people now are showing you planets and they're like these balls of light right they're undulating they're like simatics you know they're going not what we've been told and these are citizen journalists not NASA right I trust NASA but as far as I could throw one of their rocket ships so that actually made me more interested in astrology is seeing stars and planets as these sort of pulsing fields of energy these pidal fields and thinking about well if I was looking at Earth whatever shape it is from out there whatever that is the earth probably has a similar of course energetic imprint and so I started just think thinking about how we tie into the cosmos and I was like God and our bodies
23:02 are made of water molecule for molecule 99% and you see how the moon and the you know affects the tides and all this stuff supposedly so that's been really interesting to me and it's kind of so your CH you're a Trippy guy reinvigorated my interest in in how the stars and planets affect us that's what I'm saying that was a long-winded way to say yes I'm going the answer yes and the point you're bringing is you're doing all left brain right now you're using the left brain to make an exception like a a case you're doing a case right now that the Human Condition built by this unbelievable moving thriving universe that we now take pictures of we've got evidence that they are alive substances they it's so far beyond my cute little payroll I don't like I'm sorry so as an
23:47 astrologer I've suspended any of those I'm interested I go to the Planetarium I can't retain a thing I try I watch it more than once I take notes I've been going to the Planetarium for years but what I did did have stick to my brain without ever forgetting it now that I've seen your chart the real question is I can't figure out the nature of the cosmos it's bigger than my small little brain cute as I am my brain is not cute it's kind of quirky and it has little ways that I get fascinated and other parts I don't remember a thing but I'm so interested what I do know for sure which is crazy is I done this almost 50 years I can look at any chart at all and describe the person's life lesson and what their Essence is and what they came with as issues and how they're going to have to work through these particular karmic promises and that once they do
24:34 here's the high road here's the low road so all the scientific part while I'm nerdy in Fascination it doesn't stick I think it sticks in your head because of the way you described the depleted theum depleted water I was impressed but I do remember the emotional content how I can penetrate somebody's emotional body enough to get them reconnected to life to remind them that they're not a curse that whatever is happening to them whatever your stupid I call them stupid stories whatever your stupid story was completely orchestrated organized by this chart because there was agreements you made I can't show you the paperwork I don't know where you signed it but I have evidence by your stories so I'm less scientific in my appetite although I'd go to a planetarium anytime you want and talk about it and read about it I
25:20 just can't my left brain like has a slippery slope my right brain my emotional intelligence my ability to feel you that's where I have retention and where I have less explanation but more description I had no idea that at one point astrology was a male dominated study which is interesting to me because I don't know I don't think any men that are deeply interested in it but women seem very interested in it you know and I think it's just the intuitive nature of the feminine just likes the mystical right I mean I don't know many guys that collect crystals you know there's all kinds of things it's the same thing about yoga think about all the yogis that lived in who were men and now there's a million women doing yoga it's the same kind of thing think about rabbis there was never ever a female
26:05 Rabbi till 1980 it was all men women were not allowed to be rabbis and now there's this beautiful movement in the Jewish renewal in any of the Jewish up new versions where women are like canters and singing and doing all the things they couldn't do before so the pendulum swinging which is why we see so many women all over this planet being like in circles and doing yoga and learning about health food and watching Oprah and being that that's like a it's an epidemic I always go where are all the boys well they had their turn and now we're trying to balance the spe like let the Spectrum be in the middle so I love when there's male students that come to my school I have a lot of astrology students that are women like 98% really bad High huh M and all the
26:50 women that work in my company I have 30 mentors and 20 employees are all women so I've kind of made up for lost time what a wild operation you have tell me about tell me it's kind of skipping ahead I'm going to skip all over seems like you can roll with that kind of nonlinear approach to a podcast um tell me about your your school I mean it's like to have 20 employees you're doing something you're serving a lot of people you know I have a couple contractors uh you know got the guy behind the scen Jared and I don't know a few other people and I feel like man I this is a lot to manage and they're all very you know self- autonomous and all that um but you know what how is your kind of business evolved in sharing this information with people I think well it's funny because you have a community oriented chart you have three
27:36 planets in the 11th house that's the house of community of astrology of Science of open-mindedness of collecting people to educate them it's one of your big flavors why this podcast is so relevant to your chart um I didn't know I was a businesswoman I had no idea I was a Healer for over 40 years I had a private practice as an astrologer and as a psychotherapist and then one day the woman lives here in um Austin one day a woman called Destiny got a reading for me this is the funniest thing and ever since I met her I had meetings every Monday morning with Destiny that's funny Destiny showed me how to use the internet and showed me that I had a tool called astrology that could be marketed with a formula and some modules and so I designed a very simple process happens twice a year this
28:22 is coming to our 10th year in January and September maybe between 4 to 600 students come and work with us wow and they get put into a small class I don't believe in lots of numbers I want things to be personalized every single classroom there's only 10 people in the room and there's one Mentor who studied your chart before you got there and she takes you through step by just baby steps the see it's you're so smart we're not all so intellectual like you you've got three planets in Libra and you have a Mystic that's insatiable like you're on a mission poor guy and your wife is too so that's good because you could drive each other nuts if you weren't yeah so I also had a mission and I'm much more Community Based and I I figured out the formula that if I get you talking about
29:08 you you'll talk for hours I figured that out as a practitioner and then I created an astrology school that was based on you the first level one just getting to know your karma your agreements Your Shadow your favorite topic and then I did the second level after six weeks you come back again if you're interested and then you learn how to do a reading and then people actually become astrologers and that's those 30 mentors they all went through the school they all became teachers and now they come to um every year they get these classes and I get to send them it's the funnest I don't know who made this up so cool I really to perfectly honest I've I've realized that my manifestation once again like you Des I see your left brain and your articulation my manifest I call it woman festation my woman festation is
29:54 instinctual and I get directions from home office so Destiny arrived and she asked me if I wanted to do I was like an online what does that even mean I mean I was too old I never heard of that an online school yeah your your age is 70 now I'm going to be 70 in two a little over two years damn you have a lot of energy I hope I'm doing that well at 70 and looking that well should we talk about the water I drink did you should we talk about my diet I'm telling you we talk about what I do every day follow the four elements should we talk about how young I was when I started well they say age comes with wisdom and I'm hoping that's true but unfortunately it also comes with wrinkles so I'm going to let you in on a secret that's been soothing out my complexion and keeping
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31:26 here's what you do go to bond onch charge.com lifestylist and use the code lifestylist to get 15% off oh and unlike other brands Bond charge very intelligently remov the blue and green light so you can be sure the mask won't disrupt your circadian rhythm or your sleep if you use it at night again that's b o n c h a GE Bond charge.com stylist and that code again is also lifestylist how did you get into into uh the health stuff I mean you know hydrogen water deter pleed water this isn't like oh I ate a kale smoothie I mean that's some yeah it's pretty advanced level stuff that you have to do a bit of research to even find out about those things it's very similar to the business you asked the same now you've asked two questions that resonate once
32:14 again I am a very good listener and I have registered my body at a very young age I was a dancer my first half of my life and I realized that my body was this really trustworthy instrument and I never lost that awareness and I watched everyone getting older and getting tired and getting lazier not on their fault but gaining weight and I watch them change their diet and not change their diet like they started eating everything and they never became aware it was altering their ability to receive information or sensitivity or energetics or sustainability I watched it so I can't say I'm one of those people that were like I'm going to go be a businesswoman or I'm going to go be a health nut it all just came so instinctively because I listen and so I tattooed on my arm the words listen and
33:01 Silent in order to listen you've got to stop talking in order to listen you've got to be silent you have to let Spirit find her way and at a very young age listening was always a natural thing for me I'm nosy let's start there Libra I'm super nosy and I have Scorpio in me so I like when it's scary and dark like tell me you're scary I kind of like that do you think that is one of the things that Drew you towards Psychotherapy 100% I'm just playing nosy and I like the scary stuff I'm just going to say it out loud perfect career it's a perfect career and then my Gemini is funny enough thank God I'm a little funny that I could take all that scary [ __ ] and make it into funny and also disarm people and create a sense of comfort I imagine yes my new book I wanted to call it you're [ __ ]
33:47 up and I still like you but they wouldn't let me call it that but that's basically what I feel like astrology is like yes you're quirky yes you have a strange personality type yes you like to sleep you have dreams seems you live in another world but you're it seems [ __ ] up but it's not and that's essentially what my astrology does it helps people realize that those those quk the quirky idiosyncratic personality chunky pieces the part of you that's like a little embarrassing like why do I talk so much why do I ask so much why am I so nosy why do I stare you stare well it's Scorpio and then once I had language for it I can't explain how I found astrology or why I got so healthy so young or how I started the business but what I can tell you is I am a devoted spiritual
34:34 listener and that requires practice not interrupting you're so good at it well you know what's helped me be good at it is people um critiquing me online why don't you shut up and let the guests talk I'm like I get excited it's hard you know I see you as a profound listener well I it's a skill it's a skill yeah hopefully you know you take cues and improve but I'm also just I really love people and I'm really interested in people and um you know one of the benefits being the host of a show and someone who has the deciding power however limited that power might be in the great scheme of things I only talk to people that I'm really interested in talking to you know there's and there's amazing brilliant and I passed the test yeah there's amazing brilliant people out there all you know all day long I
35:21 mean I could do 20 podcasts a day with great people but there's a certain Essence that I'm tuned into that makes me want to listen to the person I'm sitting across from and it's very rare that I'm not deeply inspired and educated you get a gut feeling so fast like we were sitting at dinner and you were like you can be on my podcast yes exactly see that's something for the audience to hear back to you is that instinctual knowing which is water requires you knowing yourself enough to trust that and I bet there's been years in your younger years where you weren't listening to your intuition to that extreme State especially in relationships people jump into Rel relationships I always say Cupid's blind she pulls the thing out she you're in love and you're like did you want to ask me a question now I'm in love and then you have to go review what just happened
36:06 and is this karmically right and is this serving me and am I in the right relationship and how do I even know and yes astrology can help but a better question is that instinctual peace you have that deep knowing which gives you the permission to draw the right people that's a superpower and you can't explain it that's true and I have to uh you know being a recovered people pleaser there are many people that uh invite themselves onto the podcast and I'm so honored and I respect their interest you know I mean I really I really appreciate that anyone would want to sit here for whatever the reasons are but it's been a difficult process for me to learn how to politely decline those and I don't have a reason other than I just don't have that feeling that I'm
36:52 familiar with it's not there right it's like if you're attracted to someone or not it's like I don't know why you know they check all the boxes but I just I just don't have the vibe right and so so here's the good news about your child I was waiting to tell you when you were born Saturn was opposite all that Scorpio so you have five planets in Scorpio imagine they're all here and then Saturn was exactly opposite so Saturn is my favorite planet in our school I spent a lot of time on Saturn he's the old man of the zodiac he's the high school principal he's kind of grumpy it's like the guy that goes hey Luke come here you're like you're a little scared of him cuz he's not friendly but if you say to him I've done my work I got everything done I was on time I was responsible he loves you if you say to him God forbid God has forbid you were late you forgot your homework
37:38 the dog ate it he's like really and he's scary and you were born with that guy across from you all the time so it instills discipline you came in this life with like I'm not going to not get the right answer I'm not going to do what they tell me I'm taking responsibility for my internal instructions and I will do what they tell me to do and not everybody has that that's why you're in love with the Capricorn cuz Saturn rules Capricorn people that have that skill of discipline follow through being responsible doing their taxes cleaning their car creating Sacred Space you're like o like that person being on time big one for me but not everyone has that so this lifetime you inherited Saturn opposite all those planets is a clue for me that you came in with an inheritance around discipline so and you had to have
38:24 a hard time at the beginning of a life Saturn is old when they're young serious miserable can take things difficult addictive whatever the Dilemma is will show up that's why I said to you earlier you're done with the expectation that you'd ever not let the governor give you directions at this age you aged well and now you're trustworthy it's true long hard road to get there so for all of you who had a bad childhood to begin with you can learn from it take the lessons change your style and then be a really good parent because you got the teachings uh I don't want to make this too self-centric but I've always been curious as to why I have a very loose relationship
39:09 with time not in the sense like if I tell you I'm going to be somewhere I'll be there I I'm not late and but I never have a clue what the date is what time it is like there's no difference between 5 minutes and 5 hours in my inner experience and honestly it makes it difficult to operate in the world that's running on calendars and clocks and they just it's like a foreign language to me here we go here we go with different personal very it's very difficult well first of all you do do it when required and your wife tells you to you're on I mean it requires a lot of that discipline to like wrestle myself into tell you why you have four planets in the 12th house the 12th house is the very last sign of the zodiac and it's
39:55 where the Mystic lives at the end of incarnation when you spend enough lifetimes here at some point it's happening to a lot of people watching this you have a spiritual awakening you realize it's a dream you realize the dream is an illusion you realize you can let go of everything and then Buddha starts to sound cute oh really all suffering comes from attachment you start letting go you realize it doesn't really matter and time is Just an Illusion said Einstein all that's true at that spiritual level that you go to when you dream on the other plane of existence there's no such thing as clocks and time and schedules and alarms and cell phones we are there's this joke that when we get to the other side St Peter's going to be standing there with God and there's going to be this waiting room and
40:40 there's all these people standing there and then God turns to St Peter and says why are they all standing there like this CU they're so addicted to that thing they can't get their hand just relax on this plane you live on a different plane Luke you have many planets in the house the Mystic the magic the dreamer the other worlds why you wear those funny glasses so it keeps you in a softer Focus so you're not caught by the hardship of this assaulting world that's not true for me I live in a very concrete and your wife we live in concrete worlds where we have to water the plants and take care of the clothes and make sure we do the laundry and make sure we're on time and the kids have to get taken somewhere and you got to make sure that you turn the podcast on that's different for you and that's back to the original question you asked I can't judge you I want to sometimes
41:27 when people are late but I've learned to say uh uh uh Deborah this is astrology 101 everyone's different and you are not bound you're not supposed to be you promis to come down here to marry to blend those two worlds that's why Saturn is opposite all the Scorpio all that Scorpio in the house of the dreamer the Mystic the the sleepy time the Altered States being in different worlds is opposite Saturn and Taurus going excuse me can you come back here you're like all right but you do come back because you made a promise so thanks for following through in terms of our Soul's um influence on the circumstances of our birth and choosing the optimal karmic
42:14 opportunities it's it seemed pretty clear to me just examining you know my own life and the and the lives of others that despite how problematic our families can be that I feel like I chose mine and it was the perfect choice you know regardless of how dysfunctional and alcoholic and all of the problems going back on both sides of my family um but I feel like I chose the perfect circumstances if what I wanted to do here is what I'm doing which is evolving how did your siblings do I have two half brothers and uh one's very much like me went into a lot
43:00 of darkness and has been a beautiful Catalyst for his growth and evolution and we we're very much on the same path and one has had objectively a much despite having the same many of the same experiences a much smoother just he's just kind of a balanced normal guy Teflon it just went through so so I don't like the word I'm going to be politically incorrect I don't like the word chose I chose my family if you would have met my family I was either on drugs or someone twisted my arm I would say closely I could say I could lean towards I was assigned based on my karmic agreement and the team that works with me and the council that this would be a perfect setting for me it wasn't like I'll pick her like what you are you kidding right but what I do
43:47 think was that was a signed to me and I got a consent of course there's free will at some Dimension and then once I came down the Free Will is gone once you get down here the dog you got the kids the brother how your first love went how your body treat that stuff is all written there's all plans that are written and it's not like you wrote them this is where it gets silly for me having had a child when people say you create your own reality I was like I am not creating a brain right now somebody's working through me making this baby I am not taking credit so I got humbled humbled enough to know that I don't know what I do know is astrologically I can look at the chart and tell you there was no choice for you this like but to get through the dark to get to the light that was exactly what you'd planned do you
44:32 think that you know so one perspective is kind of your family system right and the lineage and all that um but then as it pertains to astrology I mean the second you come out is going to determine so much about your character and your proclivities and ultimately your destiny in this particular Incarnation right so do you think that we uh when we're in our our um disembodied Soul form and maybe we've already who there's debate about when we actually enter the embryo you know most people that I've you know resonated with say it about 3 months is when you kind of you land in there and then you're kind of gestating percolating uh how much say do you think we have as a soul
45:17 as to when we actually come out like if the baby's you know premature or late I mean do you think we're kind of aware of what's going on in the cosmos and we're like right now I think it's very arrogant if I were to answer this I cannot answer this and I don't want to pretend like I know what I do know said the astrologer is the time of birth is extremely important to your rising sign it determines the definition of your soul the rising sign why it's called the rising sign or the ascendant it's what we're moving into so it's very significant and it's determined by the moment and it can be as much as 2 hours off and still be the right rising sign so there's some variation but a better question is not how it happened and is there a team of your soul working I mean I have an
46:03 imagination as you do and I can make up all kinds of stories I'm really a practical person part of the gift of me doing astrology is I speak English there's a lot of astrologers out now I'm very delighted to know that it's returned to the zeist but there's so much jargon and there's so much spiritual theories that I find fascinating and I can listen for days and what I do know by my own experience is that that I worked with the council I had a direct experience where I was given directions and I clearly came in this lifetime with a very strong memory to have found astrology so young here's the secret I never had a teacher and I became a successful famous so to speak the OG whatever that means the Original Gangster I thought it was an old gangster when I first heard it I
46:49 was like am I the old gangster is that a good thing or a bad thing especially cuz my dad wasn't the Jewish Mafia so I was like oh the Apple didn't fall far from the and now they're calling me an old gangster and I came in with a memory very young and recapitulated I love that word where I remembered and I once again was listening enough to my own heart that I was so interested in astrology from so young that I can tell you now in 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th grade all the kids I grew up with where their sun and their moon was to this minute CU I was like for just like you have a fasination with longevity and knowing how to use the body and helping people you're obsessed that's true that's what happens to Scorpios they get obsessed I too am obsessed with helping this planet make the transition from the era that we're
47:35 in right now which is clearly the most intense we have never had 8 billion people here think about that for a minute consuming pooping using plastic making love getting pissed off driving cars flying on airplanes and it's not stopping so clearly we're in a New Era where the numbers are describing themselves and my job and your job is to be able to one I always tell everybody this first things first which you've done an excellent job in this space create Sacred Space and regulate your nervous system know how to come home and take a deep breath should we do it and change the energy in the room every time you consciously take a deep
48:21 breath and become the agent of changing energy in the room number one number two start watching your mind the little culprit the mean little thing says [ __ ] about you when you're not looking mean [ __ ] talks behind your back you don't get that guy in his seat good luck so I spent a lot of time with astrology helping people put Windex on their left brain clean off because astrology you learn a technology simple but so interesting about human nature with compassion drenched in it how do I understand someone with this much Scorpio in the 12th I'm not going to bug you in the morning you stupid I can just look at this chart and say this guy needs quiet you wonder why you don't have a lot of people in your home you
49:07 thrive on Stillness once you know that you can give someone permission to not be quote unquote normal which is a setting on the dryer what is normal I mean there's nothing normal about 8 billion people on the planet all trying to figure out what they're doing here and no one knowing and then eventually we get to a point where we're like hey my observer's on this is what I teach I'm aware that I'm in a body I suddenly become conscious of my chart and my function and my ability to respect this Temple and then this place gets kind of easy surprise and then the older you get the more grace and then it becomes really fun who knew who knew I could be this old and have this much energy and get so
49:52 excited to be talking to Luke's story I'm don't even know it's all about the innocence and the humility to say that we don't really understand I study like you especially about planets I have it everywhere I'm constantly interested it's just a joke because I can't retain it and I can't explain it but I can promise you we're on Earth that's what I've been told is it true except when I go to bed exactly and then I have these visions and then every once in a while I do sacred medicine and every once in a while I have a meditation where I get a voice I'm like are we good is this Earth just tell me again what day is it uh-oh so we all live in this very transient pretense the gift that I have this life is the humor like it's kind of a joke
50:38 sh and it gives Comfort to know that everyone's slightly [ __ ] up it's okay and that no one really understands and that the more you take care of this Temple which I'm so impressed with you and your wife really respecting this place drinking the water properly eating prop properly exercising having orgasms listening to music smelling tasting watching babies letting the dog lick your leg do you know how many angels are trying to get in here right now and by the way it can't continue like we're at a threshold we are at a turning point so enjoy yourself I always said 2024 was the end of ease 202 yes
51:25 we're we're peing right now la la la la la everybody see I I sort of uh I drift back and forth with my perspective of the world and always with the anchor that I I know nothing right it's like I I don't know what the future holds but from one lens I would look at just geopolitically culturally just where we are as a human family that it is like the end of the world and it's we it's we're just about to implode and it's the darkest time ever Scorpio the more wise side of me though knows ah I'm only able to see where we are from my very limited perspective right here at this slice in what we call time and the only thing I
52:11 have to rely on are my senses so can I really trust that so maybe as in my own life in the darkest of times when I felt suicidal and homicidal and was just completely uh you know such a train wreck I had no idea at that time that on the other side of that was a spiritual ual Awakening and a relationship with God and a life full of love and empathy and compassion and a beautiful wife and I would have never imagined that so I try as best I can to see that vision for Humanity that we're going through this sort of the world is like about to get thrown into rehab you know and it's like they're super [ __ ] up and there's an intervention that's kind of ensuing and it's pretty dark but on the other side of that hopefully enough of us will kind of pull through to you know grab the people
52:57 behind well I I like to believe it's that but what I'm asking is where do you see us as you know from an astrological point of view for example do you see us as having a rebirth or is this like the Doomsday that we have been fearing it's so interesting or is it both astrologically we are at a turning point Pluto enters Aquarius Neptune enters Aries Uranus enters Gemini this is very technical I hate talking astrology for people but the short answer is all the outer planets are going into Fire and Air so to your point this is an analogy I do if I had never seen a woman give birth before in the lifetime and suddenly I'm in a room or I'm watching a film and she's pregnant and she's throwing up and she looks like she's
53:43 kind of having a problem and this thing starts growing on her and now we get to the end of the movie and now she's screaming I've never seen it before and we're all in the room together and I'm like ah this does not sound look feel right and there's some wisdom Keepers in the room that go excuse me sit down how dare you turn judgmental on a cycle that you don't understand that you've never seen have you no faith oh sorry okay everybody sit down and then all a sudden she starts to really scream and yell I mean some weird shit's going on now and there's this thing coming out of her it does not look right sit down keep breathing she's got this and then comes this little teeny thing you never would have expected with
54:29 little teeny eyelashes and little where do you see that baby tonight I mean perfect now all the way through we were tell the truth everybody was worried that's exactly where we're at I am not smart enough to know how this is going to go I know I'm an astrologer for many years almost 50 but what I can tell you is trust cuz you know it's for sure the sun's coming up the moon's moving in increments Saturn's exactly where it should be there's a council watching you there's an entertaining factor for the cosmic joke there's people like Jesus watching you don't think for one minute this place is not being watched so I can't answer I don't have the brain power I used to think I was smart then I
55:16 thought I was Dumb and now I'm kind of in the middle I'm a little smart because I'm innocent and I have an innocent quality about my Mercury's in Taurus so I'm a little slow on the other hand I'm a really good astrologer because I've learned human nature I have stared at people I have studied I had a whole crew of prostitutes at one cycle where I got to work with people that were professional prostitutes and I fell in love makes me think of it because of your chart they had a chart similar to you it's I'll tell you more I've worked with chronic mental patients in backwards of hospitals that had no hope for coming out and I began to understand what what was God thinking when they made that so I've gone through deep entrances into the human which you would love to hear about and the short answer is we are them I mean secretly we're all
56:03 I say the soul is a prostitute better known as the soul is a [ __ ] the soul will do anything to learn addiction being depressed thinking about suicide that's the soul in full commitment divorce Financial ruin getting sick the Soul's like we got to have one now this person's really desperate they are on their knees I heard them pray for the first time what happens in when you go to you have alcoholism and you go to the 12-step program the very first step is H I'm out of control good they say they're so excited First Step yay second step I believe in God I believe in God I do I do I do okay now we got you so I don't
56:48 know if this destruction or this dismantling or the transformation of The Human Condition is a bad thing or a good good thing but I do know it's happening that's not debatable amen we are extinct we are getting done we must not continue by having people that can't eat down the street I won't I can't live like that breaks my heart I like that analogy I mean that's how I view things on a good day is just in in the not knowing and just leaning into the side of hope that all things happen for good right into the point of the guides the Angels the benevolent beings watching live I mean space I can't help but think the creator that created all of Consciousness and everything in it
57:34 physical and non-physical just created it and then bounced you know what I mean like there's a lot of work to create this reality to just be like and good luck guys you know that's kind of what keeps me in the game that is so funny that's the humor that allows us to take this place lightly that's why angels can fly cuz they take things lightly and that's one of the gifts that I've been given as a Gemini as double air Libra Rising that I I mean I have a huge emotional component as you do it's not hard for me to get sad and I can tickle myself when no one's looking well it's winter again folks
58:19 that means there's less sun to be had and less time spent Outdoors getting that blood moving now for a lot of people this can lead to depression I know it can for me and it makes sense when you realize that sunlight switches on serotonin and hormones like endorphins too I'm guessing by now that most listeners know that along with breath work and Ice baths sa therapy is on my top three list of Health hacks I do them just about every day and especially during the long dreary winter months we getting the right wavelengths of light and a good sweat is key to my mental and physical well-being so when I can't get enough sunlight outside I bring the sunlight in with my amplify full spectrum sauna by sunlighten research shows that infrared saunas can
59:06 have a positive effect on mood helping to alleviate depression and anxiety and regular sessions can also lower cortisol levels reducing stress and increasing mental Clarity and focus there's a ton of science on infrared therapy but I also go by how I feel and when I step out of my sunlighten I always feel super chill and ready to tackle what's next so bring the healing powers of infrared light into your home with the highest quantity and quality of infrared available visit g.s sunlight. comom luk story and use the code Luke story to save up to 600 bucks oh and also check out the lifestylist episode 477 with sunlight and co-founder Connie Zach with
59:51 25 years optimizing the sauna game non-toxic materials and barely detectable levels of EMF sunlighten is absolutely the way to go that's g.s sunlight. comom luk story and don't forget that code Luke story to save up to $600 have you ever had any awareness uh of past lives for yourself what have what have those shown you such a good question it's so interesting the podcasters who are the real thing cuz I've done podcasts throughout my first book The Missing element and at the end I to kill them is that bad to say well we won't name them I mean I was just I was like I can't even believe they're asking me the same stupid question when I found astrology I'm going to hurt someone it got me so upset so I'm in a new version and you've really assisted
1:00:38 many people here in Austin have really assisted to let the conversation go deeper and more real than just the typical questions so thank you thank you for doing the work you're doing to activate a new version of how to really be authentic in a conversation it matters to me thank you um past life I've never really talked about this before perfect I love it when people say they probably tell you that a lot well I like to get the exclusive you know right you like sneak into people that's a typical Scorpio I have I have had past life memories since I was young that gave me uh familiarity once again because I had an innocence I I was I had a very very difficult childhood and I think it served me to your point about your soul choosing your childhood because I didn't have the conditions
1:01:24 that I should have had so I didn't know that when I went horseback riding and I had this past life memory that it was a past life memory but as years have gone by and my whole house became completely nav native all kinds of Indian paraphernalia and I realized that I had decorated with a memory that I didn't consciously realize I thought back to that memory and thought Oh that was a time travel moment and when I was in the sweat lodges and I taught at Elin for many years and I was in a sweat lodge and I was like this feels more comfortable than being in my bed in the morning I couldn't believe it and I was working with people energetically and I was this old you know Native American woman who knew how to chant and knew how to hold people in
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