0:01 Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. >> Hello, boys. >> Good to see you. >> We're back in action. [laughter] >> We're back. >> WE'RE BACK. >> WE were just talking and I told to get [laughter] off. I told Ro, save this for the air cuz Ro years ago. [ __ ] this had to be like at least 10 years ago. 20 years ago, >> that was like 2006, 2007. >> Crazy. So 20 years ago, Ro calls me up and he says, "Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something." I go, "Okay, sure." So we go to see his concert. That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernov. That's right. >> So you had a TV show in Long Beach, >> right? Right. It was You and Eddie came.
0:48 >> Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then uh afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. Like he sets his green room up like a [ __ ] after hours party. He's got like tapestries on the wall and candles and lights. Yeah. You walk in like damn. Like he doesn't. >> Yeah. He doesn't just walk into a cold green room like I'm lazy. If I go on the road, I just what what's your green room? I'll go hang out in there. It's like it doesn't just walk. But he has it set up like everywhere is like calm and relaxing and spiritual. And uh so I meet Tommy and Tommy wants a fight kid rock in the UFC. [laughter] >> THIS IS THIS is true. >> What makes people think they can do this? >> It's for Pam Anderson's heart. >> Yeah. This is how this is kind of how it started. That was that way with Pam.
1:35 >> Yeah. >> Like you know they both were married to her. So [clears throat] >> Tommy and her always going to be connected because of the kids. So, she had split up with Kid Rock and Kid Rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her, not together, but you know, they were together that day. And he she asked him, you know, you're friends with him. Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and [ __ ] And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that [ __ ] >> boy. >> And she's like, you know, if you know, please. So he winds up hitting, you know, him up and like, "Look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call, blah, blah, blah." Of course, Kid Rock took the heat. [ __ ] you. You know, blah blah. So they're [ __ ] each other back and forth. Goes away.
2:22 [clears throat] Now, there was some MTV Awards thing, >> okay? >> And uh actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing and there was this rumor that Kid Rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and like and come to Tommy's room and attack. >> So me, my man Kimmo, who you know as well, um you know, we're sleeping in Tommy's room hoping they show up and uh of course they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door in. I think totally >> they actually went looking for him for real. >> I don't think they went looking for him. I think it was a big publicity [ __ ] they sign some autographs and and they keep it moving. >> So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, "Yo, dude." I go, "Fuck him." I go, "You
3:08 should fight him on pay-per-view. Imagine all the money [laughter] that we make." I go, "I'll fight his [ __ ] security guy. Like, we'll [ __ ] make a whole thing of it." He goes, "Man, that's brilliant." >> Oh my god. >> So I go, "Uh, I go, you know, I'm telling you." I said, "You should do." I said, "Look, either you fight him and you beat him up or he punks out and you win either way." And he's like, he's like, "Yeah, yeah, I like this." So, he talks to his management. Of course, it just goes by the wayside. Well, they're having some MTV awards [ __ ] Security's not allowed on the floor there. They had their own like c, you know, it was in a casino. They have security for it. While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock like comes up kind of behind him and pokes him and Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him
3:55 there. >> He hit him. >> Yeah. What? >> And I'm home. My phone is getting blown the [ __ ] up. Like, what happened with Tommy? What happened with Tommy? I'm like, I don't [ __ ] know. Like, I'm not with him right now. And uh I get a call, I swear, like 30 minutes later, and it's Tommy. And he's going, "Fuck him." He goes, "I'm done with that [ __ ] I want to fight him. I'm gonna [ __ ] fight him now. I go, he goes, I want you to train me. I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out. I go, no, [laughter] you're moving to me. I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little [ __ ] ass kissers. I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it. >> Was he working out at all at the time? >> No. So, um, you know, the only working out he does is on the drums, which he does murder. So, um, >> that is a little bit of arm condition. [laughter] That's like a little punchy back. And I
4:41 can show you a picture of him with a choke on me and it's legit like he he did train with Hian and he I told you guys he trained some with Billy Blank. So [laughter] >> Billy Blank was I've talked about this on the podcast. He was a bad motherucker. >> He was a one of those like Raymond Daniels type karate point fighting character in the early days. >> He's a guy. He's [clears throat] a typo guy. But we'll get to that later. >> We'll get to that. Props to Billy Blanks. I bring him in and uh and I he I told him I said, "Look, we're when we're going to uh Long Beach." I said, "I know Rogan. I can have him come in and you can tell him your idea." [laughter] And he and he goes, "All right, all right." So, I bring Joe and Eddie, they meet him. You he tells Joe he wants to fight him literally. And Tommy said his uh
5:28 sanctuary was his management company at the time. I don't know if he still is or not. So, they call Kid Rock's people supposedly and offer this [ __ ] fight on pay-per-view and Kid Rock's people wound up calling back and basically turning it down saying whoever loses is ruined for, you know, for life, I guess, cuz looking like a [ __ ] cuz they both had the rock and roll tough guy, you know, image thing. >> So, uh, so he said that did he say that in print? >> That's literally how it how it stopped. >> Was that in print? Whoever whoever [clears throat] loses this is ruined or was that correct? >> No, no, no. That was the [laughter] that was the that was that was supposedly the response from Kid [clears throat] Rock's management to Tommy's management. >> That is correct. He would be correct, you know. >> Yeah, but if it's a good fight like a
6:15 Stefan Bonn and Forest G. >> Oh my god. >> Well, that would be different. Then they both revolutionary that I kind of forget who won that fight. >> Stephan Bonner, Forest Griest won that fight. >> I know Forest won, but I kind of forget because the fight was >> so good. It was that was one of the most toss up fights of all time. Like who [ __ ] knows? >> Dana did the right thing. He contracted both. We actually talked about it in the octagon right before he did it. >> Wow. >> Did you really? >> Yeah. Like you should give both these [ __ ] a bonus. He's like [clears throat] we're going to do that. I'm like [ __ ] yeah. It was amazing. >> Do you think uh if it wasn't for the Ultimate Fighter it would have died out? >> Who knows, man? But it was like lightning in a bottle because there was another good fight before that. Diego Sanchez [ __ ] Kenny Florian up, man. It was that was a oneway beating,
7:00 [laughter] >> but that was Diego Sanchez coming up. Like people got to see Diego fight too many fights. They got to see the later fights. They forgot what a monster Diego was in his prime. He was audio animal. >> Question his grappling. I mean, Marcelo got him, but you know, he he hung with one of the best of all time. >> JustinC. Yeah. >> Is he was a [ __ ] Listen, man. You can only get hit so many times. >> Agreed. And he was at halfway gone before taking. >> Well, he was always like this open-minded weird thinker. Remember he had that guy that was training him that you had a little bit of a >> What about that loser? >> Joshua Fabia. >> Yeah, don't mention his name. [laughter] >> That guy was demented, man. >> Well, he had Diego hanging upside down
7:45 like >> Yeah, the video's insane. The video is insane. But Diego was like super super open-minded. like he was willing to believe in magic. He was, you know what I'm saying? Like he believed in himself so much that Diego was like and he was also like doing weird stuff like he would chew meat and and spit it out. He would just chew it down like get all the juices from it and then spit whatever was left out. He wouldn't swallow the meat. >> But he was fun to watch. He'd come out [ __ ] animal. He was a [ __ ] animal. Steve Maxwell trained him for uh the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape. But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ started. That was when BJ was training with the Marinoviches. >> He was leaping out of pools.
8:31 >> BJ was unstoppable back then. There was there was a time where I always say, watch BJ in his prime. [clears throat] I'll put that dude up against anybody. >> BJ Prime. >> There's no doubt. I always say he's the best for 55 of all time. He was like in that in that window, right? in that window when he beat >> Matt Hughes prime. >> Yeah, he was a human Wolverine. >> Yeah, >> but you did a lot better with him than I did. [laughter] >> I thought he did. You had a championship caliber jiu-jitsu, >> you know what I mean? And a guy like him relies on jiu-jitsu a lot, >> you know, and but BJ was just the I was there's two fights, the Kenny for not I'm sorry, Sean Sher flight. The Shawn Sharp fight was prime BJ. Prime BJ. And then what about
9:17 that's another one too. But Diego was like more highly ranked [clears throat] than Joe. Yeah. Rick Cow Uno. I mean, he was a beast. >> Matt, look what he did to Matt Hughes when he took the title. >> Yeah, he was a beast. >> Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming up to my weight class. You [laughter] know, that type of thing. >> He was a Wolverine. >> That dude would fight people at 200. He fought Leota Machita 200 lb. That's crazy. He was a Wolverine. He did good for about that >> [ __ ] animal and did real good. Scary on the feet. >> Yeah. >> A natural 55 who fought as low as 45. Remember he went down to 45 a while. >> Bro, BJ was a monster in his prime. >> He was wellrounded too before guys were super well-rounded. Like he threw hands well. >> And if he just had the will to go through those Marinovich camps every
10:02 fight, he would have been unstoppable. >> Yeah. >> He just BJ would, you know, he would just lose his focus a little bit. I watched a YouTube documentary about like the rise and trajectory and then the later years. It was really well done, but it was all just talking about how there's this prime BJ and that's when he was training with the Marinoviches and incredible conditioning and he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning. >> Do you think he it wasn't laziness, right? What What do you think it was? >> A lot of friends, a lot of party. He's the king of the island. He's basically the king of Hawaii. PJ Ben was the king. Everywhere he would go, people were like, "It's PJ." I mean, he was a king in Vegas, man. He in in those prime years when he was the champ, he was a huge star. So, I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo. He's probably hanging out with the boys all the time, having a good
10:49 time. >> Plus, his family like had influence there, right? They had like money. He didn't come from poverty. But, it's just like that it just was real hard to maintain those kind of camps. Those camps are insane. >> He was also super super talented. And so it's like he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people like in practice. >> It definitely came easy. His flexibility and leg dexterity. >> Oh my goodness. >> I remember when I fought him and we were doing a rules meeting. This is the time where like we could ask questions like they did everybody in the rules meeting and I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner and Frank's like, "Are we allowed to in guard kick him in the head from I'm like what the how the hell?" like he was talking about his flexibility just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the
11:34 head from there and I was like what the hell is this guy insane, >> right? I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there? But apparently BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that behind his head. >> He could do double lotus without using his hands. >> So like sit back and just [ __ ] completely cotus. >> Yeah, like interlocked with no hands. >> That's insane. nuts. >> His flexibility is bananas. And he worked on it. It wasn't just like a natural gift. But how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms, they're so much [ __ ] stronger, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. There he is. >> That's nuts, man. You know what I'm saying? He could put his own [laughter] [ __ ] leg behind his head with no hands. That's crazy flexibility.
12:19 [clears throat] >> I'd say he was going to kick you while you were north south. >> Yeah. [laughter] He going to do that. That is nuts. But if is that legal? No. >> There's a lot of goofy rules, right? Like that's there's a I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them. But at least knees to the head should be okay. I agree with that because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding on to it and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life, right? Let's just real life a real fight. Why wouldn't the guy kne you in the head? You're grabbing his knee. If he's you're you're all right here, all he has to do is knee you in the face and he can't do it because you're on your knees. >> And let's be fair, like a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that.
13:04 >> Yes. >> You know what I'm saying? Like that's not way more behind it. >> Yeah. That's not as like if if if you're on the floor, I kne you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneing you right in the face with on Yeah. >> Well, especially if you're the Michael Venom Paige fight, >> the cyborg cyborg. Yes. If you ever want to know like what's the most destructive strike in MMA? >> Yeah. >> The most amount of power you can generate has got to be a knee. >> A flying knee >> while guy's coming in when the guy's like shooting in on you. >> The only thing I'm I'm not a fan of is the >> the kick the jab. [ __ ] the kick to the knee. Oh, >> I'm not a fan of that kick. Yeah. Like you saw what happens if if you hit it right when Khalil did it. >> He did. Yeah. Modest. Like my my opinion there is it's just something that if you hit
13:51 it right, it's it's an injury coming and and not a good one. You can't tap. It's not like a knee bar or something. So I kind of think if you can't kick a guy in the side of the knee for that reason, why should you be able to [ __ ] >> If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> I'm going to be real. I I need What are we doing here? What are we doing here? We're pretending. Like wear a cup and I can kick you in the nuts. There's some good cups out there. >> Always get a steel one. It's crazy. Like why why do we have some weird rules like that? >> Yeah, it's crazy because like every time somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you say it. You always say it. Why don't you get a steel cup? The fact that no one has a steel cup to me >> after all this time is unbelievable. >> Code and it's ultimate cheap code in in gu in grappling to somebody
14:37 on [laughter] remember air ranardi. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's a long time ago. >> Yeah. A long time ago. trained with him at uh Legends and he mounted me and he put his cup in my solar plexus like I was ready to tap from his dick. [laughter] >> All right, imagine imagine my two 265 doing that. You know what I mean? And I always wore when I trained, you know, >> as a lever for an arm bar like a knee bar or anything. How you going to slide your elbow past that? You know, it's a weird [ __ ] look when the guys wear the whole spandex and they have that steel cup. So, they got like a [laughter] big [ __ ] dick in their >> Shy Carter cup. >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] >> That's a Yel Romero. >> You remember? Yeah, right. Remember that Shonyy Carter? I think Eddie [ __ ] talked about it for the entire fight. It
15:23 was a King of the Cage fight and Shy was fighting and he had a giant cup on [laughter] and I swear Eddie just commentated about the size of the cup. It was hilarious. [laughter] >> Bro, in the taekwond do days they had ones you'd put on over your pants. So you put you'd have your ghee pants on and then you'd put these ones on over it and it had like this big strap. It go right up to your taint like right literally to your [ __ ] and then go all the way up like this and you would strap it in. But it was way better. It was way better cuz you had a boxing cup. >> No, it was a taco. It was just for taekwondo. It was just literally designed to wear outside of And that's when I realized like oh you can never wear regular cups. Like regular cups move too much. It's just sitting there and sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg when you get hit there. It's way worse.
16:09 >> And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory. >> 100%. If you have to wear a mouthpiece, why don't you wear compression shorts? Wear those like the diamond MMA ones. >> That's a cup I have. I like >> legit. Legit. And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine. You don't want to have dental floss up your [ __ ] [laughter] on. >> It's uncomfortable. But that's I would think if I was advising someone, I'd say get a [ __ ] steel cup before they outlaw it >> cuz they should have a long time ago. >> You should have to wear that though. I mean, it would it would eliminate all the nut shots. >> If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%. Somebody kicks you in the nuts, it'll hurt them more than hurts you. >> Like, it protects you from everything. >> It's uncomfortable. That's all it is. Just uncomfortable. So, >> I mean, so is fighting.
16:55 >> Yeah. Yeah. So is fighting. So is getting kicked in the nuts. Yeah. Dude, I can't believe it's legal. I really I It's like one of the How do you have steel in there? >> But I don't think anybody has a bunch of guys do. DC wore it every fight he had. >> Oh [ __ ] >> dude. It's You imagine a guy diving on a double and you [snorts] hip into him, >> man. >> You're slamming his face with your dick. Your dick [laughter] is in metal. >> Your dick's covered in metal. And that's legal. You have to have pads on your knuckles. Right. >> You have to have pads on your knuckles and you got an armor plate over your [ __ ] >> Yeah, I would I would definitely wear that if I was fighting. Yeah, [laughter] >> I'm selling them. >> Why not? I'm just selling them on my website
17:40 >> because it's like there's no way that should be legal. >> Yeah. >> Like how is that legal? >> I don't know. I >> It's [ __ ] metal. >> You're bringing metal into the equation. A foot can hit metal. A knee can hit. >> You can do that and no and the fact that no one does it. It's not well a few guys do it. We were talking about different guys who done it that that are currently doing it and I know DC did it but there's a few guys who still do it and we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts. I don't remember which guys he was pointing out but there's a few guys Kenny Florian always wore a steel cup >> but the fact that not everyone for sure% >> dang it's [ __ ] >> you here when Degrad starts talking Thai. >> No he speaks fluent Thai. Does he really? He's got that he's like a guinea
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19:57 have assigned coaches and he would just work with us like anytime we needed him. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? He was great and he would let us tackle them and [ __ ] mount them and [ __ ] you know what I mean? As well. >> Yeah. He's great, Mark. He's a good >> He's a really good coach, too. You know who who was really impressive working with him was Kevin James. >> You know Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the king of queens. He worked with Mark a lot and Kevin's been my friend for years and I but I really hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit hit paths with Delegrad. I was like >> what the [ __ ] dude. I'm like that's good. Like this looks good. >> Marco make you look good. Marco make a good [ __ ] coach man. He's a really solid coach. >> Gave Longo a black eye. [laughter] He sparred one time with Longo. Uh Kevin J. was walking around like [ __ ] Petey
20:43 from the Little Ras. [laughter] >> That's awesome. He's a He's a deceptively fast dude. >> Yeah, he's athletic, you know, for big dude. >> When I first met him, he was jacked. Like he was like he wasn't as big as he got at one point in time, but he's always kind of seesawed back and forth, but he was a karate guy. >> He was always doing karate when he was younger. >> Yeah, he's super athletic. >> There he is. >> It doesn't look as good there. [laughter] >> I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly. But he had he was he had Delgate staying with him a while and Delicate was training him. >> Yeah, I saw him in Kill Cliff just like blending in with the guys like he wasn't like standing out. He was just at Killcliffe training. Yeah, blending in with the guys. He's a great guy. I've known him forever. >> I just seen him in either Becky or the Wrath of Becky.
21:28 >> Oh yeah, that's not a bad show. >> He plays a psycho >> and the girl in it is great. It's like the girl is like a little psycho girl. >> That's a fun movie. >> It's fun. really fun. I think it's the first one called Becky and he plays a villain. He plays uh >> um the other guy that did it was Joel McCale. >> Joel Male played the the second psycho in one of the other movies. I forget was either the first or the second one. >> I think he's in the second one, The Wrath of Becky. >> Kevin was awesome. >> These are good. These are good movies. >> Kevin played a good psycho. >> Hey, did you ever see the the Night of the Seven Kingdoms? >> No, I haven't seen that yet. I'm telling you. I'm going to watch it though because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of game the first year the first all Game of Thrones. >> What? You're doing it over? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, you've seen it already? >> But I haven't seen it since like 2015 or
22:15 11. >> It's [ __ ] amazing. I forgot so much. >> It's [ __ ] awesome. >> This you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones cuz this takes place 90 years before the first events of the Game of Thrones. >> Sir Duncan the Tall and it is so good. So well done and it's based on the novel I'm a [ __ ] nerd. I I read the graphic novel of it by uh George RR Martin. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I read it back in the day and it was it's so great >> and you know how they have like trial um by combat. >> Yeah. >> In this one, not to give everything away, but he this guy gets into it and he has to do a trial by seven. So it's seven on seven nights. Y >> and it's like one of those thing. He's a hedge knight. It's it's [ __ ] really good. What I like about it is >> Did you ever watch the House of the
23:01 Dragon? >> Yes. >> It's a lot of cool [ __ ] >> but there's no one to root for. They're a bunch of pricks. Who's one's worse than the other? >> I mean, back in in Game of Thrones, Jon Snow, we had, you know, um Ned Stark doing even some guys that are, >> you know, even just great characters and some guys that are on like the Hound who's do like the anti-hero. But with this one, it's just a [ __ ] good solid dude trying to do the right thing. Y >> and uh and he and by trying to do the right thing, he gets into, you know, into some trouble and it's just it gives you like it's like >> like being righteous and have like real heroics like you know what I mean? Like some [ __ ] that that's missing nowadays because it's all about getting a [ __ ] message in there or making [ __ ] diverse
23:47 which I love though. >> [laughter] >> Stop. You know what's really funny about that? >> Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones was like a feminist series >> if you if you really think about it. >> I mean, really was >> but but without any fanfare. Like no bringing it up. No one paid attention to it. But the baddest people on that show were the women. Cersei Lannister was the baddest [ __ ] in the world. Ara Stark [ __ ] killed everybody. Santa kept it together through all that [ __ ] Brianna of Tar [ __ ] everybody up, including the hounds. The most feminist. >> Yes. And you got Daenerys, the queen of dragons, who's the baddest [ __ ] on earth. You literally can't burn her. And she's got three dragons.
24:34 >> It's a feminist series. [laughter] I didn't even realize it. It is. It's a completely feminist series, but without >> It never even crosses. >> Doesn't cross your mind cuz it's so good. You don't care. It's not It's not like dumb. It's You have to watch that Dean. >> No, I Yeah. And House of Dragons is the same way, >> right? Like there's some of these like Star Wars movies where it's all women generals and you're like, "Shut the [laughter] [ __ ] up. Shut the [ __ ] up." >> And all the men are scared of them and they all like get out of the room. Like this is fiction, right? This is nonsense. >> Even though that's obviously fiction, [clears throat] too. It's way better. >> A lady that has dragons, the hottest [ __ ] around, she's got dragons. She she [ __ ] a bunch of killers. >> She brings them into her bed. >> Well, because they do a good job of making [laughter]
25:20 barbarians. >> Well, they do such a good job of making them flawed that you don't even realize that they are the baddest [ __ ] in the world, but they're so but they're flawed in a way where it's like it makes them human. >> Yeah. >> I mean, look at Cersei Lannister. All of her kids gone. That [ __ ] survives. She's got a giant demon that watches over her, right? Like >> she's in love with her brother. She [ __ ] her brother and [laughter] her brother. Remember when she had the Well, I don't spoiler alert when she had that uh the the priest that tortured her while she was in the cell when they finally got her. >> Yeah. >> And she's like, "I'm ready to meet my maker." She's like, "Oh, you're not going to die today." >> And then the [laughter] [ __ ] >> Oh my god. [laughter]
26:05 >> Oh, dude. >> That was such a horrifying scene. >> It was such a great show, though. Is there a better like world universe than that? No one was safe on that show. You never knew the the biggest character could just get [ __ ] merked at like the next episode. >> Pedro Pascal that played that was his character when he got killed by Prince Ador. >> First of all, I never thought they would kill him. Like that guy's an important character. He's bringing all this new life to the show and all a sudden you see the mountain get his knuckles into that guy's eyeballs and crushes. That was so crazy. Holy [ __ ] That was like one of the most disturbing murder scenes you've ever seen in your life. >> And he was doing great. He was taking a [ __ ] out of him. He got too cocky. >> Worked him over. >> Thought he had him. >> You raped her. You murdered her. You
26:52 killed our children. Some [ __ ] like that. He kept repeating it. >> Yeah. And strutting around with the mountains on his back. >> They are. [cough] What a crazy show. Such a good show. One of the greatest shows of all time. >> I'm telling you, you got to text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms cuz it's all out. You could binge it. to it as soon as we're done with this. We're on like season seven now. >> Six episodes >> and each each episode's like 30 minutes. >> You run through it. >> The House of Dragons never really dragged me in. >> It did. It was interesting. You know, it was like I liked it, >> but it wasn't the same thing. >> Definitely not. This I think this the new one is in my opinion better. I thought >> Oh, the C the seven kingdoms. >> There's parts in it that just get you GOING LIKE [ __ ] YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. Hell yeah. I'm looking forward to I
27:37 [clears throat] hope they lengthen it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Six half hour episodes. >> But I love the relationship between the kid and the whole show, right? One thing I did love about House of Dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon. >> Oh, that was cool. >> And they brought all those people down there to test them. [laughter] >> You have to have some Targaryen blood. And a lot of the Targaryenss [ __ ] a lot of regular people. So they were searching for Targaryen blood, just taking people out of the pub and just push them in front of the track. That [laughter] was crazy. >> She first they asked the uh one of the king's guard like you know we tracked you back to whatever and he's like oh it's a great honor. No, I want to do it. Yeah, buddy. Careful what you wish for, [ __ ] >> That scene was [laughter] herself. >> That scene was nuts, >> dude. The red the red wedding. [ __ ] that was the craziest [ __ ] ever.
28:23 >> You couldn't believe it was happening while it was happening. Like this can't >> cuz they were taking everybody happening. This can't be happening. Did you hate the ending as much as as everybody? >> I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like they had to tie it up and like nice bow. You know, I would have been almost better if it was like no country for old men style ending. >> I think all all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards, right? >> You don't have to tie it in 12. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Once it got past the books, it took a hit. >> Yeah. >> Well, that guy's a genius. I mean, the the world that guy created and the complexity of all the characters like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister and >> Oh my god, good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, man. I mean, that guy was so [ __ ] good, man.
29:09 >> They're already doing the the uh Sworn Sword, which is the second book of uh Game of Thrones of uh the Dunkin Egg Tales. >> Oh, nice. >> Awesome. >> That's that's his writing, too. >> That's his Yeah, he did another one. >> He did [clears throat] three books. It was uh a night of the seven kingdoms which they just did. They're going to do a sworn sword and then it's the mystery night. I don't know anything but I know a lot of Game of Thrones [ __ ] [laughter] >> Don't ask me about >> Game of Thrones and Star Wars. You're my go-to. >> The world's so [ __ ] up. You're way better off with that stuff in your head. >> That's why I do it, man. It's such an escape, man. Just to sit home and watch TV. >> That's all I do, man. Sit home and watch TV. >> Speaking of Star Wars, I got a a text out of nowhere from uh from George St. Pierre. He loves it as much as me. Oh yeah, >> it was just about the new Darth Maul
29:55 animated series. >> Oh no, he [laughter] I swear to God. >> And then he gave me back a report. He told me he's like, "Oh, it's so far so good." This >> I told you my brother My brother's like, "I know Matt's in Star Wars. Tell him watch the new Darth Maul." You know, Jamie says, >> "It's fun." I I love George. He's He's the best. >> I have the hardest time convincing people who he is. It's hilarious. What do you mean? Like when people when he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA, they're like, "What does your friend do?" I go, "That is one of the [laughter] greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth." >> You're like, "No, for real." I go, "Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time." >> And he's like, "Hello, nice to meet you." [laughter] He just seems so sweet and friendly. >> Man, that's the problem with MMA is that like you have to convince people about
30:40 how bad somebody was. And it wasn't that long ago. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the [ __ ] greatest of all time. >> No, it wasn't that long. >> And now, but the fans are so new that you they don't get it. They don't go back and watch it. >> They had to watch like go back and watch the John Fitch fight. >> Oh man, >> prime GSP. Prime. He was terrifying. >> Incredible gas tank. Great flow between grappling and striking. You very creative. >> He put that [ __ ] together the best. That's why he had such success taking everybody down. Like his he would set it up his level change and he always he ran through every takedown. It was never he was going to run you across the cage. >> George was phenomenal. And then I think Farasah Hobby was a big part of that too. Farasah Hab is a bad [ __ ] >> Yeah, he's smart.
31:26 >> You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns of >> sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's incredible. >> Very astute. He's so knowledgeable of the game of every aspect of it. You know, >> his brother is doing well. >> Yeah. His brother's fighting at the White House. >> He's fighting Shaun Ali and I think people are sleeping on him. >> Well, listen, he keeps winning. >> Yeah, >> he keeps [ __ ] winning. the the one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo. Remember Aldo almost had >> I don't Yeah, for sure. I'm not sure he won that fight because I think they're not being generous enough with the 108s in the 107s. >> They don't do it enough. >> Not enough. There's When a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious, you know, like that that means a lot. I hate the fact that they
32:12 don't use it enough all because like Dana was like, "Oh, I don't like it." >> And now the judges are just like, "No, we can't do it because >> listen, the scoring system sucks because we stole it from boxing. It's not it doesn't have enough points >> for sure. >> It should be like a you should get like a certain amount of points for different things, but it would be really hard to calculate >> because it would be have to be subjective. Like if Pereira hits you, it's way harder than if someone's like, you know, Paul Craig, like no disrespect, but you know what I'm saying, the consequences are very different. So if he hits you with a left hook, it's different than if Pereira hits you with a left hook. So that's subjective. But in terms of like what happens in the fight, you should be counting in submission attempts. You should be counting in takedown attempts, like who was more aggressive, who is
32:57 more defensive, who who's implemented their STR. You should have like a 100 points to work with. >> Absolutely. cuz he got 10 points. Why are we only using two of them? It's nine and a 10. Why? >> It don't make any [clears throat] sense cuz there's 10 nine rounds that are like uh could be anybody. And there's 10 N rounds where he dominated. >> That's well see like UFC BJJ uses that and it works better for that because they're very liberal with the 108s and 107s. They use it a lot. They're like if it's if it's close it's a 109. If it's one-sided it's automatically a 108. >> So they use more sense. >> That does make more sense. But even in BJJ, I would say you'd need more points. You need like it's like the difference between a 7030 round where a guy's dominating you 70% of the time and a
33:43 5149 round is [ __ ] huge. >> It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all. So like you could win a 109 round in the first round where it's like you're barely ahead like maybe I'll give it to you and then the second round that dude [ __ ] you up and he gets a 109 round cuz you didn't go down. >> Yeah. But he's headkicking you and you're blocking it. You're getting teepped. Your legs are getting kicked all the time. It's still a 10- nine round. That's some That's nuts. No, >> just because you didn't go unconscious, just cuz you didn't get knocked down. >> I think it's my ADD's kicking in. But we're talking about the close calls, close scoring. I thought Aljo >> I thought he should have got that nod against [ __ ] >> I thought so too. I thought I didn't think there was >> the guy got on one reversal at the end
34:29 like a minute 30 left and Aljo was winning that whole first round. >> Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert. >> He could be undefeated at 140. >> He's a nightmare because if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with Aljo, you got problems. >> That dude gets your back. He's got >> he's got >> I mean him and 10 108 round like he was just on his back dominated round and they don't and no how is that not a 108 round? He's fighting Yousef uh Salon, I said. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yousef's allowed. And that's on the 25th of April. But I mean, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this. >> Yeah. >> Did Did Aljo over Yan in the second fight, was that like the best anybody's ever done with Yan? >> Yeah. No doubt. >> His control is just so good when it hits the floor. That's the difference between him and Morav. Morav keep getting you
35:15 down and up, down, up. Aljo hits the floor. >> Yeah. You're not even He just needs back exposure. He's one of those some guys they can't jump up on the back. It's not good for them. They're going to get tired, dude. All day long he'll just go up there, lock that [ __ ] on, and [laughter] if he doesn't get you, that's his round. Like he's the Sanhagen fight was what a masterpiece. Masterpiece. >> His grappling is so so good. >> Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit. >> No, his back takes some of the best in the in the sport, period. >> Man, they're not a big fan of his. They don't push I I feel SUCH A [laughter] NICE GUY. >> I KNOW. He does everything right. I think it's the one fight with the neck that was I think that was turned everybody against him. >> Those people are wrong. But look what happened was [ __ ] up. Look what happened in the seconded.
36:01 >> I mean he should have validated the entire thing by whooping his ass in the second fight. >> But they had already decided they hate him stuck on it. They already he had to get his [ __ ] disc replaced. It was real. It was a real [ __ ] injury. >> He should be he could be un he could be a two-time champ a double division champ. I mean, he's in my mind, he's undefeated at 145. Look what he did to Calvin Kedar, which was Calvin Kater is a beast. But >> it was, if you didn't know Calvin Kater, if that's your first fight seeing him, you' be like, "Oh, that guy doesn't belong here," which he obviously does. He's a beast. >> But Ala was masterful. >> He know what it is. He's good at not getting hit. So it's like he's not giving you that back and forth cuz and and Longo says you've seen 20% of what he could do stand up and standing up like I'd ask him something with his He's
36:46 like he could put his foot wherever he wants it like about a kick or something. He's he's just really really talented man. I hope he gets his shot if he takes out uh you know uh Yousef. I hope he they give him a shot again cuz I think he could be a two-time champ. >> He Well, listen, he's still a bad [ __ ] like he's [clears throat] he's a nightmare for everybody, >> especially if he gets a hold of you. But I mean, >> people look at the one fight losses. They look at the Shawn Ali fight. Like Shawn caught him perfect. That's just how >> And you know, he his head wasn't really in that cuz he didn't even want to be there. >> Nope. >> Why didn't he want to be there? >> He fight They made him fight that fight. He didn't want to fight. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They they did like a whole documentary on it where it was like they they they kind of twisted his arm to
37:31 like you got to do this and they were >> injured. I think he was injured. >> There was a quick turnaround. It was too quick a turnaround. He's the champ. He didn't feel he should be forced into, >> you know, >> but he thought the number he thought they he thought the pay-per-view numbers was going to make up for it. He thought he's going to get all this money from it because he was like, "All right, I'll do it. Sean Ali is going to bring in the numbers." Then he said when it was over, he saw the numbers. He was like, "If I knew the numbers was going to be like this, I don't think I'd have did it." >> Yeah. Really? >> Yeah. >> So, it didn't do well. >> It didn't do as well as he thought he was going to do based on Shawn Ali's presence. >> Listen, man. It It takes a lot to get people to pay for something today. There's too much money to steal it. >> This Paramount thing is genius in that regard is that all you have to do is
38:17 have that app, which a lot of people have already anyway. >> Yeah, >> that's genius. But to make people pay every time to to watch fights, like there's so much to watch today. >> Well, that Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me. They was like, "It's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight." >> Yeah. >> Like you can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you paying you to fight. >> So, it's a big difference. >> It's a giant difference. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a giant difference. >> I like that it's on Paramount as a fan, though. >> Save save you a ton of money. I pay I used to pay for every one of them. This Netflix thing is nice, too. It's good to see that there's like someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, you know, like Netflix. >> What do you do, guys? Cheetah vers
39:02 Ronda. >> I I think round one submission Ronda. >> Yeah. >> Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I don't know what Gan has been doing, you know. I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all. You know, >> she was recently a little heavy. I can say that. She'll be great now. >> Does she look great now? >> Look, she got in great shape. >> She got in great shape. >> She's still like 43 years old. >> No, but the question is like what was she doing in those? Was she still training some? That would be my real question because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I got to go. I mean, but with the with the weight loss, with the weight gain that she had, there was no way she was training or doing anything. That's what I'm saying.
39:48 Like, she's back in shape and she obviously is busting her ass to do that. But how long, like you're saying, was she down >> and she has to develop a a a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever. No, Ronda's leg. Her only hope is to keep it on the street. >> Guard on her and I sweep. She would pull guard and sweep her or arm lock her. Her arm locks her. Her arm locks are amazing. Her arm locks are amazing. >> They're preposterous, >> you know. I think there's too many >> dude or chick. Her arm bars. >> Remember that cat zingo fight? Cat charged at her. Cat threw her. That was the craziest. >> Got her an arm bar like instantaneous. Stupid strategy that was. [laughter] >> Yeah, she blanked out on that one. >> So crazy. That was such a sick transition, too. No, but I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that
40:34 was kind of recent and it did not look good. >> How recent was it doing? >> I don't know. I don't know. But it didn't look good. I was just like, >> it's hard to tell. >> I hope it's I hope this is older. >> She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something. >> But also, it's also what were they doing? Were they just working on slow motion [ __ ] Were they just trying to get a movement or were they getting in a hard mitt workout? You know what I'm saying? I mean, either way, like just like mechanically it didn't look great >> mechanically. So, I mean, but it could have been it's like one of them things where like this could be like her her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up. But, who knows? I mean, you know, who knows? Maybe she's Who knows? You just never know. I hope so. Yeah. I hope it's better than that. Round one submission. >> I mean, probably probably right. >> I mean, come on. I bet you know, if you
41:19 had Poly Market, you can make some money on that, right? >> [laughter] >> just like there's going to be a lot of bets on that. It's uh it's it's exciting though that that Netflix is doing it. That's what I like. I like that there's another place people can go. >> It'll raise. >> But how sustainable is this though? That's my biggest question. >> Whoever's putting the money up for this is going to lose their ass. I think you think they're going to make that money back, >> right? But here's the thing. It's Netflix, >> right? So Netflix has an insane amount of money and they keep raking it in. Like every month people are paying whatever they're paying. It's as high as like what 19 bucks for ad free. What is it? How much is a Netflix account now? >> I want to say it's higher. >> I think it just went up, right? Yeah. >> So going all that money is just coming in every month. They just got to give people exciting things to want to watch
42:06 and they'll keep making more money because more people use Netflix. Like it would seem like they're going to lose their ass, but they're not >> because they have a completely different business model. Obviously I'm not a businessman. $8.99 to 26.99 per month. I'm a ter I'm in fact I'm a terrible businessman. But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome [ __ ] so they keep tuning into Netflix. So in that sense they're not going to lose any money because there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they can watch that fight, >> right? >> So who's on the card now? It's like Felipe Lind versus Inanu. >> Yeah. Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz, >> right? >> Oh, and Robelis to Spain. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh Junior Dos Santos. >> That one. That one is like
42:51 >> Who's it? >> Roella Desp. >> That tall karate combat dude. >> He's a taekwond do black belt from Cuba. >> Wait, was Junior? >> Yeah. How old's Junior? >> He's 50 [clears throat] now. >> Is he 50? >> No, [laughter] he's close. But he's in good shape. I actually did a We spoke at a high school a couple of months ago. Yeah. >> I'm glad to hear that. >> I mean, at least these guys get an outlet to make some extra money. >> Yeah, man. And who doesn't Adriana Moray is a you know that's a Mogay is probably going to school him but I mean it's they got some they're giving guys some opportunity so you got to like this. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It'll be a big show. A lot of people will tune in. Diaz and Perry's going to be [ __ ] bananas. That'll be really fun to watch. >> Yeah, that's I mean that'll be worth the price of admission. Imagine if that was
43:37 10 years ago. That fight would be >> I'm looking [laughter] at this. It's like if the GLA went to [ __ ] it came came true. [ __ ] remember that grandpa [laughter] league that was not everybody. >> It just stole all their talent, >> bro. Diaz versus Perry. Guaranteed dog fight. >> Just a guaranteed dog fight. That will not be >> Who do you think wins? >> I think the jiu-jitsu is going to be too much. I think >> I kind of think that too. I kind of think Nate might just drag him deeper, right? >> I think we're going to see. You know, we're going to see. >> Oh, it's five rounds. Five rounds. >> That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I wonder why they agreed on that. >> Interesting. >> Why do you think they agreed? >> I didn't realize that. >> Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds? >> Three. When they first announced it said five by five for everything, but they've
44:22 changed a bit. >> So, it says five. >> Yeah, just for those two though. This one does not. >> And it also says these are the main event. >> I mean, I can't imagine five rounds. >> Well, actually, it does. There it does. It says it real. It's hard to see it. >> Yeah. 5x5 professional. Yeah. Okay, >> bro. Loren Larkin back in the day. >> I remember he fought Neil Magny. Was hitting him with oblique kicks to the chest and I was like, I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way. >> You ever see that fight? >> No, I don't remember that fight. >> He tuned Neil Magny up and Loren Larkin was a bad [ __ ] >> I do remember that. Like he had he had a good little run. He was so his striking was elite. Yeah. >> And he would he when he fought Neil Magny, he you know Neil Magny's a tough [ __ ] dude, man. Durable. Incredible
45:09 discipline and endurance. Like that dude's never out of shape. >> And he was just getting too Look at this. >> I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs. That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier before that, he caught him on the rib cage with it. Look at that. Look at that, bro. That's crazy. >> He gave him a spot. Damn. >> That's the second look at it. But right here, you're seeing him. He's blasting him with this >> kick that nobody throws like that. That's a crazy position to put your hips in. >> That is crazy, >> bro. He's He was sharp. >> How did this one end? >> He stopped him. >> Oh, did he? >> Yeah. >> Oh [ __ ] >> Yeah. Loren was all over him, man. It was a like one of the prime performances that I've seen of him fight.
45:55 >> Yeah, he had a good little run. He had a great a great run but in during that run and this was like he came from Bellator right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And when he came over from Bellator it's like he was still like red hot like red hot. >> Some Yeah. Two guys that were in Bellator which is uh Pit Ball and Aaron Pico. >> They're getting ready to fight in this weekend. >> How much time do you think a guy like Pico is supposed to take off after Lrone? >> We we were just talking about that cuz I love his offense man. And he's a little raging bull >> animal >> and strong powerful. >> He just got caught. And he got caught perfect. I mean, it was just perfect. That spinning elbow. >> I think he got stopped more than Did he get stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that? >> Yeah. Best fight ever. >> You don't want to go through your >> The kid from um Kill Cliff. >> Uh Adam Bur.
46:42 >> Adam Burks. >> Yeah, he got him with a flying knee. >> With a flying knee. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Damn, dude. You don't want too many of those. >> That's right. >> But those put him out, man. Like you just see him just go boop. >> Yeah. That Macy Barber won the other day. >> Oh, dude, that was >> one of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history. >> Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to Macy cuz I felt so bad. I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, "What [laughter] the [ __ ] are you think?" He's just over like a [ __ ] [laughter] >> So crazy. >> Yeah. He's like I'm LIKE, "GET SOME SMELL." I'M LIKE, "Somebody the cameraman please get off this or somebody talk to the doctor cuz I don't know what the fuck." He was just over like, "Man, this is [ __ ] up. >> [laughter] >> I don't think he knew exactly what was going on. He probably has no experience in combat sports, right? He didn't realize that she got knocked out and
47:28 while she was out cold, she got strangled. >> She transitioned so fast. >> Like, she's out there. She's out cold already and then she gets strangled. Like, that's never happened before. >> What's crazy is she was >> Look at the way he kind of still reacting and then when they put her on her back, she just it was >> she went limp as she was trying to sit up. She went limp. You see right there? like she was trying to get up and then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp, >> dude. >> See, there's like there's uh sea level Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa. When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous. >> Then this confused doctor, [laughter] >> right? Never seen this before. >> Hey, >> crazy. >> Look at him. >> Right. He's like >> crazy is just Well, she's kind of coming
48:14 too there. I think she's blinking. >> But that was just >> Holy [ __ ] >> Why? And the speed that she took her back. Left hand boop back choke. Amazing. One shot while she was out. Still cracked her again. Got her back and choked her all like a lightning bolt. >> That was super. >> But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her. >> I feel like five minutes with us sitting there. >> Left hand. Boom. Took her back. Took her a while. It took her longer. But look at this. >> So she's in trouble. Bam. Right there. Out cold and then strangled. >> I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before. >> No, >> cuz I mean she seen Watch this punch here. That's out cold, right? And then boom.
49:00 >> Sick. Now that's crazy. >> Crazy. >> Wow. >> She's tough, man. >> Fall backwards in front of you after the knockdown, you know. >> Well, so here's the thing. She gets up and when she gets up I think she faints. Like I think she tries to get up >> and then he Mike puts his arm around her and she's out. >> I think she fainted. >> That's just scary. >> That's scary. And she also had had some problems before with seizures. >> Yeah. >> She had to pull out of that fight with uh Aaron Blanchfield. Seizure in the locker room, right? >> So they allow they still allow her to fight even though she's had seizures. That's pretty crazy. Well, it depends on what's causing the seizures, right? If they know it's a medication that she was on to get her off the medication. Like,
49:46 there's I don't know what causes seizures. >> Well, that shit's not going to help the seizures. >> But it certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting, right? It would have to [ __ ] with your motivation if you're already having seizures. >> I wouldn't want to do it. I >> Now, now after that, >> I wouldn't want to do it. >> Anytime you fight, that's a possibility. Y >> and he I mean look at a guy who never once looked >> took anything remotely like that like um Camaro man >> and even in a fight where he's just doing so great and then that's the closest thing I seen to that which is when he got stopped with that head kick. >> Yeah. >> And you know that's a possibility anytime you make that walk. >> That's why you got that [ __ ] little feeling in your you know before you walk out there. The
50:32 Camaro one was nuts too because John Anick was just saying because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation and John Anick said something along the lines of but that is not the cloth from which >> I know and then as soon I mean that was like the most perfect timing ever. like a movie like it was if you saw that in a movie like shut up >> cuz I had [laughter] just I had just came in and was like yeah I think he's broke >> and then DC was saying it and then John intervened with he's not cut from that cloth and boom head kick. It was nuts. >> What is that new Russell Crow's doing a new MMA movie? >> Is that Is that going to be Is that supposed to be the UFC? >> No, I think 1FC. Yeah. They did it with >> Yeah. I wonder if that's going to be >> Yeah. But I mean like the who's the
51:17 fighter is like my age. I'm like yo what's going on here? >> Maybe >> coming back. Like Randy Couture won the title in his 40s, you know. >> Yeah, man. >> One has some wild striking fights, man. Some of the absolute best standup fights in the world are happening on one. I watch it all the time. >> I never know when that shit's on. When is that on? Where are you watching? >> There's this [ __ ] cat out of Dagistan. Do you guys know who I'm talking about? Asodoula Imangazalv. Bro, this dude is uh I think he's 135 lbs. I think that's what he fights at. And he's like 6'1 and just a laser beam striker. Just [ __ ] people up. Like literally might be the best striker in the world. >> Is it just kickboxing? >> Yeah. And he's getting in there with Muay Thai. He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KOing
52:04 them. Like threetime world Lupini Muay Thai champions. >> Damn. >> Lupini stadium guys. This guy is a [ __ ] straight killer, dude. And he's from Dagistan and he can wrestle. >> Damn. >> You gotta Let's see if you can find like a highlight reel of his KOs because this is just like Get on YouTube and find >> shot was nasty. >> This I watch this cat every time he fights. I just can't. He's so [ __ ] accurate and he's so slick. >> How old is he? >> He's 22. >> Oh, damn. >> Yeah, man. I'm telling you, this 22year-old cat from Dagistan might be the best striker on earth right now. This dude is so impressive. And I'm telling you, he's doing this to dudes who are world champions. >> Oh, >> he's taking out world champion
52:49 kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai fighters. They're putting him in there with these [ __ ] assassins. And he he's making them all go night night. >> Oh, damn. >> Oh, >> bro, you got to see it in real speed like like you see his real movements. It's so impressive. >> Is he withhabib and emo? I don't know where he's trained in, but he's from Dagistan, >> bro. >> He looks like Zabit. >> Yes. Like a like a little bit more robust Zabit. >> Robust, >> but it's like it's different. Like Zabit had more of a you know, he had an incredible style, but it was almost like more taekwond do-ish. This guy's pure Muay Thai, but he just [ __ ] people up, man. >> Accurate, too. >> Oh, he's spin spinning heel kicks, everything. Knee the body. But it's it's the combinations, the way he's throwing them. He just finds these openings on
53:35 people with this precision that you're like "Motherfucker man." >> He keeps the pressure on. >> He keeps the pressure on, too. >> He just flatlined folks >> one after another, flatlining people, >> man, >> bro. He's very [ __ ] impressive. And again, very impressive against world championship caliber Muay Thai fighters. >> These are not scrubs that he's fight. Damn. And one's putting these fights on all the time. And I was trying to tell Dana this. I was like, if you guys had like UFC striking, do you know how [ __ ] exciting that would be if just Muay Thai with MMA gloves on? >> Well, they should do that. They do the BJ now 100%. They're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground. Boo. >> These guys never go to the ground,
54:21 >> right? >> It's just all >> And kickboxing is so much more brutal than than boxing. >> Way more brutal. >> It just didn't get a fair shake in America. >> It's not that it's not exciting. It's the most exciting aspect of the UFC other than a great submission like Alexa Graco after a knockout. That's like the most exciting. [laughter] >> Hey, this episode is brought to you by Visible. Let's be honest, wireless can feel like a world of traps, expensive bills, tacked-on fees, and promises that just don't hold up. You start to feel stuck. Don't fall for the trap. Escape to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. Get unlimited data and hotspot powered by Verizon. One line for just $25 a month. Taxes and fees included. Get
55:06 great coverage and a reliable connection with Visible. Plus, for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just $20 a month for one year using code fresh start. Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers subject to change. See visible.com for plan features and network management details. >> I could People [ __ ] about Commot. I could watch him do that to Draus all day long. I don't give a [ __ ] I That's masterful. >> Masterful. >> Get him off you. People like, "Oh, that's a shame." And he doesn't take chances. Dude, get He's He's not like He's not trying to beat the [ __ ] out of him. He's getting him tied up and he's >> beating him up and he's just he's
55:52 working him over. I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the in a crucifix? Like, what are you talking about here? Yeah. I mean, that's Drius' problem. Like, Drius need to get them. Yeah. >> Yeah. 100%. And I don't I don't believe in standups at all. Period. >> I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls. >> If someone does a foul and then you have to stand it up, take a point away from them, maybe then you stand them up. >> Yeah. Like you can't you shouldn't reward a guy for having like [ __ ] defense. >> If the dude on the bottom is the one that failed, put them back where they were. Don't reward. [laughter] Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Definitely. But other than that, why are you letting people stand up? >> Why? Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground. Maybe he's taking a break
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