0:00 Modern medicine is for when there is an emergency, alternative treatments for health relief or concern, there is no such thing as alternative medicine, scientific medicine is pseudo-science, and when fraudsters like this try to exploit this with superficial knowledge , the problem arises. Is it thousands of years old or 100 years old? Can you tell me which allopathic medicine has no side effects? The problem here is the lack of health education in the society. The biggest problem is that if you look at it globally, even DABA has said that traditional medicine should be promoted as alternative medicine. Ayurveda! Welcome to the discussion
0:49 forum of 24 to all dear viewers. You are going to watch Gopula Jima Tamil, Tamil by SKN. As we know, the field of modern medicine has grown a lot. But there are many campaigns going on on social media now. Many falsehoods and falsehoods are being spread. With so much hype being spread about the side effects, it is a time when many people are abandoning modern treatments and often seeking refuge in traditional treatments and even fake doctors. So, this debate seeks to find out whether the path taken by people seeking alternative treatments is correct or
1:35 not. The participants in this discussion are: Kenichira Dr. Prasad ( Wellness Sub-Managing Director), Dr. Prasad MV (Yoga and Naturopathic Specialist), Dr. Jacob Atakancheri Vaidyaratnam, C M Jamaluddin Moulavi, Pranihealer Trainer Vidyavi, Paranormal Researcher and Spiritual Healer Binoy John, Functional Medicine and Ozone Therapy Practitioner Dr. Febin Rony, State President of Acupressure Science Association Dr. Abdul Gafoor, Former Director of National Institute of Naturopathy Dr. Babu Joseph, Chief Physician of Pattambi Medicine Unani Hospital Dr. Abdul Wahabsi, Former RMO of Manjeri Medical College Dr. Sahir Nelliparamban, Essence Global Speaker
2:20 Praveen Ravi, Independent Thinker Liakathatli, Former State Secretary of Ayurvedic Medical Association of India Dr. Siri Suraj, Science Communicator Shabu Prasad, The Institution of Homeopathy Kerala State General Secretary Dr. Hari Vishwajith, Muvattupuzha Atrayuta Ashram Mutt Chief and RE Human Foundation Chairman Swami Gurusree, Journalist R. Sivashankara Pillai, Pazanji MD College Principal Dr. Thomas Mathew. Dr. Jacob Adakanchery How many years have you been in the medical field? I have been for about 45 years now. So, it is a treatment that is dependent on nature. Have you ever felt that you have made a mistake in your life? No, it would have been better to go a little more towards modern science. No, no, no.
3:08 Every day we are becoming more and more aware of its dangers and ineffectiveness. Every day, one drug is banned. Every treatment method is changed. New ones are introduced. That too is later corrected. So, one weakness or ineffectiveness of it is still in the mind of Kerala. In fact, all these traditional methods are still remembered. It has only been 20-30 years since the Malayalis denied all that and fled to this commercial medicine, a part of commercial medicine, with the idea that it is a science. But what the Malayalis got from there is constantly more torture. More diseases.
3:55 Every drug has five or eight diseases. An environment where its doors are open . Because I understand the Malayalis, now the Malayalis are turning back to those old methods. You are denying this modern medicine as a blanket. Never. No, never. Do you accept surgery here? Only in emergencies. In fact, unnecessary surgeries are actually the most feared by most people in this field of medicine today. What has been done is unnecessary medicines, unnecessary surgeries, unnecessary tests, in a good India, 60 million people are being wasted on treatment that should bring them below the poverty line. So, today allopathic treatment has become a big center of exploitation of people. In
4:45 fact, what we are opposing is not modern medical science, what I am saying is that modern medical science is opposing pharmaceutical science, the pharmaceutical industry. Okay, I will come, sir. Sir. Sir, what has started now is not the alternative medical system, but alternative treatment, that is, when we say alternative treatment as an alternative to allopathy and Ayurveda, I am someone who studied in a college where we studied MBBS and BHMS together . So, I studied the same syllabus there ; that is, there are only three different subjects in the subjects we study. We practiced in the same place for all the other subjects, including anatomy, physiology, etc. We have a gynecology post, a surgery post, a medicine post-we are all together here. We passed out together, studied the same medical college, studied the same subject, and then got a certificate from the same university. We follow the
5:31 same investigations and look at the prognosis of this. That is, if we say all the courses we study for five and a half years, then it does not fall under alternative. No, if it is a tree, we can say that that tree has five branches. If one of those five branches is allopathic, the remaining four are Ayush, the remaining five are Ayush-we can consider that branch. When we say alternative, it never seems to be a defiant Allopathic Ayurveda does not accept it. Allopathy accepts Ayurveda, Ayurveda does not accept allopathy, homeopathy does not accept it, and so on, that is a wrong thing. We are often not known in the general society. All the courses we study for these five and a half years have the same syllabus, only the medicine part, the only difference is the philosophy part. So at such a time, anatomy is correct, but isn't the theory of your medicine different? When we say theory, only the part we
6:17 call medicine is different, only the approach is different. One minute, ask. So many doctors, I have only one thing to ask. When a patient comes, a patient comes, you give medicine. On what basis do you give that medicine? You give medicine after studying the content of medicine properly. I can't say about homeopathy, let me mention that I don't know the rest. India lives in a great kingdom. So when we say that India is the law of the country, the IMCC Act is in Kerala, and the Kerala State Medical Practical Act is in Kerala. According to this, only those who have registered with the Medical Council and completed their medical education in accordance with the law and have registered with the Medical Council have the opportunity to engage in medical practice here. Otherwise, according to
7:03 the newly introduced law, the law provides for imprisonment of up to 10 years and a fine of up to ten lakh rupees. When we start discussing the legality of our medical practice, I will say one thing in front of everyone , because what they are doing is illegal, and that is not the point. Are we in a country? That's why I have to say, I said what I said, now when you say parallel medicine, parallel treatment, it's a big inconvenience for homeopaths here. I also oppose this parallel medicine. It's not the way he said it. It's scientifically proven science. That's the only
7:51 medicine based on it. The rest is not parallel. It's pseudoscience. Parallel science and science. Let me tell you about science, science, science, science, let me tell you how many types of treatments there are. There are 10 to 12 of us here. There is a group that says modern medicine. It's scientific and based on evidence, and then the observation of research and experiments. In this group, in this
8:39 group, there are those who study and practice modern science medicine. Those who study and practice modern science medicine. The rest are pseudoscience and then some, then some pure fraudsters. Three types of treatments: spiritual fraud, scientific treatment. One thing added, one thing added to what I said, one thing added, one thing added, that is, one thing added. Even homeopaths and Ayurveda say that they are not parallel, they are also a treatment plan that has been approved by them. They are talking according to the laws of the Indian government or the government. If we look globally in the world, even WHO calls it alternative medicine. If we say that, it has been legally approved in India. Therefore, it is not fair to
9:26 say that it is not parallel medicine. It has not said that it is not parallel medicine, (WHO) has said that traditional medicine should be promoted . Then one thing, one thing is also being said here by everyone; that is scientific, this is unscientific, scientific, unscientific, pseudo science-what is this stuff that says all this? What is science? What is scientific? Let me tell you. If we say science very, very simply, it is the decisions we make by observing things in the world, testing, doing experiments, and thinking using our human intelligence. Thousands of years, thousands of years, thousands of years,
10:13 thousands of years, implemented in the world, is it true, a hundred years? Let me tell you one more thing, he said earlier, didn't he mention the trial? Yes, the medicines given in the past have been eliminated today, the new ones are failures, that's why it is scientific. The reason is that the doctor asked a question. I have only one question for the doctor who asked a question. Can you tell me which allopathic medicine has no side effects? You have studied pharmacology, right? You have studied the side effects of it . If you take any medicine that has no side effects, it doesn't matter if you get stomach ache if you take a medicine for headache, you can accept that the
10:58 treatment has been scientifically proven. If you say that all this is a question that has been asked continuously for a long time, let me tell you. Let me tell you, let me tell you, when this discussion goes on like this, there is a doubt. What has been the effort or the effort itself to keep the people in the dark by creating a smokescreen of science. What has been achieved, how much people support it or stand by it, it is very accurate...Sir, let me tell you one thing? They only think that this modern medicine controls everything here, and everything else is its sub. I am Saroj Kumar, I don't care what I say; everyone else should accept it. What
11:45 they say is the only truth, that is what is going on. If we look at a treatment, a patient, a public, the most important thing for a patient is that their disease should be cured. If it is cured through a proven system, it is scientific, it is scientific. Let me give you an example. Sir, let me complete one thing; now 4000 children came to the homeopathy project called Janani. Its result, the result of an infertility case, 4000 children were given. In it, there are many government records on the condition (aspermia), I am just guessing. The government records checked this morning say that these children were born due to aspermia. According to modern science, according to science, will a person named Esuse Fermia have a child or not? Let me tell you one thing, so that
12:31 someone says that S. spermia is not treatable according to modern science. Let that doctor know whether it is true or not. There are temples where babies are born by tying the cradle, and there are temples where babies are born by tying the cradle; what is the difference between that and their treatment? You should not compare a scientific study like that, it is a scientific study. It is not new, it is not science, you can say that. You said it with your tongue, you said it with your tongue earlier: Science is formed through experiments, observations and experiences. You said, only the same science was applied there. It has not been scientifically proven in the modern world that the treatment method is effective. They say, they did it and
13:16 proved it. The question was with me, wasn't the question with me? If an S. spermia case that I answered is successful, then it is a lucky success. If it is, then we can say it is faith. Is an event where 4000 cases are successful faith, luck or science? What is the definition? I want to hear that. If a case comes up with sperm, what is the treatment according to science? If it is scientifically decided that he is not likely to become a father, should he believe in science and live his entire life without becoming a father, or should they have the luck of becoming a father by following a scientific system that you call unscientific? That's it. What is the definition of science that Princip gave ? If
14:03 we do an experiment and it succeeds 999 times and fails once, it is not science . It is not called science. Then what is science? If it works correctly 100 times out of 1000 times, we can define it by putting a mathematical formula for it. Only then can we accept it as pure science. Otherwise, if we do an experiment 100 times and say that it succeeds 95 times, it is statistics. It is not wrong. What is statistically correct is not scientifically correct. We have to ban some medicines. Often, we have modern science medicines, allopathic Ayurveda, and all these medicines. When we try these medicines, the
14:48 results we get as a result of that experiment are often based on experience, including Ayurveda. If they cause side effects in our experience, then it is science. When you say that the medicine is being banned, I don't agree with what you are saying. After three years, won't a medicine be banned after that year? What I want to say is, how is the medicine bad? I am the president of the Ayurveda Association, what I want to say is that I am a case filer of the Ayurveda Association. I am the one who is filing the case directly now. That is why I said what I wanted to say. What was the reason? No patient I have treated in my name has ever had an accident or an injury, no patient has ever filed a police complaint in a court or court in India. Yet they filed
15:36 a complaint in my name and asked the Kerala High Court to stop my treatment. What is the treatment? I have not taken any action yet, I want to know about that matter, please tell me, please tell me? A case has been filed in my name in Kerala and a case is being filed. What has someone done in my name ? Should I stop my treatment. Why should I stop it? 90%, 99%of the patients I have treated are my patients ...Let me ask you, if the case goes to court, let it go to court, if your side is right, let the court prove it, no, it's not what you said, it's not what you said, there's only one thing I disagree with about the
16:22 Ayurvedic side: they are prescribing medicines to people, they are doing treatment. I want to know that if I ask for a medicine in writing to challenge the doctor I am sitting with, he should be ready to tell me the content of that medicine. The content he is saying, he is on this subject...One thing, before answering this subject, whether Ayurvedic medicine is effective or not, before the dispute between them, the fact that he performed this next treatment had come up in social media and news, let me tell you. Let me tell you, its name is Jinn Mahalara. In Ayurveda, he asks what its content is for Dashamularishtam. One of the medicines he gave there is a banana. Is it a banana or a robusta? A
17:10 fruit cut by a jinn. That is, a jinn has come and done some special programs inside this fruit . I am saying that when this jinn peels this fruit, it comes in small pieces and round rim pieces like this. Appa jinn's operation. The jinn's operation costs Rs. 2500. The fruit. Yes, it didn't take a minute. There is a video. Let me tell you the full video. Let me tell you about an unscientific, immaterial subject. That's how I say it. The day after the 11-year-old child released this video, without any jinn, we put a small, four-inch needle and cut the fruit in the child's house and
17:56 put it inside. Do you understand? This is pure. As I said, there is no such thing as parallel medicine. Scientific medicine, pseudo-science and such fraudsters, this is the treatment here. I think he is saying one thing, here is one thing, one thing was said earlier. Sitting here and clubbing homeopathy, Unani, and AYUSH and putting it all together, this stuff is what creates all the conditions for this pseudo-science to be sold there. They will be taught the entire basis of the results of scientific research. There is one counterargument to that; it is not the AYUSH system, let me say. These are MBS doctors who do not practice modern medicine properly, let me say, what I
18:45 am saying is that they are creating a base of this basic scientific information for them. Then, using all this scientific jargon, all this technical terms, and using all the means of modern medical examination or our diagnosis, they give phlegm, feces, urine, what can I say, variations of this. Unani is sitting there. The topic has changed, the program that had a foundation should be stopped. He said a technique for cutting a fruit, it is viral on social media. It was shown even on SKN's channel, it has been shown even on this channel. The topic to be studied, you should have released that video in its
19:31 entirety. I said very clearly in that program. What did you say? There is a physical and immaterial activity going on here. Tell me, let me tell you the physical! What is physical? He cut the fruit with the thread he said. What he said about immaterial is that the jinn became a haller. Two are two. I said clearly again there. Again I said, what did you say? Tell me together, should I tell you, shouldn't I tell you? After showing this, I will explain again there on the same stage. Tell me, what did you say? This is you, this is physical, this can be done by anyone. Even though this jinn is here, you should not fall for such scams, you will find the person who bought 2500 today, who bought 2500 today, who bought 2500 today. Then what did I tell
20:18 him, when the program is over, give me that money, my son. Understand, let me finish it, just a minute. I am addressing it in the right way. I said you are in this kind of scam. Don't be a sidekick, you will be paid for the cardamoms, don't spend money like this and bid. I gave the money back to that guy, be happy. But, but what happened here? He only cut the fruit and made it go viral and humiliated it in the maximum possible way. Is there the rest of the video? The rest of the video should be mentioned, the video should be posted, did you say? Science, that
21:08 is, Ayurvedic medicines, said that the concentration in Ayurvedic medicines is not written. This is not the law of this country. You go and buy a Dashamularashta from the nearest medical shop, its concentration is written on it, otherwise you cannot upload it here. And another thing here, he said that it should be done using modern methods. Here he said, 70 percent of what a student who passes out of (BMS) studies is anatomy and physiology, even the same. And today, Ayurveda uses all kinds of lab tests, modern methods, scanning, MRI, all modern diagnostic systems. In the same
21:54 way, the efficacy is proven, all this is happening here. So, if Dr. Prasad does not do well, scientific or unscientific , there is a lot of controversy. I am not one of them. There are many people living in this society whose health goes when diseases come. There is a misunderstanding that when the germ path comes, diseases come when health goes. As long as the society does not learn what to do to maintain this health, various sciences will continue to sprout like this. If you study in college for many years, 10, five years, two years, three years, and study hard, and if you say it is scientific, you study in college and get a certificate, and then sit at home and do everything, then anyone can claim that it is science. Okay, so
22:40 whether you study scientifically in Ayurveda or homeopathy, I am also an allopathic doctor. I also studied MBBS in Kozhikode and in my practice, what I pay attention to is that a person should try to identify the cause of these diseases such as blood pressure, sugar or cholesterol. When the pressure increases, if you give them a pill to reduce the pressure, many people will treat it in various ways. The cause of that increase in pressure should be treated and that cause should be treated. If a person's blood sugar increases, and they immediately call the increase in blood sugar diabetes, and prescribe that pill to reduce blood sugar and call it diabetes treatment, no matter who does it, it is not treatment. You should understand that the increase in blood sugar is not diabetes. First of all, diabetes is not the increase in blood sugar; it is insulin resistance, damage to the pancreas. We should recognize this and evaluate it scientifically, what is the problem of the pancreas, what is insulin resistance, what is wrong with
23:27 a body, according to each person, according to their symptoms, according to the severity of the disease, and according to how old they are, and we should treat lifestyle diseases according to their age. At the same time, we give antibiotics to diseases that cause disease. I heard someone asking about its side effects. Before thinking about the side effects, we should think about the effects. One cannot say that someone is treating a person lying in a car accident and then giving them some treatment; that is an emergency, that can be done by non-medical science. At the same time, sometimes some very old diseases that do not get results in non-medical science can be treated in Ayurveda, sometimes in Homeopathy, sometimes in many other ways. But that does not mean that all of them are science. We all studied hard for years in college, wrote entrance exams and qualified, graduated, studied and studied, the science we learned, the experience we get over many years, when we combine
24:12 that experience with medical science, it becomes a cure. When someone recognizes the disease, cholesterol increases, we all immediately say that fried food is a way to reduce the problem. But why didn't cholesterol increase when we ate biryani at the age of 10? Why didn't it increase at the age of 15? Didn't we eat the same biryani? So there is no cholesterol in biryani at the age of 10, cholesterol in biryani at the age of 15, what is that? So why does cholesterol increase? Because what happened inside, what happened to the liver-all this needs to be studied. So you don't care about what Dr. Prasad says, he approaches it very philosophically. Hello, let it be. What I am saying is, when we get sick and get old, metabolic syndrome develops. As the body ages, our resistance to it weakens. Accordingly, we should go to this modern science-based, scientific
24:58 medicine. In general, these eating habits, as well as managing our diet, exercising, all this is the reason why a person's life and health increase naturally. Let me ask you, how many doctors in Kerala, how many doctors now have a patient coming to them? I am a doctor, a natural doctor, and I focus more on diet and things like that. So when a patient comes to me, how many doctors, now don't fry fried foods and reduce cholesterol or talk about metabolic syndrome...In this modern medicine, when we always look at sugar, we look at the fasting blood sugar level or AP (NC). There are many tests to identify it before it comes. What is everyone doing now? Every year, medical checkups are done regularly, right? Liver profile and cholesterol are
25:43 things that everyone always looks at. Everyone is afraid of cholesterol, heart attacks. By looking at a person's triglyceride (HDL) ratio, we know in advance whether a person is likely to get diabetes or how soon, how close it can come. But how many doctors do that? Moreover, we all know that today the most important thing is lifestyle; eight out of ten people have fatty liver. In the past, when I started the clinic in Ernakulam about four years ago, we used to write this fatty liver when we did an ultrasound scan. Back then, when many leading hospitals in Kerala said that fatty liver was grade, they used to say that it was okay. It is a period when they have started Fatty Liver Clinics in those places that have become public today. You have to understand this; that is, even modern changes, you have to study the basics clearly and understand them. We
26:31 say that the food we eat on this earth, whether it is rice, tubers, wheat, rava , or flour, all of this turns into post-digestion glucose. This glucose should be used mainly by our muscles, 95 percent of which is taken by our muscles, and the remaining 5 percent is taken by the brain, heart, and kidneys, okay. After taking this glucose for energy, when more energy is needed than that, triglyceride (TGL) energy is actually taken, okay. No one has discovered any medicine for this glucose or fat for energy on this earth till now. In the past, when we were working, we used to live in Wayanad...I have settled in Wayanad... not correct. I have seen so many tribals in Wayanad. Hair, at the age of 70, their hair turns gray, their hair does not fall out, their teeth do not fall out, they have good six-packs, and slim children. There is no problem in
27:16 getting old. Because they maintain their basal metabolism; they have to work hard, they eat quality food. I heard them say cholesterol, fat, etc. The answer is that if we don't exercise and convert the glucose and fat we eat every day into energy, we will slowly gain fat. The social media effect like universities is terrible and widespread these days. That's why they say that. I'm saying it in general; that's why they get terminologies like this. Liver Grade One, Grade...what is this for a long time, a problem that arises when
28:05 you try to measure the foundation of this by putting superficial knowledge. All of you...I didn't mean you, I meant the general public. I didn't target you , don't think that way. I said it in general; this is a general understanding. All of these WhatsApp universities are well-written and beautiful, and people who can write good content will write good content. Those who read this will think, now I once, I think it's his name, I don't remember, I once read: Some American... or some American book says that if we take even the smallest amount of 15 grams of paracetamol, it will affect the kidneys. This 15 grams is about 30 tablets; it is said that if we take 30, 500 milligrams of paracetamol, it will affect the kidneys. But what I said is
28:51 about that, when presented, I say 15 grams, which is a very small amount. A common man who hears it will think, is it enough to take 15 grams? You have to take 30 tablets. If it is 15 grams, then one tablet comes with 500 milligrams of paracetamol. No need for such a fake politeness. I translated the English part about paracetamol in the British National Formulary into Malayalam. Is it fake? He doesn't need
29:40 to tell you that taking 30 tablets will affect your kidneys; just ask the layman walking on our road. It is not healthy to take 30 tablets of paracetamol, but the British. Medical British National Medical Association, even if you drink more water, the person who drank the water will die, no one will die, no one who drank will die . Listen to what I said! In a society where the dose cannot be recognized, there will be people who don't know what grams are, milligrams. They will be afraid of being mistaken. 30 paracetamol is one, two, three, four tablets of 500 milligrams; none of this will happen. Who can give such a dose
30:28 to anyone. I will give you time to clarify what I said. In the British Medical Association's book British National Formula, it says 10-15 grams of paracetamol per 10-15 tablets for 24 hours; I read it and the person who said it in Malayalam said something else: If you grind two paracetamol tablets, mix them in rice and leave them in the kitchen, five mice will die in three to four days. The size that is sitting in my hand is different; this is where I call such facts scientific for a second. How many milligrams, how
31:17 many kilos of body weight are specifically stated; the weight of a mouse is not a human. No one gives a human a dose of 15 grams. Be careful not to misunderstand this. Then another thing, one more thing, one more thing: There are branches of treatment called allopathy, homeopathy, and Unani. All of these are people who have studied professionally. But if we say they are treating, the people who are undergoing treatment are 99 percent of the people in the society, less than one percent are professional and educated people. They have been arguing for a long time, saying, "We are better, you are worse." What do we believe, who do we believe, people who need to undergo treatment? Where is the N mark for this? There is a medicine and a medical dose. There is a
32:04 dose that is given to cure the disease. The doctor gives it after calculating the weight, age, etc. of the patient. Then there is a lethal dose. So, the medicine should be taken as medicine, if it is too much, it is said that the nectar is poison. So we should take medicine as medicine, that is what the doctor will tell us. One more thing is the reply to this. Sir, a doubt was asked, which system to follow. The question of a public who is confused should be replied to anyway. They have been passionate for the last five years . Don't confuse them. Yes, I said post-COVID. This is a topic that has been discussed a lot. After that, what happened in post-COVID? After that, there are a lot of defamatory messages about the AYUSH system on social media, especially on Faba. In Faba, everyone is going to it. One thing that Appa Sir noticed is that Mr. Sir is a senior journalist. One thing that we understand is that so
32:51 many things are coming against AYUSH, which is called Fake IDs. If you want to create so many fake ideas and say so many things against homeopathy and against AYUSH, is this in the interest of the public or is it someone else's interest? Sir, with your knowledge and experience, many discussions have been held on this. The doctors who conducted it have also organized many discussions under the leadership of Essence Global. Homeopaths have come there. Ayurveda doctors have come. I was a participant in a discussion a month ago. There are
33:37 some questions about whether Ayurveda is scientific. There are many big corporate hospitals in Kerala. There are Ayurveda departments in corporate hospitals. There are some doctors who are declaring this crusade against Ayurveda and are filling the entire social media. In the hospital where those doctors practice, there is Ayurveda beyond a wall. That is a crime . Or is that not what I asked them? They are against it. They are not saying a word against this unscientific treatment that they are alleging is going on in the institution where they work.
34:23 You are saying that you are wrong, there are two treatment methods in a hospital, it is the decision of the hospital management, it is a mode of working there, in our language, Ayurveda, these are the doctors of Essence, Ayurveda is pseudo-science, they are working under the same roof, the boss decides that, but the boss decides to oppose it, can the doctor interfere,
35:13 Ayurveda and allopathy treatment are being done under one roof. So, is it enough for an allopathic doctor to speak against Asha Ayurveda? What I have to say is that Apollo, I am someone who did a course in Apollo Hospital, Hospital Administration. When I went there that day, there was a different section for parallel treatment. I am promoting parallel treatment. Because, what can I say, many, if you want, 500 cases that have come to me, I can give you the number, I can call them and ask. I am just saying that one person, one dramatist from one Kollam. He had a small, micro level nerve problem in his ear and he was not even eating. I healed him
36:02 online through a WhatsApp call and today he has been completely cured. I called him yesterday and confirmed. I said, sir, I will not tell you his name . I said that I will tell you. Similarly, more than 500 cases of mental illness and all the sections here, all these sciences called Ayurveda, Homeopathy and Allopathy, those who have mental and physical problems have come to us and been treated and they have been cured. I will give you proof, a very important, very important, very important issue. Allopathy, Ayurveda and Homeopathy have all the treatments. If I suddenly get chest pain, where do I go if I get chest pain? I will tell you the answer, I will tell you the answer. I will tell you, did you hear that you go to the hospital next to the hospital where you
36:47 get chest pain. There is no difference. Which hospital? If it is Ayurveda, do you go? You will get chest pain. The clash between Ayurveda and Aropati was thought to be a wind that should not blow, a wind that should not blow. I will tell you the answer. That is, our most important problem is that these discussions between each other...These are discussions that are very useful for the people. If we want to go to a useful place, then the fruit of China is nothing, and our fruit is nothing. Similarly, if we here say that Suyo Science is rejected, the problem will not be solved. The main problem here is that each person shows commitment only to the medical science they have studied and does not see commitment to the public, to the people. What is useful for the people, that is what should be obtained through this. So I ...I am in China, I studied Acupuncture
37:33 , Acupuncture in a college registered under the Bengal Medical Council of India. I was taught there by all modern medicine doctors. I studied at Nanjing University in China. I was taught by all modern medicine doctors. I have done two levels of training in China. All the modern medicine doctors who taught me are modern medicine doctors. Modern medicine doctors refer patients to me. For me, I have the courage to practice because of modern medicine doctors. Because the question he asked earlier is, modern medicine is for when there is an emergency. His students are many modern medicine doctors. What can I say about this? I am not a doctor. He is trying to start a medical college. He is fighting with the
38:18 Government of India and the Health University here. The reason for fighting here is that no one can give such recognition. Our goal here is to treat the patient. That is a doctor who can do that. Modern science is needed now. The current allopathy is never up to the standards of modern science. The Bachelor of Integrated Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery, BI MBS, which we are now promoting, will be modern medicine only when a doctor comes. In what ways can the patient be given relief? There are preparations made in such a way that magic and mantras are left out and any other relief can be given. So there is no need to argue about
39:04 whether what I am saying is right or wrong. We should organize in a way where there is no Pakistan, no India, and no Kashmir. The patient is the most important; there is no need to think about how I can line his pocket. The patient should be given relief. We should abstract from all the possible treatments and select the pearl and the sapphire and take its excellence and use from all of them. All this is being said in a practical way. There are allopathic doctors who have not read the Ayurvedic book Ashtaga Hridayam after studying one. Then they all read a few books of allopathy that are said to be the work of modern science.
39:52 Actually, after doing a lot of research on this, I realized that what we were talking about here is a parallel treatment plan, not a parallel treatment plan. But after considering what the biggest problem of the discussion here is, the biggest problem of today's discussion is the kind of medical science that is happening in Kerala without basic qualifications, acupuncture is being discussed on the streets. How many people have died there in the name of acupuncture, which is the second medicine in the world? How many people have died in Kerala because of the feeling of being in a state of feeling? What is this? Stop emergency medicine. Stop testing. It is duplication in the name of an important medicine in the world. Acupuncture is a world-class treatment method. All these kinds of
40:41 frauds that are happening in Kerala should not be blamed on parallel medicine. It should be blamed on the government. Okay, a parallel treatment like the one you mentioned will never come. It is better or worse. A person who comes to me is a parasite. What diseases does he claim to heal? We do not tell a patient who comes to us that we can clear the difficulties that are physically, mentally and emotionally. We do not tell them that you are a cancer patient. We tell them that you should stop taking medicine. Stop it, stop it, stop it, tell me what happened, continue it, if these major diseases come, we will not take it there, yes, along with this, if you do this, if you have increased your vital energy, what will be the effect
41:26 of this medicine you are taking, it will help you to have a good effect on your body and your disease will go away very quickly. How can I finish? So, after giving an example, if we ask what electricity is, no one has a definition for it. What is electricity? Yes, if we want to be warm, we can use it as heat, if we want to be cold, we can use it as heat, if we want to be light, we can use it as light. What a patient's body needs, what his mind needs, according to that...Now the doctor said earlier here, when a patient has a diet or an illness, we say diet, diet, exercise along with medicine, it is parallel, not just by giving medicine. So that's...There is a
42:14 section in this country called poisoners. The specialty of poisoners is that in our country, 70%of snake bites are non-venomous snakes, and the rest are non-venomous. So, the person who gets bitten goes to the poisoner. Then the poisoner shows some magic tricks and all that and says that the patient is saved. This is a kind of magic that is done. Is the doctor saying that the program that says "this insect" is practical, just continue the treatment that is being done now? It is practical. We have published a lot of psychology research. Don't you know? That's what we psychiatrists and
43:00 psychologists do; give counseling. Counseling, I am a modern medicine practitioner. I am not against Ayurveda or Homeopathy. I think Ayurveda is officially recognized by the government in about 10 religious countries. Similarly, Homeopathy is also in about the same number of countries; they have scientifically recognized it. But, the problem here is that basic hospitals are being created every day that say things that have no scientific basis. Medicines are also being invented, there are many branches of science. As all this increases, diseases are increasing. Poor people are walking around thinking that they can get rid of anyone they can. Didn't the doctor understand that when hospitals increase, patients also increase. Today , patients are being given. There was
43:48 no clash between allopathy and Ayurveda . It was not this severe now. It was only recently that so many problems arose. The poor people who were in between are actually worried. But inside that, one important thing they are saying is that now many people are turning to Ayurveda. So these allopaths -I'm not saying allopaths-are spreading a big campaign against it, which is confusing people. Let's go ahead, if we add to the confusion, what is your illness...why are you silent on a program for the first time?
44:33 Having said that, here are not only disputes but you are not saying anything about the core issue, that is, science has become a science of exaggeration. So, let's say it like that. Of course, having said that, allopathic treatment has been in our country for 5000 years. Similarly, Ayurveda has a tradition of 5000 years. As a journalist who has seen firsthand the mental suffering he experienced as a naturopath and the humiliation he suffered from the government, Ippam, who is here, spoke about acupuncture. Acupuncture is an ancient treatment that originated in China centuries ago.
45:20 He is saying that I went to China and studied acupuncture under a doctor of modern medicine. Don't you understand? What is acupuncture? What treatments are performed for it? Acupuncture is a treatment system that uses needles, i.e. sterile needles, to insert into various parts of the body and apply pressure to relieve headaches, body aches, and muscle pain. They treat cancer. One, two, pranic therapy. Did you mention pranic therapy? When we say pranic therapy, we are removing the negative energy in our bodies and focusing on positive energy. So there is a toxin removal, a scanning, and all
46:05 that. But if we want to give this positive treatment, we must know the practice for it. Those who do not know this practice cannot do this. Let me tell you, let me tell you? I have not spoken yet, I have not spoken yet, let me tell you. Unani therapy is in ancient Greek. They will say that you came from that Greek system. No, isn't that a Siddha painter? You should tell us your opinion, shouldn't we learn? Siddha treatment is centered in Tamil Nadu. It is not for nothing that the Health Department, the Health Ministry of India, created AYUSH in 2014. It definitely recognized Ayurveda and Unani as well as Siddha, Yoga and Homeopathy. So, reject 5000-year-old
46:53 Ayurveda, reject 3000-4000-year-old treatment systems, and then come here and tell the story of cutting fruit and cutting thread to get applause. This is not the story of a jinn. I agree with Dr. Vadakkachera Prasadapalli the most. I remembered something very accurate. To know which treatment they should go for and where they should go if they suddenly have a heart attack, just look at where these pranic healers, jinns, Ayurveda and allopathic doctors in the country take someone to their
47:39 house if they have a heart attack. I had mentioned this in the discussion forum of SNS Global, that is, I talked about Dr. Valyathan. We don't need an introduction to who Dr. Valyathan is. After he retired, he accepted the discipleship of Raghavan Thirupad, studied Ayurveda in the traditional way , and wrote the Charaka Samhita. When I said this, do you know what my opponent said? It was to get Padma Shri, that is he replied there, no, he said that, that's all, let's discuss it elsewhere. This is the standard of all of them. This is a question that I want to ask people who tell the story of a tradition of 5000, 6000, 8000 years. The average life
48:25 expectancy of humans is 60 years, above 50 years or 60 years. The answer is yes , I can tell you. What is the average life expectancy here? Is that so? The question is, average life expectancy in minutes, average life expectancy, average life expectancy. How many centuries has it been since the average life expectancy of two people reached above 50, 60 years? We need to investigate. The second thing is hospitals, population growth, life expectancy. In a time when people were born and died at the age of 40, when there was no basic knowledge of treatment, many of us, what do we say when we get sick, would break our
49:12 communist greens and put them like this . That was the most modern treatment at that time, available to us at that time . A grandfather who lived to be 100 years old dies, and every year, five children die. Add these together and take 11 and divide it by 11. That is the per capita life expectancy. So, everyone lived to be 11 years old. The grandfather who died at the age of 11 is also 11 years old. You are that false number. Except that in the past, there was no vote, there was no community vote. There is another
49:57 thing; the human body has an inner mechanism that is born by itself, grows by itself, fixes itself, and repairs itself while you sleep at night. As part of the body's immunity power. So let me tell you that the human body also knows how to die, if the human body has eleven important systems, the eleventh system is the system for self-healing. All living beings have that ability to treat themselves in this nature. Humans can also cure or repair themselves. What is disease in reality? It is just illness. Due to someone's illness, their pancreas does not really work. You call it diabetes. When you give medicine to a diabetic to reduce sugar after seeing that sugar is
50:42 high, it does not get better. You are only good for the doctors. You should do the treatment there to repair and strengthen the pancreas. The biggest exploitation here is that foreigners have come to Kerala after spending up to 4000 crores on a hospital, and the miserable failure of your treatment. This life expectancy has been right for some time. In 1947, when we got independence, the average life span here was, say, one minute, it was below 30, 35, 40 years. It's true. The entire reason for this is that we have reached the age of 70 now is modern medicine. The average age is
51:29 61 years. Our social situation in that era, public health, that is, not getting enough food, not getting good food, no income, no income, many such life situations reduced the life expectancy of that time. Later, everyone got food, got good food, got food, got food, got food, got modern science, got food, got modern science, everything was possible through modern science. Within that, modern is an important topic of this discussion. Within that, modern medical science and modern medical science have played their own role. Many factors
52:16 have been understood. Today's discussion is about whether alternative treatments are effective. Two points I have to say, first of all, when we say alternative treatments, we need to understand that we should do it by sitting down with the treatments that have been accepted as alternative treatments by the World Health Organization. What is science? It is formed through experiment, observation, and experience. That is why we say science. So we have canceled his part and canceled the part called pseudo science. If you want to call it pseudo science, it must be a lie that pretends to be science. But whether it is Ayurveda, Unani or other alternative treatments, you cannot call any alternative treatment pseudo science. You should listen carefully for two minutes. If you take the general
53:05 strangeness of Kerala, Unani and acupuncture are mostly associated with the Muslim community. I have a lot of objection to the stupid person who says that science, science, science, science , science. When you say that parallel treatment is a pseudo science, why do you call it science? I don't understand one thing. This modern science that you mentioned is very good for diagnosis. Now, if I have a heart attack, I will say, "Oh, heal me, son," and then teach my son healing. I am not against modern science or diagnosis, but the rule of pharmaceutical companies is that which today's modern science runs on, not
53:50 only treatment, but also answers the question, even prizes. I am not saying that a 13-year-old girl who came to me last month is a child who comes from Palakkad and moves like a snake. This child has been allowing this for a year . In parallel treatment, the child who went to school today went to school and wrote the Onam exam. If I want to see proof of it, reply. There is something called Unani holistic treatment methods, holistic hospitals. Isn't he a person from occupation, he knows. It is done mostly in accordance with the beliefs of the Muslim community. Say, when you say most, there is no one else, it means the majority. Where is a majority? Let me
54:39 tell you a place. Unani is that treatment that was in ancient Roman philosophy, that was in that time. Acupuncture is a treatment method that is connected to Chinese Taoism. Let me say here, if Ayurveda is related to Hindu Vedas, it is related to Hindu Vedas. Let me say Muslim money, there are some Islamic treatment methods like Ruqyah, Hijama, and Cupping; You will say that the Prophet is a prophet, right? All this is Islamic. My question to you who have called something stupid is
55:25 very simple. Those who are applauding by saying the tradition of 5000, 6000, 7000, 8000 years ago, let me tell you that the vaccine of modern science has come and I will come to you. Doctor, this tradition is a tradition. All the doctors who are sitting here are treating some poor people in this society. Those people's question came from two or three. He asked earlier, what are we doing, sister, what are we doing, what
56:11 has the society learned? The problem here is the lack of education in the society, the lack of health education. The biggest problem is this. That is why these people can be easily misunderstood. Many of these people now know about bacterial infections and antibiotics for diseases caused by bacterial infections. They buy them at the full medical shop, and that is why there are many problems. So what we need to learn here is what can be done if an attack occurs, and what should each person in each society know and do? But without realizing what they are doing, without understanding why diseases occur, the most I am dealing with now are lifestyle diseases. Everyone knows the reason for it, including eating habits, hard work and life. But why don't they
56:58 make this practical in their own lives? It's not the lack of knowledge that is the problem of Malayalis, they have knowledge. Just a second, if you ask any of the doctors I mentioned, they will only say that modern medicine is dependent on it in emergency situations . Neither of the two people who spoke on the subject of modern medicine said that this science is pseudo-science, that point should be noted. What I said is that this is not pseudo-science, it is society that needs to be valued. The biggest problem is the inability of society to recognize this. No hospital or doctor calls patients home. What can I do, Malayalis have the awareness to recognize their minds. So, emergency situations may go away. But, in this country, all these people who are not selling medicine can be said. Here, 90%
57:43 of the patients are lifestyle diseases in our society. They should be given health education to understand the reason behind their lifestyle diseases. That is, I said again, diseases come when health deteriorates. Let's understand the path of health deterioration and look for ways to prevent it, ways to prevent it, and instead of treating diseases, let's look at ways to improve health. Listen to the two words, I will tell you the basics of Ayurveda. Then, when we read the 221st Khandanam Moola in Ashtanga Hridaya, it talks about a medicine called Sarasudaristam. The Ayurvedic experts should tell us that the content of preparing this Sarasudaristam is 12 liters. If you want to prepare Sarasudaristam, how many grams of gold
58:28 should be added to it? One gram of gold is in the Ashtanga Kritam book. I am not talking about weed. Let me tell you about one gram of gold. Only if one gram of gold is added, Sarasudaristam becomes a medicine. The same 12 liter medicine costs 450 a l for 12 liters. Today, no matter what medicine you look at, Vaishala does not mention it. You can get 450 ml for 600, 700, 800 rupees. You should understand that this medicine becomes a medicine only if one gram of gold is added. You have to buy medicine for 700 rupees, 600 rupees, and 800 rupees. When you calculate the average, if you compare the current market of Agram Gold and the market you get if you sell this 12 liter oil, it is not a pure fraud. Is
59:16 there something that is being done? They should tell you. No, it will come. I will come back to it. Tell me, Ayurveda doctor. Tell me. When I said before, let me give you a hint of one or two things. Tell me the history of Ayurveda. I will tell you in just two minutes. Ayurveda is basically the Indian Traditional Medical System that started 5000 years ago. Ayurveda is the Indian Traditional Medical System. Then, in each era, the rulers had their ups and downs according to their methods. After the British Western occupation of 5000, there was a time when it was banned to study and spread here and there. There was a degrowth in that 300-400 year long period. Up until then, emergency medicine was used in
1:00:03 those days. OPM was used for things like cannabis. Morphine was derived from opium, and later came. So, from the time of Western occupation until India gained independence, there was a huge degrowth, a period when emergency medicine was almost completely lost. After that, this is a little more. Now, Ayurveda has a minister, a department, a department in every state, a drug controller in every state. Ayurveda is called the Indian System of Medicine. There are also states. If you ask a question, there is an Institute of Ayurveda. There are three coming up. CCRS, 30 CRS, about 600 colleges, PhD things are coming up. It is under their leadership. The drug is under the supervision of the drug controller in each state. GMP companies come after
1:00:49 the inspections. Okay, when you talk about medicines, you have asked a direct question. This is all in Ayurveda. This is instant preparation as mentioned in the text. All this is not AD. Sorry, it is things that were returned in BC. It is instant preparation. Later, when pharmaceutical things were developed, it was bottled and preserved. All the things that were made in stone have come up. All the minor amendments have come up in it. Okay, it is legal, nothing illegal. It is not going to grind gold, it is not mixing gold, it is doing all the things that are done by gold. All the companies, the companies that make this medicine of the Drug Controller, are being inspected in Kerala under the leadership of the Ayurveda Deputy Drug Controller. Is what he said correct? The question is, all the companies, the gold miners, have
1:01:43 understood it. Everyone has a question. You have to tell me, you have to cut it open. The problem of gold in this amount. He is opposing this. If you write two uruks and alas, this disease will be cured. His question is about gold. Answer the question. Everyone has understood it. Often, things like that. Then we can hear him like this. I will answer myself. I will answer him myself. I
1:02:31 will answer what he cannot answer. I will answer what I answered. Ask me one thing. Show me his name. The announcement. The BJP government that is changing. Show me the paper. Of course, of course, I will show you now. Did you give him the sketch? Sir, we, the public, have a need. Tell them.
1:03:16 Ready, ready, great Karmayogi Award. Supreme Court Judge, Honorable Dr. Afroz Ahmed. Jamaluddin is giving the doctor in Delhi the news or this
