12da Library: Working Smarter - Training Webinar Series

0:01 hello and welcome to the latest webinar in 12d's training webinar series my name is lisa stewart 12 days training webinars showcase common industry challenges taking a close look at industry best practices and how these can be implemented using 12d products the aim of these webinars is to upskill 12d users and broaden their understanding of the capabilities of 12d products we'll be running these webinars again regularly in the new year and recording them for posting through our website and on youtube the previous webinars from this training series as well as the webinars from our industry solutions series and our what's coming from 12d series are all available on our youtube channels if you missed those during this presentation you'll be able

0:48 to type your questions along the way as shown on the screen and we'll answer as many as possible throughout the webinar at the end i'll read out some of your questions to the presenter for his insights if there's time today's webinar 12da library working smarter will be presented by dylan revell a regional sales manager for 12dnz with over 16 years of experience in civil engineering practice land development drainage and construction the 12da library is an option in 12d model software that can be used in many different ways whether it's used as a quick way to import and place complex 12d model items such as water models or 3d objects or simply as a quick creation library

1:33 for drafting and plotting options like standard details typical sections and more this webinar will cover some of the ways that the 12da library can help you work smarter items to be covered include setting up and using the 12da library to import and edit 12d objects adding details to cross-section plots and of course using the library in conjunction with mps plotting over to you dylan thanks lisa so the webinar we're going to be going through today is the 12da library now where this webinar came about is i did a few mps presentations at our recent 12d tech forum and one of the most common questions at

2:18 the end of those presentations was yeah but how good is 12d for creating typical details and my standard answer was use the 12va library and i threw that out so without any preparation and then i thought well i'd better do a webinar about the 12da library and basically backup what i've been telling everybody is the easiest way to do typical details so that's where this webinar came about so what we're going to run through today is what is the 12da library how it works what you can store in the 12da library and use understanding the placement of the library objects themselves and we'll give you a 12 year model demonstration of how you might use the 12da library

3:03 so start off with what is the 12va library well it's an easy to find storage area for 12d model data and that data being 12da or 12daz files the 12day library is a visual tool to help you see what's inside the file and place that data from those files inside your 12d model project but it is so much more than just a symbol library if that's what you're thinking that this is used for it's much much more so how the 12va library works well it looks for a default folder named 12da library okay so the library directory is the default folder and it looks for one called 12va library but you can name that and browse to that whatever you like

3:50 it looks for this folder in the standard library search path so if it looks in the customer library and then the user library and then finally in the library that's installed on the 12d model itself and i'll show you some of the lots of data that we have sitting in there that when you install 12d it's already there so this storage folder is going to have subfolders containing 12 the ar12 the az file so you can be as deep as you want to in your windows file explorer with the folder names and inside those folders okay it's going to have corresponding files these folders wherever you've got a folder they correspond in the 12da library option to a group itself so you can store them under there

4:36 and the content of those files will be dynamically scanned and viewed in the option so when you go and put click onto a 12da file that's stored under one of those folder locations 12d scans the data and gives you an instantaneous view of what's actually inside that 12d8 file these objects can be imported into your 12d model project and will run through most of those different variations inside the demonstration later on so what can you store and use inside the 12va library well essentially whatever you can write to a 12da file there is one exception to that and that's tins because tins you can't insert a tin that already has a tin of the same name in it okay it

5:22 basically just ignores tins that are inside that 12da file but everything else like strings and try meshes and fills hatches and under strings i also include water strings and nodes and links text and symbols so essentially whatever you can write to a 12da file you can store and use with the 12va library so think big you know don't think it's just a symbol or a plotting symbol if you have a need for using some data over and over again no matter how complex you'll see how handy the 12v library actually is it is important to understand the placement of data from the 12va library so 12da data doesn't have to be down at paper zero zero zero okay because you might be storing actual

6:08 project information with real coordinates that you want to insert we have one customer that had problems finding historical cross-section river cross section data and so we encourage them to use the 12da library as a depositing point for each year's cross-section information so then when 12 months went by and they had to compare this year's cross-sections with the previous year's sections they were right there and it was really easy to insert at real coordinates and real spatial values and the spatial size can be really small or really large it could be a plot symbol it might be a typical curve detail or it might be you know an entire set of cross sections so when you import and click use the selected coordinates on the screen what 12d does is it

6:55 calculates the centroid or the middle of all of the data that's contained within that 12 da or to object file and that's the point that's used for the insertion point because it can be small it can be large it's basically you want kind of the center of that data where you're clicking on the screen so if you know the exact reference insertion point that that data needs to be inserted or placed in inside your project data then we recommend include something inside the 12da file which is at the actual insertion point or movement point for that object data that you want to start using inside your 12v model project so what might you use the 12va library for well it's your choice you know you

7:40 can use it for a library of complex objects and bin data to speed up your survey and design production you might use it as typical drafting objects and details so you don't have to do those details or find them or draw them from scratch you might have them as a depository for additional plotting data that can be easily added to the mps plotting or it might simply be a handy easy to find area for stalling and restoring and recalling where you've saved 12 da data i.e those you know yearly river cross sections so again it's really your choice so what we're going to do now is we're going to jump into 12d model and we're going to give you a demonstration that kind of goes along those what might you use it for but again you will find

8:27 all sorts of different options how you might want to use the 12va library so let's get started there's going to be three mini sections to this 12d model demonstration first off i'm going to be using the 12da library for design elements then next i'm going to use the 12da library for drafting and finally i'm going to be using the 12va library for enhancing or for plotting using the mps um i'm using 12d model version 15 and you'll see that i am using the standard theme in a small format and where that comes from is when you're opening up the 12d project or creating the 12v project what you can do is you can obviously select themes which you can go and have a look at some of the other

9:13 webinars on the themes and what's coming in version 15. so in the 12da library itself in the standard theme where you access that is under file data input 12d and there's the 12da library item there you can also access it from the quick access toolbar and in my powerpoint presentation i did say that the 12da library read from the standard search structures from the library installed with 12d or one from your user library and if you've got one in your project as well so this one is currently reading from my user library 12d model version 15 and version 14 comes installed with a whole group of examples inside the 12da library the installed ones in 12d come from the

10:00 library folder itself so that's the 12v model 15 and you'll see that there's a 12da library folder there and under that folder we have some subfolders and the way that the 12da library works is it looks for the subfolders and any 12da files or 12 the az files underneath and if i just copy that path there and close the explorer and i'll paste this path into the library directory you'll see that anything that was a folder within the files itself and any data that's underneath um 12 va or 12 vaz files they'll be there in the 12 va library scans the file itself and gives you options to actually view that and use that data

10:47 so i'll be popping in and out of the 12vo library from different themes of the course during the course of this demonstration so for right now what i'll do is i'll leave that where it is and we'll have a look at using the 12da library for design data itself the beauty of the 12da format is you're writing out absolutely everything every object type with inside 12d so whether that be strings or text or leaders try meshes i did mention that it doesn't do tins but those can be saved away in a file so you've got easy access to very complex 12d objects that you can very easily import or store to or from particular projects so just to give you an example on how this might be used we've got

11:32 pre-installed items for complex water objects and water solutions if i just zoom out puts in the right place in my plan view and i'll just change the plotting scale on this view here down to 500 so that text is not so obtrusive you can have an existing existing water model and if you want a complex element say like a storage tank or a basin you can very easily add those and enhance your model itself because you can obviously have water objects that are stored within a 12da file so for example we've got one here which is a storage tank now this has all of the nodes and the links already set up for us so i can choose to either use the models from the file or i

12:18 can put this into a predefined model that i want within this project so i'm going to create a new object tree called 12da and we'll call this sw and i want this put into a model called tank i can place it on screen or use where it was originally saved in the file but i'm just going to place it on my screen here at these particular coordinates if i select import then that's imported that into this new model called 12da sw tank and you'll see that that is a full water items with nodes and links in all the presets that you need with regards to sizes so if i turn off all the data in my 3d view and just add that tank model

13:05 you'll see that it's brought in the water nodes at those presets so it's a really quick start for complex elements that you can add to your water network i'll bring in another one here which is probably the most common one and we've got a basin little culvert and the idea behind this is again you can bring this into your existing model i'm going to bring it into a brand new model and i'm going to place it where the basin is actually going to be spatially within the project and if i import that file and add that to the plan view you'll see that that's brought in water nodes and water links that have been set up with all of the preset basin standards and the idea behind this is you can obviously if i just move that out of the way

13:50 if you're going to be enhancing your existing network model or adding this to your network model the idea behind this is where those inlets are for the basin you can quite easily go up to your water plan edits and select move and you can move those inlet locations where they're actually connecting with your existing water networks so it's very quick to get a basin model inside those models all those complex water elements so we're just using 12d drainage or water strings and they're stored away in the 12da library and you can use those for a real-time design but have those saved away for when you need them which is the whole idea behind the 12va library now the next thing i'm going to do is

14:35 i'm going to bring in another 12da file from the library that's actually just tri-meshes and so we've got this 3d bim model and i'm going to insert it where i need to on the job and i'll only just be inserting one the interesting thing with the pre-installed 12di library we have a whole lot of pre-installed 12d files that actually make other functions in 12d operate so whether you've seen the bim object webinars previously if you haven't i highly recommend that you go and have a look at those these files that are stored away installed with 12d they actually do some clever clever things there's a mixture of try meshes in there and so using the bim um try mesh create the create edit bim objects function within 12d which i'm

15:20 not going to get into in a big way where it's actually reading this information from from the pre-installed bim library for example the roads and the minor roads and maybe a two-lane highway if i preview that there actually stored away the information for this in the 12va library so we use that as a storage area for other functions within 12d as well and of course if i wanted to insert many of them i would be using these bimobjects create options inside 12d rather than just importing them singularly but you can do it whichever way that you want so i've got an item here in my 12va library and it's from my user library so i'm just going to re-select that actually i'll show you where you can get that as well from the

16:07 quick access toolbar from the data import toolbar button the data input toolbar the 12da library item and that's just accessing it from a toolbar rather than accessing it from the menu item itself so i've got something in here this 12 year library has been specifically set up for the webinar and i have under a water structures folder an item called rain garden and we're just going to try and show you the different variations and how you may use a 12da library within your organization itself so this 12da file has got all of the trimesters individually within to create or place a rain garden and it's got its own model so this time i want to use the actual models that are inside the 12v file itself i do want to place it spatially with regards to my design in this

16:52 particular project and you can also automatically rotate the data that's in the 12va file using your rotation mode down the bottom here so i'm going to choose an anti-clockwise and i'm literally just going to measure the angle along my road where this rain garden is going to be placed so that's the angle there and if i select import that's imported into the models that were predefined within the 12v file itself so if i go and add those models i've got a object models here it's always slower when you're displaying the screen called rain garden and that rain garden has a mesh subgroup and under that mesh subgroup it's got a whole lot of different models that contain the different elements for that rain garden so i'm just going to turn on the whole rain garden you'll see that's placed there from the centroid of the file

17:38 and it's automatically orientated based on the rotation that i've set when i read in the 12va file itself so for now i'll just close that again and moving any object in 12d whether it be dry meshes or text or strings my favorite tools are the global tools and when i flick over to the cad theme you'll see that they're front and center but the translate option so under the utilities h2z these are the global tools you know rotate and translate and the translate is fantastic for once you've inserted something on its centroid from the 12va library to be able to quickly shift that into place now i've got that insertion point where it should go on a standard new zealand curve profile so i have that reference point there that i can use it to move

18:24 but in this particular data set the curve's slightly different so i'm just going to choose a rectangle i'm just going to move everything in that rectangle and i'm going to move it from this insertion point here and i'm going to move it spatially so it locks onto my top of curve and my actual road and replace the existing data and that's going to translate that group of data from those models into the right place so if i remove all of the information out of my 3d view and turn on the rain garden itself you'll see that that's from the 12da file inside the library it has a whole lot of try meshes with its own models and i can essentially um navigate that and place that where it needs to be spatially on my particular site so you can use any 12d object

19:13 within the design using the 12da library whether it be water strings or try meshes or normal design strings to basically have a really quick start for those complex design objects the next little sub item i'm going to go through that's pretty much using a 12va library for enhancing or assisting with your design and the next little bit might be more common way that you think of using something like the 12da library which is using the 12da library to help you with your drafting what i'm going to do is for my drafting i'd like to access to all of my cad tools very easily so i'm just going to go and change my theme up here from the standard theme to the cad thing and as i flick that through 12 you're going to

19:58 rebuild the database you'll see that it'll change all the menus and it is a little bit slower when i'm recording the screen so this would generally be a couple of seconds faster there we go okay so what i've done is i've loaded up the cad theme so i now have easy options to all of my cad workflows and most importantly for me my cad modified toolbars and my global toolbars which i use a lot when i'm drafting inside 12d so using the 12va library for drafting purposes one thing that's probably quite common if i just go and fire up the 12va library again is you know titles section markers scales and things like that so i've got a section here called um section location and i've

20:45 got some symbols under here one of those is called type one i'm again going to use the models from the file but i could place that into any designated model that i want i'm going to place that about here and i'm going to choose the rotation so i want it basically parallel with the cross section itself so i'm going to choose an angle same as these ones through here and import that symbol okay so this is yes it's a symbol but it's a group of actual 12d items being text and fills which essentially create the symbol itself so if i go to the sections location and turn on the symbols model that it's been brought in from you'll see that that symbol has been imported in the right place and i'm just going to choose the other symbol

21:30 which is the end of the section put that on the other side and put that in and you'll see that's really easily put in those section markers and it's again inserted from the centroid of the 12va data so what i'm going to do is i'm going to finish there temporarily i'm just going to move this data here within a rectangle and i'm going to move it from that point to my section location do the same thing on the other side the data within a rectangle to the other edge of the section itself okay so i can place those very quickly from the 12ga library and the beauty is because their actual data and fills are rather than just a symbol i can go and edit them so for example if that's pointing in the wrong direction for

22:15 where i'm going to be plotting i might use some of my global tools like the rotate here just move that down a little bit closer and i want to rotate a couple of strings being the text so i'll do that one and i'll also do that piece of text i'm going to rotate it using my cad snaps about the center of the symbol and i want that to rotate 180 degrees and replace the existing data so that's just rotated those text objects around based on the center of the symbol and then when it comes to creating your plot you'll know obviously which sheet that's going to go in that's just a piece of text i can simply go and edit that piece of text and say that that's going to be displayed or plotted on sheet or page number 300. so you can use that for your typical and

23:03 that's typical in speech marks what you would think you might use a symbol library but we're doing it with smarter data within the 12va library and i'm going to go and run a plot so let's say this is the section that i'm going to be plotting and just using the typical 12d plotting options that section about 136 let's say section 130 i'm just going to plot a cross section plot sections cross section and i've got a ppf file here which is essentially just a really basic um cross section that will give me the data i want at a scale that i want um for the plot itself so if i read that it's this pp file i'm going to put another one to

23:48 a thousand scale so it's actually a real scale and let's say i want to plot between changes 130 and say 140 that's going to plot to a model and an object tree called rs2bo1 i just go ahead and plot that finish that off and i'm going to create a brand new view so if i go view create plan view and call this new view called plot all uppercase move that off to the left half and turn on that new model which is under plots xs rs2b011 so it's just got minimal text and information on it if i'm going to

24:35 want to create a typical cross-section then i'm not going to want that data so using my global tools again i'm just going to quickly do a global delete everything inside and crossing a rectangle so we'll get rid of that data there and i'll also get rid of the text and the datum line because i'm not really interested in that and very quickly from doing a a dynamic plot i've got my cross section actually plotted out and i've got my pavements designed in there so the trimesters have been plotted underneath and if you don't want your trimesters to be plotted as a solid at any time that's just a fill now in a plot so you could you know draw the face edges and turn off the face fill and decide exactly what you want to plot but i'm just going to leave those as my solid tool shading for now and i'm going to use the 12da

25:21 library to very quickly enhance this cross-section plot and maybe add some typical items on it using the 12va library so this is plotted at a real scale so that's the actual width of the road and i'm going to come up here and reactivate the 12da library again and i've got some standard boom details that i saved away in my 12 va library i'm actually going to insert these in the same model as my plotted cross section rather than use the models in the file and i'll place this first one up here because that's going to be the left hand boom okay and then i might have a five meter boom on the other side and then support that and because they've come into the same model i don't have to turn that model on on the view

26:07 so this 12d library can contain all of these standard things that you don't want to essentially have to build every single time you do a cross-section plot or a typical cross-section plot and i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to do some cad work just to move these into the right place so hopefully within a few minutes i'm not going to make it exactly right but i am going to show you how quick it can be to plot some real data with some real dimensions and then make that into essentially a typical cross-section plot which always takes time so i'm going to use my move option to move all of the data here from that point there it matches to the back of the curve and my standard three and a half meter boom now this one's a little bit different in my library it's all on a left hand side orientation whereas i'm going to insert

26:52 this on the right hand side so i'm going to use a different cad option here i'm going to use the mirror in the y-axis and i'm going to go alpha lasso and this is the data that will be contained within the lasso and if i get a steady hand i'm just going to lessee the data that i actually want mirrored except okay that's pretty much only picked up the pipe work so then i'll choose my mirror point which will be that road boundary and i've just mirrored that um left-hand orientation into a right-hand orientation as i'm not going to make it perfect but i might we'll make it look a little bit better so i'll move all of that text over to where it should be pretty much on section i'll move that text to the same there

27:38 and this text in here the justification is not quite right but i will move a couple of rectangle selections from that point here over to that point there so i'm not going to make it perfect that's just to give you an idea how you can use the cad functionality within 12d in combination with the 12da library so finally i'm going to move that based on a crossing rectangle from that point there oh bigger button i'll do that one more time so move that crossing rectangle from the base point there down to my back of my curve and you see that's enhanced that typical cross section quite easily getting drafting information or cad information directly from the 12da

28:25 library i will just do a little bit of extra because i'm going to save this away to the 12 year library when i'm finished so a couple of extra details that you may or may not use before um the leaders and the dimensions inside 12d we've got all those full capabilities now when it comes to doing my dimensions i don't want to snap to i only want to snap to the point so i'm just going to turn off my line snap i'm going to go and choose my horizontal dimension option i'm going to type s for style and choose my dimension style and my t for format choose my format that i'm going to be placing and i'll just place a couple of dimensions so you can get an idea of you know how you can build up these um this data and put it into the library so i've just placed a horizontal dimension that's a paper scale

29:10 i might have an idea that my final plotted scale is going to be a 100 so i'll just change the plan view scale to show what it should look like when it plots out and i'll just carry on and place a couple of dimensions you know just to show you how you can build these things up and then save the way to the library so the distance from there to there place that one there and horizontal distance from the back of the footpath to the boom and then you may you know obviously have a dimension that goes from the edge of the boom half with the road and then you might do one that goes to the full width of the road you know of course you would do this a lot more carefully than what i'm doing and extra data this is coming from the

29:56 12da library it's actually just strings and text but if i wanted to save that away as a leader instead so it's a little bit smarter i just do a leader here again i'll just choose my style of my leader and my format don't need format place a leader text in here this might be curb type one see details and you've got your leader in there that you can then go and edit and get it exactly right so pretty quickly i've gone from a plotted cross section enhance that by the 12 year library and some other drafting options inside 12d to create a pretty reasonable typical cross section that can be used on my drawing set of course once you have these typical

30:43 cross sections you don't have to create it from scratch every single time you could again utilize the 12da library to basically place these very very quickly for you if it's a typical detail so i'm going to go back to the 12v library and this time i'm going to have a look at i've got some typical sections here i've got a stream upgrade typical cross-section all detailed out i'm going to use the model from the file and i am going to place it down at paper 0-0 so if i import that and then i will just create a brand new view call details move that across to the side and turn on that model that i've just inserted these come in two typical sections under roads because i'm using the models

31:28 from the file within the 12va library so you know right you don't have to create those from scratch every single time you can use parts of the information from the 12-video library like i've done to you know help draft it up or you could have the whole darn thing in i'm going to insert another one the local road upgrade again i'll use the models from the file and then for the last part of the demonstration plotting wise i'm going to pull in some other standard details so i've got my stand details i've got utility standard details so where it was saying the common trench details i'm going to go import on that one so if i remove those models i've got my typical details utilities common trench and this has got

32:14 real paper size text so i know that i'm going to be finally plotting that out at a scale of 150 for my detail so i'll set my view up to what i think the final plotted plotted scale is going to be so you can see i've imported some standard details and that's a mixture of strings and um symbols and text itself and the beauty of using it from the 12da library if i wanted to come and edit that piece of text because it is text now i don't need note number 10 and note number 9 or rearrange the order or add some different text you can start off with what your 90 standard notation is going to be and edit it specifically for your project so that's a standard details i'll bring in a couple more i've got a curb type 1

33:01 standard detail and i'll insert that into the same models as the file and finally i've got some standard notes on the roads pavement notes and i will insert or import those from the ipa library and that's going to go across to our little final part of the demonstration which is using the 12va library for plotting in conjunction with the mps so i've created a typical cross-section i've imported some of those details into models and i can either use them in a view edit them but ultimately you've got the data in there very quickly to use in your 12va library so the final part of the demonstration is going to be using that data that we've used from the 12da library for our

33:47 finished plot so i'm going to use the multi-blade plots so i'm go i've got one here kind of already set up now it's empty when you're doing your typical detail plots you could have these mps files sitting in your user library that already has you know your standard models and everything referenced so you could quickly add that to your plot sheet and your plot output very very quickly so i've essentially just got one page for a difficult detail sheet and at the moment that single page has two plan frames so the two plan frames this one here is for my road section location and this one is for my trench detail and they're just as i say plan view types

34:33 so my road section i'm going to use the data that i've actually put together inside that cad drafting it's going to be at a scale of 1 to 100 and i can then just use the mps frame tools to go and put that exactly where i want that to appear on that particular page similarly with the trench i'm just going to take the data that's coming straight out of the view but you could use a view favorite instead that's going to be a scale of 1 to 50 and i'm going to pan that into the final location that it's going to be created it's a very similar sort of thing to what you would think you know using items or libraries for plots would be but of course with the mps we've got

35:18 much more clever tools rather than just having a planned viewport or a planned viewframe so i'm going to enhance this typical detail plot using those different items to give you some ideas first off i don't need that frame to be that big so i'm just going to move that up here which gives me a little bit of space down the bottom right hand side so rather than do a typical plot 2d data i'm going to actually use a 3d pdf type frame and i want the 3d part 3d pdf part in my details plot to be here and it's going to be getting that data from the view 3d and all of this i know i'm running through the nps rather quickly but there's another couple of webinars that you can go and get the details of right from scratch how to use an mps file

36:05 itself and all these different frame types if i didn't want an interactive 3d pdf i just wanted a screenshot of basically what was sitting on this 3d view here in the background i could use a perspective type frame rather than a 3d pdf and i'm going to put that right on the same place and so i've got a different frame type but if it's just standard detail standard notes i've used the 12do library to import those into particular models and i don't even need a viewport to plot that data on an mps frame i can use the model type sub node in an mps so to give an example of how that works i can just create a model reference and i'll call this one stream

36:54 crossing and that's going to be using that typical section road local stream crossing at a 1 to 100 plot scale and i can then just use that whole data that's referenced in that model and place that anywhere on my plot composition that i want just using a model frame so you can have all of your typical cross sections and your model reference is already done and sitting in a pre-defined mps file so it'll be really quickly to create your detailed sheets or your typical detail sheets and the beauty of the mps is even though that's inserted that's going to make a mess it's far too big i can just deactivate that sub node so i can have

37:39 that typical cross section sitting there to plot on a page if i need it if i've got that say on a chapter level so i am going to and create one that fits which is my typical section local road upgrade and again that's at a 1 to 100 scale and i'll just pin that on the view so where it's going to be in its final plot so the top one is the one that i've created and drafted up using by hand this is one that's come directly from the 12da library all fully prepared that i can just use in my plots and we'll call that one road upgrade try and give my sub node some good names and then

38:25 last couple of things i inserted my typical curb detail from the 12 day library and i also inserted some notes so they're both again model references so we'll call this one curve and that's going to be pulling the typical details curve type one now this isn't drawn at real scale it's basically drawn at a plotted scale already so i don't need to apply a scale factor to that one and you'll see how you know all of the 12v elements including fills and hatches they've come through directly from 12da file that's the beauty of having that from a 12v library as opposed to a symbol itself and finally i will do one more reference to finish off this planned preparation we'll call this notes and i'll use that model reference typical details sorry typical sections

39:12 notes pavement notes and again put those to where that's going to be finally on my block composition so pretty much all of this data apart from the plotted cross section has come directly from the 12da library and i've put that all together into something that's semi-coherent to essentially create a plot so i'm going to write that file back again and i'm going to go and plot that sheet or that page again when it's sort of recording the screen it takes a little bit longer but that will pop up with the completed pdf file from the 12va library creations in just a moment

39:59 okay here it comes so what we've got here is our finished plot composition from data using the 12-day library we've got our cated up typical cross-section we've got our directly imported typical cross-section we've got our typical details and our standard notes that have all come from the 12da library and we've also got this wonderful little interactive 3d pdf frame here so you can do stuff with that so if you've given a standard plan and section of a rain garden enhance that with some of the other cool features within the 12d mps and the beauty of this is i can obviously go in turn on and off you know i can turn off models or layers so i can turn off the media and i can

40:44 turn off the vegetation and you've got this interactive part to your plot again the majority of this has come directly from the 12va library and i've only spent about 15 minutes putting it together so you can imagine you know to get it absolutely right it would be um very very complementary to not only design modeling but also your drafting and your plotting now the final thing i'm going to do is i'm going to export that typical cross section that i created from plotting and drafting back into my 12da library so that's something that i might want to use on different projects in different areas and it is purely just a 12da file so if

41:30 i output the 12b data i'm just going to output everything in the view so if that had different models i could import using the models within the file and it needs to go into your final 12da library destination which in my case is the userlib folder and it's going to go into typical sections but if i want to if that's getting a little bit too large and i want to group those a little bit easier i can just simply have different subfolders and i might create a folder called extra sections and i'll write that data out to that 12d file oh sorry x we'll call this typical ad section the file name itself

42:15 write that out and that because that's under the standard location for the 12va library itself whenever i go and fire up my 12da library option i now have under typical sections another subsection called extra sections here a little bit bigger and under the extra sections i've got the typical cad section that i have just written out and that's very quickly able to be used on different multiple projects from sitting there within the 12va library so in summary basically what we've got here is using the 12va library in different aspects and you guys will come up with lots of different ways to use that whether it's some for your design

43:02 whether it's for your plotting or drafting or if it's just for storing things away that you know where they are that you can come and grab them in different projects really easy um hopefully today i've demonstrated how useful the 12da library is for work within 12d model itself so i will take it back to lisa for any questions thanks for that dialyn we've had a few questions through i'll start with this one bruce has asked would it be possible to cover again where to set the insertion point when creating the 12d8 library exporting this entire 12da data it will install a real store the real coordinates so if i use the

43:48 coordinates from the file for the insertion point that will bring that back in at that exact projection or world coordinates but if i was just inserting it and placing it on the screen using a placement you know i'm going to want to pretty much ensure that all the data although the middle of the data essentially is where i click my mouse for the placement so it will actually scan all of the extents of the data it'll calculate the centroid or essentially the midpoint of all of that data that's contained within the 12va file and when i pick a point on the screen and hit go it will basically come in in that area there now if that was just something like i had with the rain garden then i needed that rain garden to be inserted at a particular point

44:34 then i can essentially do a real insertion point on that data and that's for design data that's in both um x and y and z so if i need to link that exactly to the lip of the curve once i've imported it it may you know figure out that point as the insertion point then i can quickly move it from that real insertion point into the real data that i need so hopefully that explains that one it kind of does it does a quasi calculation of the the center of all of the data within 12v5 great and uh paul has asked if you have previous creations of typical sections created in cad can you import them straight to the 12da

45:20 library for use in 12d oh you'd have to do one step first so obviously if it's a cad if it's a dwg file you can either copy and paste that you know directly into 12b using the cad copy paste or import the dwg file do any little cleanups that you want into the model and then um it's just in one way into 12d and once it's inside 12d you can absolutely write that data out as a 12 va to the appropriate folder location so yes it's very very quick to get um existing details from cad and export those to the 12 year library there's just that interim thing of getting it into 12b so you can write the 12v8 file itself thanks and um oh can we import

46:07 a 12da file to a wne drainage.4d file with the standard 12da library all these items that are installed with 12b model 14 and 12v model 15 they are actual well not all of them these ones there they are water or drainage string objects so they import those in and then you can go straight to your wne click on that item now if you have imported that into your previous water network that's got all of your hydro files and all of your model settings it will instantly uh inherit all of those settings for the wne from the previous model if you're just inserting it into a new

46:53 model and then firing up the wne there is some base settings that make it work um that you may just need to specify your particular hydro file and you know and your methodology for your rainfall method but yes absolutely from the 12th year library edison sits straight and fire up the wne and away you go thanks stalin is it some would it be okay if you showed again setting the insertion point when creating the 12da library just from that first question because i realized now we didn't have visual on that so yeah absolutely if we can demo that okay so right so basically what i've got here is i've got my rain garden and inside that rain garden

47:39 i actually have one a one point string that's got a symbol on it and that's in real xy relative space so if i go and place that on the screen here i won't worry about a rotation this time and if i add that to the view okay so i actually have this super string or 12d 3d string which is just one point that has an absolutely valid um height as well relative to the top of the rain garden so if that was the lip of the curved position i've actually saved that insertion point away inside the 12va file itself so even though it might be placed

48:25 slightly off where i've set it i can very quickly use those translate tools snap onto that x and y and z position and then snap on to my corresponding design position and it will shift it by using the translate tools um in both the x and y and the z position itself so if i remove all of that data and go and add the rain garden data it's pretty hard to see but i actually do have a very very small yellow dot there that's coming with the original 12va file and that's my insertion point that i can use as a reference to locate those um complex models in the right place brilliant thank you uh so i might just take one more of these live uh can we save a cad file as a block in

49:13 the 12da library a cad file as a block a block in cad is a symbol inside 12d so it's a symbol type element that can be inserted and yes the 12va library writes out symbols and strings and tri-meshes and tins so the answer to that would be yes but you're probably not going to want just a simple symbol you're going to want a block which is a combination of different 12 the object types that you'll save away to the 12va library very similar to what i had in my section location symbols and even titles you know that might be a symbol in itself or it might be 12va data and it's a combination of everything so if you want to edit it very easily like

49:59 just editing text then have it as text if you don't want it edited it's just going to be what it is a symbol or a block then you can absolutely save that symbol away to the year library okay thanks for that darling sorry to those whose questions we didn't get to live today but i'll email any of those through to dylan after the presentation and a couple of people asked whether the recording will be available so yes the recording of today's webinar will be available in coming days through the webinars page on our website and on our 12d model youtube channel we'll also email the link to everyone who registered so keep an eye on your emails for that one and also for announcements of our details of the new webinars in

50:45 the new year if you need to contact us in the meantime you can always pop on our website and yeah shoot us an email that concludes our presentation for today thank you all for attending and we hope to see you at future webinars