Brief Summary
This podcast episode features a spoiler-filled discussion about the Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning movie. The panel, including guests, provides detailed insights into the movie's plot, characters, and connections to previous Digimon series, especially Digimon Adventure 02 and Kizuna. They touch on the voice acting, animation, and thematic elements, as well as the movie's place in the broader Digimon continuity.
- The movie is a direct sequel to Digimon Adventure 02, with thematic connections to Kizuna.
- The characters remain true to their original selves, with a focus on teamwork and friendship.
- The movie explores themes of resisting fate, the origin of Digimon partnerships, and the importance of communication.
- The ending is open-ended, suggesting more stories in the Adventure universe.
Intro
The podcast begins with greetings and technical checks, ensuring all participants can be heard. The host teases upcoming movie spoilers and jokes about potential topics, including Twitter and Reddit opinions on the movie. The panel expresses excitement about the Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning movie and prepares to discuss it in detail.
Introductions and Disclaimers
The host introduces the panel, including returning guests from previous episodes. They clarify that the discussion will contain spoilers for the Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning movie, advising those who wish to avoid spoilers to leave. The panel emphasizes that they will not hold back on discussing specific plot points and details.
Initial Thoughts and Movie Overview
The panel provides an overview of the movie, stating that it is the third film for Digimon Adventure 02 and is more of a 02 film than the Try series. They note that the movie can be watched without having seen Kizuna or Try, but having seen Kizuna may improve the viewing experience. The movie came out on the 27th in Japan and has screenings internationally this month.
Movie Announcement and Versions Seen
The movie was announced at Digifest 2021, along with Ghost Game. The panel discusses the versions of the movie they have seen, including subbed and dubbed versions, as well as theatrical screenings. They mention that there were changes in the credits for the theatrical release.
Card Game and Screenings
The panel discusses the Digimon card game packs that were given out at the screenings. They complain about not getting the cards and the high prices people are charging for them online. The screenings were held on the 7th (dubbed) and 8th (subbed).
Movie Intro and Opening Scene
The panel discusses the movie's intro, which includes Bolero music and a playful screen of text. They appreciate the director's attention to detail and the inclusion of modern elements like selfies. The intro also features a clip from Try and updates on the World Tour kids.
Character Dynamics and Themes
The panel discusses the characters and their dynamics, noting that the characters have not changed in a way that matches 02 itself. They highlight that Adventure is about self-actualization, while 02 is about the group coming together as a cohesive team. The movie captures the vibe of 02 very well.
Louie and Trauma
The panel discusses the character of Louie and the need for a trauma kid in the movie. They argue that giving Davis or Yoli a trauma storyline would not be in line with their established characters. The movie explores the theme of resisting fate, contrasting with Kizuna's theme of accepting fate.
D3 and Target Intro
The panel discusses the D3 in a drawer and the message on it. They appreciate the use of the Target intro and the inclusion of storyboards. The movie does a good job of making everything fit together regarding the epilogue.
Target Intro Details and Movie Start
The panel discusses the Target intro in detail, highlighting the character fits and the humor. They note that the movie starts with the promise of seeing the characters again and that the 02 kids get to shine. The arrival of the characters is also discussed, with Mako using the digital gate and CaRu plowing in like Marge Simpson.
Voice Acting
The panel discusses the Japanese and English voice casts. They praise the Japanese cast for bringing back everyone from Kizuna and Try. They also discuss the new characters and their voice actors. The English cast is also discussed, with Brian Donovan returning as Davis and Derek Steven Prince as Ken and Vmon.
English Cast and Dubbing Issues
The panel continues discussing the English voice cast, noting changes in voice acting for certain characters. They point out a dub scripting error where Hikari gooka is mentioned instead of Heiden F terce. The panel also discusses the use of Oda in the dub and the history of avoiding specific city names in Japan.
Meeting Louie and New Jogress Sequence
The panel discusses the 02 kids meeting Louie and his speech about being the first Digi destined. They note that Louie is a wary and negative character who does not want to be involved. The panel also discusses the new jogress sequence and the animation style.
Evolution Sequences and Fan Service
The panel discusses the evolution sequences and whether they are just fan service. They note that the director wanted to include evolutions because he did not get to show them in the last movie. The panel also discusses the structure of the movie and how it compares to Kizuna.
Dub Scripting Error and Time Travel
The panel discusses the dub scripting error and the use of Oda. They also discuss the time travel elements in the movie and whether they are actually time travel or something else. The director originally had time travel in the movie but removed it to avoid paradoxes.
Louie's Flashback and Abuse
The panel discusses Louie's flashback and the abuse he suffered. They note that Louie's mom is not in a good place and that he is taking his issues out on her. The panel also discusses the unreliable narrator and how much to take the flashback at face value.
Computer Club Room and Ukan's Explanation
The panel discusses the kids in a computer club room and the little digy digy monmon. They also discuss Louie's explanation of ukan and how he makes wishes come true. The panel notes that the movie is not going to tell you anything that might be usable in the future.
Louie's Understanding and Ukan's Morality
The panel discusses Louie's understanding of the situation and how he is using the same vocabulary as the audience. They also discuss ukan's morality and how he is just trying to make Louie happy. The panel notes that ukan is a baby and that he is taking things literally.
Time Skip and Ukan's Friends
The panel discusses the time skip and how Louie is now eight years old. They note that ukan is a bit sad because his real friends can't meet him yet. The panel also discusses the fact that Digi didn't just necessarily pop out of thin air and that their relationships didn't.
Ken's Speech and Flashback
The panel discusses Ken's speech and how it is important that it is Ken giving the speech. They also discuss the flashback and how it takes place in 2004. The panel notes that the speech from ukan goes off the rails and that Louie is horrified.
Ukan's Tendrils and Hiari's Line
The panel discusses ukan's tendrils and how they make everything all better. They note that ukan is doing things that are very wrong and that he does not understand that. The panel also discusses Hiari's line and how it was said a bit haphazard.
Leap Year and Ukan's Singing
The panel discusses the clock striking midnight and the egg beginning to hatch. They note that it is February 29th, 2012, and that ukan starts singing happy birthday. The panel also discusses the messages again and how everything is great because they showed us the date and everything early in the film.
Digi Eggs and Apocalyptic Scenario
The panel discusses the Digi eggs and how everyone shall have a digimon all at once. They note that the world is definitely not ready for this and that this is where they get into the legally mandated characters have to talk about the lore. The panel also discusses the math of how many Digi destined there are and the doubling concept.
TK and Ki Disagreement and Ken's Question
The panel discusses TK putting out and how it goes back to him in Adventure and Try. They note that Ki points out that it does matter but the world needs help. The panel also discusses Ken wondering if they can beat him without actually just doing everything.
D3s and Pale Dramon
The panel discusses the D3s coming out and everyone dig evolving to Champion. They note that godan goes to Ultimate and that they get the new version of the animation. The panel also discusses the pale Dramon again and how they blow up the castle again.
Flying Through the City and Batman Reference
The panel discusses the characters flying through the city and how it is a reference to the Michael Keaton Batman film. They note that the action is quick but that they get two of them sort of. The panel also discusses the design of the magical space inside impon.
Tendrils and Evolution
The panel discusses the tendrils and how they beat the [ __ ] out of andrean. They note that she is back to godan aquil convenient ailon ailon grabs her but the movie is aware enough to not immediately go to Yoli and Ki they go to takaro. The panel also discusses the evolution and how it prompts one Evolution prompts them EV the evolution that godon is set up for now.
Timeline and Davis's Faith
The panel discusses the timeline and how Louie does the running and jumping. They note that Davis is calm because he believes in Louie and that T is impressed. The panel also discusses Yoli asking them to stop flirting and how that line broke the theater and the internet.
Louie's Mom and Wish Fulfillment
The panel discusses Louie seeing himself chasing after his mom and how they do not do the Back to the Future 2 thing. They note that this is not time travel and that it is what Lou and ukan want to re. The panel also discusses Louie grabbing his mom's hand and how he makes her listen.
Ukan's Growth and Handshake
The panel discusses Louie inside with his mom and how no one should be there if such an egg appears. They note that it is older Louie and ukan cra open he needs nothing he has no wishes nothing. The panel also discusses ukan's growth and how he thought he was making him happy that it's what he thought he was supposed to do.
Giant Ukan and Snowball Fight
The panel discusses the giant ukan caught by Imperial Dron and how everyone is like it didn't work it did it's just this is something that started that can't be they have to stop it. They also discuss the snowball fight and how it is something very cyclical about the point of 02 was always it was the fun one.
Scar and Narrator
The panel discusses the scar and how it is a clue that it is not actually time travel. They note that in theory that's where you would show him in his his face is fine. The panel also discusses the narrator and how the Japanese version does it better because there's no awareness of what to do here for the dub.
Credits and Post-Credit Scene
The panel discusses the credits and how Colors by aim was [ __ ] amazing. They note that the credits are over and oh movie is not Louis standing in the snow he's happy he looks at the egg and the Egg shakes an immediate cut to Black. The panel also discusses how this isn't Marvel and that they have had this exact end scene before just from different perspectives.
Final Thoughts and Future of Digimon
The panel shares their final thoughts on the movie, noting that there are many flaws but that it feels like there is more to chew on this one than Kizuna. They also discuss the future of Digimon and whether they will make another 02 movie. The panel notes that they are not done with the Adventure universe and that this is building the foundation of whatever comes next.
Questions and Answers
The panel answers questions from the audience, including why certain people haven't guested on the podcast, what happened to the digivices from Kizuna, and whether they will get a DVD release sooner than usual. They also discuss whether they are disappointed they didn't work on the new movie and whether Digimon Adventure continuity might continue with the latest two movies.
Favorite Scenes and Casual Fan
The panel shares their favorite scenes from the movie, including blowing up, Yoli getting in Davis's face, and Ken padding Mormon. They also discuss whether the movie is the right 02 story to tell for a casual fan and whether it required the 02 kids or could have been told with someone else.
Other Adventure Partners and Continuity
The panel discusses what happened to the other ton Adventure Partners and whether they feel like it's a na a Natural Evolution from K Tri otun Adventure. They note that it does fit and that it is a sequel to 02 if you've seen Kiza it enriches it if you haven't it is zero2 years later.
Unanswered Questions and Ukan's Connection
The panel discusses the biggest unanswered things that left them confused, including ukan's connection to being a higher power. They note that there are a lot of higher powers in Digimon and that it could be of half a dozen. The panel also discusses why ukan either didn't or was unable to deliver on bringing any of the other Destin to Lou's birthday party.
Tri Continuity and O2 Stuff
The panel discusses whether Tri is still impart continuity and whether they will see more 02 stuff. They note that Tri is a sequel to Adventure and not a sequel to 02. The panel also discusses whether it would be possible to see the kids again not necessarily like them getting their own movie.
Closing Remarks and Plugs
The panel shares their closing remarks and plugs their various projects. They thank the audience for showing up and note that there will be a normal episode next week going over news and whatnot. The panel also says goodbye and thanks everyone for showing up and enjoying the movie if they haven't seen it.
