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0:00 Welcome to Wawa Sanwire. Today we're talking about something that truly reveals the depth or sometimes well the startling lack thereof in leadership when they're faced with even you know the simplest of mistakes. >> It really does. >> It's just astonishing how some leaders can turn a minor misstep like say a wrongly hoisted flag into a full-blown national crisis. Suddenly there's panic, division. >> H Yeah. Escalation. >> Exactly. Yet at the same time, you see others handle these exact same situations with such uh grace and wisdom, they completely diffuse the potential chaos before it even starts. >> It does make you wonder, doesn't it? Yeah. >> About the motivations, >> right? Are some intentionally stirring up trouble, maybe for personal gain, while others are just focused on, you know, pragmatic solutions.
0:45 >> It's a valid question. >> Think about it like this, like in everyday life, some parents might totally overreact to a child's innocent mistake, right? Making the kid fearful, hesitant. Yeah. stifling them almost. >> Yeah. But then other parents use that same mistake as a teaching moment. They foster growth, resilience. We've actually seen this play out on a national stage recently right here in Malaysia. >> Yeah. >> Very different examples. >> We certainly have. >> So what do you think? Have you noticed this pattern? How certain issues are handled compared to others? And I mean, how does it make you feel about the direction our country is headed? >> It's definitely something people are discussing. So today we're going to explore these recent events around national flag incidents. We'll contrast how a leader over in Indonesia handled an upside down flag.
1:31 >> The really interesting case >> with the uh much more contentious reactions we've seen here in Malaysia, particularly from one politician, but we'll also look at a quieter, more pragmatic resolution that also happened right here. >> Good to have that balance. >> Okay, so let's start with Indonesia. They recently gave us well almost a masterclass in calm leadership. During their 80th National Day celebrations, something quite extraordinary happened. >> Yeah, quite the moment. >> Picture this. A public ceremony, flags, national pride, and an employee accidentally hoists the Indonesian national flag upside down. >> Whoops. And for Indonesia, that's a big deal. Their flag is red over white. Inverted, it's Poland's flag, white over red on national day. Yeah, not a small
2:17 mistake, especially with international eyes watching. It could have been a huge PR disaster. >> Exactly. But what's really fascinating here is the response from the local mayor. >> This is the key part. >> So the employee realizes the error, right? Immediately halts the ceremony, corrects the flag. Very composed, apparently. >> Quick thinking, which is important. >> But the mayor's reaction, no anger, no public shaming, no calls for punishment. >> Quite the opposite, actually. >> Yeah. The mayor publicly praised the employee. praise them for their quick thinking, for fixing it so swiftly, >> emphasized that the quick action prevented a well a potentially massive embarrassment, especially given the event national day dignitaries present. >> Right. The mayor framed it as an unintentional oversight, said the timely correction was crucial to avoid, you
3:03 know, the nation being mocked globally for such a basic error during such a big event >> and then used it constructively. >> How so? >> Well, the mayor turned it into a sort of public service announcement. used it as a chance to gently remind all citizens to be careful when hoisting the flag, reinforcing civic duty, but without blame. Education, not condemnation. >> It's just remarkable how smoothly it all went down. No public outrage, no calls for heads to roll, no political points being scored, >> just a mistake, a correction, and a lesson learned, >> quietly managed. >> It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? If that happened here, would it be as calm? We've seen how differently things can unfold. >> Which brings us to the contrast. >> Exactly. Let's pivot to Malaysia. We've
3:49 seen similar flag sensitivities handled very, very differently, particularly by certain politicians. Their approach seems less about solving the problem and more about well, what some analysts are calling scare education. >> Scare education. That's a striking term, but it captures something, doesn't it? >> Explain that a bit more. >> Well, think about raising kids again. You can nurture them with love, understanding, tolerance. Oh, >> let them make mistakes and learn or >> or >> or you raise them through fear, punishment, making them constantly terrified of messing up. Sources suggest that when you build a society or even just a political climate on fear. >> It has consequences, >> big ones. It stifles critical thinking. It kills innovation. People just become too scared to take risks, to try new things, because the consequences for
4:35 even small errors might be incredibly harsh, out of proportion. And how does that connect to national development? >> Well, if this kind of fear-based approach gets traction among leaders, it could seriously hold Malaysia back, hinder our openness, our progress. You look at neighbors like Indonesia. They're evolving, becoming more open, pushing innovation. >> You mentioned Jakarta earlier. >> Yeah. I mean, look at parts of Jakarta. Many see areas there now as more developed, more dynamic than some of our own cities. If we're constantly stuck in these cycles of fear, arguing over symbols, leaders, escalating emotions, of solving problems. >> Exactly. How do we compete? How do we keep pace? It just sucks energy and focus away from the really critical stuff, economy, education, technology. >> But like we said, it's not the only way
5:21 things are handled here. There was another incident in Malaa, much more pragmatic, >> right? A really important counter example. Not all politicians here are using that scare model. >> So what happened in Malaa? A factory flag filmed upside down caused a bit of a stir online. It did. But the local state assemblyman and MO member actually handled it very differently. He didn't just react. >> He investigated >> immediately and found out it wasn't the human error. It wasn't disrespect. Strong winds had just snapped the flag line. Simple equipment failure. >> Ah okay. >> So he publicly clarified the cause. Made a clear accident. Not intentional. Got it fixed. No fuss, no public shaming >> and the outcome >> resolved calmly. No social unrest, no big national distraction. And it just shows there are different leadership
6:06 styles right here. Even within the same parties, rational, pragmatic approaches exist. >> It's a valuable contrast for sure. So moving on, these controversies, especially Akmala's handling of them, they haven't gone unnoticed higher up, have they? >> Oh, definitely not. There have been pretty clear reactions from prominent figures. >> Like who? >> Well, Dto Seri, Dr. Ahmad Zahed Hamidi, the MO president himself has openly criticized Akmal's methods publicly. >> Okay, that's significant. >> And as a party, >> well, it seems like they're trying to put some distance between themselves and Akmal's more, let's say, contentious actions, maybe a strategic move >> and the prime minister >> that Siri Anoir Ibrahim too. He hasn't named names, not directly, but he strongly criticized the divisive nature
6:53 of these flag controversies. He keeps emphasizing the need for unity for more measured responses. >> So why are these top leaders speaking out? Is it just about votes? >> It's likely more complex than just votes, though that's always a factor. I think they see how these issues distract, massively distract >> from the big national agendas, economic recovery, cost of living, reforms. You can't focus on that stuff if everyone's arguing about flags or socks. Plus, it risks alienating that vital middle ground, >> the moderate voters. Exactly. Sources suggest many Malay middle ground voters, you see them on platforms like Tik Tok even, they really disapprove of this confrontational style. They want stability, progress, not constant fighting. >> So there's a risk for the government then if they don't seem to be handling
7:39 these things firmly, >> a significant risk. >> If the perception is that they're hesitant, maybe afraid of losing a certain voter base, they could end up alienating these crucial moderate voters instead. >> How might that play out? could mean lower turnout >> or maybe voters just get disillusioned. They don't necessarily switch to say Paricatan National, but the overall political landscape becomes less stable. It's a tricky balancing act. >> Rafizzy Ramly had an interesting take on this too, didn't he? >> He did. Very insightful. He pointed out that while yes, controversy might get a politician noticed in the short term, maybe rallies a specific base, >> there's a downside, >> a big long-term risk. You get branded. You become the flag politician >> or as Rafi rather pointedly put it, the sock politician.
8:25 >> And that's not a good brand. >> Not really. It trivializes your entire political career. Instead of being known for policy for achievements, you become this figure associated with minor symbolic flare-ups. It makes it hard to be taken seriously on bigger issues down the line. You become a bit of a caricature. >> So the overall message seems to be this needs to stop. >> Well, the sense of urgency is there. These constant controversies, often blown way out of proportion, are a serious drag on national focus. >> We need leaders to step up. >> Seems like it. Take a firm unified stand. Resolve these things decisively. Let the nation move forward. Focus on, you know, building a better future together peacefully. We need bridge builders, not >> not people fanning flames over symbols. >> Precisely. >> Okay. So, summing up, the contrast is
9:11 really stark, isn't it? how leadership styles play out in handling seemingly small things like an upside down flag. It reviews a lot about priorities. >> It absolutely does. Is the priority national unity finding practical solutions or is it emotional escalation? Maybe for other reasons. >> How leaders react to these everyday things? It really does shape society, its future. >> It sets the tone. It determines whether we move forward together resilient or get stuck fragmented. So, the question for everyone listening is, what kind of leadership do you believe best serves Malaysia's journey ahead?
