All Dating Coaches Are Frauds No Exceptions (10 Irrefutable Reasons)

1:42 yeah what's going on man what's going on mot what's going on lawrence hey what's up man we're waiting on uh aegon cool [Music] all right that's everybody

2:28 okay that's good what up yo what up yo what's going on man let me uh get intro then we'll go in um welcome everybody it's uh man tamara here uh thank you for coming through and uh subscribing to my channel today we're gonna discuss uh all dating frauds are frauds no exception i'll explain why uh obviously we looked at this on aegon's channel 1mt uh 10 irrefutable reasons um apparently when i had stepped away when i was watching the stream on aegon's channel apparently aegon that went on the show sort of mr fantastic and i wanted to go over this concept of why this is definitely fraud by these people

3:16 so so that way we don't have to worry about this and i don't care how big you are how small you are the whole thing is just fraud that's what fraud is so i'm going to go over this and you have to understand is it's not about the personalities the people who um associate themselves with this type of uh social pariah ism but it's just it's the same information that's passed around within the environment you don't see anybody um actually practicing this stuff but somehow it's true everywhere and i i don't really understand why this is such a problem for people to just stay away from problematic people

4:02 so give me a second while i go get my tablet got the things that i wrote down so that way we can get started all right all right today we got on the panel uh lawrence guy mike fletcher thanks for the video super chat yes yeah i will be doing this um i'm not going to really go into those guys videos or whatnot because it's just a rabbit hole of nonsense however it's it's something that young men need to watch out for uh we got a lawrence guy we got uh aegon and we got uh asian on here need no introduction these

4:49 guys are well known throughout the uh manosphere over here so you have to understand why this this this needs to be done repeatedly because i'm i'ma tell you up front most black men who cannot point out frauds cannot be trusted period you cannot expect for things within blackmail society to operate right if you can't point out frauds and the type of behavior that you don't need to need around so that way things can operate properly and there's no real need for people who've been mal-raised within this environment to end up in the hands

5:34 of one of these people because they don't understand what they're actually getting into like a person who actually think that having a girl like them is somehow going to fix some type of problem within their life that's just not the case there could be a lot of other things going on and getting access to women is just not going to fix whatever problems that you have going on for you so so you have to recognize that most of the self-esteem issues you have to fix internally but when those issues turn into connecting it to external things like chasing women rather than focusing on your own levels of

6:19 productivity and buying your way into a better marketplace you know that's obviously better off than actually ending up in the hands of one of these uh frauds so um welcome to the panel guys yo thanks helping me hey what's going on man um thanks for having us man yeah we appreciate it all right no problem that's what y'all think of the uh response to the intro uh asian oh man um i think it's uh exactly um um spot on um pretty much i mean you are who you hang around so i mean i don't i'm not a thief so there's no need for me to hang around liars and

7:06 thieves um the your circle reflects uh your ideologies all right uh aegon um it just really shows that no matter uh what uh like status or uh economic standing black men are in all of them are uh capable of going down this path you know guys with no money guys with um master's degrees they all in the envio and some worshiping women type stuff so but the but the one

7:51 thing about the easiest thing about it is that they all have the same type of movements before they end up doing it you know you kind of showed me that and we'll see you and uh you and marco in the way yeah it's kind of sad yeah yeah uh lawrence guy uh went to the show first time on here or maybe second time second time actually uh what's going on man you got uh any response to the intro before we go into the ten things lawrence see there a launch you mute it see if i can um i got it

8:38 my apologies i got it can you hear me now yeah yeah yeah excellent um i was saying uh first of all thanks for having me um at the end of the they're parasites man the parasites these are these are particular type of useless people who set their sights on preying on particularly young men convincing them of things that don't exist and taking their money and everything in the process at the end of the day man just take them out the back and shoot them that's all that's that's what i got on that yeah all right all right so the first thing we're gonna go into is the very first thing is for me personally if you're going to be

9:24 good at something there should be some type of verifiable training or background that you have in a certain particular thing so the first thing we have on this list is asserted expertise as in how does one become one like there is no real path to becoming a dating coach because people don't date today in today's marketplace if you approach a woman for trying to date her in the most traditional sensitive manner you're probably going to get used and abused for your time so if you can't come out and say exactly what you're doing and if you're operating under the

10:10 pseudonym because only the only thing they are sexual access coaches they're not dating coaches no one dates within this marketplace all that much so uh aegon yeah you definitely write about that nobody does and then if you are it's such a low percentage of it you know after women basically got the rights to uh to vote and work for themselves it turned into basically like a free fall that traditional stuff they save date and coach out of tradition to try to keep it up to try to keep up the the look of that aspect of an older time but that stuff is gone

10:56 all right asia yeah to kind of piggyback off what you just said talking to uh what excuse me what aegon just said talking about times before pass well the truth isn't uh somebody else uh in this space has made himself known as mentioned it before um the several fact is uh whenever women got voting rights you simply have no power to exercise authority over them which is the reason why they wanted voting rights to get to the point where they could run rough shot over the men um and this has been going on in the black american conglomerate for hundreds of years um and it's it's pretty you know you pretty much can just uh put a match to it all it's not gonna change

11:44 um well as you said you know they're not there's no such thing as dating anymore i mean dating dating hasn't truly happened in over 30 years to be honest um again i think it's one of those situations in which you can't even you can't really label yourself a dating coach because there's no way to verifiably produce receipts to even say you're such all you're doing is tricking men into getting into the same tired situations and relationships that are going to end in the same results that they always end in like i said parasites take them out all right uh i got everybody on that uh

12:30 for the reason why this is important is um it's it it's very important because a lot of people just don't understand how pervasive that this is okay you sit in your living room or maybe your dungeon or whatever you make these videos you're actually knowing the type of way these people are raised within this environment especially if they're raised in like a single mother home household type of thing she's definitely not going to tell you how women work because you understand how she operates as a person so she leaves you to go out there and get the experience however you get it so that way you could be out of the house by the time you do figure it out so that

13:17 way you can't really look up any of the stuff that she's actually doing so it's like what created this particular problem is the fact that there was no man around in the first place like me raised by my father raised by my grandfather i don't need help talking to or staying away from uncultured women i don't need any help with that and i definitely don't need to be running up behind a wonder woman trying to prove how much of a man i am because you know they do it with like the imagery and all this kind of stuff but at the end of the day they're doing a lot of damage to these people because they're turning these guys into snacks

14:02 for the actual women that to turn them loose in front of that's particularly the problem that i see here because there's no real way of protecting the person to which the information is actually going to and i i don't see a real need for that i mean you know these people need need need job training and skills training so that way they don't end up with the same level of women that these guys repeatedly have to go through within this environment no they need access to better things and i don't think that like like it's an inventory problem you don't fix an inventory problem with access to the inventory you fix an inventory problem with better inventory with better quality of inventory

14:48 and it will solve your problems in the short term but it's going to cause you a hell of a lot of problems in the long term and that's what people just skip over because most of these people are divorced they don't have any level of success they can show you and the things that would normally come with the actual ability to show off a level of success when it comes to that so what you got on that uh aegon yeah um i just think that uh it's sad that uh it's cats that could also give out those skills trainings and uh thing those things that could also help guys preaching this uh this type of a game

15:36 culture or basically trying to feed guys into the system because they want to basically get that easy money so it's a lot more um i wanted to say like uh sinister then it's a lot more mixed up than what it should be where basically you don't just have guys that uh that are about their um their their their skills and um getting their knowledge bases up teaching other men how to do that and helping them they also helping them and selling them drugs at the same time and it's kind of like it's really disheartening that you get that you gotta bet that at such a high level because you think that we will be past this yeah uh asian well the thing is first off uh [ __ ]

16:24 really have no accountability uh for anything um the two individuals you spoke of pretty much keisha and her counterpart um they are the reason for the way things are um and they don't want them to change um they don't want you to be better than them because it has to they had it forces them to actually look in the mirror and realize how [ __ ] up they actually are and that's something that they don't want to do and it's something that they don't want uh the spotlight uh from every other culture put on them as well um even though every other culture knows it um but to actually um to actually hold themselves

17:11 accountable and be better uh is something just takes too much effort and work which they don't care for wow uh lawrence yeah that yeah that's that that's a wild asin uh eisen that that was good that was real good um and then and and i i agree with it wholeheartedly um you know and just add to it it's one of those situations where we've established who who the primary player in this is being the female of course but you got to ask yourself what motivates a man to sell another man out in such a fashion okay as as far as it goes for being coaches they're fully aware of what's going on on out there with women how they're acting how the situation is how

17:58 the market is regardless of value and to willingly just drop men into that on purpose while taking you know money or whatever it is they they get for their services from them is reprehensible it's it's actually it's actually it's like it's it's just it's just reprehensible um and like i said i keep saying it over and over again i keep saying that they're parasites man that's i mean that's literally what they are they're feeding off the hope of others to feed their ego in their pockets and then turn around and walk away and leave that person that they put in that situation in in dire straits i mean there's just no other way to express it that i can think of other than that that's all i got

18:46 yeah it's it's just for me on on this particular uh you know if that was a body of work if there was a level of success that that can be verified you know i wouldn't have a problem with it thanks for the uh 4.99 simple chat uh melody it's it's just that you know it it really didn't get personal to me until like one of these people within the space videos ended up in my nephew's feed and i really just started smashing that dude to pieces and it wasn't the fact of what i was saying it was the fact that that dude had no response to what i was actually saying it was almost like it didn't matter and it's like dude you have to realize

19:33 that there are people out here who are listening to this stuff who who you could put into to a lot of danger and a lot of problems but but it's almost like they don't really care about any of that the allure of the quick money and they don't care about who gets hurt in the process and that's kind of how you got all these people who want to save the community but nobody ever wanted to operate under the rules of a community and that's kind of how we got where we got so it's like on one hand you're supposed to act in complete self-interest regardless of who get hurt and on the other hand everybody's supposed to act like they're a community so it just doesn't make any sense to me yeah yeah it's completely contradictory

20:20 completely contradictory uh thanks for the cash app uh new thing for the cash app all right so uh all right we're gonna go to the uh second thing which is the reason why they're all frauds zero on camera proof of asserted expertise i just bought a gopro hero9 so as it came out i think it was september 16th cost 3.99 5k 30 looks amazing um we haven't seen any of these exploits that these people talk about on camera yet like and you you would think for people who would call themselves some type of professional in the field that they're actually in that there would be an actual

21:07 body of work video that you would be able to see this person surf into an environment in a specific point in time and to show off their actual wares of what they're actually talking about or what they're actually doing and the fact that that hasn't happened yet and these people have been here for a little over three years or more it just shows the piss-poor type of attitude that they bring toward the environment because they just don't think that they have to show any proof and if they believe it they believe it if they don't believe that they don't believe it so uh asian uh yeah you know it just goes to show that these um that the pro well you can pretty much sell anything to black america um based on the simple fact of it

21:54 looking uh cool enough because uh black america is all about style and no substance whatsoever which goes to explain the reason why there is no actual community in black america it's just a conglomerate because the word community uh it refers to a symbiotic partnership where all parties involved benefit but we know that there is no such thing in black america um so you know it's pretty much you know everybody um is out for themselves so you have to uh distance yourself from these people and uh whenever you see them fall you have to leave them down there in the muck that they made for themselves all right um large

22:41 well this one's a little tricky because it it it it also entails three words here uh the first two personal responsibility the third one accountability we know that they haven't shown any proof and anybody who subscribed to them or purchases their products or whatever knows they haven't shown proof you can get away with that the first three to six months but after that if you've been here for three years whoever is following you should have figured it out by now that you're not producing receipts so so did so this one becomes a little tricky for me because it becomes where both sides are responsible one for them putting pushing out wares that are ridiculous and others for continually buying into it without having receipts nobody goes in

23:28 to buy a product without seeing it testing it feeling it knowing what it is nobody buys sight unseen even if you order online you get pictures of the bloody thing you know what i mean so yeah yeah so that's that's that's where my difficult that my difficulty lies and i can't put it all on the coaches because like i said after three years and showing no receipts whoever was following you or buying your product should have figured it out by now that you're not who you say you are yeah clearly so that's where i stand right now uh aegon like the fact that proof of concept isn't a it's still not a part of black culture it's like this is a problem and we always hear over here in 2020 um the the best thing about it is that it's um

24:16 something so small as a is what's happening in this sector but we know what happens in the grander thing so we can check it but um it's been such an extreme problem that's why like i feel like that we have to call it these have these guys have to be shamed they have to be shamed because if they knock they're not going to be shamed they basically um we saw guys hop on that panel and just go all around it you know and basically it's it's the black church all over again everybody's gathered around that real that that that book they believe is real but then supporting a fraud preaching it and we see the ramifications of that and

25:01 it never ends well so it has to be stopped from the jump and that person has to be called out or we are we just like the boomers in the generation before that and the generation before that was solid man that was really solid you're very sad yeah so this is something that i don't get for the third one if they're so good at what they're doing why would they invite more people into the pool so that way they can have

25:47 more competition for what they're doing there's only one reason there's only one simple reason for that no i'm laughing because i'm remembering something from the 80s that's why i started laughing because the same question was asked in the 80s um about something else it was that's why i started laughing i'm sorry um all right i go ahead and launch it first well it's the same thing you know if if all diet look if if all diets work why do you need so many [Laughter] if diets work why do you need so many that's why i started laughing i i remember that um but yeah that's that's that's that's yeah that's that's that's that's just

26:33 absolutely ridiculous that that's something people can't seem to understand um at the end of the day you're promoting yourself to be a coach who's capable of getting any woman anywhere anytime for any reason so you're literally telling us you are the alpha and you can take all the women no man who can take all the women will turn around and share those women let's be real so so so for you to sit here and say you're so good at it that you want to share the information with everyone else is insane because as far as black culture is concerned that's not how it works because as i've said before the the the black community base the men in it based their value of how much

27:20 pricey they can get so they're not going to give it away they're going to build it up so that's that's my take on it yeah so i'm like if all these people value this substance so much and there's such a coveted thing why would they just open the door and just give you personally access to it yeah i mean i mean yeah i mean i mean technically i mean technically he's he's telling you to come to his house open the door and you can come in and [ __ ] all the ass he's got in there that's what he's saying to you wow and no and nobody nobody does that nobody well i'm sorry maybe maybe maybe a pimp but he's going to charge you there's only one reason why it goes down

28:06 um especially in black america simply because the product is tainted as [ __ ] there's no other way to explain it um they um they don't want to see you uh go and get good product so they want to keep so they want you to take on all this good product too because damn uh i'm in misery [ __ ] you got to be miserable with me it's simply here yep drop drop that microphone [Laughter] all right uh aegon yeah um any coach that's trying to teach you not to need him is suspect

28:54 the goal of a coach is to make you better so much better that you don't need him because that proves that he's a great coach but if you have to keep coming back to him it shows that he's trying to control you and if there's so many of these coaches there should be there should be at least one that that that a group of guys went to and they don't go back to them and they basically don't need them anymore but apparently these guys keep coming out more books more different types of ways to pick up chicks and we still see no results but then they keep getting more customers so it's like hold on so we're the customers aren't showing proof of concept so are you guys getting kind and too ashamed to tell everybody

29:40 is that what it is that's what i think it is man you know it and i'm sorry if if i could real quick mot i'd like to i'd like to throw something in there with what aegon said in the very beginning you use the term coach coaches teachers coaches teach discipline there's no discipline in chasing [ __ ] none good coaches do exactly the very kind the very concept of being a good coach is you teach discipline you you you teach the right way and the wrong way of doing things there is no discipline in going out here chasing [ __ ] and collecting [ __ ] it just isn't so so so so just the title they use alone just those that throws it out the window especially mythical amounts because you never see it yeah exactly

30:27 exactly exactly and it's and it's on both sides mythical amounts for what they say they've gotten and mythical amounts for what they say you can get yeah i mean i mean because everybody seemed to have this hidden cachet that people are bragging on it say they got it the people who are teaching from it say they got it so who's really good if everybody's not showing proof everybody's making the claims that they are the man but no one is showing proof of concept well you know also there's something to that mot because um the other thing is too what they would have to show proof

31:12 of um the other thing to uh take into consideration is the simple fact that we know that pretty much 99.9999 percent of them the holes that they would have to show ain't worth [ __ ] um the get your ass to the poll thing that they had for voting just showed that uh when they put warrant out ran through bras owner to advertise for it they nothing about them even looked that good and i'll tell you something else too and this and this this is really going to sound crazy i have seen something that can't that that's come close to a coach and we and we and and so is everyone else the closest the closest thing i've seen to what comes to what could amount to

31:58 being a real coach is el grande that's that's the closest thing i've seen to it yeah yeah hey hey i hate it when you bring him up too yeah they'll be they'll be they'll be all right though you know i'm saying they'll be all right you know what i'm saying they'd be all right yeah they'll be asleep they'll sleep they'll wake up in the morning they'll be all right but but like i said you know if you look at the way he ran his channel if you looked at the way he did his videos he interacted with the women he broke it down for the men he allowed the men to come up and talk on occasions to them and he and and he pushed for it not not in an aggressive way not not in a game way but just be yourself come in here talk etc and so on

32:43 see see that comes across more as a as a coaching aspect to me he's not he's not he's not pushing anywhere she's not trying to make you buy books he's not trying to sell you nothing he's just saying come in be yourself be cool and just talk that's how you run that game but that's not what these guys are doing so so now i just wanted to put that out there so so to some degree people can have a concept of what it should or could possibly look like as opposed to as you know i want them to have something diametrically opposed to what they've been seeing that's what i'm trying to get to yeah so yeah uh hang on did you say anything on this [ __ ] um i think the beauty of this situation is that um

33:30 we could talk about it on both ends because um it kind of shows that basically like uh even the men who could possibly show that type of lifestyle still want to be down with the frauds and why would a man want to be down with men that aren't real if it's not for status and it's a good question because it shows that it's something in a lot of black men to basically throw other black men underneath the bus for like uh for congratulations congratulatory status you know yeah and what and what makes and what

34:17 makes it twice as damning is not only do you have a group of men who are willing to throw other black men under the bus you have a problem when you have massive groups of men who want to willingly do it they want to be under the bus yes that's insane to me you know i mean i mean you i mean you're talking you're talking literally about people willingly going to their own deaths metaphorically speaking i mean well what would you actually expect from men that you have in the space and you hear them say oh it's time uh there's nothing wrong with sitting back and letting the women lead so oh my goodness oh yeah oh my goodness that's fair enough yeah that's fair enough bro you have to cut me so deep man

35:02 [Laughter] yeah no deep man i i've seen him put it in the chat so hey hey it is what it is yeah yeah it is it is it truly is oh that's bad it's so bad i thought we were supposed to be having the discussion not attacking each other you had to cut me like that hey you know me if you don't want me to use it don't put it out there oh man this is sparta now let me stop i'm sorry all right cool i remember going to the uh four four no testimonials on camera from women or about the effectiveness of their product now you think that they would be showing that oh yeah this this type of stuff

35:48 work on because they have access to all these women you think they would be able to produce one right so there there's no on camera anything from women ever so i i don't understand that you can go after you yeah great man you would think that if i know that i'm a fraud and my product is women and i get money from this i should be able to at least pay one woman yes to play the role yes yes yes yes to make these [ __ ] believe but these dudes can't even get one yo

36:33 are they too stupid for real for real they really don't believe in what they selling enough that they can't even pay a chick to peddle that hold on i gotta come in behind you on this one you got it and the whole reason why they can't even do that is because they know these hoes are more butch and masculine than they are um to even offer that i mean these type of women here soft [ __ ] voice don't even work on them half the time oh man so i mean i mean you know you can say it in a nicer way and this hoe was coming

37:19 at you like she's [ __ ] brian urlacher so that's the other reason why so so they're impervious to some [ __ ] yes many of them are we have seen it on here oh damn you called me broke [Laughter] damn wow all right all right let's go to the fifth one man wait a minute wait a minute i i i didn't i didn't say nothing okay all right all right all right all right as simple as this pay me [ __ ] i mean

38:06 no but seriously um seriously though it's it's it's it's just one of those things i actually i don't know how to answer this so i'm gonna i'm gonna ask a question from what i understand and if i'm if i'm incorrect uh correct me please isn't most of these guys who are peddling this locked down with either one woman engaged or married themselves at least so then how are they peddling they can get multiple women all the time when they did when they themselves lock themselves down doesn't that show that they're not capable of doing it so they stuck with the first one they could keep correct okay all right just checking let's check it you know it kind of goes to the old um uh jack leg as preacher um uh sentiment don't do as i do

38:53 do is i teach [ __ ] oh okay oh my god okay i understand that one wow that i don't know i mean i mean because you you would all right you know we're gonna go over that later but you have to understand after the post kind of me too environment there are zero endorsements by any medical professionals psychological professionals or law enforcement professionals i wonder why that is that um they practice this level of fraud and predation within the environment but no actual accolades from the ama american medical association apa american psychological association

39:39 no awards from like law enforcement or anything else it just doesn't make any sense so so it's like you come up with a field of study there's no way to get in no way to get out there's no way to actually have any type of award systems or banquets or anything for your actual industry i mean you know for actors they have the emmys and the espys and tony awards like what do dating coaches do like i i don't understand how come there isn't verified professionals that actually verify this stuff right here well well okay first of all as far as it goes for their award they'll eventually get it after life

40:26 after a lifetime of service which will probably be which will probably be five to ten um but um but but but outside of that what i find fascinating is going back to something you said a minute ago mot where you brought up me too i find it fascinating that they're that as as aggressive as they are these guys are still here um because generally on any other occasion they may they they'd make a big stink about this is promoting you know some kind of you know attack or whatever on on women blah blah blah blah blah so that that's an interesting point when you said that that i don't i i'm wondering why they're they're so quiet on it oh oh it's easy that's easy the reason why these uh me

41:14 too are so quiet on it because they want to make better fisheries yes because they want them to keep they want the they want these [ __ ] to keep feeding them like sheep to the damn slaughter that's all okay all right so okay so what we're talking about is just we're talking about literal sacrifice human sacrifice exactly that's exactly what it is all right i got you i got you yup and um the funny thing about it is that hold on one second your drink was good the funny thing about it nevada is that these guys they come out so hardcore in the beginning and then as soon as they build notoriety they like kind of soften their message because uh they want to build a female audience and also they want to build a

41:59 strong females to pay them more money but also they want to protect they want to protect themselves from what we're talking about but it doesn't even matter when they put the when when dayton coaches become a hot topic issue in this country you're going down no matter what this is true okay that's true that's true that's very true that's valuable if you're collecting any money it's going to be called wire fraud and mail fraud and all types of other problems because you're actually and they'll and they'll attempt then they'll attempt to label it under some some level of prostitution or something like that or sorry whatever so it'll be something like that somehow and uh and and to kind of interject

42:46 i know you asked why they have no uh no functions that they go to no they they do have them they have a well they call these things these um um ah i know these male improvement summits are for all these men that's true that is true so you know you can just improve and then you can go right back to um being this type of guy whenever you want to man that sounds a good deal man oh my dude they got it on a tiered level system some of them anyway it starts out with um a male improvement um seminar then it goes to a male improvement camp and then it jumps to a male improvement

43:31 retreat and just like the levels jump so does the cost of them what yeah i've seen that i've seen that and and mind you that's in addition to buying the books signing up for their personal consultation stuff like this that's all separate i mean but you technically can't be given any type of advice without any sort of license or or or like okay let's say that a person gives business advice right that person if their advice leads somebody to and deleterious result that person is held reliable liable for that type of information that they've given out now now clearly we know that

44:16 this dating coach nonsense is for entertainment purposes only we know that right like but it's not labeled as entertainment right it's not labeled as entertainment you know like whenever you listen to anything so viewer discretion is advised don't try this at home you know if you ever watch them any any any jackass movie they tell you never to try this type of stuff these are trained professionals like there's no warning yeah yeah don't try this at home yeah yeah so there's no warning for any of this type of stuff well so keep going not right i was just gonna say well you

45:03 know um you know i don't know i i take them about the same as i do a lot of these um these women who apply for these um um go to these schools in our uh mental therapists but you know they got five kids uh two or three baby daddies and then dead um i bet you some type of way to be a therapist don't they they do vet i guess you know some type of way but you know i don't know how in the hell somebody uh uh would want to even sit on somebody's couch with uh that type of lifestyle i mean i mean i don't know you asked me i mean the way i look at it if your life is [ __ ] up how you gonna

45:48 help me get my life right and yours ain't yeah wow yeah i guess that's the case man that sounds yeah wow all right we're gonna go on to the next one hey everybody still there yes sir yes sir yes sir all right cool all right [Music] okay like there's a difference between me for me observing behavior in an environment and telling people what to avoid i think that's one thing by itself but i think once you go into the aspect of

46:34 coaching people past a specific level of behavior that's why i think you're kind of taking it kind of way too far because raising a level of awareness there's obviously no liability there but if you're coaching people past a very specific set of things that are happening in an environment dude there's a ton of liability there i don't think these people have liability insurance do you i mean i i don't know yeah no you know [ __ ] don't do insurance okay was he was she was see here's what's interesting though at least from the perspective of insurance you would assume

47:20 that there would be some sort of regulation that that had to be done because if you teach people how to hook up and that ends up being something that goes deadly wrong you know what i'm saying they're gonna back they're gonna backtrack that case to where it all began and that's gonna be you teaching them how to get that person so do you become an accessory do you become an agitator whatever have you made now now maybe i'm wrong because you know you got a whole bunch of online sites that you know hook up set up dating yada yada who really don't have to go through that either but it is a it is a good question i think okay all right so i'm looking online right now

48:08 and i'm looking at a matchmaking institute matchmakinginstitute.com and there's like a six six-step certification process really i yes i don't think they have this for dating coaches at all i don't think so interesting yeah yeah look here i mean you know you have student testimonials and everything right on the page and guess what they're all women yep women women women women yeah so well i'm looking at the past instructors and graduates there's men in here as well yeah um okay

48:54 well you know you bring up an interesting point about the fact that there there are no um consequences for such things um the only thing that comes to mind is the simple fact that um the society and the culture is based in the way that um well let's take it down this scenario for a moment let's say um you have a guy take said woman on a date um you know you know she buys up let's say 80 worth of food and um skips out on him you know just just just vamps on her she's got to go to the bathroom and skips out on her

49:39 dirty day all right now let's take the other scenario let's take another scenario let's say uh you know a man and a woman they go on set date and um let's say the roles are reversed um the man gets 80 worth of food and he dips on her um now in society than to call in a court of law um that man boy throwing him under the jail and not only that he's going to be persecuted in the public court opinion as well now the woman doing the same thing it's all well and legal and we've actually had women we've seen posts of

50:26 it of them saying that men were put on this earth to be used by us [Laughter] so it just goes to show why they can get away with this stuff because of the simple fact that i know i mean they're serving them up i mean but in in this specific case there's like a certification process there's like something formally there so you just can't show up and just assert that you're a coach of some kind well okay well okay well here he here's here's the thing we have to make sure we're not blending the concepts together because see where the dating coaches are

51:11 concerned they're teaching you to go out and try and hit up as many women as possible to collect as many [ __ ] to put in your pocket that's that's that's that's their tactic really at the end of the day however matchmakers are not offering dating what they're offering is getting you hooked up with a long-term person that leads to marriage they're using um as you can see on the site some are licensed master social workers some are psychotherapists some are psychoanalysts et cetera and so on so i i i think i think there's a difference between the idea of what a matchmaker is and what a coach is and i don't really there is i don't i don't think they line up to to be equal or parallel to each other i think they're two distinctively different things when you look at the end result

51:56 um now with that being said however when it comes to coaches at the very least if you're going to claim to be someone who understands the mentality the the mentality and the dynamic of those mentalities between a man and a woman you should at least have something in behavioral psychology at a minimum yeah this is going to end so bad what would i why would i what did i do because with you when mlt said he was on that site and then you said you were looking at the people that were certified like all their background and [ __ ] is not i'm not talking about them i don't i don't count them because they have no legal qualifications they're just certified no no what i'm saying is like this um the psychoanalyst guys like the um like

52:43 the people that um of the of the matchmakers people that basically like all the the psychologists and stuff like that right um i mean they got a biological anthropologist here right right right what i'm saying is that i thought in my brain i only thought of the the the gut like the government coming down on these guys and also um in like in like women's organizations but these dating coaches are cutting into their lane exactly in those match programs so they're going to be pushing them they're going to be throwing these guys under the bus too they have to yeah they have to because basically they're weak they're trying to basically weaken in their professions the reason we can their actual professions of because they have

53:28 certifications for this so when when when the mudslide happens there's gonna be so many people throwing each other under the bus i i thought it was just going i i know it's gonna be bad but not this bad wait no it no it's gonna be bad if as soon as one of them wakes up or as soon as a dating coach has the most ultimate bat ultimate of bad experiences they're gonna come because here's the deal these matchmakers are getting men and women together using whatever sciences they're trained in to make a permanent powerbonding long-term relationship experience these guys are literally detrimental to them being able to do that because they're because they're teaching the opposite they're teaching you

54:14 they're teaching to go out there and get whatever you can as much as you can all you can to help with power bonding right right right and these are multi-million dollar matchmaker people right right and and like like you said before dating is dead so exactly but there's going to be a population of people that still want the thought of traditional dating so that's going to create an industry and people are going to be certified just like you said so with those people being certified with oh damn it doesn't even take for like somebody to be to be be hurt or or murdered and then go back to then goes all it takes is for a dating coach to be great at what he does or basically not great or basically him to become very very popular if he becomes very very popular those

54:59 certified people are going to say who is that who is that obvious obviously and if you have no framework in place because because look this is how this is different those are those are people from the medical field going into matchmaking medical people medical and science like i said there was a biological anthropologist in there man yeah yeah so when you have people who just show up with an internet connection and graphics doing something that trained professionals go into as an aside you're gonna have to explain

55:46 um here's what i propose um the difference is from what i see is that uh these matchmakers run a much better con and a con that will stand up to laws and stuff yeah legal scrutiny um i mean because actually the end result it's almost the same but just it's a little bit different uh what i believe marriage has ended what a rate of about 70 percent or is it 60 it's it's it's it's uh high 70s okay it's high seventies um so these dating uh

56:34 my bad excuse me i'm sorry i'm sorry i got that wrong i'm sorry i'm so sorry you talking about divorce rate is that what you're talking about yes yes yes yes uh it's it's it's somewhere between 55 and 61. it's 70 something for women being the ones who initiate it i'm sorry oh okay and that number has gone down over time because less are getting married um so what that means is that these um relationship coaches or um whatever they're called uh these uh these dating website you know the um these guys are um they're peddling two uh the only difference is um you know like other than what i explained earlier about the laws and them uh being uh within the law is

57:20 that these uh uh okay cupid type [ __ ] they are setting you up for a much bigger uh lick getting taken out of your pocket in the end uh because everybody knows it with the way the laws are now it is um it's it's pretty much life suicide to even consider getting married and um it it's just straight crazy now and then with these uh so-called dating coaches that are peddling off these uh expired uncultured and um unfeminine un submissive women is um the uh what they're doing is you know

58:07 they're trying to make a a buck off you and your need for their validation well yeah but see we we okay but see we we we have we have certain cultural connotations between a matchmaker and a dating coach right right see in in in general society match a matchmaker will always have a how would you put it a better optic because at the end because at the end of the day historically there has been matchmaking between families uh fifedoms and et cetera and so on so that's always gonna have the same thing however with coaches when you have men who are teaching other men to go out there that has a connotation of being a pimp let's let's be real about this yes yes

58:53 so so so we're dealing with two seriously different type of optics here okay so so so the matchmaking because again the matchmaking ends as far as society is concerned and a positive outcome you've got two people together they marry they procreate they follow the american dream or what society considers to be the nuclear family coaching does the exact opposite of that okay okay okay you see what i'm saying i don't honestly i don't know if i explain no no wonderful explanation yeah yeah yeah did that work well mot yeah okay all right all right yeah all right so let's go to the next one [Music]

59:39 okay you can't sell an unproven subjective experience as specific experience to another person i don't understand how you do that like okay if tom brady gave me quarterback lessons i don't become tom brady i become whoever the hell i was before picking up that ball yes yeah [Laughter]

1:00:27 there's nothing to be said man i don't know i i honestly don't know how to add to that i don't know how to add to that me either oh damn i don't know man it seemed like some fake ass dj think i'm mad at dating coaches like i'm not mad at dating coaches i'm pointing out what type of fraud they are it's it's different but you're a piece of [ __ ] and you love people getting money illicitly you can't get that it's crazy all right so open the next one

1:01:13 you have zero liability if something go wrong they just claim misapplication i've never seen a dating coach ever take responsibility for their stuff not going right because it's supposed to be a specific science right well you're supposed to offer your way through it [ __ ] you also forgot about the um alpha masculine senate uh lotion to go along with it yeah yeah that's right yeah let's not forget that yeah let's not forget that soap and perfume that's right yeah yeah yeah you had to take a bubble

1:01:59 bath and like um marinade of the game and you go outside [ __ ] and you outfit your way through it half of your way through a bubblegum go outside and alpha your way through it that's how that breakdown but yeah man yeah it's it's it's in that respect [Music] the way that breaks down is a lot of similarity with what we see when when we talk about the current situation with women in feminism um all action no consequences you know you have no consequences for your bad choices what you did who you

1:02:46 did it to i mean that's literally it to me it's just the same thing in that respect yeah oh man yeah all right so here's the uh one of the next to the last one now judd zilla the beast made this point a long time ago and i think we should bring it up now it should be easy to start over or even higher class of people what i'm saying is if you got all this game why would you play around with the women at the bottom where you could just go get your walmart errors

1:03:32 why on earth would you use your skills to just get lower class women when you can use your skills to get upper-class women so that way you can get off the market well i wonder why they don't do that can i take this one next yes um because i mean um it sounds like to me mot what you're saying is that black families don't matter you want to go next there you go yeah yeah yeah the funny thing about that is that there

1:04:19 i mean like there are really really wealthy black people and these guys who think they would have enough game to get those really really rich black women well young women with all the game they have but if they could do that they would be known exceedingly fast i mean they would be a red alert on these type of cats coming through i mean for one thing it's like your face is out there how are you doing this at a high velocity with somebody type hello my name is blah blah you think a girl doesn't go

1:05:04 i'ma type blah blah's name in the phone and you pop up talking about how you got immaculate game it's like you kind of like you took yourself out of the market by becoming a dating coach and people still believe that you are one just because they know what your face looks like like they do like they can't do an image search on your face and your face pops up boom i'm a dating coach what yeah you got to be willfully ignorant you know it's almost like you know like this is like the worst hide-and-go-seek ever man like you gotta use a better

1:05:51 costume if you wanna really really pull this off like i don't get this man but the fact that they just can't say once i got the so-called game i moved up into higher classes of women like nobody can make that claim everybody's like look i just got sexual access and that's all i got you're right new married dating coaches dating coaches who openly admit that they're in open relationships so he's a cuck so it's like yeah i said that earlier what what yeah yeah yeah i said that earlier because i

1:06:36 had to ask you aren't most of them married or locked down with one woman so if that's the case then what's the point of the coaching game yeah you know i mean i mean you you're you're not you're not even living the lifestyle you're promoting that's the [ __ ] that bugs me the [ __ ] out and that's why i said the thing earlier about personal responsibility once you see somebody who's not living the lifestyle they're trying to sell you it's time to go well well you know you know what marcos right allegedly got access zero proof exactly well fair enough and most of the time what it is what they're doing is uh they're promoting a life that they used to live i mean because let's be honest they're all old and washed up most of them for the most part so they're promoting a life that they used to have uh with women that

1:07:24 used to be a little bit of something back then and i said a little bit of something um so you know what the old folks always told me was used to was called a rooster so i yeah and and here's the funny part the making that statement not you eisen just the statement overall is foolish because it doesn't make a difference whether it's low grade or you move to a higher grade the end result is going to be the same it makes it makes no difference it doesn't make a difference if she's high class low class from this country not from this country a lot of bodies low bodies don't make a difference you get married to one of these broads or hook up with them and knock them up or whatever it is it's the end result is the same across the board in the story so so so truth be told that

1:08:10 that statement makes no sense to me they allegedly have all this game that that kind of shields them from the um consequences kind of like the respawn point yeah yeah yeah yeah and then and and and and and true and you know and seriously this judge zilla dude i don't even like him you know why he always looking at me that's it i'm just playing zillow i'm just playing it man i'm just [ __ ] with you bro but uh but seriously though um yeah like i said that makes no sense man at the stage of the game that everything's going on right now it makes no it makes no difference what level

1:08:55 you go to no matter how much you level up no matter what you acquire no matter what you achieve when you insert a woman into it it's a losing game and probably it's a losing propositioning game done yeah i'm but this is the thing though it's just that you got these guys who are pretty much waving sexual access that they're not getting over guys who don't know any better right and somehow this is supposed to end up being a good deal for the guy because he is ran into the access of a person because they don't want to admit that they've wasted their time

1:09:40 that's what's clear you know what oh my bad go ahead and moti i thought you was done yeah so so it's like apparently everybody wins allegedly kind of maybe but yeah but see here's the thing a discerning man who carries standards and who has standards even if he did meet a higher level woman he would have to immediately ask himself if she's that much higher and of that level of value why is she not with someone um at the age that she is and where she's at in her life and success that's the first question i would have to ask why are you not and did not have to start checking how many divorces have you had

1:10:25 how many relationships have you had i mean that's what i would do you know being being in the head space i am now that's what i would do because you can't just come to me just like the dating coaches you can't just come to me with no receipts and say this is what it is i'm not buying that you know yeah i mean because in this environment with the levels of infinite kind of pain around we're being on the market sounds very suspicious you know um and i just thought of something else to kind of simplify this whole thing a little bit about why these [ __ ] want y'all to come back oh um um they want you to think that you have game so that way you can take care of

1:11:12 their girl definitely yeah that's that hey look that's the thing these [ __ ] want you to pay for this [ __ ] they tired of having to pay for it cause more people walking they got tired of paying for this [ __ ] so they want you to pay for it yeah yeah and and and and and here's the funny part it goes back to something i i think it was you mot we talked about earlier this morning when we were talking about uh real estate training and coaches they're never they're never going to tell you the whole thing because they always want you on the hook to come back for more so these guys these guys can sit here and tell you all day that they're going to teach you how to get all the women you want and then when it don't work like i said they'll either say you didn't apply it properly or offer your way through it

1:11:59 once they realize the person is getting annoyed then we move into the next phase well what maybe what we need to do with you now is maybe we need to take it to the next level and get you to get you in that space now you got to go to now you got to go to the seminar and then you go wait no no no i got you i got you here it is hey look for 39.99 you can buy my part two called soft [ __ ] voice and how to apply it appropriately exactly exactly that's and that's the point i'm trying to make it's gonna be a book to move you to the next thing and they and they're gonna keep doing that and before you know it you've spent ten thousand twenty thousand yeah i've seen some at fifty um before it did oh what oh man

1:12:47 my dude in the early 2000's yeah damn okay to to do a retreat when you to get out there to help you overcome whatever social awkwardness you have how to deal and interact with women and really what it comes down to is you got somebody out there who's making you who's going to make you do by copying the same thing tony robbins does let's run on some fire rocks you know i mean that's that unless i sit in a huddle and talk it out i mean for my dude i'm being serious all the time no i know you are that's why it's so funny you know saying and and that's and that's why that's why i was saying what i did or that's why i keep saying it over and over again yeah we can blame the dating coaches for setting this off but for the love of god

1:13:34 the people who keep coming to him are the ones who perpetuated it yeah i was going to get into that yeah yeah but there's also another perpetuation cycle called the actual dudes who had the kids in the first place not taking care of their kids so that way these dudes have to end up needing this type of help because acceptance from women which they probably never got from their mother is what they see as masculinity somehow yeah yeah that that makes me think about a conversation i believe that zero had with within one time and he was saying that you know um no somebody you know stepfather so you know these guys need to be still fathers and he said to him he was like um

1:14:20 so uh you uh so uh do you still uh you and your baby mama y'all still uh you know pretty much y'all uh still [ __ ] around and then [ __ ] just bust that lever [ __ ] well you you know you know you know yeah yeah you know you know yeah that's real and and those be the same dudes that two conversations before that they'd be having an argument about how black men need to be had brotherhood with each other and he doing and he living like that exactly yep ah man like like most of these dudes

1:15:07 who won't brotherhood ain't worth it man they just want to team up with somebody and then mutiny your ass and hella fire there as soon as they get what they want and these are the main people who's who's talking about politics don't even know what side they own don't even know the history or nothing hey man i don't just want to team up i'm like bro listen man uh teaming up kind of involves you bringing something to the table teaming up doesn't mean taking everything from the table you know you know that's how hoes team up hoes team up in a way to where they team up by coming to the table and taking everything off and somehow men think that they can operate under the same type of principle well because because they're foolish

1:15:54 because first of all it's not a team up it's a it's it's you you you partner you know you want you you want to partner on a project teaming up is for little kids who read comic books with people in colorful spandex that's a team up okay spider-man and doctor strange something like that but um yeah it's it's it's the thing the thing about this nonsense they'll always do that they'll always scream about brotherhood brotherhood brotherhood the first thing is is like you said mot they don't mean it they never have they never will it's just that it's just a it's just a means to an end on getting something something something out of you which you've said before as well because they can't survive on their own

1:16:40 so they need a brother they can feed off of that well see well here's the well here's the thing to that if they require a brotherhood they'll get it the part the the dish the issue they have is they have the same issue as women with pookie and ray ray they're not getting the quality brotherhood you see what i'm saying just like just just like they're not getting a quality woman i'm excuse me the quality man forgive me sorry uh you know well you know i just want to simplify even further the reason why they operate like that because simply they're hoes too absolutely absolutely yeah absolutely because that's really what they're doing the billion coaches are taking the places of mothers and girlfriends by pushing the same propaganda and

1:17:27 trying to convince men to take half broken half used up pose that's that's what they're doing period in the story so did i lose everybody no no i'm here yeah maybe oh no but after i said that it got dead quiet yeah i just muted up for a minute oh okay but um but yeah but yeah that's that that's how i see it they're just they're just simply taking the place of girlfriends and and mothers and and and and male feminists white knights in the whole nine yards oh

1:18:12 come on man it don't matter if she got full kids man you know you ain't here for that man just hook up with her look dude don't matter what her face look like exactly you know and i'm getting i'm going to say something i don't know if you guys can but mot mot will definitely get it remember what we used to say in the military don't worry about her face man throw the flag over it and [ __ ] her yeah yeah yeah i i got a i got a better one to to sum it up get in where you fit in [ __ ] yeah okay wow that's crazy all right so let's go to the next one which is the last one on the list and this this one would make a lot of

1:18:59 more sense more sense than anything else on this list why would they give all of this secret information in the wide open so women can see it because they're undercover spies because the women know what they're doing i mean the women they thank you they got the they got the men out here giving out false information and then the and then the data those those men collect on the other men they convinced gets passed on to the women like i think mlt said something about this earlier um a couple a year ago when he said when you get audience when you come to a woman with all these catchphrases and games

1:19:44 she's going to swear i heard all this [ __ ] yeah she's she's going to smile at you not because she's a muse she smiled because you speaking the language that you that you already submitted yeah you're speaking her language yep exactly exactly yup that's exactly what that is you nailed that [ __ ] they gone that's exactly what the [ __ ] that is well and the other thing the reason why they go out and do it in front of her i mean what i mean i mean what does a uh what does the pet owner want to do they want to see they want to see their pet being obedient as they were instructed and talk and then trixx is icing on the cake yeah absolutely yeah yeah sit fetch roll over yeah good boy

1:20:32 who's a good boy pretty much just said something that i heard 45 times this week yeah but yeah yeah but but yeah aegon got it man they're they're teaching they're teaching these these brothers how to speak submission yeah the code the coach the coaches pre-trained them already gave him the keywords to say and the whole nine yards that's right i mean aegon nailed it man that's exactly what that [ __ ] is that's right because you supposed to go

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