Digimon: The Movie!

Brief Summary

In this episode of The Liberal Artist podcast, Body Papula and Kaye Horowitz discuss the new Nintendo Switch 2, the increasing cost of video games, and the phenomenon of scalpers. They then transition into a discussion about the evolution of video games, highlighting the success of indie games and the charm of glitchy games like the Oblivion remake. The main focus of the episode is a review of the Digimon movie, analyzing its unique blend of spliced storylines, dubbing, and soundtrack.

  • The hosts discuss the new Nintendo Switch 2 and the rising costs of video games.
  • They explore the current state and future of video games, including the indie scene and remakes.
  • The main topic is a detailed review of the Digimon movie, covering its history, structure, and cultural impact.

Intro

Body Papula and Kaye Horowitz introduce the episode, mentioning the absence of editor Gibby. They briefly touch on the topic of the Nintendo Switch 2 and the increasing prices of video games before diving into the main content.

Nintendo Switch 2 and Video Game Costs

The hosts discuss the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2, noting its high demand and price point, which is around $500 due to tariffs. They criticize Nintendo's decision to price new games at $80, expressing frustration with consumers who complain about the cost but still pre-order the console, thus validating the pricing strategy. They also anticipate scalpers taking advantage of the demand. The conversation touches on the broader issue of video game development costs and the expectation for high-quality games.

The Evolution of Video Games

The discussion shifts to the evolution of video games, highlighting the success of indie games and the desire for unique stories and gameplay. They reference Microsoft's acquisition of Activision and a statistic about PlayStation owners primarily playing Call of Duty. The hosts explore the idea of studios focusing on niche themes and the unexpected success of the Oblivion remake, attributing its charm to the game's inherent glitches and the sense of discovery it offers. They suggest that the future of gaming involves creating sandboxes with slightly flawed physics, allowing for emergent and humorous gameplay experiences.

Sci-Fi Month and Digimon Introduction

The hosts announce that May is sci-fi month and introduce the topic of Digimon, framing it as a sci-fi franchise. Kaye Horowitz admits her limited knowledge of Digimon, only knowing about the character Sora. Body Papula provides a quick primer on Digimon, explaining its origins as a male equivalent to Tamagotchis and its evolution into a media franchise. He contrasts Digimon with Pokémon, noting that Digimon always felt more honest and dangerous, with a focus on the player's responsibility to care for their digital monster.

Digimon's Unique Appeal and Cultural Context

The hosts continue to discuss Digimon's unique appeal, highlighting its darker tone and the sense of danger it conveys compared to Pokémon. They note Digimon's place in the late 90s and early 2000s media landscape, intersecting with themes of kids, the internet, and cyber worlds. Body Papula explains that Digimon were designed to appeal to both Japanese and Western audiences, with the Western appeal manifesting in more metal, guns, and sometimes more tits as the Digimon evolved.

Digimon's Longevity and Series Structure

The discussion covers Digimon's surprising longevity and its distribution history in the US. Body Papula highlights Digimon's unique series structure, where each season follows a different set of kids, creating a sense of continuity and crossover potential. He expresses his appreciation for the series' willingness to break the timeline and bring back characters from previous seasons.

The Making of the Digimon Movie

The hosts transition to discussing the Digimon movie, revealing that it was created by splicing together three short films due to a contract obligation and the success of the first Pokémon movie. The writers had to rewrite and edit the shorts into a coherent movie, resulting in a unique and somewhat disjointed final product.

First Impressions of the Digimon Movie

Kaye Horowitz shares her initial impressions of the Digimon movie, noting the distinct style of each act and the overall disjointed feel. She points out the upgraded animation quality compared to the TV show but struggles to find a cohesive narrative thread. The hosts discuss the movie's structure, with the first part serving as a prequel, the second part involving a kaiju fight, and the third part introducing a new character.

Part 1: Prequel and Voice Acting

The hosts analyze the first part of the movie, which serves as a prequel to the series. Kaye Horowitz describes her initial confusion and jump scares, particularly from recognizing voice actors from other franchises. They discuss the over-the-top voice acting and the surprisingly articulate dialogue of the toddler characters. Body Papula explains that the writers added punchlines and then justified them as they went, resulting in a unique and humorous script.

Part 2: Our War Game and Tonal Whiplash

The discussion moves to the second part of the movie, "Our War Game," which takes place between the first and second seasons. Kaye Horowitz notes the dramatic stakes and the tonal whiplash, with the story quickly escalating from summer vacation problems to an imminent nuclear disaster. The hosts highlight the humor in the writing, with jokes and slice-of-life moments interspersed with the high-stakes plot. They also praise the animation quality and the iconic Omnimon transformation.

Horror Elements and Y2K Bug

The hosts explore the horror elements in "Our War Game," noting the suspenseful build-up and the creepy design of the Digimon villains. They discuss how the movie taps into the anxieties of the late 90s, particularly the Y2K bug and the growing reliance on the internet. Body Papula points out that Digimon has always had a sense of danger that Pokémon lacks, bordering on the horrific.

Humorous Moments and Scripted Improv

The hosts highlight some of their favorite humorous moments from "Our War Game," including the robotic operator line, the semiconductor joke, and the health food craze. They discuss the fine line between scripted jokes and improvised lines, praising the writers' ability to create absurd and well-timed humor.

Part 3: Present Day and Willis

The hosts transition to the third part of the movie, "Present Day," which they consider the weakest. This part centers around Willis, a character who doesn't exist in the series but is retroactively inserted into the narrative. Kaye Horowitz expresses confusion about the new characters and the less engaging plot. Body Papula explains that the writers tried to make Willis important by referencing him in earlier parts of the movie, but ultimately, the third act falls flat.

Censorship and Story Inconsistencies

The hosts discuss the censorship and translation issues in "Present Day," noting the attempts to Americanize the story and make it safe for kids. They point out inconsistencies in the plot and character motivations, highlighting a moment where Davis cries over Willis's backstory but quickly recovers. Body Papula recalls realizing as a child that the story beats didn't quite line up.

Soundtrack and Final Thoughts

The hosts rave about the movie's soundtrack, praising its eclectic mix of 90s and 2000s pop, rock, and ska. Kaye Horowitz expresses her love for the unexpected song choices, including "Funk Soul Brother" and "All Star." Body Papula notes that the soundtrack is a time capsule of what was popular music at the time. They conclude by recommending the movie as a fun and awful experience, praising its humor and absurdity.

Outro

The hosts wrap up the episode, reminding listeners to follow them on social media and give them five stars on Apple Music. They tease the next episode, where they will design their Digimon personas. They also include a PSA about not hitchhiking and not abusing substances.

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0:00 [Music] Good morning, afternoon, good evening. Welcome back to the Liberal Artist podcast. I your host Body Papula and with me I have Kaye Horowitz. Hello. And we have locked Gibby in the editor's basement. He's not joining us this week. Haley Bodio, tell me why. Ain't nothing but a heartache. I I had it. I had it. I had something to

0:45 say. I lost it. It's gone. I'm here to ruin your day. That's my job. H I was going to mention something. Uh, tell me why I should buy a Nintendo Switch 2. You know, as much as I hate to admit it, they did kind of sell me on the Mario Kart you can play as a mumu. Like like I'm like, okay, arguably I will say as as not like a religious Mario Carter. Um, some people certainly are more dedicated than myself, but overall, you're only a Christmas and Easter Mario Kart player. And so, it's that like, you know what, on the whole, it does seem like each one of these has gotten better

1:32 in the last like 10 years. I know that was not always the case between like the handheld ones and then the Wii and then eventually the Switch. We we're finally seeming to be moving in a linear progression, but yeah. I know there was some of those like expanded like capacity and maps and characters honestly that I'm like okay no it looks like you've done what you did with uh Super Eight where it's the like yeah we're kind of upping the upping the stakes all around here. It's not just a look at this one new thing and we're expecting you to pay like however much for the game just for the one thing versus the like oh there's a lot here that is tempting. I'm not

2:20 gonna I'm actually I'm with you on normally wanting to blame Nintendo for a lot of things and I still do, but this time I'm like, "No, actually Nintendo, I I can't be that mad at you." Uh because of the cost of the game, because of the cost of everything. I know I can. I can. But I I am sure and I'm sure if there was a different stake in the political climate that it would probably still be bad and it would probably still be typically Nintendo price gougy. But in this current moment, I'm I'm like, you know, I'm sure some of that typical Nintendo spirit involved in here, but at a certain point, it's that like almost $100 for a game. Even that's a that's a little ridiculous even for you lot. So,

3:08 for the uninformed, uh, there's a new Nintendo Switch coming out. Everybody's got everybody went crazy for it. The cost of which was originally, I believe, somewhere around $400. Yeah, like between $400500, I think, with fees. Well, since the tariffs went in, thanks, El Presidente. They had then increased the g the cost of the console by about $100. So, the console's going to run you about 500 big ones. Yep. Um, outside of that, Nintendo uh finally took the and video games were always in this uh direction, but Nintendo has the brand power and the IP power to say, "Hey, all of our games are $80 going forward," which is insane. Which this is where I get nerd mad, not also at Nintendo cuz [ __ ] Nintendo, but also at nerds because

3:55 everybody's like, "This is unacceptable. You can't do this anyway." Yeah, this is so expensive. And then the switch to sells out before pre-orders dropped and literally within 5 seconds every website broke crash and and they were completely sold out of pre-orders. Yeah, you [ __ ] are idiots. Stop complaining about the problem when you are the Yeah, dude. I get really frustrated when people don't. It's like, hey, these companies listen with their wallets, not their ears. So you can [ __ ] and moan about it on Twitter, but if you go and like you're the first one in line to break the Best Buy website, then you just validated everything they did, you know? And like I get there's going to be scalpers with everything Nintendo with everything new games

4:42 happen. Like we all remember the PS5 [ __ ] show that lasted for two years pretty much it seemed like. So, it's it's that like, you know, I'm not like blaming everyone who's gone in, but like I am a little bit like I'm willing to I'll die on that hill. I'm willing to bet half of the pre-orders are going to be like scalped uh uh consoles sold for ridiculously high prices once the rest of everybody else's pre-orders show up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is an insane level of Yeah, it's cool. And I'm going to be skeptical and say there's probably still going to be just just as bad Joy-Con drift in this new one that there is to the old one. But like now the

5:27 JoyCons are as expensive as the game. So it's going to cost you like $80 just an extra set of JoyCons or a new Nintendo game. Your pick. I get it, man. Developing video games is hard and expensive. And like you were saying with Mario Kart, because in Nintendo's defense, right, they don't miss, right? Most of their games are very very time, especially recently, it's been a like, hey, no, it's not like you're just giving us one new thing and and expecting us to to worship the ground you walk on like some companies. Oh, let's just do Black Ops again. Let's just do Black Ops again. You know, there's a wild stat. So, a while ago, Microsoft was buying

6:14 Activision. Uh, and everybody freaked out. Uh, mostly Sony. They did this wild stat. They were like, "Hey, you guys can't buy Activision because Call of Duty is the PlayStation's biggest franchise." And they were like, "No, no, it's not." And Sony was like, "Yes, it is. We pulled this statistic. About 19% of PlayStation owners have only played a Call of Duty game, which is crazy. Imagine paying 700 bones for a console just to boot up COD. That's crazy, dude. At the very least, can you play Spider-Man or something? That's what I'm saying. There's other games to play. There is life outside

7:00 your apartment. And 12y olds won't call you slurs on those games, man. Like, there's other stuff you could get your hands on. Like, dare I say, you could get called slurs by 12y olds in Overwatch. Boot up some Marvel Rivals or Fortnite. They'll call you whatever you want, man. They'll talk dirty to you. For real. For real. No. I honestly I want to see in this evolution of like where do games go from here kind of like discourse that's happening because on the one hand the indie scene is having a big hit of of just like hey this is a small like one person to 20 people having made this game and you can get it on Steam and

7:46 maybe it'll cost you anywhere from 10 to 50 bucks depending on the kind of game and and exactly indie hits have just been dropping banger after banger after banger or those that have come from like indie developed like uh uh think tanks or or studios that are getting backed with AAA support. Um, which I I believe like South of Midnight was one of those where it was like, yeah, somebody else was coming up with this idea and then we got the backing and the ability to make this with the means of a AAA uh uh quality uh studio and and all of those accutra that come with it. between between that where it's this like hey we're telling stories about like persons of ident like identities that aren't like given the center spotlight a whole lot and in styles that are unique like

8:33 people want a unique gameplay or fun storyline whatever whatever we're giving them these things and then they're still going to [ __ ] and moan because it's not a white dude or a white girl with jiggly boobs but between that of like hey let's explore niche things I want studios to look at what's happened with this re re-release of Oblivion. Yeah. And see that not only did Bethesda go, "All right, yeah, look, a remake." It's still just as shitty as the original. And that's the charm. And that's the thing they went, "No, but we can't fix that because that's what this game became known for. If we fix it, we're going to drive ourselves into the grave." I think there's because I've been I bought the

9:20 Oblivion Oblivion Oblivion remake violin. I bought the violin and played against the devil in a rap battle. I I bought the Oblivion um remake on like the day it dropped. I threw down 50 bucks and I was like you and my brother back toback I saw like on screen playing. I'm like, "God damn it, I'm never going to see my friends and family again." It's weird, man. Um, I've been thinking about what makes those games exceptional. A long time ago when those games like first came out. Yeah. Or not when they first came out rather. It was around the time of Skyrim. Um, Assassin's Creed was first starting to get like highly scrutinized for their game quality. And I was in I was arguing with a friend about it and he's like, "Okay, why does

10:05 everybody bite at every glitch and error in Assassin's Creed? Meanwhile, I could boot up Skyrim, make my dude do 18 back flips on top of a dragon, and people are they freak the [ __ ] out. It's great. And I think it's just like he gets to get away with it in Sky in Oblivion and Fallout, but god forbid anybody else has a glitchy game. I I I think it's the the inherent design, right? Oblivion is a [ __ ] up game. The people are weird. The world doesn't make a lot of sense. The voice acting is [ __ ] But it's a game about exploring the world. And there's so many details at the margin. There are these 10page books. Some have puzzles in them. Characters have

10:52 schedules and you can sneak up and find people. Sometimes cutscenes won't proc the right way. Sometimes stuff won't work out. But there's so many details at the margins that a game when you run into something that's particularly out of place. Uh it feels like you discovered it. Whereas Assassin's Creed is supposed to be like this highly curated run around the city, jump on top of a building, kill this guy without being seen. Right. It's it's weird to say that I people can feel the intentions behind the a piece. Yeah. You know, like Oblivion remake. If people are listening to this and like, "Oh, should I buy I'm like, "No, wait till that shit's on sale or something. It was not worth 50 bucks cuz it's not like they changed the game. It just looks prettier." Yeah, they like

11:39 threw it through probably some program up the up the res resolution. Um, if you don't have like a brand new PC, you also have really have to [ __ ] with the settings because that [ __ ] will not run properly. It's something about exploring and finding like those weird situations or watching your horse break is is just is wholesome, man. I think that's the secret, though. I think the secret to the next step of gaming is horses because hear me out. You're talking about a clean like beautiful explorable world with a purpose like Assassin's Creed. Sure. Like I'm thinking of I'm thinking of Red Dead 2 where the funniest [ __ ] that happens is when the like four-legged animals just don't work like the horses or the deer. I'm

12:24 thinking of that one recorded snippet that just went around the internet of the like plotting along and you find the woman in the woods. It's like, "Can you help me? My horse up and died." And then she gets taken out by a deer. like character dead. The Red Dead has that same same uh leeway, right? It's about the exploring that world. So, when you're going through this like uh ambient sub quest, right? Somebody shows up like, "Can you get me to ride to town?" Yeah, man. And they get [ __ ] moshed by a deer or a train. Oh, yeah. Like, and that's that's the secret sauce. Don't make games like about people and the human story. Make it

13:10 about humans observing the ways that [ __ ] can just get so [ __ ] up and uncanny, right, in a matter of moments. Put people in a sandbox, make the physics work a little bit wrong, and yeah, it's a fun video game. You got to talk. Speaking of only I knew how to code. Uh, speaking of video games, it's sci-fi month. It's May. It's going to be May. Oh, on the day of recording this, uh, Kaye, my friend, may the fourth be with you. It's it's it's the dumbest reason to be like, "Yeah, this is a faux holiday." This

13:55 sounds like the thing they say in that movie, some of us like, "It's sci-fi month." Yay. So, uh, space opera month, too. Yeah. We count them as the same. Yeah, we count them as the same here on the podcast. Sci-fi, space operas. Um, it's all there. Kaylee and I were, you know, in in the lab pondering what should we cook up and then I said, "Yo, Digimon's technically sci-fi." So, here we are, baby. It's Digimon the movie. [Music] Justice [Music] change the digital world. Here I was

14:42 going, "Oh, Bo and I can do Kingdom Hearts Part Two, Electric Booaloo, just to torment editor Gibby." But no, no. I was like, "Let me break Kayle's entire reality." You want to talk about weird physics? Kaylee, tell me what you know about Digimon. I know there's a girl named Sora because when I was first getting into fandom and being like, "Oh, like I like this character in Kingdom Hearts, Sora," and going, "Who's this? I don't know what this thing is, but I guess bucket added little tweak." Yeah, same thing. Oh, okay. Got it. I I knew it existed in the like same periphery of like Japanese dubbed shows getting put into the Cartoon Network pipeline. Um

15:28 although this one also more was started in like the four kids side of the WB 4Kids whatever block of television it kept getting renamed into versus like Pokemon was pretty much just always on Cartoon Network but the like oh okay it's another show of like kids with monsters that fight each other. Okay, sure. Had never watched any of the episodes. Yeah. Knew there were a surprising amount of movies for this franchise but watched none of them. Yeah. There's like Oh, I know Pokemon monsters. Like my my my brother was a big Pokemon kid, so I was like aware of it fairly often of of the new generations of like new new Pokemon

16:14 added to the roster. Looking at Digimon, I was like, why is this one just a dinosaur? Or why is this like a stuffed animal with guns? And then suddenly when they evolve a certain point, why do they look like different spin-off franchises of the Transformers? Yeah, dude. Okay. Like that's it. So Digimon, let's do a little quick primer. Um a quick history. So Digimon, obviously it's uh closest contemporary is Pokemon. just because like you said it was kids capturing monsters level nine. These are computer monsters though. They're digital. So Digimon originally um was created as not a contemporary to challenge Pokemon but as

17:00 a male equivalent to Tamagotchis if you remember those. So Tamagotchis for those who uh don't know were um back in the mid early 90s digital pets. basically a little toy where you had a pet and then you had to like clean up after it and do all this stuff and if you forgot about it, it died. It died and then you had to buy a new Tamagashi. Digimon um was the exact same thing for boys. Um the difference be you do all the same stuff. The difference being this one is blue and they could now your monsters can fight each other. As it went on and became successful, then they started developing the whole media franchise with the anime and the cards and all that stuff. That's how it got its uh viewpoint, right? In ter when terms of

17:46 like monster collecting, uh it was that's never the intention. Here's what I like about Digimon, right? Cuz obviously his closest contemporary is Digi is Pokemon, right? Pokemon precedes Digimon by a year. Uh Pokemon came out in Japan in 96. Digimon came out in uh Japan in 97. Um and then it's like pocket monsters, pocket monsters, digital monsters. I feel like we're very far away from remembering that Pokemon is two words like smashed together. Like they're just Pokemon now. It's entered the lexicon. Sorry, Digimon. But for me, Digimon was cool in that Digimon didn't lie to you. It always felt like Pokemon was lying to you, right? They had got to catch them all

18:32 from the beginning which is was it was infeasible from the start right because like there was 150 of them knowing the number every generation it's like yeah here's 100 more how am I supposed to catch God is a Pokemon whereas Digimon um was always like yeah you get one and you have to take care of it. Pokemon uh skips a lot of the these are your pets, right? Cuz Pokemon doesn't want to get caught up in that. There's six of them. You will have six of them at the time and you're supposed to collect a bunch and send them to your granddad's house or some [ __ ] Whereas Digimon is like, you get one, it is a baby. It poops. It needs to eat. If you don't take care of it, it dies. Or even

19:19 worse, it turns into a Digimon that is literally poop and is a jerk. Pokemon also has this because they're both about kids with their animals getting going on adventures. Pokemon never had a sense of danger. Digimon was always in a sense of no, these things will kill you because yeah, we have our cute Digimon that are complete. They could talk to you. They could tell you their needs and they will tell you their needs. If they get hungry, they're not going to do anything. Uh the second they get past that, they are monsters. They are kaiju. They are trying to eat you. They are throwing lightning and disrupting everything. As a what nine-year-old when I was watching this stuff, um it felt like the big kids version of Pokemon. It was never quite as cool, but I appreciated that. Honestly, kind of

20:04 looking in the landscape of like late 90s, 2000s media that explores these ideas of like kids, the internet, cyber worlds, like other realities through digital means or strange kind of like fantastical monsters and other creatures. like Digimon kind of sits at this weird intersection of like Pokemon meets Code Leyoko meets like a little bit of like Beyblade or Yu-Gi-Oh and not just because it's like oh we fight things but like there's different ways in which there it feels like there's something actually at stake or dangerous about this encounter with these creatures. Um, and and also then just the like the way

20:49 that the the digital world crosses over into reality and and this strange like oh there's a there's causes and effects here though. Okay. Yeah. So Digimon come from the digital world. They come from the internet kind of um as opposed to being part of the natural world which also adds to that sense of danger I think because it's like oh these things aren't supposed to exist but for some reason they do. Yeah. Uh, and that's our problem. And like you said, they it did come at this um time of the late 90s, early 2000s where the internet was starting to skyrocket. Um, it's funny cuz when they were designing like actual Digimon for like expanding the card game and giving them more more of a presence than just the little two-bit sprites

21:36 you'd get on your Tamagotchi. Yeah. Um, that was the time when American and Japanese media was really starting to intersect. So, Digimon specifically were designed to appeal to both a Japanese and a Western audience. And it's hilarious to me that their idea of appealing to a Western audience was as they get bigger, they get more metal, more guns, and sometimes more tits. And that's Digimon, baby. Who's more gun? This here's a little dude now. Now he's slightly bigger and his arms are cannons. Oh, I love I love I love it. It's so stupid. It's so dumb. Uh but I'll let my child go play with that. Sure. It goes back to being a little dude when it's done. Okay. Uh but um

22:24 Digimon was oddly successful. Yes. It was always Pokemon's little brother. It It hasn't had it's it has it's had a weird longevity. Yeah. Um, it was originally distributed in the US by Sabon Entertainment, the Power Rangers guys. Um, under Fox Kids, uh, a Fox Box under the Fox programming. Sabon eventually got sold to Disney. Um, so Disney So Disney took to Disney took the the licensing. Yeah. At least for the anime and whatnot for the Digimon series. And it was on ABC Family for a little bit. It was on uh Jedex if you remember that Disney. Yeah, I knew you would remember that. I didn't realize

23:09 that was also where it went to live for a while though. For a long time. Um and then the property proper is owned by uh Ban Bondi Bondi slash Bondi Namco, whatever you want to call it now. They still have series coming out. They still have anime series coming out in Japan. Um, I don't know if they're still getting translated and and they I think they actually they still have a steady stream of video games. They have a new G Digimon game coming out this year. Yeah. Which is insane. Um, Digimon Digimon's crazy, man. It's one of those things that it feels dated. Like, it feels so dated looking at it and then just being like, and you're still going. It's like you guys are still getting it. They had a huge event for their 20th anniversary a couple

23:54 years back where they like they continued the story of the original kids because Digimon does this cool thing. I'm going to fanboy about Digimon real quick. Digimon does this cool thing whereas with Pokemon we followed um Ash for 20 plus years until he finally won. He can retire now. Um, with Digimon, every um, series, season, arc, whatever you want to call call it, follows a different set of kids. Um, the first two follow each other sequentially, but after that it goes to a completely different universe. So, you have the first set of kids. Two years later, we have the next set of kids. And then for season three, it's a

24:43 universe where the main characters of the third season watched the show of the first two seasons and they're fans of Digimon and they play the Digimon card game and then they actually find Digimon. The third se the fourth season does the same thing. The fifth season does a thing where it's like, "Yeah, these guys are Digimon. Nobody knows what they are, but they're like secret agents." Um, and then at one point they do the thing, uh, one point they do the thing where they're like, "Hey, this is the newest season of Digimon. In the last episode, we've broken the timeline and all of the main characters are back together fighting the bad guy." And you're like, crossover, yes. Uh, I love that kind of [ __ ] though

25:30 where it's that like, hey, what if our game exists in the place that the game is like based on? Like that's mindbending. It's No, I was going to say you did. You stretched that mind [ __ ] out to a certain extent and suddenly it is a little bit of like, oh, what high concept ass [ __ ] are we doing here with Digimon? Like we might actually like do it's a lot of TV. That's the thing. I'm like this is almost as bad as One Piece from my understanding. Uh each season runs about 50 episodes. I I was like man we should do the third season for um the podcast cuz the third season is very Digimon Tamers is very good. Anyway,

26:15 that's all the primer because we didn't watch Digimon. We watched Digimon the movie movie. Um, so for Kaylee, because Kaylee went into this blind. Kaye had never seen anything for Digimon. Nope. Ever. I'm about to clear up a lot of stuff for you. So Digimon the movie, the American version. Yeah. So the the two main writers translators for Digimon, um, they're on contract. The second season is just ending. It's 19 It's 1999. Um, and and they're negotiating a contract for the third season, how they're going to write that, who what actors they're going to use, um, how they're going to get paid. And they're like, "Oh, hey, by by the way, on our contract, uh, there's

27:01 something for a Digimon movie. Uh, cuz Pokemon is about to come out with Pokemon the first movie banger, and you know, we got to do something. We got to have a banger, too." who they say. So, the source material, the Japanese version, had no movie, but they had two 20 minute short films and one hourong short film. Correction, a 20-minute short film, a 40-minute short film, and an hourong short film. So they go to the head of Sabon and it's like, "Hey, we can translate these, put them out as DVD extras, make a little make a little extra cash, get on DVD sales or VHS VHS sales at the time." Yeah. At the time. Um, and the head of Zapon said, "No, make me a movie."

27:47 They said, "Okay." So what they ended up doing was taking these three short films, editing them, and splicing them and rewriting them together into one movie that is so far from the three original products that is considered its own thing. And that's how you end up with the Digimon movie. 1999's Digimon 2000. Yeah, 2000. Correction. Was it October 6th? October 6. It's on the K. It's on I know. I only know that because of the poster. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, this [ __ ] sucks. But I love it so dearly. So, it's three movies mashed

28:34 into one with all the 2099 [ __ ] you could ever ask for. It's like my favorite thing in theater where it's that like a new play. Why do I get the suspicion that this is just like four 10 minutes in a trench coat? [Music] So, like we said, uh Kaylee went into this blind. Kaylee, what you think? I don't know what I watched. Like, I do, but I I don't know what to walk away from each of those three acts with, I guess. And I think it's because you could tell the style is that like, oh, this is a TV show that

29:21 got some like movie quality like upgrade money or focus. Like even if the budget wasn't increased by that much, it's that like, oh, we're doing like dramatic shading and and lighting effects in ways that we don't do with the TV show all the time. I was kind of thinking of Pokemon the first movie in the back of my mind because it's that like similar style of like it's like the TV character designs but they're cooler. They they more like there's more frames. Yeah, there's more frames. It's It feels special and and just thinking about that in the background of what I'm watching like I those movies all over the place, man. Like we said, it's three movies mashed

30:09 into one. Three unrelated movies outside of being Digimon mashed into one. So what the writer? I thought the first Well, I thought the first part cuz it's the like, hey, here's here's actually something that would be that kind of interesting like here's how this all got started because the show is like in media res. We're just like going with the concept of we just have these digital monsters and this is just what we do and we're a team. um having that like, oh, actually here's like how we this came to be. Drop us into a kaiju fight, but let's go back in time and then drop us into a kaiju fight and then go back in time 24 hours early. And they get back to the same kaiju fight. I was like, okay, what are we doing? And we called open saying we

30:55 were going back to the past. Why are we doing a flashback and a flashback? And this is how I knew that I was in for a trip. um was the like not I've seen I've seen the art. I've seen the style of the Digimon. I've heard the the thief song. The thief song's a [ __ ] banger. It's annoying as hell after a loop of like two minutes, but the digital monster. I was like, I know that. And every time it would come up, I'm like, oh yeah. But having heard literally nothing else, I was like jump scared firstly um by was it uh Kari Krie Ki? Yes, Ki her her

31:40 starting the narration because I went Haru Beast Stars, what are you doing here? Just like I know this voice actor and I know she does other things. Um more Kingdom Hearts. She's uh uh Churami Jeremy um the little the little little tiger little fairy creature thing that was like I'm blanking on your name but I know your voice but just got jump scared by that and then oh Gman are we talk are we still talking about Digimon what where are we I'm talking about K's voice K voice actor yes um is like two things that I like recognized after like a brief momentary like jump scare whiplash was like, "Oh, okay. You Yeah. Um, but

32:29 then got floored mentally with the we're opening with the kaiju fight and be like, "Oh, it's Mothra and and Godzilla." I mean, it's a T-Rex, but like I don't I don't know the Digimon names. My apologies. I'm just going to call them weird animal names that spring to mind. I'm so sorry to any diehard Digi fans. I'll throw I'll throw in um the names where I know who I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But in the middle of this fight, it's the like voice actor jump scare and then Oh, okay. There's a fight going on. I I had to pause and like put my face in my hands at just hearing the like crash

33:17 boom of the like, oh my god, it's just a guy. He's just a dude. He's like Pokemon like all of the like Pokemon sounds for the most part. But I don't know how much they still do, but early on those were all voice actors like that. They were manipulated and like put effects put on their voices a little bit. But it's like, yeah, Pokemon were were voice actors making the noises. Like that's not surprising. It's the fact there's like no filter, no treatment on it. It's just a dude. It's just a guy. Digimon's crazy in that there is no way to discern which Digimon are feral and which ones aren't.

34:03 So they they run in as translators as a as a problem. It's like hey any one of these little dudes can just like break out in Shakespeareian I am pictameter. We just have to guys. It's like all right your parrot mod um parrotmon is checks notes checks notes not sentient. How's your roar? Love that. Oh god. Um, but yeah, that's right within the first 15 seconds is how I knew I was in for a time. Yeah, it's also '90s voice acting. So, yeah, the quality is I there's no way of knowing. Uh, and I I will say this, the consistent thing I think across all

34:49 three parts that I did enjoy is that because it's 90s and also like dubbed in this scope of like, hey, we there's no rule book for this. We're just trying to make it like kind of work, but also be entertaining for kids and also, you know, it's it's ridiculous and over the top anyways. And so it's much more age appropriate. Yeah. But there's so much of it that feels like the the goddamn ghost series of of ghost stories. Ghost stories. Yes. Where it's that like these I don't even know if these translated lines were like written in a script so much as y'all are just doing this off the cuff. Yeah. So part of part of why this is considered original piece as

35:34 opposed to the mashup of three movies um is because of how much they changed the script. So the writers had just these again these three short films to work with to mash into an hour and about an hour and a half uh worth of movie. Um so what they did was they edited it together to make a coherent enough story. Yeah. wrote punchlines and then then justified the punchlines as they were going. And so it and it shows, right? There's there's obvious jokes that like are tangental to what the original script probably had. There's a lot of spaces, especially in part

36:20 one, where um the kids in Digimon are creepily articulate. Yeah. like they they have very pronounced vocabularies and sarcasm. Um there's very obvious parts. Part one is uh eight years before the start of the original series. Um the thing about Digimon is that Tai, our first main character, at the beginning of the series is 12 and his little sister Ki is 10. Mhm. So, you have this two-year-old who's using very high coherent sentences. Um, part of Kari's kind of tweak is that she in the show is that she's sickly and she's not exactly

37:05 verbal, though she grows out of that. So, that's why she has the whistle when she's nonverbal. Um, the writers decided that's hard. And yeah, she's a toddler. She's speaking in full sentences, though. We're going in. It's like Rugrats and and other like children's show rules. They're allowed to talk to like the kids are allowed to talk to each other, just not the adults. Yeah. If the adults are even around. Yeah. Which Exactly. Mom just like I'm going to the health food store. Bye. And again, the joke the jokes are the jokes are nonstop, man. It's it's the kind of jokes I like. There's a lot of word play jokes. We open with the first short film, which is a prequel to the series. Tai and Kari, um, who are two of our

37:52 main characters from the first season, find a Digimon that's not the same one that Tai has, cuz Tai also has, uh, the Digimon's called Aguman when he's like the orange dinosaur. And then Greymon when he's a kaiju. Um, Tai also has an Aguman and a Greymon, though the scale is different. Yeah, Digimon makes as much sense as we need it to. And that's why I was like, I I don't know if this is meant to be the same one, but they're calling it the same. So, I don't know. Yeah, it's the same species, but it's a different different one. Got it. And the the premise is obviously a lot of it was cut and they kept the bare bones of it to keep the story going. The premise is the kids who first interacted with this dig this Digimon, Ty and Kari being the main ones, eventually go on to become

38:38 our protagonist and then all get their own Digimon. They go to the digital world, go on adventure, fight Digimon Satan like twice. It's Digimon's [ __ ] wild. It's great. Then we fast forward in the movie four years later to after the first season. So, in between the first season and the second season where we get probably the most influential thing Digimon has ever done in the movie, it's called Four Years Later. That's the act. It's act two. Um, the short film is called Digimon, Our War Game. I love Enders Game. It's [ __ ] sick. The premise is a Digi Egg shows up on the internet where it's not supposed to be and it gets a virus. That virus then goes crazy and starts eating up all the internet. Um, and it's our kids' uh

39:25 duty to grab their Digimon again and stop them. It's [ __ ] cool. There's a lot that happens in this. Yeah. Oh my god. Would you say how how would you how did you feel about this part when in comparison to the other two? It felt like I mean and again I was kind of expecting not knowing the background of like the origin of how this even came to be. I was sort of like, "Oh, so what's happened here in our prequel, we're going to get like, you know, plotline tied over into the second part." No, no, but that's kept I kept expecting that of like, oh, is there going to be some like relevance to that here? No. You know, again, thinking of a normal movie structure, not knowing, oh,

40:11 we had to glue these things together with duct tape in a dream. Yeah. But there's a lot of like I don't want to say complete whiplash, but it feels like within the span of a minute at a time suddenly the stakes raise like dramatically. Um and there's some good like roadblock to the characters of being able to do anything I guess along those way those way along the way for like those different outlets. But it is a level of like we we started this as like a oh cool a weird thing's happening on summer vacation and then suddenly imminent nuclear disaster. So and this is kind of what Digimon does

40:58 um all the time. But again when it's condensed like this you're like breaking your neck watching the tennis game. there's the undercurrent of this computer virus getting more and more powerful um and trying to not only eat the internet but uh eventually gets so powerful that it invades the US government and sends off two ICBMs. Yeah. One to Willis's house, a character who we'll visit later. Um and then the other two where our main characters are. It's ICBMs. They translated as nuclear bombs. I feel like that's in bad taste given that they live in Japan, but you know, who am I? Yeah, when we talk about the tonal whiplash, like we said, they wrote punchlines for jokes and then filled in the script later. There's a lot of like jokes going back and forth.

41:44 Um, the one Kaylee and I mentioned, for example, is Tai and one of our other characters, Izzy, are like Rush. Their internet has gone down because the evil Digimon at this point, I think it's already Infuron at this point. It evolves and it changes its name. I'm not gonna say man over and over again. The the names aren't important. Infowars man. Damn. Um Alex Jones man is no [ __ ] up. He has um shut their internet connection is shut down. Izzy has come back with a way to join up sat a satellite connection and he's explaining it and you know they're rushing. He's

42:30 like, "Well, the it's hard to explain, but you don't do you know what a semiconductor is?" And he's like, "Um, a train driver who works part-time." And it's like, "What are we doing here?" Well, like we open part two with just like kid like middle school like like young adolescent like problems. Like Ty and Sora have had a fight and he's like writing this how do I apologize to my friend like letter which I did think was kind of like stupid. Like another good joke that I liked was the like cuz again this was that like this is so stupid and extra. I feel like y'all were joking about this in the writer room that you just threw it into the script of the like I'm sorry about what happened. I haven't felt this bad since I I accidentally threw up in your hat and didn't tell you before you put it on.

43:19 Um that like that line I was like what what dude you idiot and like we get that's kind of Tai's personality is the like obnoxious goofball but there though there's so many of these little like slice of life things and Akari's going to a birthday party and and he's just like you know what do what do I do and seeing things are going on Izzy's like found this Digimon and then the ball gets rolling but then yeah suddenly It is it is this level of like, oh, oh, okay. So, now we're now we're getting into the the story is happening and yet we keep just like having these like rando lines thrown in for good measure as as it's like, oh, suddenly it's eaten

44:05 all the data in grocery stores and people can't buy food because it's not the right price. Oh no, it's hacked the phone company. Phone lines are down all over the globe. Oh my god. When it calls everybody at the same time and they're showing these scenes of people on the train, hello. People in the park, hello. A guy pops out of the bush. It's like, what are you doing? It's so dumb. It's so good. So again, to um give more premise cuz it's hard to like keep up with these this stuff, especially if you don't know the source material. The world is in danger, but our protagonist, it's during summer vacation, so our protagonists are like all spread out. Yeah. Matt or Tai

44:51 and Izzy, Izzy is one of our protagonist, computer wiz, are together. They're managed to get together, but two of our others uh characters, Matt and TK, uh who are brothers, they're off at their grandma's house in the boonies, and the only computer they can find is at the local uh barber shop. Mimi, who's the rich girl, is um on vacation with her family in Hawaii. Sora is mad at Tai. Ki's at a birthday party that she just can't leave for some reason. She's already volunteered to get sawed in half when the magician comes. It's like so stupid. It's like just tell her a nuke is coming, right? She'll come back. That was the like I get the joke of the phone tag that eventually we get as as

45:37 they go we figured out a solution to the phone problems. Just dial this code, leave a message. Uh or like you can leave a message, press two to receive message. I'm like how does how does it know? How would it know? And we get a good bit like a good joke, I guess, in that like between Matt and Ty are finally like responding to each other. We're just going back and forth, back and forth. I'm like, "Oh my god, just say that like things are happening, Ty. Use your explain the situation. Stop saying, "Hey, call me back. Hey, this is an emergency. Just tell people what's happening." Every message ended with, "Call me back. Call me back." And it's important that Matt is the one

46:23 who shows up because Tai's our protagonist. Matt's kind of like our I believe the trope's called our Lancer or Vegeta or Sasuke, our number two guy. Anti-hero. Yeah. Not so much anti-hero, but definitely the I'm the cool guy. I'm not the main character, but I'm just behind him. Right. Shadow the hedgehog. Yeah. Or Shadow to Tai Son. But again, that implies that they get ad they get adversarial for the sake of plot, but they're never like fighting. No, they're not like enemies against each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's important that Matt shows up because Tai and Matt have the strongest Digimon. So if [ __ ] goes down, we have to have at least those two. Oh [ __ ] Um which it does. So I keep mentioning how influential this

47:08 part is specifically. The animation quality on this one is [ __ ] insane. Yeah. So much so that the director of uh this the original version of this film, Mamaro Hosora, um went on to make a movie called uh Summer Wars, which is basically just this movie again, but with original characters. Very, very good movie, by the way. People should go watch that from 2009. He was also the original director for Hold on. How's Moving Castle? Oh [ __ ] Yeah, because of this one. Um, but he got in an argument with the production company and Miyazaki ended up having to how Miyazaki ended up

47:55 having to do it himself. No, dude. This shit's tight. It's the most It's the most like typical anime where the enemy keeps powering up, powering up, powering up. Our two main guys get get destroyed. But by the wishes of all the kids in the uni in the on the world, power them up into [ __ ] Omnimon, a dude with two heads for hands. One of those heads has a sword in it and the other has a cannon and he gets a [ __ ] cape and he Omnimon's [ __ ] dope, bro. He's so cool. It's It's a little uh Voltron looking, but I It's very Voltron. It's It's [ __ ] dope, though. It's a It's one of the most iconic things to ever come out of Digimon. Oh, sure. Hilarious enough. How did you like the kind of uh horror that Digimon like inches up close

48:44 to all the time? Well, like I guess the like suspense horror I think was what struck me the mostly just cuz like when by the time we get to like fighting that it's like okay, it's anime fights, you know, sick punches and action sequences. But like I think the horror in this is definitely that like oh you know here's a creature that's like causing problems you know for for inventory and food systems and banks and then phone lines and now communication globally has been shut down and like even the little details like we're constantly he's antagonizing uh like Tai and the main characters by sending them emails. I this is this is also where I'm just hitting that point of like oh oh oh 1999 like I mean the internet is still a baby and so it's

49:29 that like to be so plugged in already when you know it's hindsight is 2020 but there's so little there's so little to be plugged into and yet like emails and and the way that that early proto internet was working was like such a like I don't know it It's such a different time, but like email and instant messaging being such a particularly specific thing. So, we're getting those messages from this creature that's like a oh, okay, yeah, we know some Digimon are like sentient to have conversation, but like this one's a little creepy and sinister and it's like leaving [ __ ] saw like riddles for us in it in its cryptic messages. But you can notice the email addresses too clue you in like when he's

50:16 like, "Oh, like guess where I and you see the handle is from the like like cell.net something something you're like oh it's the phone company the the like whatever it sends when it's traveling to the states and it's like like dos like NY.gov.gov email. Oh no. Because then they're like, "Oh, it's traveling to America and it's eating through all the the information at the Kenned Kennedy airport terminal." Like, uhoh [ __ ] that's important. No. So, like it's it's that kind of escalation that's just like, oh, there's no you couldn't have stopped it. It's just suddenly like just nope, that's there now. It's it's an even bigger problem.

51:02 the hungry caterpillar keeps eating and now he's going to blow you up in and they always undercut they always undercut it with a joke just so it doesn't get too scary cuz obviously this the target demographic for this stuff is 6 to 12 right sure but Caraman who it starts off with Caraman then Infirmmont the Diaboron um they're all very scary looking like they're all big eyes creepy smiles lanky puppety looking It's a little unsettling. Um, Infirmont is one to one based on the idea of the Y2K bug, right? This thing that once all the clocks, if for or for folks who don't remember, the idea was once all the clocks swapped to the year 2000s, they wouldn't have to

51:48 take it and everything would shut down. Um, thus causing planes to crash and bombs to go off. It was it was a nonsense argument then, but people used to be really into predicting when the world was going to end. I'm glad we never stopped much anymore. And every year it feels like we're just a little closer and yet come. Dude, it it's legit scary when the phone calls coming up come up. Ty's like, "Hello." And he's like, "Hello, did you program me?" I was like, "Uhoh." No, thank you. Don't like that. Um and then yeah, just Diaboran invading the US government, sending two ICBMs. Yeah. Uh after one after Willis, um a

52:34 character who we'll start speaking about, and then two after our protagonist. It's the I forget what the internet serpent is. It's like the idea that the um a program becomes sensient and it's malicious, especially against the people who are trying to stop it. It is that brought to life and it's kind of like uhoh. This is this is a little horrifying. Digimon's always been real, like I said earlier, Digimon's always had a sense of danger to it that series like Pokemon doesn't. Mhm. So, they always border on the horrific. Uh which I like. But then we get volt then we assemble Voltron on the hopes and dreams of little kids and kick his ass with one second left. Brother, it's cinema. It's

53:22 so cool. The way it does resolve becomes the like, oh, yay, cool anime, we saved the day, you know, one second on the clock, we did it. But like everything kind of building up to that is this level of like huh it's insane that like knowing the way the internet works. It's more complicated than it's laid out here. But like honestly it's almost as simple as described here. Like if you can you can network your way hotspot like your way through servers around the globe through firewall through other security protocol. It's it it could just be that

54:08 easy to [ __ ] [ __ ] up. Like that's kind of the like oh like it's it's simplified but like not greatly. Yes. Uh, and then we get to part three, present day. Oh, before before we leave part two though, I want to give a a favorable shout out to my other like my top three of these like humor moments of like Yeah, I I can't tell. Is this improv or was this scripted? Um, in no particular order other than just like I'm looking at the script for reference because again, these just fly through and I forget what I've heard like after. Shout outs to the Digimon fan community who put out transcripts of all of these

54:53 movies years ago, I assume. Good job, guys. Um, in no particular order is the after the phone lines are cut and and Tai is trying to call people still the operator line where it sounds so robotic. It's like, all circuits are busy. All circuits are still busy. Didn't you hear me? Cuz that's what I went. Wait, isn't this just a pre-recorded message? It's busy. Like, great joke. 10 out of 10. So good. Um, all circus are busy. Try again later. The circus are busy. Try again later. The all circus are still busy. Did you miss me? It's busy. Hangs up on time. It's so good. Um, but yeah, like

55:40 that the semiconductor joke. Mhm. Uh, brilliant. Stupid. Love that. No notes. The payoff of finding out what the whole riff between Tai and Sora was being about a hair pin and a hat. And it's this level of like, and here's the like dumb adolescent [ __ ] from the very beginning of this at a time of crisis when the world is about to explode kind of thing. Um, slash also Izzy uh suffering the consequences of Tai's mom's health food craze. Yeah. Yeah. Like every item she says, everything she says is a like, oh my

56:25 god. Like and that's it's such like 2000s humor too of like what are the snacks that mom makes? Uh bad. Yeah. Gross. Slash. Also honestly runner up is her joke of like did you hear all the phone lines or dad? Well, now my sister can't call me three times a day. Like, girl, you can just not answer. It's so dumb. But this is such a just great little throwaway bit about this character. It's like, I didn't like care. I don't want anything bad to happen to you, but I didn't like care care about you, and now I just know a little something more about her now, I guess. Great. Bad's mom can't cook. So

57:11 part three uh present day is kind of what ties the everything together or is what the writers used. Again these are three individual short films that they mashed together. The reason they made uh part three kind of the through line is because they expected people to come watch this movie to be already familiar with the series. Yeah. Um and part three centers around a character who doesn't exist in the series. He only exists in the movies. Uh i.e. E Willis from the from the jump they do with uh Ki doing the voice over. They're like, "By the way, there's this guy named Willis. He's always existed. Don't worry about him." You know, they they did a good job of I think for a kids movie of saying, "Yeah, this guy is here. We don't see him, but he's always in the margins in um part

57:58 two. He's sending emails to Izzy." Yeah. Um he's um pecked as this whiz kid um who's really good with computers already taking classes at Colorado State even though he's like nine. Um even though we get to present day and he never touches a computer nor mentions them. Yep. That's because we had to add that in. So again, this is a movie for kids and everything includes K characters. Your standard uh watcher of this movie would know except for Willis at the end. So, what the writers wanted to do was introduce this character early and try to make them important in a way. Uh, so when they show up and they're this center point of the last third of the movie, it's not like, well, who the [ __ ] is this guy? Who is this guy? Yeah.

58:44 Yeah. Yeah. So, Willis is not a computer wiz. He's not even sending emails to Izzy during part two. We We added that into the American dub just so he doesn't go anywhere. I don't have a lot to say about present day because I think it's the worst part. Yeah, it's kind of it's it's the end, right? We're we're exhausted at this point, right? Um from this, we've gone from focusing on season one of Digimon to season two. Um I imagine that was definitely a a kind of hay ride for you from following the basically the same characters and like and now here's Davis and Jolie. It's like who are these clowns, right? Yeah. would definitely that like okay I can tell I'm missing something contextually of who they are cuz like otherwise why

59:32 would they be here and also getting to the third part and going okay so we just solved a nuclear crisis in the last one so I'm starting to suspect that this is three separate plots in a trench coat uh by the last one I'm suspecting this I'm not going to rack my brain going who are they? Um when clear yeah like clearly was like okay I'm assuming this is something like that where this is this is a different season of characters. K is still here kind of. Yep. But yeah we're we're meeting a new batch dealing with I guess kind of the same problem but not really. Yeah. So the premise of this one is um the kids are now in US.

1:00:20 Um, Willis has two Digimon, which is um, not usual. This is unusual, right? Usually you only get one. He has two. And one of them has gotten a virus um, and is rampaging it and telling him to go back to the beginning and being all creepy and haunting him and whatnot. Again, Digimon kind of coasting the lines of horror, but never crossing so much that it would freak kids out. and our season 2 heroes um get called over and end up end up meeting Willis and uh traveling with them for a little bit. It's hard cuz with season two uh backstory season two is a few years after um season one of Digimon in canon.

1:01:07 So, our first set of characters, we had our first set of characters who were all around middle school age. Um, and then we always had Ki Matt or Kari, Tai's little sister, and TK, Matt's little brother. They were in elementary school. In season two, all of the standard Digimon kids are all in high school, but we keep the eyes on like the 12y olds. Yeah. So, TK and Ki still hang out. They look different. They look older. And that's where we um insert Davis, Jolie, and I can't remember the third kid's name, the little dude with the bull cut with Armadillo. They get introduced as new um digit destined for what the main characters are. So, we have the two the two veterans and then the new kids. And

1:01:54 the new kids kind of get always get most of the uh spotlight because they're the new kids. Yeah. But TK and Kari are always there in the wings being like, "We we we know what's going on. relax, drags a cigarette. Yeah, I've seen this all before. Yeah. And and that's and that's really accent in this one, right? Where TK and Ki started, they do they initiate the call to action cuz TK and Ki are in New York visiting with Mimi, uh, one of our characters, one of our older one of the older kids, one of our main characters from season one. They're like on vacation. They're on vacation. Derailed. Yeah. Literally. Haha. And then Yeah. They're on a train and they get hijacked uh by something that may or

1:02:39 may not have been edited out for time, right? We do just kind of like, oh, all right. Um, moving on. Um, they get derailed and um come back in the end to initiate the end. That's kind of what TK and Cari do in the season two. But it's like after all this time we've been like Willis, Willis, Willis. And now we spend time with Willis. We show his Digimon and his whole thing is he's trying to escape his infected Digimon Cookman um with his uh little buddy Terriermon and they're fighting. It's It's [ __ ] boring. There I said it. There's not a lot to say about this third part, man. There's an emotional reunion at the end. Yeah, very ends very sweet. There's a nice let's ride off into the sunset,

1:03:25 close this out. But like it really is a like we put all these characters together, we fight the thing, but other than the just sort of like Yeah. Drop for time. Do we like get to see on screen resolution of uh Ki and TK getting kidnapped? Yeah. We we just sort of have a fight, close it out once the the three find Willis and and they hitchhike their way to Colorado. Yeah. And and this is kind of where me as a kid, I remember distinctly sitting in the movie theater like kind of like how you had the aha moment. This is three different parts or there's three different things stitched together like in part two. I had it in this part because again there's a lot of

1:04:12 translation stuff. There's a lot of censorship in Digimon. It's a Sabon piece. It's that four kids era where it's like we have to Americanize and make it safe for kids. They do the whole get all the way to the middle of nowhere um Colorado and then they call a pizza truck. Yes. I love the Hey, can we hitch a ride with you? It's like no, these kids are hitchhiking. Like they're the kid the one kid um I can't remember his [ __ ] name. Armadillam's guy. Um Cody, that's his name. Jesus. Um Cody is like drawing on something and they never address it. He's drawing a sign so they could get picked up on the side of the road. But that was a thing. Um if you're old

1:04:59 enough to remember from cartoons in the back of the back in the day, they did not want kids emulating that. Nope. So stuff that was like hitchhiking and whatnot, they would try to censor and be like, "No, they're not hitchhiking. They called this guy and they trust these people." Also, um, what the girl, what's her name? Being like, "Oh, I have an uncle that that has taxi cab. He's got these airline miles, so that's why we had to take this away." No, no more uncles. No more. This so stupid. Um, for me as a kid, um, where I really put it together, I'm like, "Wait, no, this isn't right." Is Willis goes through his, um, backstory. He's like, "Yeah, I was with Pokemon and Terrier. They were my only friends." And then Pokemon got picked up

1:05:45 by the virus. And you know, we've been on the run from him ever since. And Davis starts crying. He's like, "That's the story saddest story I've ever heard." Then Willis is like, "Hey man, calm down." Like, "This happened to me, not you." And Davis immediately, "Okay, never mind." He's like, "That was fast." Like they acknowledge it. But even as a nine-year-old, I was like, "Wait, no. Something's not right here. Story beats don't quite line up, do they? No. But it's fun, man. Especially given the rest of the movie. What' you think about We We kind of skirted on this. What' you think about the soundtrack? I was just about to say I I don't want to know what the

1:06:30 original Japanese song choices were. I don't. The surprise first song you hear outside of the Digimon theme song being Funk Soul Brother. Yeah. Just like Fatboy Slim out of nowhere in in the middle of nowhere in this like we have a Digimon and it's it's like quickly growing and evolving and we have no idea what's going on in part one. But right about now soul brother is playing in the background. I'm like I ascended. I'm gone. Um, and then, oh no, what it we had a similar, what was it in part two? I'm blanking on the song now again. It just mo moved so quick. Um, all my best friends are metal heads. They just break

1:07:15 out a sca song for no reason. Uh, and then the movie ends in All Close it out with Allstar. And honestly, I know there's got to be like video I know I know I've probably watched one of these video essays of like all the other ranking all the instances of Allstar being used sort of thing like because I'm like no it's not just Shrek. There were other things that used this song before Shrek did. It wasn't written for Shrek. It was written for uh Ben Stiller superhero spin-off movie I think. So yeah yeah cuz that was still when we were making uh pop song attaching pop songs to movie. The Ben Siller movie went nowhere, but then they put it in Shrek and people were like, "Smashmouth." But yeah, closing it out with Smashmouth. I went, I don't want to know

1:08:01 what the originals for these ever were. This is fantastic. 10 out of 10. Pure 2000's essence soundtrack selection here. No notes. Yeah, dude. Um, that's one of this movie's claim to fame as as well on top of the like we've Americanized the OST and made it techno and the digi rap and all the hilariously bad original songs we wrote for the series. Um, there's also they they throw in some butt rock, they throw in some SCA, they throw in some college rock, and it's like this again this beautiful time capsule of what was what was pop music in 1999 to 2001. Uh, if people were just it it just like and it always hits you in the face.

1:08:47 You're never expecting it. No, you're just chilling in part three, right, watching the movie and then Kids in America shows starts playing. You're like, why? What? Who decid who paid for this? Right. Where did we get the money for this licensing? Hello. I don't remember what I watched. I truly don't. But I know that besides just a like, yeah, what a great grabag of music to throw in here that that exactly is that like consolidated. This is 1999 through 2001. My favorite thing about just the writing and translation of of this is is is like ghost stories. is these strange absurd but welltimed and welld delivered jokes

1:09:32 and that that become justifications of these like we have to censor it this way because it's for kids we have to make it work this way because we're pressed for time whatever it is I love that kind of like early a dubbing style where it's a like it this does nothing other than it's a ridiculous justification to just throw in here because the flaps are moving or we're just holding on this shot that like why not? What What does it do? Nothing. And that's what makes it great. Just ending thoughts, bro. They made this movie on a budget of 5 mill. It brought in 16. They brought it brought in 16.6. Like they were they were deep in the black. And that is

1:10:19 2000's money. That's 2000's money, bro. God dang. This movie, it it's my favorite awful movie. Yeah, it's so stupid. It's so much fun. Uh it it's 88 minutes, bro. Just give it a watch. But you have nothing better to do. Have a couple friends around, get some drinks, be like, "Y'all want to watch Digimon?" Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Want to get Digimon and watch Digimon? Hell yeah. What Digimon? An altered state of reality. B, your choice. I'm feeling like lit. Man, brother cross fade man. Digiv evolve too.

1:11:07 Oh man. Don't abuse substances, kids. This is here's the PSA at the end of this. Don't hitchhike and don't abuse substances. Don't hitchhike. Don't abuse substances. shouldn't be watch Digibod. That's been this episode of the Liberal Artist Podcast. Thank you for joining us, man. Follow us on our socials. Give us five stars. Apple Music, uh YouTube. You can't give stars on YouTube. Whatever the [ __ ] No. And join us next time when we design our Digimon personas. Deviant Art prepared me for this. Peace. The Liberal Artists podcast premieres

1:11:53 every other Thursday on your favorite podcasting platform. The show is hosted by Bodapula, Kaye Horowitz, and Andy Gibson. You can find the show at Liberal Artists Pod on Instagram and Twitter. Thanks to Whitehot for performing the theme song Reflect, which can be found on freebeats.io. Now I'm off to go exploring and maybe maybe just maybe I'll find a sheep that I can call my own. Good [Music] day. His name is [ __ ] Parrot Mod. Why

1:12:39 did they pick him as the bad guy? He's so whack. There are a lot of other things about this that I could say is a little whack, but I'm scared. I'm scared to peek at what the rest of that iceberg

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