Dub Talk Presents: Summer at the Movies (Season 4) - The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

0:00 greetings time travelers just so you're aware this video before you is not the full film of the girl who left your time this is a podcast review of the film and its english language dub if you wish to view the movie for yourself please support the official release on home video from funimation they got a snazzy blu-ray with lots of sweet bonus features and we highly recommend having a high resolution version to enjoy thank you very much hmm i feel like there's something else i was supposed to do ahead of time oh shoot i forgot to record the full disclaimer for this episode and it starts in one minute wait wait i've got all the time in the world i just have to leap back in time to a few days ago all right here we go okay okay too far oh well warning

0:47 the dub talk podcast may contain language and subject matter that may not be suitable for younger audiences listener discretion is back advised to the present back to the present how did we go further back in time this isn't so bad also there will definitely be spoilers for the girl who led through time and any other media being discussed be forewarned if something that you haven't finished yet is brought up why is there a guy in a metal suit on a horse charging at me finally opinions expressed are those of individual participants and no necessarily reflect dub talk podcast as a whole

1:33 me thinks this getting ridiculous how far back can time leave take person how sweet i've always wanted to see the big bang which reminds me remember to appreciate the life you have and never take the little pleasures like friends and special events for granted while you can because as this movie taught us time waits for no one speaking of which i think i figured out how to leap back to the present enjoy the episode hello fellow time travelers thank you for joining us here for the dup talk podcast the premiere podcast where a bunch of individuals get together to talk about the latest and greatest in english dubs for anime and alternative media in general

2:18 and not only to talk about the latest but sometimes even some classic materials that you have probably seen before and have been dying for us to get to well now's your chance because once again we are continuing summer at the movies popcorn fireworks cisco and ebert in the balcony it is movie time since when have there been fireworks at movie theater that's a bit dangerous you know i'm talking about like uh like the big movie premieres at like the the chinese theater in in hollywood there's always you know there's always like fair big explosions okay fair but to say why are we setting off fireworks in a movie theater that is dangerous and that is against fire code so hard oh oh lilac

3:06 like have you seen the uh the animated movie cats don't dance oh it's been years but yes okay you remember the final epic musical number where they're like setting off all of the the fireworks and explosions and lights and the statue of liberty at the very end of it again it's been a long ass time i will show that remember i'll show that to you later but point is that if you do it in a marked dindle animated movie we can clearly do it in real life and look here anime anime is not true to real life that's a horrible idea and that is so many lawsuits waiting to happen if you do that are you telling me that people can't actually travel through time and re and go back to the beginning of

3:52 their karaoke session all day i wish that was a thing but sadly no we can't go back in time and have a good dinner again i wish that was a thing but sadly no i can't go back in time and prevent the boy who has a crush on me from telling me that he has a crush on me i don't wish that was a thing i am sorry but no very disillusioned now uh but what i'm not disappointed about is talking about this movie so like we said we're at summer of the movies episode five this season yes we've gone through the highlights of uh high school idols uh gentlemen thieves hal and whatever the heck dragon quest is we still haven't figured that out

4:38 um whatever drag the thing that broke andrew that's all we need to do that is that is that should be on the box it broke the only thing there's the only two things we need to know about dragon quest it broke andrew and steve [ __ ] blum earned his goddamn paycheck all right not that [ __ ] that's great all that matters so uh all that matters every summer at the movies since we started this we have always done at least one mama soda film and we are continuing that tradition because he's he's put out a steady amount of work before but rather than looking at the newer films he's done like uh wolf children or the boy and the beast we're going back in time to cover what is essentially his premier original work

5:23 yes um even though he did uh work on the digimon franchise and the one-piece franchise mama hasoda kick-started his solo directing career with one special madhouse movie in 2006. yes people you have all been clamoring for it and we finally got into it we're covering the girl who leapt through time heck yeah sweet r and of course to help me out i've brought along my time traveling assistant because every time lord needs an assistant to you know die for them i mean to accompany them on their trip say hello to lilac you mean companion i know nothing about doctor who but i know that's a thing companion not assistant companion but

6:09 they because you called yourself a time lord but they do end up dying usually for the time lord by the end of the season do they not does that mean i die at the end of the episode in fact if that's what's supposed to happen i'm gonna be very depressed we could do a subversion where you know the the meat shield that is the companion lives and the the time lord himself dies so i guess we'll find out at the end of this episode i guess so side note live from north carolina yes thank you for coming to us from your uh your special recording studio uh away from home i'm visiting my mom right now uh it's been a crazy past few weeks but i'm visiting my mom in north carolina so because everything that was happening we didn't get the recording yet and i'm

6:55 just like oh mom can i record this episode while i'm with you and she's like yeah that's fine oh my god thanks mom and it's a good thing we did too because this is going to be a really unique movie i mean like not just the fact that it's a sort of a uh origin of species for mom or sodas directing work but also and i could be wrong here but i think this is one of the only times we've covered a canadian dub is that correct as far as i know of yes yes i don't know if it's the very first time i don't know that yeah but in a rare and a rare twist yeah so this is uh so essentially although mama hasoda did have a big reputation and people were fighting to license his movies in the west

7:40 afterwards for this movie uh he was not a big name yet and so none of the big companies were really clamoring to get uh high-end voice actors with big budgets uh to uh to uh distribute his work bondi though did take a chance on this one back when uh they existed rest in peace they're into rip rip fonda entertainment they had a good run uh but yes the girl who left through time came out in japan in 2006 and it didn't it was made by mad house it was directed by mad house and um if i remember correctly this was uh not really super well promoted it wasn't expected to be like a giant hit it was meant to be like a a nice fluffy feel-good uh summer movie but word of mouth i'm i'm

8:27 not surprised by that considering i don't remember when it came to over to the west here bundy really like promoting it all that much they didn't really um yeah it was because they didn't have a lot like a big name attached to it even though it is based on a very popular novel the girl who left their time is a novel uh written by yasutaka tsutsui back in 1965 not really one of those novels that like uh people in the west know super well so it's not like they could bank on adapted from the popular the best-selling novel or anything like that but uh it got a lot of really good word of mouth in japan and therefore it made more money than they were expecting it to and i think that buzz is why bandai decided to take a chance on it because there

9:13 are some there are japanese movies being made all the time original japanese movies and not all of them get snapped up um but we're really glad this one did because just two years after it premiered in japan we got an english dub released on home video and that is what we are going to be talking about today and then bandai basically died in 2014 and then like two years later it was rescued yes it was so thanks funimation thank you funimation for uh having the common sense to keep this movie in print because it definitely needs to be watched and just to cut straight to the you know the we save this for the end usually but you can watch this movie and i think like and i will agree you should definitely check it out it's streaming on funimation's website so if you've got a subscription

9:58 is it really a little bit of time to go check it out yes i have because.moe pulled up right now and if you type in the girl who let through time you will find funimation's got it up on their side i don't believe you i'm gonna look at funimation like directly because i don't [ __ ] believe you they normally don't stream their movies that's why i find it hard to believe they usually don't and okay while you're looking that up i'm gonna be usually done i'm gonna explain the plot really quickly okay so okay uh there's this high school girl named makoto who's just kind of going through a rough patch in her life where nothing seems to be going well she's everything's going wrong and she just kind of wishes that uh you know she could do a little bit better in class and in relationships and everything uh she has two best friends though um

10:44 who luckily help her relieve some of that stress one day though uh due to a freak science accident involving slipping and falling on uh it's kind of like a walnut shaped device which we find out more about near the end she develops a power to leap through time like she gets to herself gets to go and and she has to do this by actually jumping she has to like get off of high places or run really quickly and she has to build up a head of steam it's kind of like uh in uh back to the future where they have to get up to a certain speed to go back in time when she does that she can leap back in time and redo events however she wants and she uses hence the girl who left through town it is very well visually represented and a

11:31 very fitting title for this for the movie and so uh for the first half of the movie it's just shenanigans of uh not just her leaping through time but also through that we get to see uh relationships uh live and die we get to see angsty teenagers we get to see relationships with bratty sisters and uh near the end of the movie there's a bit of a twist a bit of a surprise that we will spoil near the end because it relates to one key character and essentially dun dun dun dun and that is what then groundhog's day ish mcker fluffle and i love it i absolutely love it okay so um before uh briefly just jumping into our histories for this i saw this movie i believe i bought a

12:18 physical copy of it when it was on sale on write stuff back in 2012 i want to say it was uh one of a couple of films that i bought and just to check out i think five centimeters per second was another one so i i've seen it for a while um it is not my favorite soda movie uh people have seen prior episodes will know wolf children is my favorite and but that being said um i i really do like this movie and i was really glad to be given the opportunity to talk about why that is and why i do think that the dub still holds up even over 10 years after it came out by contrast you had ah we got a new we're gonna have a fun time we got we got a newbie here i have never seen this film before ever and

13:05 i've been meaning you meeting two for ages and this is my excuse to finally dive in and do it um i do own it on dvd and blu-ray um but similar to no it's not my favorite hisoda film i think that honor might actually go to wolf children for me as well however i do question if it still holds up to an extent okay well i'm to an extent because there are a couple it's it's one of those things where it's like if i saw this before all the other hasoda films i might have a different opinion granted we will get more into this later but um i feel like since i'm watching it later on after seeing all these other hisoda films i think that kind of you saw them sully's my my

13:51 opinion on the dub of this one but we'll get into that that's an interesting point because i i did see them in release order i believe i yeah i saw this before summer wars and then wolf children then boy and the beast and mri so interesting yeah my my first one was wolf sorry um not wolves wolf's rain episode wolf spring episode is available on this channel right now heck yeah that went up this past week at the time recording list uh no uh children anything i think it was for me wolf children boy and the beast and then i backtracked to summer wars i think and then then it was girl left the time i the only one now i haven't seen is me and i um but yeah like i think

14:36 i didn't if i had watched girl lift their time earlier before all the other ones i might have a different opinion but anyways okay well let's uh let's talk about why that may be because like we said this was a canadian dub uh bandai did not decide to use any of their la talent for this they just said out they distributed the english version of it and katakawa the japanese uh production company is listed as a producer of the dub so they probably had some input to like make sure that things sounded right and that they approved the dub but the actual voice acting direction writing all of that was done by the fine folks at ocean studio in canada and this is the ocean group boys and girls here's a new studio we

15:23 haven't talked about i don't think ever no we have not but ocean group has done a lot of uh both japanese and western animation uh voice acting so uh in talking about the credits here we are going to talk about a lot of voice actors who have done both and we're going to talk about both their anime and cartoon credits won't that be fun oh that'll be that'll be an interesting time it will so let's die uh i i all i remember is you said is you sending me a message the other day about a specific credit and the amount of voice actors who were in that specific thing i'm not gonna say one because i feel like we're gonna be talking about it throughout the show i'm assuming yes we will and it's not okay it will either make some people very happy or very angry

16:09 anyway anyway so in talking about who directed and wrote this bad boy the girl who got through times english dub was directed by carl williams and it was script written by kathleen westlake now names that your average va chaser probably doesn't recognize but you have probably heard their work before uh the first season of shakugan no shana was done in canada and released by uh jenny on and carl was the adr director on that he also did the adr direction on stuff like card fight vanguard the gin row movie which was another bandai release but uh most prominently and i'm just covering this because a lot of people saw this a lot of the inuashi dub was directed by carl a lot of that dub ah i forgotten

16:57 yeshua was also canada it was okay that makes sense yeah so if you're from that camp of toonami's heyday or i'm sorry adult swim's heyday when they showed anime you probably saw what they say joshua wasn't even too nominated no no you're right it's i you know what i mean because they call it toonami now even though it used to be called adult swim you know what i'm talking about no yeah i understand that i understand what you're talking about yeah all that and miss kathleen yeah on that same note kathleen also did quite a bit of writing for inuasha um and a couple other of the uh canadian things she's done work for she uh wrote the script for the movie sword of the stranger and oh okay a good chunk of both mobile suit gundam and wing were written by her again those are both uh bondi releases but done in canada so that those two these two

17:45 have done a lot both before and since the girl who left time so lilac go ahead and tell me your initial opinions of the overall writing and direction i'll start with the writing first because i actually really enjoyed the writing on the film um i think kathleen did a fantastic job having adapted and portraying um the sci-fi elements the fantas a little bit of fantastical elements and the teen angst both of these kids so much teen angst and i think it all blended together really well i i didn't really see many issues in terms of the writing and the in the adaptation on

18:31 that end the directing is interesting and this goes back to my comment of if i saw a girl who left their time before all the other soda films my opinion will probably be different um interesting is never usually a compliment i found out depends you could also be andrew and whenever he says interesting i have to ask him are you saying it's a good thing or a bad thing so in this case what do you mean um there were some moments in the direction with some of the characters that seemed at times a little bit stilted there were some performances and we'll get to one of those groups in

19:17 a little bit where voices of a couple of characters kind of blended together that you didn't know okay who was who um and i think some of the i think a good amount of it can be still that sometimes mostly with the secondary characters um though there are some occasions with some of the major characters that have this too and one of the weirdest moments i had and i even wrote this down as a note so you know towards the end of the film where makato is looking for chiaki right yes and she's just running and running and running and running and running the she does a lot of heavy breathing

20:02 yeah and i don't know why but it seemed very weird to me i mean she's she's like i was like what the [ __ ] is this like i was very very i i kind of got thrown off and i think i got pulled out of the moment from that where especially given what was going on in context and why she's trying to find him in the first place and like something like that i think was a direction issue um it definitely pulled me from it um and like i had to go back and try suspend my disbelief on some of this because to be fair some parts of the movie if you don't know anything about

20:48 the original novel which i found out i didn't even know about the original novel and no explained something to me um before we started recording if you didn't know anything about the original novel you're going to be very confused at points now to be fair okay and uh time travel stories both movies and books tend to confuse a lot of people on their first watch i mean not even right anything that involves non-linear storytelling like baccano confused a lot of people on his first watch but they still really liked it um no yeah and i i do i do think that they were definitely trying to tap into the angst of the high school experience they were trying to make it so oh no yeah absolutely they were i mean there's there's a credibility to saying that something took you out of it because of the way that they were

21:34 directed um but see i count bad direction as something where it was a failure to accomplish what they set out to do and this is a movie that is not glamour it does not glamorize the high school experience um there's no no no not at all yeah there's some movies like a lot of kyoani productions or um uh what's a really good one that uh glamorizes uh school settings uh like a lot of moe stuff seems to uh um oh it's something i just watched um maybe moe and maybe to an extent maybe like some idol shows that are set in high school to an extent but um no yeah i see what you're saying yeah um i was just watching um the second season of umaruchan and a

22:20 whole a whole lot of that second season is about not just the glamorization of having friends in high school in the high school experience but also the uh kind of the glamorization of preserving the past of like the nostalgic uh this movie uh feels a bit like uh it will stand as a period marker for the era because there are little details around the edge like the flip phones the uh the karaoke the the um just the overall speaking the topography all those little things there feel like uh we'll be able to look back at this and say this is what the uh the average not the idealized but the average japanese high school setting was like in that time period right um so i i disagree with you that the direction uh was interesting i'm playing big air

23:06 quotes around here because i feel i do think that it it doesn't have uh i guess uh it doesn't have a failure to accomplish what they set out to do uh taking it out of your experience though i can understand that right yeah because i mean i can understand they did what they set out to do but i think part part of it was some of the stealthy performances that they got as directions and i i think that kind of hindered my experience a bit but again what really hinders my experience is the fact that i watched girl who left through time for the first time after watching wolf children and boy and the beast and summer wars and these three fantastic english dubs to go with them right

23:52 that's true so backtracking to this one like i was hoping for something amazing and i was hoping for something amazing and then like i don't know i guess cause also too to be fair like english dubs and really really solid ones around like the because you said it came on 2008 so probably record around 2007. um 2007 like there were still some english dubs at that point in time that you can't really say are the greatest thing of all time um so it's still a learning process and a learning experience at the time i think in the industry as well um before it goes into like the modern

24:37 era which make which to me that's logic in my brain but um yeah i think the biggest thing that i think the biggest thing for me that really hinders this for me as a dub that can stand the test of time is the fact that i watched it so late i don't know that's interesting that it's interesting you say that because i've seen movies that uh you know are decades old and got into them just fine on their own merits um i just saw right the other day i saw a 50s russian animated movie about a bratty princess who wanted to flowers to grow in wintertime that's and i i did i didn't say ugh this this animation is so

25:23 uh you know so stilted or the voice acting the dress direction wrote selecting is so weird because i'm like this came out in the 50s i hold it to the level of expectations for russian animation from the 50s so right i understand that okay um i i no i completely understand that it's just in i'm trying to make sense of things in my brain as well uh please tell us about the brain let's unlock the inside of it and try to pick it apart we're gonna we're gonna let's dive in deeper and dissect this no it's like i really wanted i do like the film in general the film in general aside from like one or two plot points or characters that i didn't quite understand outside of that i

26:09 i did enjoy the film i mean i think it's solid it's just i think it's not the greatest step but it's also not absolutely horrible either it's in the it's a weird middle ground it's a weird middle ground yeah but in my my brain again like if i saw this when it first came out i would have fell in love with it i would have and probably for perfectly fine but now that i'm seeing it so late after seeing other soda films it's like uh and then cause sometimes your brain will automatically try to compare to the other stuff you know what i mean i think that has a lot to do with why i'm kind of in like kind of eh with what with my love of the film right honestly no uh it's interesting uh to talk about it uh from your perspective as well

26:55 because yeah the uh the story was ra the screenplay i'm sorry the screenplay for this movie wasn't written by uh hasoda it was actually written by his constant cohort satoko okudera who also did the screenplays for summer wars and the wolf children which is why all three of those movies are so estrogen-tastic there's so many uh prominent moments featuring female characters like young female characters specifically right yep so in watching this did any of this especially what the main character of makoto was going through did uh any of that did you feel a relation to like your own high school experience and those anxieties oh my god [Laughter] oh yeah i'm gonna take that as a yes it's some of

27:41 some of the [ __ ] that she goes through i'm like because the the whole thing with the pudding for instance [Laughter] i have some people may or may not know i have a little sister who would sometimes like to take my things and not tell me and of course i would be mad once i find out she took them and then the whole thing of like boys liking you and kind of trying to shift that mentality oh let's talk about my sister uh i was trying to tell you i like you i don't care let's talk about my sister instead i know exactly because it's like i can relate like to makoto it's like i don't want to lose this whole

28:28 friendship i don't want that ruined right yeah so i can really i can relate to that so much especially like nowadays where i find out like there are like like five or six guys who had talked who had a thing for me it's like why why no one tell me this oh i'm like what the [ __ ] i hate to as one of not one of the guys who had a crush on you but as a guy it's hard to do okay you you run the risk of being rejected and sometimes you're like no yeah failure is potential for failure is worse than even trying no absolutely and i can understand that but yeah makoto the whole thing with um chiaki and kosuke it was very interesting and i'm like oh no i know this person i

29:16 am this person you are the same in that regard there were there were some moments where i definitely related to her all those levels of especially when i was a teenager i'm like oh [ __ ] and that's uh that's not uh not entirely uh by accident i'm sure that's entirely what they were trying to tap into so uh pr props oh absolutely i can see that yeah props to uh and i think that works so well it does you're right and that's why i wanted to praise uh kathleen's writing because i think she she gets that mentality she gets what no absolutely it's not a glorification of high school it is both the positives and the negatives of the experience from a high schooler's perspective there's right oh my god i felt so bad for that one guy who kept getting his ass bullied oh yes that's a guy who were actually

30:06 he had brahmin poured on his head i i'd lose my mind too oh man that was so good but yeah but no yeah i i i definitely kathleen made it very relatable she didn't it's not a sugar like the movie itself isn't doesn't sugarcoat it and kathleen i think made a great adaptation to and kept all that those pieces intact yeah so thank you thank you kathleen and thank you carl for taking on this project um yes now let's move on to the characters in the movie and there are uh quite a few characters uh one thing i like about this movie is that it feels very busy uh crowd shots have lots of people moving around lots of activity school scenes are like there's a scene

30:52 where all the characters are gathered in a courtyard because of a scuffle going on and you just see both the first and second floor is just full of students like it feels like a very full world uh we're not going to talk about every single character but we're going to try and narrow it on to the ones that have the biggest impact on the story sorry the ones who have the least impact um we're going to talk about makoto's mom makoto's dad and her sister miyuki so makoto's mom is voiced by nicole oliver her dad is voiced by brian drummond and her sister is voiced by shannon chan kent okay so i listed three names one name you may instantly recognize there are two maybe not so much but i know every one of you have heard these characters before and i'm going to tell you where you've heard them before

31:38 nicole brian drummond is the only one i feel like you recognize for somewhere yes in fact let me just start with brian drummond so okay you've heard him as um uh benny in black lagoon you have definitely heard him as ryuk in death note he plays the shinigami okay all right yep and in just in case we have any people watching this who don't normally watch anime um i'm going to mention one cartoon that he's done before back into the mid-2000s there was a superman spin-off show about superman's dog called crypto the superdog and it's i remember that so you remember the cat streaky the super cat oh it's been

32:24 so long i don't think i don't remember that well there he had a sidekick the dog had a cat sidekick who was voiced by brian drummond nice yes very small very different ryan the cat very different from apple eating death guy ryuk and [ __ ] the nazis jew benny we also got streaky the super cat so this guy's done quite a lot of different stuff nicole oliver uh this is this is the one i sent to lilac to say like oh my god it's uh someone that you've definitely heard before uh some anime things um if you saw obon star racers you heard nicole as maya way if you've seen any of the recent galaxy express three nine films uh the recent ones that um were uh

33:10 dubbed and released on blu-ray she plays emeraldis in those movies but let me let's skip all that because i know there's a certain fan base who heard the name nicole oliver and instantly thought of her role as princess celestia in the my little pony friendship is magic franchise everyone is now smashing their keyboards and or cell phones and like no no there it is and yes yes my little pony was a canadian dub and not a dub of canadian voice acting work and animated too so you have to hear a lot of voice actors who are in that show in the rest of this whole thing for instance oh

33:55 it's good ladies and gentlemen i hope you're in for a wild ride we're going on a [ __ ] train today it has no breaks not at all we are on actually the oriental express where that one episode where people ate the cake desserts came from i forget what's the name of that speaking it's been a while since i've seen my little pony speaking of my little pony though shannon chan kent uh is pinkie pie in my little pony not the speaking role though uh she's the singing voice in that show oh okay yes so she's got a very uh very distinct voice um she's also um uh christina sierra in gundam double o but to circle it back around to death note uh her most famous role is probably as misa in the death note movies in the

34:41 show okay it's been a hot minute since i watched death no oh [ __ ] okay i can okay i hear twinges of it yeah now it's in my head now and let's just talk okay let's talk about that actually let's talk about shannon's performance because um you know how you were talking earlier about how you thought that a lot of the the voices kind of blended together based on the direction i thought shin oh yeah she did not no she did not shannon is she definitely stood out yeah she is i felt she was the most anime sounding character in the entire cast i like how that's how we're describing anime sounding yeah it's it's a shame because it's a new adjective i mean you know what i mean though right you know by the uh no i do absolutely and like here's

35:26 what's very weird because i completely forgot that this that shannon also was misa because i did i i wanted to go in this blind i didn't look up any like other previous roles because i'm like let me get surprised by some of this [ __ ] you know shannon's miyuki kind of reminded me a lot of jade saxton actually you're not wrong that i can hear that voice yeah it sounds very similar to some of jade's normal like peppy upbeat kind of characters and like her normal tone voice really and i can totally hear hachin in uh in miyuki's absolutely how do i think about it

36:13 absolutely i can hear it too now you say hachin i'm like oh yeah that's definitely hatching right there but no i i really liked rihyuky a lot and shannon was so much fun i think because she's just so upbeat and she has that positive energy about her which is great but she's also very sassy oh so so sassy she has such fun moments of sass um what was one where um she was huh her first lines is literally about time you got up yup like there was a few other times but i think one of the i think the highlight for me was when um makato is trying to figure out the whole time travel thing and uh

36:58 miyuki goes upstairs to check on her oh oh yes her and mom heard a loud thud because she tried leaping off the bed and miyuki opens the door and makato is about to try and leap out of the damn window yep and she's like no you have so much to live for just like whole like stuck like the whole corny like hugging of the legs was like no like that was so funny oh my god i was just laughing so much i was like oh boy you're adorable i like you and that's so telling for uh for a close sibling is that they'll they'll try to stop you from you know jumping off the roof to your death but they will still eat your pudding behind your back with no remorse i know

37:45 to be fair it was mom and dad who let miyuki eat the pudding i don't care i mean yes they're accountable for that too but still why would you even think well this is something my sister bought i'm sure she doesn't want it no yeah i think it was the dad right it was that was like isn't that your sister so and mom's like oh yeah it's she's she's not gonna miss it i'm like thanks mom what yeah no kidding in fact let's use this to segue over to the mom um now okay we'll be quick on these too because both the mom and the dad don't speak too much um they're actually yeah minor characters um but they they do um they have mom and dad voices i guess

38:31 for lack of a better description yes like there there are a couple of the characters i think kind of just blended into the background a little bit um they didn't serve a ton of purpose and they didn't also stand out like shannon's miyuki did which is kind of sad now that i know freaking brian drummond i know right and now i remember who this human being is and i'm very upset i'm like damn it we need you here now let's make this even crazier well he didn't really do that voice brian gave him uh he gave the dad a very hum drum salary man archetype voice like a very i know yeah a very loving but no-nonsense kind of voice which fit with the character i think like hum drum archetype

39:18 is probably accurate for the mom and the dad i mean i do like the um uh the comforting voice that nicole gives to the character because um right she has to sound like an everyday person who you might know and who is you know again very loving person but is also uh like you were saying not very assuming so no yeah which is a shame because it's a shame that she didn't get to you know expand that out a little bit more because again she's emeraldis in uh galaxies three nine she's freaking princess celestia that's so many people who don't like my little pony are gonna be raging right now it's gonna be hilarious um anyway no i mean i think part of it really for nicole and brian is the fact

40:04 that the mom and the dad they don't have a significant role so they kind of just there to exist really so as characters that exist the performances are good they are and i'm glad that uh the the writer uh took the time to include parental characters because that again it makes us feel like a real high school setting like the the oh yeah the least convincing high school anime are the ones with the parents do not exist like azamagadayo or umaruchan where it's just like we can do whatever we want because we don't have parental things or or we can run into a monster musume situation and they went up to the damn farm or they went away on business yes yeah sometimes they don't even address the parents and then like you said sometimes they conveniently write them out oh yeah

40:50 so it's good that there's parents here in this movie yeah so that i think that's all we really have to say about those guys they did a good job for what they had and uh brian needs to brian and nicole need to be in more things i guess yeah and shannon is adorable as [ __ ] and shannon is so nasally and adorable and so yup yes yes so let's take this opportunity to move on to a few more characters who unfortunately don't get to do too much uh acting-wise but they are significant to advancing the plot um and you'll find out why in a bit so we we've dubbed this the mean girl squad and it's not just because we're big lindsay lohan fans we actually refer to these people as like the the mean girls who show up in a lot of high

41:36 school anime they are two best friend characters who are pestering their other best friend to ask out a got that she really likes and they get very pushy about that and a little territorial yeah it's one of those it's it's a less it's a smaller extent of um the yukisoma fan club oh like everybody's not allowed to do anything to yuki soma and then they get [ __ ] pissed the toru is there and just happens to exist in the universe this is almost the same thing but to a less ex to a smaller extent exactly and so that

42:24 this group is comprised of cajo fujitani who is the girl who has a crush on one of the other main characters who we'll get to in a bit um interesting fact she didn't have a crush on him necessarily just for meeting him she developed a crush on him because he was helping take care of her grandma in a nursing home and that is this by the way the sweetest bit of backstory i had ever heard in my life i don't know if it's sweet i mean yes from an outside it sounds sweet it also sounds a little creepy like it sounds a little stalkery it's one of those moments where you have to suspend your disbelief for a hot second to go with it yeah we got to get the plot going here and i'm like okay let's keep the plug it's like let's keep the plot going let's suspend our disbelief for a second oh this is so cute in reality you're right

43:11 it would be very creepy i suppose in an innocent high school crush kind of sense it's adorable oh yeah and uh aided in cajo's pursuit of aforementioned boy are her two best friends uh sakimi um both of them both of whom uh lilac and i both had a bit of a difficult time telling apart from who was who because we know their names just based on the credits but they don't necessarily look too distinct from each other and they don't have a moment where they like address who is who so we're kind of no and and this is gonna go probably into thoughts in a minute but yeah their voices don't exactly uh i almost said mesh together but that's not what i'm thinking of

43:57 they um don't stand out from each other and you're i'm not gonna disagree with you so don't feel bad about saying that uh but what i will take this time to say who voices the characters cajo is voiced by natalie walters sakimi is voiced by merrick hendrixy and moriko is voiced by tabasa st germain now natalie uh is definitely someone you've heard if you again watched a lot of inuwasha because she placed ayame in the inyuasha franchise uh oh i haven't watched the yuyosh in a while which one is i am i hold on keep going i'm now yeah go ahead and miss [ __ ] don't look that up please do so um switching she's also done uh quite a bit of western stuff too um uh polly pocket uh this little um

44:43 pocket size toy that uh some people may remember and had an animated series called polyworld and in that natalie voiced the characters of leah and caroline and not to be restricted to just japanese and american cartoons she also did japan uh chinese cartoons uh there's this english dub for a chinese i believe it's chinese it's our chinese or korean i couldn't quite verify but it's a cartoon called story of saiyun kokku and that and in that show she voiced the character of shun kisa i haven't seen it yet but it looks like something that got a very high end promotion like because it's very unusual that we would get non-japanese uh eastern animation

45:29 dubbed and released so that that's prominent now moving on moving on to two characters that two voice actors you've definitely heard before i'm i'm almost sorry that i i took this long to get that we took this long to get to talking about them because i don't think we've talked about either merrick or tabitha in anything we've done before because uh uh well merrick is uh if you've seen dot hack roots she plays tabby uh if you saw the greatest uh uh [ __ ] the greatest cartoon johnny test pause for groans from the audience she voices one of the sisters susan tess i'm taking it from your reaction that you haven't really seen johnny test before no i mean not i've never really seeked it out but i've seen like in

46:16 passing it's one of those things where it's like i flip on the cartoon network and it happens to be there i'm like i'll watch this for a minute yeah it's one of those situations but okay that's interesting well it has a reputation for being one of the worst animated series ever because it was made in like very cheap uh flash animations starting with the second season so it has a very bad reputation what doesn't have a bad reputation is the thing that she's been in that you you know her from which is black lagoon she's the voice of revvy no freaking way no no you mean no [ __ ] way fair we need to we we have not touched black lagoon yet and this is kind of disappointing because i

47:02 have not seen black lagoon before believe it or not i don't want to i won't spoil anything for you then i'll i'll just let you know that no don't spoil anything for me i know nothing outside of revvy cursing like a sailor and dropping f-bombs every five seconds that is exactly what you should know it for i mean there was a video that i think megan showed me like a few years back of a black lagoon but just every person that every time that someone says the word [ __ ] that's it that that that video was and it's glorious that video is so prominent that i actually took it upon myself to do the same thing for the ova that came out a few years later i edited together a video of the same thing it was just all 108 [ __ ] said in that five episode ova and i

47:48 think that is still the most popular video on my youtube channel yeah you you you were doing you were doing the lord's work no so in fact speaking of that ova uh the black lagoon ova roberta's blood trail tabitha voices roberta in that uh robert roberta is like this gun wielding uh psycho maid and uh she she is like she's she deserved an ova she absolutely did so tabitha's uh done that um she said um in the original shakugan no shana series uh she voiced shauna because like i said season one was dubbed in canada seasons two and three were uh dubbed by funimation and unlike uh stuff like the black lagoon ova uh

48:35 they did not get the canadian cast back actually jeremy lee uh picked up the voice of shauna for seasons two and three so that is uh why there's a voice cast change between seasons one and the other seasons of that franchise but right but you know what that doesn't matter it doesn't matter that she voiced shauna or roberta because she voiced to character is there a my little pony reference that's about to happen here people who just smashed their keyboards and probably just put it back together get ready to do it all over again tabitha voices rarity in the my little pony friendship is magic franchise [Music] i'm getting i'm getting so much enjoyment from the amount of my little pony and you have credits that we're being discussed right now and it's just making me laugh so much right now and let me tell you

49:20 like you do not know the joy that i and anyone who already knew tabitha from black lagoon got watching you know gun wielding psycho made also voice you know proper prim rarity character who just wants to run a boutique and and so dresses for everyone for the gala it was oh it was so nice to watch it it's basically you know it's the equivalent of watching like i don't know iced tea play uh funtime cartoon character that's great yes now uh we've talked now we just spent a lot of time there talking about the voice actors and what they've done before and unfortunate that's probably the most we're going to get to say actually because we're going to keep the sections short because uh like lilac said they're prominent to the plot because they drive

50:07 a conflict in uh trying to get one trying to get cajo to to say that she likes a boy and makoto kind of intervenes in this but uh despite all that they don't say a whole lot in the show so no not really so yeah they're really just there as a plot device yeah and it doesn't help like if kaho didn't really have a character motivation and like a little arc of sorts all three of them would have blended together and would have been stuck in the background yes yeah that's do you feel like that was on purpose though like does it sound like a failed attempt to

50:52 capture the characters or does this seem like uh what the scene called for um like if you were the director would you i can i can see it both ways because like i can kind of see it both ways um because you you would think that each of the characters should be distinct in their own way at the same time though the only one that actually kind of stands out is kaho because she's called kaho by name and she actually has a story to her and she's also you know she's shy and soft-spoken so it stands out from sakimi and moriko who are more abrasive and almost kind of

51:38 condescending when they speak oh no absolutely but like it also i'm just kind of sad that they don't exactly stand out a lot more but at the same time how many times in high school have you run into groups of girls like this who are very similar and also very uh territorial about uh who gets to date who yeah that's beside the point but uh no but i mean like they could come off as sounding similar because they are similar in personality and motivations and things like that so i can see it both ways where maybe the direction they didn't work to

52:26 try and make these characters stand out all that much to make them distinct but i can remember some points in high school where there were these there were clicks of people and sometimes these clicks of people sounded like they were twins or like like siblings long-lost siblings or something because they sound very similar yeah so i can see it both ways it's hard to just to say like what the actual reasoning or the final choice was i mean i'm imagining directing wise they went with that whole sounding similar to like what like high school clicks and things might kind of sound off yeah sound like but i think it also was a detriment too

53:13 because like even even sometimes especially since the these girls do have something to do like there are even some clicks where they do have like personalities that stand out among the group like in the group internally and it's a little it's a little sad that sakimi and moriko don't have that and then kaho's just here as the shy quiet girl so i can see it both ways it's just hard to distinguish like what the actual thought process was well i mean look at something like fruits basket um toru has two best friends uetani and hanujima who are not just uh distinct looking but they sound very

53:59 some different from each other now if they had gone that direction in this dub and they'd made one uh yankee sounding and one uh droll and goth sounding it wouldn't it would clash with the character designs because their character no yeah because that's not even the stereotypes that they're going with for these characters anyway i mean just as an extreme example like you could still make one like high pitched and one like lower voice or something intentional to make them stand out the key thing is that they both play uh [ __ ] high school girl very well um especially in uni in um joint unison with each other like um no yeah and i mean they're there to push kaho along it because

54:46 out of the three of them kaho does stand out and that's the whole point but to be fair i i want to give credit to both uh merrick and tabitha because they they have some really good one-liners like um well they do it's great well like yeah there's like one scene in the middle of the movie where they're they're watching from a distance as uh makoto is like good friends with uh kosuke the guy that kaho has a crush on and uh merrick's just like like begrudgingly saying like she's definitely putting us to shame yep and then in contra there are some there are some fun one-liners it's great so and i don't yeah they're not super distinct but i i do think that america had a slightly is like on the slightly brattier side and tabitha's on like the more condescending side

55:32 but you do need um i suppose a character sheet a reference sheet in front of you with the name under it to remember which one is which oh yeah again first time watching this and i could not tell who was who also because i if i'm right they never called them by their own names in the film they don't you're right there's not so that so that does not help me figure out who they are they are essentially girl a and girl b yeah basically like but i think the main thing with this trio is to basically help push kaho make her stand out to in that regard it does work and she because kaho is very distinct and different compared to the other two yeah even when she gets exasperated like

56:19 um she's uh getting very flustered she still says soft-spoken she doesn't drop her veneer of shyness just because she's blushing that's just how she is she was never taught to be a a confident take charge kind of individual so that's why she needs her best friends to kind of help prop her up and they feel it's their job to do so no absolutely yeah but that that being said uh it's not it's not a miscasting it's not a misdirection kind of thing it's just kind of the nature of these characters so i i don't know yeah so we just want to end this off by saying well done well acted fitting for the character for what the the roles needed it's just an evil of that they weren't designed by the original japanese director to be

57:04 distinguishable from one another that what who are meant to be distinguishable are our next batch of three characters now this is where we get into people who actually are distinguishable have we're getting to the real meat and potatoes yes we we've had our side dishes now let us move on to the real hands of this clock we're gonna talk we're going to talk about uh makoto's aunt kazuko we're going to talk about one of her best friends kosuke who is the guy that kahu had a crush on and we're going to talk about makato's uh best girlfriend as far as we can tell yuri who becomes very prominent in something of a love triangle near the middle of the movie so yep kazuko is voiced by saffron

57:50 henderson kosuke is voiced by alex zahara and yuri is voiced by christie marsden so saffron henderson is uh is been around for quite a while um if you've seen any of the the new galaxy access express nine movies uh she plays uh tetsuro who is kind of like the main human boy character in that franchise uh she also okay she voiced lucrezia knowing and the gundam wing franchise i mentioning that because i'm assuming again uh the adult swim toonami watching crowd probably saw that when it was first coming out what they may not have seen though is back in 1995 there was a ocean group dub of dragon ball

58:36 and in that saffron voiced goku and gohan oh okay yes like young goku like in the actual dragon ball franchise okay interesting yeah so she's uh not only uh uh been a distinct amount of characters but has also been around for a while uh see alex is voice i'm sorry alex has a voice uh things like in gundam double o he played he played lock on stratos in in gin nose is it guintamer or jintama gintama he voiced in gintama alex voices shinsuke but as something of a bit of an older dub of

59:22 a cult classic if you've seen the show nana alex voiced the character of mr muzuki okay i haven't seen nana yet but i i've heard it's uh i've forgotten i forgot nana was an ocean dub actually yes it was and oh [ __ ] i mean i really like beck mongolian chop squad and i've been told that nana is like a good uh female-centric uh kind of show that attracts a lot of the same fans that beck had i can't i can either confirm nor deny this because i haven't watched all of back yet so okay that's fair enough um and uh to give alex's uh props because those were three kind of older dubs you

1:00:08 may be asking has he done anything recently has he been in my little pony for example uh we're not going to talk about that we are going to say though that he has done a lot of live action uh stuff recently as like uh just bit characters um that uh that's prominent in and of itself like he's probably not a person you recognize on the street but he's done he's been very productive he's like if you need a bit character in your live action thing that's being filmed in toronto alex is a guy for you nice yes and to round it out let's talk about christy marsden a little bit now christy has uh been in dubs for the mobile suit gundam franchise she was frau beau in that franchise uh to move it over to a american no not

1:00:54 american um well in american [ __ ] uh canadian co-production back when the iron man movie came out in 2008 they made an animated series called iron man armored adventures and in that oh yeah yeah which i didn't see very much of i just remember uh it being the obligatory cartoon tie-in for the live-action movie that we need to have but she voiced the character of whitney stain or metamask in that franchise okay um do you remember um a twin duo from back in the 90s uh they were on sitcom and then they got really popular called uh mary kate and ashley olsen yes well did you know they had a cartoon

1:01:40 no actually i didn't let me tell you okay i know they had their own like mary kate and ashley like adventure movies and stuff as a kid as kids what yeah so uh deke uh a canadian animation group back in the 90s they wanted to get in on that mary kate and ashley money and so they made a show called mary kate and ashley in action where they're like super spies essentially and the reason i bring this up and the reason i bring this up is because christy plays a character named holly in that but her role is not important the point is is that there was a mary kate and ashley cartoon that everybody has since long forgotten about i've never even heard of this i knew they had their own like live action like adventure movies and [ __ ] but no and this wasn't even yeah this this was

1:02:27 like in the early 2000s so when they were like they're more faced let me tell you that's funny if i could i would spend a whole episode just telling you about the cartoons based on famous people that have existed out there one day we will sit down and we will watch the show where john candy the comedian is a camp counselor oh man that sounds like a fun time i'm i'm down let's go we'll do that after this let's we gotta talk about these these three characters uh so okay okay okay we'll do this later let's move let's start with kazuko because um in the entire cast it's mostly full of teenagers and young adults kazuko is stands out because she's like the one adult that makato can confide in

1:03:14 and you know tell her about hey i almost got run over by a train but i didn't and i don't know why and she's like oh well clearly you were time leaping it happens to many girls around this time your age see okay it was that moment where where i got so lost okay and i had to suspend my disbelief i'm like wait there is no way that auntie kazuko strana believes this [ __ ] and is just taking this mock with those words at face value i'm like what the [ __ ] is happening so you never had like a um like uh an aunt that you

1:04:00 really uh i suppose like was uh not a role model but like uh almost your mental age and you could confide in about weird stuff not really i don't really have a close relationship to my aunts honestly i have oh i have a few yeah i don't really have a relationship with any of my aunts so no i can't speak to that okay i mean i i didn't i didn't feel that i had to suspend my disbelief because i just assumed that since uh kazuko's um uh you know a single non-married person who the mom specifically says ask your aunt when she's going to get married i just assumed that she was seen as a bit of a weird eccentric person by the

1:04:45 rest of the family so of course she would believe in time travel without question well i got thrown off because she just straight up accepted it right off the bat i'm like you're not gonna keep asking questions and like wondering like you're not even gonna question anything but then i also learned before we recorded this episode the reason why she actually straight up is okay with this yeah and i'll explain this for those watching because there may be some people who've seen the movie love the movie but didn't know this about the original okay so this i certainly didn't and then it makes a lot more sense now that i know okay so uh long story short the original novel the 60s novel that the story is based off of uh did not focus on makato the lead

1:05:30 character was kazuko and it was it featured a lot of the same elements it featured kazuko having two male best friends and involved her gaining the ability to time travel and it followed a lot of the same beats but it wasn't the exact same plot so it's a very interesting choice that the producers decided in making this movie not to just recreate the novel but make kazuko a character in it and then focus on her niece like they'll be like if they remade the wizard of oz but instead of focusing on dorothy it's dorothy's cousin and then it's like auntie dorothy i i traveled to oz it was so weird and she's like oh yeah i traveled to oz when i was here it's very common for boys your age like

1:06:18 what no like again i knew nearly virtually nothing about the movie except for the bare minimum of the summary so i was very thrown off when kazuko was willingly accepting everything and then when noah explained this to me before we started recording i'm like oh so she's a tie into the original novel yeah she's done this before she's she's done this before she does know her stuff got it i am good now i understand so uh a fun uh thing about uh saffron is that she she's very she sounds very rich is the best way when i was i was writing down like my notes while watching the movie i'm like i don't know a way to describe her voice

1:07:03 acting other than queen like she she's she's almost got a regal way that she holds herself and they even refer to her in the dub as anti-witch so i guess no yeah yeah she's and that's fitting it's very fitting that she sounds older than the rest of the characters she's got a lot of uh compassion to her voice and especially in the scene where because she's a she's a paint restorer she's an art restorer and we see her explaining about an art piece that she's been working on and essentially you hear the compassion and love in her voice when she talks about how this art piece was made at a time of incredible poverty and war-torn you know ness in japan and oddly enough that painting

1:07:51 actually has plot relevance it is it's like it's like chef um oh god what's called chekhov's painting it's um something in the two camillas i can't remember the name of it a hundred percent i did i didn't write that something in the two camillas i don't remember but it's a very it's very abstract uh almost impressionist type of painting yeah it's very interesting though it is and uh i'm gonna randomly look that up and see if sure i'm gonna randomly look it up and see if it's listed under a certain character no way it's not but i was looking at wikipedia fail but i like saffron's acting here and i don't think i've really heard her in uh much before because i haven't seen the

1:08:36 galaxy express three nine movies yet so uh i feel like i need to find out more things because she's kind of very distinct otherworldly way of speaking that is very soothing and very fitting for this character yeah uh like yeah i can i can see it too like she's she's very soothing very mature like she she knows obviously she knows what the heck makato is going through and she's very understanding but at the same time she's also this almost like a voice of reason and common sense where cause makoto again like you were saying confides in her

1:09:22 in a few different things and then when boys are a thing she's like well you you know you eat why not go out on a date why not go out with them and if you if it doesn't it's not meant to be you can just go back to the way things were it's like you don't understand auntie oh i oh i understand very well i've done this story before it's almost like they wrote a novel about it and we're just retelling it [Laughter] just putting a little spin on it my favorite little advice she gives is not even in a direct or roundabout way it's um it's when makato buys her some desserts as a thank you for helping her out and when makato gets like all power hungry about

1:10:07 all i have to do is leap back to last week and i've got all my allowance spending again and then kazuko like very calmly sips her tea and says well i'm glad that you're not using your newfound superpowers for good or anything for anything productive and then she also said i think too she's like haven't you ever wondered if that if your good fortune is causing misfortune for someone else you're just twisting the knife and michael jordan is like [ __ ] she's much wiser than she lets on

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