Engrosser's Script - Majuscules A, M, N - Calligraphy Demo (PART 1)

0:20 hello hello hi Margaret hello welcome welcome welcome now today and so I'm gonna show you two Wow it's a lot in my mind cuz there quite a lot of things I want to show everyone and I really want to make sure I organize this nicely so today starting from today is the first day of the calligraphy copy sheets demo on the classic style so we're going to learn the classic capitals letters in an

1:06 grossest script now for those who are very new to calligraphy or for those who have not been doing a lot of calligraphy maybe I want to also introduce you a little bit about my tools so I have brought home so I'm currently at home I have brought home this starter kit so hopefully you can see it so I just hold a camera like that now this is a calligraphy starter kit which I actually put together I use it for all mine depend calligraphy workshop for especially for those who are new to the classes or like intro or beginner classes and this boss said I want to quickly introduce you so you have an idea you know if you're somewhere else in the world and you're looking for a

1:52 nice calligraphy starter kit set because I actually have been looking on Amazon and that just tons of like set that provides the nips that are not you know like quite right and stuff so hi I'm well thank you I just I want to know your name because I know you're based in the UK right considered calligraphy so maybe you can let me know and because I checked out your profile and I couldn't find your name anyway let me continue for us this is the starter kit set so inside you have a wooden pen holder for those who have who would like to use a strict pen holder most people will be like left-handers you can request for the strip hand holder but the starter kit

2:38 comes with an oblique pen holder and it's made of wood and it's a very lovely good wait for it not too heavy not too light now there's also a bottle of water ink which I always put a zip back just in case it spills and you'll find that is also a nickel Gnip okay and a little toback the tote bag just contains all the supplies especially after the virus hopefully everyone can take out the calligraphy and write elsewhere not just staying at home so you can use the little pad and put your egg your nib and your pen holder all inside and in the box set it also it also comes with a starter kit guide so this is a guide that I put together it's

3:24 very nicely foiled you can see right it's really lovely and shiny it talks about what the tools are it also showed you up sorry I'm using one hand it also show you how to set up the different view of the point now make sure when you set up the pen holder make sure your lip is aligned to the centre okay aligned no matter what lip you're using please make sure it's aligned I can talk you through a little bit later when I'm writing and this is talking about how to apply in so all the basics it's just mainly a starter kit that is great for those who are new to calligraphy and also for those who maybe want to buy a set for

4:10 your Mother's Day gift or you know or for friends who are staying at home because it does give you a brief idea and so also coming with a foiled of the back guide I feel I haven't been promoting myself and not because I usually sell them while mainly it was through the workshop because it comes with the workshop and over the years over the past six years of my teaching this kid has been grown to many homes and many cola covers okay now sorry about that but I thought because some people do email me and message me about good tools and I thought that could be a good start now since we're learning the calligraphy style which is called

4:56 Ingrosso script I would like to give you a little bit better idea of what exactly it is now for those who have no idea basically you can simply divide a calligraphy Institute types two groups one is obviously the historical script wizard which is traditional and the other is modern okay now when online a lot of people maybe tend to write a little bit more modern style I also do that but - this is strongly my opinion so if you really want to / how to say like if you want to have a very good foundational skills it's important to learn from traditional script because it

5:41 teaches you the basics all those background the foundation of writing good script now I have a few books with me today I know you might be eager to write but I want to talk about the background first now this is scenario menu okay this is one of the book that is super super important I think it was published in 1818 95 and this is a copy from 1981 okay so anyway it's a book which is amazing okay I found this in 2016 at the IMF conference one I asked a calligrapher skyla so you might have

6:27 heard of Scylla let's a queen and he told me oh you can find it on eBay and I said oh I tried it many times but it was I was never lucky and he was so lucky he just searched on eBay he's like a eBay King and found this copy for me I think it was about a current member around Hong Kong me a $801 about 100 us it is expensive because then they are like kind of not in print but anyway this is one of the favorite book that I love when I study and gross a script which is a style that you've got a loan in May and June so you can see all these amazing amazing like

7:13 handwriting letters it's just can't get over it and I usually read the details as well which I'm gonna share with you today my summary okay so pages and pages and also this book by the way was the author so people who comply who put together all the information they are instructors of office school back then it's called as an Aryan College of penmanship so it was in Ohio in the states and Columba Columbus Ohio yeah and anyway so this is more like an instructional book it's quite funny because as you read through it talks about how you can make money from

8:01 writing nice script so this is one of my favorite book which I highly highly recommend you now if you want to download it David Grimes so David grime also on his website which is miss Grimes mas gr i mes comm I can write it down for you and he has this PDF he scanned the high-resolution and put it on a PDF and you can download it on his web which is incredible ever since I start teaching you know the refine your script lesson I talked about this to all my students I think it's one of the best

8:48 information you can we get so I write it down here so M a s G ro I am s dot-com and you will be looking for I think it takes some time because the file size is very very very large but it's in high resolution so usually I can down I download it on my phone I have it on my iPad and you can pour it out any time to study and reference it so always Lisa nary money okay so definitely check him out he's amazing now and also the next one I want to talk about quickly is a book which is in

9:34 Chinese I'm not sure have you seen this before I bought it directly from the author Richie way he's based in China he wrote this and it's purely so rich he wrote a purely about Ingrosso script so everything's in Chinese but sometimes I think even if you can't read the language he can kind of like look at the strokes and all the details I met him in person a few times and his and grocer script it's just pure joy to watch I remember speaking with him he spoke to me Mandarin and he speaks English as well but I was done I was speaking to him English and he speak to me in

10:21 Mandarin there's such a fun day together anyway so this is a great book and my demo I think what I would do at the end I would take photo or you can screen shot these photos and put it nicely for you yeah so it's in Chinese and the English name is pointed pen calligraphy I don't know if this is the book name I'm sorry yeah it is the Pope name pointer pen calligraphy it is one of a great reference I love it so much now I won't talk about books forever so bear with me but these are very important now also if you want to learn more about angerosa script or copperplate so as some people may call there is still a big debate about copper plate and engrosses script

11:08 for many many years and I've heard at the conferences where people are talking about it I would I want to just keep it simple because essentially that is a huge debate in my mind you can just kind of like categorize them at the same is the same like copper plate round hand you know and grosso so essentially the same thing is just names that comes up different period of time style evolved slightly different you know well because there's been a very old script now with copper plate this is a book by Paul Antonio okay paw Antonio a very good calligrapher based in London he has a yin-yang approach which is I think it's very interesting you can screenshot this if you want I

11:56 don't sell this spoke at the store but you can I think you can get it in a lot of American calligraphy shops or you can just email him directly he will let you know he's very nice guy and anyway his approach is very interesting I just love all the little details like super geometry like you know how you it's incredible that way of thinking you know that hey how do you think about doing the flourish with the oval and how to move around the spaces it's definitely worth reading if you are into learning in a more foundation how to say like a more

12:42 stronger foundation no way okay um I I just think it's so it's very innovative I am amazed by this book and I managed to get a sign which is so pretty look at his handwriting uh he got a digital version Thank You Chloe yay so you can download on it I always like actual copy if I can get one now I think lastly the last book that I would like to mention this is last book it's Tommy Thompson skip lettering for artists a lot of times people refer calligraphy as lettering it's kind of an old way of calling you know this is how they say in

13:30 the in the old days now so I found it very interesting I got this book I got this book long long time ago when I first started calligraphy I think probably at least like from 2012 I like this book because it has a clear break down of the alphabets right and look wait let me go back to the front a little bit and I like how it exploded like spend alphabets so big and talk about that the slope the slant we call it now this is how they now this is how they break down the stems okay the principle strokes we call them

14:16 and when I'm showing you the capitals and lower cases in the coming demos it's gonna be divided into different groups for your alphabets because we will try to group the closest looking ones to practice together and this will help you to really build up that muscle memory instead of just a b c d e right because there's a lot of similarity amounts certain and alphabets which we will show you now if you just simply look here you can see i and you you know L and T have very similar structure a and D&G right the oval right in the middle so this is one of my favorite books too definitely worth looking but what I want

15:02 to point out is I actually put a highlight mockery is sometimes when you look at books throughout these all these calligraphy books that I've been reading they have different ways of teaching so you may have different groups of alphabets that belong to this so I mean sorry to say it better is for example the way I group the alphabet may not be the same as certain people some other authors in the book write because this just amount of 26 alphabet there's a lot of similarity and you can have one alphabet that can belong to certain groups okay so just think of like a person who has like multiple personality and they fit into different groups of

15:48 people in a society completely random but that may help you to think no this is the breakdown of the strokes okay now that's just writing so I've been using this new copy sheets called the classic capitals and inside a packet if you buy online digital or printed it will come in a special separate package like an extra is when the alphabet is in group I also have them princess and digital in all the a or the B or the C and so on and so forth but when I'm demonstrating I'm gonna use this which is also in your packet okay

16:34 now let's get started oh by the way in the in the PDF you also come with the alphabets in an exemplar format which means exemplar is like all the a to see like an example yeah they have a fancy word for an exemplar I think I pronounce it currently an exemplar sorry barely I'm not native English so sometimes I still struggle a little bit with getting a right word to describe anyway so this is a to Z and also I have it printed and in digital format that you can use in different groups okay so today we will focus on

17:20 group 1a m and n now there are lots of information to share with you so first of all today I'm actually gonna change to use an echo Gnip and also my own KMA Ptolemaic art oblique pen holder which is in the starter kit now when you're practicing you can feel free to experiment with different nibs because certain nips have different flexibility and it definitely helps you sometimes to help manipulating the nib now I think Nicol G definitely belongs to us Tiffany okay so I'm actually just cleaning wiping off the oil using the ink so you just dip it on okay now the nickel Gnip this nib is quite stiff that means

18:06 certain things like if I try to manipulate meaning I'm trying to control how to lip open and close you may find it a little bit tricky sometimes but it is still a very good Nick I know that teacher Michael Sol he loves Nick oh geez so much highly highly recommended to students and I like nickel G - it's a very reliable nib now after you remove the oil and you dip it into the ink hopefully you should see the ink will rest sorry it will be have a layer of ink on your neck okay so if there's oil you have to keep removing in the past I used my saliva

18:52 I literally just spit on the tissue and because of the mask these days I'm not wearing a mask now but because most of the time we have to wear a mask so I don't I don't use saliva anymore you can also try to use toothpaste to remove the oil now once you have remove the oil the nib should have ink you see covering the whole nip now if you have struggles with nib with ink covering on the nib so like you know you've you experience ink like lizard dots around it like beats little bones right both of ink then there's oil and oil doesn't mix with water and English water so they don't mix together so when you have to remove it first now this now

19:39 let's start writing an eight now this group a M and N is what we call the push stem group okay so actually haven't written out maybe you can see from here okay it's called a pushed stem group okay what it means is if we look at the push stems so you have this push stem okay I start from the base line going upwards okay from the base line going upwards so a M and n is your pushed stem group so the first let me try to demonstrate first of all you will see

20:27 there's a terminal now we call this a terminal for the dot looking thing so it's a terminal so what I tend to do is I'm gonna draw the outline of it okay you draw the outline and then ink it in now when you ink it in you just simply press on the lip sometimes this may happen because this is a brand new nib it's very sharp you just pick up paper fiber can use focused eye camera I don't think so okay yep sort of do you see the favorite paper fiber really come up cuz the ink it's very wet and then they're just in a

21:14 very sharp knit anyway we come from the baseline you're gonna curl and go up very light and turn to your right now it's like a slide the way I see it is like the roller coaster slide you kind of like it's an s-curve so you start from here and go up relaxed come up and turn to your right so you have a curve on this side and up and curve out okay it is the same as the line of Universal Beauty right you have if you have been learning with me but it's just have no pressure now notice this line currently is off slant because the slant is here which is

22:00 the 55 degrees slant right so it's off slant then you lift here and you come down by pressing gradually adding more pressure and then you want to pull your nip to the left a little bit okay this is a very sharp knit okay let me try and then you start from here going up press a little bit and then out now one of us one thing is what happened okay sometimes this is happening bleeding with Hong Kong the weather I don't know

22:48 if you notice it's extremely extremely humid so paper they get wet now let's try this paper one more time you have one terminal and press lift so you want to start with a light pressure there maybe I have to change the NIP very light come up lift then you start from here thin adding pressure on your index finger to us here you can pull a little bit to your left okay now uh I don't really enjoy writing with this

23:33 you will skip through the stamp because there's a puddle of ink here you want to just come out when you come out you want to think about exiting in an oval form so this is part of an oval okay you see it's not just a line that goes any direction now I'm gonna try this by changing and older nip maybe that will be better - sometimes when your nip it's so new and so sharp and the ink is causing this bleeding you have to try out doing things

24:21 press light - right lift slowly adding pressure and you can pull to your left so it closed a little bit better and then you want to come up you want to come up relax and press a little bit here exit you want to lift lift here and come out okay now the reason why I jump is because there's an ink pedal and also notice that this shape here in this funny eyes shape like that okay

25:09 okay so you notice this is like a fish but the angle is pointing elsewhere and I want to use the color depends it is oval pointing that way now I think one of the most most difficult thing is to write this when there's no copy sheet no traceable items right meaning there's nothing here it can be very tricky for

25:54 someone to just eyeball and and over like that now the key is you want to think about it's like a big v-shape okay well this is how I see it so I will imagine that it's a huge v-shape I extend this line right you see this is like a v-shape this is on the 55 degree slant all right and you want to start from about slightly above the the base line and then you come up and I will keep thinking about the oval is standing this way okay so you come up and then jump here and out okay now let's try one more time so I'll

26:47 talk you through the details again so first of all you have you draw the time needed to round shape okay it's called a terminal and the terminal should be lifted about the base line and you press into Inc you have very light hand come up okay it's a curve it's off slant and curve then you start by pressing and then you pull a little bit to your left I'm sorry about this page now you go up

27:36 press a little bit you skip through Dixit okay another thing I could think off why is bleeding is because I added a lot of water in my water ink before the demo now that's could be the reason because when it's too much water and it's causing the bleeding okay but I think you can still see it so draw to ever know press lightly as light as possible up and curve out your hand if I'm showing you is you want to move rotate for the push stem you go curve up and curve okay you have to think about

28:21 this movement like a slide basically then you want to start with like a hair line meaning there's no pressure at all and press gradually and I will pull my nib to the left okay and you start from here go up relax press a little bit lift no just like that okay now this fish fish shape it is the tricky part we call this and I think there's a name for it it's like a you can call it a direct ovo kind of like a crossbar because you know the t crossbar

29:07 right the lowercase T crossbar let me write it up okay so that's a crossbar here and you can call this a crossbar oh you can go a fishy thing yeah all right thank you getting a bit nervous because the the paper but it does happen sometimes you know you you you know that you are not alone so in bleeding can be a problem of a paper because of the humidity really trying to keep your paper if possible a sealed container because you want to keep them dry if your nip is very new

29:55 and very scratchy it could cause problem because it will pick up the fiber quicker as in sorry easier and what else if your nib is brand new there's oil on top of your nib because there is like mechanical oil or industrial oil or can be your oil from your finger because we've been you know like human we have natural human oil right there are many reasons and it gets onto your nib and oil and water doesn't mix and if you don't remove the oil the oil allows more ink to be sitting on the back of your lip when you add pressure adding coming down or you know add pressure the ink run down faster which can be problematic

30:43 because then that means paper it's more easy to pleat alright now the next one is the M now letter M I've seen from the Silurian menu there are really different ways of teaching showing how to write so maybe now because that could be this paper I don't know I'm gonna try try on here just on a blank page now for the letter M you have you can see right now letter M you have the bolt turn o draw a round shape at the pressure notice this is slightly above the base line

31:28 so this is my X height this is my base line and then you want to curl off slant and curl to your right okay now the second stroke here it is actually coming down so there were there two versions as I mentioned right so the first version which is on your copy sheet that I'm gonna show you looks like this so you have you have coming down like that okay it ends with a point it is pretty much on the slum but you can see that the nip opens up on your left time it opened up

32:16 and make it a little bit more wider because there's a Down stroke right it's a shaded stroke and then you want to come up now when you come up it's a push them again but this time we just don't have any time no right so you start with a very soft curve and turn to your right you see curve up and cuff very soft very very very subtle and then you do the same and with a point and then you want to come up now when you do the we call this an exit stroke when you do an exit stroke okay make sure it is in an oval foam

33:06 just like that so that's an EM this is quite a large size nice to see you as a leader okay hi everyone thanks for joining so I will try one more time toward the terminal pressed and lift I'm gonna start up and kerttu you're right okay then you next one is you come down on pretty much on slant and add the pressure and relax reduce the pressure earlier you can almost fit a triangle to remind you on the top of this triangle which is here you reduce the pressure

33:53 now starting with this point but this is a very subtle push them which means you curve go up and then bend to the right come down same and lift and then okay a little bit wider but the idea is you want it to be this to be hitting more in the center okay so that is the first one you can draw you know like narrower a little bit narrower it's in

34:40 the like that okay this is a bit too wide sorry I'll write it down is too wide also I find it like when you're practicing it is better that you go keep going on you know you're right without massive stopping because when you stop um it kind of loses that flow a little bit and this is much closer to this to the size that I want okay so this is good and M is actually a really tricky one I personally think the

35:28 classic letter M is not easy at all okay so now this is the first one which is have parallel so let me come to this long part which I will show you step by step again go oh we only have free alphabets but there are lots of little details so you want to start with the curve right make sure this curve and go up it's off slant but then you curve back you'll see then this is also a soft curve very soft and soft curve out obviously all the oval it's all implied

36:16 here that's all you know it's all fitting within the lines okay and everything about this you will have an big oval here there's a little oval there's a little oval but I won't draw on it okay now what is important yes when you come down this is parallel to the slant these two lines are parallel okay this is not on the slant this is off slant here and obviously this is also off slant but the

37:04 key the this primary stems which is I mean not promise them but more like the shaded stroke here the primary shade here this and this will be on the 55 degrees not okay now so this is one method now but if you studied let's say I think from Port Antonio Spock is very different than em let me quote the book and show you there it really isn't that one way of writing now if I show you this second one so from Paul and Tony this book sorry I'm using your book Paul I hope you don't mind but it's been really useful you can see this curve right the the second this stroke here

37:50 it's an S curve so here curve down and curve this is not this is just straight and up now so there are different methods as in different way of running them so the second one that I want to bring to you is this one okay so this one will be nice try really not my strongest skills to write em it's hard does this again the x-height ok now you start with a tiny terminal draw a dot and press you want to keep it very

38:39 consistent because a and the tons of Domino in the and Grocer script magister which is the capitals so you want to keep them consistent the same size of darts same you know like we're writing anyway I'm curve and curve okay now remember you swing from thin adding pressure and back to thin this this time when you come up you have an S curve okay then you want to come down you check this

39:27 triangle space it's gonna be very as close as possible the negative spacing so if well I'm not gonna write but I will talk you through here it's the triangle and here is your triangle okay so you kind of have an idea you want to hit this point so you come down on slant to a thin point now you lift your pen and then go up okay so again it's gradually getting thicker this line technically it's like

40:13 your lowercase L although I can touch up a little bit okay I won't mess it up too much but this scene alright alright one more time every time when you're practicing think about every little steps which I'll do a summary if you're not sick of me at the end of the demo because I have written out notes so you have a terminal and press you want to curve up and curve lift second one this time instead of

40:59 coming on the slant you want to do a kind of an s-curve okay thin thicker back to sin make sure the thickest point is in the center area now coming up to push them so you want to start with a curve come up and curve okay the last one is like the letter L the lowercase L you start from thin adding pressure back to thin point and out okay so there you go that's your M okay you can touch up just to make that as the widest point

41:52 and that and this should be about the same width okay so this is the M and I personally like this M a little bit better because I think it looks kind of like I don't know a little bit more friendly looking anyways now the next one we're gonna do is let it end so this is your excite okay you have a ball shaped terminal you outline it first pressed and stop then you want to curl this time you curl but you keep going and lift you don't want to curl back

42:40 like the a or the M you just want to come up okay I should come a little bit higher okay well sorry now then what we can do is there two methods actually it's interesting because I've taken quite a few copper blade or in grossest work class some teachers which they mentioned you can tilt the paper rotate the paper okay to clockwise so that it's a little bit more straight like now and then you can do thin adding pressure thick and back to thin and you tilt your paper back to where you were where it was sorry and then you come up make sure

43:25 your nib is parallel to is not right so you want to come up and turn okay now when you turn you can either finish it off with a terminal or it is quite okay or you can keep it just a hand line which I'm gonna demonstrate next okay so you have first a bold terminal press usually a press one once

44:14 and then you come here curl coming up and stop don't turn like the M okay you notice the M Uecker in the a you're also current but this is just keeping it upwards direction now you can either turn the paper oh the second method this is from the scenario menu and I quote directly from the book it says you may shift the elbow slightly to the right in making this shade now what it means is you don't so I repeat one more time the book says you may shift the elbow slightly to the right in making the shade now first of all I think the scenario menu this book was assuming

45:01 everyone is right-handed so for right handers you shift your shoulder to your right like kind of elbowing someone then your body well what I believe is correct is more tilted now facing to the right hand side because you're your shoulders just shifted so incepting the paper you shift your hand or ship your shoulder and then you create that lovely thin thick thin stroke okay then you come up or on okay no this is actually not really the way I do it but I read it but I also

45:47 want to talk you know let you know they're different methods so this you see it's off slant which is incorrect sorry but the idea is because you shift the shoulder let me try one more time there's something that you need to put in practice to get more accuracy okay and I shift the shoulder laughing just run off and then you come up on slant and okay maybe that's yes that's a bit closer but I should have touched them to the two lines together now also notice this you

46:35 can just exit like very light but with your idea is it's an oval okay obviously that contains an oval here okay so you want thin thickest and thin in my classes I always say TTT so what it means okay that's not my nice so sorry the

47:22 camera it's kind of in my way let's figure out all right so this the thin well we call this the thickest and then okay so I say T DT so if I do a line like okay that's better a second one you want

48:08 to have thin thicker more thickest and back to thin it's all Croatian okay that's a little bit now this is not good because the the thin line is too short do you see and this is the thickest line is longer and then this is kind of like definitely too long so it's not balanced you want to get the top bottom it's better okay when you do the will come to the stem in the future but I just want to show you the TTT concept okay the thin thickest and thin concepts and I think a lot of times if you're struggling to create lovely gradation or

48:54 second thin it is so much about your pressure right here okay now with the leather and I think if you want to pay attention to the spacing you will see the triangle okay so I'll use this as an example you see this negative space okay you want you want them to be as close as possible okay okay now I was going to say I would do some quick summary I probably will talk you through it and I also want to talk about some tips because when I was

49:39 preparing yesterday night and I thought a lot of people you know you may understand the concept but to execute it it will take a little bit of time because a lot of people haven't developed the muscle memories or you know it is definitely through time to develop those skills so don't rush into it but I have prepared some ideas here ok and now when you do the do you remember I talked about the ball terminal ok now a little bit more detail because we said that all we want to try to be as as we want to be as consistent as possible

50:27 right now when you do the ball terminal you really want to think about is how high I'll show you let's put a baseline here okay now this is the baseline okay let's call it the BL baseline when you're doing when you're writing the terminal you want to determine how high your terminal is so some people bring it quite higher okay maybe I keep it straight the paper you don't have to tilt your head or you can keep it a little bit lower

51:12 okay you see this is different the distance it's different so this is this hi this is shorter from the baseline right the distance so by sorry by being consistent is you have to be aware where you place your terminal every time now this is where I usually place it it is slightly if you consider this is the center the center of this bar okay of this bomb then my terminus just below the center hello hi Gordon how are you

52:00 feeling better so amazed by your by your recovery and also all your donation to help people okay so the time now you go like this and remember you press and just a press in now also besides how high and how low another thing I thought of to get consistency is how you turn how we draw this terminal so I'm gonna just make it bigger okay imagine we're writing a larger scale size so you think about when you outline the terminal okay whether you're doing a

52:46 direct oval okay so that right over it's counterclockwise all right oval it's a counterclockwise or you do well opposite so on finding space counterclockwise and then you add the pressure think about these little details right so this is your indirect oval sorry it's not over but indirect shape sorry I'm so used to saying over this is actually not an oval this is a ball shape or you can call round shape

53:34 okay well so cool okay indirect round so I think you get it now so this is the the sort of details you think about so you always what do you mean what a cool name or pence Ottoman yes it's so cool he's he is I think it's anti quando - do I am I correct maybe please correct me you draw you can practice join the dot and pay attention to unit if there is

54:22 fiber for example sometimes they come up more when you turn longer you see it's really obvious because when you turn on the paper until unless you're using super high quality paper for the practice you know paper that doesn't have paper fiber that comes out but most paper can only taking you know only after you turn it several times so that's how you start now also the terminal when you have this I I tend to do a direct um or what I press now what you want to think about is you want to extend from here and come up okay so the

55:09 ball-shaped terminal Oh home I don't bore shape it's like this okay the I don't ink it in so you can see the line better it's not like a cherry okay again in my class we put an unhappy face this is happy face alright it's not like a fish ball Chinese Hong Kong fish ball on a stick now I teach in a way that you can imagine like a child Troy okay

55:54 so in in the child drawing a butterfly okay so this is the shape now in the historical script and Gaza script besides the terminal in this shape you can also have teardrop shape which I don't tend to do but I think you can draw the push stem first sorry let me fix the angle

56:41 I don't really draw that but okay maybe I'm incorrect sorry it's just something that I don't tend to do which is really bad but I can show you an actor example oh yeah that's the the idea okay so honestly I don't know how you the sequence to draw it I think you curve like that but you see I make a very ugly curve here but you have seen the teardrop shape right so if I draw it nicely I will control the push them going out fast then I'll come back and draw the shape okay I don't really like it so much I

57:31 don't know but that could be done yeah so it I've definitely you can definitely find these in old exemplar if I can show you from the Zen Aryan menu right let's zoom in here is a teardrop teardrop shape you see it's not really a terminal bore shape or is it okay very office and if you look closely in the old days there is a lot of imperfection as well yeah David Grimes oh I think I'm sure maybe he does that but I

58:18 I also took his classes in Hong Kong when he was here so I mean because he used a lot of the ball-shaped terminal and I use that a lot as well and I personally prefer it I think it's elegant because I like it to be matching with the the letter S the lowercase asked you know with I'd like to use lowercase s was this the boss a benign so I like the ball sure that's really good yeah but you get what I mean okay you're

59:03 not yes you're more Oh Pete I think write your motto pea but you're you're very talented in many things all right now more tips more tips oh I need to end the thing now because I have 40 seconds but I'll come back I'll come back okay sorry I cuz I want to save this so more people can see it and I'll return them please come back and join me thank you