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0:00 foreign. Welcome everyone. Good morning and welcome to guruam lesson two of mali. We spoke about guruam on our last class and before that in the previous class we spoke up about the mind. We spoke about who is god and all these things. So who is the guru? I
0:47 am the way. Who is saying that? I am the way. Who's saying that? Where am I reading it from? This is what is saying I am the way. Now you can't do it will make everything you read so far will make different sense you will not think about some person outside of the vom you'll be thinking
1:34 about the truth of what that is saying hence I am that me it'll be like this it'll be twisting and brain teasing I mean what I'm learning right now I I couldn't even speak Yesterday it went flat. It's just outside of it's beyond it's nothing. It's beyond nothing. What are the two forms of education? What is paravidya? >> Paravidya is knowledge of the eternal. Aparavidya is knowledge of things which are not uh eternal. >> What is karmakanda and yanakandanda? Vic knowledge. Karmic knowledge. How are the how did the vedas come to us? There are
2:19 three fa there are three ways that the Vedas came to us. What are the three ways? Is he literally means sound melody where the sound of Veda is melodious right? So the sound of melodious so that is the knowledge that came through sound the melody of sound should be. So the rishies heard Brahma speak and they wrote. So there are three ways that the scriptures say first step is to listen also. So these words have multiple meanings. So shraan also means listening also means having faith and trust in what you're actually listening to. If
3:06 you don't believe and should not believe in that verse what it was said. We as a community we as culture have something against Christianity. So I don't accept the way this is written. So she's heard something but her doubt in her mind is questioning it. So in Manam she's bringing it up and saying hey I have a doubt here. So when the doubt is cleared the doubt got cleared for her. So now she will go and contemplate is to contemplate. This is the way this is the way to successfully effectively and efficiently study the vir. Have faith in the knowledge. Listen to the knowledge. Memorize the knowledge. Run it in your
3:52 memory. Memorizing is not literally just soaking like chewing it and swallowing from A to Z but actually understanding and that understanding is what is sitting in the memory not word to word. The servant has gone to temples many many many temples and I ask what is that? He just said they don't know. And then there is Brahman. So Brahman means the one who realized the great one who left soul. It's God. One who realized God is a Brahman. But they have not understood God because they did not understand the clear meaning of what the verses are saying. In two lessons in two classes you have more knowledge than most people who are in who are reciting the Vas. Okay. So how can you become
4:39 that is by these three steps it is important to know 24/7 this should be running in your mind have listen to the vedas think about them have faith in the words if you don't if you have a doubt man when you when you're thinking about them and you're thinking about the main being contemplate ask questions clear your doubts until there is no doubts then get the full nectar of the verse. Just one verse. In one verse you can understand liberation completely A to Z. Two years ago last year I did not believe this myself but now I'm saying in any one pick any one verse and you can understand the the pathway to
5:24 liberation A to Z in one verse if you understand the depth and the clarity of the meaning to the T. Like I said there are so many dimensions to each verse. When you start seeing all the dimensions and sit and contemplate, you'll get deeper and deeper and more and more meanings to it. Somehow the vam is already guru is already showing you contemplation is happening in each of your minds in some way or form. But follow this pattern. It'll become so much more easier. What is guru lakanam? Attributes of a guru. >> One who reigns as the sole sovereign everywhere. >> What does that mean? Guru is someone who is always there. He's he's permanent. Which means he cannot be born. He cannot die. He cannot be sick.
6:11 He cannot be absent. He's the soul sovereign. He's he's always the emblem. He's always the logo. He's always Nitium. >> One who is born on the paper womb possessing a sacred body. >> Okay. Who's that? Va that's sacred body of the is it easy to say like is it acceptable is this this is I mean this is coming from the Va is this acceptable to you there's no questions or doubts here right there's no mania you all you guys agree with this >> okay before that they were writing in tablets and all those type of things in other parts of the world and they were scribbling in walls
6:57 Kunalan may have seen uh wear them carved on what ancient Tamil Tamil is like it's not it's called it's from a a language called Tamil Tamil was before Tamil so now you got the answer so you contemplate this one ask questions okay what's the third one >> one who is beyond the Five elements. >> H who can be beyond the five elements? >> Certainly not of this planet or of this universe because everything in this universe is created out of this five elements. Then you'll have this question about
7:45 then you'll have this question about what about paper book is out of the five elements. So a book is also not the guru. It's the knowledge in the book. It's the knowledge in the veum is the one who is unchanging yesterday, today, forever. Who is indestructible. So one who does not have birth and death. We spoke about this in the beginning. One who is both night and day. One who is both night and day. What does that mean? The truth is night and day. Whether you read it in the night, whether you read it in the day, in the physical sense, the truth will always be the same. At night, it will not be something else. In day it will not be something else. We used to have physain
8:36 way according to the way they we used to be. The truth will also fluctuate. I'm sure all of you have had some sort of experience with model. But uh van as the guru does not change. The truth is always the same. Both the night and the day are it comes from sorry it comes from it. One without breath in the nostrils. One without breath in the nostrils is someone who's not breathing. One free from disease aging and death. Again this comes to no birth no death which means none of the none of the
9:21 stuff that's happening in between affects this wisdom affects this knowledge one beyond hunger curse and sleep this guru will not say I'm hungry come back this guru will not say I'm thirsty give me water and do parata for me this guru will not say I'm sleeping right now uh talk to me in the morning this guru is always available 2:00 in the morning if you can't sleep you're awake and you are contemplating something and you need some clarity Open a scripture and look start reading it and you will get married. The more you are in sync in alignment with the Vedam the more it will start conversing with you. Right now we only have 20 Vas in few more months you'll have more Vedas and and at certain point you will be in a place where you can start
10:06 reading your own. You can read your own. Once you get that go you can start reading and understanding and interpreting the radars. on which you're able to see fact seeing things in multiple dimensions just in these there is so many different dimensions so I've given you two dimensions last class I said something else the question is something out of out of this which is not here in this eight points think about what makes a guru a mortal guru and a immortal guru different so So there is something that the mortal guru will carry in this in this physical life and there is that the immortal guru will not have in this physical life.
10:54 Who is a guru? Who's a mortal guru? Who's an immortal guru? Mortal guru has a favorite student and immortal guru any seeker is the same. Ah nice. A mortal guru has physical limitations. So a mortal guru is only mortal because of karma. An immortal guru does not have kmas. That's all. >> Three obstacles that we' face. There are three obstacles. Just like there are three ways to learn this knowledge. There are three obstacles that each one of us will face through this knowledge. It pretty much will start from now onwards or I've already started for some of us. Adi adiatika. Write this down.
11:41 Adu devika is obstacles through natural disaster. thunderstorm, rain, earthquake, tsunami, some calamities happening, comet coming and crashing, eclipse all these things are are the daily and because of those natural disasters if the electricity is gone, Wi-Fi modem is not busted, um your device is blown up, that is all because of that natural disaster are the day is dika are creating the destruction for the planet and that is destructing our learning our learning of vanta adi bhautika adi bhautika is distraction
12:26 from anyone or anything you're sitting and learning vanta suddenly your mom comes and says hey why haven't you done the laundry go to the shops and get this and it has to be done then and there distractions from external in your environment We turn up for class. We're sitting absolute straight full yoga padmasana looks like a perfect yogi and then we fall asleep. We fall asleep. External distraction. It is internal and external distraction. One is we are so exhausted that we didn't all lot time energy and space in our mind in our being that we are we are exhausted that
13:11 we fall asleep in Va class. Veda class will make you sleepy because the knowledge is too heavy and it's too beautiful to listen as well. So you'll probably want to sleep a little bit. Uh Veda facilitators will allow that space to have a rest um so that they can reset. That's why we keep our class so short. My classes go for 14 hours a day for 14 days in a row and even at night awake revising doing malanam. So the reason for this is the modern modern day human cannot hold that amount of concentration. They're unable to focus that long for that long. So we try to this veda the way we are taking Veda is for the modern times and I'll explain
13:58 this in the religion part of our conversation today. Okay. The third one is you no questions on adi bhautika right? Adi bhautika is any external disturbance. Sister comes and yells or your boss calls in the middle of your vea class. Anything anyone is calling is adihika. Feeling hungry thirsty toilet break all that is adihika. These are all obstacles to your learning. Adiyatika atiatika is wow these lessons are so amazing. Thank you. But I know this already. I already know this knowledge. Who's saying that? I already know this. Ego says that. So the ego puts an obstacle of its own learning.
14:44 Just because it thinks that it knows the Vedas, it already knows what they're trying to teach. Only the first one is natural. The second one is is your environment. To a certain extent you can you can control it if you prepare for it. For example, we have a work meeting very important client call. What do we do? We prepare our notes days in advance. We prepare the schedule time everything is prepared. We make sure that we are in good internet connection. We make sure that we there is a uh what do you call it? Um generator or like a backup electricity so that that that client call is taken care of. We make sure we are in a soundproof room or a nice or a private space that we are not getting distracted. We will not have
15:31 that whole that meeting in a cafe where people are going to be walking in and serving us food or asking us questions. You see how adi baika can become can be taken care of when there is a preparation in the background. You do this when you know there is something called adi botika. So the manas already knows there's these three obstacles that's there. First one, it can't do anything. It's Dikas. It's DA's doing, you know, we can't do anything about it. That's that's purely karmic. If the das decide they're going to give you a hard time to get to this knowledge, then so be it. But when you know that natural disaster also can be overcome by persistence, patience and persistence. You don't give up the knowledge. You
16:16 keep trying. Bhagan is only saying buddy, there are three types of obstacles that you'll come across. The first one will be natural disaster. You try to find a way to overcome it. Second one is distraction by your around your surroundings. Plan properly overcome it. Third one is your own distraction. You yourself will be a distraction to yourself because of your ego. I know this or I have this doubt but the doubt has been asked because there's nidity has not been done. Manam has not been done. Is asking a doubt for the sake of asking doubt. So what is happening? You're taking away that vital time, that vital energy of the vom that is flowing through down to us. You're distracting the knowledge by throwing something that
17:02 is not essential to receive the knowledge. This is all that this is all the ways that will happen. Revise this, get used to it and know about it. That will give you that extra peripheral understanding of knowing your surrounding and inside and outside so that you're always present and preparing for that flow of knowledge to come through. That's when you become a wise person. A wise person is a sadhu. A wise person is a careful person. A careful person is an alert person. See how all the knowledge is lining up. We spoke about monk who's a monk who's a sadhu. Right? So all of this is lining up. Now you now the Vedam is giving you three obstacles to remember. So you're always keeping this in your checklist. Same way the Vedam is giving you three steps to how to study this knowledge, how to learn this knowledge because it's not
17:48 your regular physics, math, science, English. It's so it's it's controversial and also complex knowledge. In the modern times it's controversial knowledge. Hence there will be questions. Hence there will be doubts. Okay. Then we're going to talk a little bit about start with likes and dislikes. What are likes? I like this person. Da is I don't like this person or I like this food. I don't like this food. This is a common thing in our conditional society where we have to be choosing likes and dislikes. For
18:35 example, take when it comes to voting. I like this this politician, this leader. I don't like this politician, this leader. We might not know anything about this person absolutely zero. But we have to create formulate this raha and we're separating the society. We're separating the communities by having this raad disha in our mind. Veda says abstain from raadsha. So think about this for a moment and see what are the likes and dislikes that stands up for you and try to be in that equinimous state of being. Another example, a common one for food. I love mutton biryani. I hate I dislike
19:25 veg biryani. I love mutton biryani. I dislike veg biryani. Okay. A beggar who's starving, a renunciate who's walking down the streets of Kashi searching for knowledge for days, weeks, months, years, has not eaten for many days, many moons. No one has put anything in his begging bowl. Would he have would he or she have raa towards mutton biryani or duesa towards vegetable biryani? What would be the state of this being?
20:12 They would eat whatever is in their bowl. So in time, I'm not saying don't eat your favorite foods tomorrow, but in time slowly align yourself to assimilating yourself to avoid the lust of something and the hate of something because if the raad desa level is high in the old phrase that goes, I'll kill to have this woman, I'll kill to have this gold, I'll kill to have this treasure, so much raga that they're willing to commit a murder to have that wealth that they perceived in their mind false wealth and the dislike is so much they can't bear that person existing in this planet no chance for him to exist in this planet so the level of raad duesha when
20:59 it is high it becomes brutal hence vea populates the seeds of wisdom earlier on these are lessons that people the kids would be learning in gurugulums when they are about four or five years old so that the raat is not in its first of all they try to balance the raadsha out and and not allow it to go to the extremities and learn about when raada goes to extremities it becomes that elimination hence that's what we're learning we're learning complicated complex knowledge now someone who's a child murderer right who is actually disliking this the ego is disliking so what is the difference between you and the child murderer it's the ego that is doing the child murder murdering and whatever is
21:45 going on in that being that that ja who is unaware it's a jva and soaked in a soup of ignorance and then here there is another jva who's understanding something but still has that dsha towards someone who's doing so you are attaching yourself to that your identity you are attaching your identity to that person unknowingly Veda says it is not our it's not our job to go and judge anyone. Veda says leave that to me. It's my job to make sure who gets how much karma and when they will get to come and learn
22:30 about themselves. Say it's not it's not your job to do that. So that is the truth about life. If we are here, there is nothing perfect about us. We are all here because of our karmic baggage. No one is perfect. If we are perfect, we wouldn't be here. We would have would have already understood what Vedanta is saying and we would have already transcended from here. Here is our training ground. We're learning. We're learning about oursel. So this having this dasha is only adding more to your karmic baggage in short. Okay? Because the yoga that we are in, the generation that we grew up in has taught us very early on to like or dislike things to separate good and bad. The swan does not see the water as good and the milk as bad or the other way around. It just
23:17 separates what it wants without without having this hate or over excitement about what it's doing. It's just doing what it's doing. Okay. The very first thing we learned is aparraidya and paravidya. So in apraidya everything is anitya. It's not true. In appraidya it's false knowledge. So the false knowledge has taught us how to judge, how to compare, how to like, how to dislike. And we've soaked in this. Veda is saying don't do that. It's that's not by doing that you're creating more and more kmas. You're going away from me. This knowledge will contradict
24:03 everything every other knowledge that you got before. It is contradicting because it's the truth. So then comes the choice whether we choose to go with the truth and see how best we can embody the truth in our environment. move and remove things that is not relevant that we can simplify minimize and align our life and goals towards the truth to know the knowledge about ourself, who we are, who am I. If you know once you know who you are once you even taste a little bit of knowledge about who you are then all of these things about what it matters to
24:49 the external world that noise will stop because none of them know who they are. They're all running around on identity. Does that make sense? Okay. Wow. Didn't realize had so much power. But see how much power it has. Likes and dislikes have the same amount. So both like also has the same amount of power as dislike. Like is attachment. We're constantly attaching ourselves. The ego is attached to all these matri living in a beautiful big palace having a beach. >> A beggar who's starving. >> Anything that he will get he will eat just to sustain his body. So it is not coming out of raga or dasha. It is
25:34 coming of need. Necessity basic necessity. For example, we are all here in Veda class which is a complex knowledge because there is some sort of a need of the hour in our life to learn a bit more about what we understand about everything that we know. Somewhere there is a doubt that I don't know everything properly. Something is missing. I need to learn something about myself. When I learn about myself, I need to learn I will learn about how to interpret the other. Hence the king in Vakas. If we were that beggar, our immediate need at that time is to nourish this body because it's hungry. This physical body that the yogi knows that's not him but needs to be nourished to continue his journey. So would it be
26:21 out of like or dislike or would it be out of need and necessity? Why moka? So until that knowledge has come through and until you have attained the pathway into to moka you need this physical body. So be careful when you're driving. Be careful when you're drive uh driving traveling. Be careful of the foods that you eat. Don't get diabetes and heart heart disease and die in pain. Save that physical body because you needed to learn vanta so that you know who you are and how to achieve the ultimate liberation. So what is interesting and what comes to thought is experience it. Starve yourself don't have to go to
27:07 vanas or anywhere wherever you are starve yourself. Experience hunger and then you find out whether it's like or dislike. Whether it's like towards food or is it dislike towards hunger that you're choosing to eat. It's a good way to find out, right? Have you have you guys experienced this is this can happen and has happened in it happens quite a lot in India and you give curd rice parcel to a beggar and they're like what is this? They'll ask what is this? Hey, what is this? And then you'll be like uh with great respect because you're doing some puja and you want to give you know dana or food all these ceremonial karmakanda stuff. And then you say curd rice warm fresh
27:54 amazing curd rice from the best kurd rice shop in the whole town like I want biryani that is raadesha raaga towards biryani da towards curd rice he's sitting there dressed positioned himself as a person who does not have anything and he start like hungry he's positioned himself there physically in the appearance the location and everything else. So adi is u this distraction and adiyatika is the ego of choosing distraction of hunger is also adipa
28:40 I'm hungry so I'm unable to have the energy to talk in this class is adhibi I should have prepared so bhagan says vea says this is another obstacle that will come so you be prepared is warning us. He's ask he's giving us the tools to be careful. Okay, quickly we'll run through moa mothers. One sour karma loa moa mother matsaria. Six things is written in vanta in scriptures but in the ancient scriptures it comes down to three. Somehow the three became six. The six became eight over time. So I'll give you three but I'll explain the I'll I'll describe the six first. Kama desire
29:28 >> uh croa anger. Okay, these are um Sanskrit words. Tamil words. Did you guys know Tamil and Sanskrit are of the same origin? So all the ancient siddhars knew Sanskrit knew Sanskrit. I mean until the recent Ram Raman Maharishi from Mallay he's written I have a book of his handwritten Sanskrit limited edition. How did Ramon and Maharishi never left South India then Sanskrit mean Sanskrit was here? Never left South India. Okay. Crona is anger. Loba is lust. Moa is mo love. Moa is love. Love to love something
30:14 deeply. >> Indulgence. I love chocolate. I love chocolate. Mother you can call confusion intoxication like one mother state of mother illusion state you can actually write confusion it's an intoxicated state what do you feel when you're intoxicated everything feels >> unclear w forget the name address to your house that type of thing and then what's area comparison it's this is how we were taught in
31:00 school okay comparison so these eight characteristics these eight attributes will also be an obstacle an hindrance to our learning not only for our learning it's a hindrance to our life as well it's eight things these are the villains who are learning of The lessons of liberation, lessons of vitamin. This is also the reason why we keep coming back. The karmic baggage that we have is because of these eight. They play a key vital role for our return ticket here over and over. In a class of 40, how many first ranks can you have? And the rest, all 40 have been
31:47 pushed to get first rank. Is that even possible? That's what our society is like pushed us into thinking that we need to be competing all of the time. Oh, my neighbor's got uh a flash car. I need to get a flash car better than his car. He's got a Mercedes. I'm going to get an Audi or Microsoft get a Ferrari. He's got a three floor house. I'll build one more floor. He's got a job in it. I'm going to be the CEO of the company. This is happening in the world. Everyone should get full marks like no one is competing that they have to be better. This is supposed to be how a classroom is supposed to. This is how the gurl system was. There was no age also as early as five but a 15 year old also will be sitting in the same class and learning the same lesson.
32:35 A 50 year also can sit in a 5-year provided there is no he's not playing being an obstacle with this with his ego. So there is no age there is no there is no exams to pass there is no um marking there is no evaluation the evaluation is how much you understand the truth that is actually that is the way we were educated before the schooling systems came into the world from the industrial revolution >> why do we need a human birth to learn the Va okay you have to talk about how human beings came about what happened and all those things which is an interesting part to know where we came from, what happened, why are we here and
33:22 is this a natural calamity. No, this is not a natural calamity. Um, okay, let's start this. In the beginning, we were all with Ishwara. We were all with grace. We were all with our father. We were happy. We were content. We were free. And we didn't have any of these things that we're discussing. No disha, no raa, no hatred, no comparison. We were all in unity, in peace, in absolute bliss and happiness and profoundity with the father in his care. The creator had 5% created 5% of used 5% of his creativity and manifested
34:07 a universe, a multiverse. Entire multiverse is only 5%. And then came Narada. Narada is a character who is uh there in the hassas and told us we were playing we were happily playing eating whatever we wanted to eat doing whatever we want to do and in complete protection and care. Narada came and said hey did you know that your father has created a whole world there it's called earth the fruits there taste so yummy there is this fruit called mango never tried this thing anything like
34:54 this it's impossible there's nothing like that here it's all green and the trees are green the mountains are beautiful the waterfalls the river there is seas you can go swim it is Nothing that you have experienced today is beyond amazing. What happened in our minds? Now we are all we are five six of us are hanging out with big daddy and chilling out in his lap you know like living like kings and queens literally slaying that saying we were living like kings and queens and here we coming and begging and borrowing and stealing and killing running behind illusions.
35:40 Then we thought about this. We did the same thing. We listened to Narada. We did manam everything is great here but what he said is better than great you know like I want to eat that tasty juicy mango I want to run around the field I want to go for a swim in the beach when I get this thing called sun I don't even know what that feels like all these things raa started happen we did for 5 minutes 5 seconds more so ah okay I made up my mind go tell daddy daddy saying that I want to go to this place you such a selfish person you have all these places and you don't want us to let us go there and find no enjoy all these things and says Bhagwan saysma says
36:27 son children please don't go there the whole thing is an illusion you will get stuck there if you get stuck there it will be very hard for you to come back please don't go the whole place is a misery it is only suffering 1,000% set of suffering don't go please don't go then what happened ego got born ego was born that's it which child listens to their parents no children listens to their parent when they say please don't do this that's exactly what the child wants to do so we also did the same thing ego got born there say ah don't tell me I know what to do I know what to do packed up the
37:14 came off came off to planet Zindabad. That's it. We came here for mango for the beach. It for this fruit it for that fruit it for women it for men ita for mountain ita for everything raa lots and lots and lots and lots of likes. Now remember the first thing that we liked created a life for us to come here. The very first thing that we liked, we wanted to come here for a trip to gallivant around and then go back to father. That's what we thought we going to do. That's also what we said. I'll go
37:59 and come back. Don't tell me how I should be. I know what to do. I know what to do. So if Armatma being father of us all being such a kind being such a pure being such a compassionate being said okay if you want to go and enjoy this you go okay you said you want to come back you said you'll come back so what what can I do now you go and enjoy and come back but come back okay this is so he we come one gave the first life he didn't stop with one we only the Only desire we had was to come here and have a look around and go back. But what happened? We came here and we got stuck because one itcha became a trillion like that. It became trillion.
38:45 We've been stuck here unable to go back home because we constantly creating dislike like dislike like. So the karma baggage is increasing. Karma is nothing but action. Action of like is also an action. Action of dislike is also an action. in the thought. The karma didn't happen after we came here. Karma happened in the thought while we were still home comfortable. So Veda says Baba with 5% only you messed yourself up so much. What if father would have created 30% or 50%. How messed up would you be? How many trillions of anand jmas would you take?
39:30 So this is heavy heavy information. Later on after class later on in the day we'll lie back relax look at the sky and contemplate how all this would have happened. How did I come? Because the truth is you. You are the truth. You are the proof of your truth. You know what your raadeshas are. Each one of us know what our likes and dislikes are. Which one of us know what our desires are. Which one of us know our kas and podas and moas loas and madas and matsaras? It's all here. We're learning. It's outside but it's all here. That's why we're learning. These are the reasons why we got stuck. We didn't have any of this before. We were all one. That's how it was. We got distracted by an illusion.
40:19 We'll talk more about narada later on in lesson seven, eight when we are a little bit more advanced with understanding knowledge. We'll talk about Narada not in seven 8 we'll talk I'll plant the seed in seven we'll see but remind me if we if I forget about Narada because there will be that question who is Narada why did he do this to us cheat he tricked us but Narada also is good guy bad guy he's playing good cop bad cop okay so let's get get back to lesson foreign.
41:13 Right. for super you want to read the English part you can read from Ishwara ishwara the lord created us and also gave us the vea >> stop there we'll We'll go line by line and I'll quickly uh like decipher it. Okay. So the lord created us. We just
41:59 spoke about the story of where we came from, right? So the father created us and also he gave us the veda. Do you know when the veda was born? Somebody asked me this question. So when we left home to come here, he realized that ah these kids are going they will not know how to come back because he was sure that we will get lost. So he drew in communication in the way he he drew the way to come back home. He wrote the way to come back home. That's how the Veda came about. That's how the Veda was born. So the Lord created us, gave us the gave us the satisfaction of fulfilling our but also gave us the Veda to come back home. Next slide.
42:45 >> In that vea he has laid out the direct path. We are meant to walk. >> That's that's clarifying the previous line. Right. Next one. >> But turning away from it, we wander about like lost and noisy street peddlers. >> Now we look around. Look around where we are. We are walking around like noisy peddlers in a fish market without knowing which way to go. That's the state we are in before Veda. The next one, >> the purpose of reading was written in the Vic leaf is to seek the Lord.
43:33 And >> the next one, >> not merely to feed the stomach. So it's beautifully written in Tamil. The way it says is which means the the core meaning the core purpose of the Vaam is to see the father is to get back to the father not to be here and get fat. So why are not merely merely to feed the stomach here. They're not referring just to the physical stomach. They're referring to the ego which is the one that is constantly creating more and more ragas and dishas.
44:22 More and more itas that is the stomach they're referring to. Does it make sense? Because we've already seen that we are not the body. So if it's we not the body it's not this physical stomach we're talking about. It is the ego mind that is creating this hunger, this greed for more and more and more. So we're busy doing more and more. We're being in greed that we are unable to look at the truth to know who we are. So we can get back to home where we came from. This is the sacredance that is of the divine form of the lord. Any doubts on this? So it can also mean that it's not to be taught to feed the stomach. It's the like what people read the vedas. It's
45:08 not to get money to feed the should not teach Vanta for money. >> Yes. >> Maha papa. >> Yeah. So people u read Vedas they take the scripture they'll read the book they'll get half understanding of it or not even like 5% understanding of it and then they will say that they they'll teach the vanta and they'll charge whatever 5,000 rupees $1,000 whatever they charge maha papa we are all children of our father how can we take our dad's own our father's one father right his own notes and sell it to our brothers and sisters. Which is who's doing that? The ego mind
45:53 is doing that. Why is it doing it? Because of raa for money. Why does it need money? Because it's more attached to the world here. This maya here in the past how it used to happen is there'll be a a monk a sadhu someone who's walked the path and understood in the first way this comes 1.1 anyone remembers. Though says that there is no greater truth than myself. I am the dharma. I am the truth.
46:42 The one who one who uh refrains from arguments and learns me will find his home to me. So the one the the the mad is the one the one is the sadhu the one is the careful person the wise person who's walked this path all they have to do is share the knowledge of the Veda whatever they need food shelter clothing whatever they need the Vedanta will provide now this is very challenging to understand in the modern day's life but my teacher is downstairs the one I'm I'm learning from is downstairs. No home, no clothes, no food, no money.
47:30 He's happy. So we support him. Not once he's asked for money of any sort. No fees, no donation. And I asked him, Anna, you're going through such a hard time. And he sees everything as the same. When you're going down this path, you're purifying yourself, right? So the impure ones will find you as a threat. So they will try to instill power onto you like damage to you. For him it's the same. So I asked him see we have a community of six people who are learning with us and we can all afford can we charge a fee? He said no please don't charge fee. Mahaba there was a time that donation was okay but the word donation has become manipulated into something else.
48:16 explanation has got its own dark side in the modern day. So then how can one receive? So then he explained the story. In the ancient times the sadhu used to sit there and teach that's how they do it. The students would come they'll bring bag of rice they'll bring somebody will bring vegetables. Someone will bring u lentils or something whatever they have. If the farmer will bring farm farming stuff uh someone who's got merchant of clothing will bring some clothes. Otherwise the sad will only wear rags. Whatever he's got for him rag and clothes is the same thing. He will usually live outside of the village in under a tree or a cave or they would make a little or he would build a little shack with the leaves and st stems and stumps and stuff like that
49:01 that he finds in the forest just to take shelter from the sun and the rain and they and he'll teach later on that became the translate to dakshina because modern people like when I say modern people about 100 200 years ago they didn't have the time to go and buy rice and lentils and vegetables because people stopped doing that people started to buy. So they would give cash that the sadhu will go and buy themselves. So that's how the the idea of dakshina came in to get cash so that they can look after their own expenses. This one the sadu downstairs he doesn't take that also. He doesn't ask. So the way to go in this path if one has to go in this path is by not asking not taking but whatever is given they will
49:46 take big shot goal is there whatever you put whether you put one rupee or 1 100,000 rupees it doesn't matter it's the same for how do you define this think about this this is outside of donation outside of duina outside of fees how do you define this this debt will not incur karma or paparma. He says when a person takes whatever is given because he's accepting tone clothes, he's accepting all the hardships, he's accepting no money, he's accepting money. The no money is also the same. So whatever is given is Shiva's gift to you. So he can't ask. So now that I know
50:32 that, now that I become aware, I make sure that I keep an envelope. I put some money and I put it under this pillow or keep it inside this bag and I walk away. No name, no nothing, no amount, nothing. Whatever I feel I can, I put and give time to time because he he came to the streets because he didn't have money. And the knowledge that he's imparting thousands of years one has to wait to get that knowledge. So this is a sadhu. So when a sadhu is there we have to think like how we used to be in the olden days where we have to look after the sadhu. Did that answer the question about duction? Here the stomach is not the physical stomach. In the beginning it'll one lesson one we are talking about the
51:18 stomach is not the physical stomach. Here the stomach is the ego. Remember you're not your body. The ego is the one who wants to eat this and that. It wants to have a choice. Next meal you're having, you think about how much you want to choose about what you're eating and how much you're willing to eat whatever has been given. Next six meals or six days or six weeks, you just watch yourself. Observe the divine secret message meant for your salvation, meant for your protection is being revealed here in words through the
52:15 receive it through your receive it through your ears. Reflect upon it. Think about it and speak about it to others. It's many many more times more exhale exalted and supreme than the very sight of ostricity itself. It's saying it's it's much more higher than meditation and dana and all the things that you're doing. much much higher than ostricity itself which means sharing the knowledge of truth to another after you heard it contemplated it understood it and sharing that knowledge it's much more
53:01 higher than meditation itself so that's from the Bible that one is from the Bible um this one Beautiful. In the presence of the divine guru who embodies the voice of the Vedas, your soul takes on a new body. What do you understand? When you come across the lessons through the guru from the Vedam which is the guru here is referring to the vedum your soul takes on a new body. What new body? We said that we are not this body. Then what body is it talking about? It's taking on a body of knowledge and wisdom.
53:48 Your soul child called the sacred flame grows in radiance. Your soul child, your soul called the sacred flame grows in radiance and attains spiritual youth. From the power of their dashion, it gains the strength not to compare or judge anyone. So only one whose soul matures and stands align to their higher goal. Divine blooms time dons.
54:34 What the last one, last paragraph is saying is the one who understands not to judge anyone, not to compare anyone. Mother Masaria and understands the spiritual knowledge will always stay young and radiant and grow and glow will be in the sacred flame of the vanta in a new knowledge body not in the physical body will have the divine kuberas blooming time will have the divine kuberas will always be in the riches of the lord they will not have any trouble that they'll be bothered That is that state where you're not affected by raa or by any bad or good karma. Okay. 2.4.
55:33 The mind that is always fixed in falsehood. Why is it fixed in falsehood? Everything in this jagat in this realm that we are living in we took birth in is maya is an illusion. What is illusion is false. An illusion is something that does not exist but we think that it exists. When we watch a movie we think that we are the character who's playing the movie and we get affected by the story that's happening in the movie by the falsehood of the movie. I slowly and gently shown the dawn of true knowledge. So the truth of the truth of the knowledge will show you the light the way out will show you the light to get
56:21 out slowly slowly because it's not something that can happen like this. Right now this knowledge is going in you're seeing it you're understanding it you're hearing it in a few hours you will not remember this. So the more we do mana slowly slowly gently the light the truth of the knowledge will show you the way out of that falsehood with inner realizations. This is a very beautiful one with inner realization established both inner and
57:06 outer life flourish. Inner and outer life here is the way your thoughts assimulate, your words assimilate, your actions assimilate. It's the inside. The outside world is how others thoughts are not impacting you. Others actions and words are not impacting you. So you're coming to that realization that is this is all mity. This is all falsehood. This is all an illusion. making them attain salvation turning ordinary people into true humans. So the Vedas would turn a regular being means means we are in hell. Hell is this is hell. We are hell. We think there is a place called hell. The experience that we feel in that place called hell is not in another
57:52 place. It is actually here in this body in this being. So the knowledge will turn you from naraka from hell to an ordinary person who's able to think clearly who's understanding the truth and then from that that ordinary person you're turning into a true human a true human is a da and transforming those humans into a divine being. So here you'll learn later on who is maken. Man means human. Who is a human? You'll learn later on. We are not humans. We are irrigal. Two-legged animal is what we are.
58:39 What we want to be is a human. What we were before coming here was a human. Once we landed here, we forgot who we are. We became a two-legged animal. That alone is true education endowed with complete li liberation. So this alone is the true education and knowledge in this life. Nothing else is as true as this. Everything else is false education written by the wealth of wealth is the wealth of
59:25 listening. The wealth of listening that wealth is the foremost among all forms of wealth. There is no wealth greater than the wealth of listening. What is the what is the use of learning if the one with sharp intellect does not bow at the holy feet of the wise? Who is wise here? The Vam is the only wise one here because that is the holder of all knowledge and wisdom. Not at the feet of a mortal guru. The Ved is the guru there. So see how they're going, you're getting a deeper version of who the guru
1:00:10 is next. So it doesn't matter how much you learn, none of those none of that knowledge will give you the knowledge of wisdom apart from the vea. That's what that that sloka is saying. Nanim this is another one that we wanted clarity. I am the way, the truth and the life. The Veda is the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. Now do you understand with
1:00:55 the story? We left father, we came here. He sent the Veda to where we are so that we can go back to him. So the Veda is referring itself as I because his father's language is referring to himself. I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. I am the Lord. There is no savior apart from me. behold until the end of the world I am with you all these these days he said
1:01:43 the end of the world is when the world resets every now and then there'll be a reset like the ice age the world reset so he will be there till the end of the world. I am with you all the days, said he. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Now, Jesus Christ is not here. He's not, he was not there yesterday, nor is he here today, nor is he there forever because he died couple of thousand a couple of thousand years ago. What the Veda is saying, Jesus Christ here is the Vam. The Bible is the Christ. It is the same yesterday. It is the same today and it is the same forever. The Bible has not
1:02:28 changed. The message that from the Bible has not changed. People have changed. The way they have interpreted has changed. The way they take the Bible and interpret it the way they need to interpret it has changed. But the Bible, the truth of the Bible has not changed. Hence it requires a wise person, a careful person and an alert person to read the Bible or any Vic text because it has been tempered and hampered so many times that it takes a wise alert and a careful person to decipher the truth about what is written. And that's what we're doing here. We're learning to see the truth of what is written in the Vam. Bible is a Vam. Next one.
1:03:20 Oh formless one who is not defiled by the slander of the falsehearted. When somebody says say you are not the Lord you're you're not true you're not real. It doesn't defile the falsehearted. This formless one does not defile the falsehearted. Oh form that abides in the hearts of the truthful. The form here that it's referring to is the Veda. Oh divine grace that redeems and threads the inner soul like nectar. It's from verse. Oh divine grace that redeems the threads
1:04:05 the inner soul like nectar. Oh divine grace that redeems the threads the inner soul like nectar. That inner soul is us the the grace that redeems us is is I ishwhara's words through the vedum. Oh guru who burns away darkness and blossoms within the heart. Oh Veda who burns away the darkness. Darkness is the not knowing. The ignorance is the darkness here. Not being in the darkness of misery but being in the darkness of ignorance. Oh teacher, oh guru, oh vanta, oh vedum, the one who burns away that ignorance and blossoms within the heart with knowledge. Heart here is not referring to the
1:04:52 physical heart. It's referring to the soul. Next one. For the worldly minded to perceive these sacred words, those who twist and distort the message with vain words will perish. Straightforward. The ones who are twisted and take the words of the Vanta and say it in the way to suit themselves to make money and get fat and become what do you call it? Grow their status and uh and their power. They will perish.
1:05:42 Only the one only those who discern with purified sense and right understanding will truly live. Here it says to Buddha to Buddham means ghost. Pancha Buddha spirits the five great spirits right to here the translation is not correctly given here the ultimate Buddha is five great elements the ultimate the greatest Buddha is the ishara is so the one who identifies the one who understands, one who is able to identify
1:06:29 that Buddha, that ultimate Buddha, ultimate spirit. I should be using the word spirit. The Buddha is the supreme spirit. The ultimate spirit. The one who recognizes, the one who realizes the ultimate spirit, they will be living in a realized way with purified senses and the right understanding. Guru KBA those who hold these words in their heart. Those who hold these words in their heart beholds the guru has access to the knowledge of the guru. So one can read the vedanta but will not understand the vanta. One can hold the veda but not know anything about the veda because it requires the supreme spirits the the primordial spirit the father spirit to
1:07:14 give us and show us the way through the guru. So they will see the guru through the guru they will um through the guru they will recognize the one true great spirit. Next one. From the Quran, from the Quran, those who firmly hold on to the Veda and establish their prayer with steadfastness. Those who hold on to the Veda and recite the Veda is what they mean. Prayer here is to recite and understand
1:08:00 and stay present with it on a daily basis on a momentto moment basis. The more you are traveling with the Veda, the reward of such noble beings. So we are all noble beings because we are learning the knowledge of the Vam Vantum. Those who are learning the Vum, their time will not be wasted. We shall certainly not let go to waste. So the Vedam will not let go of your time to waste. H so those who are reciting their Vedas the VM will not let go to all those recite recitations not talking about time here will not let go of all those times that you recited all those times
1:08:46 you've heard all those times you've done manam shanamity the times you overcome the obstacle the vantam will not let it go to waste says the vanam is referring to referring to itself Next please. um to explain this weather I have to say a background story but I'll explain it briefly and we'll talk about okay swa is heaven to attain the heavenly realm those who study the vedas
1:09:33 and drink s rasam s rasam is nectar elixir elixir of immortality worship me indirectly Through this they are purified from the results of their sins and take birth in a meritous realm of Indra. Indra loca de loca is indraoka where they enjoy the divine pleasures. This is the sacred utterance of the divine form of the lord. Okay. What is loca? is a place that people think they go after they die here when they have done a lot of good deeds good deeds is giving donation and doing favor and all these things there's whole list of
1:10:19 bo good deeds that you can do in the karmakanda vanta where people can go to heaven it's written in Bible also it's who are here we are not interested log. We are not interested in Indra logo loving. The way people describe it, it is a very maturity place full of riches. All the things you need is there. There's no worry. It's live here. However, it is temporary. So, there is an account where there is a papa and parents. So when the papa is low and the puna is high and they've done those check boxes
1:11:04 of how to get to swalloga with the yagnas and mantras and yantras and mantras and they read the scriptures of karmakanda and figured out how to get to yoga later on when you're ready to read or I can even explain it when we get to like that part of discussion. Uh there's a story about Nachikas. They talk about his father wanting to grow to loca. >> Sorry. So Nachiketa's father wants to go to his entire he comes to a point in life where he's like 60 70 years old and he's like yeah I I need to get my way to loa because I've done some papas. I've done a lot of but I need to make sure I
1:11:49 need to go to swoga. So he does all his uh homes and stuff like that. donation all these things and there are mantras and mantras for all these things but when you go to circle loa if your papa is here and your papa's here once you're in circle it's like an ATM debit card all the luxuries you you experience and you use your debit will keep coming down pa thing will keep coming down. We call those things that you balance the one that you measure the puna measure will keep coming down and when it reaches to the papa or close to the papa you have
1:12:36 to get a ticket and come back to budoka this earth because only here you can get the knowledge to moka no knowledge of moka and indoca de loca loca all three the same so in this script In this verse it says the one who indirectly reciting the Veda who's indirectly using the karmakandanda veda to find a way to get to heaven because their desire is to get to Indoka not to get to dad not to get home very clearly it's written in this ve their desire their even the ita is not moa their is towards loca so father still
1:13:22 provides father still gives okay you want to go to circle this is the read. So indirectly they're reading the Vedas and they're going to and then they take birth again here in gulka. So that only here we have access to the Vanta through access to moka is only from here no other. If this is loca only has to take you to so the ve only is the ve that gives you falsehood false pretends to the will keep you in a temporary high place until your pun comes down. Look at what is papa shortly through to
1:14:09 attain heavenly well. Those who study the Vedas and drink the s of the essence of the nectar of the Vedas and worship me indirectly. worshiing e indirectly is worshiing for the riches of e but not ecending not the father but the riches of the father which is through this they are purified from the results of their sins and take birth in the mrious realm which is of Indra which is the place that I just described where they enjoy the divine pleasures this sacred they enjoy the divine pleasures they stopped it there what happens after is once their pa finished they come back into this realm here to get >> what is and what is good deeds there is
1:14:57 only one pa the only pun is to be in use and relation with the vanda with the ve the scriptures the truth everything else is papa our journey of coming to this realm this earth itself was action of papa ego took that position and came here. So everything else is considered as papa. Then the question arises how is it possible to live here without believing in papa. So say you reduce your papa to a 7030 percentage 30% papa and 70%. Follow the scriptures. Try to be as close as possible close proximity to the
1:15:42 scriptures. And of course there are things that will happen you know which is out of your control. So for those aid stuff you leave 30%. The rest you try to be as aligned as close to the scriptures close to the so that you are in puna. The one who reaches 90% of puna and still is able to function here like downstairs is a true sa right now we are on the other end of the quadrant we are about 10 or 20% puna and the rest is out. So move the scale slowly move the scale more towards puna
1:16:28 and less towards ma. In other words move your scale of deeds your thoughts the words your actions towards vant and reduce your interactions your transactions with the worldly stuff with the papa stuff of this world. The more transactions one have with the world the more papa one is creating. What is vegetarian and non summ is plants nasum is see the screen there says what is vegetarian and non-vegetarian nowhere it mentions food and all of us talked about food we spoke about plants we spoke about animals we spoke about neither this nor
1:17:13 that we spoke about this is better for being in puna So the translation of sib is vegetarian. Asai is non-vegetarian. But the purity in the word of siv and asum is not exactly vegetarian nonvearian because it it dilutes it a bit. It's not as pure. But that's the closest thing that we can look at. But with that we can understand the meaning. Once you understand the meaning then you'll not look at food the way we've been looking at food so far. So now with this thing now that the food part is taken out of vegetarian non-vegetarian what is vegetarian non-vegetarian anyone has the only thing that is cybum here the only thing that is vegetarian here is veum veam is the only thing that is vegetarian
1:18:00 because it speaks the truth pure it's clean everything else that we think we thick do this as nonvearian never said to eat meat and not eat meat never said to eat plant and not eat anything else if you want to know more about this please watch the podcast about food at that time I did not know this knowledge but the words has been spoken about vegetarianism and non-vegetarianism crystal clearly later on when I got this knowledge I was stoked to know that the Vedam is actually saying the truth and what was spoken then. So Asan
1:18:46 was already preparing this this Mamsa any questions contradicting and conflicting for some but it's okay just process it take it let it sit for a minute and then do man okay V says And you fools are going around separating the ones that I created. Plants were created by me. Animals were created by me. All the food that you that you are eating is created by me for you. I created all this for you. And you calling them vegetarian and nonvearian. And you forgotten me. Saying I'm the only thing that is sum here. Everything
1:19:32 else is says Vam. Okay. Now saying this in one of the first initial batches that I went to Vam class there were a lot of people lot of Brahmans in that class and they all came with edge because they had the recitation of the Vedas like impeccable. The way they say there was a flare everything was the kamas the apostrophes. Here we are butchering the Vedas the words but somehow we saying it but what is difference from there to here is we are understanding the true meaning of what the Veda is actually saying that is what Veda is not knowing how to recite 70 million verses without seeing in flare
1:20:17 so they were all vegetarians they were all Brahmans pure vegetarian the moment they knew that Veda says I am the only thing that's vegetarian everything else is non-vegetarian so live example just happened and a whole Brahman community went opposite way and lost their way. So be careful okay just because what what's what what is said in the Veda Sum is Vanta as everything else and it is not talking about food. It never said to eat this or that. Everything that is created here is for your is for you to sustain yourself until you can find your way back home. Enjoy everything but don't get stuck with this or that. Don't have raisha. Don't have loa don't get stuck with it. Don't get
1:21:04 attached to it is what is saying. What is dharma? The very first vea we spoke about this. What is dharma? Anyone remembers the first from 1.1 means dharma. Studying is dharma. Becoming the Ved is dharma embodying like living the Veda is dharma that is the only dharma. Everything apart from the veda is a dharma says ex very clearly in the veda. Many many many veantas are sorry many veams are saying
1:21:50 many vedam is one many different scriptures Bible is saying that is saying that Bhagat Gita is saying that so many places they've written this left right center is written everywhere the only dharma is veum now the question will come for most of us then what is ara kama moka if veum is dharma I want you to sit and think what is ara kama mosha homework. Okay, here is something that someone never told you. What is the second nu? The second nav is the veum. Why is the second nu the veum? The first nav is seen as the mammas pindam which is the body the tongue of the body. So why
1:22:38 would the second n beam? So we have realized that this body needs a manual a guiding book and that guide is the veum. That's why the second nu is the veum. Just like when you buy a television or a laptop how you get a user's manual. Same way we realize that this physical human body needs a user manual to understand the intricates and the instruments of how the mind operates and how it needs to be. Hence the second is V. forgiven.
1:23:34 Namaskarum.