Plato’s best (and worst) ideas - Wisecrack

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Brief Summary

This video explores the enduring influence of Plato, highlighting both his groundbreaking ideas and some of his less successful ones. It covers his theory of Forms, his contributions to political theory including the concept of the philosopher king, and some of his outdated views on women and social structure. The video emphasizes that while not all of Plato's ideas have stood the test of time, his work provided a crucial foundation for Western thought and continues to be debated and refined today.

  • Plato's theory of Forms posits a perfect, unchanging world that serves as a blueprint for our imperfect reality.
  • He was a pioneer in political theory, advocating for philosopher kings and, surprisingly for his time, equal ability for women to rule.
  • Some of Plato's ideas, such as his views on women and the "noble lie," have been criticized and discredited.

Introduction

Plato's profound influence on the world and contemporary thinkers is discussed, noting that one 20th-century philosopher described Western philosophy as footnotes to Plato. He founded the first Western university and taught influential figures like Aristotle. However, the video acknowledges that Plato's ideas were not all perfect and some have not aged well. The video will explore some of Plato's best and worst ideas.

The Theory of Forms

Plato's theory of Forms suggests that beyond our imperfect world exists a perfect, unchanging realm of ideal versions of things and concepts. These Forms serve as instruction manuals for our world, including ideal versions of objects, concepts, and virtues. Our reality consists of imperfect copies of these Forms, and philosophers should strive to understand them to navigate our misleading reality. The video emphasizes the philosophical problem of the disconnect between appearance and truth, and Plato's belief in reason as the means to contemplate the Forms.

Plato's Imperfect Reasoning

The video transitions to one of Plato's less successful ideas, recounting how he classified humans as "featherless bipeds." This definition was famously challenged by Diogenes the Cynic, who presented a plucked chicken as "Plato's man."

Political Theory and the Philosopher King

Plato is recognized as one of the earliest political theorists, who believed that ruling requires mastery, similar to any other craft, and should be entrusted to those who have contemplated the Forms. In his Republic, Plato envisioned a utopia led by a philosopher king, aiming for justice and harmonious balance. He also proposed that women were equally capable of ruling in this ideal city, which was a progressive idea for the time.

Inconsistencies and Problematic Ideas

The video highlights Plato's inconsistencies, noting that he sometimes likened women to children and held incorrect beliefs about their anatomy. He also advocated for a society divided into producers, the military, and rulers, maintained by a "noble lie." This lie involved the idea that people are born with different metals in their souls (gold, silver, or a mixture of brass and iron) determining their roles in society. Some thinkers have associated this "noble lie" with 20th-century propaganda and the philosopher king with dictators.

Conclusion

The video concludes by asking whether Plato's flawed ideas diminish his status as a great philosopher. It asserts that they do not, because Plato provided a starting point for subsequent thinkers. Over the centuries, his ideas have been tested, refined, and edited, forming the foundations of the modern world.

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0:07 Few individuals have influenced the world and many of today's thinkers like Plato. One 20th century philosopher even went so far as to describe all of Western philosophy as a series of footnotes to Plato. He created the first Western university and was teacher to Ancient Greece's greatest minds, including Aristotle. But even one of the founders of philosophy wasn't perfect. Along with his great ideas, Plato had a few that haven't exactly stood the test of time. So here are brief rundowns of a few of his best and worst ideas. Plato argued that beyond our imperfect world was a perfect unchanging world of Forms. Forms are the ideal versions of the things and concepts we see around us.

0:57 They serve as a sort of instruction manual to our own world. Floating around the world of Forms is the ideal tree, and the ideal YouTube channel, and even the ideal justice, or ideal love. Our own reality is comprised of imperfect copies of ideal Forms. Plato argued that philosophers should strive to contemplate and understand these perfect Forms so that they may better navigate our misleading reality. While it may seem silly, the disconnect between the world as it appears and the greater truth behind it is one of philosophy's most vexing problems. It's been the subject of thousands of pages by theologians, philosophers, and screenwriters alike.

1:44 It raises questions like should we trust our senses to come to the truth or our own reason? For Plato, the answer is reason. It alone provides us with at least the potential to contemplate the Forms. But reason didn't always pan out for Plato himself. When he sought to situate humankind amongst the animals, he lumped us in with birds. "Featherless bipeds" was his official designation. Diogenes the Cynic, annoyed by this definition, stormed into Plato's class with a plucked chicken, announcing, "Behold. Plato's man." But back to a few good ideas. Plato is one of the earliest political theorists on record, and with Aristotle, is seen as one of the founders of political science.

2:32 He reasoned that being a ruler was no different than any other craft, whether a potter or doctor, and that only those who had mastered the craft were fit to lead. Ruling was the craft of contemplating the Forms. In his Republic, Plato imagined a utopia where justice is the ultimate goal. Plato's ideal city seeks a harmonious balance between its individual parts and should be lead by a philosopher king. Millennia before his time, Plato also reasoned that women were equally able to rule in this model city. Unfortunately, Plato was inconsistent with women, elsewhere likening them to children. He also believed that a woman's womb was a live animal that could wander around in her body and cause illness.

3:21 This bad idea, also espoused by other contemporaries of Plato, was sadly influential for hundreds of years in European medicine. Furthermore, he thought that society should be divided into three groups: producers, the military, and the rulers, and that a great noble lie should convince everyone to follow this structure. The noble lie he proposed was that we're all born with gold, silver, or a mixture of brass and iron in our souls, which determine our roles in life. Some thinkers have gone on to credit the idea of the noble lie as a prototype for 20th century propaganda, and the philosopher king as inspiration for the dictators that used them.

4:06 Should a few bad ideas tarnish Plato's status as one of the greatest philosophers in history? No! Plato gave the leaders and thinkers who came after him a place to start. Through the centuries, we've had the chance to test those ideas through writing and experience, and have accepted some while rejecting others. We are continuing to refine, amend, and edit his ideas which have become foundations of the modern world.

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