This woke MELTDOWN over "Heated Rivalry" is so ABSURD!

0:00 A new heated rivalry related scandal has just dropped and this time it has to do with the empty netters podcast. Powers was so annoyed by the positive reaction saying that the gushing response was only making the blue-haired Twitter people happy. He also said privately in these text messages, I think the losers who made the show are cowards. But a lot of people saw it and assumed he was bad mouthing the show privately while profiting it from it from praising it publicly. People lack comprehension skills. Oh, the average person reads and comprehends at a sixth grade level. And the average person is still smarter than half of America. Okay, we're so no context quotes right before we start recording. If I get my ass, I'll run and tell the whole town. This

0:45 is the heated rivalry episode anyway. Oh, well, perfect. I mean, PGX R. Just be ready. Uh anyway, welcome back to normal gays that we don't normally open up episodes like that, but what whatever. We're going to just go with it. I'm Brad Palumbo here with Clarkson Lawson. What's up, guys? Now, we're going to be answering some of your questions that uh you when we post it on YouTube on YouTube and people send them in. We're going to answer those questions for our members only this week. And then next week, we've got Blair White joining us and we're we're play a fun game or something. Do you have any ideas what you want us to do? Yeah. like um like games we can do cuz we'll do some serious content with Blair as well, but then we're going to do like a f Mary kill or something fun as well. Anyway, we're going to finally talk about Heated Rivalry, which people have been asking us to discuss. Yeah, I watched the whole series. I I did not. First, I I'll just give my

1:32 take and then you can tell us your impression. First, I thought it was just gonna be smut and it is obviously kind of smutty, but it's actually like less explicit than even like Game of Game of Thrones season one, but I actually thought it ended up being pretty well done and well acted and uh had a nice story to it and I thought it was all things considered pretty decent. But you watched just the first episode and I watched like there was company in the background. Yeah. So, you really can't give any opinion. I wasn't doing anything. We were just talking. Yeah. That So, you weren't watching the me? We were We weren't watching it. Um, but as I was watching parts of it, it was pissing me off cuz it reminded me of when I was like in a thing with somebody who's in the closet and it was just activating like something. Oh, triggering. Yeah, it was triggering me. So, I was just like this. Like, it was pissing me off. I'm like, this isn't a love story, [ __ ] This guy is You're both sorry. Anyways, bleep. Yeah, we're going to bleep that. Um, chia. Anyway,

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3:57 really absurd drama, heated rivalry drama that happened from this straight male hockey podcast. They're called the Empty Netters. I never heard of them before this. Okay. But they got a ton of traction and went super viral for like because just because they're hockey players. No, no, they're not. They're hockey podcasters. Oh, okay. So they they do a hockey podcast and they started they're all straight men and they started reacting to heated rivalry and loving it in like this performative way. Yeah. And all the gays and they and ladies were like, "Oh my god, we love a king. We love a secure man." And turns out they were talking it some of them in texts. Oh, previously. And so it may have all been performative. However, he has an explanation for himself. So we're going

4:43 to hear him out. We're going to go through the whole controversy. Here's a video explaining it and then we'll play his response and then we will judge whether he's actually a fraud or not. A new heated rivalry related scandal has just dropped and this time it has to do with the Empty Netters podcast. In a new article published by Out Sports, they said that the host actually privately trashed the show despite them gaining so much popularity from reacting positively to it and even having Robbie GK on. Allegedly, in a series of text messages sent to multiple recipients and seen by the news outlet, Dan Powers, who was one of the hosts, was very privately anti the show while publicly praising it and making a lot of money from it. In the early days of the public reaction, Powers was so annoyed by the positive reaction, saying that the gushing response was only making the blue-haired Twitter people happy. He also said privately in these text messages, "I think

5:32 the losers who made the show are cowards." The producers are Canadian for crying out loud. This is the trash they make because it panders, it's provocative, and it checks inclusivity boxes. He said privately that he refused to give the show the time of day out of principle. Except then when they went on and had people say that they should talk about it, they reacted extremely publicly to the point where they had 300,000 people tune into their finale live/v video. They even said that Connor and Hudson are coming onto their show. So they are profiting in so many different ways off of this story. And this is a big bombshell considering they were one of the biggest public advocates for the show and they had a big hockey audience. So they I think they got a lot of hockey fans into the show. But of course, they also made a ton of money off of these episodes. So, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think that this is true? I'm just shocked that this dropped

6:18 today. Tell me what you think. I think that he probably did have opinions on it at first and then he watched it and he thought it was a good show. That's what he says. Yeah. So, let's watch his um response then and then we'll because I feel like when I first heard about the show, I'm not going to lie, like over the last like six years of woke, I feel like I have like PTSD. So, anytime I see even gay characters, I'm like, it's kind of non-binary. Well, yeah. Because sometimes they're so forced into a storyline that it kind of just like rips everything like the creativity that comes naturally to people. Yeah. Um, and it doesn't really represent us well. So, when I first heard of heated rivalry, I kind of had the same thought process. I worried it would be woke and it really isn't. Yeah. I mean that that I think that was most people's probably concerned and then when it wasn't that's probably what it I so I mean the host I mean he is trashing it

7:08 pretty heavily for having not seen it like saying oh it's just going to make the bluehaired Twitter people but like low key I could see myself saying I was just going to say I pro I thought that like immediately I thought that whenever I see two gay guys kiss in public I'm like they're doing it for attention. That might be your triple. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No joke. Oh my god. Um but no I I I don't know. Maybe I just am being contrarian, but he so he claims that that was his initial opinion and and then that when they watched it, they liked it. Let's watch this. Okay, a second to acknowledge the outsport piece that came out today. Uh I know that a ton of people are shocked by this, confused by this, and frustrated by this, and I take that very, very seriously, and I want to say that this has caught me completely offguard and frankly is super

7:54 disappointing. And I just wanted to take a beat to sort of understand everything before addressing you all. First of all, the timeline implied in this article is completely false and inaccurate. And it suggests that we were watching this show sending messages like this while at the same time reviewing it and speaking poorly about it, which is completely inaccurate. These messages were sent over a week before we had ever watched the show and before we had ever posted a review. And I also know the person that these messages are sent to. It is a person who is a podcaster who is also talking about and reviewing heated rivalry. It is a person that I considered a good friend that I have had a lovely relationship with. So, it's been very confusing and frankly crushing that this person would try to execute an attack like this on us when all we have done is love and appreciate

8:43 the same show that he was loving and appreciating. I don't understand it. It feels very crazy to be bitter and angry at us for enjoying this show and having fun with it, but that is the root of all this. Yeah. So, the the gist here is basically he's saying I those texts were from before we watched it. He cuz he wasn't actually being fake. That was a lot of people seemed to misunder I actually think the article if you read it closely did did actually make the decision because I came to that conclusion without seeing his clip, right? But a lot of people saw it and assumed he was bad mouthing the show privately while profiting it from it from praising it publicly. Most people lack comprehension skills. Oh, they're not reading skills are at like critical no the average person reads and comprehends at a sixth grade level and the average person is still smarter than half of

9:30 America. Okay, we're so um anyway, every time I I feel like I say that every week and you know what, it's it's a kind of a a bar every time. So, I agree. I don't think I think it's not a great look. It's like definitely a little embarrassing uh to have trashed this and then gone on to like be its biggest fans and definitely cash in on the like we're the cool straight guys who are woke. They definitely played into it a bit because I would assume they didn't actually say they had apprehensions about the show. No, they were not transparent about it. They weren't transparent about it, which means they were playing something up. Yeah. Um but it doesn't necessarily everyone on the internet that all podcasters and creators lean into things. You don't ever play anything

10:16 up for attention. I guess I don't think it's that bad. I don't think it's that big a deal. And I do actually find it interesting that it was like a friend or another podcaster who probably didn't get the same views and was just bitter that leaked these texts to the journalist. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Is the other friend gay or not? I I don't know. But I I would guess maybe it could be the case that he's like mad the straight guys got all the views for their reaction. When they say um like when white people do something um like take something from black people and then they say that we're like colonizing it. I they probably are making that type of argument with the straight guys, but I don't care. I feel like straight guys like Trust me, you want straight people supporting gay people, right? Right now, Beckers should not be choosers, okay? Like, if we lose the straits, especially the straight women, like heated rivalry came at a perfect time in America cuz we need

11:06 these straight women on our side. Yeah, that's why they want to get rid of their right to vote cuz then when they can't vote, we we're we are. Um, so I want to play a couple other like woke funny things related to the show, not related to this controversy, but here's one Tik Tok I found uh bizarre. If you like this show and support its themes and messages, then you cannot watch this show and support the show. Okay, do we see the connection? If you liked the show, I don't not watch this show or support anything about. Okay. No, I don't see the connection because trans people are not the same thing as gay people. And this show has nothing to do with trans people and JK. It's all so stupid. JK Rowling is a big supporter of the gays. Yes. And she has

11:52 Listen, you could say, "Oh, you're supporting her transphobia or whatever." She has infinity money, brother. She can she's not going to be able to give more money because you watched a Harry Potter show she's tangentially involved in. God, the logic is non-existent. I just would be exhausted going through life. Like everything I buy, everything I consume, like it's all like, "Oh, does this pass this purity test?" Like, aren't you guys tired? Imagine how tired we are of it. We're tired watching you. I don't have time to do all that. Like, I can barely remember to cut my nails. Clearly, now I'm going to read you a tweet that's going to make you crash out. Okay, prepare to crash out if he did rival. Oh, fine. I quoted this. I already quoted him. My My reply went viral. Well, let me let me Oh, yeah. You You need your little flex. I went viral. I did. Um,

12:38 this is the tweet. If heated rivalry really wants to break barriers, I I have to All right. Cast rugby or football players with real bodies, bellies included. No thanks. The gay community isn't just abs and twigs. Show us bears. Different bodies, different stories. Big networks and movies need to reflect the full gay community. Enough with the same two jocks. Hashtag heated rivalry. I'll Before you go off, my take on this was like, brother, you you wanted them to cast fat guys as the professional athletes, as the professional hockey players. This is like the one example where them having like very fit bodies is not like unrealistic. The one thing I do think is a little unrealistic, and maybe you won't because you might think that the fact that the guy that works at

13:25 like the smoothie place is insanely ripped is a little strange, but the rest of them are literally NHL players. In real life, that guy, if he was a barista, no, he'd have an only pans. And if he if you look like that and you're gay, you don't need to work as a barista. But anyways, this tweet only had like 2,000 views before I quoted it. And all I said, do you know that meme from Spongebob? like, "Oh, brother, this guy stinks." I That's all I said. And my tweet went viral and then his tweet went viral and then everybody started quoting it. Even all the gays on the like the the left were like, "Well, because all they're all hot still, no one wants to watch fat people having sex." Like, it is this is smut. This is softcore porn. We need ugly people. We're targeting straight women with

14:12 this. Straight women don't want to watch men that look like their husbands. They want to watch hot gay men. I I don't. But it's really interesting because the people on the left went after well the hot gays on the left because there's like a subset of of like woke gay and then there's like the hot muscle gay that like panders a little bit to the woke stuff or just like I don't know. But everybody went after this guy. Apparently he was on Big Brother or something. Oh, was he? Yeah. And like I guess all my father was like he was unbearable on Big Brother. But I just think it's hilarious to be like, why wasn't this show about why wasn't a show about fat people? We're fat people. Why wasn't this show that is literally entirely based on sex appeal about fat people? I I have to laugh. I'm sorry. This is so ridiculous. There's objectivity to beauty.

15:00 And I'm sorry. I'm Listen, everybody has not everybody, but a lot of people have good hearts, but some of them are enlarged because they're fat. And people don't want to I'm sorry. I don't I knew you would cook on this. I don't want to when I go on to Pornhub, even though it's banned when it's it's banned in my state, I don't go on there. Um, but when I choose a category, do you know what category I'm not choosing? Fat. Do you know what category most of America's not choosing? Fat. So, if you're going to make a movie that you want to have mass appeal, you have to appeal to what the masses want. And I'm sorry, Derek, but they don't want bellies and fat bears. That honestly that's like imagine heated rivalry with like hairy fat leather bears and they're like trying to play hockey while wearing that that like [ __ ] ring around their the two like I I'm sorry it's

15:49 just so outrageous. This is an outrageous tweet and he knew it. That's why he put the hashtags in the tweet. # heated rivalry hashtag Well congratulations [ __ ] attention you went one other dumb woke tweet about heated rivalry. Why in the hell are lesbians expected to support MLM, men loving men media, when lesbian/safic media does safic mean? It's another word for lesbian uh lesbian media would absolutely never ever receive the same support. Your heated rivalry. Um we don't need y'all support. I don't like I just I guess the premise of this I I missed the part where lesbians were required or expected to heated lesbians to like heated rivalry and I don't know. Are you surprised gay men wouldn't want to watch lesbians? A lesbian? This is like

16:36 when lesbians get mad that all of their bars close after 30 days. Like, it's y'all's fault. You don't you don't go to bar. So, if more of you watched lesbian shows or if you found, more importantly, if you found a way to make them interesting to straight men, which is what happened here, then you can have more shows. Well, I think what happened don't blame gay men for not wanting to watch two women in softcore pornography. I think that rivalry appeals to straight women. That's what I said. Oh, so you were saying this inverse. Yeah, I think that would be honestly straight men would with that. You know, they love lesbian corn. So, all right. It's not full corn. They don't show that much. They show full ass and they are but they show um Yeah, but it's been Game of Thrones. The point of the show is to turn you on. It's for No, it's love.

17:26 Well, part of love is being turned on, which is why I could never marry a woman. But you also, to be fair, did we ever do the ad read? Yeah, we queued it. Oh, we did? Oh, okay. Dumbass. Well, leave that in there so y'all can see what a airhead. He literally forgets what we said five minutes ago. Well, it's just it's no point in reserving it in my brain. Let things go in because there's such limited space up there that you got to keep deleting. Conserving energy. All right. I'm on a calorie deficit. I have to conserve brain energy. Cuz you haven't started your horse serum yet. No, I started that. Oh god. Talking about my um I can't say it. Oh, because it's illegal. No, it's not. I'm doing Oh, yeah. Is it FDA approved in America to be sold for to individuals? No. Your supplements aren't FDA approved. I don't take supplements. Okay. Well, maybe you should.

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