TikTok's Poser Problem | Video Essay

0:00 one of the most like embarrassingly poignant moments in my journey of self-discovery when I was a young wee little teenage boy was being called a poser by the Elder Emos I'd never felt so invalidated so silly so goofy so haha look at the poser boy then on that moment where I rocked up on nons school uniform day proudly in my my Kem Romance Black Parade t-shirt and and I got called a poser by some random Emos at the bus stop it sucked and what does that have to do with this video I say well I'm not sure but maybe we'll unpack that somewhere throughout it today we are talking about poses on Tik Tok and

0:46 what it represents for society but before we get into that hello there my name is C life and if you're new to this channel basically what we do is video essays about things we see on the internet and then we will discuss it as a team down in the comment section below so if that sounds like fun for you please feel free to subscribe as to trying to beat this ratio and if we do beat it that would be sick now just showing that I definitely am a poser aren't I anyways we do digress and if you're not new here hello again old friend it's me your boy cow I'm still growing out my hair and I'm still having to wear hats because I can't quite manage it right now but I'm booking in for a haircut with my good friends soon so hopefully they can cut some layers into it and we can start looking like a 70s Rockstar yippee let's crack on with the video the term poser has been used within various subcultures to describe a person that is very try

1:33 hard they adopt the Aesthetics and behaviors without truly understanding its values and core principles the term start to get really really big and popular around the 1970s when you know punks was this big powerful movement and basically they used the term to criticize people that were more interested in the looks and Aesthetics of being Punk rather than you know the radical political movement that it was you know hello spiky hair and Anarchy so long anything to do with actual anti-establishment ethos in recent years though with like the rise of social media and apps like Tik Tok the issue and the discussions around posers has become more prominent Tik tok's algorithmic pero of visually pleasing

2:19 content means that it has led to like a surge of people adopting subcultures Styles superficially often for like clout or monetization and that creates a real interesting conversation Within These sub movements of the purposes of these posers within the submovements say sub movements more Cal sub movements anyway it's a fascinating one with pros and cons which we're going to dive into today yes that's right poses somehow have a purpose in this world and that's okay first off let's just look at some of the biggest known posers on Tik Tok currently so it gives us a fair equal playing field so we know what to Envision when we're talking about poses in subcultures yep first we have Shannon Blake known for her spiritual and hippie themed content Shannon Blake has

3:04 received so much controversy online for basically being every negative stereotype of a hippie you can imagine really rich totally self-aware and despite kind of being like I'm all about helping and stuff all of her lyrics are me me me I I I I win I got loads of money yippee got to love Tik Tok e her portrayal of hippie culture often really overlooks its countercultural roots and focuses on a more superficial spiritual ity you know just basically saying things to sound cool and interesting and if that doesn't do it for you Shannon Blake has also been criticized because of the spirituality she does talk about you know with palladians and Nordic aliens bear an uncomfortable resemblance to the Aran race is it white supremacy or is she just naive who knows up next

3:50 on our poser Hit List is tx2 tx2 has garnered so much Fame for his emo wait now I mean Punk wait no I mean goth wait no I mean metal music he basically has this big tendency of just switching between the different subcultures whilst producing rage bit content alarm clicks an engagement to his page and of course this rage bait completely detracts from the authenticity of the sub movements and you know pretty much misleads his young impressionable audience also a very notable talking point with tx2 is his glorification of self harm you know if you're so attached to the emo scene maybe maybe don't glorify self harm you silly Billy it's kind of weird which we will dive into another member of the posa posy is Caroline Carr this rock and

4:37 roll Punk Rocka Punk woohoo Cherry Bomb Caroline recently did a cover of Cherry Bomb that's why I just I just wanted to join in and have some fun singing along but we do digress Caroline profits off the punk athetic but their behavior completely contradicts the DIY ethos Caroline regularly promotes fast fashion and the Tik Tok shop on her page which is not Punk that's capitalism baby goes against punk as it's not anti-establishment it's I'm all for the establishment I want to get creepy old white man Incorporated richer YooHoo stop I don't like it also there was this other Punk creator that got a lot of heat for wearing a Balenciaga top in one of their posts but then they came online

5:23 and they were like no that picture is from ages ago and I wasn't even Punk then okay but it does highlight a very important question of subcultural Purity and real life complexities I.E no one on this planet was born Punk You' become Punk or you become part of these subculture movements so of course there'll be pictures existing online probably because everyone has a digital footprint of when they didn't look Punk all the conversation of poses is so complex and interesting so strap on him because I've got a lot of yapping I want to do and I hope we can all talk about it in the comments section below let's get into it sorry I've also had a lot of stimulant today not heinous ones just lots of caffeine so I'm a bit like woo point one let's get into it yeah

6:10 glorification and misrepresentation posers or people considered posers by the communities they belong to or at least superficially look like they belong to often prioritize the fashionable aspects of the subculture while like ignoring or completely misunderstanding the underlying philosophy fees and basically why that is # bad don't know why I said that that is painfully cringe but you know I'm a one take kind of guy so we're going to keep on rolling but basically why that is bad is because it completely dilutes the subculture original message and the purpose so for example take Shannon Blake you would think the hippie is all about peace and love and spreading kindness and being positive look at Shannon's lyrics they're all me me me I I I I'm securing the bag I'm rich I fly

6:55 first class Doom goom boom not cool that's not very hippie yo that is capitalism dressed up with locks and all that other hippie goodness don't get distracted by the happy gol Lucky lyrics that is very much creepy old man Incorporated right there behind that is a bunch of old men being like we're going to get so rich off of this and they will capitalism baby what a freaking unbeatable boss that is and the problem is when you get these stereotypical poser looking characters like Shannon Blake and Tix to who are clearly trying to monetize the whole thing is in the eyes that look at them now see them as this quirky product rather than this actual radical movement or something that's actually trying to spread good in the world it's just this look that you can go buy a Hot Topic or if you gone Etsy and type in I want to look like I've just come back from

7:41 stroking elephants but it looks good on my job applications you know boom bang boom that's what these two are and they don't actually perpetuate any real good ideas to society really part from at a base level if you don't really choose to analyze them but that's what we're doing today we're analyzing isn't that fun but the issue comes around when these characters in these sub movements get more attention than actual valid authentic people within the sub movements actually care that aren't doing it for money they're not trying to monetize their pages but they're just trying to talk about the sub movements they belong to and they understandably get annoyed which creates a bit of a weird toxic environment because maybe the younger viewers or just people new to the scene who saw say Shannon Blake or tx2 and now they're interested in Punk or hippie like oh well I want to get into these and then they're seeing all this conflict in the comments section be like this isn't real Punk or

8:27 this isn't real hippie boom anger emotion and it creates this weird environment and that brings me on to my next talking point which is toxicity and gatekeeping posers indirectly and directly create a lot of gatekeeping in communities why because they create anger and anger is an emotion that people tend to let out in comment sections so basically I think poses serve a real positive role in the world as being like these giant sign poost these giant generic signposts and they should only really used at superficial level but still these giant sign posts that can be like hey look hippies exist or hey punks exist and though these two characters may represent very dileted dileted diluted versions of said sub movements they still act as signposts

9:14 like say if you're diving down the road and you see a big big sign saying hippie you're going to think hm hippie and then you might go home and Google it and search it well that's what these two are in human tangible not tactile but tangible form so they may Peak your curiosity and that's how you get into those sub movements and then you finally can forget all about tx2 and Shannon Blake and actually become a real hippie or a real Punk which I don't even know what means anymore because there's so much conflict on what it means to be authentic these days that I just say I'm nothing and I just silently watch anyways we do digress but the issue with these young minds are now having is they're greeted by these people that have so much anger and emotion towards tx2 and shanon Blake and rightly so I'm not coming against those people I understand why if you're part of a movement and you really care about it and people are now just diluting it you

10:00 would be like n but they're trying to like Express what it does mean to be in these movements and be like you know Punk's a political ideology it's about protesting and Standing Up Against the Machine not you know how gelled and spiky you can make your hair and yeah an Aras or whatever it's it's about an actual thing but the genuinely interested new people to the subcultures will now be put off CU like oh gosh this seems like there's a lot of T's and C's to join these movements I don't got all of that friend I just wanted want to done the cool look and then probably if you were just nice about it they would have done the cool look and then gotten into you know going to the local scenes and actually learning about it but when you breach it with so much animosity especially as a young mind it's quite off-putting which links back to my intro about when I got called a poser I didn't want to be an Emo anymore I felt

10:46 rejected by the one thing I thought I could find comfortability in and I didn't so then I became like a gym lad oh gosh this isn't therapy Thursdays and I am digressing but this is why it's also interesting and there's so much Nuance involved it's not just like poses are comp completely bad in totality I think yes the people and some of the stuff they do is bad and probably heinous for society but despite all that they still act to sign post that can get you into communities it's just the actual members of those communities once you gets past surface steep will be annoyed by those people because it's like well it doesn't actually represent us at all but you know it might Peak New People's curiosity into those movements and also if we're being honest everybody starts off a poser you know everybody starts off as someone new trying to get into a scene so just calling people as poses online yes you may want to call

11:31 tix to and Shannon Blake but I've also seen lots of instances of random people on Tik Tok being called a poser and that's just a toxic not nice gatekeeping environment like there's people in my comment sections from other videos I've done on subcultures being like they got called a poser for not owning a leather jacket listening to other music other than the punk genre only owning more than one pair of boots like come on what a privilege it is to own multiple pairs of shoes and yes you and I watching this might be like oh cow but I ear multiple pairs of shoes yes it's still a luxury and not everybody gets that the world is a very unequal playing field so you know just think before you call someone a poser you know conversely I've also seen older people of these communities who have been in them for years and years and years being called posers themselves cuz they don't dress up like the stereotypical look that social media

12:17 perpetuates 24/7 why because they got a job they've got Financial commitments their validity doesn't come from how they dress superficially which is typically a more younger thing to do you know you dress up a certain way so you are that thing if that makes sense and that's not a shot at younger people doing that that's a great way to express yourself to begin with and find what works best for you it's just this whole thing has Nuance so calling someone a poser I think kind of just makes you this poser cuz you think so hard about what to be like in that movement that it just makes you seem like bit of a weirdo really someone I would mute on a cool that's the worst way to end that point I think it's very normal for if you're part of these subculture movements to you know want to uphold its standards but with that don't

13:04 just go calling everyone oppose a left right and Center cuz they don't meet your own criteria your criteria which is unique to you and self- put on by you as long as someone's trying to actively learn and better themselves who cares about the Journey of how they got there right however another very valid critique of these poses is the commercialization of it and yes that's the next talking point commercialization basically capitalism zooe mama a very valid critique of poses is they often contribute even sometimes unknowingly to the commercialization of subculture movements and what they mean and sorry my arms are moving about a lot I just clocked that in the viewfinder I'm going to try and calm that down cuz I don't want to annoy you all I've just got a lot of excited energy today because I really enjoyed talking about subculture movements longtime fan first time

13:51 commenter listen it's not I've done so many videos on this digression again let's get back on track basically we get people like the Cherry bar Tik Tok content creator selling stuff on the Tik Tok shop profiting off the look getting financial gain from it kind of exploiting a fan base being like if you want to be Punk to if you want to be alternative buy this buy this fast fashioned crap from the Tik Top Shop which quality will be awful but I get money you know it's prioritizing making money over actually doing something for the culture actually doing something for the movement so long on the DIY do it yourself ethos ways or you know maybe just supporting small independent Brands now it's let's get creepy old man Incorporated richer please I think he

14:37 needs another billion dollars in his back pocket particularly in the punk culture these characters that are seen wearing fast fashion Alternatives of things that are heavily associated with you know the punk culture such as the crust pants or like the patch jackets buying versions of those really undermines the values of you know building it yourself and customizing it with your favorite bands and such it all just makes it seem like this fun little gimmick that you can log in and log out of whenever you want however I feel like I should note there are some cases where people have to buy pre-made crust pants or you know trous patches or just Aesthetics that are linked to the punk movement for multiple reasons you know those reasons they might maybe they physically can't make them themselves but they still want to be a part of the scene so you know they may buy them on

15:22 Etsy or you know they're still at home and they live with their parents and the parents are like you're not allowed to make your own clothes you have to you have to buy them from a shop there 's a whole host of reasons why people do the things they do so don't label someone opposer so quickly not cool not swag not inclusive actually very counterintuitive if you want to keep your movement going basically what I'm going to say throughout this whole conversation is try and think with nuance and emotion and compassion rather than he's opposer or their opposer they must be bad ra there's pros and cons to everything and there's also reasons to most things obviously these big characters represent a lot of bad for the movements but individual small creators that you're calling posers or just random people in comment section was arguing with them because they may or may not have made their own cross pants well then there's there could be genuine reasons why they didn't however in the case of like

16:08 Caroline and such who are using their platform and their privilege to you know just try and sell their fans is the polite way to put it just lots of crap that they're going to be like yeah I love this I use it all the time then you'll never see it in another video and they just have hundreds of these things it all just promotes over consumerism which is a problem in wider Society it's not just link to subcultures just the over consumption just the ethos of more more more buy more you know I need more to express myself rather than expressing ourselves through our own operations it's it's not good it's not ethical business practices and it really isn't ethical if you're in the punk scene creators like tx2 having a cameo page it's just like a maybe these people

16:54 actually are just terrible for the scene CU it's just like pay me money and I will send you a 30 second video and I'll just read off a script uh it's all just a bit disingenuous and they're just very much these characters rather than anyone actually trying to perpetuate something good and obviously you wouldn't critique someone with the same totality if they didn't claim to be a punk emo or goth still I don't know to this day which one is at tx2 I guess you change your mind every week but because tx2 does profit off these subculture movements that are meant to be about you know anti-establishment and going against the grain and you know not prioritizing and securing the bag it's funny seeing these content creators try and sell you so much stuff because it's just like oh you're very clearly the capitalistic concept of these movements and not

17:42 actually of these movements next up I kind of want to discuss some like the ethical and social concerns I've been contemplating starting with exploitation of mental health tix to's glorification of self harm and mental health issues for clout is like so devoid of humanity and like completely unethical not only that it's actually incredibly dumb and dangerous especially considering how young his typical fan is and how impressionable they might be these just unthought out lyrics can trivialize very real things and negatively influence the vulnerable viewers the audience and what by that I mean basically the younger audiences that you know want to be Emo and they listen to T to may feel they have to do some of these things or try and force themselves to relate to some

18:28 of the these things to you know be part of the scene or to you know feel like they're closer to tx2 which I know is very parasocial but you know the young mind really does cling on to things for sign posts and to feel like they fit in and to feel like they're seen to feel like they're validated so I can totally understand why they may feel that type of way and actually I can give anecdotal stories on this when I was visibly part of the emo movement you know when I was a kid and I was just trying to find myself a lot of the time people would ask you really inappropriate questions you know members of that group as well being like do you do you self harm or like I think a lot of people would do at school would be like Risk check which is horrendous and just like really disgusting but I kind of just put it down to you know young minds are

19:14 underdeveloped they're not developed yet so they can't understand the totality of their words or at least that's what I was told and I was told I should let it go they don't understand what they're saying no it still hurt it still is a very uncomfortable thing to say to me and my friends but glorifying that tx2 and being like yeah and 100,000 kids think I'm the it's a messy one and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth cuz it's just like why are you making things that are very sad and yes the emo movement may be associated with themes of depression and the things that go with that but it's not one you should be like yeah that's pretty cool and quirky hey rock on dude it makes me want to be like a One V one me on Smash Bros bro because you need to get knocked out of this park for real for real no cap and that's not me inciting violence I hate

19:59 violence and confrontation but I just needed a analogy or a word to try of just displace my discomfort I feel when discussing this because I think an adult coming online and creating content being like self harm woo kids love me woo it's just I don't know makes me sad I don't know if that's a copout answer as well but it just does also you could say like in the case of Shannon Blake's case you know when she's like I cured my kidneys without seeking a medical professional again you know audience might try and do that themselves and though it may have worked in Shannon's case it may not work for you and you may get seriously ill so what I'm saying with that is please go see a doctor if you're ever ill don't just listen to some random Tik tocker that has zero medical qualifications please it probably won't end well and if it does end well for you you got very lucky but not everyone else should

20:45 follow suit always seek the help of a medical professional another ethical and social concern I have is over sexualization now I don't want to show an actual example of this because it feels weird and I just don't want to further perpetuate this type of content but like you'll get like a lot of thirst trap counts maybe accounts where the content creator typically makes content to cater towards the down bad horny mind and Within These accounts you'll get people that are not alternative at all suddenly adopt the alternative aesthetic to create sexualized content which further perpetuates the negative stereotype that you know them presenting old people you know or like go women is the obvious example are these

21:31 hypersexualized creatures that we should all pine and crave which is disgusting weird and creepy there is a genuine real problem of the hypersexualization of women and just them presenting people in general in the alternative communities every single one of them and what further worsens that is when people just come online and think oh I see the jokes about a goth dmy mommy or whatever whatever tx2 heinously said and they're like yeah maybe I can secure the bag off this as well and you just get normies or normal people and that's not me being rude but just like people that just aren't in alternative communities dressing up like them to farm clicks and engagement and make money off of it again leaves a weird taste in your mouth right this all comes at the detriment of people that actually are in these communities if their subcultural norms and values are not

22:17 being destroyed and tarnished then guess what the f presenting people in the community are going to get over sexualized Yahoo this really is a hot pot of just well sad thoughts and makes you feel sad and probably give gives you an existential crisis but don't do that because well I have a good reason for that but just don't do it but yeah my goal is never to like cause an existential crisis in a viewer but I think it's good to consider like why this is bad so we can talk about it and hopefully promote some sort of change within Society right or at least that's the hope and that's the intention due to like the capitalistic nature of society and social media people will just adopt looks and styles with without thinking about the totality of it and you may be like how that's such an online take but

23:03 in the case of these subculture movements that actually hold big values and big ethoses and they actually stand for something just dressing up like them to you know thirst trap and secure the bag it's just a shame really isn't it it's just like how the posers of these communities like Caroline who's the Tik Tok shop are also just trying to secure the B from it trying to make money from these things seems immoral and wrong right like in my video I did about Goths I had so many F presenting goth people in my comment section just being like they have been fetishized and over sexualized since they were a teenager like a literal child being sexualized by grown men on the Internet or just in real life they're getting harassed it's unwarranted it's disgusting and it

23:50 really is very heinous and all this Behavior online that's trivialized and it's just oh it's just someone doing a thirst trap it's just a bit of fun or whatever it's all contributing to this very toxic place for actual members of these communities another ethical and social concern I want to talk about is like inclusivity versus exclusivity while like some critics and members of the community may argue that only those who fully embody a subcultures values should be considered a true member whatever that means luckily there's also more rational people in the community that also make note that not everybody has the means or the ability to do so so for instance someone kindly pointed out in one of my last videos that for sensory reasons they can't stitch on

24:35 patches so they iron on patches instead or you know another valid argument is not everybody has the money to buy the things they need to make their own clothes which I know sounds silly because you're like well well what do you mean you can't buy the things to make clothes but you can buy clothes yes but fast fashion clothes are very very cheap so people that have to budget incredibly hard or there's probably a better way to phrase that but you know what I mean they have to be very careful with how they use their money on the may they just don't have much disposable money have to put it in the right places so if it means expressing themsel towards a look that they like and also feeding themselves you know again Nuance to this conversation they're probably still a punk and though yes they're contributing to fast fashion it's such a tradeoffer and a moral dilemma because it may also validate them and make them feel good about themselves and may

25:21 improve their mental health that may make them feel like they're expressing themselves in a true authentic way so you kind of want to let people like that into your community they're just doing their best with the resources they have available to them right conversely I still also get the point of being like no it's fast fashion bro and yeah that's a tough one and at that point I'm just like ah I don't know anymore I think a lot of people would be quick to point out though if you are truly a member of these communities if you're tring into the punk community and The Goth community and say the emo Community it's very much less about how you look and much rather being an actual member of the community going to the local shows you know mixing within the scenes however I think social media has really distorted it for a lot of younger people or just new people looking to get into these movements because the ones that do get

26:07 perpetuated online these posers all look a certain way they all look like the stereotypes so people may feel they had to put a huge importance on looking the right way rather than acting or doing the right way within those movements if that makes sense and I do find like the inclusivity versus like exclusivity argument an interesting one say for example that punk we saw earlier that was seen wearing a blend Saga top now yes at its core you'd be like that's not Punk you're wearing a designer brand a very expensive brand that cost hundreds of pounds you know that's not very Punk right and obviously a normal person wearing Balenciaga you would't think anything of because you like oh it's just them wearing a designer brand and they're choosing to spend their money however they want within the economy fair play you may think it's silly but it's not really that deep but a punk you may have an opinion on however this Punk also came online and was like this

26:53 pictures was from years ago I don't wear that top anymore it doesn't represent me but people are still coming for that content creator being like poser poser poser and it's not for like another reason everyone's just very focused on the Balenciaga top and that in itself I think is very toxic and weird and creates this real exclusivity around the punk movement which should be a place of open doors where it can liberate and educate people on how to be anti-establishment how to be this actual powerful political movement but it seems like people want to just score brownie points within the community members online and be like actually I don't think they're a punk that's right I just leveled up to prestige one Punk time to make my crusty panties that more crustier it's like oh yeah go outside

27:39 please it's not that deep everybody started off a poser we all just dipped our toes into sub movements and didn't really understand what we're doing maybe we just got a t-shirt or something cool or an album we're like yeah this is fun I want to get more into this everybody starts off vaguely clueless nobody knows everything at the beginning hindsight is a beautiful thing don't be so God please think with Nuance online I know when you're passionate and excited about something your emotions control you and that's great that you this amazing passionate person but if a Creator comes in line and says that was from ages ago it doesn't really represent them anymore what else can they do right if they're the one showing up to the political rallies they're getting amongst it they're way more part of the community than someone that sits in line and like yeah you're a poser as they sit there

28:24 with their Apple Mac their Apple phone and they have their star Starbucks subscription in hand Starbucks subscription sorry I'm thinking of the Pratt subscription which is like a subscription for coffees in the UK anyway we do digress they have their Starbucks coffee cup in hand it's just like oh my goodness celebrate everybody's journey into these sub movements we were all once normies and now we're in the underbelly of the alternative world just let people do things right let people Express themselves learn and have fun and find their true authentic self if we're constantly held to what we used to be no one will ever grow learn and change and then no one will join the punk movement cuz like I said nobody starts off as a goth punk emo no matter how punk emo or goth you may think you're out your core you were once just a regular Normie I don't know crapping your pants and like playing fortnite or

29:12 something I I don't know insert relatable sentence yippee finally I would just like to discuss the role of social media social media platforms like Tik Tok incentivize sensationalism and Aesthetics over substance so for form over substance this often leads to very superficial understandings of subcultures where appearance is prioritized over values and I don't know actual core ethos of those sub movements oh my gosh I've said sub movements so many times sub movements basically what I'm saying what you'll probably see in this comment section is people from these actual communities being like yeah we don't really care what you look like just you know get amongst the sub movements turn up to the protest be part of the local music scene get amongst it actually

29:58 engage with other people from the scene you know don't just go online and sell some commission based product on the Tik Top Shop or just act out the stereotype without actually talking about any other the values or doing anything of action and note you know just try to do some good in the community that's what lots of people will tell you people that actually go outside and actually are normal in the sense that they're not just like I'm a level 9,000 crusty pirate Punk and these are my crust pantaloons or I'm a 6 billion year old goth vampire don't what our noises have to do with Goths we're just freestyling on this thing but you know what I mean poses are very problematic that's undeniable cuz they create blood lines for what actually is part of the sub movement but also the people calling

30:43 people posers are just as bad as posers they're that the actual posers in my opinion social media can be this amazing tool to educate and teach people about you know Punk goth or emo and keep these movements alive and that's what we should prioritize not so much these POS of people that just # Punk or # Emo or # hippie that get all the fame and attention and hopefully that's what we'll see in my comment section real people from these communities explaining and talking to maybe curious minds of what it actually means to be in these sub movements education is the priority here right so with that incredibly painful substitute teacher esque motivational speech Let's Get get on to

31:28 the conclusion I feel like the rise of posers in subcultures you know characters like tx2 Shannon Blake that are clearly there to secure the bag they truly like highlight the complex interplay between like authenticity commercialization and like inclusivity like they still have a place within the communities in some way that way being obvious signpost that people should be like oh Punk oh hippie and then forget about them completely but remember about punks and hippie while these posers I'm sorry to call you poser I feel like I'm a gay keeping weirdo now but while these posers do bring real new visibility and attention to these movements they often do so at the cost of misunderstanding or misinterpreting and you know diluting

32:13 the core values I suppose like the challenge for the real genuine member of these movements is like to find the balance between maintaining the Integrity of their communities and welcoming in New well-intentioned individuals so you know the curious person that may have got the t-shirt from Hot Topic but does really want to learn more and then may in a couple months they ain't wearing top topic anymore no no my friend they're making it themselves or they're commissioning someone on Etsy a small business to make the DIY clothing small businesses that's still pretty DIY ethos right supporting your fellow friend yippee but basically what I'm trying to say is like by fostering a deeper understanding of the philosophies Behind These subcultures we can I think move towards a more

32:59 inclusive and authentic representation of these movements on social media yes that that's that's what I'm saying on that I think poses it's a complex one with lots of nuance if someone calls you a poser online chances are you're not a posed you're just trying to learn don't feel threatened by them remember this is a very online take about all of this considering everything if you want to express yourself as a goth Emo or Punk or whatever you buy some clothes and it makes you feel good and that's all about your journey of self- exloration and finding your true authentic self do it Champion yourself it's 99% likely that no one will ever say anything to you in person and be like can you get out your punk card and if someone does do that to you it reflects more about them than it does you go out there and live your true

33:44 self just if you are going to be a big content creator on the internet think about the totality of your words and what they represent but for the regular normal person go out there have fun and do your best and I've been your boy C's life so let's get the comment section going I want to hear from people from all of these movements I'm always so interested I know I've been doing a lot of videos on subcultures right now I'm just so fixated on it I love just the conversations I'm having with all these different people from all different walks of life it's so interesting to hear these different views and opinions and it's fun and in the case of like what you think it means to be Punk or what youan think it means to be goth or what you think it means to be Emo I know there's a core values like the music and the DIY ethos but around that there's so much room for interpret a and I just love hearing everyone's thoughts and

34:29 opinions so let's get that comment section going let's talk I'll be in the comment section discussing it all with you there'll be another video essay here if you want to watch another one of my videos and I shall see you in the comment section and in the next video okay bye