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0:00 Hello, welcome to More Faith with Kesha. My first name is Kesha and my last name is more. And on this channel, we talk all things most things faith. I love to give my faith testimonies to motivate, inspire, and to encourage you to keep the faith in your dreams, in your goals, in your aspirations, and most importantly to keep your faith in God in the name of Jesus. So today, I want to talk about hate in the church. Okay? hating the church. Now, when I say hating the church, just keep in mind everyone in the church is not bad. Every pastor is not bad. Every choir member is not bad. So, this is not a reflection on the church in totality. This is specific
0:47 individuals that's probably not even of God and sent by the enemy to destroy the church. So, let me be very specific because I don't believe in that bashing the church and making it seem like everything about the church is bad just because of a few individuals. But this is just my experience based on one individual. And I just want to give this testimony because I feel like pastors sometimes you put people in authority. You give them roles and titles, but sometimes those are the ones that are pushing your members away. And you wonder why the members are leaving. And that's the reason why because it's the people you put in authority. It's the leadership. You know, those are the people that you entrusted. So when something happens in the church, you know, people are going
1:34 to look at you. It's going to sometimes be a reflection of you because you didn't handle it. Stop putting your friends and people you've known in a long time in leadership roles when God didn't tell you to do that. Take out and this video is like this is not what I planned on talking about, but I'm just going to flow with the Holy Spirit and talk about that. You need to pray and seek God on who you put as an associate pastor, as a deacon, who you let sing in the choir, youth ministers, you need to pray and that it should be a decision that is led by God. And that's the reason you need discernment. What I've experienced is there was a particular church that I was going to here in Atlanta area and I long no longer go to
2:22 that church but I noticed that everyone in a leadership role was either they were close to the pastors or they had been to the church for a long time. So they were associate pastors, they were elders and deacons. And I don't like to I'm not judging, but some of them I can see that during that season, they were not called by God. I'm just going to call it out. Right? And when you hear the pastor speak about them, oh, I've been knowing this person for a long time and this person has been a member of the church for a long time. So now you're selecting people based upon how long you've known them and how long they've been a member. But that has nothing to do with
3:07 God. Yes, it's good that they establish stability, credibility to a certain extent in the church, but a lot of times people will show you what they want to show you on the front line, but on the backline, they're a different person and you can't even see it because you're blinded by the friendship. You're blinded by your loyalty. You cannot be more loyal to your friend than you are to God. And if God is telling you to demote that person from the church, you need to do you need to do it. You need to pay attention to God. You need to be obedient to God because it's not about creating this um click here, you know, this Christian Christianity click where everybody is friends and we hanging out this and that. Sometimes you have to disconnect and you are the shepherd of
3:53 the sheep. So if God entrusted you to shepherd his sheep, his sheep, you are responsible if you are putting people in a leadership role or position and they're hurting your sheep. So again, video detour, but I believe that this is for someone. You need to pray about those people that you put in a leadership role that are doing things behind the scene, that are participating in witchcraft, that are participating in fornication, that are cheating on their wives, that are hurting your members. You need to pray about that. Take out the time. Take three days or whatever it
4:40 takes. Fast from everything so that you can clearly hear what God is telling you. And I believe that you have a certain discernment where you feel like something is not right, but you don't know how to shift away. But if you want to grow spiritually, if you want to please God, you're going to have to make those tough decisions. It's not always easy to make the decision to tell your friend that has been an associate pastor or you know that has been the choir director for all these years that God is telling you to tell them to step down. No, it's not going to be easy. But at the end of the day, do you want to please man or do you want to please God? Because you're going to have to stand before God one day and you're going to have to give an account for everything that God for every soul that
5:26 God has entrusted you with. Do you want the blood to be on your hands? I've experienced things in church where the pastors was good. Now, they were nice, but I noticed that some of the leadership, they were toxic. They were very toxic. I remember I was going to this church and it was this lady. She was married. She had two sons. This lady did not like me. Never had a conversation with her. Didn't even know her. Never did anything to her. But I could just sense her spirit. She didn't like me because she would speak to my husband, but she would never speak to me. And whenever we would like cross, she would roll her eyes at me in the
6:13 church. And she was somebody that was in a leadership position as well. So, you can just feel that. I just felt that negative energy on her spirit. And I'm like, "Okay, how are you speaking to somebody's husband, but you can't speak to them?" And keep in mind, like I said, this lady was married and she had children. And I just ignore that cuz it's like I don't I don't come to church for that. And the reason I still went to church because that's not a reflection of God. I don't let man keep me from praise and worshiping my God. And again, sometimes pastors don't know because they don't see everything. People put up fronts and they show the pastor one thing, but that's not who they truly are. And pastors, that's why
6:59 you need discernment. You need to pray and ask God to give you another level um to increase your your discernment. And what you're feeling in your heart is true about those people. So, you need to correct that. So, this particular lady did not like me, just always rude. She was in a leadership role. And I remember I um I talked about this in a few videos. I used to bake. Um I had a business, Create Your Own Cake Bakery. I opened up a little cupcake kiosk in the mall, Northridge, California. And one day I'm at the mall and everybody knew that I opened it up. It was a lot of people in church that came and supported. So everybody wasn't, you know, hating or whatever. You, like I said, you just have those few individuals. It was a lot of people from the church that came, they supported,
7:45 they purchased some things. You know, it was a blessing. But that one particular lady, one day I'm sitting and I look up. Do you know that this lady that from the church that never speaks to me, that's always rolling her eyes, always speaking to my husband and look at me and don't say anything, comes and starts looking at my booth and like walks by. So she basically came to just observe. She's probably a witch. You don't know what she was actually coming and praying against or whatever. didn't speak to me, didn't say anything to me, looked around and then left. And this is a person that's in leadership role at
8:32 church. That is the reason most of the time during prayer I never go to the altar for prayer because not everyone is like that. There are a select few that I don't trust to put their hands on me or to pray for me. And when you go up in that line, sometimes you never know who you going to get. And sometimes people don't understand, you know, you you just got to go up. Let your pride decide. No, I need to be careful and be mindful of who's laying hands on me because you're not transferring those spirits on me. Especially if I'm seeing that you don't like me and I'm seeing how you moving, right? Don't let church hurt stop you from having a relationship
9:21 with God. I still continue my relationship with God despite how people certain individuals in leadership treated me because they need to answer to God. They will have to answer to God. That is not a reflection of God. God is love. God is peace. God is comforting. God is welcoming. And again, God didn't call those people to leadership. Because you hear some people say, "Well, if God is all these things, then why would God didn't call them to leadership? God didn't tell them to be laying hand. They shouldn't even be there. The pastors didn't have discernment. The pastor selected them based on the outer appearance, but God
10:07 knows the heart. That's the reason. So, don't let church hurt stop you from keeping a relationship from um having and developing a relationship with God because you will have to give an account of what you did and didn't do as well. We all will have to do that. I cannot go before God on judgment day and say that I rejected you. I rejected what you told me to do because of so and so because they did this and they did that to me. So as a result I rejected you God. No I want to hear well done my good and faithful servant.
10:53 So despite how people have treated me in the church leadership, some pastors, I've been blessed. I've I've had some good pastors um in the past. So it's not like I just, you know, have had bad experiences with pastors or whatever. I had one again here in Atlanta. I didn't even know, but that's another story. Stay tuned. I'm going to talk about I'm going make some videos about that. but um some California pastors which I've had some really really good experiences. So this is not a reflection of every church. So even if you're watching you're like I used to go to her church. I minister to her. Is she talking about me? Probably not. Maybe I am. I don't know. So it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Uh
11:39 yeah. So church hurt. Don't let church hurt stop you from having a relationship with God. Stay in prayer. Read the word of God. God will guide you to where he wants you to go, where he wants you to be. And again, for the pastors, make the correction. There's too many sheep that are getting struck with hurt because lack of discernment from pastors because pastors don't want to make the decision to do what God told them to do and remove some people from the roles that they that they put them in. or even if God told
12:26 them, seasons change, people change and their heart changes. Maybe 10 years ago they were a different person. Maybe they were pure. Maybe they were on fire for God and they they were really authentic and sincere and praying for people and yeah, God told you to put them in that that leadership role, but maybe now it's different. So, you just have to learn how to pivot and don't wait too long to pivot when God is telling you to move. If this makes sense, so be it. If it doesn't, I feel like it does. I feel like this is going to be for someone. Maybe not all of you who are watching, but I feel like it's going to be for someone. So, God bless you. Like, comment, subscribe. Stay blessed. Bye.
