What makes a good teacher great? | Azul Terronez | TEDxSantoDomingo

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Brief Summary

The speaker discusses the importance of listening to students to understand what makes a good teacher great. They share anecdotes and insights gathered from 26,000 student responses across various schools. The speaker emphasizes that schools often avoid asking students for feedback due to fear, but by truly listening, educators can transform schools and education.

  • Students want teachers to be learners alongside them.
  • Great teachers connect with students beyond the classroom.
  • Listening is a crucial skill that is often overlooked in education.

The Question and the Fear

The speaker is fascinated by the question of what makes a good teacher great and has collected 26,000 responses from students in various schools. Despite 24 years of teaching, the speaker remains perplexed by the question. Schools are often afraid to ask this question because they don't take kids seriously.

Eating Apples: A Symbol of Connection

One profound answer the speaker received was "A great teacher eats apples." Initially dismissing it as silly, the speaker noticed it appearing frequently. The speaker started eating apples in front of students and realized that the apple symbolized the relationship between the teacher and students, representing a willingness to receive a gift from them, signifying goodness and trust.

Understanding Student Language

Students have their own language and ways of thinking. For example, when students say "A great teacher is chill," they mean teachers should be calm and not get overwhelmed. Kids want adults to understand their perspective but also want them to provide safety and protection. Adults often don't take the time to listen and understand students' communication.

Teachers as Learners

A common response to what makes a good teacher great is that "A great teacher loves to teach," followed by "A great teacher loves to learn." Students want to see teachers learning alongside them, but they often don't. Schools typically hire teachers as content experts rather than learners. Teachers should show up in the classroom ready to learn with their students.

Beyond the Classroom

Students believe that "A great teacher isn't a teacher" in the traditional classroom sense. Enduring understanding comes from experiences outside the classroom, like learning to ride a bike. The speaker contrasts learning to ride a bike through experience versus a classroom setting, where it would involve lectures, research papers, and exams. This illustrates how traditional teaching methods can be ineffective and disengaging.

Yvette's Story: Understanding Students' Lives

Students want teachers to understand they have lives outside of school. The speaker shares a story about a student named Yvette, who had a tough exterior and stopped turning in homework. The speaker learned that Yvette's electricity was turned off, making it difficult for her to do homework. This experience taught the speaker the importance of listening and understanding students' struggles.

The Teacher Sings

The speaker shares a story about the response "A great teacher sings," which they found perplexing. After a student named Danny submitted this response, the speaker decided to sing the daily agenda in an operatic style. The students responded with cheers and a standing ovation. This taught the speaker that great teachers make themselves humble, take risks, and trust their students.

The Importance of Listening

The speaker suggests hiring teachers who deeply understand students rather than just content. Despite spending years teaching students to read and write, schools dedicate virtually no time to formal listening instruction. Listening is a crucial skill for business and life, yet it is often overlooked in education. By listening to students, we can transform schools and education.

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0:00 Translator: Kesmat El Deeb Reviewer: Riaki Poništ I'm obsessed with the question: "What makes a good teacher great?" I've collected 26,000 responses to this question, in eight different schools, from the poorest schools in Los Angeles, to suburban schools in Texas, to elite private schools abroad. And after 24 years of teaching students, I'm still perplexed by this question.

0:46 Today, I'm going to teach you the lessons I learned from those thousands of students, and learn what I found out from them if we just listen to students. The thing about it is that during my time of asking kids this question, I realized that we don't ask this question for a particular reason: schools are afraid. Based on fear, they don't really want to know what kids think. Partially because they don't think kids will take it serious. I'm going to share with you one of the most profound quotes, answers to this question that I've ever received. [A great teacher eats apples] (Laughter) Now, I know what you're thinking. Doesn't this prove my point?

1:32 "Great teachers eat apples." When I first saw this, I dismissed it as silliness, but it appeared again and again. So I thought, "There's got to be something to this, but what are they trying to tell me?" So one day, I decided I would start eating apples. I ate them in the morning, at lunch, during class, in the hall. Kids began to give me apples. The'd see me eating them and say, "You're eating an apple!" "I know!" They would smile, and I would smile back. It wasn't until I understood that kids wanted to see me

2:18 as somebody who is willing to receive a gift from them, that the apple was a symbol for our relationship. There was goodness in that, and trust. But for a long time, I wasn't listening and I hadn't understood this. [A great teacher is chill] They have their own language. When they say, "A great teacher is chill," what they really mean is: "Don't take it too serious. Be calm in all situations. Don't get overwhelmed." (Laughter) They have a way of speaking to us about what they really want to tell us, but we have to listen. Right? I'm the father of two grown kids.

3:04 They're out of school now and in college. But when they were at home and they were teenagers, I had to learn a whole new language. When they would come home from school, I might ask them: "How was your day?" and they would say, "Fine," which usually meant: "It was not bad. It was pretty good. Nothing happened eventful. I probably learned something. Maybe I didn't." But if they came home and said, "Fine," what they meant was: "It wasn't really great, but don't ask me, because you wouldn't understand anyways." If I asked them how their day was and they said "OK," what they were trying to tell me was: "It wasn't good at at all, and you should probably ask me more questions,

3:52 but don't expect me to answer." (Laughter) Kids have their own language; they have their own way of thinking. They want us to think like them and understand what's inside of their head. They have so many ways of thinking that things are great. They want us to see their world inside of them. But they don't want us to act like them; they want us to be calm and protect them and keep them safe. Kids have a way of communicating, and adults just haven't spent the time listening. But what if we did? What if we really listen deeply to students? One of the things I noticed after all the years of collecting these responses

4:37 is that there is patterns that emerge. When I asked the question of what makes a good teacher great, oftentimes I heard, "A great teacher loves to teach." 70 percent of the time, the quote or the answer that followed was: "A great teacher loves to learn." The reason this is significant is they don't see this happening. They don't see teachers learning in front of them. They see them teaching, but they wish they would learn along with them. Think about it. Principals hire teachers to be content experts, to have all of the knowledge, not to be learners. But what if they did? What if you showed up in the classroom, and the teacher had something prepared,

5:24 said, "I don't know exactly what we're going to do today, but I can't wait to learn with you." Or that they saw their teacher struggle through something they didn't actually know and then eventually discover the answer. Kids want to be inspired by this idea that learning is important. But they don't see it in schools. [A great teacher isn't a teacher] When I saw this quote: "A great teacher isn't a teacher," I actually was a little bit offended. "What do you mean?! I'm a teacher!" They're like, "We know." What they were trying to tell me is: a great teacher isn't in the classroom. Think about it. Think about a time that you have some enduring understanding, a time when you learned something

6:09 that you still remember and you use to this day, like throwing a baseball or riding a bike. I remember learning to ride a bike from my mom when I was five years old. She took off the training wheels of my bike, she got behind me, and began to push. And we ran, and we ran, until she finally let go, and I began to ride a bike. That's what I did; that's how I learned to ride a bike. I can still ride a bike to this day from that moment. But can you imagine if I tried to learn to bike from my mom in a classroom, what it would look like? [Copy this Bike riding 101] (Laughter) "Son, first, you need to learn all the parts of a bike.

6:54 There's the pedals and the crank, and there's a chain that turns the wheel. You have to have a significant force; once the force has enough momentum, you can keep your balance. That's how a bike works. I want you to learn all the parts, be able to label them and draw them. Then you're going to learn and write a research paper about the history of bike riding. (Laughter) All the important elements, the adventure, the development of bikes. And at the end of that, you're going to take a final examination. If you pass and get an A, you can ride a bike. (laughter) At five years old, I think I would've said, "Never mind, I'll just walk." (Laughter) This is exactly what we do to children.

7:39 We put them in a classroom and tell them, "This is what I want you to learn. It's important. Do it." And kids know that it's not true, that we don't really value learning this way. So no wonder they're disruptive, or bored, or disengaged. Kids want us to be teachers that aren't teachers. I want to tell you a story about Yvette. "A great teacher understands that they have a life outside of school." They really do. They want us to know that their life in school is way more different than the life outside of school. I just thought, "Well, how hard is your life? Your job is to do school; my job is to teach."

8:28 Yvette was a tough student, She was feisty, and she had an infamous reputation. She walked around with a jacket to prove it. Whenever she walked around, the kids would follow. She would come in and sit in the front row and lean just so that she can have eye contact to intimidate me. She would call me "mister" and not even use my full name. When she'd get up to go to the bathroom, all the girls would follow. Eventually, I learnt from Yvette what she needed to learn. And I thought I became pretty good at what I was doing. I noticed one day, she stopped turning in her homework. She had become a great leader in the classroom: she turned in her homework, she participated in class;

9:16 she actually was quite good. So when this happened, I was surprised. So I went up to her and said, "Yvette, I'm very disappointed in you." She said, "I know mister; I'm sorry." "I expect it turned in tomorrow." Tomorrow came, and just a few sheets of unfinished work were turned in. I also went up to her and said, "Yvette, this is disappointing." She said, "I normally do my homework in the bathroom because it's the quietest place in my house, but this week the electricity was turned off, and it's dark in there. I had a candle, but it burned out.

10:01 And I'm sorry." She gazed down, not her prideful self. I had missed the point. I had not listened when she said, "I'm trying, mister." I heard the words, but I didn't listen. Great teachers notice when there's a struggle. They don't make assumptions about what kids can and cannot do. They wait and watch, and they rescue them when they're stuck. Good teachers hear them, but they don't listen. I'll never forget Yvette, and I'm grateful because whenever I see an answer of a student like that, I remember her, and I listen. [A great teacher sings] This was the most perplexing answer I think I ever received.

10:51 It happened every year for ten years; at least one student would put this. "A great teacher sings." What are they talking about? I can't sing. So I started thinking, "Wait a second. What do they mean?" It wasn't until Danny turned it in as one of his responses. He was the class clown. You know he was the one that when we took the class picture, he put ear fingers behind your head. He would make faces at me during lectures so I would laugh. Everything was a joke to Danny. So, when he turned in his responses, and they were all serious and actually really good, I was surprised when this showed up in the middle.

11:36 But I knew there was something to it; I just didn't know what. So the next day, I put the agenda on the board, listing all the activities of the day, the expectations, and the homework. And instead of actually reading them, very seriously, I sang, (Laughter) in an operatic style, big as I could. The eyes of the students were wide, their mouths dropped. (Laughter) But you know what happened at the end of that? I expected pointing and laughing. But the classroom erupted in cheers and applause. There was a standing ovation. I could not believe it.

12:21 At the end of class, they walked out, gave me high fives and handshakes, and here came Danny. He walked in, and he leaned in, and patted me on the shoulder, and said, "I told you a great teacher sings." (Laughter) (Applause) Great teachers make themselves humble before their students. They take risks. They put aside their fear to try. They trust that they are going to be supported if they fail. But they don't see this; they see experts, remember? Content experts. What if we hire teachers not to be deep understanders of content, knowledge keepers,

13:09 but deep understanders of students? How our schools would change and transform? But it's no wonder students don't care or that teachers don't really listen. Because they have never been taught. But what if we did listen? You see, we spend three years of a student's life, teaching students to read. About 12 years of those students' lives, teaching them to write. Maybe if they're lucky, they get a semester or half a year learning to public speak. But they get virtual zero years of formal listening instruction.

13:55 Zero. Think about it. When was the last time you were at a dinner party, and someone asked a question: "So what do you do for a living?" and the response was, "Oh, I'm a listening teacher. I teach advanced listening at the high school events, listening communications, or beginning listener for elementary?" We don't hear this. Because we just don't believe that in schools it's important, though in the world, listening is one of the number one skills essential for business and life. And we just don't teach it. We need to listen to our students. In our classrooms are the future. The Maya Angelous, the Mother Theresas, the Elon Musks of the world.

14:41 And can you imagine if we took the time to ask those students, "What would make a good teacher great?" and then we actually listened, we could transform schools and education. Thank you. (Applause)

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