You Don’t Need to Choose—This Combo Builds Wealth Faster! | Grant Cardone

Brief Summary

The speaker discusses merging real estate and Bitcoin investments to create a diversified portfolio that leverages the strengths of both asset classes. They argue against viewing Bitcoin and real estate as mutually exclusive, advocating for their integration to capitalize on liquidity, stability, and growth potential. The speaker details their strategy of using real estate cash flow to acquire Bitcoin, aiming to create a unique investment product that combines the benefits of both worlds, and eventually taking it public.

  • Diversification through merging real estate and Bitcoin.
  • Leveraging real estate cash flow to invest in Bitcoin.
  • Creating a unique, publicly traded investment product.

Introduction: Bitcoin vs. Real Estate - Why Not Both?

The speaker opens by addressing the common debate in the Bitcoin community about whether Bitcoin or real estate is the better investment. They argue that this is the wrong question, suggesting that investors should consider integrating both asset classes into their portfolios. The speaker shares their experience from a space where they advocated for including real estate, Bitcoin, and stocks in investment strategies, rather than pitting them against each other.

Merging Real Estate and Bitcoin: A Synergistic Approach

The speaker details their approach of merging real estate and Bitcoin investments, highlighting that their real estate holdings generate cash flow used to purchase Bitcoin. They emphasize the complementary nature of the two assets: real estate offers stability and low volatility, while Bitcoin provides liquidity and growth potential. The speaker points out that illiquidity can be beneficial for investors, preventing them from making hasty decisions, and that time can resolve many investment challenges, particularly in real estate and Bitcoin.

Cardone Capital: Integrating Assets into a Public Company

The speaker discusses their plan to integrate real estate and Bitcoin into a publicly traded company, Cardone Capital, to leverage the advantages of both asset classes and the stock market. They criticize the linear thinking that pits assets against each other, using the analogy of Coke versus Pepsi to illustrate that both can be viable options. The speaker highlights the benefits of real estate, such as leverage through loans, tax efficiency through depreciation, and equity principal paydown, which are not available in Bitcoin.

The Advantages of Combining Real Estate and Bitcoin

The speaker explains that real estate offers leverage, tax efficiency through depreciation, and equity principal paydown, while Bitcoin does not. However, the cash flow from real estate can be used to buy more Bitcoin, creating a synergistic relationship. Both assets benefit from appreciation and the potential devaluation of the US dollar, while real estate also benefits from rent growth. The speaker dismisses the idea of solely investing in Bitcoin, emphasizing the importance of providing value through real estate, such as homes and jobs.

Creating a New Investment Product: Real Estate and Bitcoin

The speaker explains why they can't take a Bitcoin-only fund public but can create a new product by merging real estate and Bitcoin. They envision a long-term mortgage product that is friendly to both Bitcoin and real estate, potentially a 20 or 30-year mortgage that combines the strengths of both assets. This product would be designed to avoid margin calls and leverage the cash flow generated by the combined investments.

The Miami Deal: A Case Study

The speaker describes a recent deal in Miami, Florida, involving the purchase of 346 units for $122 million, with $15 million allocated to Bitcoin. The purchases are made in cash and placed into an LLC structure. The speaker then offers investment opportunities to their audience at the same price they paid. The speaker plans to create 12 such funds this year and merge them into a public company, anticipating a double or triple increase in valuation.

Fund Economics and Risk Mitigation

The speaker discusses the economics of the fund, explaining that adding a Bitcoin component can increase the internal rate of return from 15-18% to 35-45% with minimal risk. They emphasize that the real estate provides a safety net, even if Bitcoin were to drop to zero. The speaker highlights that this approach is attracting individuals who are new to Bitcoin, as they are investing in real estate that, in turn, invests in Bitcoin.

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0:00 In the Bitcoin community, there's a raging debate. Which is better, Bitcoin or real estate? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's the wrong question, dude. You know what? This is what got me into it. I was in a on a on X on a space. Yeah. A lot of spaces. And the debate, they had me in it. I was the real estate guy. And the debate was real estate, Bitcoin, or stocks. And I'm like, guys, what about all three of them? Why not have them all? Like, we have figured out how to take our real estate. We're on our fourth fund about $300 million worth of real estate and $45 million almost $50 million worth of Bitcoin. We merge the two together and the real estate continues to buy real uh uh Bitcoin every month out of the cash flow. We have best-in-class real estate

0:45 with best-in-class money Bitcoin. One's liquid, one's not. One has volatility, one has zero. Like real estate is so boring. It has a zero volatility, right? Okay. It never has any problems until the debt market has problems and you know one has tremendous liquidity, one doesn't. Not most of the people in this room cannot handle liquidity. Like ill illlquid would be better for most of the investors here than liquidity. Why is that? Because when I'm illquid, I don't get rid of my investment. I don't I'm like, bro, I'm not getting rid of it. You hold. I hold. Yeah. And time heals all problems. as long as you have enough time particularly in real estate and and it benefits uh uh Bitcoin as well because if you had 13 years nobody's lost money.

1:31 Yeah. But the same thing could be said about great real estate. The Vatican is worth more money today despite the Pope's come and go and wars and economies and dollars. The Vatican is still there and it's it's bringing in more bank today than it did a thousand years ago. Yeah. So, uh, if you can if you can merge the two together and then become a stock, which is what Cardone Capital is going to be. That's why I wore the ad right there. Um, then I have the best of the real estate, I have the best of the Bitcoin, and I have the best of being a public company traded on the stock market. Yeah. So, when people try to frame it up that way, then they're thinking too linear. Like, they're trying to pit two against each other, and they're thinking like, well, which one's going up faster? But it's not about that, right? Because well it doesn't have to be that unless you're going to have that conversation. You

2:17 know what's better? Coke or Pepsi? Neither one of them. I mean they're both terrible for you. Yeah. So so uh but with but with real estate we get the leverage because we have we have the loan. Yeah. We have tax efficiency because we can get we can depreciate the asset, right? We get equity principal payown by somebody else. You don't get that in Bitcoin. You don't get that Bitcoin. And then with the cash flow you efficiency I gain. I get more after tax dollars to buy more Bitcoin. That's right. Right. So, and both benefit from appreciation, both benefit from uh from the destruction of the US dollar. The the real estate benefits from rent growth. That doesn't happen with Bitcoin. So, that's why I'm saying that if you could figure out how to get them both. I had a guy tell me, he's like, "Grant, if you'd have taken your $5.2 billion and only own Bitcoin, you'd be

3:04 worth $20 billion." I'm like, "Yeah, what's the point, bro? like you're telling me to get rid of a business to have a different business. Like I don't need to do that. I need to figure out how to merge the two together. The other thing I like about what your angle is as well that I'm hearing from you anyway is that it's also a business that's providing value. Like you're providing homes for people. And at the end of the day, financial markets are great to make money, but there's not really a lot of value that's being provided there. And so we still need people to provide value to the world, give jobs, provide homes, things like that. I can't take a Bitcoin only fund public. So like why why would I like it doesn't make any sense but I could take a real estate and Bitcoin merge them together and become a new product. I could offer a I could see in the future I've already met with Fanny and Freddy uh and the

3:51 head of FHF FA and said, "Hey guys, they're gonna be a long-term 20-year mortgage product." Yeah. That is Bitcoin and real estate friendly, not a margin call. Could be a long-term it could be a 30-year mortgage on those two combined as long as you have cash flow with the with with the two of best two best worlds combined. So, can we talk about the deal? So, you have a deal that you've recently announced that you I believe you're then putting the cash flows into Bitcoin. Is that right? That's right. So none of the financing or debt is going into Bitcoin. Just the cash flows from the project are going into Bitcoin. We're we're paying cash for both. Okay. So you've raised money to go buy a No, we got money. So we buy it off of my my balance sheet. Okay. So I'll buy We're doing a deal right now. It's $122 million combined. Okay. It'sund and where where is this? It's Miami, Florida, Miami River. I'll send

4:38 you the pictures of it. Uh it's 346 units. It's 122 million combined. 107 plus 15 million in Bitcoin. We pay cash for both. We close and we drop it into an LLC structure. So, and I go to my audience say, "Would you like to invest in this?" They invested the same price I did. All the money comes in, part of the money comes in or no money comes in. It doesn't matter to me. I'm buying it anyway. And then what we do is we put that in a fund. Now, I've done four this year. I'm going to do another eight. I'm gonna have a total of 12. Okay? and then I'm going to take them merge them together in a public company and bring it to the market. Well, talk to me about and then we think we get a double or a triple in the valuation. So, you're buying real estate and Bitcoin together

5:23 and putting them both together in a fund that then people can invest into. And so, what do you expect for the economics of that fund? So, if I'm buying a traditional real estate fund, I'm getting a 8% preferred. Maybe I'm getting a 20% IRR, but if I put a Bitcoin kicker in, then I get a much bigger upside potential. go from what's considered a 15 to 18% internal rate of return to 35 to 45%. With zero risk, I mean, as close to zero as you can get. I'm not losing the real estate. I have no mortgage on it. I guess Bitcoin could go to zero, but somewhere down to zero, somebody's buying it. Yeah. So, I don't know how it gets to zero, but even if it did, I still have my real estate, right? So, I I have a no loss situation. The the the cool thing is we're we're onboarding people that have never considered

6:08 Bitcoin. They've heard about it, but they haven't bought any because they don't feel like they're buying the Bitcoin. They're buying the real estate that buys their Bitcoin, right?

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