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0:00 I ended up aspirating in a bathroom. I collapsed on the floor in that bathroom. I started to vomit. That suffocated me and ended [music] my life right there. >> There was no heartbeat. And I'm just going to say that again, there was no heartbeat. >> All of a sudden, I was above what looked like my body, but I started to witness this experience, this life from a different perspective. >> It wasn't until this rookie paramedic said, "I know he's still in there." And he started doing the shock treatment. >> at first he must be God. He responded to me just direct [music] my consciousness. He said, "No, son, I'm not God." >> Darkness or light while you're on the other side? >> Time is actually a toroidal field, but if you stay in it long enough, you end
0:46 back where you started. I felt as if the universe wrapped around my umbilical cord and yanked me back. I was also crossing dimensions and crossing [music] what felt like stargates. >> [music] [sighs] >> Vinny Toleman, welcome on Just Happen, brother. What are you most excited about right now globally and in your life? >> I am excited so much about our future
1:31 as a species, as beings, as this planet is very excited about where where we're going to go, whether we like it or not. >> Whether we like it or not. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Because it's interesting you started off with that because well, we were we will give context. You had sort of a little bit of a tourist visa of heaven. Uh in 20 2003. >> Mhm. >> Uh when you were clinically dead for 47 minutes, in a coma for 3 days. But also while you were in that
2:17 experience, while you were in the other side, you got a glimpse of what the earth would look like in 30 to 50 years. We'll go really deep in that today. But I wanted just to set the scene, set the stage as to what happened to you when you went on on the other side uh after taking this you know, muscle enhancer uh supplement that you had from Thailand. And then went to Dairy Queen. What happened What happened up to that point? >> Well, I uh ended up taking a a very strong version of this supplement that I didn't know existed. And um I ended up aspirating in a bathroom. So, I I I collapsed on the floor in that
3:02 bathroom. And I while I was laying on my back, I started to vomit. And it was that vomit that that suffocated me. And ended my life right there. And that's that's where my my story and my kind of the adventure begins for me is I thought that I was my body. And all of a sudden, I was above what looked like my body, but I didn't think was my body anymore. Because I was up above it. And I I started to witness this experience, this life from a different perspective. And um have my transformational experience.
3:54 And along the way you were greeted by someone that called himself Drake. Who was that person? >> So, he I thought at first he he must be God and as soon as I I had that thought he responded to me just direct to my consciousness. He said, "No, son, I'm not God." And he explained that he was my guide. He was there to take me to go wherever I wanted to go and I could go anywhere in the universe. And I felt so much love coming from this being from this I don't even like to call him a man cuz he was much more than a man. Um I felt so much love from him
4:42 and I asked him "Can I go where that love is coming from?" Cuz I knew that he was a conduit of that love and not the source of it. It was it was more powerful than you could you could even receive from a single being. And he said, "Yeah, that's coming from our home." And so he he took me on this journey to go to our home. Yeah, and you know what what in religion we call heaven or nirvana or uh Valhalla or one of these, you know, higher vibrational spaces that religion talks about. And we started this journey to go home. And and I thought for sure that there would be some special door
5:28 for my belief system that allowed me access and that's when um you know, Drake who turn who ended up be turning out to be my great great great grandfather. Um on my grandmother's side which I I didn't find out any of that until 6 months after the whole experience was over. Um but he he began to to hold energetically hold my hand and sometimes physically hold my hand uh along this journey of expansion and vibration going to a higher love space and a higher love understanding so that we could go home. Yeah.
6:16 >> And before Drake could take you on into the, you know, other side heaven there was almost a whole journey that you underwent, lessons that you had to learn before fully giving yourself over to this love and then eventually as we have you here today in the physical, come back into your body. What were some of those initial questions? I know a huge one had to do around authenticity that you were sort of led to in this understanding with your guide. >> Yeah, authenticity um was taught to me by him that to be the foundational principle for our existence here. That I know that it's a lot of us don't identify that
7:01 but when you when you understand why it's so important, you understand that uh finding out who you really are and allowing that version of you to exist here you're able to grow and learn in ways that you can never do otherwise. And it's it's, you know, kind of like building a a house of cards. Uh it's easy to collapse that house of cards and I thought for sure, you know, I was only 25 when this happened I thought for sure at 25 I was authentic and he showed me that I I had many different masks that I would wear no matter who I was with. And uh and he helped me understand who I
7:46 really was was this almost childlike figure inside of all these masks. And that I wasn't putting up the masks because my friends, my loved ones, my family even were requiring it of me. I was doing it because I thought that's what they wanted. And he taught me how to put down my masks. He taught me how to love that inner child, that child that thought they needed to put up the masks. And in that space where I learned to embrace that version of me or the authentic version of me then we began our journey. But until I could until I could even reach inward and identify that side of me or that aspect
8:33 of me I couldn't even move with him until I did so. That was that was where it all began was embracing that authentic self. Which is which is like a a energetic 6-year-old, 5 or 6-year-old, you know? That's that's where we start putting up the masks is about 6-years-old. >> Mhm. So, would you say that who we really are is this energetic 5-6-year-old that then acquires more knowledge, wisdom, labels throughout our journey and that energetic being is still there even on the other side when we pass on? >> 100% 100%. And if you if you look back
9:20 at who someone is when they are that 5-year-old uh that's essentially who we are in our heart. You know, all along the way we will grow up a an adult body suit around that 5-year-old, but we're still that five-year-old inside. That's that's that's the the side of us that seeks to cope and and seek love and seek identification and seek resolvement and seek fulfillment. It's just that that five-year-old inside of us. That's who you really are. Yeah. >> And I know there was a moment in your journey which was actually before we go into that, let me
10:05 ask you, you know, you were in a coma for 3 days before the medics showed up at the restaurant. You know, you it had already been about an hour and 47 minutes where there was no heartbeat. And I'm just going to say that again, there was no heartbeat. Um it wasn't until this rookie paramedic said, "I know he's still in there." And he started doing the shock treatment. And then there was a heartbeat all of a sudden. How long did it feel that you were there on the other side? But in linear terms, it had only been 3 days. >> Yeah, it it it's funny because time is a a really funny thing. It doesn't exist.
10:52 It really doesn't exist. Time is like a measuring stick for Earth or for Earth life. And you know, I've I've talked to physicists about this. How I felt like it could have been weeks that I was on the other side. But I also feel like it could have been >> [snorts] >> days, which it was days. You know, in the linear time of of things, it was 3 days that I was on the other side while I was in my coma. Um but it it did feel like so much longer than days. And at the same at the same rate, it felt uh so fulfilling to be there even a moment.
11:41 It's It's the hardest thing for our our human to understand is there's there's so much love energy on the other side for us that whether it's 5 minutes or 5 days, it's just absolutely amazing. And and it's worth this journey. It is. It's kind of a a hard thing to to have a human experience here. And um a lot of the universe wants to do it. But not all the universe gets to do it. And um there's reward for that. And part of that reward is this love that you you meet as soon as you exit, soon as you allow your consciousness to leave. >> Hello, beautiful family. Quick one
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13:15 this community. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being who you are and being pure love and radiating that with everyone that you see. Back to the episode. When were When were some times where you felt something similar to that love that you felt when you passed over here on Earth? What were some of those times where you felt that love or at least gotten as close to it as you could? >> Yeah, that that love it it gets close to it or or you see a version of it when you have children.
14:00 When you see your child uh growing up and identifying and fulfilling the things that you've tried to help teach them and and still though, it's just a a small reflection of that love. There's nothing here, truly nothing that is even a percentage of that love. That love's so so strong that um it's kind of like uh holding up a flashlight and comparing it to the sun. They're just vastly different. And our greatest experiences here are like the flashlight
14:45 and the sun is the love that we have over there. Yeah. >> Mhm. Beautiful. I know that Drake couldn't really take you on further in the journey until you understood why you came to this Earth in the first place, why we choose to come here to this plane of existence. Um what were some of the things that he relayed to you that helped you understand why not just you but all of us choose to come down here or up here, wherever it is in the multi-dimensional existence of the of these planes. >> Yeah, we um we want to know
15:33 um essentially what it's like to be without our creator and and it's it's one of these interesting things where when we're with our source, when we're in our our source space we're in such synchronization, such syncopation to that love frequency, anything that that frequency wants, we also want. And it's hard for us to distinguish um self-identity at all. In fact, it's it's kind of like we're we're a molecule in the bowl of molecules there. And we want to have that separate consciousness to know what it
16:18 is. And it's part of the experience of of existence. But we can't do it while we're with source. We have to leave source and forget source. Because the the love is so strong that even if we remember source, it will influence so much of our life. So we have to come to this Earth school. And that's what what Jake called it. He says it's just a school. Earth is is essentially like a grad school for souls. And we come here. It's it is one of the hardest schools in in all the universe, in all existence. And we come here so that we can um forget who we are and forget where we
17:05 came from. And allow ourselves to have this blindness, this blind memory and blind vision to who we actually are so that we can see who we are. So that we can see who we are in as a collection of our choices, our decisions, our associations, the the amount of love and reflection of that love that we can carry here. Yeah. >> Mhm. What makes this one of the hardest schools? >> So, in in other schools, which there's a lot of other schools, there's there's innumerable. There's more schools than there are sands in the sea. There in the other schools, your your light
17:52 and your dark, your good, your bad, your duality is much tighter and closer. And from our earthly perspective, most other schools' bad is still better than our good. So, that's the kind of the odd thing. Here on Earth, though, what makes this one so hard is our good is so good, our bad is so bad. Our duality is so separate from each other and so opposite of each other that in Earth, if you decide to go into the light, into your good side, um you can you can be uh a purified being uh making a huge influence on the world.
18:40 But it at the same right, you can be this good being on Earth and still serve some of your shadow, still serve some of your dark side. Whereas in other schools, once you associate towards the light, you end up going like all the way into the light. Earth is one of the only places where you can be a really good person doing really good things, but also doing really bad things. And and the soul learns a lot from having that possibility. And it doesn't matter whether we embrace that possibility, but having that possibility is what allows us to learn and grow so much. It's kind of like going into a gym where the weights are heavier than they would normally be in other gyms. And the the rep or the
19:28 repetition of lifting that weight, you have to lift it a lot higher than you would have to in other gyms. You know, so it's it's it accentuates our ability to choose and our ability to associate towards darkness or light. >> How did you understand good deeds versus bad deeds or darkness versus light as you were also perceiving from another perspective. I know that once you crossed over, you were shown all of the bad things that you'd ever done in your life from your perspective and the perspective of those that were influenced by those actions or words.
20:14 How did you understand this difference between good, bad, um, you know, benevolence or evil, darkness or light while you're on the other side? >> Well, I I understood it right away that both had very strong divine purpose for us. That you know, for some of us to to embrace and engage our light, we first had to to um, essentially be swallowed up in our darkness. And almost like the effect of the egg, right? We had to go into our darkness to escape that darkness and really embrace our light. And I saw that
21:00 um, there was just as much power in our shadow as our light. And it was really important for us to feel the experience of both. And once we feel that experience, start to associate ourselves one direction or another. And I saw that some souls are coming here to associate towards their shadow, towards their darkness, on purpose to help a lot of us others to associate towards our light, towards our love. And it's almost as if on Earth there's some volunteer villains that come here. And they play the role that they're supposed to play. And and I feel like there's a lot of that going on on the world stage right
21:46 now. That a lot of the, you know, villains that we see out in the world, they're volunteers. And they're they're playing the role that they're supposed to play. >> Definitely agree with you there. >> [laughter] >> And one thing that that really, you know, opened my heart quite a lot when I listened to your story for the first time was you know, there was a moment where you started feeling this pull to come back. And the energy that was coming from that was a prayer from your brother. So, it was almost like this this brotherly love that, you know, he was
22:31 also transferring from the love that your mother had towards you into infuse into that prayer that instantly pulled you back in your body. What does that say about the connections that bind us in this life? And if you're to walk us through viscerally that experience of being pulled back into your body, what what was that like? >> Well, after I was there for 3 days, and I didn't know I was there for 3 days, but I was there for 3 days. And and I was in the middle of getting really excited about now this was going to be my my new home or my return home. And as all that's happening my guy, he came around and he said "Vinnie, this is going to be very hard, but it's going to be worth it."
23:18 And he put his arms around me. And and it's and to me I feel it wasn't just a metaphor of what he was doing. It was like he was preparing me for the return back to my body. He knew I was going back. I didn't know yet. But as he hugged me I felt the purest form of love that I have ever felt in existence. I felt the love that I didn't know was possible. I I felt so much love and as that love was was being shared with me in in what felt like a communion of light I started to hear a the prayer of my brother. And this prayer
24:04 it it was supremely powerful. It commanded me to return to my body. It commanded me to make my body whole to make it complete and with that amen that he he finished the prayer with I felt as if the universe wrapped around my umbilical cord and yanked me back. And that's what it felt like. And as in that process it did take a few hours. My brother had said that prayer at about 9:30, 10:00 at night and I woke up at 1:11 in the morning. So there was a few hours into it, but I was also crossing dimensions and crossing
24:50 what felt like stargates. It felt like I was going from this far off place, high vibrational space and back into this low vibrational space or existence on Earth. And as that's happening, I could feel all of these helpers. And you know, I couldn't see them directly, but I could feel them like going with me and helping me find my time. And that's what they did. They actually slotted me back into my time. And that time that they slotted me into was exactly 1:11 in the morning on January 21st, 2003 after I had, you know, been found dead
25:37 on January 18th. So, it's like they they really slotted me into this perfect time. And I now realize that that we are all part of this quantum fabric, that anything that affects one of us affects all of us. Anything, good or bad. If it affects one of us, it affects all of us in essence. And you know, I learned that so strongly by the prayer that my brother gave. I could feel his love for me, but more more strong than that love, I could feel the love he had for for my mom. And hoping that
26:22 that we we could make this right for her because she would be the one who would feel the suffering the most if she lost her son. Yeah. >> What's your relationship with your mom now? >> She's, you know, she passed in 2017. So, she's one of my angels. She is a big part of of why She She always told me um when she was alive, "Vinnie, you need to go out and share your story. People need to hear it." Um, and since she passed, she's been sharing it in places I didn't know were even possible. And
27:09 you know, one of the first messages she gave me after she crossed over is, "Don't worry about how, just show up. Just show up and be yourself. Be your authentic self and it's going to happen." And that's what I've been doing since, you know, she she had me sharing it the first time months after she passed. Just actually weeks after she passed. So, she was playing it even in her crossing, playing a divine role. And still does. She plays a divine role. She's She's like the quantum fabric in our family, still keeping all of us kids together. >> I love how you described it as they were
27:54 slotting you back into your timeline because I also know that when you were being slotted back in, you could see a huge timeline that also included our ancient past and our distant future. And so, I want to really go deep into what that was like to be able to see such a big gap in the fabric of time, uh, things that haven't happened in our present. You saw We'll talk about this, but you saw future cities. You saw, you know, the ways that, uh, the communities would behave between each other. You even saw different let's say, um, versions of Earth, uh, in that in that future timeline.
28:41 What was that experience like if we could just go really deep into, um, when you were being able to see this this this huge gap of time. >> Well, what's really cool is time I always I always imagine time was like a like a string or a line that things would happen in the past on one side of the line and things in the future would happen on the other side of the line. But, in watching how they had to slot me back into time I saw that time is actually a toroidal field which um actually have a apple here to show like what a toroidal field looks like. A toroidal a toroidal field is like an apple where the energy goes around and
29:26 goes in and it comes back up out the top. And that's what time is like. Time is this constantly revolving thing, but if you stay in it long enough, you end back where you started. So, it's it's more of a loop than anything. And what you can find is what we consider our ancient past if we look properly, we can see it as our distant future, too. So, so there's this really neat cycle about time as time is kind of like a boomerang. If you're on the boomerang long enough, you're back around where you began. Um, there's just so much space in that time
30:14 that most of us are crossing many many possibilities, many existences by the time that time has come back around. But, Earth itself is this divine tool. It's not just this school, it is a tool that allows the souls that go upon her to raise their vibration to such a space that they get to graduate with her as she has her own shedding as she has her own separation of new and old as she peels away an old an old shell and leaves that behind her her new shell that continues
30:59 forward. We get to go with her if we if we keep our vibration high enough. And that's that's what part of this journey is on Earth School is to be along for the full ride. And to be with this Mother Gaia, this Mother Earth through this journey and and if we can hold on a little bit longer, not not too much longer we're going to see the the beginnings of some of these cities happen and may even be full citizens of these communities, these cities of light. But we we essentially are in the middle of this complete shift right now where we stop associating with um governments, borders, and politics
31:45 and we shift more over towards um light associations, energetic associations. And in those spaces, it doesn't matter what country you're from, it doesn't matter um what political affiliation you've had in the past. What matters is how you treat each other how you communicate to each other, how you commune to each other. And um we start building communities of those associations in the beginning and those communities become cities, cities of light. Yeah. Me- meanwhile the rest of the world is kind of losing their stuff, but yeah. >> Yeah, let's go deeper into that that split that you were able to perceive or
32:30 witness. Um you you talked about how Earth is in a graduation process And that humanity is graduating with her as we choose to. And so, when you were witnessing, you know, you you even said I don't know exactly how long it was linearly, but it could have been anywhere in between 30 to 50 years in the future. Are you able to walk us through some specifics as to what emerged in those visions? Uh of what you were shown and and then we can also bridge the gra- gap of how do we get there, right? How do we get to these magnificent, beautiful cities, um heart-based connections?
33:18 First of all, what what did you see and and how do we get there? >> Well, the the first thing I noticed is the lack of infrastructure, like roads, railroads, physical connections connecting the different communities physically to each other. I noticed that that didn't exist in the future. And that yet that infrastructure was was there, I just couldn't see it. And the way that it functioned is if you were one of these communities of light, you would have these special doors. And these doors would allow you to go to any other community of light on Earth. And that the same way that the neural network works in our brain,
34:05 that these doors uh are neurologically connected to each other. So that with our intention and the right community energy, they they function and form as gateways. And uh it eliminates the need for, you know, fossil fuel, essentially, for transportation. It eliminates the need for railroads, airplanes, all of that. We end up realizing that all along we've been able to move our consciousness with our intention and with our thought. And that that was the most powerful mode of transportation. And and far more powerful than, you know, jet engine fuel. It's like we
34:51 we've always known that in in essentially the the the quantum field. But we're we're coming into knowing it better now and realizing it now. That it's our intention that allows us to move. And we can use that intention like a joystick. And we can move our consciousness anywhere in the world, anywhere in the universe, anywhere in the cosmos that we know to move it to. And that's what's really neat about these doors is they function as not just intentional movers, but physical intentional movers. And each one of these communities of light has one. And um we use them a little bit in the beginning.
35:37 And then we will use them occasionally for like special events so that we can go visit other communities. But most of the time we seal we feel so uplifted and fulfilled in our local community that we're good there. We don't We don't feel like we need to go anywhere else for our fulfillment. And that's a that's a big part of that new space is we start allowing ourselves to feel fulfilled without huge big accomplishments, without you know, big earnings or big ownings. We we truly believe that the Mother Earth is is not owned by anyone, but also owned by all of us.
36:23 And that we all own our stewardship with her, our companionship with her, and we start working with her instead of working against her or trying to take her resources, we become um very supportive to her in her path. And that's a big part of a community where um we're shifting, you know, if you look at humanity now, humanity is in a phase of consumption. We consume everything. We consume food, we consume energy, we consume um electricity, we consume content, entertainment. We are constantly consuming. And if you were to look at what we look like energetically, we look like big mouths. That's it.
37:09 We're constantly just trying to consume. But in that future space, we we don't consume anymore. We absolve that need to consume so much. And we realize that all along, the whole reason we are consuming so much is because we felt emptiness inside. And we learn in those communities of light that when we can place our true value, our true existence inside of us, that we don't need to go and eat a bunch of food or consume a bunch of oil or consume um anything. We can feel actual fulfillment off of existence, off of uh community living, off of
37:55 serving each other. And in fact, some of us will will feel so energized off of helping each other that that becomes the new the new phase. And it's a phase of of creation where we embrace our creator inside of us. And instead of being this this big mouth constantly consuming everything, we become this cornucopia of creation. Everywhere we go, we create. We create with our thoughts. We create with our hands. We create with our minds. Uh it it completely shifts us out of that wormhole of just consuming everything and going into producing
38:40 things. And we do it just like Mother Earth. Mother Earth, she she has both production and consumption, but she does it in balance. And uh we learn from that and we become that. That is our our path forward, essentially. >> Mhm. You were also mentioning how we would for you foresaw this dismantling of governments borders and politics. What was the alternative that emerged for humanity in order to be able to let go of these systems that have um been around for so long? >> Well, the systems, they were built with
39:27 very human infrastructures and supports. And in those in those infrastructures, they eventually start to collapse like dominoes. It starts with one and then another and then another and then another and then another. And before we know it, the entire financial system has collapsed. The entire government system worldwide has collapsed. There's some remnant governments left, but the people who associate to those governments, they are very much in survival mode. They're still in the old way. They're consuming everything, even to a point where um I don't even like to describe what I see them consuming. It's not good things and
40:13 um those people are are very much in survival mode and Mother Earth she tends to help people like that exit. And so cities that are left, remnant cities, they get wiped off the map completely. Like they just don't exist anymore. And um yet these communities of light exist and and not only exist, they persist. And I watched as I would see these communities of light um not just maintain themselves but grow in their vibration of love and vibration of light so that it felt like heaven itself was now existing in that
40:59 community. And and so there was not a a a very big difference between life on Earth in that community and life in what we would perceive as heaven. That they were very unified to each other in the way they existed. But yeah, [snorts] there there there is still for a period, for it feels like 10, 15, 20 years there's these survival cities. They're very like Mad Max style um uh dystopian survival spaces. And uh there's just lots of bad stuff going on there. I know that death would be easy compared to surviving in one of those cities. And um the the ideal I feel for all of us would
41:47 to shoot for the goal of being in one of those communities of light. And and do what we need to do in realizing we don't need to consume so much. And start asking ourselves why do we feel we need to consume? You know, I uh this this last year I did a 36-day fast and in that 36-day fast >> Yeah. I realized that food is a choice. Yeah, food is a choice. We don't have to eat food. We don't. And I know that some some people want to debate me or fight me on that. We don't. I went 36 days without food. And I did drink water and and sometimes juices.
42:34 But in 36 days my body cleansed itself and healed itself of a major major problem that had me in the hospital paralyzed. And our bodies are so powerful. And it took me to, you know, remembering what I experienced in my experience that guided me into doing the fast. That I didn't need to eat. I didn't need to consume. I didn't need to be a part of the the problematic system. And that I could be a source. I could be a creator myself. And start creating more than I consume. And that simple principle of creating
43:19 more than we consume once we get that 51% creation compared to the 49% consumption it's this principle inside of us where all of a sudden we feel more fulfilled. We feel more happy. We feel more successful than any other time in our life. And it's not because of what's in our bank account. It's not because of of like what's uh what meal we ate or where we ate, you know? It's because of what we're watching come through us as conduits of creation. Cuz that's what we are. We're we're pieces of source. We're made to to create.
44:04 Not to consume. Consumption is the old chapter of our life. Yeah. >> I know that you also mentioned that top top of What is it? Geographically, the the Earth had shifted quite a bit. And I know this is not about a any type of fear messaging or, you know, doomsday approach to this, but how can you speak about the Earth changes while also anchoring us into um you know, this is the present moment. This is what we're living through. The Earth you even mentioned pole shifts in some sort of scenarios.
44:50 >> I know. >> Um what did you witness around the geographical shifts? Uh I know that in the US and specifically you saw big changes as well. >> Yeah, I I, you know, being from the US and growing up here, um I a lot of my energy stayed on the US as far as understanding and seeing all of this. I know that Europe changes too, you know, China, India, Russia, all of that area changes, but but I I witnessed what changes in the United States. And the the biggest change I saw is the United States itself is two continents and not one. It separates right down the middle at the Mississippi what I would perceive as the Mississippi.
45:35 And there becomes an inland ocean that goes all the way up to the Great Lakes. And now there becomes an Eastern United States and a Western United States. And then if I look to where some of these other spaces that I've lived and visited and and gone in my life, they don't exist anymore. The entire city gone. Even that part of the land gone. And it's it's not to bring up any fear in anyone because what's really neat about our soul contract, about being here on Earth, we're just as happy to ex- to take our exit point as we are to listen to an inner voice
46:24 help us navigate to a safer space. We're just as excited. Our souls are excited both paths. Whether we are exiting in one of these transitions because what what the soul's path is to do is if we are one of the early exiters or the exodus leaving in in waves then those souls are coming and helping a lot of the community builders. And working side by side with the community builders. So it's there's not a there's not a bad path for us. And it does look scary to our human flesh. It looks really scary. The all this stuff looks scary, but it's not scary because we know what it leads to. We know this high vibrational space where as humans exit the consumption
47:12 phase of existence. And they finally get into the produ- or production or creation phase of existence. And being a component of that being a part of the engine that helps create that is a big deal for all of us. And you know, we're so distracted by our own consumption of everything. We we think that's what we're made to do. And it we're not. We're not made to do that. We're not built to do that. We can do that but we're not built to do that. And you know, part of understanding this future is associating with a voice inside of us. We all have one. We all have an in an
47:58 inner knowing, an inner voice. And the better we learn to listen to that, we will be able to navigate this and be in the right place, the right space to uh not just survive, but to thrive. And thriving becomes far more important than surviving. Cuz it you know, on Earth it gets to a point where just surviving's not good enough. Like we need to thrive. And that's part of our future in these communities is to is to thrive in these spaces of light. >> Another thing that excited me of what you saw was uh the crystal tablet technology.
48:43 Uh what can you tell us more about that? >> Well, you know, in those communities, we remember how to speak to elements. You know, if you go to a lot of the ancient sites on Earth, you will see stone masonry that doesn't make sense. It you'll see these large huge stones that it doesn't feel like it's humanly possible that they could be placed and and you know, chipped away and masoned into each other and jointed the way they are. And the reason why is because we forgot in our ancient past our ancient ancestors used to know how to to speak to the stone. And they would ask the stone to become
49:29 the shape that it would become. And that's why you have these these monolithic structures that um look like they were asked to exist and not masoned to exist or cut. And um that that frequency, cuz it is just a frequency. It's a vibration. Um Nikola Tesla help helped us remember that. He I feel I feel personally that he cracked some of those vibrations, those frequencies. And that's why um he was held under under key under lock and key. But um we remember how to speak to the elements. And part of that speaking to
50:15 the elements in the building of these communities, we don't just show up with bulldozers. We actually come to the land. We work with the land. We ask the land, is this a good space that works for the land? And when we get yes, we start building there. And we we build around this principle of communion. And in doing that, the land itself reacts to us. And as we create, the land also creates. And so in these special spaces, crystals form. And some of these crystals are so connected to the quantum field that we can hold a tablet in our hands.
51:01 And this tablet can connect to any time, any space, any dimension, any world. And it and it runs off of our vibration. It runs off of our intention. So as we're sitting there holding this tablet, >> [snorts] >> it's it's kind of like what people call the corona visor or these these these special tools that allow you to see any time, any space. And as we hold them, we can witness history, ancient history. We can witness prehistoric history if we want to. And we can even take the tablet and we can oscillate or change our vibration and become part of the tablet for a few minutes
51:47 while we while we experience that other time, that other space as if we are there, and we are there. In the weirdest way, these tablets work like a a quantum network. And because they're part of the the quantum field, it allows us to plug into that field and be anywhere in the universe. And so when when we have loved ones that we want to be there for like a graduation or for some special service that we want to see, we will gather around these tablets, we'll all hold the tablet, and we oscillate with the tablet, and all of a sudden we're all there. We're there at that special space witnessing that special event.
52:33 And it's it is hard for It's hard for our human to understand this. And when I first saw it, I was like, that's a magic tablet. And uh you know, over time spirits showed me it's not magic, it's just it's the quantum field. These tablets are fully plugged into the quantum field. And um they are omnipresent the same way that source is omnipresent, and we our consciousness is omnipresent. It's the same field. They just assist us in helping us move our consciousness even quicker and faster. Yeah. Instead of, you know, meditating for months, we're able to utilize these tools, but these tools come from the earth.
53:18 And you know, there's ancient mechanisms inside of our earth right now that were put there millions of years ago, and those mechanisms open back up as we create the communities of light. Cuz the communities of light are like a special code for Mother Earth to help her open up these ancient tools. And we're not you know, we're not vibrationally ready for those tools yet, so we don't get to have them. Not yet. But as we embrace this these communities, as we embrace and become part of these quantum communities, uh we watch these these tremendous tools open back up and become access not just physically, but consciously. Like they
54:04 they become operational because we remember how to use them. Not because we learn, we remember in in the conscious field how to use some of these ancient tools. >> One thing I'm really curious about and and even studying glimpses of the ancient civilizations um that are lost in many ways is this other worldly assistance that they would allude to, um specifically during the construction of the pyramids in the times of Lemuria, Atlantis. Is that something that comes back around as time is in in a spiral? Will we begin to have otherworldly presences, beings
54:52 living amongst us in the future that you witnessed? >> Well, here's the weird thing. We have that now, we just don't perceive it. We're We're not perceiving it, but it is it's happening right now. Um a lot of us look around and they're like, "Where's the aliens? Where's the aliens?" Well, go find a mirror. Go look in the mirror. There's the alien. You're the alien. Like all of us are aliens in a way. And it's because Mother Gaia was existing far longer before consciousness existed here. And and so we, as consciousness, are part of the alien force. And you know, our ancestors, our offspring are some of the visitors that are coming
55:38 and checking in on things. But what we don't realize, too, is because Earth School is such a a precious space. There's DNA that have been that has been brought here from all over the universe. And it's been placed in the test tube of Mother Earth to see what will happen with that DNA. To see what will happen with the possible duality that we find on Earth. Because in their own home realms, there's not the duality that we have here. So, they they very much want to observe what's going to happen with that duality, with that DNA in this duality here. So, the there's a lot of the universe that's observing
56:24 Earth right now. And they've been observing it for for the longest time. But what's happened is governments and political organizations have prevented us from even knowing our ancestors, even knowing our guardians, our guides, our protectors. They have always been there. I mean, there's there's countless videos that you can find all over the internet >> [snorts] >> of meteors coming in and about to strike Earth. And then a orb appears and the meteor lifts up and it doesn't strike Earth the way that it was going to, at the same trajectory. Like those protectors have been in place
57:10 since before time before we could start counting time. So, it's those those visitors are here. And what we what we finally wake up to is we don't need to jump into a rocket ship to go talk to them. We can go into meditation. And you can talk to angels. And we could even call angels aliens if we want to. They're not, but they're you know, our ancestors would call something an angel, and if that if that being was here today, um TV cameras would show up and start calling them aliens, but they're they're not aliens. They're they're just part of us. That we're part of that quantum consciousness. That quantum field that
57:58 we can all plug into right now and talk to right now. But we have to stop consuming to realize that we can do that. >> Mhm. Do you still talk to your spirit guide, uh Drake? >> I do. Yeah, I talk to So, I work with Archangel Michael every single day. I work with Drake almost every day. Um I work with teams of spirits in what I do, uh helping people and helping my own family. Um it's it's a weird thing for my old self to think that I would do,
58:43 but I do. I I work with uh spirit angels, ancestors guardians guides every single day, and they're there whether we perceive them or not. So, we might as well try to perceive them and start working with them, because they want us to have the best possible way forward. Cuz as we save ourselves, we also save them. We We are uh bringing salvation to all as we help each other. And they want that. They want us They want us serving each other and creating for each other. And you know, one principle that this
59:29 universe if you can understand this one principle, it will change your life. That if you wake up and feel that you're missing something in your life, go give something to someone else. Go find out what someone else is missing and give that to them. And watch. Watch what happens inside of you. The emptiness is gone. What you're feeling is missing is now fulfilled. And that's the beauty of the quantum field. That we can't actually fulfill ourselves by ourselves. We have to connect to each other. And fulfill each other. And that's where we find self-fulfillment is by fulfilling others.
1:00:16 It's It's It's very much the Christ principle. What we do unto others, we end up doing to ourselves in a positive way, but also a negative way. >> Vinnie, it's been 23 years since you had your near-death experience. It's been in since 2017 where you started sharing it more publicly. You've been on over 300 of these interview shows. Um I'm really curious if if there's been a a detail from your experience that you've intentionally left out through the years because you felt that people weren't
1:01:01 ready for it before, but now we are. >> Yes, the the biggest detail is that we walk with angels now. And that the angels that the world has been looking for is us, each other. And it's time for us to wake up and be the angel that your neighbor needs. And as we as we embrace this new mode, this new chapter of life for us, we will watch miraculous things happen. And as as we allow the the consciousness of the Christ or
1:01:47 or the legacy of the Buddha or or the teachings of the ancients awaken inside of us, we will end up watching these these great leaders come back to this space, to this earth space. And um we'll realize that when they're finally here, we don't need them. Because we've become them. As as a collective and as an individual. >> You talk about also how on the other side you're you understood that we have a magic wand here on this earth. And that is the power of our thoughts
1:02:33 and our intentions. And so what is one thing that you do to cultivate or sharpen the quality of your thoughts so that when we move over to another existence after this lifetime, we can truly harness the power of our thoughts and also learn how to do it while we're still here. >> Well, you know, spirit is always working with me on that. And it's so very easy for us to get distracted by the show. It's so easy for us to get distracted by what's in front of us. But we are not we are not the thoughts that are in our head. We are either the holder of those
1:03:19 thoughts or the releaser of those thoughts. So, on the very simple basis, if you don't like what's going on up there, release it. Let it go. And invite positive in. Seek out positive content if you are consuming content. Um if you're creating content like Amelia, you're freaking amazing, man. Create that positive content. And you know, we are all Amelios. We are all creators. We need to be. We're built to be. And we find our greatest fulfillment in creating. And as we we learn to hold the power of creation, which is our thoughts. If we think positive things long enough,
1:04:04 positive things start happening. If we think negative things constantly, negative things constantly happen. It's so simple. Choose to hold the thoughts that you want. And if you don't like the thoughts that are showing up, choose to think other things. Go seek out other things. If you are severely depressed, go serve other people. And watch how you feel afterwards. It's it's such a beautiful thing that with our thoughts we create. Our thoughts do create. And and understand that the self-deprecating thought is the most destructive thing on the universe.
1:04:50 Because people that hold those self-deprecating deprecating thoughts, they go out and do bad things to each other. And we don't need to hold those thoughts anymore. To me, that's that's part of the old chapter of hating yourself while you while you try to convince the world to love yourself. We can't do that. We have to We have to start loving ourselves. We need to start loving our light and our shadow. And what we find is our shadow gets less and less as we love it. As we we lean into our inner light, we realize that there is no shadow anymore. That we are the light. We get to be the light
1:05:36 as we serve and care about each other. >> Mhm. And Vinnie, I know I know that it wasn't easy for you coming back into your body after touching a sliver of source of of all that is. Um I know that coming back, you did have a lot of these self-deprecating thoughts. Um and you even said in in a previous show that you contemplated suicide to get back to where you came from, where you were. But you knew that that would mess things up. I'm curious to know a little bit deeper what you meant by that. Um that by taking your own life, you would mess things up uh with the understanding that
1:06:23 you had of the other side. >> Well, my my spirit team showed me that whatever I felt I was running away from, I wouldn't be able to run away from. So, if I was going to kill myself because I didn't want to be here anymore, I would be I would be forced my I would force myself to go face what I didn't want to face. So, I might as well face it now. I might as well face the hard thoughts, the hard things now, and allow myself to experience those things, but don't hold the hard things. Let go of them. And just like a a breath that is short or a breath that is full of smoke, we can let that breath go.
1:07:10 And it makes space for the new breath. And that my my suicide uh ideation or or uh pursuants was something that I needed to let go of so that I could embrace what was next for myself. And you know, I I did want to go back. I wanted at whatever cost, I wanted to go back. Um but once I learned that me doing that, I was going to still have to face what I didn't want to face, I learned just to face down my monsters now. And my my monster was loneliness. I felt so plugged in over there. And and I learned a lot from that loneliness. I learned
1:07:57 that we need each other. I learned that I needed family. And you know, since my experience, I I have two absolutely freaking amazing kids, 16 years old and 5 years old. And I have a a an amazing wife, a a twin flame, a soul partner that um you know, I don't deserve her for sure. And it's like uh I have all of that because I Because I stuck around. I stuck around. And so I have all of that, but but even those things are not all the reason why I stick around. I stick around for every breath,
1:08:42 for every thought, both good and bad, both sad and happy, because I know for a fact I wanted this existence so bad. I waited in line for it. And I'm not going to waste my opportunity here. I'm I'm going to use the joystick of my thoughts and and choose to create good things. I'm not perfect at all. I still am very human. I I get upset here and there and about the the dumbest little things. But then I remember who I really am. I take a deep breath and I I step into the future with a new energy and a new thought. >> Mhm.
1:09:29 Speaking to this loneliness, when when you were on the other side, obviously you were accompanied by your spirit guide Drake. I'm curious to know if you met other beings along the journey uh apart from from just Drake. >> So, Drake was the primary one I met. Um I could feel consciousness, what I would what I would call God. I could feel that in the grass, in that heavenly realm. I could feel it in the trees, the flower, even the the flowers, even the water there. I could feel this supreme loving consciousness. But it's the same thing I can feel when I plug into souls here, though.
1:10:15 I can feel God smiling at me when I go serve someone here. It's really a neat thing if we open ourselves up to it. But you know, I it was primarily Drake um until I was being brought back to my body and I was seeing all of these beings to my side, both left and right and behind me, like helping me back into my space and my time. And then I did see a a a whole lot of angels, not ones that I knew at the time. I've later learned some of their identities or or frequencies. And um the angels are are essentially the only other thing I saw while I was there as far as what you could call consciousness that's idealized as a a being.
1:11:02 Um the rest of it, it was just this this beautiful fabric of love. Everywhere was this fabric of love. And I'm I'm very excited about the future of Mother Gaia that she becomes that fabric of love that we get to plug into in our existence here. And we don't need to cross vast distances for heaven. We get to invite heaven to exist first here in this temple and then in this temple and then this temple, the the existence. Yeah. >> I'm curious to know um you know, while you were on your journey
1:11:47 with Drake you had a lot of questions and and he was helping answer the questions along the journey. Was there ever a question that never occurred to you to ask Drake, but then you had once you gained back your human consciousness, you remembered your identity, you remembered that you were Vinnie back in this body that you wish you would have asked him while you were there? >> Yeah, um I wish I would have asked him why I was being sent back. That took me a bit. That took me a while to figure it out. And you know, it took me years to figure it out. Uh but as I figured it out
1:12:34 I realized why I wasn't told. Why? Yeah, so it's like, you know, um it's one of these things where we get that 20/20 vision when we look backwards. And would it have been a gift or a punishment to know why I was coming back. Mhm. And I think it would have definitely been both. But that's why I wasn't The punishment would have been pretty harsh for me. I I thought right away that I would be back in heaven very soon. But at the same time, I also saw this far distant future and somehow I was existing there. But in your human, I'm thinking, "Wow,
1:13:20 Earth's going to change real fast in like 5 years." But it doesn't. It changes slower. But then when changes do happen, that those changes do happen fast. >> Yeah. So why did you come back? >> Well, I I had to have a I had to have a knowing at some level of my consciousness that approved of coming back. And you know, from my perceived consciousness, I couldn't I couldn't reach to that part of my consciousness yet. It wasn't until many years later after I I had learned to meditate and learned to really bring oneness into
1:14:08 myself. And and allow that oneness to exist and to be held inside of me, then I started plugging into a part of me that I realized did choose to come back. I I found that part of my consciousness and I asked, "Why was that choice?" And then I see my kids. I see my wife. I see all the people I've shared my story with over the years. I see countless people who have connected to my story and chosen to not kill themselves. And I see those as the the little reasons why I did. And there's bigger reasons. And those
1:14:53 bigger reasons I'm still figuring out as I go. But I am glad I came back. I am. It was very hard. As it's the it's truly the hardest thing and anyone else who has been to that side and they've come back, they'll tell you the same thing. It's the hardest thing that you'll ever do if you ever have to do it. It's not something you want to wish on yourself. Don't ever wish that you have a near death experience. You don't want one. You don't want one because if you if you understand the price that you're going to pay to have one, you realize that it's it's the hardest thing you will ever have to do in your life. There's no harder thing. No harder thing.
1:15:39 Because you have to you essentially get to have this human suit released and get the freedom to know who you really are and then step step back into the prison of the human. That's the hardest freaking thing to do, man. But what saves a lot of us who have had these near death experiences is meditation. Is allowing that consciousness to have the freedom to get back out of the human. And that's what meditation is for some of us. Is it's the ability to go back and play, go back and experience. And and some of my meditations actually
1:16:24 go back and I I spend time in heaven. I I do all the time, actually. It's one of my my sacred spaces that I go. And you know, you could call it the quantum field, you could call it the akashic or or akasha. You can call it what you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the place I already visited once. And I visit it all the time in my consciousness as medicine. I do it as medicine to help me remember why I'm here, why I endure, and why I I keep showing up for those who need me to show up. >> Do you go back to the waters of heaven a lot? >> All the time, man.
1:17:10 Those waters, oh my uh There's It's so It's so hard for us to understand. You know, there's nothing here on Earth like them. Nothing. And you know, when I was in that space, water approached to me. And it it touched my toe first. And it asked, "Do you want us on you?" And I said, "Yes." I was so excited about everything in heaven. I said, "Yes." And I watched that water come up over me. And it as it encapsulated me, as it completed and covered me, I felt it take every little crack,
1:17:57 every little tear, every little bit of damage that this world had put on my soul. And I'd had a pretty trum- like very traumatic childhood. It It went and filled every single one of those gaps. And it helped me feel completed. It helped me remember who I really was. And as soon as it was done, it was done. It It went back down off of me and went back down into this little creek, this little little stream. And you know, I I realized that we are that water. We are that living water. And that's why we're supposed to work together. That's why we're That's why when we serve each other, we get the benefit.
1:18:43 That's why when we give to others, we're the ones who walk away feeling fulfilled. It's because we are that living water. And it's time for us to wake up. You know in in many sacred books it says, "Watch the water." And that's what they're talking about. We are the water. We're the containers of the water. We're the holders of the water. We are the consumers of the water. Watch what we do with our water. Like it's it's very important that we learn I mean, obviously clean drinking water is awesome and and and vitally important, but but watch what we do with our energy, with our waters, our living waters, because we are that
1:19:29 living water. >> There is one thing that was still lingering about the future for me, and that was when when you described splitting into these societies of consumerism and then creators, into these societies of light and then the societies that are really stuck in their ways of consumption. Are those societies living simultaneously on different vibrational scales? Is that why they don't seem to interact with each other? Or what is the reason there? >> Well, it's like the survival cities
1:20:15 are at such a low vibration that someone from a survival city can't even find the cities of light. Like they must find that city of light inwardly first before they can find it outwardly. And and I saw it as if someone ever witnessed the Celestine Prophecy where >> Yeah. >> uh people of a low vibration are trying to seek the community of high vibration. They can't even see it. They could be in the middle of it and not see it because it's it's literally existing at a vibration that's so far away from where their consciousness is. They can't even see it. And that's happening now. It's happening now. Go out in any major
1:21:01 city. You can walk up and find someone who feels like they're living in hell. You can find someone who feels like they're living in heaven. And it doesn't have to do with they're consuming. It has to do with what's going on up here. >> Mhm. Yeah, that that got me contemplating. Like what if there are already cities of light existing? And as our consciousness raising it is raising, we will begin to uncover um whole civilizations >> Yes. >> coexisting, commingling with us right now. >> Shambhala.
1:21:47 >> That's one of them. >> [laughter] >> You been there? >> We will We will witness We will witness masses of beings seeing and experiencing the same thing as each other in a very high vibrational space. And then eventually all of them visiting there and staying there. And that's that's part of us getting prepared for these communities is we will see some of them. We'll see some of the large ones um exist before they exist. Cuz there's no such thing as time. It's all vibration. >> Have you been there? >> Uh in in mind space, yes. In in
1:22:34 consciousness space, yes. And and to call call it a city of gold is to downgrade it. It's a city of golden light. It is. And it's a space that using your intention with meditation and breath, every single one of us can go there, but we can't go there while we hate ourselves. It's impossible. We have to learn how to love ourselves, and then we can go there. Love Love is the magic force. Love is the lifting force. Fear or self-hatred is the gravity to our soul.
1:23:20 >> Benny, we're going to have to call this volume one because there's still a lot to cover, and I'd love to go go way deeper with you, brother. And I feel like this was a a really good first step into just uncovering the mysteries together, brother. And I I really really appreciate uh your time. We end every podcast with a segment called the final trio. Uh just some questions we we ask at the very end, but before we get into that, I would love to know where people can connect with you, where where they can find you. For those new to your work, also what's up upcoming in in your horizon. Um if you'd like to mention where where where people can go and find you there.
1:24:06 >> Well, I'm I'm a healer. That's what I do. Um I teach and I heal. That's I help people heal themselves. I don't uh I don't practice any kind of medicine other than I help people heal themselves. And that's what I do energetically. And I I teach people how to do that. And people can do they can find me at my nonprofit. It's called livinggodslight.org. Again, just livinggodslight.org. I I am going to set up my own URL at vinnytolman.com. So that I have all my other projects there cuz I'm I'm tapped into price 30 or 40 different
1:24:53 projects at any given time. And I want to I want a unified space where people can go and and access that if they want to. So I'll I'll be getting that set up here in the next little bit, yeah.
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