0:02 [singing] [music] All right. All right, guys. Welcome back to Overcome Babylon. Welcome to the live stream tonight. Tonight, we have a special one for you. It's going to be something that I haven't really talked about really in depth here on the channel. I think I've done one video on this specific topic of the mark of the beast. My intro video is playing again. I'm not sure why. But let me tell you, let me tell you something here. Let me tell you something here. Out of all the verses in the Bible, this one I have on screen right here, Revelation 13:18, this is a source of extreme debate,
0:48 confusion, ex extreme is Jesus, which is man-made interpretations rather than ex Jesus, which is faithful interpretations of the Bible. There is so much strife, unnecessary strife over this one verse right here. And so tonight we're going to be going through and just looking at, hey, what what is the mark of the beast? Everybody, it's kind of evolved over time. Sunday worship, barcodes, RFID chips, tattoos, COVID vaccine, AI. But when you just look at this verse, right? Clearly, you know, we're everybody wants to read it. What does it actually say? Let's get to the bottom of this. Let's get to the bottom of the truth. Because Jesus said, "You shall know the truth
1:35 and the truth shall make you free." So, joining me to break this all down, I have a special guest. He is very active uh both on YouTube, but more so on Tik Tok. His name is William Truth Beyond Theory. He's had some really cool, you know, interactions. He goes live regularly on TikTok and I've seen some the way that he's kind of broken this down and I I believe that he has such a good handle on this and I have questions for him and we're going to hash this thing out. We're going to get to the bottom of it. We're going to look at some manuscripts together. We're going to look at all kinds of cool stuff. So guys, welcome William Truth Beyond Theory. How are you doing, brother? Welcome to Overcome Babylon. >> Good, good, man. Thank you for having
2:21 me. Um yeah, so just to give a little background, um pretty much I I um you know, I mainly teach on Tik Tok. Um and then I just kind of just share and upload everything to you, uh to YouTube. Um and I I focus on biblical end time prophecy. Uh what we do is we navigate the scriptures to to see what the Bible's saying, right? Uh what is this antichrist? What is the beast? What is the harlot? and all these different things, all these, you know, esqueological uh entities that the Bible or now the prophets are pointing to. We kind of just decipher these things. We examine the text very carefully. We deep dive into the Hebrew, into the Greek, and we kind of just we we just kind of see if all of the prophets are saying the same thing. Um and you know, and and yeah, I
3:07 mean, that's pretty much it. >> Yeah. [clears throat] And that that's really important, William, because here on the channel, there's three things that I always do. There's three three laws of interpretation I always follow. Law of first mention, law of definitions, law of context. And I see you applying those things naturally and a lot of Bible students already do. They already apply the three laws of how to interpret the Bible properly. And so I'm excited to get into it, man. Um, real quick, William, how did you how did you get started? I mean, you've you've been talking about Islam and end times for like 10 years from what I understand. I mean, you've been you've been kind of teaching and going at this thing for a while, digging into the scriptures, man. How did your journey kind of start? Just tell us a little bit about that. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I was always uh big on end time prophecy. Um, even as a kid, I always would ask questions in church
3:53 and, you know, what's going to happen in the last days and every time I would hear the stories regarding, you know, tribulation and the last days and, you know, so I was always intrigued. And then um you know uh roughly around 2000 the end of 2014 I was very uh deep diving into scripture real heavy trying to figure things out. And then I made the mistake that everyone makes. I kept going to Revelation first and then trying to figure out Revelation from Revelation. And you know once once you go straight to revelation you start to look around the world and then what you do is you see all these different things happening and then you try to import you know what's the current events into revelation and then it it just never makes sense. So then we come up with all these different types of ideas and doctrines. And it wasn't until I actually fully decided like you know
4:39 what let me read let me study from the beginning and see what everything else what all the prophets are saying and and and kid you not in 2015 or 2014 uh during this time I actually thought that uh Obama at the time was the antichrist. >> A lot of people >> really big at that time. I think I think I think that idea was bigger then than the way people think that Trump is now. So >> Oh yeah. I think so too. >> Way bigger. And so I I was navigating the scriptures and then uh I seen that there was some sort of tie to Islam. Um and then I started to come across some verses regarding the king of the north where which everyone refers to as the antichrist. And um but I seen that it mentioned that that entity that person
5:26 himself has a god. So I'm like okay hold on. I'm reading verses of the Antichrist, but it it refers to him having a god, a foreign god, a god of fortresses, a god of war. So once I started seeing this and then I started to understand that all the prophets were pointing to a specific geographical region, I started to look where that region is and then I I started to notice that these are all nations of Islam. And then I started digging into the religion of Islam and then be and then had a a greater understanding that the Bible is pointing to something very specific. And once I started to research and understand and study Islam, it just made so much more sense because you start to understand what that system is and how
6:12 it comes to oppose and even replace Christianity. Um, so that's how it all started. And then 2015, I just kind of deep dived into it and gathered a bunch of notes. I made like a a small little u monograph based on it. So a little short book. Uh, but I use it more for like an a manual when I'm teaching. Um, and then, you know, a few years later, life just got in the way. So I kind of just, you know, I wasn't really much on social media teaching or anything. And it wasn't until uh earlier this year that I decided to really just get the channel up and running and just, you know, full throttle. >> Yeah, man. And I'm just I'm so happy I came across your work. Um I'm excited because >> you have an understanding of the scriptures that a lot of us have. And in
6:59 fact, are you familiar? So there's a guy by the name of uh Wii Shoubat. I got his book here, Why I Left Jihad. Have you read that by chance? >> I haven't read that one. I have read his other book. Um the uh uh I actually have it here. It's called um Give me one second. Uh God's War on Terror. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. He has one of his I think that was his first book if I'm not mistaken. >> Yeah. So I I read that one. Um and yeah, I mean he he in fact when I was uh because I used to post a lot of this stuff on Facebook. My uncle reached out to me at that time and was like, "Hey man, you should listen to this guy. He has a really unique view on the end times." He sends me this video where of Wed uh speaking at a church. It's like a three-hour video.
7:44 >> Once I saw the video, it all clicked. Like it was like, whoa. It all clicked because I already understood the scriptures. I just didn't know where to apply them. >> And I was already leaning towards that route cuz but I didn't know anything about Islam at the time. And then um it all just clicked. Everything just started to click. And then I went back into the scriptures and studied these things for myself. went even deeper and it was like I see it like once you see it you can't unsee it. >> Absolutely that I I feel the same way man. It once you see and everybody you know that's joining us I know there's going to be differing views in the chat. God bless you guys for joining us live here. I know there's going to be differing opinions. Just have an open mind, maintain an open mind and test these things for yourself. And trust me, you're going to be you're going to be
8:30 blown away like we both have been. And in fact, so the reason I mentioned Wed William is because I'm going to have Wed uh literally a week from today here on the channel and uh I I I was on I was on the phone with him and he still he he still is in line with this particular interpretation of the mark of the beast that we're going to be talking about. >> Uh so I'm excited to like you know have this conversation and have Wed a week from today. So guys, uh, not you know, obviously, uh, so Sunday, January 4th at 6 PM going to have Wed Shoubot on and he's majoring. Yeah, I'mma definitely be there for that one, man. >> Right on, brother. >> Definitely be there for that one. >> Yeah. And >> people people don't really know much about Wii. There's a lot of people that don't really know about him. And >> I mean, he's one of like he's top tier,
9:15 man. he's top three, >> you know, and and he, you know, him Joel Richardson's another one >> that speaks on these things kind of consistent with, you know, the medi, you know, regarding an Islamic uh entity regarding the beast and things. So, >> um, yeah, I mean, it's it's awesome that you're going to have him there. I don't even I mean, I don't even know how you ended up working that out. So, that's >> big ups to you for that one, man. >> Yeah, I know, man. I'm excited. And, uh, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about this, but let's just put it this way. Wid was first, not Joel Richardson. W lead was the original putting out a lot of this information and then you know some guys kind of piggybacked off of that >> but yeah anyways man so do you want to get into so I I put it on screen when when I started out >> uh you know this we have Sunday worship barcodes what is the mark what is 666 is
10:01 it a chip is it the tattoo covid vaccine AI [laughter] >> there's all these ideas but I don't know if you have any comments on that >> yeah so I mean we have all types of ideas and and and what's crazy is that most of these things. Most of these different ideas and these doctrines, they they're built off of uh Revelation 13 uh verses through 15 through verses 15- 18. And it's mainly based off of two words, buy or three words, buy or sell. >> So people see buy or sell, and automatically they go to, oh well, this must be some sort of financial or digital system, a bio, you know, a biometric system. um you know uh uh uh so they see these things the technological system they see this and
10:47 then they import all these different ideas based off just those words and what's sign what's very uh ironic is that I always ask my audience when every time I go live I always ask the audience did you guys know that the book of revelation mentions the mark of the beast seven times in six different chapters in the book of revelation and uh generally the answer is no No, no, no, no. Cuz they don't even know that it's mentioned this many times. And each time that it's mentioned, um, it's always associated with the worship of the beast and the worship of the image. So, the mark of the beast, uh, portion of the scripture is never independent. It's always associated with the worship of the beast and the worship of the image. The buy or sell uh, portion of
11:34 the scriptures is only mentioned in Revelation 13. So, people see this, so they automatically say, "Oh, it's a barcode. Uh it's it's an RFID chip. You know, it's it's digital ID. And you know, it started off as that, right? Started off we have the worldwide web. It's the barcode. It's been a microchip. It's been the RFID chip. It was cell phones at one point. Now we have digital ID, Neurolink. Um in fact, the COVID vaccine. I mean, there's literally people teaching it's the COVID vaccine. >> Oh, yeah. >> Uh some say Sunday worship, you know, the the change of the Sabbath. So there's all these different ideas. But this is the thing and most people don't ask these you know these brain challenging questions is if the mark of the beast is a microchip. If let's say
12:20 for example it's neurolink or any of these things then you must ask yourself within who is the beast because if it's the mark of the beast then you must first identify who the beast is. So if one says oh it's covid vaccine because they just think mark co vaccine etc. Well then who is the beast of this vaccine and what is his worship and what is his image? There's too many questions. And then what is the harlot that sits upon him? What are his seven heads? What are his t horns? So there's so many questions that needs to all be connected and related in regards to covid vaccine if that is the mark. So, you know, and this goes on with every other thing, whether if it's an RFID, whether if it's Neuralink, all of these
13:05 things. So, if one says it's the Neurolink, then all then that would make Elon Musk the beast, right? Which I think is a ridiculous idea. Um, so I don't think the prophets were literally, you know, visualizing Elon Musk as a beast, um, you know, thousands of years into the future. So uh you know so this this the thing is that the first thing we must do is identify who the beast is. Once you have that understanding of who or what this beast is then everything becomes more clear. >> Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that man. And I've seen people attack you viciously saying you're going to lose your rewards in heaven. You're going to lose your salvation. And and Jesus is mad at you,
13:50 bro, because you're not teaching that the mark of the beast is neural link in a brain in a brain chip. I'm like, "Oh my goodness, man." >> Yeah, I did. I definitely had one guy say that I would I would lose my rewards in heaven. Uh because I was telling people that the mark of the beast is not Neuralink. Uh not that I was teaching that something, but just the fact that I was telling people was not neural link because he was so sure that it was. >> Right. >> So, I was just like, "Wow, that's crazy. >> It is crazy. that that one blew me away, but it really goes to show that people um just need to you got to be careful, guys. I want to encourage you whether you're watching here live or getting the replay. Um you know, Christ said, "Be careful how you judge in these types of matters because the judgment that you dish out, that's what you're going to be judged by. Artificial measure of your own design." You don't want to do that.
14:37 Let God be the judge on certain things. This is not a salvation issue. Let's be really clear on that from the start. >> Yeah. what [clears throat] we're trying to do is have wisdom. It says, "Let him who has wisdom understand these things." So, I I believe that is the correct context for this type of conversation. It's just, you know, it's a grown-up uh uh conversation to just trying to have a wise discussion about this. And so, so yeah, William, uh the floor is yours, brother. Where do you want to go with with it? You want to look at Revelation 13, I'm assuming. >> Gotcha. So, yes. Um so, what I want to do is I want to lay the framework. I want to lay down the groundwork regarding this beast. Now, what we're going to do is we're going to navigate through some scriptures cuz I can just say, "Well, I believe the mark of the beast is this." Bam. You know, few minutes later, end of live and that's that. But let's go ahead and deep dive
15:23 into who or what this beast is. Let's identify the beast and then understand what his mark is. Um, now what we'll do is we'll navigate through some scriptures. Um, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to extract key verses that will not disqualify the context of the chapters. So that way we don't have to go too deep into the chapters and decipher every verse. Hence why I'm always on live eight hours cuz I'm going that deep. But what we'll do is we'll extract the uh uh key verses that will not hurt the context where it will be very plain just within those verses uh what the context is. And what I want to do is first I want to go to Revelation chapter 19 and we'll start at verse I believe it's
16:09 verse 11. >> Yes, verse 11. >> Yeah, I can pull that up also on screen here. >> Okay. And I'll just go ahead and do and and and just kind of just flow the way I normally flow. >> Go ahead. >> All right. So here we have in in Revelation 19 uh verse 11 guys. So here the Bible tells us now I saw heaven open and behold a white horse and he who sat on him was called faithful and true and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire and on his head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except himself. And he was clothed with a robe dipped in blood and his name was called the word of God. And the armies of
16:55 heaven clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed him on white horses. Now the Now out of his mouth is a sharp sword which that which he will strike the nations and he himself will rule them with a rod of iron. Now there's no mistake that we all understand that this is regarding the Messiah. Now, when we skip a few verses down, we'll we'll notice that right here it says, "And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to make war against him who sat on the horse and against his army." Now what's significant about that is that here we have this imagery where the Messiah is physically present visibly shown and the beast the armies and the kings will see him in his glory yet they
17:42 will they will still reject him and wage war against him you know so they see him on the white horse they see him with the armies they see him with the you know with with the brightness of his strength the thunderness of his voice yet they reject him they don't they don't accept what he is who he is and yet they will still wage war against him. So here uh I've always asked this climatic question to the audience. I always ask when the Messiah returns um who will he destroy and generally I always get the same answer which is the antichrist >> right? Some people would say well he'll destroy if they think it's an individual they'll name the individual they say oh he'll destroy the world but generally it's always the antichrist. So, can we figure out who that is according to the
18:29 Bible? And then here we see that when the Messiah returns, the beast and the armies and their kings will actually wage war against him. So now what I do is I try to reverse engineer the scriptures to see who is this beast and why are they waging war against him? What is going on there? Most people don't ask those questions. They just read and keep, you know, they just keep on going. So now what I want to do is I want to go to Revelation 13. And in Revelation 13, we'll start to understand who this beast is. And Revelation 13:2, guys, and here it says, "Now I saw the beast." Uh, now the beast which I saw was like a
19:15 leopard. His feet was like the feet of a bear, and his mouth was the mouth of a lion. Now anyone who understands when it comes to certain language the Bible uses allegorical references. So for example beast or head or mountain these are allegorical terms referring to a empire or a kingdom. Horns usually represents kings or powers within a kingdom region. and like seas, uh, waters, rivers, these these are references regarding uh, uh, peoples tribes tongues stars represent angels, fish represent followers. So, the Bible uses this language um, you know, to kind of just it's it's more of like a cemetic thing. It's just the the way that they spoke in
20:00 that time. So when we understand that the beast is actually a kingdom and not a person, we start to become more clear on what the Bible is saying. So here the Bible tells us that this beast which is referring to a kingdom has it has the makeup of the lion, the leopard and the bear which is the lion represents the Babylonian Empire and the bear represents the Meo Persian Empire and the the leopard represents the Grecian Empire. So here we have this future beast with the makeup of these three kingdoms. Now I always ask the question why would John referring to a future beast why would he point to past kingdoms? And the reason is I don't think that John was necessarily
20:48 you pointing to the kingdoms in a literal sense, but rather John was point using the kingdoms to point to a future geographical location where this beast rises from. >> And I I love that. I love how you explained that, brother, because I >> Yeah. >> You're one of the few people that even connected that dot for me. And I've I've spent a lot of time studying this stuff and I was like, he figured it out, man. He figured it out. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So, so I believe that, you know, when John tells us that the makeup of these beasts regarding those kingdoms, it's it's more so that he emerges from the region of the Babylonian Empire. He emerges from the region of the Assyrian Empire. He emerges from the region of the Grecian Empire. And here I have a >> No, William, sorry. Go ahead. While
21:35 while you're uh getting a map, it sounds like you you're getting that from Daniel 7. Is that correct? the the leopard being that kingdom and all that. >> Correct? Because here we have the same parallel in Daniel chapter 2, Daniel chapter 7. Uh we see that these kingdoms are also mentioned in three Babylon, Meo, Persia, Greece. Now, some some would argue that the legs or that the fourth beast represents the iron, the iron or the legs or the fourth beast represents the uh Roman Empire. Um, and they do this because they're looking at a sequential timeline, which is not incorrect. But when you carefully examine the scriptures, you'll notice that the fourth beast is not named, right? It's it's it's it he doesn't understand this fourth beast. He doesn't
22:20 know what it is. And it's it's usually it's not named. And then when you carefully examine certain scriptures like in Daniel chapter 2, I believe it's verse 40, uh where the Bible says that the um or I'm sorry, this is in uh in in uh Daniel chapter 7 regarding the fourth beast where it says that the fourth beast is a kingdom that destroys all the others before it. So I always ask the question um no I think this was I'm sorry this was regarding the statue and I always ask people well if the iron is the Roman Empire then one must one must you know uh explain when did the iron ever defeat the silver which is middle Persia and when we look historically we
23:06 know that the Roman Empire never fully conquered Partha never fully conquered the Persian Empire. So when the Bible says that the iron crushes all the ones before it, um historically Rome never conquered Persia. Um so so here we kind of start to we have to now question these things and carefully examine these things. Also we see that in Daniel chapter 2 that when the stone is cut from a mountain, the stone strikes the the statue at the feet and destroys the statue all together. meaning that those kingdoms are coexisting because they they're destroyed simultaneously. So I believe that Daniel is also doing the same thing that John is doing in
23:52 that they're not literally pointing to the literal kingdoms but rather are pointing to geographical regions where this kingdom emerges from. Hence why when the Bible says the statue was destroyed together, it makes sense because here on the map I uh just want to show. So this right here is the Babylonian Empire and then here is the Meo Persian Empire and then here is the Grecian Empire. And the one thing that they all have in common guys is that these the the the regions in which these empires once ruled today, they are all Islamic nations. the geographical regions that they once ruled today are all Islamic nations. Islam literally rules over all of these regions today.
24:40 So for me when I start to see this where you know and I start with John and I and I and I go I kind of you know I start with John and I understand that this beast emerges from this region. So I start to have this idea okay well this is regarding an Islamic kingdom. There's a there's an Islamic system going on here. And then I when I when I further examine the scriptures, uh, for example, if we look in Revelation chapter 13, uh, verse 8, now people would say, you know, well, hold on. How does that make sense? Because the Bible says that all the world worships the beast. And I say, are you sure about this? Because I I go by two rules. Rule number one, forget the English. Are we studying the Hebrew and the Greek, guys? Rule number two, pay
25:26 attention to context. Yeah. >> And when we see that according to the original Greek, the word earth in in the original Greek is actually the word g or gay. And that word also refers to a specific region or country. So when we understand that the original language, the original text regarding earth is could refer to a specific country or region, then excuse me, then we can understand when the Bible says and all of the earth will worship the beast, it could it could refer to all of the people within the region or within this country will worship this beast, this kingdom to give allegiance to this kingdom, this this system. And does it
26:11 support uh does this does the uh the other scriptures within the text support my claim? Yes. Because here in Revelation 13:2, John tells us that the makeup of the beast is Babylon, Meo, Persia, and Greece. When we see that that is a specific region, then we can understand the context that the word is actually being used. And >> he's telling us that those within that region, those within those countries will worship this beast, give allegiance to this system. Now, another thing I always ask the audience is, do the prophets support this claim? We have to see what the pro because there's no these prophecies are not independent of
26:58 each other. So Isaiah, does Isaiah say the same thing? Does Jeremiah, Obadiah, Amos, Zephaniah, you know, Joel, do they say the same thing? You know, Zechariah and Ezekiel. And the answer is yes. They all prophesy of the same thing. They prophesy what Daniel prophesies and what John prophesied. So here once we understand that the beast is regarding a kingdom and not necessarily a person then it starts to become a little bit more clearer what the prophets were actually saying in the scriptures. So now we as we lay down that framework that the beast is regarding a specific region because I always ask people well if the beast is America or if it's this
27:44 then why does it have a mouth of a lion and the feet of a bear and the body of a leper? And then they come up with like well you know the lion he you know he speaks blasphemies or the feet it's like he's stomping through you know through the region and and and the the the leopard he's very swift and I'm like I don't know where you guys come up with this stuff. It's [laughter] it's crazy. >> You know the imagination runs wild when you don't let the scriptures interpret the scriptures. And and I'll say I'll say this William when you said that the earth will worship. Yeah you're totally right. It's the same in the Hebrew for different context like Isaiah 24 when the earth is going to be judged. It's actually referring to a specific territory, specific land in my opinion. So I' I've found these types of patterns where the Bible, the English, right,
28:30 because we're supposed to look at the Hebrew or Greek, but the English will say earth >> and it's very clearly when you understand the bigger picture of context, it's only talking about a specific location. I love what you're saying, brother. Keep going. >> Yes. The Bible and the prophets, they're very geographical. And then I always I always make this point as well because they'll they'll they'll ignore when I refer to the Greek and I always say well hold on when when Nebuchadnezzar when he was told that his kingdom will you know will will go all over the earth um that he will rule the earth does that mean that Nebuchadnezzar ruled Canada or Mexico? Of course not. Right? We know that it's just regarding the then known world as far as his kingdom will go. He rules that. So because people see earth
29:16 and automatically assume the whole entire globe, right? But the word there refers to a specific region. It could mean earth, but it also could refer to a specific region or a specific nation. Um so once we understand that now we have to see does the Bible support this? If I am correct, if this is regarding a specific region, if this is regarding an an Islamic beast, an Islamic system, does the Bible support this? And I'm going to there's a lot more to unpack regarding the broader sense of these things because some of these things do uh uh stretch into the west, but we're going to focus on just we're going to be narrowed be narrowed down to this one specific, you know, topic. And so um now
30:03 so the next thing to do is now now that we understand the geographical region of this beast we will now go to revelation chapter 17 because now here most people uh when it comes to revelation chapter 17 you know this is where the harlot is introduced but most people don't understand that the beast is actually is interpreted also in revelation 17 because the harlot is sitting on the beast with seven heads. heads and 10 horns. So here we have this beast, seven heads, 10 horns. And then uh you know this is what John says. He says in verse 9, he says here is the wisdom which he says here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains. So as I stated
30:49 before guys, heads mountains are is an allegorical term for a kingdom because it even tells us right there in the next in the next line. These are also seven kings. So you cannot have a kingdom without a king. You cannot have a king without a kingdom. They must go together. So when one says, well I you know, oh it's a literal head. Revelation 17 says that he was struck in the head and this is you know he comes back to life. So some people think that's a literal head wound. And I say no. Well that doesn't make sense because what are his six additional heads and what type of person has seven heads and 10 horns et no one has an answer for these things. So this is just the way that they try to force their theory to work. Now when it comes to the seven heads,
31:36 the Bible says these are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is and one has not yet come. Now here we have the seven. The five which fell, the one that is, which is number six, and then the one that has not yet come. That's number seven. Now the one writing this is John. So John is the one writing this which means that John is sitting on number six because he tells us one is he says five kingdoms have fallen. Now most people think that this is these are literal mountains. So they go straight to the Vatican. These are you know this is the Vatican sitting on the seven hills of Rome etc. which the Bible doesn't never expl it it doesn't say any of these things. This is just more so people you know putting in their theory and trying to make it work. Um but when we
32:24 understand that mountains are not literal mountains then you know uh it starts to become more clear and even if we go by that theory uh Jerusalem sits on seven hills Mecca sits on seven hills right so I can say well I believe it's Mecca because Mecca sits on literal seven hills so even when we go with that you know uh uh it kind of just starts to you know abolish their their whole claim. Um so here John tells us five kingdoms have fallen, one is and one has not yet come. Now when you understand that John is sitting on number six which is the Roman Empire. Well which are the fell the five that fell? Well we have the Egyptian Empire, the Assyrian Empire, the Ro uh the the Babylonian
33:09 Empire, the Meo Persian Empire and the Grecian Empire. Those are the five that fell which by the way all persecuted Israel. Paul came against Israel. You know, these are they're prophesied throughout the scriptures, etc. And so these are the five that fall. And then he tells us, "One is right, which is the Roman Empire." And then he says, "One has not yet come. But when he comes, he must continue for a short time. The beast that was and is not is himself also the eighth and is of the seven and is going into predition." So there's even an eighth, guys. And the eighth is only mentioned here. We don't see that there's another an additional head in the other, you know, portions of scriptures regarding Revelation 13 or Revelation 19. We see
33:56 that he's mentioned here. So there's an eighth that is of the seven, which means when we look in Revelation 13 where it says, "And I saw the beast and one of its heads as as if it was mortally wounded and the deadly wound was healed." That healed wound, that revived head is this eighth final kingdom. The revival of this beast comes back as this eighth guys. And it's also the T horns because the Bible tells us in the next verse, the T horns which you saw are 10 kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. So these 10 kings when they join this allegiance
34:44 they come back also as this eighth empire. This this eighth kingdom this final eighth which is also this little horn. This this is the final empire that comes against God's people in the last days. This is the one that ushers in the coming of the Messiah. So now when we look and I actually have it here. So I'm going to pull this up here guys. when you see here are the mountains. So John tells us five have fallen. So which is Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Meo, Persia and Greece. And then he says one is which is the Roman Empire. Okay. Now who is number seven? Now the way we understand this is historically historically the Roman Empire we all
35:29 know had two divisions, right? Most people say this is the eastern leg, the western leg, the the as far as the iron. No one denies that Roman the Roman Empire had two divisions. Now what's significant is that when the Roman Empire the Western Roman Empire was the empire that included Rome, the Eastern Roman Empire did not include Rome. When the Western Roman Empire this fell around uh the fifth century and they fell you know uh due to the barbaric tribes. So the western Roman Empire which included Rome did fall guys. It did fall and the eastern leg continued in Byzantium. The Eastern Roman Empire was the Byzantine Empire which lasted roughly around a thousand years. So they
36:15 continued without the Western Roman Empire. And the Eastern Roman Empire, their capital was in Constantinople which is in modernday Turkey. Right? This was a Christian empire and that empire was conquered by Sultan Meime II. So this they were conquered the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire was conquered by the Ottomans which now we know number seven becomes the Ottoman Empire. We know this historically because anyone I mean it's a simple Google search guys. We know historically that the Roman Empire did in did indeed fall and the Eastern Roman Empire was conquered by Mimemed II. Now the Bible tells us there's even an
37:02 eighth that is of the seven. Now how do we figure out who the eighth is? Well, once again, geography matters, guys. Geography matters. Now when we understand that the beast, the seven heads, these seven mountains are regarding these kingdoms, what we now must answer is, well, how do we decipher who number eight is? So what happens is you got to see and think, well, which cuz remember revelation 13 tells us, "And I saw one of the heads, one of the empires as if it was wounded, but then it revived itself. It came back." So one of these falls and comes back, rules over the rest. Now how we decipher this is when we look at the geographical regions
37:49 of all seven empires. So here we have Egypt. This is the region that Egypt once ruled. Here is the region that Assyria once ruled. Here's Babylon, middle Persia. Here's the Grecian Empire. Now here's the Roman Empire. But remember the Western Roman Empire had already fallen. The Eastern Roman Empire that you see here is the one that continued and was taken over by the Ottoman. Okay? When you understand that geography matters and when you look at all of the the geographical regions of these kingdoms today, they're all Islamic nations. Every single previous kingdom are all Muslim today. Even even if one wants to include the western Roman Empire, you
38:34 still have to include North Africa which was included in the Roman Empire both the eastern and the both the eastern and the western which you know stretched from Moritania, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria you know Sudan all the way to Egypt all of that was part of the Roman Empire which today are all Islamic today. So here we start to understand that all of these empires, none of these empires are ruling today and nor do any of these empires rule over the geographical regions that they once ruled. The only one that still rules over the geographical region that it once conquered is the Ottoman Empire. And here I want to show this map. This
39:20 is all the green that you guys see here. This is these these are Sunni Muslim countries. There's two types of Muslims. You have Sunni and then you have Shia. And the dark green are Shia Muslims which is predominantly in Iran. So this whole entire region that used to be ruled by those previous kingdoms, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Meo, Persia today are all Islamic nations. So when we look at the seven heads, these seven empires, the way we understand who number eight is is to see which one of these still remains and we start to understand or when you start to understand that this is regarding geography, you'll notice that the Ottoman Empire fell in 1924, was abolished 1922 to
40:08 1924. We're talking about our great-grandparents, our grandparents, guys, right? I I I I still remember my great-grandmother and she was living during the time of the Roman Empire, guys. This is crazy. Or I'm sorry, the Ottoman Empire. >> Yeah. >> So, so now we understand that when the Ottoman now just just for the sake of context, the Ottoman Empire was a caliphate, guys. All right. This was a caliphate with the exception of the Persian Empire. The Persian Empire which are Sunni Muslims were not included, were not part of this Ottoman caliphate. Now, the Ottoman Empire uh with a caliphate, a caliphate is when all of Islam is under one ruler. They're under one. This is the the the califf, the khalif, you know, it's a khalifa, the caliphate. And what it is is that the
40:53 they have this one leader, and the leader is himself like he's like the pope, the president, and the general all wrapped in one. And he's the one that governs and rules over Islam. >> It's a theocracy, right, William? Is that how you describe it? >> Yeah. So that that that system was abolished in 1924. Head wound. Remember an empire is given a head wound as if it was mortally wounded. But then the world marveled because this head wound was healed. Now this is what's very significant guys. Even though the Ottoman Empire ceased to exist and was abolished in 1924, they still dominate and rule over all of
41:39 the lands that they once conquered. None of the other previous empires does this. The Roman Empire no longer rules over the land. Some people say, "Well, hold on. I think it's regarding Rome, papacy, etc. Pagan Rome, Paper Rome." Well, even in Catholicism, guys, even even the Vatican, they do not rule o over the regions that the Roman Empire once ruled. The only one that does is the Ottoman Empire. The only ones that does is the Ottoman Empire. So now we understand that geog g when it comes to geography is Islam dominates all of the regions that these kingdoms once ruled. So that for me, I start to understand who's number eight. Because now we start to understand that this is regarding the revival of an
42:26 Islamic caliphate because as of right now there is no caliphate but we may see the revival of a caliphate in the near future. Now does the Bible support this claim? And the answer is yes. Do the prophets support this? And yes. So now that we start to understand that here we see the 10 horns that the Bible mentions is regarding this eighth empire. Meaning that there will be 10 kings, 10 nations that will in the last days come together as one final empires, one final kingdom. And honestly, if this is regarding 10 Islamic nations, guys, this isn't so far-fetched because we're kind of witnessing this now today with the Abrahamic Accords and all the treaties and things that Trump is doing in the
43:11 Middle East with all of these Arab nations. Guys, >> what do you think of bricks? What do you think of bricks, William? >> Um, >> Brazil, Russia, China. >> Yeah, I believe that a lot of these other nations are involved. Um that's why I said earlier I mentioned earlier that there's there's a major broad scale to all of this because these things do stretch into the west. Russia is involved, China is involved. Um but when it come and >> you know this this beast system, yeah, this beef system, there's a lot to unpack there. Um and maybe we can do a part two and and I'll kind of like elaborate on that. >> I'll say this, brother. We do have Indonesia, which is the largest Muslim nation by population that has joined bricks. So I think that's extremely significant. But go ahead, brother. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> So, so here we have this coalition of
43:58 nations. Now, um, what I want to do now is I want to examine the scriptures and see does the prophets, do the prophets support this idea of a Middle Eastern Islamic caliphate? And once we start to understand the framework that this is regarding a a a system within that region, excuse me. Um you know this is all g uh uh geographical. Here we have this eighth beast. Now I want to mention real quickly before we go further the Bible says that there are seven heads and 10 horns. Now remember horns represent kings guys within the kingdom region. Now here Egypt, remember Egypt had a horn, Assyria, Babylon, Meo,
44:46 Persia, and then the Grecian Empire, and I'm sorry I actually made because I had to erase this. My kids were like scribbling all over it. I actually forgot. Uh the Grecian Empire actually had four horns. Cuz if everyone remembers, you have remember Daniel chapter 8 when everyone, you know, refers to Alexander the Great when he fell, his four generals rose. I believe there's a lot more there, but I'm just using this as reference. Um, in Daniel chapter 8, the goat, which represents the Grecian Empire, when his horn was broken, four horns grew in its place. So, we know that out of the Grecian Empire are four horns. And now, when you understand that, you know how this sequence works, you start to see here it goes. Here's, you know, uh, Egypt had a horn, Assyria had a horn,
45:32 Babylon had a horn, Meo Persia, the Grecian Empire, the Roman Empire, and the Ottoman Empire. And when you count them up, you get 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. So the beast with seven heads, 10 horns. So now you start to understand the sequence of these kingdoms of their horns. But then it's like, hold on, what about number eight? He's missing a horn. Right now, when you understand Daniel chapter 7, Daniel chapter 8, if they're all supporting each other and this idea regarding an Islamic system in the last days, a final Islamic caliphate, which we can say is a is a final end time kingdom. Well, then you got to remember that out of one of the four horns in Daniel chapter 8 comes a little horn,
46:18 which everyone no one disagrees that the little horn is the antichrist. Well, the little horn is also himself the eighth king. So now we understand there's his horn. Now we see the sequence and how it all fits. All the kingdoms and the empires and the geographical regions, they all have their horns, right? So now we start to see how these things are slowly coming, you know, uh coming together. Now we must examine because this is all allegorical, guys, right? So we can say this means anything, right? We can apply anything to these things. And I and I agree. But this is where we must carefully examine the scriptures to see do the prophets
47:03 support this because these these uh uh uh prophecies are not independent guys. Now, the number one question I asked before, you know, we kind of deep dive is when the Messiah returns, guys, who will he set out to destroy? And then we started in Revelation chapter 19 and we saw that the beast is waging war against him. Even when you look in Revelation 17, even the next verse down, uh verse 13, he says regarding the 10 horns, these are of one mind and they will give their power and authority to the beasts. These will make war with the lamb and the lamb will overcome them for he is lord of lord and kings of kings. Guys, so here we have another verse in another
47:50 chapter where this final entity is waging war against the lamb, against the messiah. Even in Daniel chapter uh I believe it's chapter 8, might be chapter 7. I usually normally get those two confused when it comes to the little horn. But in either one of those chapters, it tells us that the little horn will even rise against the prince of princes. He rises against the Messiah. So here we have several scriptures throughout the Bible where it's telling us this final entity, this final power, this final kingdom will wage war against the Messiah even in his glory. They reject the idea, they reject who he is. Now we know the rest of the world, I mean you would have at least an
48:36 assumption when you see God in his glory, you know people would, you know, give give a knee, right? They would give their knee and they would they would they would all, you know, confess, oh wow, this God is real. I made a mistake. He's absolutely real. But there is a specific system and a specific people and a specific kingdom that will not believe who he is. They will reject who he is in his coming and try to fight against him. So now that we see that the beast is geographical and there's a specific system in place where this region where the Bible is pointing to this region that the Bible is pointing to, we must now examine the other scriptures and the other prophets to see do they support this Islamic beast. So I want everyone to look in Isaiah chapter
49:23 19 and we're going to start at verse obviously verse one. And like I said guys, for the sake of time, we're not going to dig deep too deep into the the the the uh chapters, but I will extract key verses that will not do an injustice to the context, guys. >> Uh what version are you reading from? >> I'm using the uh New King I have a New King James version. >> Okay, that that's funny because that's what I have on screen. So >> Gotcha. Awesome. So let me just pull up Isaiah chapter 19. So, here we are in Isaiah chapter 19. And here's look, look what it says in verse one, guys. Behold, the Lord rides on a swift cloud and will come into Egypt. The idols of Egypt will tatter at
50:11 his presence, and the heart of Egypt will melt in its mist. So, real quickly, I want everyone to put a bookmark there. Just stay there. And I want to show you what Jesus says in Matthew 26. So, look what Jesus says. And we know this throughout the scriptures. Jesus spoke uh uh spoke on this many times. >> Yeah, I' I've made this connection before here in the channel. Matthew 24:36 right? >> Uh yeah, it's in Matthew 24. It's I'm right now I'm actually in Matthew 26. So in Matthew 26:64 here, Jesus says to he's speaking to the Pharisees. This is when he's basically standing like as if he was in trial. And you know Jesus says it is as you said nevertheless I say to you hereafter you
50:56 will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of power coming on the clouds of heaven. So Jesus tells us in multiple scriptures and Abraham you know mentioned it that he's also mentions this in Matthew 24 you know Mark Luke they they mentioned the same thing that Jesus in many places of the Bible says that upon his return he will come riding on the clouds. So when we look in uh Isaiah chapter 19 guys here verse one I'll reread. Behold the Lord rides on a swift cloud and will come into Egypt. The idols of Egypt will tatter at his presence and the heart of Egypt will melt in its mist. Now for the sake of con uh uh time guys we're going to skip down to the last two verses. Everyone, you guys can write this down, read, you
51:42 know, go read the chapters for yourself, but I just want to stick, you know, I want to stick to key passages because some if someone thinks that, well, I think that's regarding back in the day. Well, you would then have to explain these verses. Verse 23. In that day there will be a highway from Assyria to E uh there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria and the Assyrian will come into Egypt and the Egyptian into Assyria and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians. Uh now here we are in uh Isaiah 19:4. And in that day Israel be will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria a blessing in the midst of the land whom the Lord of hosts shall bless saying blessed is
52:29 Egypt my people and Assyria the work of my hands and Israel my inheritance. So here this is very very clear in just these uh three verses that this is prophetic regarding the future. This is a future prophetic prophecy guys because there has not been a time in which the Lord calls Egypt his blessed people in which Assyria is the work of his hands where he unites these three. Hasn't happened yet, right? >> We never never seen that. Never seen that in history. >> Yep. So when it comes to verse one where it says the Lord rides swift swift cloud into Egypt. We all know that Egypt today if this is obviously this is future. So we can you know we can connect this to
53:15 our modern time or even our near future. We see that Egypt today is a Muslim majority nation. Okay, governed by the system of Islam. And here we have a a prophecy where the Lord is riding a cloud into Egypt, the idols of Egypt. He's destroying the idols. He's judging the peoples. Okay, so this is where the Lord goes first. Jesus tells us he's coming on the clouds and we see that he rides into Egypt. Now, I want everyone here, let's go to Zechariah chapter 9, cuz let's see where he's going. Let's see what the Messiah, let's follow the Messiah's trail and see exactly what he is. And by the way, guys, um I actually did a live on this. It's called the Armies of Heaven. I I spent like three,
54:01 four hours just focusing on scriptures that show the Messiah physically present going to war with specific nations. Um, it's an awesome live, guys. But here we are in Zechariah chapter 9. Now, we're going to skip over. We're going to just go through these verses very quickly. Uh, give me one second. Bear with me, guys. So, you're on a roll, man. You're on a roll. Go for it. >> Appreciate it. >> So, here we are in Zechariah chapter 9. And here in verse one it says the burden of the word of the Lord against the land of Hajat and Damascus. Now anyone should
54:46 know that Damascus is in the in Syria. Okay. Then when we look at verse two it says also against Hamoth which borders on it and against Ty and Sidon though they are wise. Now Ty and Sidon guys is a region within Lebanon. This is north of Israel. Okay. And then it says, "For Ty," verse three, "for Tyer hath built herself up, Ty built herself up a tower, heaped up heaped up silver like the dust, and gold like the mire of the streets. Behold, the Lord will cast her out. He will destroy her power in the sea, and she will be devoured by fire." Verse 5, Ashcolon shall see it in fear. Gaza also shall be very sorrowful, and Echron, for he dried up her expectation.
55:34 The king shall perish from Gaza and Ashcolan shall not be inhabited. A mixed race shall settle in Ashdad and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines. Now people when I when I speak on this they say oh that's regarding that time in the past and because the Phil they don't exist anymore. Those peoples don't exist. And I say this is not what the the Bible uses geography to point to specific regions in the future. Geography doesn't change, guys. That's the thing is that the geography never changes. So, when God uses uh you know, when God is using the Philistines or Ashdad or or God and all these different places, it's still regarding that region. He's he's just using the names
56:19 of these past kingdoms or these past peoples so that we could understand who he's speaking of today, even in a spiritual sense, guys. So here so far we see that in Zechariah chapter 9 we see that there is a judgment on Damascus and Ty and Sidon and Gaza and all of these regions guys today are all Islamic regions. Now when we continue, we look in verse chapter n or yeah verse chapter I'm sorry chapter 9 verse9 it says rejoice greatly oh daughter of Zion shout oh daughter of Jerusalem behold your king is coming to you he is just in having salvation lowly and riding on a
57:06 donkey all know I think we all agree that this is regarding the Messiah we'll skip a few verses and we'll go to verse 11 and then it says here as For you also, because of the blood of your covenant, I will set your prisoners free from the waterless pit. Return to the stronghold, you prisoners of hope, even today. Uh, even today, I declare that I will restore double to you. For I have bent Judah my bow, and fitted the bow with Ephraim, and raised up your sons, O Zion, against your sons, old Greece, and had made you like the sword of a mighty man. Now, uh, real quickly, brother, can you, uh, pull up the intellinear regarding that word Greece? >> Yeah, let's do it. Um,
57:53 so right here, >> verse 13, >> Yavan. >> Yavon. Now, I want everyone to understand that this is Yavan, guys. Yavon is of the race of the Ionians. Okay. Now, I don't know if you can pull up a map real quickly, like just go to quick Google and type Ionia of the Bible. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I just want to I want everyone to see exactly where Yavon is. This is a specific geographical region guys. So even in the English we see that the word is the is Greece. But in the original Hebrew it's actually the word Yavan which is in Ionia. Ionia is in Asia Minor which is western Turkey.
58:38 >> So that that place Greece that the Bible's mentioning is actually western Turkey guys. That's a That's a pretty big deal, man. Um, >> that's a major deal. >> That's a pretty big deal. Is that a misransation, do you think? >> No, because it's it's the Ionian Greeks. So, they were still considered Greeks. >> Okay. Yeah, that's true. That's true. >> Yeah. Yep. So, they were still considered Greeks, but they were the Ionian Greeks, and they came out of that region of Ionia. Uh and and my and by the way, Yavon Javin guys, Javon is the grandson of Noah because remember Noah had three sons and his son Yafth Japheth his son the names of his sons were Meek, Tubal, you know, uh uh Javin, Goomer. So these these the the regions of this Gog
59:24 and Magog were actually the sons of Noah. And if anyone understands that when the ark landed, it landed on Mount Ararat when the water receded. And Mount Ararat is located in Turkey, which means they settled in Turkey. Hence why the names of some of these places within Turkey are the sons of or the grandsons of Noah. So, you know, I just wanted to make that side note. But here we have that this word G. So, so far when we look in Zechariah chapter 9, guys, so far we see that there's a judgment on Damascus, which is Syria. A judgment on Ty and Sidon, which is Lebanon, a judgment on Ashcolan and uh and Ashdar and the coast of Felistia, which is all
1:00:09 the region of Gaza. And then we see that you know God for I have bent Judah my bow fitted the bow with Ephraim and raised up your sons oh Zion against your sons oh Turkey. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Even though it says Greece it's western Turkey. Turkey. So so far we see that there's a pattern of all Islamic nations regions. These are these are the regions of Islam today because Islam today rules over every single region that was mentioned by name. This is the key verse to tie it all together, guys. Verse 14, look what it says. Then the Lord will be steaming over them, and his arrow will go forth like lightning, and the Lord God will blow the trumpet and
1:00:56 go with whirlwinds from the south. The Lord of hosts will defend them. And I'll stop there. Now, here the Lord is physically present, visibly shown. They can see him. And the Bible says that he comes with the whirlwinds from the south. Guys, remember Isaiah 19:1, "Behold, and the Lord rides a swift cloud and goes into Egypt, which is south of Jerusalem." So the Lord rides a swift cloud and goes into Egypt. The Lord rides a swift cloud from Egypt. He goes upwards. And where does he go? He goes to Damascus. He goes to Syria. He goes to Lebanon. He goes to Turkey. And what is he doing? He's defending the peoples from these nations, guys. He's
1:01:44 defending them. Now remember guys, my climatic question, when Jesus returns, who will he destroy? Generally, the answer is always the antichrist. >> So far, we don't see him fighting an individual and we don't see him fighting no other nations except for the nations that today are all Islamic. So here we start to see that if these nations, these kingdom, these nations is regarding, you know, the beast is is an encompass of nations that will come together in the last days. The Bible names those nations. We start to understand exactly who this beast is. Because remember guys, in Revelation chapter 19, the beast is waging war against the Messiah. The beast, their armies, and the kings waging war against
1:02:31 him. When you look in the Old Testament scriptures, you see that the Messiah, the Lord is physically present and he's fighting nations. So when you're trying to understand who is he fighting in Revelation chapter 19, the prophets tell you in Isaiah and Zechariah exactly who he's fighting. >> And William, just to stop you there, brother. I mean, that's why what you said at the beginning was so important. And I want everybody to really remember what William said at the very beginning of this live stream. For years, he had approached Revelation in isolation, just looking at Revelation and trying to squeeze in, hey, let's maybe take it take a look at the periodical. Let's look at the newspaper of what's going on right now that I can see and try to fit it in somewhere. But what you actually have to do is you do have to go because
1:03:18 Revelation is apocalyptic literature with prophecy inside of it. Of course, we have to look at the prophets to actually interpret the prophecies written here. And so you just demonstrated that, William. You just clearly demonstrated that. I love how you pointed out the nations in Zechariah 9. I've done some some expositions of Isaiah 19 here in the channel. It's a part of my book and Bible Prophecy Secrets, but I have not done Zechariah [clears throat] 9 the way you just laid it out. That was really good man. >> Yeah. >> So, >> and and and I appreciate that. And and that's the thing is that I often tell people if you want to understand revelation then go simply study the old testament prophets because they are prophesying I say like 60 50% 60% of of
1:04:04 the old testament is all future prophecy guys and they interpret revelation for you. The bible it actually interprets it for you. You don't have to play the guessing game. God is not the author of confusion. We don't have to try to guess what these things are because the prophets are actually telling us guys. It even uses the same language that Revelation uses. The same allegorical language is found in the Old Testament as well. So I want to uh continue. So we saw that in Isaiah 19, he's in Egypt. Zechariah 9 there's he's in Gaza, he's in Lebanon, he's in Syria, he's in Turkey. So so far we found five nations, five regions of Islam. Remember the Bible tells us that the king, the 10 horns are 10 kings. These are 10 Islamic
1:04:50 nations that will come together in the last days, form a confederacy against Israel. And not just the state of Israel, but Israel, guys. And we won't go, that's a whole another topic. >> That's a deep topic. Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. So, so, so here's that. Now, here, so far, we've named five out of 10. Now, what are the other 10? And does the Bible do the prophets support or give us evidence of the additional five? Now, let's keep going. Now, we'll see that. And if we now, I want everyone to understand, you read Zechariah 910, 11, 12, 13, they're all the same event. It's all the same stuff, guys. It's speaking. It's just giving it all in great detail. Then, when we look in Zechariah 14, the final chapter, we start at verse one.
1:05:35 And it says, "Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, and your spoil will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem. The city shall be taken, the houses rifled, and the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, but the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations as he fights in the day of battle. And in that day his feet will stand on the mount of olives guys. So I want to emphasize on this that here we have another prophecy where the Messiah is physically present. In fact that word during the interlinear is actually Yahweh. So it says that Yahweh's feet stands on the mounts of olives. And I
1:06:21 always ask this question especially when I'm uh you know disc having uh discussions with Muslims. When did
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